Ep. 2 - Gina (@_deepdivelife_ on Instagram) talks about homeschooling, Biden, the Chinese Spy Balloon and more

Gina, a conservative social media influencer, joins Alii to talk about the journey that led to her becoming a homeschool mom, her views on President Biden, the Chinese Spy Balloon and more.

Episode Transcript

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am your host, Alie Michelle.That's with two Eyes. Today we have
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have a very special guest. I'mabsolutely in love with her UM. She

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is a social media influencer slash militarywife UM. But most importantly, she
is a standing up for the rightsof her children, Anne who teaches her
children moral standard, traditional American values, and what it means to be the
American woman. Here's Gina aka DeepDive Life. How are you hi.

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I'm doing so good. How areyou good? Thank you again for being
on here, Thank you for askingme. I'm excited to talk with you.
I'm excited. Okay, okay,So let's just let everybody know who
you are. So I want totell everybody a little bit about yourself.
Well, I'm Gina I'm a navywife. I have three children that I

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homeschool. I've been homeschooling the lastthree years, and I decided about two
years into it that I couldn't justbe a silent mom anymore. So I
have an Instagram where I speak mymind so that if my children ever ask
me one day, I can tellthem I was not silent and they will
know that I set up for themfrom the get go. I love that.

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Um And that's that's happening a lotlately. I think I just interviewed
um Keisha King. She's also ahuge advocate for homeschooling and moms for Freedom
and all that kind of stuff.Um So we were just talking about your
position or you allowed to stay thathere or is that that you just accepted?

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Yes? Um So, just forop Seck, I probably won't tell
you the command that I am thatI have recently been asked to be the
umbudsman for my husband's command, andthat's a liaison between the families and the
command. So I will be takinga knee issues that the family's need that
you know, they want to beable to speak to the captain and kind

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of delivering those messages for him,or if anything happens, you know,
they have a family emergency, Itake it to the captain to let him
know, like if they're gone orsomething, and then the captain gives me
information that we can pass on tothe family. Is so when they have
movements and whatnot, they will knowlike when they're going to be gone,
when they're coming home. And yeah, that's a that's such like a huge

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job, you know, um andso important because you know, all these
women are waiting to hear from ourhouse. It's more their husband's hearing from
their wife and stuff. It's like, I mean, I think that's like
a huge job. So congratulations forthat. It's a little daunting, but
I'm actually very excited for it.I love to be a helper and so
that's just one of the things thatjust speaks to me is just to be

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a helper for others. So yeah, so let's get into like the homeschooling.
I know you and I have hadconversations and conversations about it, and
you've been like the main I'm gonnalike the main person to get me,
so like I'm ready, I'm ready. Good news is his dad did say
yes? So yeah, So we'regonna work on that, but I want

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you to explain, if you wantto. How did you get so what
was your final straw? Have theyalways been? Ah? No, you
said three years? So yeah,how did you what was that final point?
So COVID actually when my children werepushed to the distance learning so just
kind of rewinded a little bit.I had always wanted to homeschool, but

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there was just so many naysayers whowould just be like, oh, you
know, all the things that youhear, just you couldn't handle it.
You couldn't do that, You shouldn'tdo that, all of the you know,
things that other people are projecting ontoyou because those are actually their fears.
But when COVID shut everything down,we were in southern California at the
time, and I just was sittingthere with my daughter, who was in

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first grade at the time, andshe and I would literally be driven to
tears just all day every day fromthe moment we had to be on a
zoom and I had an infant atthe time, and you know, trying
to keep an infant quiet so thata first grader could sit on a zoom
all day was really hard. Andjust trying to figure out how to stay

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on their schedule at home with twokids, you know, balancing that in
school and then having the baby.It just became miserable and I just felt
like it really shouldn't be that way. There was no reason that school should
be bringing her an eye to tearsevery single day, and it just wasn't
doing anything for our relationship. Youknow, we didn't really we didn't want
to spend actual time together because wewere just like, oh, when we

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saw each other, we knew wehad to go get out that you know,
laptop and sit down and beyond azoom. And it was just miserable.
And I hated seeing her miserable becauseshe used to really be excited to
tell me about things that she learned, and then she was in tears and
didn't like it, and I didn'twant her to hate learning. So we

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finished up that year with disincarting anddecided that it was not for us and
we were not to ever go throughthat again. So I just started researching
over the summer and decided to tackwith it, like, let's just dive
in, and we did, andhonestly it was the best thing ever.
Yeah, she was she hated math, and she comes by it. Honestly,

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I try not to say certain thingsbecause I am not the greatest step
math, but I am learning withher, and I've learned that when you
find the right program for them,they seen them light up when they get
it is so amazing. And Ithink that's why most teachers probably went into
teaching, because when you just seetheir little minds just click and it makes

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sense and they love it. It'sjust it's amazing to see that. But
she is like, comes to meevery day, Now show me my man,
I got one hundred percent of mymath. I got one hundred percent
of my math. And that athing when we first like started either,
I mean even with her coming homefrom school, she'd be like, yeah,
I didn't do good at math,and I was just like, oh,
I'm sorry. But finding the programthat worked for her, because I

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think that's another thing that drove menuts with um public schools was they're all
learning the exact same thing, butthat doesn't mean they all learned the exact
same way, right, yes,And being what worked best for her was
so helpful because my son is sostudious and so smart, and he like,
is so good at math and myhusband and him are kind of nerdying

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that together and they can just domath like off the top of their head.
Just you tell them something and they'relike boom, boom, boom,
they got the answers. And whenmy daughter and are sit they're going,
how did you get that? Yeah, the baby able to Taylor, homeschooling
to each of them and just Imean we do some classes together, but
then I also have like what they'reinterested in, or I have them choose

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their sciences that we go through,and it's just it's I mean, it's
definitely not perfection. Don't think thatever, or it's not hard because we
have days or I'm just going,oh my goodness, but they they love
it. And the couple of timesthat my husband was like, well we
moved, do you want to puthim in school? Both of them no,
no, no, we don't wantto. So they like it.

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So it's like such it's such acomfortable, um successful environment for them,
and they recognize that, Yeah,let's get into like this, Oh go
ahead, No, no, Iwas just agreeing with you. Oh,
so like let's like get like stereotypical. So most like some people are like,
oh, you're kid, you know, like for me, there's been
people saying like, oh, youknow, he needs to be socialized,

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So how do you tackled with thembeing like, you know, in society.
Um So, I think that's actuallyfunny that people say that, because
forced association is not socialization. Andhow many times have you heard your kid
get told stop talking in class?We're not here socialized, done done,
like I tell you. Yeah.Yeah. But so my kids have been

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involved in sports, very involved inchurch. And another thing is they go
everywhere with me a lot of thetime. I mean, I do get
my time in, but they goto the grocery store and they know how
to pick items out, they knowhow to pay, they know how to
talk to everyone at the grocery store. And the other thing is we hang

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out with a lot of homeschool familiesas well. And the nice part about
that is they're hanging out with kidsof all ages, so they know how
to interact with little ones very well, and not just their siblings, but
they can also hang out with olderkids. And also they have my grandpa
that they hang out with, andit's really nice to see them able to
walk up to people at church whoare the older generations and they can hold

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a perfectly wonderful conversation with them,and they love to talk to them because
they know that they have good storiesbecause their papa has good stories, so
that they've learned that just being ableto chat with anybody is, you know,
possible, and I know that.You know, sometimes people think,
oh, homeschool kids are weird.Well, I guess it's weird when your

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kid can talk to anyone. They'renot afraid to order their food. I
was so afraid to order food whenI was a kid too. You could
not order food. I would belike whispering to my grandpa and have him
order for me. And they're justlike looking over their menu. They know
exactly what you know they want andthey tell them. And it's nice too

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when I can just send my sonand be like, can you run into
the grocery store. You know,he's thirteen, so I'm not too worried
about but like he knows exactly whatto do, and he can talk to
the people in mine and I canyou know the little ones asleep, I
just sit in the car with herand wait for him. But they are
so active and involved in social andthey have so much fun, so I

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think it's just so funny when peoplesay that, because it's not like just
because we're home schooled. We're inour four walls all the time. We
have we've had memberships to places everywherethat we've lived too. And I'm gonna
tell you what, the zoo orthe park during the middle of the day
is so much nicer when you don'thave fifty six thousand other people in there
that you're dealing with. Yes,oh yes, I love that. I

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think that like uses a lot ofpeople minds just gonna go that's like,
oh okay, well maybe people youknow like and like you said, it
stems a lot from the classroom whereit's like, can't talk, it's not
social hours. We were here tolearn. But then that like made me
think when you were saying that inpublic, okay, so now they're they're
proned or they're taught to not speakin public settings with a lot of people

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around you. So that could bewhere we you and I struggled with ordering
in public or talking to somebody inpublic because we were so taught. We
were taught in class like quiet butlet's listen, you know, and we
get we got nervous around our peers. Yeah, but with them, I
think you're teaching them confidence and thatis so amazing, Like, yeah,
everybody want to Oh they find abuddy too, Like they can find someone

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that they'll end up hanging out withor playing and they're never just like sitting
over because oh I don't know them, I don't know how to talk to
them. No, they they talkto people, They interact. I have
a great time. You know.We recently got plugged in our new church
and I was a little bit nervousfor my son because he's quieter like I
am. And every time he justcomes out with a big smile and as

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he say, yeah, I hadso much fun. I had so much
fun. If that was me athis age, I would literally not speak
to us until I know who youare and I'm comfortable, Like no way.
But like I just I do lovethat they do have a lot of
confidence. But I definitely didn't havethat when I was a kid. Yeah,
and I think I think that whatyou're doing is teaching them what we

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lacked, which is good. Youknow. Um They sometimes they say you
would grow up around you either becomeor you become opposite. So, um,
I think that's great. But weare going to go to break and
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your podcasts. Welcome back with PillowTalk with Alia Michelle. We have Gina
here aka Deep Guy Life. Sheis a mom who encourages fellow moms and
families to make a change and findtheir voice. So welcome back. So

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we were talking about homeschooling and yourrelationship with kids. So let's kind of
I want to kind of have Iwant to kind of know a little bit
more about you. So how didyou so you have a good following?
What is your number of following onInstagram? I think I just hit over
ninety five. Oh gosh, likeyes, So how did you become who

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you are? Like what kind oflike let's do this? Um. I
think it was just really deciding thatI didn't want to feel so alone in
my stance. Living in southern California. A lot of my friends were a

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little bit more um just I guessjust liberal and or liberal leaning. And
I mean I still love them andwe're all still good friends because I don't,
you know, I don't ditch anyonefor them having something different than they
believe in. But I also foundmyself not really speaking up about where I

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stood on a situation, and Iwould just end up like listening. Um.
And I've actually been pretty quiet mywhole life. Passionate, but quiet
until you know, I was eithercomfortable or knew what I wanted to say
in the moment. So I decidedwhen I made my Instagram that I didn't

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want to be quiet. I wantedto talk about the things that did matter
to me and that I felt stronglyabout. That way, I had other
people that I could talk to aswell. I know that a lot of
people that even I've talked to justmeeting them through Instagram, they just felt
really alone when the things started happening, and so like covid again, it's

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what kind of pushed me to makinga social media presence and looking for other
people to plug into and learn fromand be friends with. So there was
just so many things that weren't addingup, and then you know, some
people just didn't want to acknowledge it, and I was just like, well,

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no one like immediately around to mewants to talk about this. Let
let me find other people who do. And it just took off from there
and I've made so many like goodconnections. I mean just I mean I
found you. You cracked me up, and I love watching your reels,
and then I was so excited whenwe started talking. I know, it's
funny because I mean I kind ofhave a big following, but like,

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I still feel so honored and excitedwhen like accounts that I like that,
I'm like, oh my gosh,they're talking to me the same way.
Yeah. It's like it's so crazy, just some of the connections that have
come out of there, and it'sso nice to know that, like there
are so many people who do sharethe same beliefs for a lot of the

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core values that I have, Idon't, like I said I don't.
I don't need everybody to think andfeel and speak the same way that I
do. But like knowing that there'speople out there who just aren't falling in
line and lying with everything, becauseOkay, we all know, I don't
like the government. You don't likeThat's true, that's true. It's and

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it's hard because especially being like amilitary family, you know, everyone's like,
I mean, they have their opinionson that, but a lot of
us are still very patriotic, whetherthey can speak out against, you know,
certain things or not. We allhave conservative values and don't agree with
what's happening, and it kind ofjust stinks that they're stuck in contracts that

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they have to fill. But alot of people also went into this,
you know, I want I guessI'm going to speak just for my husband,
partially because I can't speak for himfully, but you know, he
grew up loving America and having likethe desire to protect it, and that's
I think what we all have.You know, we all want to instill

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these like values of being proud ofwhere we came from. But these people
are coming in and they're like screwingit up. So that's why yeah,
and thank your husband for me forhis service. We so totally appreciate it.
I've had a couple of military membersin my family, but thank you.
So. I don't know his name, mister Gina so, but yes,

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thank you, m So. Howdid you feel about that balloon?
You know? Honestly? So?I mean I put obviously put out like
a little real on it. Butfor all of it, the thing that
bothered me is the narrative. Obviously, you know it's a distraction. Everything's

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always distraction, But the fact thatthose are the words that you're putting out
that's so insightful, Like how canyou just put out, oh, it's
okay, what's happening. We're justit like okay, I know that they're
probably not telling us the full truth. But the fact that you're being like,
number one, China's doing this andit's okay, that part is where

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I'm just sitting there going so you'resaying that you're okay, if China actually
was spying on us in that way, you're not gonna do anything about it.
And whether you know it's the fulltruth or not what they're giving because
we all know that they don't.There it's always smoking mirrors. But that's
the narrative they put out. Andwhen there's so many people hearing that,

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they're hearing China's spying and it's okay, that to me is super telling in
and of itself, because why whywould you even want that as an official
narrative, right and you and youdidn't even like the fact that he did
not even condemn anything. So I'mkind of I'm kind of anxious for the

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state of the union and this oneI might watch just to see what he
has to say. I don't know, because I cringe every time he just
opens out like I can't out yeah. Um, But I'm just kind of
I'm curious to see what or willhe talk about it? Will he talk
about the real issues that is goingon? You know, Oh, well,

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gash business are up, you know, no, whatever that happens he
he wants to say. I hejust drives me bandanas. I think I
cannot. I so agree. Ican't. And it's interesting because you know
a lot of people think, oh, military families knows what's going on,
but you don't necessarily know. You'renot allowed to know. So I think

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that's another thing that people need tounderstand. These moms don't know what's going
on, all right, you don't. We definitely do not. And what
we do know is usually just like, oh, my husband has duty today
or he doesn't and that's yeah.So um, we're gonna get in one

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more conspiracy if you don't mind.What about that laptop? You think it's
gonna ever be true at this point? You know, it's kind of just
sitting there with that little black booklist in my Yeah, and I just
I hope I will hold my breath, but I have hope because you know,

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the truth does. The truth comesout one way or another. It's
point the truth comes out, andI just hope it sooner than later.
Yeah. Do you think do youthink Biden's gonna announce his like presidential campaign
like tonight? I I'm born onit because half the time I'm just like,

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I'm just waiting for him to likeresign so that yes, the other
one can be woman president. Ihope Harry Lake friends, I love her,
I love her. I hope shewents um good. Oh um.

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Yeah, I don't know. Ijust I feel like some of the time
they are pushing for him to bebousted for incompetence, but then just like
you're just going to continue the shradelike oh gosh, I just like I
have a I have a thing forthis is my this is my new signature
for him. Yeah, I don't. I just think it's honestly, like
coming back, like let's like stepaway from him being president, like as

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a wife or as a daughter likeanything. If I've seen my dad or
my husband or my grandpa even onlike declining like that publicly, like that's
cruel to you. That is likeelderly abuse. I am no, I
really is. I don't think thatman's innocence of anything. But at the

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same time, like yeah, youlike you see someone's brain declining and you're
just using them at that point.It's just like making appearances at the Grammy
Like what is that? Like whyI can't stand her me either? And
I just oh my gosh, Iliterally connect. So um, talk a

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little bit about your super pro life. So it's all so serious. So
um, what's what state is it? I think, well, California for
one. You so you don't livein California anymore? Right, No,
we got stationed elsewhere. Okay.Yeah, they what they are doing and
what they're pushing is scary and asa mom, as as a mom of

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free for you and a military mom, Like, do you have any advice
for like young women who are strugglingwith that? Um? Ill, But
yeah, babies are a blessing andmaybe it's not your blessing, but there's
so many options. Um, I'mactually, uh, my mom was a

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teen mom, very young. Shewas fifteen when she got pregnant with me.
I think about that. There there'sa really big probability that like she
not that we have a British relationship, but if there's one thing that she
gave me was life. Yeah,and um, if she hadn't, it
wouldn't have the beautiful children that Ihave today. And I just I think

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that people don't realize how much blessingthat children can be to you, because
there's a narrative of children being uma burden or a leech or a parasite
of some kind, and they justmagnify your life. And I think that
that's that's not celebrated enough. Justhow wonderful it is to have a child

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and just the love that children gaveyou, that is pure love, pure
absolute love, and you just you'venever experienced pure love until your little one
looks at you and just tells you'rethe most beautiful person that that you know,
I love you know. I waslaying with my son asked me to
come downstairs last night because he hadaffiliate but um, he's had he's had
a g issues at school. Anotherreason where he asked me. He actually

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asked about homeschooling last night. Iwas like, I'm working on it,
um, but you know, you'relaying there and my sons eleven and he,
you know, just laying there andI literally had this thought last night,
like I will never like this maybe the very last moment. He's
like, Mom, can you laywith me? So to like, you
know, kids are exhausting, ofcourse, but like little moments like that

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when they're just like, Mom,can you come, like lay with me
for a minute. That eleven,he's becoming a teenager, he's becoming a
young man. So to have thatmoment and to just I know, as
a teen mom, like I didn'tappreciate it enough as I think I should
have. And it's hard to saythat but because I was still growing.
I was seventeen, but I justwish I could go back in time and

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just hug everything, just every moment. I wish I could just have with
him more. But like you haveto under like people need to realize like
this could be your last moment,as like mother and son to just lay
with them until they're like too coolfor you. You know. Yeah,
my son is thirteen and he givesme dry by hugs and I take time

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because I meant he's you know,he doesn't want me to snuggle him the
way that the girls do because they'rereally younger. But like I still I
love. He's taller than me nowand he's still want to sticking me a
hug and I just love. Ilove that. So. Um, we're
about out of time, but Iwant everybody to know where to find you.

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Um, So if you want todrop your name, where they find
jack Um, it's Underscore Deep DiveLife Underscore on Instagram. All right,
Well you got it here. Youheard it from her. Um. I
thank you so much for coming onhere and taking the time to talk with
me and chatting it up. Well, thank you for in finding me.
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