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January 24, 2023 • 42 mins
Welcome to the debut episode of Pillow Talk! Alii Michelle interviews parents rights activist Quisha King about what parents should do to advocate for their children in the public school system and more.

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No, this is the FCB PodcastNetwork. This is pillow Talk with Ali
Michelle on the FCB Podcast Network.Welcome to pillow Talk with Ali Michelle.

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The social media influencer who's been consumedby the censorship around me and confined by
the censorship mob. So I decidedto start a podcast so I can talk
about whatever the hell I want.So thanks for finding me and thanks for
listening. Let's start the show.She's the Deputy of Best at Freedom,
Mark's advisor at the American First PolicyInstitute, and the host of the Keisha

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King Show. Keisha King, Hi, Keisha, Hello, Hi Ali,
how are you? I'm good?How are you? I am doing well.
It's good at Taday morning. Butwe're here. We're gonna do it.
So so let's let's get to knowyou a little bit. What is
it that you do? You know, just let's get a breakdown. Sure,

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So, I am a parental rightsschool choice advocate activists. I basically
try to bring light to the educationissues that are happening in our country,
along with cultural issues and politics.You know, because all of these things
that w evolve around politics all towardsthe next generation. So it's faith,

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culture, and politics, gear towardsthe next generation. What I do with
Freedom works through Beth is helping parentsto get activated, helping them understand like
what's really going on in the schoolsystems, and ultimately to get them to
check out school choice because I alwayssay, we have a short window of

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time to get our children educated.And I understand, you know, we
want to fight for school board changesand those are definitely long term goals.
But at the same time, whilewe're doing that, I think it's good
too if you if your government schoolis not working for your kid, that's
it's wise to explore school choice becauseeducation freedom is a thing that is going

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to help your child a not beindoctrinated in these indoctrination camps and give them
the best chance to have a successfulfuture. And so I'm a mother myself,
I work closely with the Governor's office, the best governor in the nation,
governor a long descans and just workingalongside them to basically get parents fighting

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for promential rights and education freedom.So, um, if parents want to
be more active in their school,what should be their first step? As
a mom myself, I'm also dealingwith some school issues. Um, so
what what would be like their firststep. UM. So it depends on

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the issue. But if it's youknow, if it's something that you can
take to the child's your child teacher, I would start there. You know,
you don't want to borrow it up. You know, like you hear
something, you're like, I'm goingstraight to the superintendent, you know,
you know, like the measure wouldbe reasonable. UM, try to take
it up with the teacher first.If that doesn't work, then escalate it

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to the principle. If that doesn'twork, UM to the school board,
the superintendent, the districts UH thatthat the school board member is over in
your UM, in your in yourdistrict, where you live. So school
districts are they're drawn by where youlive. So each district has a school
board member that represents you. Soyou can take your complaints you know,

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down to the U to the schoolboard meetings where you're speaking to the superintendent
and the entire board. But youcan also just contact your school board director
UM through email or my phone UHdirectly And if that doesn't work, you
know, then you hit at peoplelike best and and our parents know Best

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dot com. That's where you cango to get more information and you start
you know, reaching out to differentpeople to bring to shed light on whatever
that issue is. Okay, that'sa lot, but I think with you
know, what's what's happening. Ithink like for me, for example,
I I've always been involved in myson's school. Um, but again we

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struggle a lot with like, welldoes the teachers know best? And you
know, where where do I stand? Where do I get a voice for
my child? Because it's talk toa whole it's talk wool whole channel of
people. Yeah, you know,Um, even because I with my experience

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this year, I feel like somehave overstepped me in a way. Um.
We'll get into that in a second. But um, I just think
a lot of parents need to becomemore confident and there and there's kids lives.
It's not kids' eyes, but likeschool wise, because then we are
so we are so like we're taughtto just like Okay, teachers do no

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like we should trust what they're saying. Which I'm not saying teachers are bad.
I'm not saying that at all.But you know, with today,
it's getting pretty tricky with the thingsthat are being taught. And that is
true, that is certainly true.But there is no one who knows your
child better than you and your child, your father, parents, no best

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you know, because at the endof the day, yes they are teachers,
yes they you know, they're stillstrangers. These people are strangers.
And you know, gone are thedays where it's like, oh, that's
little Sally down the street. Nowshe's a teacher. I've known our family
for years, you know, mostof us don't even we don't know our
teacher, you know, our children'steachers like that. And I think we

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have to to remember these people arestrangers, and sometimes they don't always know.
They just don't just because they themselveshave come up through this, through
the system, so to speak,going to college and being educated and you
know, getting a teaching certificate andall those types of things, they themselves
are kind of now built have builtin this idea that I am the one

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that knows. It's like, firstof all, every child is different,
and even if you know, evenif they're in those same same homes,
same parents, everything, they're stilluniquely different and they're going through any different
things. And so just because theyare the teacher and you know, that
doesn't mean that they know what isthe best way for your child to learn.

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How would you like, Yes,you space spend eight hours a day,
five days a week, you know, yeah, okay, but there
are you can as a mother,you can look at your child and know
what they're thinking that a teacher wouldnot know. And that is something that
is a god given thing that isfor mothers or you know, fathers have

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it too, but certainly for moms, just because just the way we're naturally
wired. And so I totally rejectthat idea that teachers know better than parents.
And I think teachers should be theone respecting parents and encouraging parents to
say no gives me more feedback,help me to learn better about your child.

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And you know, I just youknow, I don't. I don't
like that. I'm with you.Um, so when it came okay,
so let me just so, howdid you get so involved? What was
there something that happened? Um?Like yeah, yeah, so um.

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During twenty twenty, everybody remembers COVID. Um. My oldest daughter was asked
first week of eighth grade, shewas asked what pronouns she wanted to go
by. And so my daughter waslike, mom, like, why is
this? Like why is she askingme this? And so I reached out
to the teacher, got no response, and I was like, okay,
um, just you know, toldmy daughter just be vigilant. Well,

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same teacher, my daughter you knowmost you know she's a teen Well yeah,
she was a teenager at this time, but you know, kids don't
always listen to what you say.But I was like, you know,
just be vigilant and let me knowif there's anything. Well, she recorded
a conversation in her class and thatvery same teacher um was saying. She
was like, oh, we're gonnabe talking about some books that had some
racial themes. And while she neveractually um addressed the literally of the books,

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she just went into like talking tothe kids and saying, as a
African American child, how are youdiscriminated against? As an Asian child,
as an LGBTQ child. You know. She was just like going through all
these identity groups and the children justbecame the classroom just became so chaotic and
they were like no me, i'morpsme know me. And it was just
like the Oppression Olympics and the kidsit was it was wild. And so

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simultaneously, while that was happening,the Long County Virginia. They were having
their uproar about critical race theory.And what many people don't know is that
people think that I just latched ontothis critical race theory thing because it was
a hot thing for conservatives. It'slike, okay, No, I actually

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had studied critical race theory in twentynineteen because of a pastor that I followed,
Vodie Backham, was talking about howcritical race theory had come into the
church through the Southern Baptist Conference.They had actually we adopted an amendment to
bring critical race theory into the church. And I was like, oh,
wow, this is really crazy tobring into church because you know, as

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Christians, critical race theory does notalign with Christian values, and so it
was just it was a fascinating topicto me, and so I just was
reading about it and studying it.Between the Vodie Bachum and this guy Neil
Shinby, and so between the twoof them, I had just learned about
it just out of you know,curiosities, a little bit of a nerd

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that way. So when I heardit in the classroom of these the intersectionality
which is a big part of criticalrace theory, and the teacher dividing them
into their different racial groups. Iknew that this was critical race theory,
and so the governor had was holdinga hearing at the FLOMI Board of Education

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to ban critical race theory. Iwent, I wrote my speech like kind
of in the back of the roomand waited till my turn went up,
spoke. He retweeted that speech andwent viral, and that's how I kind
of got thrust into this whole,like the media side of it. Yeah,
so were you always a conservative orwere you? Oh, were you

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always a conservative? No? No, I I like to say, like,
if you're a black and conservative,typically there's a story. So I
was not always conservative. But afterthe twenty sixteen election, I was talking
about BLM with night with a closefamily member and we were talking about,
you know, black and black crime. We were talking about, you know,

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an armed police shooting, a policeshooting on armed black man. Excuse
me. And you know, obviouslyI feel like I always have to say
this any time injustice is done,especially by people of authority, teachers,
cops. You know, when youare helped, you are health to a
higher standard. That should be thatis not a that's an issue that we

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always should pay attention to not sayingthat that's not an important thing. He
always should. But when I wentto go look, I sat up,
I'm gonna go look up the numbersbecause I really believed that there were like
all these unarmed black men that werebeing killed unjustly by the police. And
when I went to the FBI statisticsand I was like, wait a minute,
I didn't understand. I was likethousands of young black children who were

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being discriminated against, and I'm sorry, good friends who were being killed by
people that looked just like them.And there was where that uprooor. And
so it just prompted me to startdoing more digging. And I found doctor
Thomas soul, I found Walter Williams, I found Little Treatment. I was

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like, like my mind was blown. I could not believe. I had
never heard these men speak. Ihad never heard the real conservative ideas.
I had never heard any of it, and they really just threw my mind.
And I started to question a lotof other things that I had been
told, and I just realized,like, this is not what I want

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to do. Continue to support Democratsthat are literally pushing policies that are totally
against me and my family. Andall the things that I believe in.
And then the real transformation came whenI was sitting on my couch and God
took to my heart and told methat my skin color had become an eyo
in my life and that that wasthe moment that changed everything for me.

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It was like ten thousand pounds hadbeen linsed off of me. It was.
It was just a real transformational momentthat I realized that I could not
look at as a believer. Ishould be looking and living my life through
the lens of Christ and not throughthe lens of being simply just a black
person. And yeah, that wasthe moment that like opened up the doors

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for me to see, Okay,you can't live your life that way,
and it was unpleasing to God.Yeah, and it's crazy that they're teaching
our kids to just you know thatthey're owed something, even anyone, you
know, like the liberal side islike, oh, you're old this or
you know, your old dad.But they're not teaching you can do anything

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you want to do, you canbe anything you well be. You know,
you know what I'm saying, justins insane that um that these schools
are now changing to that like sowhen we get back from you know,
we're gonna go to break in thelittle lamp. Um. But when we
get back, I want to touchbased on um, what they said to
my kid and it's just crazy,just crazy. But I think what you're

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doing is super awesome and it's superempowering to work and of any woman really
and moms, and you know,because I think, like I said earlier,
I think more parents need to beinvolved. For you to step up
and have that courage to just saywhat you're saying and be who you are
is super empowered and I applaud youfor that. Um So yeah, um

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um, So Mom's for Freedom?Are you still a part of that or
is that like intertwined with what you'redoing? Still Mom for Liberty? Um?
We work, we collaborate with differentdifferent groups, so I'm not officially
with them, but we certainly worktogether where we can. Like we've worked
together on a library work group thatwe were doing where we wanted to for

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the librarians to start vetting the booksthat were coming into the schools. So
we've worked together on issues like that, and we work you know, we
want to work with anybody who isaligned with the things that we're trying to
do because it takes a lot,you know, it takes a lot of
people. It takes all of us, you know, to to move this
forward. So we definitely want to, you know, work with as many

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people that see the value and whatwe're doing. So yeah, work with
Moms for Liberty, Moms for America, America First Policy Institute, you know,
any we're open to work with you, to collaborate with people who who
are like minded. Perfect. Okay, well we're gonna go to break and
we'll get back to that in aminute. These days, it seems like

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wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, welcome back. We're here with Keisha
King from Keisha King show. Sowe were talking about, you know,
the school system and parenting and whatnot, and we were talking about how you

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know, parents need to be morepart, should be involved in all this,
and how you're part of the bestat Freedom Works in the advisor at
American First Palestinians too. Um,but let's get into what the teacher how
I got involved If that's okay?Yeah, okay, So how so I

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don't know, So we'll break itdown into our Like I guess the last
meeting that I was at with theschool. Um. I won't say who,
but um, you know, afaculty member. We were at a
school meeting. My son had alunched attention. I don't agree with that.
I think that's bullcrap. Um.First of all, my son's on

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nip um. He is a strugglener, you know, a reader and writer.
Um, so he just needs thoselittle extra steps. So, UM,
I didn't agree with the lunched attention. So I asked to go.
I called the school. I said, you know, I want to be
a part of the lunch attention.I want to sit with my kid.
I want to make sure what he'sdoing because he had a missing assignment.

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Um. In a social study.So when you're when you're a struggling reader
and he he has dyslexia, andI'm going to say it because that's what
he has. Um, he's astruggling reader. So when you're getting get
up a computer screen which is likethis big how you know for him it's
hard to grasp information put it inhis brand and put it on paper.
Right. So, um, hehad a missing assignment like two or maybe

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two. Um, either way whenhe had It's very important for a child
to have that social minute with theirpeers and to decompress. We get to
decompressed in a lunch. We youknow, we have our lunch. We
don't have to do anything during ourlunch. Why why are we making our
kids work during that twenty minutes thatwe have to just relax for a second.

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Yeah, and he's in'trated. Soyou know they're starting to do the
school the classroom transition, but you'restill sitting in a school setting, still
having to work. You're still havingto you know, it's hard. It's
ten times harder for him, isit. When you have this lecture,
your brain works ten times harder thanthe average student. So my son is

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you know trying to figure out allthis information's coming his way. Please excuse
him for missing an assignment? Whyis it? Why was it an email
at home? Why can't I accessmy power school, which I've as a
whole other story in the self.Why wasn't it written his agenda anything?
And why isn't the IEP reaching outto me? So anyway, he got
sent to a lunched attention with theletter on the She printed out the assignment

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and said lunched attention. So Icalled the school and I asked, can
I go, oh, well,parents, never nobody's ever asked to do
this before. And I was quiet, and she's like, but I'll ask.
I'll ask the principle. Okay.So I get a call from the
principle. He's like, yeah,no parent has ever done this. I'm
not sure how we can accommodate it. And I was dead silent because I

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wasn't taking no for an answer.So I was just like, um,
So he's like, but we canprobably arrange something for you. Okay.
Perfect. He's like, you can'tbe in the in the media center where
they go for privacy reasons. Isaid okay. He's like, but we'll
figure it out and I was like, okay. He's like, do you
know what time his lunches? Iwas like, yes, I know what

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time his lunches. So I showup and I'm on time. Jacob my
son's Jacob. He's already in theoffice and there they said, oh,
she's here. They're here. Ohmy gosh, they're here already. So
I'm standing there. I brought himMcDonald's. I brought you know, I
can't prepared, like he's not introuble, so um, they put us
into the conference room. They're allpeeking in, all peeking in. I

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can see them all like scrambling around. And it took me. It took
me about fifteen minutes, no joke, to figure out what assignments he had
to finish because he has the Okay, so we're going to break it down.
If I was not there for thelunch attention, he would have to
wait in the line to get hislunch. Okay. Takes about five five

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ish minutes, okay, okay,then goes up the stairs around the corner
into the room, sets it allup. That's another five or ten minutes.
So you mean to tell me mysoul and one gets five minutes to
eat. How is he going tofinish this assignment? It took us fifteen
minutes to find what tab it wasin. I hate the electronics. I
hate the computer stuff. I hateit, especially for him. It has

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some benefits, but at the endit's it's it's hard for them. Yeah,
and we expect our kids know howto do all of this. And
I understand that they teach and theyshow how to do it, But why
are they spending so much time onthe computer at school and then have to
come home and do the computer workat home and then they scream at you
for doing We don't have screen timefor your limit the screen time, right,

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So we fin we only got weonly got like I think half of
the assignment done. And I wasjust he was here. So if he
did not get that done, wouldhe now have another lunch attention? Another
lunch attention? Why are they nothaving after school or before school? So
then my question is, are you, I'm going to throw it around them,
are you too lazy to be therein the morning? Are you too

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lazy to stay after school? Whydoes he have to suffer his lunch minute
twenty minutes, twenty twenty five minutesto do this. No, not okay
with it. So we had ameeting after that and about like behavior dyslexia.
Kids aren't students that struggle with dyslexiaproject their behavior in a way because

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they're so frustrated with the work.It's not me. That doesn't mean they
have a behavioral issue, just meanthey're so consumed with this that they it's
just too much. And it wasn'teven because he said a couple of one
of his assignments, he wrote like, they asked do you like this book?
No, why don't you like thisbook? It was done, that's

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rue. It even un to yourlife answered the question. So he had
an answer for that. So wehad a meeting. Um one of the
one of the faculty members dropped theword that like, you have a disability.
So now my kid was consumed allday with the word disability, disability,

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I have a disability. Oh mygosh, I'm doound them dumb.
So now you made my son feeldumb. Um. So after he got
done with this whole speed um,I had to look at my son and
say, you are not dumb.I look at the faculty number and I
said, and he is not stupid. The word disability does not mean you're
dumb. So then he had togo back and retract why were glasses and

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glasses kind of helped me. Itdoesn't mean I can't seem I was so
mad. I was about to cryum in the school, like school before
this, they knew. I askedthem, please do not ever drop the
word disability. My son is soself conscious about yes, and he'll hear

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that word and he'll just think he'sstupid, dumb, I'm stupid. I
can't do this. And then notonly did that members say that, he
also said, you know, youmake us proud, but I could be
prouder. So now he heard he'sdumb, you're not proud of him.
Just a whole bunch of negative throughoutthat day. And then I'll requested another

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like an IEP modification meeting because nowwe're going to change everything, like getting
a lunched attention, whatever, sayingthat word you're not ever nothing. Um.
They asked me why. Your answeris to say, okay, not
why, and it took me off. You know, I'm hoping my son's

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sitting here because he under he knewhow mad I was about the lunch attention
and how I don't agree with it. I hope that he was thinking,
my mom doesn't even like lunched attention, you know. So, and so
the reason, the fact that theyasked me why just infuriated me. I

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just couldn't even know it. AndI just looked at him and said,
I just think it needs some adjustments. And that was it, you know,
as I was, I'm a singlemom in the school's eyes. I'm
not married, you know, Ihave a son. He's on an IP.
So I just felt like me beinga single mom, I was,
And I hate feeling like this,but I did feel because it was two
men and a mom and my son. I just kind of felt like there

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should be a woman advisor in hereas well to kind of have that comforting
words to my son, Yeah,well here we are. And UM,
but I think, you know,it's a lot of parents, you know,
mother's in particular, UM, strugglewith having to stand up to the

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school and having to because no,I do know myself, Oh I know,
I do know my daughter. Andthe fact that you dropped that word
it may not mean anything to you, but to them, um, but
to them, did my radio gooff, Oh you're good? Okay?
Um? So to them, it'snot anything different, but to me and

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my son, it's it's it was, it was just a circus. So
so how do you feel about that? What would you yea, what do
you recommend? So? Um,one of the best things that parents can
do is to know the law,know the law where you live and what

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rights you have. And sometimes,um some states have this thing called home
rule where you can basically like it'salready baked in that parents have ultimately that
have we have the last day.Now that's not every state, and home

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roll encompassing other things too, butknowing the law helps you tremendously because I
guarantee you those administrators that you weresitting in front of have no freaking clue
up with the laws. And whenyou can show that, look, I
know my rights, I know um, I know the law, they will

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they will be quick to back upand do what is best for your son.
My youngest daughter is a special needschild. When she was in um
public school, she had an iET as well. I actually pulled both
of my children out and homeschool now, which I love. I just fantastic.
But um, while when when youdo have an i ET, they

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are supposed to buy law, goby what it's on that document. And
when they don't do that, it'sa it's a I don't know if it's
we can say it's a legal document, but it's certainly a yeah, it's
a binding document. UM. Andwhen it's modified, they're supposed to adjust.

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And if you need a meeting togo over, that's not on the
schedule meeting. UM. I've neverhad a I never had a problem scheduling
a meeting UM outside of what wasyou know, the yearly review UM.
If there was some things that neededto be addressed, and you should absolutely

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UM stand your ground when it comesto your your child as far as and
I think this is UM when theyare when when the teacher or whoever is
saying like, oh, they havea disability and they're saying this to your
child, that's your queue that thesepeople don't know, they don't have a
good grasp of childhood development. Andyou knowing that should give you more confidence

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to say I know more than them, because I know that negative reinforcement it's
not good for things. I havea quick story. So one of the
first op eds that I ever wrotewas in the Western Journal. I was
talking about critical right theory, andI was what I was saying, is
this idea that you're going to constantlytell a child that they are oppressed,

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or constantly tell the child that theyare responsible for someone else's oppression, or
you know whatever. If you're constantlypushing a negative idea onto a child,
it is going to have a longterm repercussions of it, and eventually that
will become their reality and they willlive out what you're putting on them.

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So I did some research and Ifound I was just looking up like negative
reinforcement and just the psychology of it. And the story that I found was
there was this clinical um, thisclinician psychology clinician where she had had a
client that came in and he wasstruggling with being a being a leader,
and he was he was offered despitebeing offered a job to in management,

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he still felt that he was unworthyto lead and so it was so debilitating
for him. He went to seekhelp for it. So he's talking to
the counselor and they go they tracedit all the way back when he was
in like kindergarten or first he waslike five or six years old. He
overheard his teacher tell his parents thathe was not He's much. Tony's just

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not much of a leader, He'smore of a follower. Just him overhearing
that one time literally affected him forhis like twenty five years later. And
it's what I'm the point that Itry to make with all you know,
the critical race theory or just liketelling children something negative over and over and

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over again. And I'm not sayingthat you have to lie to kids.
It's like if they're really bad atsomething, you're like, no, you're
great, you know, no,like, don't lie to your child,
But there are definitely ways to encouragethem to either get better or maybe you
should pick up something different, youknow, try something new. And you
know this is you know you canyou can encourage your child to do better
without telling them that they are likenot good enough or not whatever. And

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what we say and what kids here, it can affect them. And sometimes
they don't even know how to processthat information. But they'll just start acting
out in a certain way because oh, they already told me that I'm disabled,
or they already told me that I'myou know, I can't be anything
that I want to be because ofmy skin color or that I am responsible
for you know, two Uterdan fiftyyears of you know America good flavor because

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it might him you know, whateverthe thing is that can literally damage children.
And so yeah, I think you, I think perspective. I think
you should look at that information andthat I hope that it gives you confidence
to know they don't they have noidea what they're talking about. You know,

(32:21):
they might be good at teaching math, but they might they might not
be good at the psychology of kidsthere. They might not be good at,
you know, how to deal withbehavior issues. They might not be
good at different things. They mightbe good at just teaching math, you
know. So I hope that givesyou some confidence to um, to stand

(32:42):
up for your son because he needsyou to. He needs you to be
his advocate more than ever. Rightnow, we're considering homeschooling. I've been
doing my research and all that.So I think a lot of people are
transitioning to homeschooling from what I'm understanding. I'm a part of this group and
this girl shout out her name deepdive on on Instagram. But um,

(33:04):
but with homeschooling, like, doyou get time for yourself, Like,
how is that? Like, that'sso interesting. I kind of want to
touch Facebook book. Yeah. Somy oldest is in a homeschool coop,
so I'm not actually her teacher.She goes to it's a it's like a
little school and a church. Um, she goes Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
And then my youngest, Um,I make her lesson plans, like

(33:25):
so this week we're working on cursivewriting and math, and so what I
give her an assignment. It's it'sso you have to uncouple the idea from
what you think of, Like it'seight hours a day because that's how public
school is ran. You don't haveto do it that way, right,

(33:45):
Yeah, sorry, and so umuh you know you don't. You don't
have to do school the way publicschool is done. It doesn't take really
as much time. It's much morefreeing. So they even come with me,
Like when I go and speak atdifferent places, they come with me.

(34:07):
Those for field trips and so aswe go, they're learning about all
types of things, and it's Ifeel like it's so much more of a
well rounded um environment to learn becausethey get to see action, you know,
they get to see mom in action. They get too. And I'm
a single mom too, so I'ma single parent myself, and um so

(34:28):
I know it's it's difficult. Andyou know, shout out to all you
know, anybody who who does notwho you know, Shout out to the
men who are maybe looking for amom, looking for a mom, looking
for a wife, because you're agirl. It's on the market, but
anyway available fellas, Hello, hello, somebody, that's how you doing?

(34:57):
So they are out there. Yeah, so I go ahead, no,
go ahead. I was just gonnasay, you know, it is it
is possible to get your child bettereducated, even if you decide to do
homesol wids. I think, honestlybetter than charter, better than private.
I think homeschooling is the best thingto do because it has bonded me and

(35:22):
my girls like so much closer.I would have never I don't even feel
like we would have been able tohave this type of relationship that we have
now. And a lot of thethings that they pick up in public school
is just trash. It is justyeah, you know, people are like,
what about the social aspect. It'slike, okay, do you see
what they're I don't want them socializingwith some of these rout rats. You

(35:45):
know, I don't know. Myson came home and was like, you
said, we know our son.We could look at our kids and be
like, something's going on. Hesome girl accused him of saying the word
rape and it wasn't even that,so he got in trouble. I'm like,

(36:06):
I said, show me the video, show me what they're talking about.
Are you sure he did not saythat? So the fact that like
now he's being singled out that Ibelieve is because I'm so you know,
involved now. But they're just allit's like, oh, oh, oh,
oh, this is oh oh yousaid that. He never said that.
So yeah, I highly considering.And you know, I thought talking

(36:29):
with his dad would be a struggleto try to convince him with homeschool.
But he's also on board, sowe've been looking into that good. Yeah.
But you know, just a littlefun fact, homeschool kids are being
considered more. They're being considered firstfor jobs, They're being considered first even
in higher education. Because the kidsthat are coming out of public school,

(36:52):
they are not prepared. They're notprepared for life. And I'm not saying
all kids good grace. I'm notsaying all kids. I'm not saying all,
but a lot of the kids becauseof a model that it is,
they cannot read proficiently, they cannotdo maths proficiently. Some of these kids
do not even know how to runa cash register and has like pictures on

(37:13):
it. It is baffling that whatthese kids do not know when they get
out of these government schools. Andso it has been a blessing to my
family tremendously. So you said youand your daughters are bonding more. Let's
get into that a little bit.So the femininity, Um, you're beautiful.
We just had a conversation during breakabout your hair and all that stuff.

(37:36):
Um, so let's get into that. So, like, how are
you tackling that? So? Um, I was able to really show my
daughters what where I messed up?You know, because I had this feminist
mindset. Um, you know,before that whole trans transformation, Um,

(37:58):
a moment happened, I was alreadycoming out of the feminist sort of mindset.
God was already helping me out ofthat. But um, helping them
to helping them to understand that youdo need a husband, you do need
you know, you don't want todo life by yourself. Let me tell

(38:19):
you this is freaking hard, Likethis idea that I'm an independent woman,
I can do it with all bymyself. No thank you. I want
to retire like I'm ready to retire, Okay, I don't want to do
that, like because it is hard, it is not good, Like why
have we been straddling young girls withthis idea that you don't need a man

(38:40):
to help you through life? Areyou freaking nuts? Like I'm sorry,
I don't want to answer the doorat one o'clock in the morning. Is
some psychoes ring a night door bell? Like I don't want to do that,
No, thank you. I don'twant to, you know, fix
the car. And you know,I believe that there are traditional rules like
I have no dire to freaking modealarm like I'm sorry, I don't.

(39:02):
And if you think that, youknow, that doesn't make me feel more
like I'm a based woman, youknow, or something like that. Because
I don't want to mow the grass, you can have go ahead and do
you bu like you go girl.I think it's so important days are seeing
us be with somebody that loves andprotects and provides. I think that's extremely

(39:25):
important, especially for my son aslike I was always in I was in
that same mindset. I want tobe a boss, you know, like
I want to be that girl,you know, you know, for a
young boy to grow and see aman provide and protect. I think that's
extremely the same with your little girl. So yeah, I've been able to

(39:45):
show them like different, just helpingto insteal that mindset without competing with the
Yeah, the way that you know, society in the school, because that's
the way they would get a lotof these ideas reinforce them, you know,
which is just go and thottle outfor you know, until your thirties
and then you're gonna decide to scoopup a man like it's like no,

(40:07):
he's already like the smart ones alreadytook him, okay. And helping them
understand that has you know, mydaughter's my oldest you know, just opens
up so much about you know,a boy that you know, boys that
she's interested in, or what's happening, Like we just have this The conversations

(40:28):
that we have now have just beenincredible and the trust that we've developed and
the you know, she knows thatshe can come to me about you know,
all of these different things, andI am not competing with values that
don't align with mine because she's gettingwhat I want to instill into her.
And and and we talk about howother people think. We certainly do because

(40:52):
I want her to know. Iwant her to be able to critically think
about Okay, well this is howsome people think about this, and this
is how other people think about this. Um, which we're we're just better
able to have those conversations. Andit's been beautiful. I love it amazing.
Well, we're gonna wrap things up, so let everybody know where they

(41:15):
can follow you. And I thankyou so much for being my first gust.
I'm so happy, so welcome.You can follow me at Keisha king
and dot com. That's QUI sak I n D Yes, it's Keisha
with a que I know, Iknow, yes, um, but at
this Keisha with the queue Kisa Kingdot com. I'm on Instagram, i
am on Twitter, and I'm onYouTube, so go and subscribe to my

(41:37):
channel also, and she single soand scared. Oh oh and I'm sorry,
I have a pot. And theKisa King Show is also a podcast
and you can find that anywhere youget your podcast. So right, Well,
thank you so much. It's beenan honor and a pleasure. You
are very wise and beautiful, sothank you so much much. Yeah,

(42:00):
Ali, this has been so muchfun and good luck on the show.
Follow me on Instagram at Alie UnderscoreMichelle one to follow me on Facebook at
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