Colorado - Hiking the Mountains, Steven Dietz, and DCPA's New Play Summit! - Play to Z

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, welcome to play to Zee.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Please rise for this season's introduction song, Fight Through It.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Good, Hello, everybody, I'm gonna play. I'm your co host
Justin Barak.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm your co host Erica Koon.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
And today's episode is a Colorado color Oh wait, this
is another one.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Is it Colorado or Colorado?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Okay, So here's the thing. This is a state where
if you say it one hundred times.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's always gonna be different. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
It feels like you're like, actually, I've never heard.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
This word with Colorado Colorado.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know what I realized? You know how you do
the sounding out of the Wikipedia if you hover over
the phonetic spelling of it, yeah, it'll actually define what
it should be. Oh yeah, so like it had shua
and shwa is like a a sound.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh you're like doing like you did like research with that.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, sometimes I talk about like different like indigenous people
and stuff like that, and that's something where I'm like,
I'd rather say Colorado wrong than like the ute people.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Right. Yeah, sure, but.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
If you hover over the shwa, because then I was like,
is it Colorado Colorado?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
All of a sudden, I just couldn't remember how people talk.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's hard, but there's a shwa in it.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
So it's Callorado.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I like that. I like that. Some states make a
big deal, like Nevada and Nevada, or like Oregon and Oregon.
But Colorado, I've never heard of anyone be like it's Colorado, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Actually wait, I'm still right. Yeah, so like on the
Colorado Wikipedia, there's the little sound where it'll make the
sound yeah, like the audio but then yeah, it's got
phonetic spelling after it, and like the thing that looks
like a ka if you hover over it, then it
says kay as in kind, and then it says oh
as in body body, call Coorado, and the last one

(01:56):
is oh is in code? Oh ask me anymore with
the sim mean I've learned them twice. I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Leave her alone.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I'm alone, like graduated.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Right in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
But for real, if you're like scared of like phonetics
or anything like that, or you want to know, or
you're that person like me who like watches five YouTube
videos of a playwright like introducing themselves, Yeah, you can
hover over the phonetics sometimes. And I have a mac
and maybe that's a mac thing.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, speaking of introducing yourself. Yeah, shot, it wasn't a
good segue, but I just wanted to shout her out.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I just wanted to make sure you get it in.
Have you ever been to Colorado before?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
In the airport.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Laid over Yep, I just laid over there. Never been there, No,
I up until this.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Last year, I'd only been there like in the airport.
Oh really, yeah, I am oh wait, that's not true.
Oh my god. I've been to Colorado twice. What I
totally forgot. I did a show there.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
You did a show cold.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
It was when I was touring a one woman show.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I did a show in Paonia and Colorado. Yeah, I
was always just like near. It was like a regional tour.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
It wasn't, no, it was it's it was through a
nonprofit that was like promoting sustainable agriculture, like through the arts. Yeah.
And so there's a ton of agriculture in Colorado, and
so the area I was in had a bunch of
like orchards and like.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Livestock, hey, and hemp weed farms.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
No, for real, it was during that boom. It is
during the hemp boom. And like the show was amazing
and that the town was amazing and the people were amazing.
But my favorite thing is when like the lady who
was kind of in charge of me, like our contact there,
like gave me all of the law and tea about
like newfangled Hemp bros Versus like old school farmers. It
was like it was a fascinating we can talk about it,
but yeah, I have. I've been to Denver to see

(03:37):
a friend, and I've been to Paonia to perform.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I've been. I've been to Denver because a couple of
friends brought me out to see a show and I
got to see him. It was fun. Yeah, And while
I was there, I also saw another show that I
know friends in but it was I saw the Denver
Performing Arts production of Mackers and it was in the
round and it was in a cult. It was so sick.
They had like sigils on the ground and it was

(04:01):
except in a call and it was a really cool call.
It was like Scientology produced.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah I heard they do that.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, but no, no, I I saw Mackers at Denver
Performing Arts and it was it was awesome. It's like
one of my favorite, like Shakepeare shows I've ever like
performances of a Shakepeare show I've ever seen. Nice. Yeah,
so that's fun. But yeah, I'm trying to think. I
think that's the only time.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I also went to my first dispensary. When I was there,
I was in college. Wow, and I was scared.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
I'll run you through some of like the highlights of
the history of Colorado and like that pops up right
at the end.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh, yeah, for sure, as you should.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I don't know, I'm like a microhistory lesson feels like
an order for some of these dates. I think it's because, like,
as an American it's so vast that like we don't
feel like we need to know a lot about ourselves. Yeah,
but in the way that other people can drive to
another country, like we can drive to these different reasons
have different stuff going on, and.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, can I say something you
may because we're only at five and a half minutes
of banter, I thought of a question to bring up.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay, what's your question?

Speaker 1 (04:59):
After that? I am you might be if you want to. Yeah,
I'm going to Broadway Flea. You might come with me. Yeah,
what is something that what are a couple of things
I guess that you would like lose your mind if
you found that Broadway flea. If you don't know Broaday
Flee is, it's this big flea market over I'm pretty
sure it's in Times Square. I hope. I don't know
where it is, but I'm it's over there where like
a bunch of like theaters like put out a bunch

(05:22):
of stuff. There's also a ton of like old vintage
like Broadway props, posters, like like just cool stuff for
theater people. Yeah. So I'm trying to think of like
cool props or cool things that I'm like, Oh, if
I saw that, I would lose my.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Freaking So it's not going to be there, And I
know everyone's tired of hearing us talk about it.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
But the Hills of California runs from like the fifties
through the mid seventies. Yeah, and the character of Joan
as an adult has one of the best entrances of
all time into play. But she's entering into the seventies
is like the bad girl who went to California. Yeah,
and she wears this stunning coat and I'm a huge
jacket bitch. You would kill that from the middle y
for me, like your outerwears, Like how you know if

(06:00):
you're dressing. Oh yeah, we've just been suffering in New
York this summer, just like me and you both not dressing.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I'm not a fan of something.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I could get Jones coat.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
That'd be crazy, walks in in that would be crue.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's not going to be available because she's you know,
wearing it right now or whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Probably, honestly she's gonna put it on like three hours
or half hour call. But any like sick iconic jackets.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
That'd be super cool. Bat Cinderella jacket, Yeah, I'd wear it.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Never such you would wear How.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Much would you pay for the Bat Cinderella jacket?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Honestly, like forty dollars? That shows that shows not meaningful
to me. I'd probably pay up to four hundred dollars
for Jones.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
If I count you a question. If I paid for.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
The jacket Jone jackets, probably vintage.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
If I paid for the BT Cinderella jacket and I
bought it for you, but I said you have to
wear it once a week for the next six months,
would you would you be able to work that in
the EU SX months?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
What does that put us out to March?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, March it would be chilly enough once a week,
once a week at least.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I mean, yeah, I do a little bit digg around.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
If it was too hot, drop, I would drop two
grand on it.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
You wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
When I dropped four grand. Absolutely, just for that, I
dropped six.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I've never seen that c But my favorite thing is
to like riff as if I have, and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I love I love that you know two words of
every musical.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, no, actually I know most diffront Yeah you do.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I as.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I weirdly like it never left me.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
But you always sing just two to three words of
every musical you've latched on.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
I know a little bit about something and then.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Just like play that out and play that out. That's it.
That's all you know.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I went to w and I I went to one
football game because your dad took me. But my favorite
thing to say out of context is horns down.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Horns down, dude, I don't really get it, but there's
horns down.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Any any sick iconic jacket. I love a jacket, cool,
cool posters. Honestly, if anyone had like old sketch books
of different oh, that would be cool. I don't know.
I'm sentimental, so papery things.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I need like furniture.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, I think you said something you me and Liz
shut out. Liz, we're talking about the we're talking about this,
and you brought up a really good one, which is
the horse from the Glass Banagerie. Oh yeah, that would
be crazy. I would like that because I'm.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Trying to think of what shows have been on broader
then I'm very sentimental about it. Yeah, And it's hard
to find like a central object that like you'd actually
want your space, No, for sure, Like a part of
me is like, oh, like the frying pan or augusta
stage she hits the guy with. But then like you're
just cooking.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, but it'd be kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Then it's like, I don't know if I want that
frying pan.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
That'd be kind of thick though. If you got that
frying pan and you cooked eggs with it all the time,
like it was like your frying pan.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I just cooked with it.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, I just cook with that. Yeah, they kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
She cooks first.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, I think i'd want something from Like I'm trying
to think of all these shows that mean a lot
to me. Something from like The Nance is like one
of the first plays I ever saw on Broadways. Something
You're American Idiot is like the first like musical I
ever saw in Broadway. Yeah, I would love to see
or I would love to get something from the Minutes,
which is kind of made me want to be a
playwright after seeing Tracy lets Us The Minutes.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
It's a good question. There's like for me, like a
lot of my favorite shows have not gone to Broadway.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
They will, but there's I mean, like Broadway Flea is
not just Broadway, it's like off Broadway too, And it's
like there's like a lot of really cool stuff. There's
a lot of just like vintage theater booths, so there's
stuff that like just doesn't that isn't like it's not
just Broadway props. I don't think I've never been there
is gonna be a first time going. Yeah, but like
but yeah, so like I don't know, I feel like
it could be really really cool. I'm trying to think
of like random stuff that would like, like I would

(09:24):
love it's closing in a week or two you just
saw I would love to get that mask from job.
I feel like that would be like a very sick
like piece to have. That would be super super cool.
But yeah, yeah, I'm excited for Broadway Flea.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Also, good jackets in that show.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Great jackets, and that jackets for everybody, good jackets for all.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Good jacket.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I want a Mendel sweater. That's what I want.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
That good.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
But here's the thing. I don't want it to like frame.
I just want to wear it.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I wonder if people go there just to like get clothes.
I wonder. I've never been there. I'm excited to go.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, we'll find out.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, we will report back on h on whatever the
next so the next episode, on the next episode, and.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
You'll get what you got exactly, and you won't.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I'm trying to think of any other things that we
want to talk about, because I feel like we just recorded.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
You're right, Yeah, my beautiful, fancy mirror.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's awesome, it's so cool. But Eric, Eric is the largest,
thickest mirror. Whenever we record in her room, I sit
right in front of it, so afore I move, it's
so nervous.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, it's big.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, i'd get nervous. I don't want to knock it
over because here's the thing. I don't want to break
your mirror. I also think I might die. I felt
so happy.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Such New Yorker energy, because the thing about New York
as this. To my mom, She's like, how did you
get that in your apartment? It was like labor.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
It was labor labor. Oh wait, we should shout out Christian.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Christian for helping me move my mirror.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Shout out Christout Christian, Shout out Christian. He has no
idea in New York.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Like you mind your business and it rocks. And it's
a great way to like think about yourself less or
think about yourself more. And I look at it, but
everybody can rally behind a little going on. And when
I lugged it's a big mirror, you guys. It's taller
than me, and it's like solid wood.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
And it smells. It's why I bought it.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Also, I found a paycheck that I forgot about, so
the mirror only cost me thirty dollars because of math.
I walked it like two blocks, which is the only
reason I did it with a friend, and where typically
in New York, like you're minding your business in a rocks. Everybody.
Everyone had something to say about this mirror. From the
time I was still in the store and huffing and

(11:32):
puffing on my own. People were like, that's a really
nice mirror. People were yelling that, like me are so
big and it looks like a good quality, Like it
seems like I was like a live advertisement for like
home goods.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
That's kind of sick.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
It was straight up confusing. And then people started, like
you know, yelling out advice and like you know, technical
stuff that we could be doing. People were like, heckling Christian.
They were like, he should be the one walking backwards.
And I was like, well, you know, I just started
helping him. Carried it the first block, it under his breath.
He was like, he was like please just turn around
and I was like no, I was a marching band
like you weren't. I can do this, and he was
like just turn around, and so we turned around. Outside

(12:08):
of was like yeah yeah, and I was like thank you.
It was just so it's such an iconic moment for me.
That and becoming a regular at at I'm not gonna
say the name of it because I want to get dogs,
but one of my neighborhood pizza spots, Oh yeah, I
go in there now and people ask me what's good.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I'm like yeah, I mean man, But yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Don't don't break my mirror because it's so big. I
don't try to seven years of bad luck. I think
it'd be forty nine.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Here's the thing. I don't think i'll break the mirror.
I think the mirror will break all of our stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
The mirror would break you.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, I think it would hurt really bad.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's actually a home defense tool.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I think sitting in this spot is unsafe for me
if the mieror falls, not unsafe for the mirror of
the meer falls.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Also, now I can't stop looking at you in the
mirror versus you.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Also, here's the thing. I'm a soft boy. I'm like
not like a I'm not like a strong boy. And
I'm not like a skinny boy. I'm I'm a chubby
soft boy.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
You're soft and strong.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I'm soft. But I think my thing is like if
this fell, it would be the same thing as like
a science experience of like dropping a mirror on like
a blanket. Like I don't think the mirror would break
super hard, but I do think I would be crushed,
like I'm notavy. The more I think about it, the
less I'm worried about your mirror. The more I'm worried
about my stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
And me honestly, like, I'm kind of shocked this hasn't
been an issue before because you know how actors are
like kind of insufferable, and I say that as an actor,
like you can't you can't rehearse in a room with
a mirror, Like how many times are your universal space
does It's like a mirror because the dancers or whatever
you have to orient the space that the actors cannot see.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Themselves because I just look at you when you were records,
so I haven't thought about it. I'm looking at the
back of you, I know, and now I'm I'm not
looking at me. I'm just stop looking at it. I
can't stop.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
But inter's the thing. We've done this for several episodes
already in this space.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's become a prop. It's now it's gonna be a
I don't want to look at you.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I'm looking at at you.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
You have a nice you have a nice desk.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, dude. I've been acquiring furniture so slowly, it's like
six weeks.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Every like three weeks. I buy some of the crappiest
furniture the internet can offer. Me. Yeah, I assemble it.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
That's smart.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
It's harrowing huge, because there's no space left in my
room with the furniture'm acquiring. I persevere. Yes, I'm able
to store a few more things.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Nice, that's New York.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well, while I consider being crushed to death by your
mirror and you consider acquiring more furniture, shall we shift
to Colorado? Colorado? Colorado, color Colorado, Colorado. Deer Deer, Colorado,

(14:31):
Deer from the Flag? Is that? Is that the truth?
That's a throw back to the last week, the throw
back to like three weeks ago. Oh yeah, we're recorded
the Plato and the one hundredth episode has come out. Yeah,
we are recording the one hundred episode after this one.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
We're banking episodes.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
So just so if it was like a big deal
or good or something, we're not reacting to it. Know
that we haven't recorded.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
It yet, but we're sure it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
We're sure it was really good.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
We know it was really really good.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
We know it was really good, and we know that.
I just I just hope that the one hundredth episode
has a very clear callback and then everyone's waiting for
us to do it. We don't because we don't know
it yet. We don't know yet, or like one.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Hundredth episode never comes out because Justin does get taken
out by the mirror and it's me like, hey, guys, he.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Hasn't woken up yet Justin's dad. But Colorado will come
out next week.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Guys, he'd want me to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
I'm going to learn how to audio edit and we're
gonna figure this out.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
He's gonna figure it out. Are you going to tell
you about it?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I can't believe I went to Colorado twice and I forgot.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
That is crazy. That's wild.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Aren't there conspiracy theories about the Colorado Airport?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah? It's like, wait, has that big horse the Denver airport?

Speaker 3 (15:39):
You know the horse that killed a guy?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
No, this is real.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
This is honestly, this would have been a banger fact
for you. But I know it. There's outside right, I'm like,
am I making this up? No? My buddy drove me
back to the airport.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, four in the morning. Nice, horrible, we.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Love it outside of the Denver Airport. I'm sorry, I
don't know more details. Is actually wasn't in my research.
Just the thing I heard about. Yeah, there is a
like a giant statue of a horse like on its
back legs, like you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, wait, one more time, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I
know you know what. I know that one one more time?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, had an end?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Okay, cool, I just read another.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Bit I did. We keep talking about Matt Fry.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Shout on Matt Fry where he.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Got frustrated in like a tech rehearsal or something where
I treat him like a horse, And so do you
remember that in general? Like if any man got like
frustrated in front of me, I'd say, whoa girl, steady
easy now, and I'd like pretend to feed him like
an apple or a car. And it's just like it's
just a silly enough bit that it does defuse the tension.
So we should all be treating men like horses. Anyway.
This horse is like big, like I don't understand spatial awareness,

(16:39):
so potentially two stories. It's gigantic. Yeah, it's really big,
red glowing eyes.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Glowing yeah, whoa, it's important.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
The guy who was sculpting it or who created the
original artist, it killed him, fell and it killed him
and what and they still just put it up and
I don't know the meaning behind most of this. I
just know it's like one of the most threatening airports
you can roll up to.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Oh my god, well the Denver Airport. The Denver Airport
is like there's rumors that like the Illuminati funded it,
and there's like secret passageways underneath them and stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I don't know about all of that. I will say
that horse is not doing those rumors any favors because
the horse is ominous.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Catshi a question, Yeah, before we get into the episode,
if you got if you could put a secret base
underneath a large establishment, what would it be. Where would
it be.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Like a secret base like for my own like evil intentions,
or just like just a secret.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Hideout, just a secret hideout. And and it was under
a very like large, very populated thing.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Honestly, the first thing we came to mind is all America.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
All America. The first thing I thought too, was the
first thing I thought too.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I was like, I was like, if we built Theniverse, if.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
We built the Koract Theater, but we were, but but
the rule we got like a big grant. But the
rule was you can have all this money, but no
one can see it.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Okay, here's how I do it only speaks the theater.
It's in the bottom of the All America, in the heart.
And to get into the theater you got to ride
the roller coaster. That's how you get in and out.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
No, we would never make money. The old people would
never do it.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
We're not trying to get.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Those are ticket holders.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Ticket holders everywhere else.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
We're edgy. Could we buried underneath the heart of all
of America?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Could we also? Wait?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
You know the mirror mais you can get in there too,
I have Can.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I have one more entrance for us? Yeah? Can we
add a big sculpture of the rug rats? And if
you get into Dill's mouth? Can there be a little
like elevator slide down?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Well, is it an elevator or slide you can pick?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, you hit a buy one, says slide on elevator.
Thing though we swap it stage.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Store mirror mace because its established actors of mirrors.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, primary entrance and exit, handicapped accessible entrance to Bill's mouth.
Something for everyone.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Something for everyone. Everyone's like, why did these old people
keep going into Dill's Mouth?

Speaker 3 (18:57):
But I don't know when or where?

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Why we did a rug. That's great.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
You know we did talk about how the correct theater
would triangulate.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Oh yeah, the all and something else. Yeah, but yeah,
I think that would be very, very.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Fun to We should start this conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Build something under there's a theater.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Underneath them all of America. I don't you can get
into it.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Through Dill's mouth, Dyl's mouth.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I don't like Dyl's mouth.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
It's through Dill's mouth.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Is the accessible sounds like the name of a canyon.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Dill's mouth sounds like the like the name of the
bad about in Colorado? It sounds like the name of
a bad punk band. Yeah, what's upwards Dyl's mouth.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Or Dyl's mouth. We're all named Dylan. It wasn't on purpose.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, here we are. Let's go, let's go, let's go and.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Get in the eye.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
You're actually in the mosh pit.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Do you want to hear about Colorado though? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
But I now I'm really excited about talking about the
correct theater hitting the up.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I know we did know what if on our next
Plato it's it's set in the world where you gotta
go down the roller coasters?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
What if every playof from here on out is you
have the down the roller coaster.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
So so the scenario starts in your own roller coaster.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah. Here's the thing, though, they're gonna hear the creation
of this after they hear the first Plato of the season,
because we're recording the Plato that's coming out before Colorado shadowing.
When you when you hear this, when you hear this,
you're also gonna hear the bit before this, but you're
not gonna hear the bit as intensely. You're just gonna
hear it very like put together pree ample to the bit,
the preamble to the bit, the post amble to the bay.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
People who listen to order, well, your lucky day.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Finally your lucky day.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
You get it? All right? Do you want to hear
about some Colorida theater?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I've been waiting?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Okay, cool? So Colorado is like a really really popular state.
You feel like I feel like, I know, like topically
thinks about it, about it's like natural splendor, about some
of like the politics of what's going on there. But
honest to God, and I don't know you're feeling on this.
I feel like seventy five percent of people in the
Midwest where I grew up when they're like making a
big move. They're moving to Denver. I truly think that,

(20:55):
like whatever Denver did around the legalization, like rebrand. Yeah,
I spent time there. It's like it's like just the
end all be all, Heaven's Gate for like millennials. Yeah, yeah,
like there's so many food course, it's.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
For sure become that.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
And I talked to one of my buddies about it,
who lives there, and he's like, it's because they actually
keep up with affordable housing. So the reason he believes
that people keep continuing to move there, besides like having
their you know, personality be like loving to hike or whatever, smoking, whatever,
is because the city's like, oh, people want to move here,
Like let's continue to make apartments that don't cost an
individual more than two grand a month. Yeah, like a
good place, which is interesting. I don't know all the

(21:33):
details on it, but I just know that, like, people
moving to Denver is a huge phenomenon in the Midwest. Yeah,
a lot of people have to leave the Midwest for
work or whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
People when COVID hit, when there's a mass exodus of
like comedians in Chicago, a lot of people went to Denver.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
A lot of people go to Denver. Yeah, I don't
know what it is. Have you ever heard the call
of Denver?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I know. I will say though, there was a part
of me that went to Denver that one time, and
I was like, this is pretty sweet. And I was
like still in college and I was like, oh, like
this is like very cool, Like I could totally get
behind this.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, it is love Denver.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, okay, so it was cool.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
I'll run you by just like a bit of the history.
So it's just kind of interesting and also like conflicting
stuff that's going on there. So yeah, again, Colorado, it's
in It's in the kind of mountainous area of the
United States. Rights You've got like the rock Rockies, You've
got all sorts of stuff going on over there. When
I think of.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
It in my head, trail, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
I imagine it being farther west than it is, but
it's it's not not. I read on Wikipedias and people
are like, yeah, it's kind of the Midwest. It's kind
of this, and I'm like, no way. Because Justin's from Ohio,
he thinks he's in the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I don't think I'm in the Midwest. I am told
I'm in the Midwest.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
What time zone are you in?

Speaker 1 (22:42):
I'm in the mid time zone.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
No, I'm in Central time zone where I grew up.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
What time zone are you in Middle? No?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
I think this is called Eastern.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
No, I'm in Middle time.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
So let's think about that.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Now you're in Central I'm in Middle times.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
All this to say, like it is the identity of
the US, Like who thinks they're in the Midwest? Who
thinks they're in the South? Like I think that that
Colorado is one of those states? Really? Wait?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, yeah, okay, well would you where would you say?
Ohio is We're not on the East coast.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
It's where the Midwest starts to become the East.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Coast to me, so what But you can't just say I'm.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
The East coast but eastern United States?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
So are we just Eastern United States?

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I don't know. I think there's not a word for you.
I just I feel like you're not What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
There's not what do you mean? There's not a word
for me? I get a word too.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Here's what I think. I just don't think that Colorado,
me and then you is all one thing.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Okay, But then I want something. Let's think of what
Ohio is right now.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Ohio.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
No, that's not fair.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Ohio is confusing because sometimes it looks like you're in Iowa,
but then there's a big lake. But then there's.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
How's the best how's the best date in the country.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I will say, when I've driven through Ohio a bajillion
times these last several years, I didn't mind driving through Ohio.
It's beautiful, it's cheaper, it's a better drive than Indiana
and cheaper gas in Illinois.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
It's beautiful. That's what you do, right, here's the thing.
It's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Parents over there, and they're really nice to me.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Is very nice to me. Wow, shout out Tracing and Joe,
you're never going to out. They've never listened to the podcast.
We've never seen a play. Yeah, I love them a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Okay, So Colorado right.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
So it's mid tically Midwest.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
It's like it's considered part of the Midwestern United States,
but it's also like definitely because it gets rocky.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Oh I have a question Western United States. Yeah, will
you call Ohio or would you call Colorado more Midwest?

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, I'd call Colorado more Midwest because it's west of
the middle and you're east of the middle.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Can I say something that actually pissed me off? Like that,
like fully made me take it?

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Do you want to take a break and look at
ourselves in the mirror? We could both fit in it.
That's how it is.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I don't think. I don't think I want to. I
don't think I want to do the podcast anymore.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
That's Colorado's not anyways color I don't think so either, Texas.
Let me show it to you on the map, actually,
because in my.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Head I have right here, you have it.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I did maps to the United States like all the
time as a kid. It's way more middle than I
imagine in my head. Colorado's like, all right, it's way
over there by like California and Nevada.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
And it is I think in my head it's one
of those four corner.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
States, but it's an inside corner. In my head, I'm like, oh,
it's like.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
It's a rock outside right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
No, I don't know why. But like, you're, dude, where's Ohio.
You're way over there.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
We're in the same place.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
No, you're not. I'm in the trim middle between Iowa.
There's a state in between, right, Illinois, between state in between.
You guys are both equidistance away from me. But that's west,
you're east.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Okay, I don't want to fight here. I'm curious. I
know you're sorry, actually, but it is. It is more
middle than I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Again, like if you're one of our rare random international listeners.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Like I thank you. That's so crazy.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
But like these, like these are the nuances of like
this land mass. It's so it's so screeching, yeah, egle
screeching big okay, cool. So Colorado allegedly means like red ruddy.
It's nicknamed that off the Colorado River. Yeah, And it
became a state like in the later eighteen hundred, so
it's like a centennial state because it was like one

(25:58):
hundred years after.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
America became for me, teen eighty nine, I think.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
No, yeah, eighteen seventy six would be one hundred years
after seventeen.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Seventy s sorry, eighteen seventy six.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
The ocean blue, Oh no, that's right, the ocean blue.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
It is so funny, the ocean blue, the ocean blue, ocean.
You weren't here, You guys aren't here. You can't see it.
But she did a hand thing she did The Ocean Blue.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
So anyway, here's what I want to start with, because
if here's the thing, I could do a deep dive
on the lore of Colorado because it's spicy. A lot
has gone down there. Take you said the highlights and
know that there's like media for all of this.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Are you still laughing about but the Ocean Blue? Oh
my god, I don't know why that movie laughs.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Some things I do casually break. I did this bit,
I did this elbow bit with you. Now. Yeah, it's like,
I don't know whatever, It's not gonna play on the podcast,
but yeah, I'm full of.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Here's the thing. I don't think Ocean Blue will play
on the podcast to play for me, And that's what
matters most. One stone history.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
The way we learn history in this country is so wreck.
It's so badshon blow. That's like said, that is like
an inside joke.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, anyway, with every American.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
So Colorado becomes a state before that. Obviously in America,
it goes through a lot of hands and it also
goes through a lot of history. Right, So if we
if we start way back when like the youth people
have been indigenous to parts of Colorado for like thousands
and thousands of years right now there's only like two
reservations there left, right, And throughout the history, there's been

(27:31):
tons of conflict with like Native people, gold miners people,
United States, right, all sorts of different kind of conflict.
But there's also been like other conflict that I think
that in my head when I think of like westward expansion,
I have an assumption of that violence, ye, assumption of
that colonialism. Right. There's also like several waves of taking

(27:54):
over an opportunity that happened before Colorado becomes a state. Right,
so California and call Loretto. There's the gold rush. People
are out there, they're trying to find gold, right, you've
got gold miners. During the Civil War, the Confederacy was
like we're gonna take Santa Fe. We want that, And
there was like actually conflict between and Colorado. No, Santa

(28:15):
Fe is South Mexican. Yeah, yeah, okay, so the Confederacy,
who's moving south. They're like, we kind of want Santa Fe.
This is like vastly simplified, right, Yeah, it was gold
miners versus racists. The gold miners were kind of like no,
because you're getting kind of close all our stuff. The
gold miners like squared up to the Confederacy, and the

(28:37):
Confederacy was like, Okay, we're never gonna come over there,
and we're never trying to take Santa Fe. A part
of history that happened that I've never heard of. I've
never heard of.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
So gold happens, massacres, violence.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
A little, a little casual square up, casual.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Square up of people like I want that gold, like.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Jazz.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
And it's not that I think the gold miners like
weren't low key like also like well white supremacy. It's
just that they were like not in our town, not
around here, partner.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
We got gold, we got to do stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
So we have golden It's like a gold's come drawing up.
What happens next? Uh oh you found silver?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh shoot, oh there's silver. The silver shuffles.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
So what happens when you find silver? You just place
more indigenous people. You're right, that's your silver, violence, conflict, horrible.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
After silver's found.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
What's a big thing that happens in Colorado? After this
coal mining? Coal? Now, the nature and the history of
coal mining in Colorado is deep. When I was in Paonia,
you can still see the playout of that, like economically
and population wise. So Paonia, where I went and performed
this show, used to be a former coal mining town. Yeah,
and when the mining industry was no longer existing, there

(29:44):
was still some agriculture. But do you know who moved in?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Who?

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Silicon Valley tech people working remote. Yep. So I roll
into town. And here's the thing. When you roll into
a town of this size. Paoni is very small, like
ninety minutes outside Aspen.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I had to fly into an airport that was the
size of a cinnabon. Yeah, and it was and it
was awesome.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I really enjoyed it everywhere I went this town because
like I'm booping and boppin, I'm in, Like, honestly, I
was in the scariest Airbnb of my entire life.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Really.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I rolled up to this airbnb with the two women
who are like in charge of me, and the first
no one said anything, it's pitch black because it's a
former mining town.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, just stars.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
The first thing they say is we should all sweep
the house together before we leave you here.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Not because it was like a sketchy area, just because
like it's an old mining town. Yeah, I was in
the one airbnb of an old mining town. Anyway, I'm
booping and boppin. I'm trying the bakery. I'm going to
local arts collectives. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna patronize little
town that like brought me here to do a play. Yeah,
everyone knows that I am not from there, and they can.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Tell because they all know each other.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yes, because it's so small. And so I go into
this little like coffee shop and I'm just kind of
like manding my business in the corner and there's women
at this table talking next to me. And finally this
woman goes, so we know that you're not from here,
like what are you doing here? Like who are you? Which,
like if it had not been a woman, I'd be
like I'm so scared. But it was really really nice
when they looked like for and I was like, oh,
do you know that there's like a play going on

(31:02):
in the old old movie theater. They're like yeah. I
was like, I'm the actor that came in to do that.
And they're like, oh my gosh, everyone's going to that.
It's it's the thing that's happening this week. I'm like, yeah,
that's me, and I'm like, what do you do? And
this Woe's like, oh, you know, I'm trying to figure
out like how to farm indoors without water or light.
And I'm like that that's so interesting, and she's like, oh,
you know, but my husband works for Apple and this

(31:23):
was like twenty nineteen. Yeah, I probably shouldn't say this actually,
but he was working on technology like remote that was
like far far ahead of those years. And essentially she
explained to me that, like, this town is like a
cost effective place to live, and so there was kind
of a culture in the town of people being like, oh,
you know, I was part of a lineage of miners,

(31:43):
people who have been like working the land, and then
there's these tech people coming in and like they need
to be there to kind of supplement like community, but
they're kind of outsiders, but they're also like working in AGAs.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
But they're also like using the space because it's cheaper. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
There's also a huge conflict going on within the agriculture
of Colorado at the time because we been legalized, and
so a bunch of hemp bros were like, Oh, we're
going to sweep up this cheap land. We're going to
farm here only hempbros don't care about like farming sustainably,
not polluting the area for other farmers, right, Yeah, And
so there would be like scuffles in town where you

(32:16):
could tell that, like people didn't like each other. And
it's because there were two very different types of people
viewing and treating the land very differently. And it was
also so new and so early this is in twenty nineteen,
that there wasn't like a lot of like regulating and
stuff like that. Yea fascinating Laura in this town again,
like at the end of the day, like an amazing town.
So cool. Yeah, the coolest people there. But yeah, I
was like the history I have think, baby, people don't

(32:38):
understand like why I get into like the history of
these places. But I think it's because like it stays there. Yeah,
those those sentiments get passed down with Brandon Jacob Jenkins
writes about his grandparent's experience Anyway.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
My neighbors.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
There is so much lore when it comes to mining
in Colorado because of disasters where lots of people died
because of conflict, where companies and workers and you are
otherwise are square like people are dying, right, So so
much history there that again, I can't deep dive all
the way into but eventually history kind of continues, right still,

(33:13):
agriculture going on, the KKK becomes very involved in Colorado politics,
and like the nineteen twenties, yeah, that was an issue.
But then on the other side of that, in like
the forties through seventies, you had a bunch of like
civil rights and social movements like the Chicano movements and
stuff like that. Besides white people, there's like a very
high amount of Latin X folks in Colorado because of
its proximity to the southwest, right, midwest, Southwest. Yeah, that's

(33:35):
what you got going on. In nineteen sixty seven, again,
flip side more liberal policies. Colorado is one of the
first states to loosen restrictions on abortion for like rape, incest,
threats to the health of the mother, which is a
very relevant topic right now, right, And in general, Colorado
has this really really like good out of all the
fifty states statistically good like health and life expectancy, and

(33:57):
a lot of people kind of hypothesize like it's because
we're all hanging out outside. Like if you moved to Colorado,
like you're someone who likes to go do stuff, do
you know what I mean? So, I think that's very
interesting because of the location. There's tons of like Western
shot in Colorado. So if you saw True Grit that
shot in Colorado, Butch Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid
all that stuff, Dumb and Dummer and parts of the

(34:17):
Shining were there apparently, which I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
If that kind of makes sense of course for the shining.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Which we have to address in South Park or in Colorado.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
South said South Park. I literally was gonna say, this
make me want to watch from there?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, yeah, which I didn't realize.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
You know that they owned Casta, now right, I didn't
know that. You didn't know that dide ready fun fact
when COVID hit CASA shut down and they they so
a documentary actually just released it showing at the Alamo
here in New York about Trey and Trey and Matt,
Trey and Matt.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Right, I don't know which one is Stone in Parker.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Trey, Parker, Mattstone. That's it, okay, but on Stone but
one Stone. But Trey, Trey and Matt bought it and
they were like, we're gonna put like seven million dollars
and end U putting forty they put ended up putting
forty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
There's a documentary all about it. But dude, it is
like they and Trey the person the one from Colorado,
trays On one from Colorado, right, tray Trace from Colorado.
Apparently like he was like, I'm not trying to make
it this high tech cool thing. I'm trying to make
it the exact thing I went to when I was
a kid. Yeah, plus some South Park stuff, and that's

(35:22):
what it is.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
It's kind of beautiful.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, it's very cool. But one of my coworkers, Steph
went there, and one of my other coworkers, and you
might know him from the From the Scene podcast, kJ,
is like obsessed with it. Yeah, and yeah it was
just like kJ just when I saw the documentary said
it was awesome, and yeah, it seems it seems really
really cool.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
This is a later tab, but I'm going to hit
it now because we're talking about it. But some random
kind of like famous actors from Colorado. Trey Parker which
we talked about, Don Cheadle, whoa Sophia Rob John Heater which.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Or hater Heater heater from Napoleon.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, Kristin Davis, which I didn't recognize her name, but
that's Charlotte. That's Charlotte from Sex and the City.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Shoot, uh huh.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
David Fincher, who are some. Amy Adams is one of
my favorite actors. And then Christian Shaw I think that's
I love Christians from Colorado, which I didn't realize.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Bobs Burger's own.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I know Bob's Burger's owns Christian shop.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
It's become my new favorite.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
I watch It's too comfort show.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
You gotta have one. So flipping back, Colorado has some
good things going on right in terms of actors. A
lot of those are film actors. They have like the
Aspen Short Fest, Boulder International.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Film they have sun Dances. Then Denver is it.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I don't think sun dances, No oh, all over the place,
Hockey Mountain Women's Film Festival. So if you're some if
you're a casual play azy listener, we were like, actually
really like film acting. Colorado is a hub for film.
Check that out. Moving forward a little bit in Colorado's history,
they're open to cannabis tourism right, so in twenty twelve
they started legalizing that for medicinal recreational use. They've made

(36:49):
a ton of money in their taxes for that.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
It's in Utah.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, so that I was like, I was like Wood,
but it's not.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I feel like it's I feel like I mess up
Utah and Colorado a lot.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
That's okay. Also, you know what was weird in my
research for Colorado theaters, I more than any other state
so far, kept pulling theaters from California, Montana, and Ohio. Really,
and I was like, hey, Google, Also, a lot of
people like, don't use Google because they've totally kind of
rotted out what search tools are. I've actually been using
Bang a lot, but it was I have I've been
using Bang really Yeah, because the Google like started as

(37:21):
a Okay, I'm gonna get like getting killed by Google.
Google started as a search engine and that was like
their niche. Now it's not good at that, but like
they rock out email and like doing a group project,
do you know what I mean? Like gez all that
other stuff. They're really focused on AI but because of
like all of their ads, it's actually very difficult to
get a good answer unless you add like Reddit to

(37:41):
the end of your search query.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
And I'm really good at searching because I had a
side job in tech, Like I know the tools I
can use to like put things in quote or do
certain things right. It's kind of booty. I hate it.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I feel like I just kind of I'm probably such
a simpleton that I just like search basic stuff and
it always pops up. I always get myself about.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Stuff Internet Explorer until someone literally looked over my shoulder
saw me doing it and go, oh, that's so funny.
And I went oh, and I started using like.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Chrome chrome or whatever.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
This is like a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Gosh, like I just got yesterday, I just got a Gmail. No,
you didn't like a year, remember I was well for
a really long time.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I know.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Anyway, that was such a sidebar. But anyway, so they're
early to cannabis, they're kind of slow to gay rights.
More recently, they've been in the news because the Colorado
Supreme Court was like Trump is de qed for the
twenty twenty four election because of what happened on January sixth,
but the US and Supreme Court overturned them. So kind
of lots going on in this state. I get why
people flock to it. I get that there's also a

(38:40):
rich history there if you're someone who's a history buff,
like look into it. I glossed over literally hundreds of years,
if not thousands, but a very kind of interesting state
to research. I caught a lot of like action that
you know some states that don't have that storied history
of like being involved in the war and stuff.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Well, so the first place I want to talk about
is the Denver Center for the Performing Arts. Yes, and
it's kind of like the first place I want to
start just because it's a giant hub for like a
lot of theaters.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Campus is sick.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, it's it's in Denver, which is kind of, you know,
the place to be. It's typically where you're gonna fly
into and stuff like that. But there's a few things
I want to talk about with it is first of all,
kind of how their seasons are split up, the types
of shows they have because they have a bunch of
theater spaces. And then also I want to talk about
their Colorado New Play Summit and the probably top two
playwrights that people will recognize who kind of sprung up

(39:32):
from that. So the Denver Center for the Performing Arts,
They've got the Bmuele Theater, Ellie Culkins Opera, House, Garner Galleria,
Jones Theater like a badjillion theaters truly, I think right now,
for like, they're kind of like Broadway shows that they're
bringing in. They call them upcoming blockbusters. They've got Hamilton,
They've got Funny Girl, Back to the Future, Life of Pie,

(39:54):
Book of Mormon, and Juliette Miloners.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Like Tours Bangers to Touring House.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
But then they have their own theater company, and that
theater company is doing Hamlet, I'm Not Your Perfect Mexican Daughter,
the Reservoir, the Suffragett's Murder, I Little Shopah, Horrors, hot Winking,
all sorts of stuff. Right, that's a little bit more
of like your your play person's vibe.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
They also do have auditions that you can go up for.
They have epas in New York and in Denver. So
if you're someone who's like, oh, I love those shows,
but I live in New York, that's something you should
have on your radar to be attention to. But then
they also have the Denver Center for Performing Arts off
center productions, and that's kind of like exciting programming, immersive stuff.

(40:38):
So that's they're doing like a spasic Explorer thing. A
monopoly thing Camp Christmas and it's kind of more like
hands on programming. Yeah, and not something i'd heard of.
So the New Play Summit, which again is my jam
I'm just loving this season talking about opportunities and yeah,
that's exactly what it sounds like, right, And so you're

(40:58):
you're given the opportunity for play riatings, they give you actors,
they give you feedback, and it's fully produced by the
theater company within this So the world premieres of The
Reservoir and The Suffer Jett's Murder were twenty twenty three
readings at the summit. Oh sick, Yeah, which again very
very cool. Now, unfortunately, if you're someone who's like, oh,

(41:20):
I want to do that, that's very cool. When you
click through, they're like, how do I be considered? Right,
because they've attracted people from outside of Colorado, which is
something we like to look for, especially on the season
as people are like, what does Colorado mean for me? Yeah,
and again like they're bringing in lots of industry people
like it's it's a very well done one.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
It's Sandy Ruslin is huge, I know.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah. So it does say on their play submissions that
they're taking a pause with their process. They've had such
a high volume, but they do still include their literary
departments email, So I think cool. Stay tuned on this
one for sure. But to get into it, how do
you know Sandy Rustin? Well, I mean Clue Clue, right, yeah, yeah,
Clue is like one of the most produced plays I

(41:59):
think of the last year.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I think it's the most produced player this last year.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah. And I found a really awesome interview with the
Denver Post and it's about the playwrights at Colorado New
Play Summit. It's several of them, but Sandy Rustern was
one of the biggest ones that I saw and then
caught the name of. It's a Q and A with
her and just a quick breakdown is her her latest one,
Suffer Jets Murder, is a who done it in New

(42:22):
York City boarding house at in eighteen fifty seven. It's
ten years after the first women's rights convention in Seneca Falls.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
She gets asked the question of like, oh my gosh,
this was specifically a commission to mark the one hundredth
anniversary of women's suffrage, Like what's going on?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
How did you do this?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
It's a great interview.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
She great play.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah. She talked about how it was actually originally commissioned
by Florida Florida Studio Theater and that they wanted her
to write a comedic piece and so how she was
able to kind of like leverage that, get into it,
find intersections, all good stuff like that. And then she
actually asked her this interviewer, what did you when did
you learn that Clue was among the most produced plays
of twenty two And she said, I actually learned at

(43:01):
the same time everyone else did. American Theater magazine came
out with its annual list in September, and I was
delighted to discover that Clue was the most third most
produced play. What a thrill.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, So she literally.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Found out from the magazine Insane, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
She's killing as she also.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Gets posed this question, which I like it a lot.
I believe in theater most of like the best mover
shakers are wearing multiple hats. And so the interviewer asks her,
how is being an actor influenced your playwriting? And she says,
I come at ideas from the perspective of an actor. First,
I start with characters, understanding who they are, how they talk,
how they move what they want. I would appear totally
bonkers to anyone watching me make my way through first

(43:38):
drafts of scripts. I go through text from top to
bottom out loud as if I'm playing each individual character.
I asked my playwright self questions that actors would ask
and rewrite and rewrite until I've satisfied my actor brain.
And I feel like I see that so much in
how we write. Yeah, especially when we write together. Oh yeah,
like fifty percent of our writing process when we co
write is just reading the scenes, reading this scene back

(44:00):
and then being like why why would I say that?
We're kind of doing these like ab improvisations to get there.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Basically, so when you're writing putting you on the Sandy restaurant, see,
give me, how is your actor brain turned on?

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm I mean, I think it's it's it's very very similar.
Like I think that like when I write on my own,
I read things out loud all the time, and I
think I don't think as much as like, does my
actor brain satisfy it? More like do the words make
sense in my mouth? Like? I think the something that
I really pride myself on is that all of the
text that I write I try fingers crossed knock on

(44:31):
wood to like make it sound really like hypernatural, like
super super like, oh, like it flows out of your
mouth like Yeah. Like when I have a reading of
a show and I hear someone's like make a contraction
of a word or whatever like that, like that that
I didn't write, I immediately want to change it because
I wanted to feel as simple and quick as possible.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
So yeah, I think maybe less of an actor brain.
I'm more of a like a a person talking brain.
But like I do, I do feel like when I write,
I kind of look at it similarly, like saying it
out loud to hear how it sounds. I also so,
I just interviewed Douglas Lions Doug who he wrote Teople
seventeen Chicken and Biscuits. He'd said he was just in
parade on Broadway, like he's a huge actor and is

(45:10):
also a great brilliant writer and said the exact same thing.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I find that I want to write plays where when
someone sees it, they're going to get really jealous and
everyone's going to want to play every part. Yeah, like
roles where there's no bad roles. Yeah, but yeah, that
study of like how would a human do it? Like
when I'm in my director brain or when I was
teaching and stuff like that. If I would hash out
blocking like with my students, I would do kind of

(45:34):
studio style, and a lot of people like, oh I
don't let non majors like chime in, and no, I
would do that. We would set up, you know, parameters
for that discourse was going to work. But when we
would all mutually get stuck on like how is this
scene going to play out? It doesn't tell us what
the blocking is. What do we want to do with
the couch in the scene?

Speaker 1 (45:48):
You guys?

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Right, all these eighteen year old who have been maybe
never done this before. The question iol I would always
ask him is like, okay, well how would a human
do it?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Right?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Because it's only when you overthink that you're like, how
do I sit in a chair if my husband wants
a divorce?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Right?

Speaker 3 (45:59):
So anyway, I think I think actors break it down
into like, Okay, well, what would I want to talk
about if I got one week of tablework?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, which we all wish.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
We had five weeks of tablework if you listen to
our podcast, Oh yeah, but like it's reverse engineering like
what would I like to experience? Which I think is
very powerful. Anyway, Sandy's the best, very very cool interview
Salvagist Murder.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
It is a great play, stunning.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
So then I keep digging and I'm like, Okay, well,
who else kind of like got their start here that
we know? This name came up and I know I've
talked about him before, but I didn't remember this facet.
I remember him being in Minneapolis for a time. Stephen
Deets is from Denver, whoa Steven Deets went to the
University of Northern Colorado. Again, I think I talked about
Private Eyes here, but Stephen Deets is very popular one
of playwrights he does.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Julie produced Massive.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
He took an interview with a slash article with boulderwekly
dot com. It's very good. It's it's titled a Denver
Boy at Heart and it starts by kind of saying
that like in the eighties and nineties, Deets was directing,
directing at Denver Center for Performing Arts and with their
acting company, right, so that kind of thing I explained.

(47:06):
And he wrote this play later called What Happens Later,
and it became a movie adapted to a movie with
Meg Ryan in it, Wow, based off his play Shooting Star,
and Denver Center Theater Company was the people who originally
commissioned that play. So the start of the article is like,
we would never have gotten this amazing, like Meg Ryan
romcom if Stephen Deeds had ever written this play because

(47:29):
he never directed at you know, Denver Theater. It's this
beautiful thing and it's kind of like reclaiming him home,
which I think is very, very fascinating. So anyway, in
two thousand and eight, it was commissioned through their New
Play program, like I've just talked to you about, hopefully
they'll let you take amission soon. It ended up actually
premiering in Austin, where he lives half the year, and
he spends half the year in Seattle. But let's not
forget that his career didn't start taking off until he

(47:51):
lived in Minneapolis, where he was working at the Playwrights Center.
So if you're someone who's like, wow, justin an Erica
moved to New York, that seems scary, that seems weird.
The crux of this article is being like, hey, here's
why those other spaces are just as valid and what
they mean.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
So there's sony players that never go to New York,
that do well and do good things to me artist, Yeah,
it's it is very.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Much like obviously we did it. I'm not saying don't
do that. I just asked someone who's like from the Midwest,
like I it's.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
A scary jump that isn't for everybody, and also like
it's not a necessary jump. So that feels like it,
but it has to be.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
I had this memory, you know how we talked last time,
I think, or a few times ago about like our
audition memory. I remember being like a little girl at
a Panera bread when it first opened. Yeah, hmm, that's
hold I am, and my mom took me there after
like soccer practice or something. And I don't remember what
adult we were talking to, an adult that like maybe
a teacher, my sister's teacher. Some outside or adult asked

(48:46):
me what I wanted to be when I grew up,
and I was like, oh, I really want to be
an actor, and the person like in the most patronizing
voice ever to like a kid, but still was like, oh,
do you want to be on Broadway? And I remember
as a kid being like, well, actually no, because I
don't think that's ever going to happen for me. And
I don't do musicals and I don't dance. I have

(49:07):
this really even then, I was like, yeah, that doesn't
really seem like something i'll do. It's just that I
know I'm an actor, i know I'm an artist, and
like that's just probably what I'm gonna do. But they
had this really specific notion of what that meant. Yeah,
and they also had a very specific notion that people
like me didn't achieve things like that. Yeah, And at
that point I was like, you know what, I didn't
want to. But at however, many years old, I am

(49:29):
waiting for my pineapple upside down cake they used to carry,
I was kind of like, screech, I want to now.
I don't want to be on Broadway, you know what
I mean. So it's a very fascinating like psychology and
American theater of like what's good, what means that you
made it, what's official? And this article on Boulder Weekly
with Stephen Dee, it's like, really really does a good
job unpacking that. Yeah, And so he talks a little

(49:50):
bit about like, you know, how he moved around, and
he has this quote he says, you don't want to
disappoint your hometown. You want to do right by the
place that made you. And he talks about how he
still has ti to Denver, he still goes there, and
he talks about how he used to compare himself to
his playwriting peers from New York in la He said,
playwright buddies of mine that grew up on the East
Coast have a certain edge and energy. West Coast buddies

(50:10):
have a laconic cool. I a solver simplification. Yeah, but
this is quote. I feel like I'm in the middle.
I think there's something open and optimistic about my writing,
and I've been both praised and accused of being an optimist.
And so this idea of seeing your own writing identity
and comparing yourself to others a very very very good article.
He talks a lot about how grateful he is to

(50:31):
regional theaters and that he encourages other emerging and inspiring
playwrights to pay attention to local opportunities, which is like
very much the crux of this season. He says, my
career has been made by regional theaters. I can be
envious about plays on Broadway, or I can do my
work right. I don't have any place to be envious
because I've had such good fortune. Very very cool, very

(50:52):
very good internation.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
That's a really good way to look at things.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah, even if you're not a fan of like his
writing or anything like that, because his writing does have
a very specific tone. I just think it was it
was very like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Love. I'm a huge bit of private Eye.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Private I don't the other places that he's written don't
speak to me as much. When I read I read
no Idol and I was like, oh, I got to
read more because it speaks to me so much, And
I found more with Steven Deets, and I haven't read
all of his work. Privateizes specifically. It's specific, and I
think it's because it's about actors, and all his other
plays obviously aren't all about acting.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Very very cool. He ends up by saying, peep, we're
just start of this quote. I would just encourage my
player at Comrades to be on the radar of their
local theaters. I know there's great writers there. I would
encourage them to make use of the beautiful places where
they live, because the people and audiences there are dynamic,
highly educated and passionate what stories haven't been told there?
What stories need to be told? You have to make

(51:51):
your work where you are. And this idea of like
also not waiting how what you're actually better at this
than me? But how many times typically in an artistic
career in life do you like hold yourself back?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Do you wait?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Tell? Well, when I live in New York, it'll be easier.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
To do this.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Oh yeah, it's constant. It's like this horrible form of
self sabotage, sabotage of like waiting till you're ready or
something like that. And one of my favorite Stephen Dead's
lines from Private Eyes is like, if you're waiting for
the perfect moment to hurt someone, like it'll never come right.
And you can talk about that, you know, towards yourself
in this artistic way. Anyway, that was a really long
kind of deep dive into this article, but it really
really spoke to me. I'm gonna pop through some other

(52:28):
theaters that came up. There's the Cherry Creek Theater. This
is located also in Denver. They have a new play
reading series. You can audition for them, you can volunteer
for them. Their website's Cherry Creek Theater dot Org and
they have a form they encourage all Colorado playwrights who
are interested to submit their scripts. So I think that
is more specific to Colorado, but if you scroll down,

(52:51):
you can see Colorado Blase playwrights that have won in
the past few years. And some of these people also
have new play exchanges. So take a look at that
Arvada Center. Arvada.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
It's a good name.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
I know, it's a really good one. So the Arvada
Center has a really really cool season. They're starting with Waitress,
They're doing Kate Hamil's Dracula, They're doing once a part
of Mattress killing It right now, I know, Cliborne Park.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
They're doing once a Mattress Late, I know, right.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
So they've got a lot going on. And then they
also have auditions for Gentlemen's Guide and something called Lyle
the Crocodile, which is a tya show. So the nice
thing I wanted to point about out about Arvada Center
is that they have ECC auditions for it. Those take
place in October of twenty twenty four, so this might
be after the fact, but underneath that and Bold, which

(53:39):
you love to see it says non union actors, please
check back on September thirtieth sign up for any remaining
time slots.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
That's sick. Yeah, No, that's very cool. No one does that.
No one does that. That's awesome maybe to like.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
People who aren't into the nuances that they're like, Okay,
that's like a cool fact to I. No, that like
actually means something. Yeah, And it means something about how
this theater views the non equity actors in their community.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
That's so cool of them. I don't think I've ever
seen a place be like, yo, come back here. You
can sign up now.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Now will there be slots? I don't know. But now
after September thirtieth, can you refresh that tap through times
a day and snag one that somebody else leaves? Yeah,
you can, And they gave you permission to. You don't
have to feel weird. You don't have to wake up
for five am to do something degrading whatever. So that's cool.
Something to pop out. You talked about something in California,
and weirdly I found a similar thing in Boulder.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Chautauqua Theater in Boulder, Colorado has this thing called Wicked
Wanderings in the Fall and.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Actually a specific thing. Yeah, it seems.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Very perfect for you. It's a theatrical hike. Yeah, and
they happen in September and then again in October. It's
this is the wicked wandering gist. That's why Patti Murtha says,
don't wander alone in the woods. It's a caution as
old as time, and for good reason. So many frightful
things lurk amongst the trees, from wicked witches to frightful fairies.

(54:53):
And what is a mere mortal to do with when
confronted with such evils. Join us on the trail as
we explore tails that will show us just how dark
the forest can be. So the hikes are moderate, they're
like level. It's not like crazy Colorado hikings, so don't
be scared. They don't last more than two hours. And
when you arrive, you get a hiking guide who leads
you down a trail to different scene locations, and then
you sit back, you watch, you watch a scene from

(55:13):
this production, and then you keep going. Yeah, so it's
a it's a hike, but it's also kind of like
a haunted hay ride. But it's also like a play. Yeah,
and it just made me really really happy. There's also
at this location like tons of concerts and different stuff.
So if you're trying to do something touristy and like
your whole family is maybe not a theater person like
this would be so good. But it's called Wicked Wanderings
and it honestly made me want to write one like

(55:34):
in a corn Maze.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
It made me want to write something in Central Park.
I know that.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Sounds so cool, and it's it's like you start and
you stop, like as someone who last time I went
on a big hike, I didn't know I had COVID.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
And I remember being I remember that.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
God, I know I was so bad at hiking. Like
I guess everybody's got to learn at some point that
they're a bad at hiking Bullae COVID didn't know. But anyway,
this type of thing seemed really really accessible, very me.
The other theater I wanted to shout out is Miscreant
Theater Collective because they're doing The Pillowman by Martin McDonough
the fall Halloween slot. They offer like twenty dollars rush tickets,

(56:09):
which I love to see. Yeah, that's something that's upcoming.
In general, the Denver not Denver. The Colorado theater scene
is so tight that later on I'm gonna also talk
about like the websites and resources you can use to
be like, I'm here on this date, you know everything
that's playing, everyone's sharing information. Cool, I think, because the
tourism in Colorado is just so tight, so it's really

(56:31):
easy to find stuff to do, which totally rocks. So
if you're a fan of scary Halloween stuff, do that.
Another theater company I want to shout is called Local
Theater Company. They really really like to discover, develop and
produce new American plays. So they're a nonprofit. They're based
in Boulder, and in twenty nineteen, on their website it
says they employed more than one hundred and twenty equity
and equity and non equity oh my god, non equity

(56:53):
artists and designers from around the country. They're SPT contract right,
so they're paying you, but they're still really small, really
tight knit. Seems super super cool, and they like to
develop world premiere plays, small cast musicals, and then hybrid
and devise theater pieces with this thing called their Local Lab,
which is essentially them offering artists like a workshop production,

(57:14):
giving them like an opportunity to explore, strengthen their work,
do stuff like that, and then at the end of
your workshops, it's publicly presented with like post show conversations.
Typically they're in Boulder. Last year, I guess, and this
year it was in March. Their application window has closed already,
but in spring of twenty twenty five they'll be accepting
scripts again. Again, this is in Boulder. They want unproduced

(57:35):
full length plays, they want small cast musicals. They don't
want you if you're already applied, to send stuff that
you have already applied. Yeah, but they've got a portal
for you to do all this.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
That's sick.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
There's no entry fee, right, there's no fee if you
get selected, which I'm learning more and more as I
become a playwright that that's a thing. Yeah. Anyway, it's
a very cool company. Again, I want to really shout
out stuff that accept submissions. Yeah, sure like that stuff,
so local theater company. Check that out. Then I started
again until I'm like, where have my friends worked in Colorado? Yeah,

(58:07):
Rocky Mountain Rep.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
A big one. So it's a big rep theater. They
do auditions everywhere. I think the Chicago, New York. So
this is a theater where if you're someone is in
the Union or maybe the non Union, you have a
really good chance of being seen there. I don't know,
I feel like Rocky Mountain Rep. And then the next
one I'm going to talk about, Creed Rep. Are two
theaters where like if you haven't worked there, someone you
know knows someone who has somehow that just happens a lot,

(58:30):
I think with regional theater, but Creed Rep. Is also
a really established theater. A lot of my friends have
worked there as technicians and stuff like that. Creed is
like in the mountains, like you will have like you
can have like oxygen sickness there. You got to like
get in there. Sometimes plays get interrupted by bears.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Yeah, like it's it's.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Like like actually bear.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Yeah. Creed is like quite isolated, but again, like it's
very cool to know that in a state like Denver,
even like out in the Boonies, like there's people be
kind of sick. Yeah. Like literally I've gotten so many
snapchats like the last ten years of like ugh, I
had to hold for a bear and it's like a
picture of the bear, like someone like stage blacks and
a mic, like trying to scare it off, like trying
to bang pops and bands together.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
That's insane, crazy.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Yeah, anyways, they try to scare it off when it
gets there. Yeah, there's some bears you can scare. You
can scare a black bear, but you can't find out
like a brown bear or anything like that. I've I've
worked at places where I had to learn what types
of bears they have, so I know how to act.
If it's a black bear, you're probably gonna live, unless
it's like a mama bear with her cubs.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Black bears just want trash.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
I'm a bear.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
I've seen a bear, but it was dead. It got
hit by a car. Yeah, and remember thinking what is that?
What is that? I was driving down this highway because
I'd never seen a bear in real life. I was like,
what could be that? I was like it's a dog
and I was like, wait, it's so big and I'm
so far away. It was a bear that got hit
by a car.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Can I say something?

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Up until this moment, I kind of thought if a
car hit a bear, the car would die me too.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
But like it was a black bear, Like maybe it
just like glanced it. I think if you hit a
grizzly bear, like you'd be ejected into the bear's mouth.
That's I'm just saying. I saw I saw a bear's roadkill,
and that's how I knew I was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I didn't know that, Yeah, that's crazy eric coon lore.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
But then because I saw the dead bear, I kind
of was like, maybe this is an omen and now
I'm going to see like a live bear.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
And so then every time I was like outside by
like dumpsters or trash, really scared that there was going
to be a bear. Yeah. And so also I was
staying with a family who had like cats, and the
cats were lived to go outside, and so they were like, hey,
if you ever see like a bear or something messing
with the cats, like obviously you got to protect yourself,
but like go grab grab some bots and pants starting.

(01:00:37):
I ended up loving those cats. I lived there for
like a year, and I wanted to protect them with
my life. And so I would think, like sometimes I'd
be at the kitchen table, like what if I looked
at and I saw bear, Like what would I grab?
And then I decided, like I just yell, I'd use
all like the rage inside me and I'd say that,
I'd say the meanest, nastiest thing to that bear. You
would die if one of those cat is on the line.

(01:00:57):
Not a black bear. I could survive a black bear.
I couldn't survive any other.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
No, But it's funny that, like you're sitting in a kitchen,
You're like, what would grab and be like I would
just yell insults.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I would use my voice.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
That wouldn't be helpful.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
I'm gonna write a monologue. We're like, this is her
internal moog. She's like, I'm gonna use my voice just
gets molded.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
The face mold game over. The reason why they have
the thing is it's allowed, and it makes high pitch
noises and stuff. You just being like you're a jerk.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Well it was like, I don't know. I guess I
thought I could.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
You're a stupid idiot bear. I hate you. I hate you.
Leave the cat alone alone.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
The bear So sorry, Yeah, that you have to be
protective of deer with puppies, right, yeah. Yeah, Like there's
just wherever you're from, there's like this weird stuff to
be afraid of. The stops every time I move somewhere new,
I'm like, hmm, what should I be afraid of, Like
I moved West Virginia. I'm like, you guys got snakes?

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
What you got a bunch of bad stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Cougars? What's what's going around here? Anyway? So yeah, Creed
you might have a bear. But anyway, check out the website.
It's creed wrap dot org. They do, they've casting and
stuff like that. They're alert d theater yea, and so
they offer union and non union contract that's cool, yep,
so check it out again. Most of my friends have
worked there in a designer capacity. But also there's something
called the Headwaters Program there and that's kind of like

(01:02:07):
a world premiere script series. So take a look at that.
It looks like it hasn't been updated since twenty twenty three,
so hopefully that's something you can stay tuned on. But again,
that's the Creed Rep Headwaters Program. A couple others that
popped up because I like to look at like apprenticeships,
people who are offering paid stuff to folks or maybe
like just out of school. Yeah, I think a lot
of our listeners are theater Aspen has an apprenticeship program.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Oh yeah, I've heard about theirs.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Yeah, I've heard about it. And they've got apprenticeship programs
like for all sorts of things development, music, direction, props,
writing and directing like a ton and they offer like
I think three seventy five a week for an apprenticeship
that's okay, which in terms of apprenticeships pretty actually pretty good.
So Theater Aspen, if that's not on your radar, might
be something you want to look into. Another one that

(01:02:51):
popped up as being very popular in Colorado is a
curious theater company. They're doing Potus right now, which is
super cool.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Everyone's doing everyone's doing Potus.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
People love it and oh hang on, they have like
a really sassy statement. I don't know if I'm gonna
be able to find it. I should have written it down.
Oh no, I'm not gonna remember it. But essentially, like
their whole thing is like we do really cool bold plays.
Oh yeah, and they also really like to specialize in
plays written by women. So if you are a Colorado

(01:03:22):
playwright or you're represented, you are welcome to reach out
to them with scripts. So accept a ten page script
sample from any Colorado based playwright. Just include like a synopsis,
your resume stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Besides that, they don't do unsolicited, so check it out.
They also have options for like if you don't have
access to a computer, like how to submit if you
can't do electronically. So again, curious theater company like cares
very much about playwrights. It looks like specifically new voices. Yeah,
last year, I'm gonna hit there's this place called Boss
Blue Theater which is in Fort Collins. I know, let
me just list you the first like four plays that

(01:03:56):
they're doing. Native Gardens, Karen's Aakreis, Act a Lady by
Jordan Harr, The Open House by Will Eno, Waiting for
Good Oh by Samuel Beckett.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Yeah, random poll I found because I'm just look like,
there's so many theaters in Denver, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Just kind of pulling ones like stick out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Also in the spring. What are they doing or reading
of in April twenty twenty five? That's right, The Clean House,
one of my favorite plays of old yay, very very cool.
And of course what do I like to talk about
theaters doing. They're caring about original works, So they have
the Boss Blue Theater's Original Works Program. Yeah, and it's
for playwrights in the Northern Colorado region. Each year they
pick a new play and it's produced in August for

(01:04:31):
a weekend of performances. It totally rocks, and it has
the opportunity to then move on to their main stage
as well. That's sick, super cool, super awesome. Open Stage
Theater Company is another one that I found. Their season
is Reefer Madness, The Minutes, Pride and Prejudice, ky Amil,
and The thirty nine Steps.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Dude, The Minutes absolutely insane. That brings me so much rum.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
They have all of their casting information on their website
as well as, like the Stipen, they offer a small
styp in there, so check it out. Just that was
a season where I was like that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
That's a cool season.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
And then a really other cool theater I wanted to
mention is this theater called Family Theater, and Family is
spelled p h A m A l Y, and it's
an acronym for Physically Handicapped Amateur Musical Actors League WHOA Yeah,
And it's a theater that's dedicated to performers who live
with disabilities and who are frustrated about a lack of opportunity.

(01:05:24):
It's a very very cool spot. Check it out. If
that's something that speaks to you. I know that, Like
in Iowa, we had a group that would do that.
I would work with folks who had disabilities and like
help them produce musicals and stuff like that can involve
very very cool family theater company. And then I like
to also include dinner theaters because like dinner theaters kind

(01:05:45):
of rock. Like a lot of you know who like
make good money, like they just work. So there's a
dinner theater called Candlelight and they're doing bright Star right now.
Oh shoot, yeah, and they have auditions coming up. So
if you're someone is like, I want to that out.
I couldn't find their menu because I wanted to ask
you about the menu, just my favorite thing on a
dinner theater website. But yeah, and then you consider I

(01:06:07):
didn't find a lot of plays or anything that was
set in Colorado. Otherwise would have talked about it at length.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
There is a musical though, which is a pretty niche
and pretty old. It's called The Unsinkable Molly Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I know that. Yeah, I know that musical.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Yeah, and it's about a woman from Colorado who is stuck.
She's on the Titanic.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
And so like if you're like a listeners like I
love musical so Titanic, I love Colorado. That one was
for you, and then the last couple of things I'm
gonna say it is just like good websites. There's a
website called on Stage Colorado dot com and it totally
rocks because it's gonna give you a just a calendar
of what's playing. So if you're like, I don't want
to waste my time, yeah, I feel like I don't
want waste my time like looking at a bunch of websites,

(01:06:45):
go to on Stage Colorado dot com. You can look
at the full calendar, or you can look at shows
by category, or you can look at shows by region.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Wait really Yeah, it's like one of the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Most streamlined kind of state websites I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Nice for finding stuff you don't get that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
A lot totally rocks. They also have reviews, so like
they're talking about the Pillman on here, they're talking about
dialog for murder that's happening, very very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
What'ses I called again?

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
It's called on Stage Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
On Stage Colorado, and it also has something.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
That helps if you're interested in any of these companies
I've talked about, or maybe you're like my com but
they didn't get talked about. It's called the Big List
of Colorado Theaters.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
That's so nice.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
And I'm gonna just scroll and I just want you
to take in how many theaters there are on Colorado.
Here we go, Oh, let me scroll.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Oh my god, I'm just scrolling.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
I'm scrolling on a computer.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
That's just yep, there's so many.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
There is a mammoth amount of theaters in Colorado, like
there just wasn't a world.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
That's very cool.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
I can get through them all, but I'm still scrolling,
and I'm scrolling at a very fast pace.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah. Yeah wo.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
So if you're interested in that, or maybe you're like
I'm worried that my theater isn't on that list, go
reach out and find out. The last resource I want
to reach out or talk about is Colorado Theater Guild.
They have a unified audition, which is where a lot
of these companies cast out of. Their unified audition was
in April of this year, and it's an in person
kind of cattle call audition. And if you're like, oh,

(01:08:09):
I miss that, you can still go to the Colorado
Theater Guild website and they have an amazing, amazing audition
and job board and so if you scroll down you
can say all sorts of jobs can filtered by category.
Right So, like right now as I record this in September.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
The Colorado version of Playbell.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
YEP, they're looking for stage managers. They're doing auditions at
Curious Theater Company. They're looking for tech directors, costume designers,
lighting designers, AA singers for a gentleman's gude to love
to murder, like so so many resources. So what I
want to take away from Colorado is a it's a
place that people want to be and so it's a
place where people want to go see theater. And I
think there's something to that where people want to flock to.

(01:08:45):
There's thriving art scenes and on top of that, they
make it easy to go find art that's there. There
is like an infrastructure in place for tourists, for people
who live there, there's dedicated spaces. It's clearly like a
state in a community really really cares about their theater
artists absolutely, and it reminded me a lot of like
how I felt living in Minnesota. So that's Colorado kind

(01:09:08):
of a whirlwind. But yeah, that's sick lot's going on.
Good for player, it's good for actors.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Yeah, Colorado, go take a hike Colorado, Colorado. Nice. Well,
I feel like we should end this episode the way
we end every episode. A little game justin New Zach.
All right, let's lay one down.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
This is play disease to choose and a lie six
seven to cheer San Lie Choong.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Tell lies about the states you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
This is the one. This is the one that's right.
It's time for the t t l L l l
l L. This is our game for season three two.
Choose in a lie. I thought of two. I thought
of three statements. One of them is a lie, two
of them are true about Colorado, and Eric is gonna
have to figure out which.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
One the lie is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
This Yeah, okay, these are three really good ones. Okay, okay,
this first one's crazy, actually crazy. In ninety ninety two,
a woman named I'm Gonna butcher this Melissa Buddhist beaut
I s b u t Buddhist boot Tis Sure gave
birth to triplets and named them Aurora, Aspen, and Boulder.
And she was living in Phoenix, Arizona at the time,

(01:10:27):
and the doctors were very confused. She grew up in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
That doesn't seem like something that would happen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Yeah, I was looking up like like fun weird stories
about Colorado. But yeah, so she named her triplets Aurora,
Aspen and Boulder.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Lots of context to that one, But.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Okay, go this next one is the exact opposite. My
cousin lives there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Your cousins do seem like people who would live there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
A lot of my sons live in Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
You have cousins, You have a lot of cousins, A.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Ton of cousins. I have like over forty cousins.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
That sucks, honestly, that's the worst thing for her.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
That's my cousin lives there. Okay. And then the last
one when the simple and then my last one is
Denver on average records three hundred days of sunshine a year,
more than San Diego or Miami Beach.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
That seems right, because of the mountains.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
More than San Diego or Miami Beach.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
When you're trying to trick me, am I, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
You're trying to right. I'll read them all you one
more time. In nineteen ninety two, a woman named Melissa
boot tiss I still feel I feel bad, I'm butchering
it give birth. The tripless named Aurora Asthman Poulder while
she was living in Phoenix, Arizona, and the doctors were
reportedly very confused.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
If that's a lie, it's a good lie.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
My cousin lives there, that's the perfect lie.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
In Denver, on a average, records three hundred day of
sun Chhina year, more than San Diego or Miami Beach.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
I just feel like I would have read that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
I feel like something that we at the top of
a Google search when you search Colorado fun facts.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
I'm like, when I went to Denver, like we lived together.
I'm like, when I was like I'm going to Denver,
you didn't say, like, oh, my cousin lives there all.
I feel like that would have come up. I don't know,
I don't think your cousin lives in Denver.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Is that your final answer? Yeah, sure, yeah, my cousin.
My cousin moved to My cousin doesn't live in Denver,
but my cousin lives in Colorado. And the thing I
said was my cousin lives there. I didn't say my
cousin lives in Denver. You didn't know I said my
cousin lives there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Oh I thought you said your cousin lives in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Denver because I lives in Colorado. Wait, maybe I did
say my cousin lives in Denver.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Well, here's the thing, it's a podcast. So wait wait
was that the lie?

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Yeah? That was the one? Or no, that was the truth.
Wait now I'm confused which one's your why? Because it
does live in Colorado?

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Wait, so that's truee, So what's the lie?

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I made up the whole thing at the beginning the
Milita Buddhist one have a fake one this day we
can't pronounce I made up a whole thing, and I
literally wrote, I wrote Melissa Buddhist, and then the season
I wrote pretend to not know how to pronounce her name.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Well, and then I was like, that's such a little
performance for me. Am I saying this right, like, I'm
gonna knows just some household most like, what type of
like article did you read? I? This is me off.
Here's the thing. I know a couple people who are
die hard listeners, my mom our friend Faith, Yeah, they're
gonna know if you said Denver.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Well, I'm just gonna edit it. So yeah, edit it.
I'm going to edit it. What do you mean, I'm
gonna edit you?

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Hear him say Denver, just so you know. I think
he edited it out. And as the guy who does
all the editing, I'm helpless. I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
I didn't say Denver, I said, I said Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Maybe that's me being a jerky jerk that I'm like,
oh yeah, Colorado, Denver.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Yeah, I mean, I here's the thing. I might have
like said lives there, and then the same time I
like lives in Denver, because in my head, Denver's Colorado, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Well you Winny again?

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Got you again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I hated how simple that was. My cousin lives there,
No nothing to go on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
In nineteen Melissa, buddhists made up. You have so many packs.
All of it was made up. See that's a good lie.
Whenever you lie, you like take a real fact that
you change a couple of little things.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Right, That is more unfair. That's not a sporting that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
This is I just made something up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Okay, do we want to agree that? I mean we're just
now on CEA. Do we want to agree that? Moving forward? Like,
if you make up a lie, you don't twist it
true with you full lie.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
No, No, I like I like being able to strategically
hurt each other. Well, because in my head I was like,
I was like, oh, I could just say Denver on
average records three hundred days of sun China year, more
than Los Angeles and Miami Beach, and I could say
I lied, it's actually San Diego. Yeah, but that's's but
that's what's I thought about doing that just to get you,
but then I was like, it's more fun to make
something up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
I'm so worried about getting you, I'm forgetting to have fun.
So next time I don't know what's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
My next day, I'll Loveabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, color Connecticut.
You know you're Connecticut because I did. No, I'm Connecticut
because I say Californiac.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
I'm Delaware.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Yeah, Connecticut.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Wish me luck.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Thank you so much for listening to the podcast. This
has been Colorado. If you want to please rate, review,
and subscribe to the show, follow us on Instagram at
Justin Borack at actual racoon, and read our stuff and
on our new play change. Check out our website too.
Your website's just ercon dot com or Ericadish, ericadashcan dot com.
It's Justin Borack dot com. They're in the bio. Read
our plays, new play change, read kill the Bird, read

(01:14:53):
my stuff. Do check out Cabin Chronicles and Community Garden
through placescripts. Go produce them please Oh fun fact, I
don't I'm not gonna say the names because I don't
know if that's okay. In the last week and a half,
like my players have kind of been like, uh, they've
been getting like produced a bit. Three high schools in Colorado.
What three high schools in Colorado are doing Commedy Garden
and Cabin Chronicles three I think two are doing Community Garden,

(01:15:14):
one doing canc manifesting them. Yeah, it was crazy. I
was like I kept seeing CEO and I was like,
it's so weird cool. But Colorado, thank you, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Thanks for supporting us back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Thank you Colorado. But if you're in Colorado, go see
my go see my show. I'm not going to say
where they are because I don't want their high schools.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
But doing that at the end, I'm like, and these
are the places doing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Justin's playing, these are places doing Justin very special show.
Oh I did say last time too. But the la
premiere of Community Garden is happening in like a couple
of months, also at high school. So I don't know
I can said to the premieeres, but they are I
think they're the first high school, first high school to
do it there. But but yeah, so yeah, go buy
and read those plays. Go check out all of our stuff.

(01:15:55):
Go see theater here in Colorado. You now know of
Like god, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
More, I know, I know what harm are we at
one seventeen and I hate my life?

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
I got it curse Okay, but yeah, go check out
all the places that Eric talked about. There were so
freaking many of them. Yeah, they're in They're all over
the place. So they're like, there's so many things to
check out. But yeah, go go watch theater. Go see theater.
And yeah, I'm gonna end this episode of the way
another episode by looking at my best friend and have
beautiful blue eye and saying, Erraccon, I love.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
You so myrist back, don't you break my mirror. I
love you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
It's falling on me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Oh my

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