April 21, 2023 • 15 mins
Alii talks about the struggle that women faced to get the Title IX protections for women's sports and how that is currently under attack by political extremists.
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(00:00):
Now this is the FCB Podcast Network. This is pillow Talk with Ellie Michelle
on the FCB Podcast Network. Welcomeback to an episode of pillow Talk with
(00:25):
Ellie Michelle. I am your host, Alie Michelle. I have a topic
today that I just cannot get past. I need to talk about it.
I need to go into depth.I need to explain the importance of it.
So with that, let's dive rightin. So as y'all are aware
that this whole like, let's lettransgenders compete in women's sports. Let's do
(00:49):
this, except you're feeling to realizethat it took us hundreds of years to
get to where we are today,and now we are continuing. The left,
the liberal, the crazy, thecrazy easy extremists are trying to make
it so a white male, youknow, the ones that they hate so
much to have rights in women's sports. Do you understand that logic? Because
(01:11):
I share the heck don't. I'mgoing to give you a little history lesson,
so you know when our grandparents,our grandmothers, our great grandmothers,
our aunts are everybody. The womensuffrage movement, you know that happened in
the late nineteenth and twentieth century resultedin the passage of the nineteenth in nineteen
twenty, the right to vote,okay, the emphasis on women's freedoms okay,
(01:34):
the first feminist movement in the modestgames for women in sports and to
compete. But these gains were ignoredbecause the Depression hit in nineteen thirties and
they would remain dormant four fifty years, y'all fifty years, and we continue
to fight for it. We continueto fight for our rights. We continued
(01:55):
and continued and continued. Ultimately itgot granted. So now we're going to
continue. We're gonna we're gonna gofall back. We're falling back in history.
We're not stepping forward, we're movingbackwards. Your logic is skewed,
the left, the liberal, theseweird extremists. Um ideologies are skewed.
(02:16):
And then came the depression. Youknow, that left millions of Americans out
of work, okay, And thenthat was resulting in women having to stay
home, to stay out of theworkforce because there wasn't much work. Okay,
So then we became homemakers, whichin my opinion, it's not a
bad thing. I think women shouldbe homeworkers and that's just my opinion.
(02:38):
However, the movement continued because theywere trying to establish that there were psychological
benefits to be gained from involvement insports. Okay, so they fought for
this, Okay, they evolved.They fought for this um until actually sense
(02:59):
of orties, until the eighties,and it was called Lucas and Smith.
Women were trying to say, youknow, if we can, if we
can work in the workforce, wecan compete in sports, we should be
able to do that. In whichthat's when they continue to fight for that
issue. With that, you know, came confidence self esteem, which ultimately
(03:20):
led into the women's equal rights movement. If they're logic, our logic,
our grandparents logic, our grandmother's,our great grandmother's logic was Okay, if
I can, if I can bea bad a at work, I can
be a bad a on the field, on the court, you know,
in the rink, anywhere, anywhere, and no man can tell me no,
(03:43):
no, white I should not haveto compete with a man's opinion to
play a sport that I am goodat and that I like. Do you
see where I'm getting yet? Iwill let y'all think on that during my
break. I will see you soon. These days, it seems like everybody's
talking, but no one is actuallylistening to the things they're saying. Critical
thinking isn't dead, but it's definitelylow on oxygen. Join me Kira Davis
(04:08):
on Jeff Listen to yourself every weekas we reason through issues big and small,
critique our own ideas, and learnto draw our talking points all the
way out to their logical conclusions.Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kira
Davis an FCB Radio podcasts on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever
you get your podcasts. Welcome backfrom the break. This is your host,
(04:33):
Alia Michelle. You are listening toPillow Talk with Alia Michelle on FCV
Radio, and we are continuing totalk about the civil rights movement, the
women's sports movement, and everything inbetween, which leads me into nineteen forty
three where the All American girls baseballglee started. But you know, since
the war, they said, youknow, we can't do this, We're
(04:54):
not going to do this, whichultimately ended that for women. How However,
soon after the war ended, that'swhen women were like, Okay,
we're done, We're doing this.So in the nineteen fifties and sixties,
the social conscious of America was changing. A lot. More people were getting
on the board for the push ofcivil rights, which accumulated in the passage
(05:17):
of the Civil Rights Act of nineteensixty four, okay, which helped increase
the status of women and my minorities. And this is when the activism started
to take off. And this iswhat we were fighting for. This is
what our grandparents were fighting for then, so we could have it. Now,
(05:41):
you guys are just it's being ridiculous, completely ridiculous. This oh equality,
okay, But our grandmothers and ourgreat grandmothers were fighting, even our
mothers at this point, we're fightingfor the right of equal competition. They
wanted to compete with other women,not go against a man. I mean
(06:03):
so, I'm sure maybe, butultimately women were told no for hundreds of
years, hundreds of this is thisisn't just oh oh they said no,
yes, no. They fought forhundreds of years and we're told no,
multiple hundreds of thousands of times.No, we're not gonna do this.
(06:24):
No, you're not gonna do this. No you deserved it, no you
no, no, no, nono, and then you're gonna turn around
and spit in the faces of ourof our of our mothers and grandmothers aunts
everything. You're gonna turn around andspit on it you are allowing. Do
you understand this? You the whiteliberals are the ones who are at fault
for this. The extreme people thatare like, oh oh, why don't
(06:46):
you see a woman competing in aman's sport, a transgender um woman who
went into a man into a man'ssport. I have yet to see one.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.And then along came Title nine after
I believe it was, Oh,I believe it has been. It was
twenty thirty years. I don't know, but Title nine, Title nine arose.
(07:11):
It was the concept that federal legislationhas to eliminate sexual discrimination and was
the main focus of women's groups inthe late nineteen sixties and early nineteen seventies.
At their first national conference in nineteensixty seven, the National Organized Organization
for Women the nw adopted the platformthat read, quote, the right of
women to be educated to their fullpotential equally with men by secured or be
(07:38):
secured by the federal and state legislation. This is a sports Journal dot Com
that said that, and then Bowlseight nineteen eighty nine, page six hundred
and forty three. The Title nineof the Education Amendments of nineteen seventy two
was paid little attention in the earlylegislation efforts to quotify these rights. So
(07:58):
again they were being told no,They're being ignored. They were being told
no, but they were being ignored, so it was being put on the
back burner. Courts ordered busing andother titles in the obvious Education Amendments took
the spotlight, Pale and pressed innineteen seventy eight. It was only after
Title nine was passed when the questionsurrounding implantation arose that opposition Entitled nine took
(08:24):
place gelb and Pali. Nineteen eightyseven. After the passages of Titled nine,
Congress built in a six year periodfor secondary and post secondary schools to
achieve compliance. The day of acompliance by the colleges and universities was nineteen
seventy eight. Interpretation of the enforcementwere visited or were vested by the Department
of Health and Education and Welfare Carpenterin nineteen ninety three. Even still,
(08:48):
even still, women had to fightvery hard for it, which the sports
journal dot org explains that more thansixty women in feminist groups formed a correlation
in nineteen twenty four called the EducationTax Force task Force, which would later
become the National Correlation for Women andGirls in Education. But then the NCAAA
(09:09):
became concerned by what it perceived tobe a potential weakening of its position as
a dominant, controlling body of athletes. And if Title nine was to apply
college sports at the levels of womenwere being elevated to the status of equal
to men, its financial assets andpolitical power were threatened. Okay, despite
(09:31):
all these hiccups and all of thesehurdles, women still fought. We still
fought for the right to have ourown division, our own separate sports,
because we can. We we're human, We're protected under the civil rights we
can. We are human. Wedeserve every opportunity. The Constitution stays equal
(09:52):
opportunity for all. Okay, Andit says the last paragraph of the sports
journal dot org, it can beseen that women's involvement in sports was a
slow develop or slow to develop.I'm sorry. Opportunities for participation and recognition
were almost non existent four centuries.Do you hear that centuries, not days,
(10:13):
not reached up minds, not evenyears, centuries, centuries. It
was not until that of the equalRights movement and a Title nine that women
truly found a place as participants inthe world of sports and in the public
arena. You all are literally spittingin the faces of these people, of
(10:33):
these women that fought, all thesewomen that did not give up. Do
you see that? Do you comprehendthat? Because quite frankly, I'm highly
concerned for your level of intelligence rightnow, and I'm being extremely brutally honest.
Now, I don't know if thisis just a joke or if it's
is a game that people want totry and play to have control. I
(10:56):
don't know. However, you arespitting on centuries of work, centuries of
work of women's rights, and youare letting white men take over yall's place.
Now. I don't care if there'sa separate division, if if if
there wants to be a transgender division, and if if you know, if
(11:18):
people want to compete in that,so freaking be it. But the ones
that have that have trained their wholelives for moments to become um an Olympic
athlete, and you're gonna allow aman who has that biological makeup to be
(11:39):
extremely stronger than them. The buildis different, the muscle makeup is different.
It is in the DNA, it'sin the bones, it is in
the muscle masses, and it's it'sembedded in men. I am not a
transphobic, and I don't care ifI'd be caught if I'm called that another
time, I do not care.I am not transphobic. I am not
(12:01):
anti trans. I am not antitrans. I am pro woman. I
am pro biological women. I ampro women's rights that our mothers and grandmothers
and great grandmothers have fought so goshdang hard for. And you are going
to allow these people to walk allover you. I'm mad. If you
(12:24):
can't tell by the sound of myvoice, I am angry. I competed
in sports in middle school and alittle bit of high school. I couldn't
even imagine running a track field,running a track, or playing volleyball with
a man who can spike, who'stowering over me a young man and spike
that ball in my face, orrun that track, run that track so
(12:50):
much more faster than I. Youare hurting our daughters, our future granddaughters
are future great granddaughters. By allowingthis to happen, open a separate division
or something, or or or signa consent form. Hey, this sport
will include you know, this sportis dedicated to the transgender community. Blah
(13:13):
blah blah. If you want tocompete, so be it something like that.
I'm not a lawmaker, I'm notthe piece of all. I don't
I'm not saying that. However,I am standing firm on my belief that
women our rights are slowly being strippedaway, in our our rights to play,
our rights for equality. Equality.You know that liberals want to scream
(13:37):
equality for all, Well what aboutthe women? What about us? What
about our biological women? Okay?And that is all I have for you.
Just I want you to think onthat. I want you to really
think on that. Just think aboutcenturies of work, centuries of women,
(14:01):
blood, sweat and tears, endlessnose, endless shutdowns, endless back burners.
Think about that. Think about thatthe next time, and think the
next time you want to scream abouta white man entering your life and your
business or your body, think aboutwhat you're saying. Just think about it,
and with that I'm going to lety'all go. Don't forget to subscribe
(14:22):
to my podcast. If you haven'talready, think y'all so much. Who
have subscribed, you are pushing meto the top one hundred, and I
can't be any more thankful. Youcan follow me at TikTok at Ali underscored
Michelle That's with two Eyes on Instagramat Ali underscore Michelle one two with two
Eyes. And you can subscribe tomy podcast, share with your friends,
family, loved ones, coworkers,whoever you'd like, your liberal friends.
(14:45):
Let's get them stirred up. Andwith that, I will see y'all next
week. This has been a presentationof the FCB podcast Network, where real
(15:07):
talk lifts. Visit us online atFCB podcasts dot com.
Now this is the FCB Podcast Network. This is pillow Talk with Ellie Michelle
on the FCB Podcast Network. Welcomeback to an episode of pillow Talk with
(00:25):
Ellie Michelle. I am your host, Alie Michelle. I have a topic
today that I just cannot get past. I need to talk about it.
I need to go into depth.I need to explain the importance of it.
So with that, let's dive rightin. So as y'all are aware
that this whole like, let's lettransgenders compete in women's sports. Let's do
(00:49):
this, except you're feeling to realizethat it took us hundreds of years to
get to where we are today,and now we are continuing. The left,
the liberal, the crazy, thecrazy easy extremists are trying to make
it so a white male, youknow, the ones that they hate so
much to have rights in women's sports. Do you understand that logic? Because
(01:11):
I share the heck don't. I'mgoing to give you a little history lesson,
so you know when our grandparents,our grandmothers, our great grandmothers,
our aunts are everybody. The womensuffrage movement, you know that happened in
the late nineteenth and twentieth century resultedin the passage of the nineteenth in nineteen
twenty, the right to vote,okay, the emphasis on women's freedoms okay,
(01:34):
the first feminist movement in the modestgames for women in sports and to
compete. But these gains were ignoredbecause the Depression hit in nineteen thirties and
they would remain dormant four fifty years, y'all fifty years, and we continue
to fight for it. We continueto fight for our rights. We continued
(01:55):
and continued and continued. Ultimately itgot granted. So now we're going to
continue. We're gonna we're gonna gofall back. We're falling back in history.
We're not stepping forward, we're movingbackwards. Your logic is skewed,
the left, the liberal, theseweird extremists. Um ideologies are skewed.
(02:16):
And then came the depression. Youknow, that left millions of Americans out
of work, okay, And thenthat was resulting in women having to stay
home, to stay out of theworkforce because there wasn't much work. Okay,
So then we became homemakers, whichin my opinion, it's not a
bad thing. I think women shouldbe homeworkers and that's just my opinion.
(02:38):
However, the movement continued because theywere trying to establish that there were psychological
benefits to be gained from involvement insports. Okay, so they fought for
this, Okay, they evolved.They fought for this um until actually sense
(02:59):
of orties, until the eighties,and it was called Lucas and Smith.
Women were trying to say, youknow, if we can, if we
can work in the workforce, wecan compete in sports, we should be
able to do that. In whichthat's when they continue to fight for that
issue. With that, you know, came confidence self esteem, which ultimately
(03:20):
led into the women's equal rights movement. If they're logic, our logic,
our grandparents logic, our grandmother's,our great grandmother's logic was Okay, if
I can, if I can bea bad a at work, I can
be a bad a on the field, on the court, you know,
in the rink, anywhere, anywhere, and no man can tell me no,
(03:43):
no, white I should not haveto compete with a man's opinion to
play a sport that I am goodat and that I like. Do you
see where I'm getting yet? Iwill let y'all think on that during my
break. I will see you soon. These days, it seems like everybody's
talking, but no one is actuallylistening to the things they're saying. Critical
thinking isn't dead, but it's definitelylow on oxygen. Join me Kira Davis
(04:08):
on Jeff Listen to yourself every weekas we reason through issues big and small,
critique our own ideas, and learnto draw our talking points all the
way out to their logical conclusions.Subscribe to Just Listen to Yourself with Kira
Davis an FCB Radio podcasts on Apple, on Spotify, iHeart, or wherever
you get your podcasts. Welcome backfrom the break. This is your host,
(04:33):
Alia Michelle. You are listening toPillow Talk with Alia Michelle on FCV
Radio, and we are continuing totalk about the civil rights movement, the
women's sports movement, and everything inbetween, which leads me into nineteen forty
three where the All American girls baseballglee started. But you know, since
the war, they said, youknow, we can't do this, We're
(04:54):
not going to do this, whichultimately ended that for women. How However,
soon after the war ended, that'swhen women were like, Okay,
we're done, We're doing this.So in the nineteen fifties and sixties,
the social conscious of America was changing. A lot. More people were getting
on the board for the push ofcivil rights, which accumulated in the passage
(05:17):
of the Civil Rights Act of nineteensixty four, okay, which helped increase
the status of women and my minorities. And this is when the activism started
to take off. And this iswhat we were fighting for. This is
what our grandparents were fighting for then, so we could have it. Now,
(05:41):
you guys are just it's being ridiculous, completely ridiculous. This oh equality,
okay, But our grandmothers and ourgreat grandmothers were fighting, even our
mothers at this point, we're fightingfor the right of equal competition. They
wanted to compete with other women,not go against a man. I mean
(06:03):
so, I'm sure maybe, butultimately women were told no for hundreds of
years, hundreds of this is thisisn't just oh oh they said no,
yes, no. They fought forhundreds of years and we're told no,
multiple hundreds of thousands of times.No, we're not gonna do this.
(06:24):
No, you're not gonna do this. No you deserved it, no you
no, no, no, nono, and then you're gonna turn around
and spit in the faces of ourof our of our mothers and grandmothers aunts
everything. You're gonna turn around andspit on it you are allowing. Do
you understand this? You the whiteliberals are the ones who are at fault
for this. The extreme people thatare like, oh oh, why don't
(06:46):
you see a woman competing in aman's sport, a transgender um woman who
went into a man into a man'ssport. I have yet to see one.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.And then along came Title nine after
I believe it was, Oh,I believe it has been. It was
twenty thirty years. I don't know, but Title nine, Title nine arose.
(07:11):
It was the concept that federal legislationhas to eliminate sexual discrimination and was
the main focus of women's groups inthe late nineteen sixties and early nineteen seventies.
At their first national conference in nineteensixty seven, the National Organized Organization
for Women the nw adopted the platformthat read, quote, the right of
women to be educated to their fullpotential equally with men by secured or be
(07:38):
secured by the federal and state legislation. This is a sports Journal dot Com
that said that, and then Bowlseight nineteen eighty nine, page six hundred
and forty three. The Title nineof the Education Amendments of nineteen seventy two
was paid little attention in the earlylegislation efforts to quotify these rights. So
(07:58):
again they were being told no,They're being ignored. They were being told
no, but they were being ignored, so it was being put on the
back burner. Courts ordered busing andother titles in the obvious Education Amendments took
the spotlight, Pale and pressed innineteen seventy eight. It was only after
Title nine was passed when the questionsurrounding implantation arose that opposition Entitled nine took
(08:24):
place gelb and Pali. Nineteen eightyseven. After the passages of Titled nine,
Congress built in a six year periodfor secondary and post secondary schools to
achieve compliance. The day of acompliance by the colleges and universities was nineteen
seventy eight. Interpretation of the enforcementwere visited or were vested by the Department
of Health and Education and Welfare Carpenterin nineteen ninety three. Even still,
(08:48):
even still, women had to fightvery hard for it, which the sports
journal dot org explains that more thansixty women in feminist groups formed a correlation
in nineteen twenty four called the EducationTax Force task Force, which would later
become the National Correlation for Women andGirls in Education. But then the NCAAA
(09:09):
became concerned by what it perceived tobe a potential weakening of its position as
a dominant, controlling body of athletes. And if Title nine was to apply
college sports at the levels of womenwere being elevated to the status of equal
to men, its financial assets andpolitical power were threatened. Okay, despite
(09:31):
all these hiccups and all of thesehurdles, women still fought. We still
fought for the right to have ourown division, our own separate sports,
because we can. We we're human, We're protected under the civil rights we
can. We are human. Wedeserve every opportunity. The Constitution stays equal
(09:52):
opportunity for all. Okay, Andit says the last paragraph of the sports
journal dot org, it can beseen that women's involvement in sports was a
slow develop or slow to develop.I'm sorry. Opportunities for participation and recognition
were almost non existent four centuries.Do you hear that centuries, not days,
(10:13):
not reached up minds, not evenyears, centuries, centuries. It
was not until that of the equalRights movement and a Title nine that women
truly found a place as participants inthe world of sports and in the public
arena. You all are literally spittingin the faces of these people, of
(10:33):
these women that fought, all thesewomen that did not give up. Do
you see that? Do you comprehendthat? Because quite frankly, I'm highly
concerned for your level of intelligence rightnow, and I'm being extremely brutally honest.
Now, I don't know if thisis just a joke or if it's
is a game that people want totry and play to have control. I
(10:56):
don't know. However, you arespitting on centuries of work, centuries of
work of women's rights, and youare letting white men take over yall's place.
Now. I don't care if there'sa separate division, if if if
there wants to be a transgender division, and if if you know, if
(11:18):
people want to compete in that,so freaking be it. But the ones
that have that have trained their wholelives for moments to become um an Olympic
athlete, and you're gonna allow aman who has that biological makeup to be
(11:39):
extremely stronger than them. The buildis different, the muscle makeup is different.
It is in the DNA, it'sin the bones, it is in
the muscle masses, and it's it'sembedded in men. I am not a
transphobic, and I don't care ifI'd be caught if I'm called that another
time, I do not care.I am not transphobic. I am not
(12:01):
anti trans. I am not antitrans. I am pro woman. I
am pro biological women. I ampro women's rights that our mothers and grandmothers
and great grandmothers have fought so goshdang hard for. And you are going
to allow these people to walk allover you. I'm mad. If you
(12:24):
can't tell by the sound of myvoice, I am angry. I competed
in sports in middle school and alittle bit of high school. I couldn't
even imagine running a track field,running a track, or playing volleyball with
a man who can spike, who'stowering over me a young man and spike
that ball in my face, orrun that track, run that track so
(12:50):
much more faster than I. Youare hurting our daughters, our future granddaughters
are future great granddaughters. By allowingthis to happen, open a separate division
or something, or or or signa consent form. Hey, this sport
will include you know, this sportis dedicated to the transgender community. Blah
(13:13):
blah blah. If you want tocompete, so be it something like that.
I'm not a lawmaker, I'm notthe piece of all. I don't
I'm not saying that. However,I am standing firm on my belief that
women our rights are slowly being strippedaway, in our our rights to play,
our rights for equality. Equality.You know that liberals want to scream
(13:37):
equality for all, Well what aboutthe women? What about us? What
about our biological women? Okay?And that is all I have for you.
Just I want you to think onthat. I want you to really
think on that. Just think aboutcenturies of work, centuries of women,
(14:01):
blood, sweat and tears, endlessnose, endless shutdowns, endless back burners.
Think about that. Think about thatthe next time, and think the
next time you want to scream abouta white man entering your life and your
business or your body, think aboutwhat you're saying. Just think about it,
and with that I'm going to lety'all go. Don't forget to subscribe
(14:22):
to my podcast. If you haven'talready, think y'all so much. Who
have subscribed, you are pushing meto the top one hundred, and I
can't be any more thankful. Youcan follow me at TikTok at Ali underscored
Michelle That's with two Eyes on Instagramat Ali underscore Michelle one two with two
Eyes. And you can subscribe tomy podcast, share with your friends,
family, loved ones, coworkers,whoever you'd like, your liberal friends.
(14:45):
Let's get them stirred up. Andwith that, I will see y'all next
week. This has been a presentationof the FCB podcast Network, where real
(15:07):
talk lifts. Visit us online atFCB podcasts dot com.
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