Delaware - Punkin Chunkin, Delaware Theatre Centre and the Wilmington Drama League - Play to Z

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, welcome to play the Zee.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Please rise for this season's introduction song, fight through It.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Connecticut.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Good job, Hell, I thought we're gonna say Alabama.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh do you want to? No, you know, let's turn
it off with that. Okay, I'm not gonna added this already.
I don't like editing. Two.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Three, Hey, everybody, Paza Alaska Aerkan sau California, Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Delloware it's Delaware? You can Delaware? You guys, I'm your
coasin justin back, I'm Erica coon.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
And we forgot to sing last time.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, we did. We've gotten to sing a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
We'll be better.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Rely, No, that was my lie. Can I say something
that sometimes? I just got that and that was good.
That was a really good lie, fully fake.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'm getting better.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
You're getting so good. I'm really proud of my two
treats and a lie today. My question that I was
going to bring up to you first, how are you?
We haven't talked in about six minutes because we took
a p break between recording Connecticut and Delaware.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't let us go in at the same time,
which I.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Thought was kind of really weird of you.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, it was kind of weird of me. It was
off putting to me.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Ever since I moved to New York, have become kind
of an elitist when it comes to your nation.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
We have one bathroom, Yeah we do.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, we do have one bathroom. Yeah, we do only
have one bathroom. I'm trying to think of. Like, here's
the hard thing about recording. We record two episodes a
week now on these weekends, which is great, and we're
banking really well and everything, but also like these episodes,
we've been getting way more into like banter, Like at
the top, our banter is a lot longer because we
want to talk more at the top because we're doing

(02:09):
more stuff, but also like it's a one side. It's
a little bit more one side of an episode. Yeah,
but when the second episode every week is always like
we do like twenty minutes, it's always yours. We do
like twenty minutes of banter, and then we talk forever,
and we've already talked because we live together, and then
we get to hear it, I'm like, huh, what do
I want to talk about?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, do you want to talk about Friday? What's happening
on Friday?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
What's happening on Friday, our Friday. Oh Hater's gonna Oh yeah,
I talk about a little bit in Connecticut, but yeah,
we Hatter's gonna hate is getting an industry reading through
the prep New York and read out in New York.
And we had our first rehearsal yesterday. Really well, by
the time you're listening to this, it's.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
It's already happen.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's already happened months ago. But it's how we roll
this season exactly exactly. Yeah, here's the thing. Six months
from now, we're gonna miss the days where we're like,
we are so banked be people are going to take
a little Chrismas break. We're taking a little break here.
We're gonna be like exactly recording week to week.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I'm gonna have to go to Ohio or something crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
We're gonna have to go to Ohio in a car
we live even though we live in a placeure we
don't have to move.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
We both have to wrint cars somehow cars and go
to Ohio. All our equipment is we go.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
We get so overwhelmed by not being banked up, we
just go to Ohio for no reason.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's like when like Mary and Joseph for the holidays,
Like they're looking for a place to stay and you
and me have to go find like an abandoned radio
station in Ohio on Christmas for the pabies.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, I do think we should. We were talking about
making more video content, which we're going to do hopefully Jesus, Yeah, hopefully,
but exactly hopefully by the time this episode comes has
come out, we've already made a little bit more video
content because the episode doesn't come out to.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Like our roommate today was like, are you guys making
video content? You're so silly in person?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, I know. And we were like, you know what
I kind of want to do. I kind of want
to rent a podcast studio here in New York for
like two hours or like a couple of hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
What's up is the New York Public Library literally has that.
It's just that it's booked out for like six months
at a time.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Jeez.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Really, Yeah, there's actually obviously a ton of really great,
like publicly funded resources here. I think you just have
to like know when sign ups drop, Like, honestly, we
should be fread a librarian.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, we should be friend a librarian.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
If you try to your librarian. Please give me a jingle.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
And if you are su kuno a jingle, I'm not.
I'm sorry shout out scun But uh yeah, is there
anything Wait? I have a question.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Finish that thought.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
First, I forget.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
You wanted to record you to run a podcast studio.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Oh, I want to run a podcast udio because also,
like our our setup in Morgantown, we had, like that
sun room in the back that you guys saw, we had,
like it was a good setup. I don't think there's
a setup in our apartment that we can like record yeah,
decent video.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I think the option is if we both are on
the bed.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah exactly. Yeah. But also I like that it cuts
back and forth. It makes it feel quicker, So I
kind of want us to be in different spots.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay, picture this, We're on opposite sides of the bed
and cutting back and forth foot and head, foot in head.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Where we're head to toe.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
There's one there's one like overall super cut shot and
we're we're totsy to tootsy like this.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
So so funny, so silly.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
That's the that's the gag.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's so silly, that's so funny. Yeah, No, I think
that could be Honestly, it might be funny to like
both just lay in bed head to toe and holding
our mics and just like saying, like dreaming up like
theater scenario.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Okay, but what's the funniest, because you know I gotta
do it? What's the funniest, like hun that we can?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
This is a you thing. I don't know. You're way better.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I'll think about it the elevator you.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I will say something that made me so mad. You
thought of a name for a new play that I'm writing.
I'm a name guy, and I changed it, and I
had my first meeting with my like I'm a ripple
effect fellow, and I remember the love the new name,
like really, yeah, it's a fish the new name of
my play.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Did you say, Oh, that's actually compliments of my best friend.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
No, I said I thought of it.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
I owe my life to her.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
No, I said I thought of it.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
You didn't.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I did. I lied, I wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I did it, working out right now and slamming the door.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, I told them you thought of it, did you? Yeah?
I did? I said, I said, I said, I said,
I said I said that my I said, I said, No,
I said that I was talking about the play with
my friend and I said something and it sparked like
she had the idea to make the name of the
play this yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, yeah, So if you just want to venmo me.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
A couple of brand, a couple of couple, couple.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Dollars, a million, thousand dollars, QuickMail, all accept it. I'll
transfer the funds it on my debit card, and I'll
use it as my own name.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's a good name. I'm not going to talk about
the play yet because I'm still working on it and
I got something like a grant, so not a grant,
but I'm like a Riple effect fellow, so I don't
want to talk about stuff yet. But yeah, it's a
cool name.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I also I love finding up names, so if ever
you send any of your pursuits, are.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Like, okay, I really need a good name.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
It's a play about a xylophone player. She is a
pioneer and also like has gorgeous silver hair. Like I'll
find it, I'll find the through line. I'll give it
to you.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
So silly, Yeah, it's so silly. Is there anything that
you're excited about seeing on Broadway or off Broadway? As
any shows coming out that you're like bummed up about.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
My friend Justin Borak just just trying the corner.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
You know what show I'm really excited about. I've been
hearing really cool things. What ouly, I've been hearing mixed things,
but I'm excited to see it for myself. Is the
new Romeo and Juliette.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, I've heard that too. I want to see anything
directed by Sam Gold because it's so cool. His name
means so much to me, and in my imagination, I
think I know what that means, but I have not
seen it. Now I'm in New York, and I can
you know.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
What I want to see. What I want to see
Sunset Boulevard. But more than that, I just kind of
want to hang out in Chubert Alley one night and
watch him walk.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I'll do it. Have you wait, we get hot cocoas
and we watch him walk.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
We just we stand in Chubert Alley for three hours,
because that's what you have to do. I don't know
what happened. I think it happens at the top of active.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Watch him walk. We're respectfully far away.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
We're harmonizing, Liz Liz said, shout out Liz Liz said
that she wants to she wants us to watch shows
on different days, and when one of us is in
the theater, the other ones in Shebard Alley, and we
just like hold up a really small sign or we
try to do something to get their attention to make

(08:26):
the other person laugh, which I thought was very funny.
It'd be funny if like all of our apartment went
to go see Sunset Boulevard and one person was watching,
and three of us were in Chubert.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Alley carry something in the back could launch a sense
of Boulevard cameo challenge, kind of sick, God be on
our shoulders.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I mean, here's the thing though, the sounds of bully. Okay,
I think there's a respectful Okay, Okay, there's a respectful
way to do it, because I'm assuming everyone I's seen
the videos. I know you've seen them them, So like
I'm assuming everyone I've seen these videos of Sunset Bulevard.
I mean, by the time you're listening to this, this
is like two months into its Broadway run. It's still running.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'm pretty sure, honestly two months around that they might
not be doing it.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
No, they're still for sure doing it. It's like the
whole thing, Like, the whole thing is that there's yeah,
but there's no set like there it's literally a completely
minimalist set. The whole thing is that it's cinematography and
it's like film. Yeah, if they took out the one
thing everyone was like whoa about, it would just kind
of be a very impressive performance, but it would just
kind of be like an empty stage doing the show.

(09:22):
It's a huge part of it. So like I do
like the idea because I think there's a respectful way.
Like did you see the video of the woman like
walking and like she wouldn't get out of the way.
So there was a video. Yeah, so there's a woman
walking through Sheubert Alley and there was like someone of
film and like you see all the like crew people
behind me, like you'll get out of the way, Hey,
excuse me, please leave, and they like are well ahead

(09:43):
of him, so like they have enough time to do it.
And this woman had her headphones in was like stop.
It was like pushing the dude off of.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Her, which honestly, like if I was one of my
headphones and I'd also be like, yo, who are you
leave me alone?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, but it was like clear that she was just
like being shitty. Yeah, and then he had the dude
who's playing whatever his same as who was singing song
is like literally had to like scot by her and
it looks really uncomfortable. Yeah, I'm not super disrespectful. I
think it's very funny to be in the corner of
juniors because you can see juniors in the background of
every because he walks down and then he walks back

(10:14):
becomes the hottest, hottest, I know exactly. The table. There's
a table. There's a table on the juniors patio on
the outside corner, and if you sit on there, you
are seen every time. So in my head, I would
love to be at juniors eating and then have one
sign and then when he walks just hold up the
sign for like ten seconds and then put it down.
That's it. What is the funniest thing I could put

(10:35):
on that sign?

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Check please?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
So so stupid, I'm so dumb. What a bad idea
to check please?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Because I'm serving again. I'm like back in the biz.
I'm on the floor of restaurants again, and like I
love the culture of when your server is far away
and you want the check and everyone does it a
little bit differently. Check.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, it's it's your server. Is that different respectful to do? No?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I love it when you do that, because if you're
if I'm far away from you, I'm probably close to
the printer. Baby.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, tell me want that check? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I don't like when someone is like volatilely like waving
at me or something like that. But like if if
you can like make eye contact with me and I
know what you mean, I just I know you've been
in the business, it feels like a little check.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I'm down with it. Here's the thing. I feel like,
that's like the server equivalent of like a pianist having
feelings on like what type of music they want for
an audition. The some pianists find it disrespectful to like
you just paper someone that bound someone laminated all that stuff.
I heard servers be like, when you do this, it's
like shitty to do for me.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I mean, I guess maybe there's like a classy not
classy issue here. I don't really care. I've done it all.
But if you were to give me that little hand
motion when I'm in the middle of like dealing with
a party, that's that sucks. I can't do anything for you.
Then it's like I need you right now. Like night,
a man was waiting for a restroom, like one restroom
we had several more. I'm not going to disclose where

(11:58):
I work or anything. Yeah, and he came up to
me and he said, I want that one and I
want you to kick whoever is in there out.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Wait, you're not going to disclose where you work. I
can the Chuck E Cheese and Times Square. Okay, guys,
sh don't seriously.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I almost said the naughty I almost.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's okay, guys, Seriously, though, do you not go to
the Chucky Times Square and don't knock off the head
of the main animatron.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
I'm inside.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
You'll you'll find Erica.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
It'll scare me.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Erica will be never she's performing.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Guys, I'll be scared if you knock my head off.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
But if you need that, if you need that Chucky,
if you need Chuck E Cheese to empty the bathroom,
you can go and talk to him and knows Erica. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I'm a musician too.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Now I play a big play a big guitar with
two strings, I.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Said, big banjo. In the last episode, are you putting
it together?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
You're a music only animatronic music. That's so funny.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
You play string instruments with.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
My big hand with what with with three fingers and
two big strings, or you can play a drum set
with three drops.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
All this to say that, like in the BIS, in
the restaurant service, like the things that you can do
to annoy me is a spectrum, and you should always
know that there's someone more insane and entitled than you. Yeah,
so doing the little check e check when I'm just
kind of like walking by, like give it to me.
I got you, It's okay, I got bigger.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Fish to fry, you know what I think would be
the funniest thing to do. And sunset Boulevard in the background.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
What do you want to put on your sign?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I don't want it's not a sign.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
I'm going what are you doing in the juniors quarter?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
You know those overalls that have a butt flap like
in cartoons. Yeah, and like cartoons cartoon farmer over Yeah,
I would like quick moon the camera who would like
stand up drop my butt flap? Yeah, that's so dumber. No,
mine's funny. Mine silly and funny. Here's just dumb. You're
just dumb. But mine was very silly. And funny.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Both of them were dumb.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
No, mine was silly funny. Check please is way is
way less funny than butt flap.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
That's what if? What if I had a.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Sign I think that comes from at house culture, doesn't
I don't want to get Oh yeah, culture, I think.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
So what if I had a sign that I was
wearing sunglasses? I turned very sternly, I held it up
and it said I'm the Zodiac Killer, and I put
it back down.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
It's okay, it's okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Now, I feel like I don't even want to do
Delaware now. I just want to kind of pitch ideas
on this.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
All right, So this is one hundredth episode, one hundred
funnies smits to do in the corner patio.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh, I do like the one hundredth episode idea you had.
I thought about it. I'm not gonna say it. No, Well,
actually we can because this episode comes up. We should
way after the one hundred episode, we're like four episodes behind.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Well, let's still let's still side.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I know I'm not gonna say it, but I thought
about it more, and I do think the idea that
you had earlier is very funny.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
That's why I'm the name guy. I don't know what
i'd put on the sign.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think I'm the Zodiac Killer is funny. I think
I'm trying to think of like something like silly. I
feel like staging scenes would be funnier, like staging a proposal,
staging a murder, staging.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Like uh a murder patio of junior, like.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Four seconds, just like four seconds really quick, like wait, oh,
you know.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
You're a bit is like pantomime, like you do the
full like mime look, and then you go for like
the course of like a weekend, and you have to
go each night to see the arc of that story.
So people are paying this Broadway ticket price to see
the mime's installments.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Here's the thing. Sense of boulevard would probably be.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Pumped long form mime.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
That's it, the sense of boulevards.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Their brains just exploded.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, like wait a minute, we got a call plate.
We gotta call juniors, we gotta call juniors. We got
a call juniors, We got a call juniors. Okay, yeah,
I still can't believe they're still doing that. I can't
believe that they're like having him walk through New York
City with this camera.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I know. Yeah, it's just like but they can't not
that's the whole point, I know.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, Okay, do you want to.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Talk about Delawareware? Yeah, let's talk about Delaware.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
What do you know about Delaware?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Nothing? Okay, I know that it's Rhode Island.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
So no, but also a little I get it, so
I'm not gonna lie. It's been a minute since I
was in like, you know, fifth grade, like rocking out
the US MAP. I was like, which use of Delaware again?
Where are you at?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Delaware is small?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, it's one of the small ones. Delaware is like
how did I phrase it? It's all cozied up with
Maryland where it gets cramped and dicey. That's how I
wrote it in my notes. I'm pretty sure that you
know when we would drive to New York, and sometimes
it'd be in the middle of the night, or sometimes
i'd get lost. One of the times I was driving

(16:23):
and it was really late. I think it was when
I had to come up here and help up my sister.
I know that I was in Delaware, whoa really the
middle of the night and I was and I was
driving through I think I accidentally drove through somehow Delaware
and Philly, and I don't know if that was the
same trip, And I don't think it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I guess I don't know Delaware enough to know if
that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, I honestly, even I study Delaware, I don't know
how I did it. But Delaware, like there's a lot
of water you can cross in and out, kind of
like how in West Virginia if you're driving in a
straight line, it's like Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Maryland.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh yeah, it kind of goes yeah up in this neck.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Of the woods. Like we all know how Westward's compansion
went down. So you got these nice clean lines, you
got the four corner states. This is like colony shit, right, Yeah,
so Delaware is cozied up. It's that top part of
Maryland chunking down.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Okay. It's the second smallest state.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Besides Right Island exactly, and it's.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
The sixth least populous, right, So it's the sixth like
smallest in terms of people. However, it's the sixth most
densely populated.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Because it's so tiny.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, so it's so tiny that there's not for many
people there, but for the land mask of people ratio.
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's insane, It's dense. Delaware I've heard is really pretty.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I know. Here's the thing. When I was driving through
it probably four in the morning for reasons were last
year to move here, I was like, I wish it
was daytime so I could see it.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
My only regret about grad school is not committing to
day tripping harder. And we packed our schedules how we could.
But still the midwesterner me is like, gung ho. I'm like, yo,
you got to get in a car and drive five to.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Seven hours cars a miss car shut shout out cars.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Because I know you had no idea what was gonna caught.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Anything could have happened. Actually, anything could have happened. Anything
could have happened. Shout out car. Here's why that's gonna
be a weekly shot out.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
It's a podcast audio medium. He was so smug, He's
like sitting in this swirly chair, he's got his feet
kicked up on my bed and he smashed.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
That yellow But already did my episode shut out cars.
I already did crying. I already did I already did
my I already did Connecticut. I'm smug as hacks. I
can do whatever I want. Shout out cars, it doesn't matter.
I can do as much as I want. I know
yellows claps, I know rats, what I know yellows claps cars.

(18:46):
I know blue is Liz.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yellows for cars.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I know it's these four that I still have a guy.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
What is the wall? Right?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah? So green as a cricket, Yeah, purples cricket should
be green purples cricket. Yeah that's wrong when oranges laughs,
that's his little drum beat.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
But yellow cars, how we love driving? We love that's
what That's what this country is for. I do know
way public transit putting in more more cars.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
We need more cars. We need more lanes.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Buy a car so I can buy more road?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Can I say something? We need more lanes for the cars.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Why walk when more lanes for cars?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Why why drive when more drive?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Shout out cars? Oh man, oh all right, I'll move forward.
There's only three counties.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
More stuff about cars? No, okay, Oh I forgot what
the podcast was.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
There are three counties, three counties, yeah, three counties total
in Delaware. Yeah. In Iowa, where I grew up, there's
probably like ten counties affected at a time by a tornado.
You know what I mean? Like, that's crazy to me
because that's so little, this whole thing, this whole shebang,
thirty miles by ninety six. It's like the Central Park
of States. Do you know what I mean? It's like, oh,

(20:09):
what's that doing there?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I could move to Delaware.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
That was one of my questions. Okay, so we just
talked about Connecticut. We're talking about Delaware, Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I was going to do now, and you want to
do cars, So I'm not going to do it. I
thought you.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
He literally had to stop his hand.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I love doing bits until they're broken. I know, I
love it. It's my favorite thing, my favorite like you
know that, my favorite thing to do is to do
bits until they're they're so dad. Yeah, I like seeing
a bit come all the way around.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
We also have a lot of derivative bits.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we did so shout out cars.
I didn't do a question to you. Yeah give me it.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Say right now, you have a jabillion dollars? Okay, ai
billion gabillion. That's a jabo billion dollars? Would you rather
that's you having a bunch of money?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
That's so funny. Really, I have my own number. No, honestly,
you're a little too rich.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
So a jibillion is where I start kind of not
liking you.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Okay, so far. So if you had a jibillion, that's
not true, but a billion dollars, you would get a
lot of it.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I'd be on payroll.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, you would. You would get you would you would
not like me, you'd get on pay Because here's the thing.
If I had a billion dollars and I became like
the worst, like Jeff Bezos, I was gonna say, I'd
still coincidence, like you might not like me, I'd give
you so much money to just pretend you like.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Me the role of a lifetime exactly. Okay, listen, here's
the problem for you.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Give me the prompt.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Would you rather with your jibillions of dollars go to
a metro that's already got a theater scene and start
a company there like to say, like ten years out,
or would you rather go to like a smaller space
maybe it's Connecticut where it has some industry or whatever,
But would you rather go somewhere where there's intentionally maybe
not as much funding, not as much And would you
want to start there a smaller pace.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'd rather go to a smaller space.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Do you have one in mind?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I want to go to
Cleveland because that's where my family company. Yeah, or like
I like, I really like the Baltimore scene, and I
think they're could totally be more.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I also, I mean, like I felt I was only
there for like a week, but I loved Minneapolis. But
I think there's a lot of theater already in Minneapolis
compared to you some money, no, I know, but compared
to like Cleveland, or compared to like like Baltimore, but
only than I feel like both have like two or
three spots. But here's the thing, though, I really want
to go to a place that has like no theater
and like bring it there, but it has to be
like an there has to be some type of audience.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Do you remember that era when I kept sending you
abandoned churches on Facebook marketplace? Yeah, and they were so cheap.
And strip clubs there's a lot of also strip.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Abandoned strip clubs and abandoned Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
It'd be cool if I had your JA billion bucks.
If I'm on payroll and I'm getting ten percent of
your Ji billion.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Ten percent is a lot I think i'd give you,
like if I had if I had a billion dollars,
i'd probably.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Give you ju billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Are you doing Are you doing anything for me? Like
are you are you working for me? Or are you
just like hey man, I deserve some of that money
and I was putting you on payroll? Is giving you
money to just be you? I'd probably give you ten
million a year without even thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, I'd give you a million a year.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I would want to start like an endowment or like
grant funding to like just.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Give you ten million.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's so funny. Yeah, thank you. To turn like old
and abandoned, you know, like places that could be on
historic societies and stuff like that, but like old in
abandoned like Victorian homes, churches, strip clubs. I do not
care old movie theaters, And I'd want to revitalize in
rural areas using those spaces to make theaters there.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
And you'd also need to invest in real estate because
I think like nine out of ten times people can't
go there and work professionally because there's nowhere for them
to live.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Oh you know, what I would do if I had
a billion dollars, I'd buy apartment in New York.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
But and that's the teal button.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
So God.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Moving forward. Colonized by the Dutch, this is not a bit.
That's my next note.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
You always do the sad history of every state you have.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
I think it's important. Here's the thing. I agree, it's
United States of plays. I don't want that to be
mistaken for any sort of like blanket patriotism on my heart,
and I think that when you look at art like
it's important to know that. So it's a real overview,
especially because it's a smaller state. But originally right it
gets colonized by the Dutch. There's already the Lenappe people
and the Manucoke people there. That would change over time,

(24:16):
even the Dutch would have to square up against other colonizers.
So there's conflict between colonizers and indigenous people, Indigenous people
and indigenous people, colonizers and colonizers, and eventually it moves
forward and not connec cut your Connecticut and Delaware ends
up participating in the American Revolution against Britain. So lots
of conflict, but they don't move forward. And it is

(24:38):
the first state to ratify the constitution, which earned the
nickname the first State, even though way back when the
Declaration of Independence was happening, a lot of people weren't
as for it just because they were kind of benefiting
from it more than others. The kind of colonization into
like more modern or like kind of early US history
is like indentured servants working the land into slave labor, right,

(25:00):
I kind of classic stuff there. H. Delaware also benefited
really greatly from World War One.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Wait, sorry, kinds the question. Yeah, what's like the big
city of Delaware.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
The big city of Delaware is the capital's Dover, but
Wilmington seems to be the place where a lot of
the theaters are. In terms of like pospulation.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Rhode Island is super tiny, but right Island has Providence.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, so like ranking number one in population is Wilmington,
but that's not the capital. It just has so no
city in I keep wanting to call it Rhode Island.
Delaware has breaks over one hundred k.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, there's like just not very many people there. So
Wilmington is the biggest city, that's where a lot of
theater is. It's got a population of about seventy thousand. Dover,
the capital after that, has about forty. There's a new
Wark there, not New Jersey's other Newark, that's about thirty k. Right,
So like the top ten cities, the tenth city on
that list has eleven thousand people. There's just oh my god,
there's just not a lot happening in terms the population.

(25:58):
But you still have to remember they're all smashed in
there still. So that's interesting to me.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
It's like big, little small town.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
So Delaware they benefit a lot from World War One
because a very very very prominent, very wealthy family is
the DuPont family, and that is a gunpowder producing in
Oh yeah, so DuPont Oh yeah, the DuPonts, the DuPonts,
as we all know, they are based in Delaware. We're
gonna talk more about that. But Delaware benefits from World

(26:27):
War One because during that they were producing about forty
percent of all of the gunpowder used, not just by
America but all of the Allied countries. Oh my god,
Delawares made a gunpowder classic Delaware Classic Delaware. I didn't
know about that. That's very interesting to me. Also, some
kind of factoids because I really like looking into universities.

(26:48):
When I'm doing this, a lot of our listeners are younger.
I think that's important to talk about, like what are
your options, what are you looking at?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh? Yeah, pursing out.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
The University of Delaware back in nineteen forty eight admitted
its first black student, and because of that, there was
like a kind of huge influence moving into what would
become the Supreme Court's decision on Brown versus Board of Education.
So them kind of doing that kind of started that early.
They had their local courts ruling at primary schools should
be integrated. And while that was still kind of early,

(27:15):
it did still take until nineteen seventy to close that
last segregated school. Right, A lot of history of white
flight going on in Delaware, interesting stuff if you want
to look into that further, especially, I think because geographically
it's so small, so like when it's that tiny, your
white flight into the suburbs is just it's different than
the spread of other places. The other interesting thing about Delaware,

(27:36):
and this is one of the only things I had
heard of, but I really didn't know anything about it.
I did a very light research on it, is that
Delaware is a corporate haven. Okay, so I've just explained
to you how small Delaware is. Right, over three fifths
of Fortune five hundred companies are legally incorporated in Delaware,
and over ninety percent of all US based companies that

(27:57):
went public like in twenty twenty one, is fact, but
like still ninety percent are incorporated in Delaware. So you
have this thirty mile by one hundred mile patch of
land cramped up in the top of Maryland and it's
where the majority of companies and corporations are based out of.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
That's insane and.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
So I'm like, Okay, why is that happening?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
And there's like tax breaks and stuff, and it's close
enough to put.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, So when you look into it, a lot of
the articles you're going to read are articles by you know, CNBC,
whose parent company, Comcast is obviously edquartered out of Delaware,
or you know Fortune five hundred wants to or.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
For guess it's also close to Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
So all of these companies that are like putting out
articles of like hey guys, like here's the really normal
ways that like this is why we're doing it, because
you know how like the way that you would talk
about like putting your money in the Cayman Islands or
these offshore accounts. Like there's this kind of like banking
culture of like sleaziness that we just accepted in our country.
So I'm like, what the hell's gone on in Delaware?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Right?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
A lot of the articles and things you can read
about it are put out by companies that are like
having Delaware, right, So it's like, what's really going on?
So I started kind of looking at stuff. There's this
this article on CMBCC. It was like from last year.
It's by Charlotte Morribido and she's talking to someone in
Roy Gilberg, who is a corporate counselor for someone called

(29:15):
Legal Zoom, and it's like, oh, you know. One of
Delaware's advantages is that it's got this Court of Chancery,
which is a separate court system specifically for handling corporate cases.
So essentially, when you're headquartered in Delaware, if you get sued,
if anything happens, there's just like such precedent for dou
process for legal stuff. So it's just really widely known
and respected in business and legal communities because all of

(29:38):
the rules out of everywhere in the world are super
developed in Delaware, and this person is quoted as saying,
when you want to go global and you've incorporated in Canada,
knowing no one's going to look at you at all.
They're like Delaware though, protects us, the entrepreneurs and also
the investors. So like the idea that these people in
Canada are like anyone who's anyone knows that you're incorporating

(29:59):
in Delaware. It's like that SNL bit about like the club. Yeah,
kind of crazy. But again, all of these articles I
was reading were people who were based out of Delaware.
So I keep looking into it, and it's the taxes. Yeah,
it's the number one issue is that there is no
corporate income tax from Delaware if you do business in
another state.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
It's also not paying you guys. Yeah, they're not paying
their tax.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's also like a perfectly good hub for like between
New York and DC, and like you're near a lot
of hubs, like.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
People have never gone to Delaware yeah, and they won't.
And the real estate behind that is also really shitty,
so you have a lot of like po box corporation
stuff like that. So anyway, very interesting. There's non residents
are paying no income tax personal income tax, either as
well as the corporate tax. And there's also no Delaware
taxes on any of the stock for non Delaware residents,
so it's just it's a tax thing.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Anyway, if you're thinking to incorporate, you're probably gonna want
to do it in Delaware.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Hey. But to me as like you heard of your
first your favorite business podcast play Delaware.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
But to me, like as someone who doesn't know anything
about anything in that capacity, even I was like a
Delaware A lot of people do business in Delaware, right,
that's where that's coming from. It's taxes. Yeah, So as
you were talking about, we've been talking about kind of
commuter cities. Wilmington, which is that more populated city. It's
not the capital Dover. That one is a huge economic
hub because it's between commuting distance of Philly and Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Oh yeah, near Philly too, it's perfect and Baltimore exactly.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
So again, like if you want to open a theater
company and then incorporate it, maybe go to Delaware and
then just drive all around.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Well that is kind of true. For real, Wilmington might
be a really hot spot for theater. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, of all of all of the theaters that I
looked into the majority were in Wilmington of professional theaters total,
Like in Delaware, we're only looking at like a million people. Yeah,
it's not a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
We live in a city with more than that.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, we live in a burrow.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
So Delaware also stick on my feet, Hey, do a handshake?
I know, I know. Shout out cars, shoutout corporate tax
has I love the sounds go on top of each other,
bike on. Okay, So Dela were also is like this
awesome cultural hub, right. I looked into some of the
fairs that are there. They've got Riverfest which is held
in Seaford, which seems like something I would write in

(32:10):
a teen novel, but it's real. Have you heard of this?
The world Championship punkin Chunkin Contest? Why you didn't see it? Okay?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
This is like maybe like insane thing. Have you heard
of this and the most specific thing in the world
punkin Chunkin?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Let me tell you about it because I think you'll remember,
like probably, like I don't know, ten or fifteen years ago.
This did go viral. It's that competition where they catapult
pumpkins really far into like a field.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Did this not hit you? No?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Oh god, no, not the crickets. Did you get punkin
punkin Chunkin's?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
This is not something popular. I don't think anyone else
has heard it.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I feel like I remember when those videos came out
and they build a catapult and it's a competition to
see how far you can catapult a pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Playby's get in the comments heard in October it's punkin
chunkins In. What is punkin Chunkin?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah? P u n k I n h n k.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
This isn't something popular.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's been since like the eighties.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Okay, but make it popular?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Is that both Beach? Okay?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Just say stop?

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Wait, Actually, I don't think that's a real both Beach.
I think that's where the Chocolate Festival is so funny.
Speaking of the chocolate festival, shoot wow okay Jazz Festival.
There's the Apple Scrapple Festival. Look, Delaware loves festivals that
you should move.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Here just because of the naming system.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
The Hoboth Beach Jazz Festival. There's the Sea Witch Halloween Festival.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
See which Halloween pestols on sick.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Look, there's a lot of If you like festivals, if
you like tax breaks, wait, you don't want to get
to Delaware, see which.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Tell me put a a geographical location in front of
a monster and trying to make it sick. See which?
Wait what desert mummy?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Oh yeah, I see I see you, I see you.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Okay forest, No, I'm trying to think of something good.
See which is really good. It made me like very excited.
I could see like the blue and the creepiness.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Okay, I'm trying to work dragon bit out.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Oh, Dragon's good. Yeah, pond dragon Lake dragon like dragon Lake.
Dragon's good.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
It feels like a like a lockness monster kind of
like yeah, kind of remixing it.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, I remixed.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I like it?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
All right, go on.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
You wonder the fact that I think you're gonna like
most about Delaware. Goot man, it was one of the
first states to legalize sports betting.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh. I thought you're gonna say something about cars. But
that's even bad.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
But you can still you can pot sports.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
You love sports betting, I love sports bettle. Sports Sports
betting is one of my favorite things in the world.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
He likes it a lot.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I like it more than more than anything. All right,
let's talk about college let's talk more about sports betting.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
So this is not a big state.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I think Ohio State's gonna have a good year. Sorry going, I.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Think so too.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Hell yeah, nice.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Not a huge state. So there's not a ton of schools. Yeah,
but of the schools that there are, I wanted to
pull up some like kind of quick facts of places
that people are going to go to learn there.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, University of Delaware is that one of them? Dude,
Dover University is that one of them?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Dover. I don't think there's a Dover universe.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm just saying stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
There was a lot of colleges that had no theater programs.
Those were a lot of like more technical schools, like
they have a dedicated law school. There's two big ones,
and I'm going to explain the names to them. They
make sense to me because I'm from a state that
has this too. There's Delaware State University and there's University
of Delaware.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
The Iowa version would be Hawkeys and Cyclones, right.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, Ohio State, there's there's the Ohio State University, and
then there's the University of Ohio.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yes, So Delaware State University offers a theater arts minor,
and I was kind of like a bummer, just a minor.
But then I looked into their curriculum because I like
clicking around on the internet, and it's actually a pretty
banger curriculum. You start with acting, then you do acting
or directing, you do history of theater and play production,
and then you get to pick electives. Their electives are

(35:55):
like children's theater, theater criticism, British and American drama, player,
modern drama, all sorts of stuff. But then they also
have a different that was in practical and applied theater.
They also have a theater minor specifically for theoretical and
literary theater, which for a minor is so highly specialized.
Like that course is like theater criticism into black drama,
into Shakespeare, into history of theater, into more electives.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
That's so sick.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
So say you're someone who's like, no, like I want
to be a dramatic I'm not an actor. I don't
want to build sets. Like if you're getting a minor
at the University of or yeah, University of Delaware, no,
Delaware State University. You can actually narrow down, which I
thought was kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, moving on, DC sounds.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Fire, it is fire. University of Delaware it's ranked pretty
highly in the country. It's like like within the top
fifty typically for US also has options. They've got their
undergrad program, but they also have some major. Yeah, they
have a major, but they also have some really specific
miners as well, which I'm like, Delaware, what are you
up to Delaware? Yeah, so at University of Delaware you

(36:57):
can get normal things like a dance minor. You could
get like a theater studies minor, like if you're maybe
tagging in on something else. But there's also a musical
theater minor. Oh s, there's a performance minor and a
production minor. But then this is one I have never
seen before. There's a healthcare theater minor.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
And it's a really unique interdisciplinary program helping healthcare professionals
develop communication skills through interactive scenarios. And I've always heard
of that as like a great side hustle. Both in
college and out of school. As an actor, you train
with sometimes police officers or social workers or hospitals. That's
really normal. I've done it before for law classes. I

(37:36):
pretended to be someone who is suing a pet storre.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Oh, yeah you told me about that, which is crazy.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
I have to memorize, like a forty page dossier about
who I was. I only did it once and I
still remember everything about her, and it's I can't flush
it out anyway. That's University of Delaware. It's super cool.
They also have some graduate options, which, as far as
I know, that is the one place to do graduate
theater in Delaware. They've got an MFA an acting, MFA player, writing,
MFA design. Yeah, interesting stuff there. But the other really

(38:06):
cool thing to know about University of Delaware, and this
is that kind of Yukon thing, that kind of WU
thing that we like, is that it's also home to
the Resident Ensemble Players, which is called REP. It's the
it's about fifteen years old professional company that is aligned
with them, So it is a professional company. They bring
people in right now, they're doing like what the Constitution
means to me, complay works with William Shakespeare, Misery King Lear.

(38:29):
But the cool thing I saw on their website is
that they try and line up their seasons to support
the curriculum that they're teaching to their students. Sick so
like say, you know, it's a big semester for Shakespeare
or something like that. That's what they're trying to do.
And I think that that was you yeah, really thoughtful
and cool.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
That is dope.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
So that's just kind of like your quick highlights of
like the big the big schools. To know if you're
thinking about considering that, I will say the biggest theater
company that I looked into that really really pops up
is the Delaware Theater Company. So they're based out of Wilmington. See, yeah,
you know it DTC.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I love abbreviating things.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's in Wilmington, right, it's got that funding from the
National domen of the Arts.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
So love it.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
We love it. It's it was born out of the
you know, like regional theater movement in the seventies when
professional theaters are popping up all over, but this one
kind of survived. This one is it talks about how,
like a lot of those companies when they were popping
up this on their website, they were finding abandoned properties,
like we talked about turning them in to performance spaces,
and in nineteen seventy nine they found its first home

(39:28):
in an old firehouse, which I think is super super
that's sick.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, there's a a U A Theater Minneapolis.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, mixed blood is based on.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Arehouse talking about them.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah, I'm nostalgic for that. I think that's really cool.
That's why we should buy a church on Facebook marketplace anyway. Yeah,
eventually it moves forward and it moves to a riverfront property.
But that's a very cool arc. Since nineteen seventy nine,
they've had over two hundred and twenty main stage productions.
They've also had over one hundred thousand people moved through
their education and community engagement programs.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Yeah, outside of the epas that they do at Delaware
Theater Company, which you should check out, you can also
on their website join a database for year round casting
considerations through a link online. It doesn't sound like maybe
that's like the most guaranteed way forward, but the fact
that it exists at all was kind of refreshing to
me and not something i'd seen so especially like we
have some friends that just moved to Philly. If you're

(40:19):
in any of those commuter areas, just get on that roster. Yeah,
get on that roster just in case, go to the EPA.
But if you can't, like it does not hurt to
spend five minutes like putting your name in front of someone.
And then also Delaware Theater Company has some like very
cool community programs that I wanted to run by real quick.
One is called TAP. It's the Totally Awesome Players. It

(40:39):
was established in nineteen ninety two and it's this ensemble
that was founded to kind of helped with creative and
collaborative skills for adults who have intellectual disabilities. They meet
weekly and they create right right and rehearse and perform plays.
Super cool. I really really like when companies do that.
It's not something you see a lot, but when I

(40:59):
see people like actually having community programs more so than
like maybe the standard like you can put your kid
in a camp for X amount of dollars for summer
daycare vibes, I just think that's real laz. And then
they also have the Delaware Young Playwrights Festival, and so
that's super cool. If you're in high school in Delaware,
you should very very much be pursuing that if you're
someone who wants to move into writings. But then this

(41:21):
last thing I saw I also hadn't seen many places,
and it's that they offer playwriting services to seniors and
so they have a partnership Delaware theater company is partnered
with this place called Angle Side Retirement Apartments and it's
the play Writing for Seniors program. It now has spread
to other facilities as well. But these participants meet once

(41:41):
a week for ten to fifteen weeks and they write
their own original plays drawn from their own life histories.
And because they're reflecting on their own lives in that way,
it's thought that it really helps them with cognitive retention,
it helps them kind of like connect with their loved ones,
and it's just this really really cool thing that they
think is kind of a dodle to like despair, depression

(42:02):
and the things that are precursors essentially to dementia. Yeah,
they perform them for their friends and family. I just like, again,
a lot of theater companies who are like our community.
How many mission statements do we read with so many betords?
But for a theater company to be like, I'm helping
out you high school students, I'm helping out my my
folks who are disabled, I'm helping out my folks who
are struggling with dementia. Like that's very cool, that's so

(42:24):
meaningful to me.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah. Yeah, So again, what's their season? M M is
there season like, pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Let me pop it up?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, they got kinky boots. Pop up the season it up? Wait,
pop up up. We justidn't pop it up.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
We should say pop it up until it turns into
a different word, pop it up, hot up.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
This is what it's like to be to record for
three hours every Sunday morning. We art recording, right, yeah,
thank god, No we haven't been recording.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Start from the top right, every brilliant thing.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Home for the Holidays, okay, Tuesdays with Maury Nice stomping
at the Savoy Nice altogether now, oh yeah, fun and
again like it's a where it's like it's yeah, it's
a professional company. They want to bring you there, they
want to pay you, they want to.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Bring the can't say something. I love that theater companies
are doing kinky boots now, yeah, because like it's finally
like out like like the tours are kind of slowing
up and like you're able to do them. It's just
such a fact. Have you ever seen it?

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I haven't. It's so I've seen I've seen like some videos.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
But it's such a fun show and I'm really excited
to see how it does regionally. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
I have a question for you at the Kodak Theater. Yeah,
what community, which programs.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Which you see?

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Oh, Core Act Theater.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
We're not a camera.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
I'm not gonna lie it autocorrected to Kodak in my notes.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
That sucks.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
I'm making it a word. Remember spelling.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
At the Card Theater.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
What I think an in turn was to blame for that.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Get back in the corner.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Someone needs a lashing.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Get back in the corner.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Don't look me in the eye.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
There's so many of them. I ever tell you that.
Over the summer, people were texting me through it, and
we had recorded everything really early on people were texting
me being like this internship bit is killing me really,
like I think a funny way. Like everybody was like,
was like, this is how it felt to be internet,
A little theater feels I'm glad. I'm glad we're feel good.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Sometimes it feels bad.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I'm glad that I said. You don't get to laugh.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
No T shirts.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
You got one big T shirt every year. That's it.
Get in your corner, put yours, put on your tighty,
your rags, put on your rags. Back in the corner.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Anyway, at the correct theater. What community at rich programs
are you?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Like, we gotta have these, we have to help the interns. No, okay,
the next one, You're right, that's on me. God, it's
brought up in one meeting. I got fired.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Oh look at my community outreach, like I think obviously
summer camps like classes for.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
You, Oh for sure, super popular. That's a good question
me that this.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Idea of of partnering with like senior living centers, the
living like that.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, at the core. I also my mom. Shout out Tracy.
I'm not going to give her a bunks on the podcast,
but I love her. And here's the thing. Shout out sacoon,
but shout out but also shout out my momble mention
Tracy Chacy. My mom is a wound care nurse, and
she talks about like the hardest days in the hospital,

(45:27):
Like she's taking care of people who have lost a limb.
She's taking care of people who have massive, massive wounds
in their body. I would love to I forget what
state it was, but a few states ago, I remember
talking about a theater company that started an improp troop
that would go to hospitals and like create content for

(45:47):
like for them specifically to like kind of like make
them feel better something that involves like extreme wound care
or I see us something of a people that are
at their lowest.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Children Like, yeah, exactly, you're stuck in a place.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, I didn't that'd be really cool. I personally thought
like bringing in improv troupe to children's hospitals, Like, whoa,
that could be like a little overwhelming. So I kind
of like the idea of mashing that together with the
retirement home idea that DTC does and being like, how
can we bring playwriting into these like younger kids stories
the kind of instead of looking at these using it

(46:21):
to kind of, I don't know, look into memory and
stuff with these like older people going through dementia, kids
who have all this time on their hands and are
maybe at their lowest points at a place that I
don't understand. And I'm twenty eight and they're like eight
or nine or eleven. Yeah, like bringing them like maybe
actual playwrights and like giving them like actual workshops and
helping them like even just write the shortest little stories

(46:44):
might bring a little joy. So yeah, yeah, something like
that would be really cool.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Gave me this like memory flashback. I haven't thought of
in years. I was very close with my great grandmother,
which is super cool. Not everyone. Yeah, and I I
remember the senior facility she was living at, Like my
grandma was like she said what she said, you know,
a very straight shooter type, especially the older she got,
she was like she would just say things. It was

(47:08):
kind of awesome. And a lot of the a lot
of the events in programming that's catered towards seniors, at
least I don't know in our country country that I've
been exposed to. And I think there's a lot of
reasons why. Like I don't want to say that it's
like patronizing, but it's like it's your bingo, it's your this,
it's your that. It's like these certain activities that like
sometimes I think as you get older, you circle back
to this like childhood state, and so a lot of

(47:30):
it is catered to that, but not the moments before that.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
And so I remember my great grandma. This is before
she had, you know, her certain health problems that would
cause her to decline. Like there's this woman that would
come in. I think it's okay that I say this.
I don't think there's ever going to be cross over,
but she would like wear overalls and play guitar to
like people who are lonely, which like seems really nice, right,
But my great grandma was like not at that state yet.
And so I'm was visiting her and this woman came

(47:54):
in like, I'm here with my guitar. I'm gonna sit
on your couch and sing at you. And my grandma
was like, who are you You get out and she
was like no, it's okay, Like I'm gonna sing for you,
and she was like, I do not want that. That's
so funny because at the same time, I was like, yeah,
if I was like chilling in my apartment and someone
a stranger walked in with a guitar, I was like,
all right, I'm gonna look at you and sing like

(48:16):
some sort of really nice I'd also be like, oh.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Get out, get out of my house, go away.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
But at a certain point, also that is stimulating, that
is social, So at a certain point that does help you.
I think, like finding.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
God, that would be your hell if you if you
opened your door and I hired a guy to just
be sitting on the couch playing guitar.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I don't even like it when the like exterminator man comes,
I'm like, I don't want anyone in my house. Yeah,
I don't want to get out of my house.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Do you think that's very funny? Though? Here's the thing.
If I ever wanted to prank you, that's the best
way to do. Just hire a guy to sit on
the couch and play guitar all no, and I'll tell
me yeah, me Christian Liz, I'll say, literally, pretend he's
not even get out of my house. Literally, pretend he's
not there, all three of.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Us, Like, what are you talking about, dude, that's my
imaginary man that sits on the couch.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Something.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
I mean, there's always like gap in between what people
want and then what they end up needing. And so
this idea of like they're using play arting with seniors
for that moment before and to stave off dementia, because
at a certain point, someone's sitting next to you and
singing to you when you're lonely is what you want
to need. Yeah, but there's also the insane with people
who are in the hospital right dealing with despair and

(49:19):
dealing with the unknowns, Like, I don't know, the idea
that you're using creativity to help people process, not perform
at them, but to engage with them. That's what these interesting.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
That's like community engagement. And I think like a lot
of people, a lot of theater companies claim to have
community engagement, and it's relatively they're just like sounds like
DTC really does like engage with their community, which is
really really cool.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
I'm so into it. Okay, cool. Good for Another one
that popped up in Wilmington is the Candle Light Theater.
It has a really fun history, Like the venue itself.
The venue began as something called the Harvey Barn, and
then in the thirties it was the robin Hood Theater,
and then it became a summer stock theater until like
the mid sixties. It's it was a dinner theater after

(50:03):
the mid sixties, and it opened with a production of
The Funny Thing Happened to the Way to the Forum.
It eventually became a nonprofit in the two thousands, and
they offer summer camps master classes. And this is what
I mean about like the timing of our podcast. I'm
going to show you their season and know that they
have auditions starting as we record this tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
This episode doesn't come out too much.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
And in my research, I'm like, oh my god, it's tomorrow.
I know because their season for twenty twenty five starts
in January. So the audition that's tomorrow, it's for something
Rotten and that shows up in January. We saw that
show together, Yeah, we did for Time with You, So
they're doing something rotten. Bright Star, Escape to Margaritaville, Rag
Time called Christmas by Candlelight. Yes, they're doing absolute bangers.

(50:50):
They have auditions coming up. They do not offer housing,
but again this is commuter friendly.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
If you're in Delaware or Baltimore or Philly in those
places you might be able to do.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Yeah, so keep you know, can't light in mind on that.
They give me like good breakdowns. It's pretty sweet. They
give information about like their pay that they're like thirty
minutes outsie of Philadelphia. They do like three to five
performances a week, and they do that kind of additional
restaurant opportunities thing that people do oh sick. Yeah, so
that's pretty cool. And then next up that I wanted
to talk about is this place called the Milton Theater.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Oh yeah, I know, Milton.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
It's in Milton. Are you joking?

Speaker 1 (51:20):
No, I literally do. I was in callbacks for their
rent two years ago. But really, yeah, I was. I
was auditioning. I'm pretty sure you were. You were in
the slab when I was doing my callbacks for Mark Had. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure you're doing bits like that.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
I think so, Yeah, because I was really big on
doing rent bits like that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, dude, I was.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
I was.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
I've been in callbacks for Milton a couple times.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
That's cool. Yeah, shout out Milton.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Shout out Milton Theater. Follow through on justin, Yeah, exactly,
get an.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Of these days. They have a kind of a cool
history too. On their website, they have this like timeline.
So it was originally this place called the Fox Theater,
and it was owned and operated by one of the
first female theater managers in the US, a woman named
Ida Fox oh Wich. Fox name happens to also be
a perfect bur lest name.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Oh it is a good burlest name, Isa Fox. Out
of Fox is a great out of Fox is a
goodrag name too.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
It's really good. It had a capacity to tiny theater.
This is like it opened in like nineteen fourteen. By
nineteen thirty nine, it had like a capacity of like
four hundred. It's like for then it's like super big. Right,
A storm hits and Milton is like three feet underwater.
This is in like the sixties, right. A family takes
over the Scott family. Eventually it again turns into a

(52:30):
nonprofit in early two thousands. It gets new owner or
a new owner in management in twenty fourteen and they
start with like banging out shows really fast. They make
a lot of upgrades to their buildings yep, so it's historic.
Eventually they start adding on outdoor spaces, and then in
twenty twenty one they began leasing a property which is

(52:52):
their house that they use for artists, housing for people
to live in. And the pictures I just want to
show you real quick, like that little house and the theater.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Look, that's so cute.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I only have my one wretched night drive through Delaware,
but a lot of the theaters I'm talking about and
the places I'm seeing have like the quaintest old little architecture.
Super super cool. Anyway, there's lots of programming, there's stuff
going on at their outside venue, their in house productions.
They've got summer camps, They've got all sorts of stuff
coming on and then they also have auditions coming up
as well for Bear, a pop opera.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Oh, they're doing Heathers I think right now. I could
be wrong, but I thought they were doing Heavy.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
I think they are. But this is the next kind
of open call that they're doing. The rehearsals for it
will be in April, and you can send you know
their stuff to them via email, which is super awesome.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Sweet.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Yeah, they're seeking on ion actors. Check it out again.
I love a website where the company just kind of
tells you what they need. Very accessible. The Delaware Children's
Theater also came up as being very popular right now.
They're auditioning for Once Upon a Mattress. Yeah, I know,
And I want to find a picture of their building
because it's also look at this building.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Shut up. That's it's so cute. That's so cute.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Still, we're absolutely popping off with really cute buildings popping off.
Another one that came up is my gosh, Clear Space
Theater Company.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
I know Clear Space too, Okay, and their.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Season is actually dumb. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Eric from WVU works, they're old Home.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Oh really yeah, okay, shout out Eric.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Clear Space Theater Company is in Rehoboth Beach, Love It,
Love It. Let me walk you through their twenty twenty
five season. Right now, they're doing Sweeney Todd. But this
is just twenty twenty five. It's I'm going to talk
for a while. You ready, Yeah, Dialum for Murder, everybody's
talking about Jamie, Oklahoma, Beetlejuice Junior, Spring Awakening, Fire and

(54:38):
Sellar Care, Spray Beautiful, the Carol King Musical, Rent Potus,
Read for Madness, Annie, and finally a Christmas Carol.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
That is so many plays, so many And they're housing
people are doing Jamie. Yeah, they're doing everybody's talking about
Jaimie February to March of twenty twenty five. Yeah. And
they do subscription prices for students. It's almost half off
of what the normal pricing is, so you could go
and see all of these shows for like one hundred
and seventy bucks.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
That's crazy, which is.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Actually like a very very good deal. If you're someone
who is close or if you're.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Close and you're like, I want to go see all
these shows, that's a great deal.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
That's a really good deal. Also, speaking of like community
outreach programs, they offer this class again a thing I've
never heard of. It's called Babies on Broadway. And they're like, look,
we're trying to serve everybody, like we're serving kids and adults,
all these people. This is a class for three to
six year olds, for three to six year olds to
get a taste of what it's like to be on stage.

(55:36):
They'll learn songs, dances, as well as poems and short
scenes from popular movies and Broadway shows. And then they
also get a chance to make a cost and piece
or prop for their show, and they perform it for
their family and friends. Can you imagine a three year
old being like, because I knew you and they like
made their hat. Babies on Broadway maybe the coolest thing

(55:56):
I've ever heard of. It's actually kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Baby's on Broadway.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Babies on Broadway.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
That sounds like a really funny play. It sounds like
kind of like Babes Broadway.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
It sounds like a skeedch but like, I'm not making
fun of it. I think that's very cool.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, I think it's really cool.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Okay, sweet, So Babies.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
On Broadway does sound like an SMLS.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Guy, I've got like three more theaters I want to
shout out, and I pick these ones because they're popular
and they have something kind of cool and relevant about them.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
City Theater Company. They're called Delawares Off Broadway.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
They're also in Wilmington, Wilmington, as what do I do?

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Actually cities off Broadways off Broadway. You guys can't see it,
but it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
It was really really, really really good. Delawar's Delawares off
broad No, that's not what it's called. City Theater Company,
which isla off Broadway in Wilmington. They offer they're kind
of like seems like the biggest kind of like improv theater.
They do Fearless Improv, which does like developmental workshops for
companies and stuff like that. Right now, they also have
Spring Awakening cooking up. It seems like a really popular one.

(56:53):
Their website is really good, like like their website makes
me feel like I know the people who work there.
I'm showing justin the screen.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Oh that's cool.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yeah, yeah, which is it's hard to explain. I don't
know something about web design for theaters, Like it does
matter to me a lot, ye as someone who needs
to update their website. It's tough. But yeah, they're very
very cool. Their commitments, their artistic statements and stuff are
really awesome. A cool place to check out. Again, it's
in Wilmington, so if you're in Wilmington, you can be
checking out a lot of places. There's Chapel Street Players

(57:22):
that's in Newark and it's a non professional theater company. Right,
it's a community theater, but it's been running for over
seventy five years. They do about four main stage shows
a season, with a summer fundraiser and a one act showcase.
Chapel Street Players also does a twenty four hour playwriting festival,
which is super cool. Yeah, so you can audition to
be in it, you can write for it. It's super awesome.

(57:42):
I think that's like a really sweet activity to do
besides just you know, putting out shows. And then the
last one I'm going to talk about is Wilmington Drama League. Okay,
let me read you a little chunk of their kind
of history page because it's quirky. I also want to say,
before we jump in the Wilmington Drama League, like claims
Aubrey plaza as, Like, yeah, we keep Aubrey Plaza her

(58:03):
start like she got her taste to theater. What, Yeah,
pate clauses from Delaware. Oh that better not be a
truth exactly. We got the bidens, we got Aubrey Plaza.
That's it, guys. It's snow plays set here. There's a
musical set here that I could find. I tried.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
That's very cool though.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Okay, so listen to this. In the late nineteen twenties,
a loose group of Delawareans begins to meet in each
other's homes to read plays and perform for each other's
calling themselves the Wilmington Drama League. The members soon make
a proposition to share their fun and enthusiasm with a
live audience in a real theater. After some hat passing,
they build a rickety stage at the Old Lee's in Wilmington.

(58:41):
They begin to rehearse their first play, and it opens
on December thirteenth, nineteen thirty three, with and it Says
in True the show must go on fashion. Two audience
members were recruited to fill in for snowballed actors. So
in nineteen thirty three, two people got snowed in and
they were like, you know what, we gotta do it anyway,
And they pulled to people from the audience to be
in the play.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Oh my god, that's.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
The first paragraph of their history.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Here's the next part. By the late nineteen thirties, right,
we've progressed. Yeah, after too many wobbly coat racks cause
pile ups, and one fire escape is carried away by
a train. I do think that's literal. It is clear
the league needs a new home. Mortgage money is unavailable,
but that doesn't stop them. They raise sixty grand and
break ground on a building that remains their home to
this day. Still challenges continue for the league. A production

(59:27):
of Journey's End comes to a fitting night, it comes
to a fitting closing. Here we Go comes to a
fitting closing night finale when the entire set collapses. And
in the summer of nineteen forty five, a terrible storm
during a production led to the unfortunate nickname the drama
Leak Theater.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Thanks to a grant funded roof replacement, that is no
longer a problem. Look that's the first three paragraphs of
their history. I have never in my life seen a
theater like actually like spill their own tea and be like, look.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
That's freaking awesome.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
We've been trying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
We've been like the third trying forever.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
It's so funny to me, and like I say all
of this in a way like it endears me. The
idea that they're like, oh yeah, the drama leak because
at that time, like the roof caved in and a
set got smashed in the forties.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
That's crazy, so.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Funny to me. Also, you can you can is this
one where you can audition? Yeah, you can audition here,
not audition, but you can submit as a director year round.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Oh so they have on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Their website like a calling all directors thing and you
can just complete a form and send it into their
email and that's just like a year round thing they
have open that switch. Maybe that exists other places and
I didn't know about it, but as someone i've never
heard it direct for Yeah, you can kind of shoot
your shot whenever, which I think is really awesome. But
wait a minute, let's talk about the shows they're doing. Okay,

(01:00:50):
and then I'm gonna pitch you one final question. All right,
you can only be in one of these shows, and
so can I love to pick Okay, this is their
season for twenty four to twenty five. Yeah, carry the
musical Curious Incident of the Dog in the night time.
My god, five lesbians eating a kish nice Mary Poppins,
the full Monty. They're one act festival that they do
Tick tick Boom, I hate Hamlet, Tracy Letz's Bug and Hairspray.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Oh my gosh, I bang, it's really really good. Yeah,
so what do you pick?

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
I'm picking Bug. I never see that play done.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
That's hard. That's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Wellington Drama League is just casually doing this play and
may have twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
What was the play before I hate Hamlet? It was
Tic Tick Boom, Ta tick Boom'd probably did Tictic.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
That's I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Yeah, I love that musical. I I feel like I
really want to be I wanted to be in that show.
I would love to be in Tic Tic Boom. Yeah.
So that's one though too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
I know Carrious fun too. It's it's really really good
seasons honestly, like all of the theaters that I looked
into in Delaware, Like, I think maybe because and this
is why I kind of like do like go on
about Yeah, the state itself at the beginning of my episodes.
I think it has to do with how small it
is in a place that is small and densely populated
like New York, like Delaware in your seventy thousand city,

(01:02:04):
that feels bigger because that's the biggest city there, right,
Like when you are engaging with your community, like you
have to walk that walk because they're right there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
And so all of the theaters that I found and
wanted to shut out, they have amazing seasons where people
like you and me want to go audition for these
really cool niche shows and also like they're going to
sell season tickets.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
And they have amazing community out reach programs.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
They have like a really niche and cool and like
complex and worked out like education in place in their
state schools. Like it was a very very cool spot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
And I also love that it's like kind of neighborly
with Connecticut and where we are now, Like we could
definitely go there and see shows. Yeah that's Delaware.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
That's Delaware, Delaware, but it can boom. What do you
want to do? One last thing?

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I do just justin.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Let's lay one down, uh huh, play disease tches and
a lie six sand a lie.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
The lies about the states you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
This is the one. This is the one that's right,
it's time for the teche. Hello, little to choose in
a lie? This is the game we played. The end
of every episode. The person who didn't do all the
research find to choose in a lie and we're working
it out. It brings it up and the person has

(01:03:32):
to figure out which the lie is. Are you ready? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
I told me about Delaware.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
All right, two choots and a lie, and I am
doing a themed one today. Oh spooky, spooky, spooky.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Oh that's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
I'm doing spooky ones. Okay, okay, all right. The first one, Okay,
this one's crazy, this one's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Of all of the serial killers caught in the United
States history, sixteen were caught in Delaware.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I actually think I've heard something like that before.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
That seems true.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Yeah. The next one, okay, Delaware. Oh, this is kind
of cool. I kind of like grab bag of this
one together. Delaware has a weird history in starting ghost
catching groups that have TV shows. So ready, so ghost
Grabbers on sci Fi? Oh shoot, my seria went off,
Ghos Grabbers on st F, the Paranormal Party on Sci Fi.
And then I had no idea this show existed. I

(01:04:23):
read the unfortunately named catching a Creep on TLC, which
is not what you think it is. It's catching ghosts
and catching like paranormal doing like paranormal stuff on TLC.
All followed groups that all started searching on paranormal sites
in Delaware.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Okay, well here's the thing. I grew up in a
Penn State household or a paranormal State household. Okay, Paranormal
State is the Penn State Research Group. And like me
and my sister truly like if we're like doing a
sleepover and we're like we should post it on, we're
still watching Paranormal State.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
So I kind of realized. I didn't realize Delaware had
so much. But that's like a.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Similar neck of the woods. So I'm like maybe like culturally,
like it's a it's a really old place, like because
that's the other thing is like these areas like were colonies. Yeah,
so everything is old.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I also didn't watch a lot of ghost catching shows,
so I didn't know that there was like history behind
each of these ghost catching shows where like they came from.
I didn't realize in my hand, I'm like, oh, these
groups are like random people hot punch Dad. I didn't
realize there were groups from like certain places that got
TV shows.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Yeah. See, and I know that's the thing. And now
I'm kind of bothered because I'm like, that could be
a really good lie, because I want it to be true.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yeah, I want to watch it show. Okay, My last one,
the Delaware cryptid, like the biggest cryptidka like like Western
James Mothman is the Selbyville swamp monster who lurks in
the murky terrain in the Great cit Press Swamp in Selbyville, Delaware.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
That pisses me off because it seems like you made
that up. I'll go over really good at this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Yeah, I know, of all the serial killers caught in
the United States history, sixteen were Condon, Delaware. That seems true.
The one about the paranormal the three different ghost catching
groups who have TV shows all started in Delaware Ghost
Grabber's paranormal party. And then I still can't believe this
is catching is crazy thing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
But you would write that as a joke. You'd be like, yeah,
catching a creep.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
I mean it's very funny.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
It is funny.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Yeah, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
If that's the lie, your smug, You're smug as hell.
What's the third one?

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Again, and then the last one is the Delaware biggest.
The biggest crypti in Delaware is the Selbyville Swamp monster
who lurks in the murky terrain and the Great Cypress
Swamp and Shelby Bild.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
I think that one's the lie. I think you made
up a cryptid because you want to no Halloween. I
think you lied about the c I think you lied.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
You're wrong, I'm wrong. Yeah, what's the lie? I made
up all of those ghosts catching things.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
The whole thing was a lie because I was because
I was like, he would feel so proud of coming
up with snappy titles because I'm on a snappy I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Know all of that is made up. I have any
research like ghost catching shows.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
And I knew because I was like, yeah, I would have.
I would have watched those shows.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Fun tact of the Day.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
So the sixteen, So there's ghost shows on TLC.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Yeah, I don't know. I made it up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
That was good, you know what. So much of that
didn't add up, and I still just wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
It to be real.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Yeah, I want it to be real.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
The serial Killers thing sixteen were caught in Delaware. It's
the like fifth smallest amount for a state. I thought
sixteen still sounded like a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
What's the number one? I'll tell you're in California. Yeah,
I think it's California, California in Texas, but it is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Where is it? I'll find it right here. How many
serio killers by a state? That's what I looked up. Okay,
so all together, So California is one thousand, seven hundred
and seventy seven serial killers have being caught, Texas nine
hundred and eighty four, Florida nine thirty three, Illinois six
to eighty, New York sixt seventy seven. And then you
can keep going down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Then I guess, yeah, I guess Delaware is like doing
really good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Delaware is sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Wait. So when you phrase that fact to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Me, I was like, oh wow, I mean it's on
bigger than it was.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Yeah, I know it was my tone, you're good at this. Yeah,
he's a smoothe my lie, I fully made up. It
was completely a lie.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Well, let's the things. You're a little writer and you
want to get a little tricks in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Yeah, nothing about it. I thought if it was a.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Second or the third one, because I'm like, he'll be
proud of this either way.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Yeah, either herd was just real.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
I was just real thinking like, oh that'd be a
fun cryptid like, but I wasn't sure about how cypress
trees work.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
And then I literally just that's a quote from the website.
Yeah that was so clearly catch it create.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
That's so you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
I I knew it was so me. That's why I
wrote the unfortunately named as if like I found it,
and yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
It was well done. Also, you saying to you'll see,
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Like, well, I guess, like the learning channel you can
learn about.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I guess you could if it was historic.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah, and two were on sci fi that made sense, Yeah,
it did. That's where a lot of them are.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
That's where I watched.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Yeah, that was a good one. I got you again, dude. Hey,
good job, you got got you did good. Thank you
so much for listening to play to see this has
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(01:08:52):
play exchange plays. We'd Kill the Bird, that's Eric's play.
I have a bunch of stuff on my new play
Change as well. You can check out my plays that
are published, Cabin Chronicles and Community Guard over on place scripts,
produce them, by them whatever you would like to do,
and go see theater. If you're in Delaware, hopefully you
probably know about all of these theaters. But if you're
in the Philly area, if you're in the Baltimore area, hopefully,

(01:09:12):
like I know, my partner Liz is from the Baltimore area.
Whenever you go see theater, we think about DC, we
think about Philly, we thinkbout Baltimore. I've never really thought
about Delaware before. And I'm like, oh, there's so much
cool stuff going on in Delaware. That's like another kind
of like Neck of the Woods that like when we're
visiting her family, we have a car, like we could
go check that out. So that's really cool. Go check
out Delaware. Oh, shout out cars, Shout out cars, four

(01:09:34):
wheels and shout out cars. And I'm gonna end this
episode the way I end every episode by look at
my friend in her big blue eyes and saying, Erica,
can I got you again? And I love you so much?

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Justin Barack, you did it again. I love you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
But oh wait, before we say bye, what next? The
next two episodes are really good. They are Florida and Georgia.
Oh sap, I have Florida? You have or do you
get Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Yeah, we're gonna pop off.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
We're gonna pop off.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
We got some big hitters, So get.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Excited for two really fun episodes. I think I'm excited
to explore Florida Theater. I think it's gonna be weird.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
It's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be weird.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
There's like a ton of cities, and there's a ton
of stuff in Georgie. Like you could do a full
episode just on Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
There's so much, there's a ton, so be four hours long.
We're doing a marathon progregatory.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Get ready for some big episodes. Yeah. I don't know
why I said that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Literally at the end of each other and so much,
so much, good Bye,

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