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Listener discretion is advised. This isthe FCB Podcast Network. This is pillow
Talk with Ali Michelle podcast Network.Welcome back to another episode of pillow Talk
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with Ali Michelle. I am yourhost, Ali Michelle. I have a
very special guest with me today,certified breastfeeding specialist, ex adult film star,
conservative mom of three, Chelsea Ravey. How are you hi, I'm
doing well. How are you good? Thank you? So, before we
got started, we talked about yourpast. We talked about what you do
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now. I kind of want everybodyto know who you are, why you're
so cool and awesome, and whatmade you become a conservative from being a
lifelong liberal. Yes, absolutely so. Yeah, so my past, well,
currently, I am a mom ofthree. I'm a homeschooling, stay
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at home mom of three, andI am certified in lactation like you mentioned,
So I helped moms normally on avolunteer basis because I am such a
firm and strong believer in all ofthe amazing benefits of breastfeeding. And then,
yeah, I used to be anadult film star almost a decade ago,
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and it was it was an interestingtime. I smile and I laugh
about it now because I feel likethat's really the only way to get passed
it is that you know, Iam who I am because of it.
And I'm actually really happy for thatexperience because it brought me closer towards God.
It brought me closer towards conservatism,of course after I got out of
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it, So it's just a partof my story that that isn't going to
go away no matter what, soI might as well embrace it. And
I think that something that is reallyimportant to me is also helping to teach
other women or encourage other women toget out of it as well. Yeah.
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Yeah, that's heavy, and Icommend you for breaking free, finding
your finding God, finding who youare, becoming an amazing mother. So
you said you are a lactating specialistand you volunteer. So let's get a
little controversial. How to feel towardsthe push slash movement of the transgenders taking
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all these hormones and what is itdoing to our children? In your expertise?
Like, can you break that downfor everybody? Absolutely? So the
first part of the question was howI feel about it, and so unprofessionally
speaking, I think it's a horrificidea and professionally speaking, we do not
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have enough information I think, Imean, just speaking from a conservative perspective,
I think we have already taken somany things from women, like us,
let us be pregnant women, notpregnant people. Let us have our
breastfeeding, not chest feeding like atsome point, let us have our sports,
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our locker rooms or what you know. So how I feel about it
is I get very very heated froma professional perspective when taking hormones to transition
and then to induce lactation. Imean, we're looking at hormones that have
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their own side effects for the transgenderindividual. But then we also have dumb
paradone, which it induces lactation.It is something that we give to moms,
sometimes biological female moms who are strugglingwith lactation. But that's when we're
looking at the really the risk versusbenefit and when it comes to bonding with
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your baby and things of that nature. If breastfeeding is extremely important to the
mother, the benefit might be worthit. What can happen is it can
cause heart issues, it can causeloss of stability, several different things.
And then we look at again theside effects of hormone therapy as well the
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combination. There are so many sideeffects, and so where I come from
when I'm thinking about it is moreso if we're looking at a risk versus
benefit. When one of the studiesthat I read, the conclusion that it
came to is that it is agreat way to firm someone's gender identity as
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a mother. And no, I'msorry, we're supposed to be focusing on
the infant. We're supposed to befocusing on the breastfeeding experience experience. And
so when the conclusion is it'll helpaffirm you, I'm sorry, get affirmation
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through other adults, not children.And the reality is that we do not
have enough information. There are atotal of four case studies as of April
of this year, four only.And so while through those four studies they
found things like, oh, wellthere were some macro nutrients and there might
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there might be some nutritional benefit,there's no long term study and so then
we could get into the whole COVIDtalk. Then I mean, look at
just in the last couple of years, how much has changed from the name
narrative of oh this is going tobe wonderful. You won't get it if
you have it oh wait, now, you won't spread it if you have
it all of these different things.And that's kind of how I look at
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this is we don't have the longterm data, and infants should not be
the ones that we tested on,right, I totally I said the same
thing about, you know when whenwe're pushing adolescence to transition, and I
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swear up and down this is anexperiment on our kids, and you said
it perfectly like our infants aren't tobe tested on. And that's what that's
what essentially is happening, and we'reand we are, we are affirming an
adult. You can go to therapyfor that, right, you can do,
be who you are, be whatyou want, believe our kids the
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frick alone. Really so. Butfirst, because I did not yet mention
it on the podcast, but Itold you the reason I'm sitting funny and
I'm not up propped and professional isbecause this is called pillow talk. And
so here we are on a giantpillow. Yes, thank you for pulminating
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that. I love love love.I think that's thet thing ever. I
feel like I have to do it, and I'm sorry, I'm sy to
see you know, we're both inOhio and so with the weather, it's
just up and down and here wego. So so back to the lactatian
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thing. I really what I thinkbothers me so much about it is that
I have sat on the phone inperson over message for hours and hours and
hours with moms that are struggling andto see that and to help them overcome
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that, and then to hear like, oh, but a man can do
it, justice like yeah, no, it's really bothersome because I also have
sat with moms who like it tookthem so long to be able to figure
it out and to get it.And what's really unfortunate is that there's so
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many options right now that you know, I think we've kind of lost where
mothers and grandmothers passed down that informationand it was just like a known skill
and this is normal, and sowe're not normalizing it for women, and
where chastuising moms for breastfeeding in public, we're not normalizing breastfeeding where it should
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be normalized. But then we're expectedto normalize it for a biological mail.
That is what I cannot get past, right. I have a personal story,
So I too, am a momof one who's struggling with infertility and
all that. But when my son, when I had him, I to
my left side stopped producing milk period. So then you know, I was
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depending on my right side this myleft side just would not work anymore.
And it broke my heart. Iwas like shattered it. Like I was
devastated because I did not want todo the whole I didn't want to do
the formula. I wasn't as likeI want to call it crunchy as I
am now, but like I stillhad my like, oh you know,
that's weird, you know. Andthen I was upset when like the nurses
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were pushing the formula as soon ashe came out. Like there was a
lot of things that happened during mylabor that I just did not agree with
or like, you know, aswell as like the imanizations. I know,
you speak up and speak out againstthat. And the more and more
I dig into it, the moreI've listened to podcasts and like other specialist
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doctors who are speaking up against specificyou know, shots and vaccines, I'm
like, oh my gosh, likeI really just pumped that into my child,
and the like the same thing withgoes with like guard to sell for
women. I've like researched maybe that'sthe reason I'm having all these issues as
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well. So I want to kindof get your your your opinion and advice
on the vaccines for when moment ofbirth. Yes, oh absolutely so for
vaccines. It's something that I amextremely passionate about. That I was passionate
about before. It was something thatI was, you know, I was
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a like pro pro vaccinate mom,like very liberal pro vaccine, pro like
all these things that I am completeand total opposite of. Now, it
wasn't until and I should have knownwhen. So my first child is eleven,
and when he got his one yearvaccines, he broke out into an
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full like a full body rash,a bunch of it's had a one oh
five fever. It was absolutely terrifying. And I was pretty much told like,
you know, this is a reaction. It'll go away, but don't
worry, it won't happen again.And back then I'm like, oh,
well, we believe doctors, sothat's right. So it was until my
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second child, eight years later,when he got his six month round of
shots, he completely changed. Hestopped babbling, he stopped making eye contact,
he stopped doing all of the thingsthat your baby does, you know,
And so that is when I startedto do a little bit of a
deeper dive. And I will saythat from the moment of birth, we're
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expected to give children a heppatitis fedvaccine within the first twenty four hours.
That's based on very old information.So I think it's absolutely atrocious to put
something into a brand new infant.Okay, and we'll be back after our
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back to pillow Talk with Ali Michelle. We have Chelsea Revey here you can
continue perfect So I shared a littlebit about my story and I'll go back
to that, but just to answeryour first question about it, as we
give children this happetitis feed vaccine withinthe first twenty four hours of birth.
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It's based on very very old information. Unless the mother is actually infected with
hepatitis B, it's atrocious to givean infant a vaccine. In my opinion.
We give a vitamin K shot aswell, which I don't see why
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there is not a liquid or oralor you know, if vitamin K is
necessary, and it's not always necessary. It really just it depends on so
many different factors. And so it'sone of the biggest problems with childhood vaccines
is that they're not They're not individualized, right, so they are looked at
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as like this blanket thing that everychild needs, and every child needs the
same ones, and they give somany at once. They give up to
eight doses at one time, andI know before COVID was introduced, so
we're sixty nine doses on the childhoodschedule, which is just insane to me.
But I also want to say,when you were saying, oh my
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gosh, what did I do?Did I do this to myself? We
only know what we know when weknow it. I mean, I would
hate for you to think that youcaused anything. It's something that I've been
struggling with is that with my nowthree year old, so my second child,
he has autism. And so that'sanother thing is that there are so
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many people who the moment you sayvaccine and autism in the same sentence,
a scream or like it's been disproven, it actually hasn't been. And so
that's I think one of the biggesttakeaways that I could give anybody when researching
at all is to look from aperspective, am I reading a biased piece
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of information or am I reading somethingfactual? And a really good way to
figure that out is to look atwho funded be study, because a lot
of times it goes back to themanufact sures also hidden very very well from
the manufacturers himself all of the information. So read the vaccine inserts, read
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the studies of injuries that have happened, and so there are, like I
said, sixty nine, probably waymore now doses that are recommended. And
my first child got pretty much allof his up until this point. My
second son, who is three,got his up until six months or he
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got his six month shots, andthen I noticed a change and he wasn't
due to get anymore until a year. That's when. At that point,
I was not associating his change inbehavior with the shots at all. And
fortunately, my mom, like thewonderful human she is, always like second
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guessing everything, asked me to pleasewait and to please just do some research.
And it was in that moment thatI had to transfer schools because I
actually would not get the second COVIDvaccine because I had I have a blood
clotting disorder. There were so manydifferent things, and I was in nursing
school at the time, and myvery first class that I had to take
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was an ethics class, and wewatched documentary about vaccines and it was about
the one year vaccines. So likeall of these little sprinkles of like what
I like to call god moments,happened where it brought me to disrealization,
I cannot let him get another round. And so after that, I dove
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so much deeper and I started listeningto the vaccine conversation. Candie Owens put
out her her series A Shot inthe Dark, and those are just amazing
because both of them never tell youwhat to do. They simply give you
information and let you decide for yourself. And so when I had my third
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child, he didn't get any andthat was a really big thing for me.
And it's also really hard to finda pediatrician that will take your child
when they're not vaccinated. And letme just say, my one year old,
he's one now, he has overthirty words, and he is one
year and two months old. He'swell or three months, he's fifteen months
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old. He is like astoundingly advanced. And of course it's going to look
different for every kid. And Ithink that's that's where there are certain factors
to look at. And I just, I really I implore all moms,
dads, anyone who is caring fora child to actually research and not just
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take what the doctor says at facevalue. And now I'm going to tie
it back to lactation, because twothings that pediatricians are not educated on lactation
and vaccines. And you would thinkthat because a portion, probably a very
large portion of their patients are infants, that they would be educated on those.
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Med school does not educate on either. Besides maybe like a little blip
of like, oh, here's somestuff about lactation, here's some stuff about
vaccines. And why you need topush them. Also, at the end
of the year, most pediatricians geta bonus for having all of their kids
on schedule, and so you willget kicked out of the office. So
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I found a lot of it's beenvery helpful for me to go and see
integrated specialists or more homeopathic doctors.And I've also noticed the difference in just
the way that they care for mychildren. It's a very not like,
oh, we have to push youout in fifteen minutes, but hey,
let's talk about everything. Let's talkabout your other kids. And I might
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go there with one thing and theNOWS pops up and they're not charging me
four times for four different conversations,and so it's just it's something to think
about for sure. But something thatI've really struggled with when it comes to
breastfeeding and helping moms is that doctorsdo not get lactation education at all like
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they And that's one of the reasonswhy hospitals push formula. Doctors push formula.
They're like, oh, well,your baby needs this. They don't
actually know what the infant needs whenit comes to lactation and just how much
the milk changes depending on the babyand the circumstance. So right, I
could I could go on probably weprobably have a whole series on it.
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We can always have another episode.I love hearing this. So when so
two things, is there a vaccinethat you are like totally four? Because
I know there's been ones that havebeen around for a hundred, like one
hundred years, and during COVID thewhy I really started to like essentially panic.
I didn't have a newborn, butI am totally like pro mom,
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a pro single mom, you knowall that I'm very in tune with that.
This formula shortage was insane. Mycousin has a baby. She couldn't
find formula anywhere and she wasn't breastfeeding, and it's like, at that moment,
what do you do? You know? And then so yeah, my
two questions are is there anything thatyou like? Are you for a specific
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vaccine, are you against all vaccines? Or yeah? So for my first
question, I would say, atthis moment, there is not one that
I am a hard yes for atall, And I'm still doing my research.
As far as the infant and childlike early childhood schedule goes, I
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personally would not give any until atleast three years old, and that was
if I found that, I waslike, yes, this definitely definitely should
happen. And a big reason whyis because they say, well, this
has been eradicated or this has beeneradicated, and that's actually not always the
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case. Sometimes it's just rebranded asanother illness. And so one of the
things I look at is the sideeffects of the illness versus the side effects
of the vaccine, and so whichone am I more likely to survive with,
like going through this with my baby, and a lot of the illnesses
that we vaccinate for were routine childhoodillnesses before. So I am not a
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hard yess on any at the currentmoment, and that might change, you
know. I'm still, like Isaid, of conducting my research, I
because so much of the brain developsbetween birth and three years old. I
think that I wouldn't even consider formy youngest. If there's one that I'm
like, yeah, this actually isbetter, I wouldn't even do it until
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three Interesting. That's first of all, that's like brave because we've been so
fear mongered into everything, So that'svery interesting. I'm more and more women
are having on the same train thatyou are on and I know with me
considering, you know, when Ihave a baby, it's kind of hard
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to decide, you know, likewhat do I or do I not?
That's why I that's why I definitelyrecommend looking to some of those resources that
I mentioned, and just even thosetwo alone, the Vaccine Conversation and a
Shot in the Dark. Between thetwo of them, they go through pretty
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much every illness, every shot.They give you the risks and benefits of
both, and it really allows youto make your own decision. So yeah,
I would say I'm a hard nofor right now, but I used
to be a hard yes on everything. So you know, we grow,
we learn more, and well,definitely, if you get pregnant again anytime
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soon, we'll go through them alltogether. Perfect. Yeah, and anybody
who's listening to this, don't beafraid to reach out to Chelsea Revey on
her social media accounts. We willplug those at the end. But you
said you were a diehard liberal,so let's get into that topic. I
know there's a lot of talk aboutlike OnlyFans it's huge, you know,
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but on the conservative side they're fightingit. So you were a diehard liberal
ex adult film star, So whatmade you do it? What made you
leave everything in between? And yeah, yeah, so I I don't.
So I never really followed politics fora long time. I was liberal,
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not because I voted that way,but because that's how I lived my life.
And so oh I was very prolike pro transgender everything, pro drag
shows, pro do whatever you want. And not that I'm anti be yourself
as an adult now, but Imean that was just one very very small
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piece of the pie. And asyou mentioned with my past, so what
happened was I was in a notvery good relationship when I got pregnant with
my first son, and we wereliving about two hours away from my home
or my family. And so Igot pregnant and I was nineteen, and
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I was terrified and we moved thatcloser to my parents, and there was
a lot of emotional, physical,verbal abuse in the relationship, and when
he was born that was kind ofand there was also, I mean,
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drug use, there were very therewere things that definitely influenced that. And
so when I got pregnant, Iwas like, Okay, I'm cleaning up
my life, I'm going home,I'm going to have this baby. I'm
going to make this work. Andhe ended up coming with me back home
and we got our own apartment andit was I think within the first three
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months of my son being born thatthere was one fight, one time that
he raised his hand to me onemore time and he didn't get the chance,
and it was in that moment wenever got back together. And I
will say we do have a greatco parenting relationship now, So I'm not
trying to drag or anything like that. He's grown a lot over the years.
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I've grown a lot over the years. Being young and on abstince ads
and just not being good human definitelyaffecting. But so I was a single
mom, and I was a singlemom of a three month old, and
at the time, I was workinga full time sales job. I was
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sales later of the month, Iwas killing it. I went back to
work after six weeks of having him, and so I was like, go,
go, go. And it's somethingthat hurt my soul because I would
wake up and take him to daycareand go to work all day, sometimes
have meetings after work, come homeand we had enough time for a bedtime
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story and a bath and then itwas bedtime again. So I can't relate
to everything you're saying. Yeah,and so I didn't get to raise my
baby, and it was something thatwas definitely a sore part of me,
a sore point of me. Sowhat happened was I was also at the
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time doing modeling and different things likethat, which I had been doing for
years. I started dance classes beforeI was two. I was the youngest
at the studio. So I've alwaysbeen a performer. I took acting classes,
I'd written songs, I've done youknow, the whole spectrum of performing
arts. And so I was modelingat the time, and then I was
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dancing at night when I could overthe weekend to make extra cash because I
had literally just I was like maybefive hundred dollars over the poverty line.
So I didn't qualify for food stamps. I didn't qualify I know that feeling,
Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, So I didn't qualify for anything
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at all, and so I wasdoing it all on my own at the
time. Wasn't getting Giles sport.I still don't, but I'm literally living
my story. I'm literally yeah,except I wasn't a dancer or anything,
but keep going. Yeah, yeah, So it was really anything that I
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could do to ensure that we hadour bills fade, and that is you
know, that was working. Andthen that was sometimes picking up the night
shift and saying good night, Ilove you, going to bed, and
then ansider taking over or taking themsomewhere, and that was rough. And
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if I wasn't twenty or twenty oneat the time, like I don't think
my body like today, my bodycould never ever, So what was that
moment of like I gotta stop,like I gotta stop, you know,
selling my body. I have tostop, like I have to just stop.
Well, first I'll explain really quick, and I saw and going fine,
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Well, what happened and how Igot into it is that I was
doing that. I was modeling,and then I was at a ring girl
competition for I don't know if youremember what was the name of the show
it was, I don't even remembernow, but there was a show and
it was about the ring girls forlike the Mayweather flight fights and stuff like
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that, like the MMA. Yeah. Yeah, So I was at an
audition for it and I ended upfinding out later that I actually made it
and I would have been one ofthem, but that wasn't until after I
a producer approached and was like,hey, have you ever thought about this?
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And at the time, I'm like, well, I'm, you know,
super open about you know who Iam. I love who I am.
I was so confident, and hepretty much sold me. I'm like,
you'll fly out to LA for oneweek and then the last the other
three weeks of the month. Younever have to leave, you never have
to leave your baby, you neverhave to go to work. You will
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make all the money you need toin one week and come home and that
can be your life. And atthe time, I'm like, okay,
sign me up. Like, ofcourse, leaving him was horrible. This
at this point, he was ayear and a half old. I was
twenty one, and it was hardto leave. But it was I think
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the really big point for me atthe time, or the reason that it
was so easy to get stucked intoit, was because I was missing what
I felt I needed as a mom, which was time with him, and
this was my way to do that. And so that's what I did.
Within a few weeks, I hoppedon the flight and I was out in
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LA and I went in very very, very blind. And that is something
that I think is a lot differentnow with like of and things like that,
is that girls have a little bitmore control. I know some are
still under agents and managers, andof course they would take any chance to
get girls on for that. ButI so I have I think, across
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all platforms. And this isn't evenconsidering DVDs or my appearances or my magazine
sales or anything like that. ButI have like thirty million views, and
that like was a decade ago,you know. Yeah, and then I
also did appearance that like the AvanAwards, and had my own booth at
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the Exotic Expo, and so itwas, you know, it was a
big deal at the time. Andwhat made me get out of it because
I was in it for a coupleof years, Well, I would say
several depends on what you include inthat were a couple of things. And
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the first thing I'll mention is kindof what I was just saying is that
I went in very, very blind, and so I didn't know that I
would never see a royalty. Ididn't know that I would never ever ever
get paid long term for the stuffthat I was doing. And so the
pay in comparison to the loss rightthe loss of the world seeing my body,
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the laws of knowing that this isout there forever and that my children
will inevitably find it, and myoldest did at one point completely not even
looking at that, but looking upone of my songs, which we can
even get into that story. Butfortunately I've read some pretty incredible kids.
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So and it was also so longago. But the main thing was,
it wasn't at the end of theday looking at those two factors. One,
it's not like I'm making a milliondollar empire, which a lot of
women are now on, not alot the top one percent are on of
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and nothing like that was around backthen when I was doing it. Yeah,
the cost was not worth the lossat all. And I knew that
if I didn't get out as soonas possible, that it was eventually going
to come back up. And soI see this little amazing boy growing and
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I'm like, okay, I've donemy time and it at that point I'm
like, okay, I'm going tostop right now, and then he'll never
find it and all will be well. And that was really it. It
was just looking at him and realizingwho I wanted him to be and who
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I wanted him to know. Hismom as Yeah, and I didn't realize
that it would blow up as quicklyas it did. Like by the time
I landed in Cleveland from LA,the first like mini clip was on one
of the free sights and within oneminute had one hundred thousand views. Within
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one day it had millions. AndI was getting messages from people that I
went to high school with and andit was just wild. But anyway,
you weren't getting you weren't getting anything. We were getting paid any of that
money. Oh my, that's no, that's wild to me. Yeah.
It was these like producing disgusting menwere like making money off of you.
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Oh they still are? That isdiscuss still are yep? I am so
sorry, Like that is I can'teven fathom it, you know, I
cannot even fathom it because, likeyou said, like I mean, girls
have more control, which actually Iwant to ask this question. You don't
have to answer if you don't wantto. But were you ever like harmed
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physically, like were you five menon in the industry or were they respectful?
Like how so? I will saythe one thing about the industry,
at least when I was in it, it was very very professional. I
think that we probably spent more timedoing paperwork than we did filming. Oh,
very very professional. Everybody gets tested. You have to see the other
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person's test, their idea, findit. You have to get tested every
two weeks on the two week mark, and you can't even be an hour
over or like a day over.It so physically harmed. No, however,
like I said, as far asgoing and blind, they are very
very good at manipulating. And Ididn't realize that I had any room,
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you know, to wiggle to meat a nineteen year old or I was
team when I got pregnant, twentywhen I had him, twenty one when
I started, and so to asingle mom who's literally freshly twenty like in
her twenties, hearing that I canmake ten grand in a week was like,
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yes, I'll do it, youknow, And so I didn't think
long term about it. And Ialso, like I said, when I
first went out, did not realizethat it would get as big as it
did. And I wasn't even init for that long, so I was
not physically armed. Not to saythat that does not happen to people.
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I was afterwards by someone who hadcompletely nothing to do with it, but
that was used against me. Itwas like, well, I know that
this is what you want because Isaw it. Oh my gosh. And
so there's obviously been tons of traumato work through, which is why I'm
able to talk about it today.And I think it's really important to shine
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a light on it because women needto know, like, if you're going
into this, don't just don't don'tgo in. That's what I was going
to say. Next, do youhave any advice for women that are considering
it, especially it's so easy foryoung single moms to fall into that quick
money, but you're paying for yourentire life. Yeah, go ahead,
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No, go ahead? What reason? No? Go ahead? Yeah?
Literally forever. And I was very, very fortunate to find a man who
I had my other two children with, who gives me a phenomenal life.
Like I said, I'm a stayat home, home schooling mom. He
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always considers my first his first becausehe taught him how to be a dad
before he had children of his own. So we have an amazing family,
and we have a beautiful home,and we have a beautiful life. And
so I recognize that my sitchuation isnot the norm when people get out,
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So yeah, I would say,my biggest advice would be to look long
term and what are you willing togive up in the future for the benefit
right now, Because the benefit rightnow might beem like everything, and it's
not. It's always going to bethere. And I was thoroughly convinced that
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it would never ever ever come upyears later, like, oh, I'll
be so long gone by then therewill be so many new people out no
one's going to find it, noone's going to care. It has not
stopped haunting me since, and sothat's when I really started to take like
my own power over it, like, Okay, if people are going to
always bring this up, well I'mgoing to share my story and I'm going
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to help people love it so sothat I would say that's really the biggest
thing. Is the decision that you'remaking right now going to benefit you in
the short term the long term neitheror both. And I can say the
most likely thing is that you willnot be beneficial in the long term,
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and that go ahead. Oh,I was just gonna say. That fits
both in with the lactation experiments,you know, young women and adults,
and so I can like we're totallystrangers. We've never met each other,
but we've followed each other I thinksince I was like sixteen. I think
I remember seeing yeah Facebook and Iwas like, she's so beautiful, But
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I know I'm probably just you andI love that, like we've always been
there but not there. Yeah,So I really like appreciate you coming on
with an open mind and having somuch insight on both subjects that our is
really relevant in today with both subjectso I think you have a lot to
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share and I hope I get tohelp with your journey in anything you need.
But let people know where they canfollow you, how they can contact
you, and thank you so muchfor coming on. I definitely want to
plan another show because I have somuch stuff to talk about with like motherhood
and stuff, and I love tohave a conversation and going back and forth
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with like traumatic stories and ex boyfriendsand you know all that stuff. So
if that, if that's something you'reinterested, I will definitely email you.
Yeah, I would love to.I think we should definitely do a part
two because I like this whole timewe were just kind of talking about so
much and I didn't even get toshare like how I became conservative. Yeah,
yeah, got out that we're goingto have to do a part two,
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and I mean this might be afive part series by so on Facebook,
which is my largest following right now, it's Chelsea Ravey Manion and the
spelling. I'm sure you're going topost it and link and then TikTok.
I'm just getting warmed up. I'mjust getting started, but definitely follow me
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because I will be posting more.Yeah, all lowercase chelthy X mom,
and the X stands for multiplied liketime's fine. Need I need to change
it is what I need, ohdear. And then Instagram is just Chelse
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revet I need to have like aI should probably just kind of combine all
of them. And then on YouTubeit's chealthy underscore mom. So those are
the ways you can find me,and they're all different. So hopefully you
caught all of every single name.I'll plug your name everywhere and I'll make
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it more universal in the future.You got it, But thank you so
much for coming on. I reallyreally really appreciate it. Thank you for
It's been wonderful and I've been lookingforward to more conversation. Yes me too.
Thank you for joining this episode ofpillow Talk with Ali Michelle again.
I am your host, Ali Michelle. Please follow me at at Ali Underscore,
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Talk with Ali Michelle podcast Network.Welcome back to another episode of pillow Talk
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with Ali Michelle. I am yourhost, Ali Michelle. I have a
very special guest with me today,certified breastfeeding specialist, ex adult film star,
conservative mom of three, Chelsea Ravey. How are you hi, I'm
doing well. How are you good? Thank you? So, before we
got started, we talked about yourpast. We talked about what you do
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now. I kind of want everybodyto know who you are, why you're
so cool and awesome, and whatmade you become a conservative from being a
lifelong liberal. Yes, absolutely so. Yeah, so my past, well,
currently, I am a mom ofthree. I'm a homeschooling, stay
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at home mom of three, andI am certified in lactation like you mentioned,
So I helped moms normally on avolunteer basis because I am such a
firm and strong believer in all ofthe amazing benefits of breastfeeding. And then,
yeah, I used to be anadult film star almost a decade ago,
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and it was it was an interestingtime. I smile and I laugh
about it now because I feel likethat's really the only way to get passed
it is that you know, Iam who I am because of it.
And I'm actually really happy for thatexperience because it brought me closer towards God.
It brought me closer towards conservatism,of course after I got out of
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it, So it's just a partof my story that that isn't going to
go away no matter what, soI might as well embrace it. And
I think that something that is reallyimportant to me is also helping to teach
other women or encourage other women toget out of it as well. Yeah.
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Yeah, that's heavy, and Icommend you for breaking free, finding
your finding God, finding who youare, becoming an amazing mother. So
you said you are a lactating specialistand you volunteer. So let's get a
little controversial. How to feel towardsthe push slash movement of the transgenders taking
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all these hormones and what is itdoing to our children? In your expertise?
Like, can you break that downfor everybody? Absolutely? So the
first part of the question was howI feel about it, and so unprofessionally
speaking, I think it's a horrificidea and professionally speaking, we do not
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have enough information I think, Imean, just speaking from a conservative perspective,
I think we have already taken somany things from women, like us,
let us be pregnant women, notpregnant people. Let us have our
breastfeeding, not chest feeding like atsome point, let us have our sports,
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our locker rooms or what you know. So how I feel about it
is I get very very heated froma professional perspective when taking hormones to transition
and then to induce lactation. Imean, we're looking at hormones that have
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their own side effects for the transgenderindividual. But then we also have dumb
paradone, which it induces lactation.It is something that we give to moms,
sometimes biological female moms who are strugglingwith lactation. But that's when we're
looking at the really the risk versusbenefit and when it comes to bonding with
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your baby and things of that nature. If breastfeeding is extremely important to the
mother, the benefit might be worthit. What can happen is it can
cause heart issues, it can causeloss of stability, several different things.
And then we look at again theside effects of hormone therapy as well the
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combination. There are so many sideeffects, and so where I come from
when I'm thinking about it is moreso if we're looking at a risk versus
benefit. When one of the studiesthat I read, the conclusion that it
came to is that it is agreat way to firm someone's gender identity as
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a mother. And no, I'msorry, we're supposed to be focusing on
the infant. We're supposed to befocusing on the breastfeeding experience experience. And
so when the conclusion is it'll helpaffirm you, I'm sorry, get affirmation
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through other adults, not children.And the reality is that we do not
have enough information. There are atotal of four case studies as of April
of this year, four only.And so while through those four studies they
found things like, oh, wellthere were some macro nutrients and there might
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there might be some nutritional benefit,there's no long term study and so then
we could get into the whole COVIDtalk. Then I mean, look at
just in the last couple of years, how much has changed from the name
narrative of oh this is going tobe wonderful. You won't get it if
you have it oh wait, now, you won't spread it if you have
it all of these different things.And that's kind of how I look at
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this is we don't have the longterm data, and infants should not be
the ones that we tested on,right, I totally I said the same
thing about, you know when whenwe're pushing adolescence to transition, and I
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swear up and down this is anexperiment on our kids, and you said
it perfectly like our infants aren't tobe tested on. And that's what that's
what essentially is happening, and we'reand we are, we are affirming an
adult. You can go to therapyfor that, right, you can do,
be who you are, be whatyou want, believe our kids the
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frick alone. Really so. Butfirst, because I did not yet mention
it on the podcast, but Itold you the reason I'm sitting funny and
I'm not up propped and professional isbecause this is called pillow talk. And
so here we are on a giantpillow. Yes, thank you for pulminating
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that. I love love love.I think that's thet thing ever. I
feel like I have to do it, and I'm sorry, I'm sy to
see you know, we're both inOhio and so with the weather, it's
just up and down and here wego. So so back to the lactatian
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thing. I really what I thinkbothers me so much about it is that
I have sat on the phone inperson over message for hours and hours and
hours with moms that are struggling andto see that and to help them overcome
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that, and then to hear like, oh, but a man can do
it, justice like yeah, no, it's really bothersome because I also have
sat with moms who like it tookthem so long to be able to figure
it out and to get it.And what's really unfortunate is that there's so
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many options right now that you know, I think we've kind of lost where
mothers and grandmothers passed down that informationand it was just like a known skill
and this is normal, and sowe're not normalizing it for women, and
where chastuising moms for breastfeeding in public, we're not normalizing breastfeeding where it should
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be normalized. But then we're expectedto normalize it for a biological mail.
That is what I cannot get past, right. I have a personal story,
So I too, am a momof one who's struggling with infertility and
all that. But when my son, when I had him, I to
my left side stopped producing milk period. So then you know, I was
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depending on my right side this myleft side just would not work anymore.
And it broke my heart. Iwas like shattered it. Like I was
devastated because I did not want todo the whole I didn't want to do
the formula. I wasn't as likeI want to call it crunchy as I
am now, but like I stillhad my like, oh you know,
that's weird, you know. Andthen I was upset when like the nurses
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were pushing the formula as soon ashe came out. Like there was a
lot of things that happened during mylabor that I just did not agree with
or like, you know, aswell as like the imanizations. I know,
you speak up and speak out againstthat. And the more and more
I dig into it, the moreI've listened to podcasts and like other specialist
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doctors who are speaking up against specificyou know, shots and vaccines, I'm
like, oh my gosh, likeI really just pumped that into my child,
and the like the same thing withgoes with like guard to sell for
women. I've like researched maybe that'sthe reason I'm having all these issues as
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well. So I want to kindof get your your your opinion and advice
on the vaccines for when moment ofbirth. Yes, oh absolutely so for
vaccines. It's something that I amextremely passionate about. That I was passionate
about before. It was something thatI was, you know, I was
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a like pro pro vaccinate mom,like very liberal pro vaccine, pro like
all these things that I am completeand total opposite of. Now, it
wasn't until and I should have knownwhen. So my first child is eleven,
and when he got his one yearvaccines, he broke out into an
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full like a full body rash,a bunch of it's had a one oh
five fever. It was absolutely terrifying. And I was pretty much told like,
you know, this is a reaction. It'll go away, but don't
worry, it won't happen again.And back then I'm like, oh,
well, we believe doctors, sothat's right. So it was until my
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second child, eight years later,when he got his six month round of
shots, he completely changed. Hestopped babbling, he stopped making eye contact,
he stopped doing all of the thingsthat your baby does, you know,
And so that is when I startedto do a little bit of a
deeper dive. And I will saythat from the moment of birth, we're
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expected to give children a heppatitis fedvaccine within the first twenty four hours.
That's based on very old information.So I think it's absolutely atrocious to put
something into a brand new infant.Okay, and we'll be back after our
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back to pillow Talk with Ali Michelle. We have Chelsea Revey here you can
continue perfect So I shared a littlebit about my story and I'll go back
to that, but just to answeryour first question about it, as we
give children this happetitis feed vaccine withinthe first twenty four hours of birth.
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It's based on very very old information. Unless the mother is actually infected with
hepatitis B, it's atrocious to givean infant a vaccine. In my opinion.
We give a vitamin K shot aswell, which I don't see why
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there is not a liquid or oralor you know, if vitamin K is
necessary, and it's not always necessary. It really just it depends on so
many different factors. And so it'sone of the biggest problems with childhood vaccines
is that they're not They're not individualized, right, so they are looked at
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as like this blanket thing that everychild needs, and every child needs the
same ones, and they give somany at once. They give up to
eight doses at one time, andI know before COVID was introduced, so
we're sixty nine doses on the childhoodschedule, which is just insane to me.
But I also want to say,when you were saying, oh my
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gosh, what did I do?Did I do this to myself? We
only know what we know when weknow it. I mean, I would
hate for you to think that youcaused anything. It's something that I've been
struggling with is that with my nowthree year old, so my second child,
he has autism. And so that'sanother thing is that there are so
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many people who the moment you sayvaccine and autism in the same sentence,
a scream or like it's been disproven, it actually hasn't been. And so
that's I think one of the biggesttakeaways that I could give anybody when researching
at all is to look from aperspective, am I reading a biased piece
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of information or am I reading somethingfactual? And a really good way to
figure that out is to look atwho funded be study, because a lot
of times it goes back to themanufact sures also hidden very very well from
the manufacturers himself all of the information. So read the vaccine inserts, read
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the studies of injuries that have happened, and so there are, like I
said, sixty nine, probably waymore now doses that are recommended. And
my first child got pretty much allof his up until this point. My
second son, who is three,got his up until six months or he
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got his six month shots, andthen I noticed a change and he wasn't
due to get anymore until a year. That's when. At that point,
I was not associating his change inbehavior with the shots at all. And
fortunately, my mom, like thewonderful human she is, always like second
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guessing everything, asked me to pleasewait and to please just do some research.
And it was in that moment thatI had to transfer schools because I
actually would not get the second COVIDvaccine because I had I have a blood
clotting disorder. There were so manydifferent things, and I was in nursing
school at the time, and myvery first class that I had to take
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was an ethics class, and wewatched documentary about vaccines and it was about
the one year vaccines. So likeall of these little sprinkles of like what
I like to call god moments,happened where it brought me to disrealization,
I cannot let him get another round. And so after that, I dove
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so much deeper and I started listeningto the vaccine conversation. Candie Owens put
out her her series A Shot inthe Dark, and those are just amazing
because both of them never tell youwhat to do. They simply give you
information and let you decide for yourself. And so when I had my third
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child, he didn't get any andthat was a really big thing for me.
And it's also really hard to finda pediatrician that will take your child
when they're not vaccinated. And letme just say, my one year old,
he's one now, he has overthirty words, and he is one
year and two months old. He'swell or three months, he's fifteen months
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old. He is like astoundingly advanced. And of course it's going to look
different for every kid. And Ithink that's that's where there are certain factors
to look at. And I just, I really I implore all moms,
dads, anyone who is caring fora child to actually research and not just
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take what the doctor says at facevalue. And now I'm going to tie
it back to lactation, because twothings that pediatricians are not educated on lactation
and vaccines. And you would thinkthat because a portion, probably a very
large portion of their patients are infants, that they would be educated on those.
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Med school does not educate on either. Besides maybe like a little blip
of like, oh, here's somestuff about lactation, here's some stuff about
vaccines. And why you need topush them. Also, at the end
of the year, most pediatricians geta bonus for having all of their kids
on schedule, and so you willget kicked out of the office. So
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I found a lot of it's beenvery helpful for me to go and see
integrated specialists or more homeopathic doctors.And I've also noticed the difference in just
the way that they care for mychildren. It's a very not like,
oh, we have to push youout in fifteen minutes, but hey,
let's talk about everything. Let's talkabout your other kids. And I might
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go there with one thing and theNOWS pops up and they're not charging me
four times for four different conversations,and so it's just it's something to think
about for sure. But something thatI've really struggled with when it comes to
breastfeeding and helping moms is that doctorsdo not get lactation education at all like
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they And that's one of the reasonswhy hospitals push formula. Doctors push formula.
They're like, oh, well,your baby needs this. They don't
actually know what the infant needs whenit comes to lactation and just how much
the milk changes depending on the babyand the circumstance. So right, I
could I could go on probably weprobably have a whole series on it.
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We can always have another episode.I love hearing this. So when so
two things, is there a vaccinethat you are like totally four? Because
I know there's been ones that havebeen around for a hundred, like one
hundred years, and during COVID thewhy I really started to like essentially panic.
I didn't have a newborn, butI am totally like pro mom,
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a pro single mom, you knowall that I'm very in tune with that.
This formula shortage was insane. Mycousin has a baby. She couldn't
find formula anywhere and she wasn't breastfeeding, and it's like, at that moment,
what do you do? You know? And then so yeah, my
two questions are is there anything thatyou like? Are you for a specific
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vaccine, are you against all vaccines? Or yeah? So for my first
question, I would say, atthis moment, there is not one that
I am a hard yes for atall, And I'm still doing my research.
As far as the infant and childlike early childhood schedule goes, I
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personally would not give any until atleast three years old, and that was
if I found that, I waslike, yes, this definitely definitely should
happen. And a big reason whyis because they say, well, this
has been eradicated or this has beeneradicated, and that's actually not always the
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case. Sometimes it's just rebranded asanother illness. And so one of the
things I look at is the sideeffects of the illness versus the side effects
of the vaccine, and so whichone am I more likely to survive with,
like going through this with my baby, and a lot of the illnesses
that we vaccinate for were routine childhoodillnesses before. So I am not a
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hard yess on any at the currentmoment, and that might change, you
know. I'm still, like Isaid, of conducting my research, I
because so much of the brain developsbetween birth and three years old. I
think that I wouldn't even consider formy youngest. If there's one that I'm
like, yeah, this actually isbetter, I wouldn't even do it until
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three Interesting. That's first of all, that's like brave because we've been so
fear mongered into everything, So that'svery interesting. I'm more and more women
are having on the same train thatyou are on and I know with me
considering, you know, when Ihave a baby, it's kind of hard
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to decide, you know, likewhat do I or do I not?
That's why I that's why I definitelyrecommend looking to some of those resources that
I mentioned, and just even thosetwo alone, the Vaccine Conversation and a
Shot in the Dark. Between thetwo of them, they go through pretty
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much every illness, every shot.They give you the risks and benefits of
both, and it really allows youto make your own decision. So yeah,
I would say I'm a hard nofor right now, but I used
to be a hard yes on everything. So you know, we grow,
we learn more, and well,definitely, if you get pregnant again anytime
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soon, we'll go through them alltogether. Perfect. Yeah, and anybody
who's listening to this, don't beafraid to reach out to Chelsea Revey on
her social media accounts. We willplug those at the end. But you
said you were a diehard liberal,so let's get into that topic. I
know there's a lot of talk aboutlike OnlyFans it's huge, you know,
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but on the conservative side they're fightingit. So you were a diehard liberal
ex adult film star, So whatmade you do it? What made you
leave everything in between? And yeah, yeah, so I I don't.
So I never really followed politics fora long time. I was liberal,
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not because I voted that way,but because that's how I lived my life.
And so oh I was very prolike pro transgender everything, pro drag
shows, pro do whatever you want. And not that I'm anti be yourself
as an adult now, but Imean that was just one very very small
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piece of the pie. And asyou mentioned with my past, so what
happened was I was in a notvery good relationship when I got pregnant with
my first son, and we wereliving about two hours away from my home
or my family. And so Igot pregnant and I was nineteen, and
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I was terrified and we moved thatcloser to my parents, and there was
a lot of emotional, physical,verbal abuse in the relationship, and when
he was born that was kind ofand there was also, I mean,
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drug use, there were very therewere things that definitely influenced that. And
so when I got pregnant, Iwas like, Okay, I'm cleaning up
my life, I'm going home,I'm going to have this baby. I'm
going to make this work. Andhe ended up coming with me back home
and we got our own apartment andit was I think within the first three
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months of my son being born thatthere was one fight, one time that
he raised his hand to me onemore time and he didn't get the chance,
and it was in that moment wenever got back together. And I
will say we do have a greatco parenting relationship now, So I'm not
trying to drag or anything like that. He's grown a lot over the years.
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I've grown a lot over the years. Being young and on abstince ads
and just not being good human definitelyaffecting. But so I was a single
mom, and I was a singlemom of a three month old, and
at the time, I was workinga full time sales job. I was
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sales later of the month, Iwas killing it. I went back to
work after six weeks of having him, and so I was like, go,
go, go. And it's somethingthat hurt my soul because I would
wake up and take him to daycareand go to work all day, sometimes
have meetings after work, come homeand we had enough time for a bedtime
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story and a bath and then itwas bedtime again. So I can't relate
to everything you're saying. Yeah,and so I didn't get to raise my
baby, and it was something thatwas definitely a sore part of me,
a sore point of me. Sowhat happened was I was also at the
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time doing modeling and different things likethat, which I had been doing for
years. I started dance classes beforeI was two. I was the youngest
at the studio. So I've alwaysbeen a performer. I took acting classes,
I'd written songs, I've done youknow, the whole spectrum of performing
arts. And so I was modelingat the time, and then I was
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dancing at night when I could overthe weekend to make extra cash because I
had literally just I was like maybefive hundred dollars over the poverty line.
So I didn't qualify for food stamps. I didn't qualify I know that feeling,
Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, So I didn't qualify for anything
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at all, and so I wasdoing it all on my own at the
time. Wasn't getting Giles sport.I still don't, but I'm literally living
my story. I'm literally yeah,except I wasn't a dancer or anything,
but keep going. Yeah, yeah, So it was really anything that I
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could do to ensure that we hadour bills fade, and that is you
know, that was working. Andthen that was sometimes picking up the night
shift and saying good night, Ilove you, going to bed, and
then ansider taking over or taking themsomewhere, and that was rough. And
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if I wasn't twenty or twenty oneat the time, like I don't think
my body like today, my bodycould never ever, So what was that
moment of like I gotta stop,like I gotta stop, you know,
selling my body. I have tostop, like I have to just stop.
Well, first I'll explain really quick, and I saw and going fine,
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Well, what happened and how Igot into it is that I was
doing that. I was modeling,and then I was at a ring girl
competition for I don't know if youremember what was the name of the show
it was, I don't even remembernow, but there was a show and
it was about the ring girls forlike the Mayweather flight fights and stuff like
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that, like the MMA. Yeah. Yeah, So I was at an
audition for it and I ended upfinding out later that I actually made it
and I would have been one ofthem, but that wasn't until after I
a producer approached and was like,hey, have you ever thought about this?
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And at the time, I'm like, well, I'm, you know,
super open about you know who Iam. I love who I am.
I was so confident, and hepretty much sold me. I'm like,
you'll fly out to LA for oneweek and then the last the other
three weeks of the month. Younever have to leave, you never have
to leave your baby, you neverhave to go to work. You will
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make all the money you need toin one week and come home and that
can be your life. And atthe time, I'm like, okay,
sign me up. Like, ofcourse, leaving him was horrible. This
at this point, he was ayear and a half old. I was
twenty one, and it was hardto leave. But it was I think
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the really big point for me atthe time, or the reason that it
was so easy to get stucked intoit, was because I was missing what
I felt I needed as a mom, which was time with him, and
this was my way to do that. And so that's what I did.
Within a few weeks, I hoppedon the flight and I was out in
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LA and I went in very very, very blind. And that is something
that I think is a lot differentnow with like of and things like that,
is that girls have a little bitmore control. I know some are
still under agents and managers, andof course they would take any chance to
get girls on for that. ButI so I have I think, across
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all platforms. And this isn't evenconsidering DVDs or my appearances or my magazine
sales or anything like that. ButI have like thirty million views, and
that like was a decade ago,you know. Yeah, and then I
also did appearance that like the AvanAwards, and had my own booth at
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the Exotic Expo, and so itwas, you know, it was a
big deal at the time. Andwhat made me get out of it because
I was in it for a coupleof years, Well, I would say
several depends on what you include inthat were a couple of things. And
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the first thing I'll mention is kindof what I was just saying is that
I went in very, very blind, and so I didn't know that I
would never see a royalty. Ididn't know that I would never ever ever
get paid long term for the stuffthat I was doing. And so the
pay in comparison to the loss rightthe loss of the world seeing my body,
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the laws of knowing that this isout there forever and that my children
will inevitably find it, and myoldest did at one point completely not even
looking at that, but looking upone of my songs, which we can
even get into that story. Butfortunately I've read some pretty incredible kids.
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So and it was also so longago. But the main thing was,
it wasn't at the end of theday looking at those two factors. One,
it's not like I'm making a milliondollar empire, which a lot of
women are now on, not alot the top one percent are on of
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and nothing like that was around backthen when I was doing it. Yeah,
the cost was not worth the lossat all. And I knew that
if I didn't get out as soonas possible, that it was eventually going
to come back up. And soI see this little amazing boy growing and
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I'm like, okay, I've donemy time and it at that point I'm
like, okay, I'm going tostop right now, and then he'll never
find it and all will be well. And that was really it. It
was just looking at him and realizingwho I wanted him to be and who
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I wanted him to know. Hismom as Yeah, and I didn't realize
that it would blow up as quicklyas it did. Like by the time
I landed in Cleveland from LA,the first like mini clip was on one
of the free sights and within oneminute had one hundred thousand views. Within
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one day it had millions. AndI was getting messages from people that I
went to high school with and andit was just wild. But anyway,
you weren't getting you weren't getting anything. We were getting paid any of that
money. Oh my, that's no, that's wild to me. Yeah.
It was these like producing disgusting menwere like making money off of you.
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Oh they still are? That isdiscuss still are yep? I am so
sorry, Like that is I can'teven fathom it, you know, I
cannot even fathom it because, likeyou said, like I mean, girls
have more control, which actually Iwant to ask this question. You don't
have to answer if you don't wantto. But were you ever like harmed
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physically, like were you five menon in the industry or were they respectful?
Like how so? I will saythe one thing about the industry,
at least when I was in it, it was very very professional. I
think that we probably spent more timedoing paperwork than we did filming. Oh,
very very professional. Everybody gets tested. You have to see the other
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person's test, their idea, findit. You have to get tested every
two weeks on the two week mark, and you can't even be an hour
over or like a day over.It so physically harmed. No, however,
like I said, as far asgoing and blind, they are very
very good at manipulating. And Ididn't realize that I had any room,
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you know, to wiggle to meat a nineteen year old or I was
team when I got pregnant, twentywhen I had him, twenty one when
I started, and so to asingle mom who's literally freshly twenty like in
her twenties, hearing that I canmake ten grand in a week was like,
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yes, I'll do it, youknow, And so I didn't think
long term about it. And Ialso, like I said, when I
first went out, did not realizethat it would get as big as it
did. And I wasn't even init for that long, so I was
not physically armed. Not to saythat that does not happen to people.
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I was afterwards by someone who hadcompletely nothing to do with it, but
that was used against me. Itwas like, well, I know that
this is what you want because Isaw it. Oh my gosh. And
so there's obviously been tons of traumato work through, which is why I'm
able to talk about it today.And I think it's really important to shine
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a light on it because women needto know, like, if you're going
into this, don't just don't don'tgo in. That's what I was going
to say. Next, do youhave any advice for women that are considering
it, especially it's so easy foryoung single moms to fall into that quick
money, but you're paying for yourentire life. Yeah, go ahead,
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No, go ahead? What reason? No? Go ahead? Yeah?
Literally forever. And I was very, very fortunate to find a man who
I had my other two children with, who gives me a phenomenal life.
Like I said, I'm a stayat home, home schooling mom. He
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always considers my first his first becausehe taught him how to be a dad
before he had children of his own. So we have an amazing family,
and we have a beautiful home,and we have a beautiful life. And
so I recognize that my sitchuation isnot the norm when people get out,
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So yeah, I would say,my biggest advice would be to look long
term and what are you willing togive up in the future for the benefit
right now, Because the benefit rightnow might beem like everything, and it's
not. It's always going to bethere. And I was thoroughly convinced that
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it would never ever ever come upyears later, like, oh, I'll
be so long gone by then therewill be so many new people out no
one's going to find it, noone's going to care. It has not
stopped haunting me since, and sothat's when I really started to take like
my own power over it, like, Okay, if people are going to
always bring this up, well I'mgoing to share my story and I'm going
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to help people love it so sothat I would say that's really the biggest
thing. Is the decision that you'remaking right now going to benefit you in
the short term the long term neitheror both. And I can say the
most likely thing is that you willnot be beneficial in the long term,
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and that go ahead. Oh,I was just gonna say. That fits
both in with the lactation experiments,you know, young women and adults,
and so I can like we're totallystrangers. We've never met each other,
but we've followed each other I thinksince I was like sixteen. I think
I remember seeing yeah Facebook and Iwas like, she's so beautiful, But
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I know I'm probably just you andI love that, like we've always been
there but not there. Yeah,So I really like appreciate you coming on
with an open mind and having somuch insight on both subjects that our is
really relevant in today with both subjectso I think you have a lot to
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share and I hope I get tohelp with your journey in anything you need.
But let people know where they canfollow you, how they can contact
you, and thank you so muchfor coming on. I definitely want to
plan another show because I have somuch stuff to talk about with like motherhood
and stuff, and I love tohave a conversation and going back and forth
(40:23):
with like traumatic stories and ex boyfriendsand you know all that stuff. So
if that, if that's something you'reinterested, I will definitely email you.
Yeah, I would love to.I think we should definitely do a part
two because I like this whole timewe were just kind of talking about so
much and I didn't even get toshare like how I became conservative. Yeah,
yeah, got out that we're goingto have to do a part two,
(40:45):
and I mean this might be afive part series by so on Facebook,
which is my largest following right now, it's Chelsea Ravey Manion and the
spelling. I'm sure you're going topost it and link and then TikTok.
I'm just getting warmed up. I'mjust getting started, but definitely follow me
(41:08):
because I will be posting more.Yeah, all lowercase chelthy X mom,
and the X stands for multiplied liketime's fine. Need I need to change
it is what I need, ohdear. And then Instagram is just Chelse
(41:28):
revet I need to have like aI should probably just kind of combine all
of them. And then on YouTubeit's chealthy underscore mom. So those are
the ways you can find me,and they're all different. So hopefully you
caught all of every single name.I'll plug your name everywhere and I'll make
(41:51):
it more universal in the future.You got it, But thank you so
much for coming on. I reallyreally really appreciate it. Thank you for
It's been wonderful and I've been lookingforward to more conversation. Yes me too.
Thank you for joining this episode ofpillow Talk with Ali Michelle again.
I am your host, Ali Michelle. Please follow me at at Ali Underscore,
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Michelle on TikTok at Ali Underscore Michelletwelve on Instagram, and don't forget
to subscribe to the show. Sendit to your friends, send it to
your haters, send it to everybodythat you know. Thank you again,
Chelsea Revey for being on and wewill see you on the next one.
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