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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, welcome to play the Zee.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Please rise for this season's introduction song.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Fight through It.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Connecticut.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good job, Hello, everybody, welcome to play Z.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm your coast justin Borah.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
And I'm your co host Ericakon.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
And do I want any lights on?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
You got dark in here all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Before right before we were supposed to say like, what's up,
everybody welcome to Erica. Looked at me. It was like
lights on. It's like we're not recording video continent, but
it's like it's so co Yeah, that's okay. I like
a cozy vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
We're keeping it cozy this week.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
As I tell you about Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Oh yeah, it's Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Don't forget. This is the highly anticipated saw Baby. Your
song went cruise baby.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Song, ma own our own mom, windows down.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
We're going for the whole thing Cruise.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I don't know we're big enough to get in trouble yet.
For maybe one day until after cruise, I think we
kept on going, we would get in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Resolution for twenty twenty five get sued Florida. Georgia gets
so big.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's so big that we get Florida, Georgia line. That's
so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Manifesting this watch the space you can manifesting this suit
soon for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh my god. Okay, all right, I'm looking through so Hi, Hi,
how are you? I'm good? How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Before we get into the episode we did in Georgia today,
I said this last week. I thought it'd be fun
to talk about shows that we're excited to see in
twenty twenty five, because last week we talked about the
shows we were like happy to see in twenty twenty four.
Is there anything that comes to mind?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I have a whole list of my notes appo to
me to like just bang them all out, bang them
all by one. Yeah, give me a couple, Okay, all nighter?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh all, that's the one at MCC with Julie Lester.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, yep, which that player. I haven't read anything by her,
but she's been around for a minute, and so I
need to check out all her work. Yeah, not only
I think it's Marglin.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Morglin, Yeah, Margolin. I think.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I don't know it's a last name that I can
phonetically sound out, but I'm not sure I'm putting the
right box in the right place. Yeah, Eureka Day, Obviously,
I'll probably rush that. I am curious to see Vanya,
but also it's probably out of my tax. It's so expected,
it's just probably not gonna happen. But I would love
to see that. I would too, glass Kill what if
only imp.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh, yeah, it's been a thing.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, but seeing them together like that, that's probably like
top three for the year me. I'm very excited to
see Carol Church of production at that scale. The Public,
I think public. They have really really good branding, and
so I'm pretty sure it's the Public. What else is
on here? Curse the Starving Class. I'll probably try to
make it to the same one with yes Ethan Slater

(03:18):
and I don't remember the other person at this moment.
The New Best Wall Play. Obviously, I'm not going to
miss that. Liberation. I want to go see the Civilian
show Radio Downtown, which I think been the day we're
recording this. Oh really, I think so I might be wrong,
but I think we're like creeping up. January February is
like about to pop off her places, So it's about

(03:40):
to be like my season here which I'm so excited about.
I want to see Grief Camp Atlanta Atlantic Elliot Smith
a young player Right to watch Cherry Orchard at St
N's Warehouse Purpose by Brandon Jacob Jenkins, Like why miss it?
And then something I've been seeing people talk about online
is my mother's funeral the show? Oh yeah, I don't

(04:01):
remember in this moment.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Who I think it's under the radar list. I think
close it soon. I think it's only opening.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
The twenty fifth of this month.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh really, I think so. Maybe it's not a festival
show for some reason, my head.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Feel like it is too. But I for some reason
in my head it's at the bottom of my list.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
It's not like a there's like a couple of festivals,
so maybe it's.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
It might be one that has a longer run.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
In my head, I have enough time to see it.
We both know I've been wrong about that before.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't know. I mean, you could be totally right.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
There's other stuff too, but this is just kind of
what's in the notes app right now.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I think, for me, where is it? It's I'm trying
to look up the name the show. I'm most excited
about is the new Joshua Harmon play God, What is
the name? Why do you kill me? Joshua Harmon? Andrew
because Andrew buck Filman is in it. We had a world,
that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh that's not Oh wait, the antiquities, that's.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Antiquity is gonna be great. We're seeing that, which I'm
excited about. Yes, I'm excited to see we we had
a world. I love Joshua Harmon, I love Bad Jews.
I think Andrew by Filman is great. So I'm really
excited about that.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh, there's a new Reggie Joseph play too.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Next three months are like their premium for me.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Grangeville, the new Samuel D. Hunter. I think you said
that one already.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
But it's the play about Marlon Brando Tennessee Williams. That's
gonna be really, really good. There's like, here's the thing.
We talked a lot. You talked all about a lot
of plays. I'll hit a couple of musicals that I'm
really excited about. I'm excited about Redwood. I'm so excited
about the new Idea Mens Musical. I'm also excited about
Buenavisa's Social Club, which I think is gonna be great

(05:28):
of Floyd Collins. I love Oh Lizzie McAlpine the things.
This is a play, but dude, I cannot wait to
see English. I want to see it. I know you
already saw it the Guthrie. I haven't seen it. I
want to see it so bad. Yeah, I really want
to see it. One show that I'm excited about that
I'm not like happy I'm excited about is George Clooney's
new play, good Night and good Luck. Excited about it

(05:50):
well because it seems like a basic like play or whatever.
But it's in the Winter Garden. That's what I'm excited about.
It's like the biggest space on Broadway when you're going
on is where like Beele Juice was, is where Back
to the Future was. Yeah, I've never ever thought in
a million years that a play would go to that,
a play would go to the Winter Garden. It's just
so big. So I'm like excited to I think I'm.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Mostly that star power inside.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, I think we're just most excited to see how
it sells. It just seems like like like I guess
Georg George Clooney is obviously bigger than like I don't know,
like Patty Lapone, right, he's bigger than like Stadie Sink.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Like that's like, I guess it depends on how you
look at it.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
But I mean, I mean I'm assuming these producers must
be looking at it like that because like the Booth
is a smaller theater to me, Like.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Maybe I'm missing context, Like Patty Lapone is a bigger
name for Broadway if you're trying to get people to
go see theater who maybe have it before, they'll know
who George Clooney is.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, and where like it's.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Like a recruitment versus a insider like huge hit. Yeah,
not that Patty Lapone's like that inside or anything, but
like no, And.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's what I'm saying is like I don't think. In
my hand, I'm like George Clooney can't sell the Winter Garden.
Can That's crazy?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I don't know because because the thing is, I'm in
deep so like I don't care, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
No, I know, but in my head, I'm like, I
just don't understand how it. It's just such a big space.
It's so big. I don't know, I don't know. I'm
excited to see it. I'm excited to see what it's like.
I'm excited to see if it's like because like Back
in the Future is one of the highest selling shows
on Broadway for a long time, and you could get
rush tickets by getting there at nine to fifty still

(07:26):
because it's such a big theater. It's so big, I
mean like like the roommate, Like you get rushing kids
to the roommate.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Like I was like fourth in line.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, most days you could get rush sirkits an hour
before the show. You can walk into too, so many
reshorts available and they're like, yeah, that's just the thing
that happens. So I don't know. I'm excited to see
good Night and good Luck and see what happens with
that play. Because oh, and I'm really excited for a fellow.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, I wondered why you hadn't said that yet.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, I'm really excited for a fellow. Then a Washington J.
Jallen Hall a fellow. I mean, it's just it's gonna
be so good. Yeah, it's gonna be really And I'm
really sad I haven't seen Romeo and Juliet yet, but
in my head, I'm like, because I want to see
Shakespeare on Broadway. In my head, I'm like, I would
rather if I had to buy a full press ticket,
I'd rather pay for a full press ticket to a
fellow than Roman and Juliette. So I'm kind of waiting

(08:17):
it out. Could I've tried to go Rush Rome and
Juliet like five times. Yeah, I haven't gotten a ticket.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, kill, we'd have to go camping.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, shows that are already opened that I'm excited this year,
Like I want to see maybe Happy Ending and make
my own opinion on.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Seeing that either, but I would like to see.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, I want to see that. I want to see.
Trying to think of like stuff that's open that I
haven't seen that I want to see. That's like I
think twenty twenty five is a year that I see
some like random stuff that I don't think I have to,
but I'm just going to anyway. Yeah, like I'm gonna see.
I want to see a wonderful world. I love Jim
Fromono Iigle Heart. I would love to see Aladdin. I
would love to see like some of those cool big
Disney musicals. I honestly I would love to see Lion King.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
You haven't seen Lion King?

Speaker 1 (08:53):
No, I've never seen Lion King before. I would love
to see I just saw the Wicked movie the other day.
I'd love to see Wicked on stage. You know what
I'm kind of excited about, but a should not really
what Stranger Things?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
That makes sense to be excited. You probably TV?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, I like you.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Like things transferring to stage.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, but this is gonna maybe make people hate me
and stop listening to the podcast, but I'm gonna say
it anyway. I don't care. I didn't watch season four
Stranger Things.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I think I did. I think I'm up to date.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I watched the first three seasons, and I watched the
first episode of season four and I wasn't into it,
and I stopped watching.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I binged it. I pinched it at a friend's cabin. Yeah,
like Pontoon by Day.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
And then Stranger Things that night. Yeah, I like, I
feel like, But here's the thing. My friend went to
the UK and saw Stranger Things and he was like
watching the whole series again to like get ready for
the watching the show, and he got halfway through season
four and he went to see it and he was like,
there was stuff that happened at the end of season
four that they reference in the play.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
You need to be like completely up to date from
what I've.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Heard, make sure or is it kind of a Harry
Potter situation where it's like this is about the technicality
of what you're seeing.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I mean my I don't want to out anyone my company,
like my company on Harry Potter, and like I like
people say, like you should watch you should watch Harry
Potter three and four before seeing Kirschild because it helps
out with a lot of context. But you can totally
go in blind and like be fine. My parents went
in blind and they like understood what was happening.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
There's also like a far less demand of asking an
audience to read like two three hundred and four inder
page books and then just like binge watch.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
A TV show. Yeah. Yeah, But that's the thing though,
is that, like I do feel like it should be
able to stand on its own, and from what I've heard,
I don't know if it does like completely. So I'm
I'm interested to go in. Like a part of me
is like I'm gonna watch all season fourth the night
before I go and see the show. And another part
of me is like, no, just go in and see.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
If do that and then take your dad who doesn't No,
one won't care, Yeah, and will tell me. Yeah, see
if he's like, I didn't need like, I didn't need context.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, but I heard the it's Jack Thorne again, who
wrote Harry Potter. So the the the stuff they do
technically is crazy from what I've heard. Yeah, which I'm
excited to see. But also I probably won't go because
that's the Marquee and the Marquee doesn't give any discounts
for tickets. I'm so mad about the Marque. I didn't
get to see alf So.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, I don't have any means of accessibility. I
just know I don't care.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
There's yet to be anything where I'm like, but no,
I have to see that one.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I don't. I'm putting it on blast justin Borax feuding
with them twenty twenty five, Feuding with the Marquee Theaters.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
In twenty twenty five. You fist fight a building.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I fist fight a building, dude, every time I've gone
to that box. Let me go off and then we'll
start the episode. Let me go off on the Marque
for a second. Every single box office worker at the
Marquee I think hates me specifically. I walk in and
I say, hey, can I get a ticket? And they
say yeah, it's one hundred and fifty dollars. I say not, Oh,
you're like really close sold out and he's like, no,

(11:44):
we have so many seats available.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, we just don't give them to you.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And I'm like, WHOA, this show's in like an hour.
Is there any discounts or student discounts? Is there a rush?
Is there anything like a lottery system? He goes no,
and I go, well, what are you gonna do with
all the empty seats? He has no one's gonna sit
in them.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And he's spit in your face and.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
My face and he punched me in the yards, in
the tummy, both of them. And I'm both to handera
and a bam and a bop, But dude, I like,
I just want to see shows. And I've never been
in a Marquee theater and I want to go see
shows there. I want to go see Stranger Things. But
I'm nervous that Straining Things is gonna sell better than
el if I think, And but I don't think it'll
sell like I think it's a Broadway show. So they're

(12:19):
still gonna rush Shack. It's available like almost every other
Broadway show, and I'm sad. I'm like, I don't think
I'm gonna be able to see this one for us
because it's gonna be like over one hundred dollars and
i'd rather whenever someone's like, hey, you should have seen
the show and I have to pay for a full
price ticket, the like usually the the full price ticket
I want to get is like a hundred bucks. It's
like in the balcony in the middle. It's not way

(12:40):
in the back, but it's like one of the cheaper
full price tickets.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm just gonna ask you, what would you pay an
insane amount of money to see? If you can put
anything on Broadway to the highest scale.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Oh not just this season.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Like like if you're like, okay, say I say justin
you're gonna pay five hundred dollars to see something on Broadway?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
What would you be willing to do that for like
the best production of Pussy Sleddge ever made. Yeah, yeah,
I'd pay five hundred dollars for any Grease Cigart. I
would play it for Athena two.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I don't think you have to that one gets stun
a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, but no, But on Broadway, I would pay five
hundred dollars for a really good production of Pussy Sledge,
I'd get I'd pay five hundred bucks for a really
really good production of Bad Juice. Just gotta love that play.
Oh my god. I'd pay five hundred dollars for any
any Baker play on Broadway. It doesn't matter. It could
be any play, it could be any cast, just to
see it, any Baker play on Broadway.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
She'd never have you do that. I know you'll never
have to.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I know.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'm sure that's our mommy.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I know I love her to do that. Mommy, Mommy, momy.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Also, Planet Janet is on Max.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think I know it is. Yeah, God, but but yeah.
So that's my few with the Marquis. Okay, I'm excited
technically for The Stranger Things, but I'm definitely not gonna
go see it unless I get camped in. It's gonna
be minimum one hundred dollars to see the show. And
I'd rather rush two shows, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Like I mean my rush three, depending on what you're seeing.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I know, Like that's my thing though, is like most
rush trickets are like thirty five to forty dollars, and
someone's like, it's one hundred dollars to see the show.
I would rather spend forty dollars to see Eureka Day Again.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I saw Cults of Love for twenty five dollars.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And then see Cult of Love.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I saw Cult of Love for twenty five dollars. My
taco belt order for me and my buddy I went
with was the same amount of money.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Dude, I saw Our Town for twenty five dollars. I
sat on the stage.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, So here's the thing. Would you rather see stranger
things in a media purceipt where you rather see Eureka Day,
Cult of Love and Our Town?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
You know the answer to this?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, exactly. So that's the thing is, like I just
think that non accessible tickets on Broadway is like hurting Broadway.
But I guess like when big companies own the theater,
it matters like a little less.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I will say, you know, why do things like the
office parody and like kind of like random name recognition
things exist and last so long. It's because, like it's
not about making it accessible for the locals, It's about
getting people on vacation so it does have name recognition.
It does strange kind of Americans who have a Netflix
subscription but have not seen a play. It's like they're
gonna get away.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
With this way.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Did the win and they got away with health. Yeah,
that's why they do what they do.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
How they do it makes sense. I just it's just
disappointing because I want to see I want to see
those shows too.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
How about this, if one of us wins the lottery,
we buy the theater.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I thought you were just gonna save one of the lottery.
We'll buy tickets a stranger by.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
If one of us wins the lottery, we'll buy tickets
and t shirts, two tickets and things.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I was gonna say, we buy the theater, we keep
the same box office staff, and we make them give
everything away for free with a lollipop. Yeah yeah, and
then it's called the you'll rue the day endowment. Good
And it never costs money ever again to go there
never costs money to the other market. In fact, we
give money out, we pay we only do.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Cool plays and all we pay you we pay you yeah, yeah, fifty.
How do you make money on this?

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, it's all on paid interns.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But everyone's an unpaid interns. Correct, it's non equity shows.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's a reverse funnel system, non equity.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Everything is performed by entrance to We do not pay them. Yeah,
they pay, they pay the audience.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's to pay to play, but we pay to.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Pay what we pay you a go.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's to take the money from the entrance to the pat.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay, those are the things we're excited about. And that's
a little round on the Marquete theater again. I'm just
gonna keep futing with them. I don't care. I think good.
I want to fight a building. Okay, good, fight a
building justin? Justin, wait's a building in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Do you want to listen to me talking about Georgia.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I want to listen to you talk about Georgia.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Are you excited?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I'm wow. That's just me always for good.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I think I forgot about it.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
And there we go. What's the blue one do again, Liz? No,
dark blues lives with shot. That's when shot because this.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Is what's Upboddy.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
And then that's what wah, that's laughs. So it's purples.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Purple is wrong.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Cricket being purple is so wrong completely, and one day
I'll learn how to re One day, I'm going to
re update all of these. I'll keep the Liz and
the Sue ones, and then the other six I'll just
make weird sounds and you'll not.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Be I think we should just have a shuffle button.
We never know what.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
We always have to keep pink and blue. Okay, yeah,
that's it, all right, all right, I'm ready, Okay, teach
me about Georgia.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
So the first thing I wrote down Georgia, is this
the first episode where our states are kissing.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh, they are kissing. They're kissing.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
If Georgia was a man's torso with his little tummy
and a shirt, Florida is his little legs like he's
sitting on a dog. So are our states. These last
two episodes are kissing, and I think that's really cute.
Next note I wrote is baby You're a song because
we are talking about Florida and Georgia.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Back to back. Pretend pretend I'm hitting this button and
it's playing Floria Ridge line.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Okay, baby good, I've got my windows down in my radio.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Up.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Let's talk about it. Georgia. My version of like what
you do you do? All of like the phonetics, and
then you get in to like stuff on the Wikipedia
to do what I always do and kind of run
you through like the rough racist history of America, the
kind of scenic things to look out for.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Start.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I always started the under start. Try to do my
part to support public education.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Good. That's good.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
A lot of people don't want you to know about
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Anyway, Georgia right now, like eleven million people, half of
them are in Atlanta. Yeah, crazy, so big, so big.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Which it's twenty it's how popular it is.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Eleven million people ish, half.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Of them are in Atlantic, eleven million people in all of.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
So Atlanta pop. There's a lot of cities with a
lot of different scenes and then but Atlanta is packed
and like justin if I were to ask you, like, hey,
what is Atlanta known for for actors?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
The Alliance Theater.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
And like film and also like big film, It's had
crazy film development in the past.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Isn't like Stranger Wait, Stranger Thing shoots there?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I actually I know that because one of my favorite
sinker YouTubers a rogue fast well, I am one of
my favorite uh Stecker YouTubers is a big Stranger Things fan,
and he made a video where like the big Hawkins
Building is in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
It's a pop and place to be. We'll kind of
talk about.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It and Walking Dead. Wait a ton of places.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Atlanta's huge for Yeah, there's a lot of tax incentives.
We'll kind of get into it. I'll run you through
some of the high nuts of stuff that's going there. Georgia,
I will say, is a massive state for theater, for entertainment,
for that entire industry. So definitely on this episode if
you're from there, I'm gonna be missing a lot of stuff.
That's okay, Yeah, feel free to fill me in on
the back end. We'll pitch it in another episode or
anything like that. But this is kind of your overview.

(19:35):
Some hits and some deep cuts that I don't think
you should miss.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, they have a lot of like like I mean,
the Alliance. I'm sure you'll talk about them, but like
the Alliance like sent a lot of Broadway shows.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, so Georgia.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Georgia, it was.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
The last to join the thirteen British colonies. Shout out
its namesake, King George WHOA. Yeah, that's why it's Georgia.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, og colonies. Fast forward in time after it had
succeeded in the Civil War. It was also the last
state to be readmitted to the Union. So Georgia my
pitch for their motto Georgia better late than never, like
most states. Okay, it's got like gorgeous natural splendor and racism.
So natural splendor vibes on the top part, you've got.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like this isn't it isn't it always? Isn't it always?
Beautiful story.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
So you've got the blue rich mountains in the north,
that's like the Appalachian Appalachian Mountain Range kind of area.
But you've got the Atlantic Ocean on the bottom were
we're bumping up. We're kissing with Florida. Lovely, lovely, lovely.
So way way back in the day, this area was
like previously inhabited by different sort of indigenous mound building cultures.
If we fast forward in time in the early eighteen hundreds,

(20:45):
Andrew Jackson very famously forced a lot of tribes like
Muscogie tribes to surrender millions and millions of acres of land.
In eighteen twenty nine, there was this little quick kind
of gold rush that only lasted about thirty so years.
This is all rough history, but that even more pressure
on to get people to leave. And so at that
point Andrew Jackson, who was the president, then signed into

(21:06):
law the Indian Removal Act, which if you don't know
what that is from your public school, let's find a
better textbook and fund it. That's the trail of tears.
So Georgia has like a lot going on way back
in the day when you push forward in time, and
that displacement moved a lot of people actually to Oklahoma.
When you kind of move around in time, you also
have the Civil War. The Civil War was huge because

(21:27):
like the economy in Georgia was a plantation economy, right.
And then even when you go past the Civil War,
the racism around like voting, disenfranchising poor white and just
black voters. If you've never heard of poll taxes, I know,
that's kind of a lot of stuff that in our
history books around like the Civil Rights Act, we just
kind of pushed past and we kind of hit these
landmarks in American history where it's like, but then everyone

(21:49):
got the right to vote, and then everyone got this
or that. In Georgia, you really really see these things
took actually forever to be in effect, So lots of
Jim Crow laws lynching, a lot of stuff going down.
People of note who are from there of that era.
Mlka Junior was born in Atlanta. Jimmy Carter Irip recently
passed away. It was from planes. So this state has

(22:11):
like quite literally been a battleground in like many senses
of the word. So a lot of the kind of
arts that you see pop up are very specific to
like Georgia residents are very specific to Georgia culture or
even like specifically Atlanta culture, because there is like this
huge sense of people having to like leave this area

(22:31):
across different cultures, and I think that that comes through
when you see kind of how their history is played out.
There's a huge thriving art scene in Georgia, and I
just think that it's very very cool. It's very very
community specific. So again, if you're from Georgia, a lot
of the companies and opportunities I'm going to be popping
out and talking about today. Like therefore, you if you're

(22:52):
someone who's on the fence about possibly moving to Georgia,
say you're someone who's like finishing your undergrad theater or
acting or whatever, and you're like, I don't know if
I want to do New York. La Erica talks about Minneapolis.
I don't know if I want to freeze to death
for half the year. Right, If you're thinking about Atlanta,
which I know a lot of people do these days.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Time, I remember leaving WVU and so many people, so
many were like, I think I'm in to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, because of the Southeast region. You know, before you
get up north towards like DC, maybe Philly, maybe New York,
Atlanta's down there and it's the biggest hub. So anyway,
I think the biggest thing it's known for is like
the film kind of entertainment industry. In like the seventies,
there's kind of this big push. By twenty sixteen, it

(23:35):
took over California for like the state with the most
feature films being produced on location. It surpassed California in
a lot of ways, which really surprises people. But it's
because of tax incentives. It's also like a right to
work state, and so they're kind of understanding of how
the union's going to work. There is a little bit different.
I tried to get into the weeds because like everything
I've heard about working in Atlanta as an actors like

(23:55):
super anecdotal, Like I'm sure you have friends have been
like oh yes or that right, and so like the
positive I've heard about it is like, oh, for like
a sort of like you know, smaller marketplace, not that
small anymore. There's like less competition than somewhere like maybe La,
but it's because there's also a smaller pool of work
or maybe that work doesn't like go as high because
you know, it's sort of like some people have a
negative connotation of like people are outsourcing work too Georgia

(24:17):
because it's cheaper or whatever. So apparently there's like some
nuance with like feelings between actor marketplaces that happens, like
there's a cultural understanding of that we have that for
like Minneapolis versus Chicago as well. So I'm not from Atlanta,
I've ever worked in that scene. But if you're curious
about it, there are tons of like forums people talking
about it online what their experience was, you know, getting

(24:39):
an agent in a town that has like about ten
big casting you know directors versus like dozens. Yeah, so
if you're someone who like again kind of like me
when I left undergrad I had no part of me
that was like, yeah, I think I'm going to move
to LA or New York and thrive. This is definitely
a state to be looking at.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Also because once you're a resident of that state, you
get entitled to like a lot of amazing new work opportunities.
I'm gonna tell you about. So anyway, it's kind of
deemed like the Hollywood of the South. Like you said,
Stranger Things, Walking Dead, the Vampire Diaries.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I think Marvel shoots a lot of their stuff there too.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, Captain America, Civil War, Black Panther, Passengers, Forrest Gump, Contagion,
Hidden Figures, Baby Driver, The Hunger Games, Catching Fire, Yet
Birds of Prey, like a ton of stuff is shot there.
For like TV shows. All of Tyler Perry's studios are
down there. He's really invested in that community. Real Houses
of Atlanta. Obviously you've got the show Atlanta. Just tons

(25:35):
of stuff. Also, numerous HGTV original productions.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Whoa cool.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
So if you're a homemak over guy, you've probably seen stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Wait there, can I see something completely off topic? Yeah?
I learned the other day. Yeah, what you do, Liz
and I shout out Liz's watching New gro for the
first time, and I'm rewatching it with her. Did you
know Jali Dation now is married to a property brother.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, she went from death capri que guy Ben Gibberd
to a property brother.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Property brother, break your heart. That's crazy. I know that's
kind of awesome and I love it, but it's also
weird and insane.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't know anything about the property brothers. I don't know.
I know there's two of them, that's all I know.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
It's brothers in property.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah. But yeah, I just thought i'd say that. You
said HGTV and that was a fact that's been on
my brain for the last week or two, and I
had to say, I did not ever expect they're like married, right, Yeah,
that's wild.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
He like has Vienier's face to me.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I think he's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
We'll talk about it later.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
That's coming up.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Okay, So now I'm going to run you through. We're
gonna hop from like kind of like colleges to theaters
with kind of cool stuff you should know about to Yeah,
some random notes. So a ton of colleges in Georgia,
there's no way I'm going to hit them all. So
I thought i'd pop off and tell you the ones
that are either like interesting, unique, fully funded, or like
have like a really good name recognition. So first one
I pulled up is s KAD, which I've always pronounced

(26:59):
it as SKAD. Is that how you say it too.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I know, we pronounce it's SCAD. I went to school
really close to with Lena.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh okay, so you know the right way, And.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I went to school in Charleston, South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
People call it SCAD.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, SCAD.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Why do I call it SCAD?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I don't know. I mean, like people could call it
SCAD at other places, but I'm like very.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Much not from that region. Okay, cool, so we'll call
it SCAD because you're probably right. So SCAD is the.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Savannah College of Arts and Design.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right, yeah, yeah, okay, that was a quiz in you passed.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Thank you, so good job.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
S CAD like I know of like in the in
the world as being like an amazing, amazing school with
like very good programs and like funding for a lot
of opportunities. I always connotated as being very expensive. So
the people that I know who have gone there absolutely
adore it. It's like an amazing school with amazing opportunities.

(27:46):
It's very embedded in the film Austry that's there. I
can't speak to funding for it.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Wait, I can you can? I can?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Do you want to?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
You want to know why MFA and acting?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Did they say yes to you?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
And I got an offer?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Here's the thing. But can you've gotten an offer to
every MFA program in the country. How the hell do
we meet a WU? How do we do that?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
No? I remember that year I got offered. I got
offered like Yukon. I got offered Iowa, I got offered Northwestern,
I got offered Florida State, and I got offered SCAD.
I got offered a couple more, but but SCAD was
also something I offered.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Did they offer you any funding?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
So they didn't have any funding, and I was like,
can't do it.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
They're almost like an international school in that way. They're
just kind of like, oh no, we don't do that.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, but they tried to work with me and they
gave me. So they gave me and I don't know,
I don't think I'm blowing up their spot. I think
like this is.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Just something I think we should be honest about it
in transparency, because like I didn't, look, this is not sponsored,
This is not an app.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I know, this isn't.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
If I tell you about something and it's free, it
doesn't mean it's good. If I tell you about something
and it's expensive, it also doesn't mean it's good. Yeah,
as artists, like I should know. I'm like a working
class person. Like a lot of people will just tell you,
like go to school, and they don't understand the weight
and the burden of that, Like I gotta bring up.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
They they were cool, they worked like I told them
I couldn't, and I think they really wanted me to come
and they worked with me, and they they had a
meeting with them and I told them somehow we got
to like show choir and I told them that I
like was I won. I won Best Male Vocalists at
the Link at Lincoln Center and show Choir Nationals. You
just want to work that in a big deal. But
then like a couple days later, they invited me to

(29:15):
join the Honeybees, which was their show choir on campus.
And I was and they were gonna give me like half,
like I was gonna get like a half scholarship, like
half are.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You guys, can you fathom this is this school is
like forty over forty k year and they're like, wait,
show choir.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
We'll give you twenty grand. We'll give you twenty grand
a year if you are part of the Honeybees or
something of that nature.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's more than you're already going to.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
But yeah, so they are. They like, we're willing. But
I don't think they're a fund I don't think they're
fully funded program, but I think they have the abilities
help out.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
They're mostly funded.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, I think they're not funded.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
But I think this isn't supposed to be a diss. No,
it's not what they're known for.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
That's just what that's just the school. It's I mean,
I don't think it's a diss at all. I think
there are some schools that have funding. There are some
schools that that don't have funding, and like that's just
depending on your financial situation. You might only be able to.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Go so SCAD if you can afford, I would say
do it. Yeah, They're like, if you can afford, it's
not going to do a really your chance at a career,
whatever your situation may be, that'd be cool to go to.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I remember I'm doing cool stuff when I was down there.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yes, So, like in terms of their programs for acting,
they have a BfN, BFA and MFA, and they also,
in association with that, have a professionally run casting office.
And so that's that's why a lot.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Of people they get you book film work through scads.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Specifically, people fork over because like you're in the heart
of everything, and so it is very like transfer transferable
to work. Again, I have not gone there. I know
a few people who have, but they've got a good
opportunities in that way. They have a Film and Television
b A, m A, and MFA, and they have a
production design BFA, m A and MFA, and they also

(30:43):
have a sound design one. The other thing that they
have which I had not seen very often is they
have a master's program in specifically dramatic writing, so they
have a BFA for that and an MFA. Again, SCAD
has like a campus in Atlanta and Savannah, so some
of these are a little bit different, but scifically they
call this one their way to master a storytelling across podcasts, movies,

(31:04):
TV and more. And so it is kind of a
more modern thing to not say like, oh I got
an MFA and creative writing or playwriting, but something like
dramatic writing. We're seeing those majors in entertainment kind of evolve,
which I think is interesting. So yeah, definitely cool stuff.
Check it out if you're able to. Next on my
list to chat about in terms of like education is

(31:25):
Emory College of Arts and Sciences Creative writing program. They
have a playwriting program. It's a joint program, so it's
actually a major.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
That you add on where what's your name works, right,
Kimberly Bellflower?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Who?

Speaker 2 (31:40):
We're going to see her name a couple of times. Actually,
you know what. I didn't check, but she's up in Georgia. Yeah,
don't know, don't don't ruin it. Oh wait, no, check
where she's around that I was looking. Don't look for
buyout because I want to weave. I want me paint
the picture.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Okay, So you can add a joint playwriting major if
you're already majoring at Emory and play rating. And the
cool thing about Emory that I wanted to call out.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
She's originally from a small apple Acchian town in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
That makes sense. That's why she's all been a lot
of these opportunities that Georgia isn't it I believe, So
don't don't dig any deeper.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I won't dig any So. The cool thing about dude,
she's the governor.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
That was my dude, that was my truth.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh she's the governor.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
She's the governor and the president of Georgia.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
She's the governor and she made with her hands.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
She her dad built Georgia. It's crazy, Okay. So the
cool thing about the Emory program is that it's also
associated with sort of like a quasi professional company called
Theater Emory. And by that I mean, from what I
can gather from their website, they'll put shows into their
season and when they need to or want to, they
hire and they fill in with professional actors, which means

(32:51):
if you go to theater dot Emory dot edu, there's
a professional auditions tab. These are professional auditions for non
union actors, but they're paid very very well. I'm scrolling
through the list, I'm like, oh, what are they up
to right now? And guess who I see? This month?
Starting this month rehearsals and going into process next month,
there is a workshop of the play Static Heead by

(33:13):
Ryan Stevens. Who Yes, Ryan Stevens. They're a friend of Justin's,
but I know their partner and so I feel like
I know Ryan. Ryan also has their own podcast with
Brooke Animation Nation. Animation Nation. They're a super cool playwright.
Their play Static Head, is getting a workshop performance on
February twentieth, twenty first, twenty second, and twenty third. Because

(33:34):
it's on their website, I'm gonna blow it up. They
hired non union actors for this. It's a five week commitment.
It's night time rehearsals, so if you had a day job,
but it would be accessible to you. It's like six
to ten rehearsals. They were paying five to seventy five
a week for this workshop. Wait, dude, for actors.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
First off, that's sick. Second off, Ryan Stevens is the
playwriting fellow aout Emory.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Here's the thing. I knew that they were like up
to stuff. I didn't know that that was a thing.
But again, several times in my research for Joy, there
was like a million small world moments where I'm like,
oh my gosh, we know that person or I know
that play right, or that's how that play came to
be Georgia is truly a hotbed for churning out specifically writers.
That's awesome, I know, so shout out Ryan Stevens. Go
see Statichead next month in February. And also again, their

(34:17):
non union actor pay for a relatively short communic commitment
was quite high. Their auditions are quite accessible. I think
they do like small time slots and they happen like
once or twice a year. So if you are near
Atlanta or actually this might be Savannah, Nope, it's Atlanta.
I think they have maybe two campuses, but if you're

(34:37):
in Georgia, definitely have this on your radar. Sounds like
amazing opportunities. Another cool program, Okay, we're leaving Emory College
that I have not seen bary I know is at
Spelman College. This is a historically black university with sort
of like a history of education for black women in
America or women of African descent, I think is how
they phrase it. They have a documentary filmmaking major. WHOA,

(35:01):
that's really cool, which I had not seen that specific
very very cool. They also just have like a normal
like acting or performance kind of program for undergrads. Yeah,
but specifically documentary filmmaking very very cool, very unique, pushing forward.
What's the biggest school you probably know of Georgia?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I mean Georgia, Yeah, Georgia, Georgia.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Which they I think they called us both back, right,
Yeah they did. I think I got my spot at
W because someone else took theirs, but we were both
called back to both. So shout out time for happening
the way it did so.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
That we got to meet. Oh yeah, yeah. If it
wasn't if it wasn't for University of Georgia's podcast wouldn't exist.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
And if it wasn't for you saying no to every
other program in America, we also wouldn't have met. It
would have been crazy, so cool things about University of
Georgia Unlike SCAD, Unlike a lot of these, it is
capital F capital F fully funded. Okay, tuition we are,
I think you buy in for healthcare. But it's like
one hundred dollars a month and it's a pretty fat
assistant ship. I want to say it's like fifteen grand
a year, which I know is not enough or a lot,

(35:56):
but considering considering every averages, it's on the higher end. Actually,
they're on hiatus this year because I think much like us.
They do like a small group of people for the
full three years, so they're not recruiting yet, but that
gives you time. If you're hearing about this too, put
them on your radar for like an urtist situation. So
they have the MFA. In acting, they have something called
a Dramatic Media MFA, which I had not seen before,

(36:19):
and they call that it's like computer science mixed with performance.
So they teach you like three D computer animation, interactive
media for like doing stuff on stage, and then the
integration of interactive media into live performance. So it's about
live theater and interactive media. It's a three year program.
I don't know if that one is fully funded, but

(36:41):
that seems very interesting. It seems kind of coded for
like up and coming projectionists, maybe people who are interested
in like newer cutting edge sort of like people who
go into like lighting design or animation. But I had
not seen that before. So in general for Georgia, University
of Georgia has like the most breadth and funding. They
also have an MFA in Film, Television and Digital Media. Again,

(37:01):
we are in Georgia, so if you're trying to work
in Georgia in TV and Film. University of Georgia and
SCAD are kind of like the most known for having
like money and actual facilities. I think there's a pretty
big difference in funding between both of them. I know
in state tuition for a public university would be very
different from something like SCAD. But it's cool stuff. So
MFA is all around. And then in addition to MFAs,

(37:23):
they have a PhD program in theater and performance studies. Now,
the first time I prepped for this episode because we
took a little break for the holidays, I found information
about the funding for it and it seemed good. The
second time I couldn't find it anymore and so hopefully interesting.
That's still the case. I don't want to speak out
of turn, but if you want a PhD in theater,
University of Georgia is like one of the few places

(37:45):
you can get it. Also because if you don't already
have an MFA, which you need to get a PhD.
If you didn't know, they have a five year program
where you get both. Yea, so five years MFA and PhD.
Crazy town? Can you fathom? Can you fathom that?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
That's insane?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I cannot know. But if you already have your MFA.
I think it's a four year program. Yeah, and they're
kind of like requirements they want for people to consider
this program have. It's having an m A or MFA
or doing it with them a strong creative background. We
love to see it. I think a lot of us
feel that way. And then the ability to research, analyze,
and write, because obviously you're you're putting forth research into

(38:23):
the world. But very cool. Sometimes in my head, I
think about being doctor Erica, doctor theater.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, I think about being.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
A doctor, even though I don't think I want to
do all that.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
I don't think I want to either. But also if
I were ever to be like you know what, I
think I want to teach, Yeah, I would consider going
to get a PhD.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
You know, I want to do it. Why I want
three degrees on my wall.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
That'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I only have like two. I could put my high
school up, but who cares? I have a lot Arman
shack I for that. Anyway, those were like the quick
hits of education exactly. Now we should talk a little
bit about theater, and by that I mean like theaters. Okay,
so some cool ones I found that are like mission specific.

(39:04):
There's one that's called Out of Hand Theater. It's based
in Atlanta, and they're very much modeled for social change,
So they're kind of like mission statement section says art
plus information plus conversation equals social change. Out of Hand
works at the intersection of art, social justice, and civic engagement.
We want to help the world through programs that combine

(39:26):
theater film with information and conversation. So I'm going to
tell you a little bit about what they do. First
of all, they have like a three prong executive director team,
which I'm really loving seeing. I think City Theater in.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Pittsburgh has that as well.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
This sort of like theater leadership is like this very
evolving thing. Traditionally there's like a managing director, an artistic director.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
People are not creating kind of director teams.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, there's been like a nice distribution of like what
if we just put a lot of people with who
are really good at specific stuff in charge versus like
money person and Creative.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Alliance is kind of doing it or not Alliance Arena
Stage in DC.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's been treated a lot like a like a left
brain right brain, like you do the books and the
money and I do the season and the stuff. And
I love that, like we're doing what we want now. Yeah,
it's very cool. So they have one of those as well.
They've got several types of programs that are super cool.
This is it's called out of Hand Theater. Out of
Hand and it's based in Atlanta. So one of their
programs it's called Shows in Homes and it's a one

(40:27):
act play about social justice and it's produced in someone's
living room. And so you do a one act play
in someone's living room and then you have a cocktail
party in the living room after and you talk about
what you saw.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
That's so cool.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's very, very very cool. They also do something called
Equitable Dinners, and it's very similar. You go out and
you have like a really quick sort of like more
like fifteen minute show, and then you eat dinner and
you talk about it and you talk about what it
made you think and how it made you feel. It's
like dinner theater, but if it was intentional, do you
know what I mean? Dinner theater but like less education

(41:00):
or less entertainment, more like called action. They also have
a Creative Kids Programs, which is great. It's like after
school classes. It's free. And they also do a lot
of community collaborations. So this is like a very very
cool company I want to be aware of. They also
have a lot of job opportunities right now, and they're
very specific to Atlanta playwrights, I want to shout out.

(41:20):
So they're asking for people to put together if you're
a Georgia playwright, they're asking people to put together commissions
for like ten to fifteen minute plays. Their application for
that is like very very simple and straightforward, and from
what I have seen, like the pay is very good.
So like for like a ten minute show that they
want someone to write about COVID nineteen, their base pay

(41:43):
is like twelve fifty and they're already laying out what
your advanced royalties and additional royalties would be like when
you apply. Yeah, So this is also very clearly like
a transparent company, which I mean you and I are
both new to playwriting. You're further ahead than me, obviously,
you're kind of like freestyling. You're hoping people do your
plays and they do them the right way, and they
pay you and they compensate you. Right, this is a

(42:05):
company that is like small and community oriented and committed,
and they're telling you like this is exactly what we need.
This is exactly what you can expect to receive, and
it's for a good cause. So again, if you a
Georgia bass play right, like, get up on there.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
They're also looking for a screenwriter for an animated short film,
for a Spanish laggage short film. They're looking for all
sorts of stuff, a composer for some of these works.
So they have cash to pay people with. It's super great.
Just go to their websites out of Hand theater dot com.
Another one that was mission specific is out Front Theater Company. Yeah,

(42:39):
it's looking to tell lgbt q I A plus stories.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Wait out Front they put out a lgbtqu I A
like collection of plays.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Sometimes yeah I bet they did.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's I own. It's on our shelf.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Oh really yeah, hey, small world. Good thing about them
is they have an employment tab online and they have
a spot for design and tech excuse me, designers and
technicians any more limited and performers. And so what that
means is you can literally go to their website and
year round rolling submissions. You just attach your resume, you
fill out your stuff, you give them mere union status,

(43:13):
and then you're just like in their little rolodex.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
That's dope.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I love when a company does that, it's the best.
They currently also will take submissions for play rights, but
if you are residing in Georgia, you're the only people
who can do that and it can only be up
to twenty pages. A lot of websites you see as
a playwright or like, don't even freaking look at me,
don't walk in the room, don't acknowledge me if you

(43:37):
don't have any agent or something, right. Yeah, so if
you are Georgia based, this is someone who you know
you can work with this company.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah cool.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
There's also a place called Seven Stages, which is interesting
because I found it because it's it's sort of like
a hosting situation, like a lot of people rent from them. Yeah,
so a lot of companies are having their performances at
Seven Stages, which seems interesting. It's in Atlanta. They've got
like a really great mission statement. They're super cool. They
also have a ton of like community programs, like they
have youth programs in school, residencies, internships and apprenticeships for people,

(44:08):
lots of activism and again like they're giving people space
to do stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
That's dope.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Something else. I don't know if this was ever on
your radar because you went to school down there. Did
you ever hear of the Georgia Theater Conference.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, yeah, yea, yeah yeah GtC. I remember because I
think Charleston Southern would go there and both or whatever.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, So it's sort of like their unified sort of situation.
They have a job there. You can do auditions there
for professionals.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
They have a college. They have a college like audition there. Okay,
I know exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
And they also have a new play submission section. So
it is closed for this year. I think it takes
place in October twenty twenty five, but if that wasn't
on your radar, it exists and they say who the
current winner is on their website, which is Georgia Theaterconference
dot com. Super cool. There is like so many opportunities
for Georgia bass play rights in the state. Yeah, like
more than any state of research so far. You throw

(44:58):
a rock, you hit a theater, and they care about
play rights who live there.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
It's very cool. So for the very niche plaby listener
who is like I live in Georgia and I want
to be a playwright, you pick the right state.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Congrats, you did it again.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I'm proud of you.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
We're so proud of you. Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Living in Georgia one jealous of you, but also maybe not.
I don't know. It seems to sway play right, I
like four seasons you get to be a playwright.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Okay. Cool.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Another theater that is like wildly known is called Essential Theater.
When I say wildly known, I mean known for being
a playwrights theater. So it started in like the late eighties,
and the play Rining Festival started in nineteen ninety nine.
But it's the longest running theater company in Atlanta and
it staged over forty world premieres. It's this annual sort

(45:48):
of playwrighting award that you can win to enter into.
It is super accessible, a very you know, small unknown
playwright had her play when that Her name is Lauren
Anderson and she won it when she was eighteen in
two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Way learn Gunderson from Georgia.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, oh yeah, So Lauren Gunderson's like a huge name
to come out of here, and Essential Theater is like
if you were looking at her resume and she somehow
managed to include everything She's done. Essential theater would be.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Like right at the start, that's so cool, which.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Is super super cool. So Essential theater is like really
really easy to apply to. They've got this play ritting
competition and they keep it super accessible. They don't really
ask that it be anything specific. There's no like restrictions
to style, subject matter, link, which you know usually there is.
They want it to be at least an hour ideally,
but you just get a cash prize of one thousand

(46:36):
bucks and then you get it produced in the festival.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
That's so dope.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, it's very cool. It was a lot of places
start or a lot of people start another one. That
is very cool. Give me a working title part Working
title play Rights? Okay, Working Title play Rights is a
new play incubator.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Relax.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
I thought it was so knocking. I was like, that
was already inside the apartment.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I know.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I'm like, we're doing a podcast Working Title play Rights.
It's a new play incubator and it's based in Atlanta.
They call themselves a support system for artists and they
are so they do all sorts of programming that kind
of like stacks into each other. I'm gonna tell you
about this, and you're gonna go gimme, gimme, gimme, I
want that. So what happens is on the first and

(47:23):
third Monday of every month, They're acting ensemble, which you
can audition for reads an excerpt from one of their
member play rights submissions. So on a Monday Night, you
can get an excerpt of your piece red. They also
have something called a Dead Playwrights Society, which is like
once a month they nerd out about someone which is
also on.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Brand I was.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Now, if you've gone through the Monday Night development workshop
where you had like a sample of your thing read
by the company, then you could submit for a full
draft to be read at their table series cool you
elevate it. Then there's something called the ethel Wo Wolson
Lamb and that's if you've gone through both of those things,
you can then have your draft fully staged in a
twenty nine hour process.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
That's huge.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
It's very very cool. They have like kind of like
resources for play r It's like they have a dramaturgy
service where you can like pay for and book like
a certain number of sessions to get kind of like
help with something. Their acting ensemble is super super cool,
like they say on their website, like, hey, if you
geek out over new works as an actor, like let
us know who you are. Email us. It's much like
the Playwright Center in Minneapolis. Is the energy I'm getting

(48:25):
from it. I don't know if you've seen that offered anywhere,
like dramaturgy services.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
No, I mean like once in a while I do,
but like it's very rare.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yeah. So they have like a one session package and
it's like, hey, they're going to read it and they're
going to give you five hours of time to make
notes and talk with you.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
That's so cool.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
And then there's like the three session and it's like
you get five hours plus ten hours plus whatever. So like,
I don't know, it's just very very cool.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
That is super cool.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
And they have apprenticeships. So they have an apprenticeship specifically
for new play dramaturgy, which, oh my my mi, that
sounds amazing. I wish I could have done something like that, playwriting,
arts admin and lots of other stuff. It's super cool.
They're amazing. Now, as stated, what's our biggest theater in
Atlanta that we think about?

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Alliance?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yes, yeah, yeah, we know her.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
We love her, love her.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
She's big for a reason.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
She started the prom started therehants started.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
There, so much started there. Guess what else has been there?
Because I was looking through I'm like, oh yeah, the
color Purple, i Eta Sister Act, Come from Away, Bring
it on, Stephen King and John Mellencamp's Ghost Brothers of
Darkland County. No way, guess that's on their list? Which
that came to West Virginia Public Theater.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
When we were there.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Dead It's published, I know, like Tuk ever Lasting Water
for Elephants, all this stuff, rightio, Do you know what
else came out of there?

Speaker 1 (49:37):
No?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
John Proctor is the villain.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
John Proctor's villain started that Alliance.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yes, because so they have a bunch of different programs.
Let me just walk you through them real quick, because
I know you want to hear me talk talk. So
they had this program called Classic Remix Nice, which sounds
like an easy listening channel on the radio. Yeah, it's not.
It's an Alliance theater thing nice And what happened Nice?
What happened?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Thank you. Classic Remix Project commissioned play Rights to create
new works that would revitalize and respond to classic literature
taught in high school curriculums.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
So essentially the powers that they were like, hey, these
teens are bored, right, And so Kimberly Bufflower got assigned
The Crucible by Arthur Miller and was like, how would
I get like high schoolers engaged? How would I revitalize
this piece.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
A lot?

Speaker 2 (50:24):
It was a It premiered, It had a rolling world premiere.
In their twenty twenty to twenty twenty one season.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Wow, crazy, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
They had a version of Romeo and Juliette Walden, a
Tale of Two Cities, a version of Richard the Third
which is called Sees the King that started an Alliance
which is now going to Broadway. Yeah, absolutely crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
So many shows there go to Broadway alliances. You could
argue Alliance is probably one of the top five theaters
in the country.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
It's churning out like sure, it's Alliance, It's Arena, it's Guthrie. Yeah,
you've got your your stuff in Chicago. Yeah, there's just
certain people where like that's where they're cooking at. So
a huge way in which they're cooking up what's new
and fresh hot that we want is they have the
Alliance Candetta National Graduate Playwriting Competition. It reminds me a
little bit of the the Yale one, but it's not

(51:09):
specific to Yell. It's any master's program, it's leading master's programs.
I shouldn't say any but essentially, if you are looking
to be in their season, you can get sort of
like nominated and be considered. So like Meg Moroschnick's on here,
who else do we have? We've got Moonlight by Kenneth Lynn,

(51:31):
which I think or no, it was actually in Moonlight
Black Boys like Blue inspired the movie Moonlight. But anyway,
people who come out of this this sort of competition
and win it like you know them. You know them
and you hear of them. It's sort of like a
cheat sheet like how like this isn't Smith Blackburom Prize
would be or like the Kilroy's like if you look
at the people who have won this competition or like
the Yale Drama series, like you just know who they are.

(51:52):
They also have something super super cool called the I
hope I'm pronouncing this right, The Racer or Riser Atlanta
Artist Lab. It started in twenty thirteen and it's essentially
just a way to give people money to make new work.
You get ten grand and it's about sort of like
forwarding the artistic identity of people who live in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
So again, if you're local to Atlanta, definitely, definitely chet
check out the Razor Atlanta Artists Lab. Applications for a
round eleven of it are open right now, right now.
There's a current cohort and it's three different new works
that are happening.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
That's sick.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yes, so again, if you live in Atlanta or you
live in Georgia, you know about Alliance stated, Yeah, I'm
not telling you anything new, but shoot your shot.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
You should.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
You should, absolute.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Shoot your shot. You gotta.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
They also have information on scrub submissions online. It's really
really buy and for local artists who live in the
state of Georgia, although they do mention that in you know,
really rare cases like you can make your case essentially
if you're like super accomplished and cool. If you are
in an MFA program at all for plarting, they say,
don't submit, go through the playerrating Award. Yeah, for the

(52:57):
MFA programs, but again, if you're a Georgia resident, they'll
listen to you. They have an email on the website
like pop it off. Uh huh. They also are really
really committed to local hires, which I'm learning means a
lot in Atlanta and the Georgia scene, I think because
a lot of people view it as like this third party,
this thing that's exported to you know, there's a lot
of like guest roles for people or supporting roles, but

(53:18):
then they're shipping in people from LA or New York.
Alliance is like we would like to do local. They
do local auditions, they have submissions open a general audition,
but they do also cast obviously other places. But they
do make a huge point of saying like, hey, that's
something we're trying to do. And then there's a ton
of like fellowship and internship opportunities that are all super awesome.
So check at the Alliance Theater the next to you.

(53:42):
I'm just going to kind of bang out out because
they all are mostly for new playwrights who live in Georgia,
which is super cool. There's something called Playhouse or I'm sorry,
Pumphouse play Rights. There's not a ton of information about it,
but essentially it's a program for Georgia play Rights to
get stage treadings done up their show. Pump House Players
is i believe based in Cartersville, Georgia. But again, it's

(54:05):
super easy to submit. There's just a website, it goes
to a committee. If you get picked, there's like a
few rehearsals, you get to ask questions, there's a public viewing,
people talk about it. It's just a really really great
way if you're in Georgia to get something red. Again,
that's pump House Players. There's also something called Atlanta Shakespeare
Co Which I.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Feel like I've heard of them before.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
You may have heard of it before. It's not dinner theater,
but I think it is dinner theater by a cooler name.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
So it's called America's Only Shakespeare Tavern Colon and Original
Practice Playhouse, which is like, huh, it's a tavern, so
they're serving you food, so it's dinner theater. But they're
like no, no, no, no, Like it's more than that. It's not
dinner theater. It's it's an original practice playhouse where it's

(54:56):
like no, because people would be here eating and standing
around and doing stuff, so that's kind of cool. Yeah,
it's it's like, what's that thing that everyone goes to
out here where you watch people jost It's not medieval times,
but it's not not medieval times.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
I got you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
That energy where I'm like, like, if you look at the photo,
I'm like, it looks like everyone's having a great time.
It looks like dinner theater, but it's not. It's America's
only practice.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Playhouse, practice playhouse. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I love that, So that's something to consider if you're
really into Shakespeare. They also have a pretty big apprenticeship
with like a lot to do. I don't can't really
speak to how like highly paid it is, but it
seems cool. More places to hit there is this place
called Theatrical Outfit. They're doing shows at seven Stage. They
have all their information about casting, Newark stuff, apprenticeships. They've

(55:48):
got open submissions on the website for playwrights as long
as they're you know, via Georgia and specifically Atlanta based
play Rights. Again, this entire episode for me is like,
if you are a playwright and you live in Georgia, congratulations,
you made it.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Huge, you did it. They also, you're kind of opening
in my head, Atlanta was always like a film and
TV place. You're kind of opening it up. I think
it's from for like theater and play rights.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
It absolutely is for like TV and film actors, but
even more so for stage actors. I'm like, this is
for play rights.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I can say it's not a bad place to go
if you're a playwright, like after college. Yeah, a lot
of opportunity.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
It feels like it's amazing. A couple of last ones
all hit. There's this place called True Colors Theater Org,
and they have this playwright search. It's the Drinking Gord.
Black writers at work, and one playwright will receive a
black play right, a ten thousand dollars commission each year.
So you would start your contract in March, you'd write
a new play by October. It's super cool. I'm just

(56:42):
gonna talk to you really quickly about a couple of
the playwrights that won last year. James Iams. Don't know
if you heard of them.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I never have.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
It's crazy and Ghazi and Yamwu. What was the play
I talked about last season?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Didn't she write for Color Color Girls?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
No? It was it was, oh gosh, she wrote Nike.
But that's not grief. It's the one hurt like best friend,
and it's like, well, there, won't they write super sad?
I talked about it last season. Yeah, amazing, amazing place.
They also partner with like different historically black theaters across
the country, so like the number is one that they
partner with on this Black Writers at Work, which is

(57:17):
a black theater based in Minneapolis, which obviously I've loved
for so True Colors Theater Company, Like, they've got the funding,
they're working with some of the best play rights in
the country. If you're a black playwright, if that's your scene,
if that's your community, get over there. Again, I've talked
a lot, but there is so much theater in Georgia, Like,
I'm not going to hit it all. That was a

(57:37):
good sampling of specifically people you can be helped for playwrighting.
But again, all of these playwrights, theaters, all of these
people who are like, we want to help young playwrights.
They need actors. There's also on all of their employments pages.
Sorry big plane above us.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Big plane. It's a big plane.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
There's also tons of employment opportunities for the box office
or for electricians or for whoever. So if you're like,
I don't know if this episode is for me, maybe
pull it up, just check, just check. A couple last
things to shout out of, like famous people from there
who create work about it. Alfre Yuri, who wrote Driving
Miss Daisy and the Atlanta Trilogy, won a Pulitzer last
night at Balley who very very famous Jewish playwright from Georgia,

(58:14):
El Gun. We already talked about Lauren Anderson. And then also,
like Tyler Perry is super beloved to the scene, and
I found out something new in twenty ten. He wrote
Medea's Big Happy Family, a stage play, and it was
something he began writing after his own mother died. It
was kind of like a like living representation of her.
And in twenty ten there was a DVD released of it,

(58:35):
of live recording.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Wait, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
I didn't know that either. So like his Tyler Perry's
like studios are in Georgia, their based there. But apparently
you can track down a DVD of the stage play
of Medea, which is super cool. Yeah, and I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Another play that's set there that folks might know. Mulatto,
a tragedy of the Deep South by Langston Hughes set
on a Georgia plantation, and then just a couple of
last things. It has like a banger improv scene. Again,
like there was so much to discuss about this. There's
also like musical set set in Georgia. What's the big one?
Not parade? What am I thinking of Georgia? I don't

(59:12):
think I'm thinking of the right one. Hang on, I
have a tab, but I have so many tabs up
at my computer just for us. But anyway, there's like
Dad's garage for improv. There's improp up the wazoo. My
friends who live in.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
I've worked with. I work with Dad's garage.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Yeah. Yeah, Like it's a really really good scene.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I have, Oh the color purple, purple, gone on the.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Wind, gone with the winds? What are the other ones?
I recognize scarlet, something called swamp gravy, which feels exciting. Yeah,
Parade by Alfred Jury.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
It's so the ballet Who Sat and Georgia.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah, that's that's uri. Yeah, No parade is this unless
I'm thinking of the wrong thing. Parade A musical with
a book by Alfred Jury, same guy last night at
Ballet Who with music and lyrics by Jason Robert Brown.
Dramatization of the nineteen thirteen trial of the nineteen fifteen
Los lunching in Georgia, yeah. So Georgia is again you
can see sort of like the the content that inspires

(01:00:06):
you can see that like everyone in the community has
doubled down on supporting the community.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yeah, I can't say that if you don't live in
Georgia it's going to be as helpful to you. But
you'll note that all of like the major players here
say like, you know, if you've got the street cred,
if you've got the stuff, like, we'll still take you.
But I do really really admire and respect the fact that,
like they are interested in growing their.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Own That's dope.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
It's very very cool. I can't say that alligators and
crocodiles co exist there, but I can say that. But
I can say that Atlanta loves play rights and Georgia
loves play rights.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
That's something I did not know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Georgia loves Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
That's so cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
So again, if you're that person who's like, I don't know,
don't all writers move to New York, or don't all
actors go to Chicago, or didn't Eric say to go
to Minneapolis, I don't know, think about what the state
has to offer you, right, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
I hope that's what this whole season is about I
hope the season is about like when you're at a
crucial point your career as an artists or when you're thinking,
like what do I do next? It doesn't have to
be like when I was like want to get into comedy,
I was told, Hey, the Chicago, New York, right, Lie,
those are your three options. But like there really is
options everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
There are ye, Like I ended up in Minneapolis Saint
Paul purely because like I had some people there. I
was one of the first, and I helped other people
join after. But like, you have to go somewhere where
there's community. Yeah, you can go and just have like
ambition and hustle and you can be really really good
to survive and thrive, you have to go somewhere type
of that wants you there or with people who will

(01:01:33):
have your back. Like, yeah, I just don't think anyone
makes art alone. And so a state like Georgia that
is like so beautifully caring and like nurturing and fostering
to their artists amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
It's a great idea out of ten.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
If you like new works, especially if you're a playwright,
get yourself over to Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
And that's very very dope.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
I hope that you have some boiling haunt truths and
lines for me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Oh, is it time? Unless you have anything to say, No,
I think it's totally time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I don't know if it's been an hour or five.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
It's been seventeen hours. Oh okay, now justin it's time.
Here the music, all right, let's lay one down.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
This is play disease, to Choose and a Lie, six
to a Lie, Lie, and the last songs tell lies
about the states talking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
About this is the one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
This is the one that's right aside for to choose
and the line la la la. I have some good ones.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
I'm scared. You're really good at this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
I have some really good ones. Okay, I'm ready, Okay,
you're ready? Yeah again. If you don't know, this is
the game of season three where we leave it, I
know it's the game for like three years, really three years?
Who wait's the game of season three. I'm gonna do
two cheers and lie facts about Georgia, and we'll see
if Erica's research did her well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Are you ready? The first one, there's a collection of
Elvis's Wartz stored at the Elvis Museum in Cornelia, Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Okay, feels true, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
The next one, there's a place called or there's a
trail called Doll's Head Trail, a creepy trail created by
a local carpenter where visitors are encouraged to find trash
and contribute to it to make it the creepiest it
can be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I want that to be true because that sounds like
something we would do together.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I know it doesn't sound cool. It sounds like you're
really but doesn't it sound like something that I will
because you'd want to, I'd want it. And the last
one is it is claimed I'm gonna butcher this name.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
It is something you do too. You've done this exactly before.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
No, I know, I know, but I am gonna I'm
gonna say this is I'm gonna butcher this. It is
claimed that the Okafki Swamp Swamp is home to the
swamp Man, a man that is twelve tall covered in
swamp green. This this cryptid later inspire the D. C.
Batman villain, the Swamp Thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I know you've literally lied about something like this before
because you like cryptids and you like you like your
tactic to make me think it's true, But would you
do the same thing twice?

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I don't know. So Warts, there's a collection I don't
want to go through him again collection, the Collection of
Elvis's War They histored at the Elvis Museum in the Cornelia, Georgia.
There's a place called Doll's Head Trail at Creepy Trail,
created by a local carpenter, where visitors are encouraged to
find trash and contribute it, contribute it to the trail

(01:04:39):
and then and it's claimed that the Oka Faniki Swamp
is home to the swamp Man, a man that's twelve
feet tall covered in swamp green. Later, this this cryptid
later inspired the DC villain the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Swamp Thing that sounds real too. Okay, Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Elvis Warp, Creepy Doll, swamp Man, Creepy Doll Trail, Elvis Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
My initial My initial guess is that the Warts are
not true.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
My second thing is that two and three are so
on brand for you that it feels like something you'd
make up, because when you make stuff up, you want
to talk about stuff you like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Yeah, I do, but that's how you get me. Yeah,
you'd know that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
And you think I'm just gonna make up a random thing. Yeah, okay,
I'm going to live in the world that I want
to live in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Yeah, the warts are the lie. Worts are the lie. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Am I right?

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
My God's true? He keep them and then they were like,
I guess we'll keep keeping them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
No, like he was super famous he had warts on
his hands and his arms or whatever, and that he
had them surgically taken off, and the doctor kept them.
And then when he passed away, the doctor gave them
to the musium.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I thought you're gonna say he sold them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
No, the doctor like gave them to the museum. Yeah,
I know. And then the dolls head trail is all
so true. The the swamp man I just made up.
I I did the same thing. I will say, Okai,
swamp is real, Okay, like the name of the swamp.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
That's not like what I got in trouble for.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
I I just I do use something real to set
up a context.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I just couldn't think of a fake swamp name that
like sounded good. I had an idea for a couple
of swamp names. One was dukie dukie swamp. But I
was like, that sounds like a lie immediately, and then
I was like and then I literally in my notes
that for like ten minutes it was the dirty swamp,
which I was like, no one's gonna call a swamp
the dirty swamp sounds like a dive bar. Yeah, so

(01:06:39):
I looked up swamps in Georgia and Okikiki swamp popped up,
and I was like, Okay, that's fine, that was good.
But yeah, that cryptid is fully made up. It's it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Every time you say the word cryptid, I just did go.
And that's the one you just want to work in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Crypto, I know, I thought, I, you know, it's funny, though,
I I thought, what would get you, what would make
it feel true? Is that like it was it inspired
a real thing. It inspiring the swamp thing from Batman.
That was good in my head. I was like, oh,
that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Like it was also your longest one, which you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Know, yeah, and the War one was my shortest, and
that's why I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Did Florida as my shortest. It's a tricky I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Can't believe I did it. I can't believe My third
pick was from Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
One of our lies and truth always has to be
about Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Did you know he was a twin.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Or is he.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
He is?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Okay, that's good. Yeah, I got you, you got got
but I got you last time. And these are for me.
Thank you, thank you so much, thank you. We shout
out succoon right we did okay, good, we got to
make it back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Shout out Justin for lying and being good at it.
Classive classic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
There we go, and shout out Erica for doing a
voice that I like.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
What's up everybody?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
That's enough. Thank you guys, don't for listening to play
to Z you for listening.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
George is a banger and George there, I know you've
got the scoop.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Yeah, legit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Please like tell me anything that you're like, oh my god,
she totally missed this. Just about it or talk about
it on another episode.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, that's awesome. Check it out. Like if you're in Georgia,
you should have a thousand opportunities.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Regrett not going to Georgia when we were at w
because it was the closest I ban in a long time.
I have a little bit of family in Atlanta and
I want to go to publics.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
I know, yeah, I feel that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Yeah, publics.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yeah, but thank you shout up and shout out public I'd.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Ever been there, but I'm obsessed with grocery stors and
gas stations.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
You are just like them so much. But yeah, but
thank you so much for listening to the podcast. You
can follow us on Instagram at Justin Borak, at actual
er Cocoon. You can rate, review and subscribe to the
podcast on Apple on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify. Wherever you listen,
make sure you TikTok is probably dead at this point,
so if it's not. Read our plays go to New

(01:08:59):
play Change. We'd Kill a Bird, a brilliant play by
Eric Raccoon. Read Our My Steps on New plate Change,
or check out Cabin Chronicles and Community Garden. They're both
the playscripts. You can read them and produce them and
all that stuff. That'd be awesome. Go see theater, especially
if you're in Georgia. There's some really really cool theater
coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Read stuff. Go make theater in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Go make theater in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
You to go down there and write.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Yeah, and if you're in New York, go see if
you see one of the shows that we shouted out
at the beginning shows that we're excited about this year.
She's a dam let's not because we belowd to hear
what you think. We're excited to see that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
And go see Static hid by Ryan Stevens.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Yeah, go see Static. That's so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
It's like a rare time that we're actually banked to
the right amount where we can talk.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Current and it's not going to be there for a
long time. Yeah, but yeah, go see Ryan's play. I'll
put a link one of the links that I always
put a bunch of links in the description of like
different things we talked about. One of the links will
be to that, so you can go into the description
of this podcast and click a link and see Ryan's
play at Emory University. Please go do that, and thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
For listening to us and on new year and a
new season.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
So much for listening. Next week will be in ooh,
it's it's sunny because we're in Hawaii. We're officially okay,
Can I say something? Yeah, I think the alphabet is
in three parts. It's A through G, yeah, H through
P or H through Q and a C Q yeah yeah,

(01:10:18):
H through Q and then R to the end.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Okay, cool, So we don't know why, but is that
where you pause and the song.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Is that why we think that A B, C, D E,
F G H I, j K, element O, P Q,
R S T. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. So
that's why I was kind of weird on the Q.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
In the R, I agree with you, though, this is
kind of the end to approach middle ground.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah, where I think we're officially going to be a
middle ground next episode. I think Hawaii is the beginning.
And let me say, Hawaii is weird. I've already done
my research for it. It's cool. It's really really cool.
It's weird. There's not a ton but there's a lot
of like, uh, very cool, like culturally significant show history
and history. But yeah, but yeah, thank you so much
for listening. And I'm gonna end this episode the way

(01:10:58):
another episode. But I look at my friend Big Blue
Eyes saying, Erica Kuon, thank you for all the yummy,
yummy information and I love you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Justin Borak, thank you for once again listening to my voice.
I love you so much. Bye bye,

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