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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of plug Talk. My
name is Adam twenty two. I am joined by my
unbelievably beautiful wife, one of the plug hi guys today unbelievable,
and we're having a sit down with somebody who has
quite a backstory. They're kind of new to the adult game,
but Lenna and I are massive fans of her already.
(00:34):
We definitely think she's a cutie. Ava Amira, how are
you feeling.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I feel good, I feel great. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Guys, we're excited to have you here. And uh, we're
we're kind of wowed by some of the info on
your information sheet. There's a lot of good stuff that
we're going to get to by the end of.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
This interview, by a lot of things. I've been talking
to her for like twenty minutes. She's like, I'm nervous,
I'm shy.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I'm like no, we're really like, you're doing it already.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I have like word vomited in that sheet. To be
honest with you, I.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Was like, you have to understand that as an adult performer.
It's kind of like being shy is for people who
have shame, and you can't really afford to have too
much shy as an adult entertainer.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
I can like spread my ass on camera, but like
I just if I have to talk about myself, I'm like,
oh my.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
God, I do feel Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Definitely a lot of girls that we have on here
I would say are much more comfortable having sex than speaking.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, why is that?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think everyone's afraid of public speaking, and.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
For most people that would be the polar opposite. But
in this world, you got a bunch of people who are.
It's kind of like you see a pro athlete, you know,
you watch the NBA player do the interview after the game,
and you kind of realize, like, oh, this motherfucker got
a ninth grade education, but really good to getting the
ball in the hole. Yeah, a lot of porn stars
really good at fucking. Not necessarily, you know, word technicians.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I think there's just.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
So many more ways to critique for someone for what
they say or how they speak, versus like how you
sucked it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Most people are like, she was good at it. She
was bad at it.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
But when someone makes a statement, there's just so many
more opinions you can give. Yeah, and that is a
little more daunting than just like, yeah, just sucking dick
like whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Definitely, I think about the comments while I'm sucking. It
motivates it makes me, yeah, because I wish I could
just have like the chat right there, you guys, I'm
doing good. Keep glancing at it. We've tried.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah, we've done it a few times, but it's it's
a little distracting the chat.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, well, especially because we've always had it. So they
can donate. So it's like, you know, she's riding you
feels so good, you're so into it, and it's like
so and so donated five dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I did an o F stream the other day and
now you can like post gifts and some of the
guys were like, can you turn the gifts off?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Like I feel like they're trying to masturb me. The
gifts are a little distracting in the comments.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yea, yeah, and I'm like, I'm sorry, gifts.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Off for sure. So, okay, tell us a little bit
about where you're from.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Okay, So I was born in Iraq, whoa Okay, and
then I was born.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, so I was born there, moved to Yemen for
a year.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Then we had to leave because of the war obviously,
because of everything that was going on, so we like
escaped again and we went.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
To London, England.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
At what age, I was six when I left Iraq,
So I think I left Yemen when I was seven.
It's very like blurry because I moved around so much
in my life. Right then in England, I stayed there
from grade four and grade five. Left England because they
were like, well so that was saying not in office anymore,
like you're good to go back, let's go back, and
we're like, oh hell tho, like we're not going back.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
So we went to Halifax, Nova, Scotia, then Toronto, Okay,
and then from there I kind of kept hopping around.
So I lived in Costarica for two years, left Costa
Rica and then started traveling just kind of solo month here.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Month there.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So you spent your teen years where Toronto, I would say,
So that's kind of like where you did your process
to becoming an adult in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Okay, Wow, that is quite the backstory right there. Yeah,
that's so crazy. You're from Iraq and all of a sudden
you're moving to Nova Scotia.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Even like doing this, it's like I was born in
Baghdad and then all of a sudden, I'm like on
camera because sex, It's like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Your life could have gone in many different ways that
would not have involved the Orange Couch.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I mean, I'm so happy to be on the Orange couch.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
We're happy to have you. Okay. So when you look
back to that time period in your life, was there
any kind of indication that you would ever go into
becoming a sex worker or what were you thinking they
were going to do with your life at that time.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I mean, I've always been so fascinated by sex work,
like my whole life. I just like, as soon as
I turned eighteen, I was like, I'm going to be
a strippers. I went to the strip club. I worked
two shifts, and I was like, this is sewn up
for me because.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
In Toronto, in Toronto, and you hate it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Why, I just was like so nervous.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
I was working McDonald's and then also I was like
a stripper on the weekend, you know, so I was like,
I don't know, like I'm kind of having an identity crisis,
but I knew that, like I wanted to be in
sex works, I just had to find my niche.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Wow, what was the biggest thing that was a no
for you? At the strip club?
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I had this guy like be like, oh, you remind
me so much of my daughter. And I was like,
oh fuck no, I was like absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I mean there's a possibility that he was saying that
in like a non sexual way.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
He was like, let me get you out of this,
like you remind me so much of my daughter. And
then he went and like went on about his life,
and you know, they give you like he's just running
time and I'm like shaking.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
My ass and I'm like, okay, you got to pay
another twenty dollars. It's been another stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Do a lot of guys hit you with the like
let me save you angle. Really, I feel like I'm
the type it would be doing that. God, thank you
for saving me. I would. I would so be that guy.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I don't used to tell me all the time I
saved you.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's true, but also like man, like a huge stripper,
like I just start falling for him. I would hope
that like my you know, ability to resist that is
higher now but before you.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
But you would never.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Try to sell a stripper to not strip. You would
just like fall for them.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
No, she's got to stop. Yeah, oh wow, she could
do porn, she can't strip.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I feel like you're I know, you're very, very conventionally attractive,
and you probably get the comments all the time of
like you don't have to do porn.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
You could do more than porn, And I.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Feel like you probably got it worse at the strip
club because of that.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Well, it's so like intimate at this strip club there
you're like face to face with this guy, like he
has you in a room, you know what I mean,
Whereas like in the comments are just talking.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's the thing I would have a hard time whether
if I was a girl. It's like it's one thing
to shake your ass for the camera and have one
hundred thousand guys see it on the internet, but like
having to be face to face with one of them
as he tells you that he wants to save you.
I don't know. Yeah, did you feel like you were well,
that you were like very pretty? Did you get that
kind of attention when you were in high school and
stuff or now.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
I was really shy in high school, but I don't know.
I mean, I was like a scene kids. I listened
to like a lot of rock music, so I had
like the crazy eyeliner and the way top hair.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Do you have photos from this era?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I don't. They're scrapped with it, I know. I hate that.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I tried to look at my photo book at the
other night and I couldn't get in.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I was kind of like a scene kid. I had.
I dyed my hair black at one point, you know,
I was like really, yeah, but like those pictures like,
I don't, I haven't seen them.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You know, where are they now?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean, I guess they're not my space.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Your sister but she has one somewhere.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Wow, that's funny. So you were hanging out like band
dudes or not.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Yeah. I really loved hanging out with bandits. And then
for some reason, they were all like way older than
me when I was in high school, Like they'd be
like twenty four, and I'm like, I'm like, why is
this weird?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Like I was having so much fun. I was.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's quite the age different.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Solely, shit, I need my space but we just had yeah,
kind of like we'd meet up my space at the beach.
Sometimes there was like a big like bonfire community in
the east side of Toronto, and uh, we would just
like kind of go and drink there. And my mom
would be like, where are you going? Like she'd get
so mad, and I would tell her like, I'm just
hanging out with these guys. They're really nice, They're not
doing anything. And then I look back now and I'm like,
(07:47):
that's kind of really fucked up.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, So how long did you So you lasted two
days as a stripper? That wasn't for you. What do
you try after that? So?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I worked a lot of restaurants.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Okay, so equipment Donald started hosting at a restaurant serving bartending.
Then that led me into opening. It led me to
opening STK in Toronto in twenty sixteen. So I started
there as a cocktail server. I had like no fine
dining experience, and then I gradually moved up.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Then I was like, this is boring, So I started
doing bottle service.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Had so much fun doing bottle service, and then this
other job kind of fell into my lap where I
was helping of creators like make content and like help
them with the back end of like doing the content
and stuff. So I did that for two years, and
that's when I learned.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The back end of the industry in a way, and I.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Was like, why am I running after these girls who
do their customs. I was like, I can just do
my own thing.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You just started to realize, like, I mean, if you
work in the only fans world from day one, I know,
with our employees, it's like everybody asks them like, have
you ever had only fans? You ever think about starting
only fans even though they're not interested? But so I'm
sure people were mentioning it all the time.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Yeah, I mean I always had an only fans. I
used to post on Reddit and shit like kind of
like no face content just for the attention because I
liked it, like, oh a way to get comments and like,
you know.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
The same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
A lot of girls have told us that that's kind
of how they got started. It was posting on Reddit.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah, John wild on your only fans that you had
when you were a no Phase creator, were you masturbating
and doing solos or just taking pictures?
Speaker 6 (09:15):
I didn't know what the hell I was doing in
twenty twenty, so I would like my subscription fee was
like twenty six dollars or something ridiculous, like.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
The max you could do. And then I would just
like send out nudes.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I would send out like sex tapes, and I would
barely PPV anything, So I like literally just like tank
the page.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I had no clue what I was doing. And then
I'm like, there has to be a different way to
do this, And you were just using Reddit to promote yourself.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, and then they would shadow ban you on Reddit now,
like if you start posting too much. So I think
my page got shadowy and I kind of like gave up.
But after the Bottle Service job, when I started doing that,
I would go live with my clients and like on
my own page just to kind of like help them
because they were so nervous to like be interacting with
their fans alone, if that makes sense, because I always
(10:00):
was hopping them out, and so I would go live
with them. People would come to my page and I
started just doing custom content because I didn't want a
PPV anything. I didn't want my agency being like you're
taking all the like spenders from the page. I was like,
I'm just going to go and do custom content.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And here we are.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay, So during COVID you did you start to like
kind of ramp it up or you were doing only
fans during COVID or that was my.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
I'd like for like two months. Okay, yeah, this is
like way after.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
This is like, so what made you want to go
from what you were doing to taking the mask off
and being a creator who shows their face and shooting
for a company.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Honestly, I just always wanted to do it.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
I've always been fascinated by it, and so I was like,
okay now or never I got out of a relationship,
I was like, I have to just kind of fend
for myself.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
This is what I've always wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So when was the breakup?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
May last year?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Okay, so you've been single for like a year.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I'm like really bad at being single, so I'll like
get into situationships and then so technically technically officially officially single,
like since I would say like mid January.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Okay. And so the relationship thing though, like why would
you say you keep ending up in relationships? You're just
like a romantic or.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
He's got a hard time saying hang out with a
guy all the time and like just shooting the shit.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
It's so fun.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But well, you can't be the kind of girl who's
just got like a roster and you hang out with
a different guy every night. I wish you just fall
into it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I tried the roster thing, you know, I tried in
my twenties, and it was fun. Like my conscieurge in
my building was like, who's this week, you know, like
it's like a rotation of two.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh my god, that's such a bad feeling. I used
to like have the bar near my house, like I'm
talking like twenty twelve right now, but I used to
bring a different girl off tender there like so often
that like the bartenders start kind of like rolling their
eyes at you, like, okay, I don't like this is
getting at lot of control, Like it's Thursday and this
is your fourth girl that you brought here this but yeah,
that's kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It gets like exhausting to like have to.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It's just got lost in a sad moment.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I was having a great time. I'm glad I left
him behind, But if I was still doing it right now,
then it would be sad.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah for everyone.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Yeah, well, you know, I mean, I know people who
still do it at that age.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's just if you just fuck too many people, it
just starts to turn into just a big blur. Like,
especially during that period of my life, I can't remember
what the fuck I was doing, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I don't remember one's names, anyone's face.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah. But okay, so in the back of your head
you were always contemplating like, oh, maybe I'll just do
porn one day, or how did that?
Speaker 6 (12:40):
I always wanted to do it, So just to give
you like a timeframe of how long ago I wanted
to do this was like James Dean era, Like I
was like, oh, I'm going to plan on the website,
and so I did, because you can do like collapse with.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Him just as a fan, and so I applied.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
He gets canceled or like, I don't remember what happened
to him, but something happened, and I remember I was like, okay, well,
I can't go now again in a relationship. I start
doing my rotation of guys. So I was like, I'm
too busy, I'm having too much.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So you almost did this like ten plus years ago.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Wow, yea, And then I swear like the universe aligned
for all of this to happen, because my first scene
was like Browsers and I was introduced to Kieren and
like everything just kind of like snowballed from there.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
How did you start that conversation in terms of doing
actual porn and talking to Browsers or whatever.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
I had a friend introduced me to Karen Lee, okay,
and Kieren Lee introduced me to Browsers.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Legend in the game by the way.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Incredible, the best guy ever.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I loved him. So he was an awesome scene partner
from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, I mean we just shot our scene. But my
first scene was with Mick Blue.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Okay, yeah. Nice. Yeah, So Browsers like just kind of
latched on. They were like, hey, we would love to
be your debut.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Yeah, they were super nice. I was honestly shocked. I
was like, what is happening. I'm like, there's no freaking way.
They're like, okay, like let's have you in on these days.
So I flew back from Columbia. I was at Columbia
at the time, and I land and then I just
started like dming people and like do you want to
a collab with one person? They tell another person and
then it just kind of kept going and going, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Like, how was it being on set for Browsers and
just like being in front of all those cameras and lights.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I love it. I love it. I'm like, oh my god,
the attentions all on me. I love it. I don't know, Yeah,
we're getting your no.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
But I used to go to sex parties and shit,
like I used to like, I genuinely like being watched,
and my axe used to like watch me, like to
watch me get fucked.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
So I love the guys. Okay, record myself.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Give me a good sex party story of what this
is actually like, because I think we've thought about it,
never actually really fall through. Yeah, And I have friends
who are like totally normal people who will ask me like,
so you go to sex parties? And then I kind
of find out later like, oh, they go to sex parties.
That's why they're asking you. They think that you go
because you're a porn star. They're normal people and they
go to sex prizes. Okay, So give me just like
(14:56):
a crazy night or like he'd liked to see you
get fucked. How many guys fuck do in a night
that this guy would be watching?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
God, I don't remember like how many exactly, but a bunch,
but he would also be having sex, you know. But
then I realized like whenever our relationship would kind of
die off and we'd stop having sex, is when I
was the most committed to him. So I started to
just like fuck other guys on the side, record it,
send it to him, go home, and fuck him like
it was this. And then I realized that I was like, oh, maybe,
(15:22):
like he's a bit of a cook in a sense
that he wanted to watch me have sex with other people.
But he didn't like the humiliation aspect. So when I
started to like do the humiliation stuff, he hated.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
It describes humiliation stuff because a lot of people they.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Don't like degrade him, like be like, oh, like I
like fucking this guy so much better than you.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
He would always.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Ask, that's his line, all right. He didn't like that
because's a lot of like people don't really know how
to differentiate between hot wifing and cooking.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Maybe it is hot wifing then yeah, if.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He doesn't want to be treated poorly in the whole dynamic,
then I think hot wifing is more of a term
that would be appropriate. Yeah, Okay, this jumps out at
me and I just want to make sure that we
talk about this so we don't miss it. But you
lost your virginity to the Weekend. Okay, that is hilarious
to me.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You know that he took your virginity. I didn't let
him know at the time, losing.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Your virginity to someone that famous.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
But he wasn't famous at the time. Oh the Balloons era.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Now this is interesting. So was he still like a
faceless creator at the time. No way.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
We met in high school when I was thirteen.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And he was in high school.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
We went to the same high school, but he had
dropped out at the time. But I was friends with
Lamar and all those guys, okay, and so we'd like
we hung out one spring break. I guess you guys
call it spring break. We call it March break in Canada.
And then he just kept like using MSN, which is
our version of AIM, like just chatting here and there,
and I stayed in touch, and then he sent me
(16:46):
half of Balloons and I was like, god, damn, I'm
like this is good, you know, because he's had other
music projects before where I was like eh, but I
was like, this is really good.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So I'm like going to fuck him. So I did. Yeah,
I mean it wasn't romantic at all.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Like we met up at a bar. I was seventeen
at the time. He's only two years older than me.
And we met up at the bar. It was called
good night. We walked down the road. He's like, oh,
let me take you to my apartment. Forgot his keys.
I assume he didn't. It wasn't even his apartment. I
don't know, but we fucked.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
We fucked on the like outside, like balcony was on
the main floor.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Wait, but so he couldn't get into his apartment, so
you fucked on where, like outside.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Outside the apartment, Like, yeah, that's I know. He's like,
you can be loud.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
I was like in my head, I'm like, I can't
believe I'm moving my originally of this fucking guy that
I've been ignoring since That was good And.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So at that time, you're thinking, like, he's a cool guy.
He's a hot guy, I guess, but he's not a
big deal in your mind, Like you didn't really have
a reason to think that this guy was going to
become one of the biggest musicians of all times.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I had no idea I had no idea.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
But then like while we were talking, he was like,
I wrote Drake's album, like I wrote take Care and
like all that.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You know that whole Okay, he wrote some songs was
on take Care. Just to be clear. Yeah, a lot
of a lot of misinformation about this. Well, allegedly I'm
a Drake stance, so I gotta I gotta take it side.
Holy shit. So okay, but there was other You had
other crazy names too, the Bieber thing. How old were
you when the Bieber things?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
You talk about this of course, okay, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Bieber, send the season desist. We'll take it down. It'll
already be on all the blogs. It'll be fine. No,
you're not clocking me. I'm standing on business. You're not
clocking then, I'm standing on business right now.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Okay, I'm uncomfortable with this conversation.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I was like, should I put this in the notes?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So I was like, fuck, maybe this might be what
puts him over the edge, because he's teetering right now.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Stop. Yeah, that was twenty sixteen. I was working in
a restaurant. He came in. I didn't serve him. I
asked my manager if I could just go say hi.
He was like that girl. Yeah, like I've been looking
at her and night I go over.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
We're just shooting the ship, like just talking and then
he's like, add your number to my phone. So I
take his phone. I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
So I'm like I took his pone in my hands
like this, I'm like shaking. And then I went to
finish my shift, went to his hotel, which was commediately
across the street from my work, and we watched Suicide.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Squad okay for how long till like six am?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Wait? So you started watching it at what time?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I would say, like midnight? Like was when I finished
my shift? I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Six hours watching TV? And how does it turn into sex?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It just he was eating a chicken breast.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So at one point you initiated it. Yeah, a plane
chicken breast.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
No, I didn't. I didn't order the chicken breast. He
was just eating the chicken.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
He just had a single plane chicken breast. No sauce.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I don't think so what Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Bieber, I don't know how was it?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
It was great?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He was. He's like a passionate lever.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
He's he's so beautiful whereas like I want someone to
beat the shit out of me.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So I was like, oh, you know, so it was
kind of a letdown or was it sort of fun?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I mean I wish.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
I think he just had to be respectful because like
he could, I could sue him if he beat the
show on me.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
So he was very nice. It was very nice because
I didn't sign anything. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, if you're gonna have like crazy violence sex maybe time,
not with a stranger, you gotta have some kind of
consent form signed. If you're in his position, maybe.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You know each other. You can't just assume a girl
wants that.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
No, I know, And I looked so sweet in it,
incent like you would never know that. I'm like, run
me over with your car kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know, run me over with your car is crazy.
So did you guys sleep together again after that? Or
is this the one time?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
No? Actually, So the next day I texted him. I
was like, did I leave my ear rings?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I had my earrings?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Let me tell you wow, and let me send someone.
He's like, no, you don't have your earrings. Didn't hear
from him then? Two weeks I would say, two weeks later,
I don't remember I get like six missed calls, like
on facetimed text messages whatever, and I'm like, what the
fuck is going on. I was living with my ex
boyfriend at the time. We had broken up, but we
were still living together. So my phone's blowing up and
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he's like, what the fuck's going on? I look and
it's Justin and I'm like, okay, let me get ready
and call him. So I get ready, run downstairs because
downstairs was my work. I lived in the same building.
I answered the call and I was like, hey, like
what's up. He's like, oh, just checking in on you,
Like how are you doing. I'm in Barcelona. I was like, well,
I'm about to network, like get to chat whatever. He's like,
(21:24):
call me when you're done work. So I call him
back and he was getting a massage. I think he's
I want to say Barcelona and.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He's like, I'll call you later. I'll call you later.
I was like, okay. Never heard from him again, but
I checked himc I was like, what is he doing there?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
He had punched like like some paparazzi outside of a
taxi that night or like that day, so I'm like, oh,
he's like spiraling.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, I vaguely remember this, but this was twenty sixteen.
It was kind of a reminder that just a men
while in for like ten years.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, it was so bad for him.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Wow, I know. Would you say overall that famous people
are better or worse at sex?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Ooh?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I mean now after being ran through in the porn industry,
I would say they're worse at sex.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But well, I mean, but you're comparing them to dudes
who literally fuck for a living. Yeah, this is like
the only thing that they have to be good at
to do good in life, and they wouldn't have gone
into this career if they weren't good at it. So
it does seem kind of unfair to compare them. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Yeah, compared to civilians, I would say with the With
the civilians, it's like, okay, you build a report, then
you start to have They got to work for it,
yeah exactly, well not even work for it, but you
just get to know the person, whereas if it's a
random celebrity, he fucked once, you pucked twice and then
it's kind of done, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So if you weren't even thinking about like hmm, maybe
I could be just in Bieber's girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
No, I know better see it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You gotta be more aspirational because Haley Bieber, she could
have fucking had the same perspective. She could have been like,
I'm gonna throw away.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I'm not going to want to be missus Bieber.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I mean, you tell me a lot of girls would
kill for the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I was never a believer. I did. I was a believer.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Or fucking up child you guys really I'm like, oh god,
please don't let him watch this.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Yeah, No, I was never I was never like a
big believer girl.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So I just did it because I was like for
the plot. Why not?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So have you left the celebrity thing alone in the
last ten years or no? I mean those are pretty
big shoes to fill once you've done the weekend in Bieber.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I mean, who do you go to after?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, you gotta fuck. I don't know. Drake obviously is
up there.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
With them, but never slept with Drake.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Still kind of in that territory. You never put that
on your bucket list.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Like living in Toronto for that long, I've had many
like run ins with Drake, but I've never like been
hit on by Drake, which kind of like hurts my feelings.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
But I just don't think I'm his type.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I even slid in his DMS once and he like
never answered me, but he answered my friend that we
slid in and said the exact same thing at the
same time, and we thought would be so funny.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You know, he can't be the only person answering those
dms right like this just seems like it's just too
many girls hitting them up, too many rappers hitting them up.
Like it just seems like it would be so overwhelming.
M the fact that you like response to me consistently too,
I'm like, how do you like? How are you keeping
track all? I just feel like I would probably get
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an assistant at one point, and a lot of these guys,
I don't know if he does, but a lot of
these guys have pussy assistance.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
You like, put the hot girls in primary, like the
ones you're like general.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
The other ones who knows. Okay, So now you're in
the porn world. You've only shot two months worth of
the scenes. How many times you shot?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I think I've shot three mainstreams so far and I
have two coming up. I believe but I've done a
ton of collapse.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
It's kind of difficult to work as a Canadian.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Really, so you can't stay out here for too long.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Well, I need a working visa, so I'm just like
waiting to shoot stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So you come out here and you shoot, but you
just have to kind of cram it into these like
relatively short trips.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah, but I am saying I'm officially moving. Okay, moving
to Ardno Beach.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Wow, congrats. So you think you're gonna like really push
this thing to the limit. Are you trying to do
all the porn star stuff.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I'm trying to, but I'm trying to space it out.
So I'm not gonna do anal until I do like
a showcase. Like I'm just gonna like be really smart
and strategic about how I pushed my my content out
and this type of content I do for sure. I
Mean it helps so much that I work the back end,
So I kind of understand. Don't start with the dpcne
you know, because then you're gonna bottom out.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Oh my gosh. When we hear girls like their first
scene was an anal or game.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, like you girls literally have told us that they
first seen was a four guy anal gang bang, and.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's just like yeah, whoa yeah, like where do you
go from there?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
So people who book you for that are so fucked up.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I love the idea of working in Only Evans Management
before becoming Only Evans Star, just because it's like you're
kind of like playing the video game without any skin
in the game, and then at a certain point you
were making a decision already knowing basically what this is
going to.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Be like exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Yeah, I mean I had no idea this was going
to happen, but like, here we are, you know, here
you are.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Have you ever done a girl girl guy through some
on camera?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I have you?
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Yeah, I did a live stream and we recorded it
as well.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So that's really.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Beautiful, amazing. All right, well, Lenna, any other questions, I
don't think so ready to get into it? Yeah, all right,
let's go.
Yay.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of plug Talk. My
name is Adam twenty two. I am joined by my
unbelievably beautiful wife, one of the plug hi guys today unbelievable,
and we're having a sit down with somebody who has
quite a backstory. They're kind of new to the adult game,
but Lenna and I are massive fans of her already.
(00:34):
We definitely think she's a cutie. Ava Amira, how are
you feeling.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I feel good, I feel great. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Guys, we're excited to have you here. And uh, we're
we're kind of wowed by some of the info on
your information sheet. There's a lot of good stuff that
we're going to get to by the end of.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
This interview, by a lot of things. I've been talking
to her for like twenty minutes. She's like, I'm nervous,
I'm shy.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I'm like no, we're really like, you're doing it already.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I have like word vomited in that sheet. To be
honest with you, I.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Was like, you have to understand that as an adult performer.
It's kind of like being shy is for people who
have shame, and you can't really afford to have too
much shy as an adult entertainer.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
I can like spread my ass on camera, but like
I just if I have to talk about myself, I'm like,
oh my.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
God, I do feel Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Definitely a lot of girls that we have on here
I would say are much more comfortable having sex than speaking.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, why is that?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think everyone's afraid of public speaking, and.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
For most people that would be the polar opposite. But
in this world, you got a bunch of people who are.
It's kind of like you see a pro athlete, you know,
you watch the NBA player do the interview after the game,
and you kind of realize, like, oh, this motherfucker got
a ninth grade education, but really good to getting the
ball in the hole. Yeah, a lot of porn stars
really good at fucking. Not necessarily, you know, word technicians.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I think there's just.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
So many more ways to critique for someone for what
they say or how they speak, versus like how you
sucked it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Most people are like, she was good at it. She
was bad at it.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
But when someone makes a statement, there's just so many
more opinions you can give. Yeah, and that is a
little more daunting than just like, yeah, just sucking dick
like whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Definitely, I think about the comments while I'm sucking. It
motivates it makes me, yeah, because I wish I could
just have like the chat right there, you guys, I'm
doing good. Keep glancing at it. We've tried.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah, we've done it a few times, but it's it's
a little distracting the chat.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, well, especially because we've always had it. So they
can donate. So it's like, you know, she's riding you
feels so good, you're so into it, and it's like
so and so donated five dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I did an o F stream the other day and
now you can like post gifts and some of the
guys were like, can you turn the gifts off?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Like I feel like they're trying to masturb me. The
gifts are a little distracting in the comments.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yea, yeah, and I'm like, I'm sorry, gifts.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Off for sure. So, okay, tell us a little bit
about where you're from.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Okay, So I was born in Iraq, whoa Okay, and
then I was born.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, so I was born there, moved to Yemen for
a year.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Then we had to leave because of the war obviously,
because of everything that was going on, so we like
escaped again and we went.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
To London, England.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
At what age, I was six when I left Iraq,
So I think I left Yemen when I was seven.
It's very like blurry because I moved around so much
in my life. Right then in England, I stayed there
from grade four and grade five. Left England because they
were like, well so that was saying not in office anymore,
like you're good to go back, let's go back, and
we're like, oh hell tho, like we're not going back.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
So we went to Halifax, Nova, Scotia, then Toronto, Okay,
and then from there I kind of kept hopping around.
So I lived in Costarica for two years, left Costa
Rica and then started traveling just kind of solo month here.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Month there.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So you spent your teen years where Toronto, I would say,
So that's kind of like where you did your process
to becoming an adult in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Okay, Wow, that is quite the backstory right there. Yeah,
that's so crazy. You're from Iraq and all of a sudden
you're moving to Nova Scotia.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Even like doing this, it's like I was born in
Baghdad and then all of a sudden, I'm like on
camera because sex, It's like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Your life could have gone in many different ways that
would not have involved the Orange Couch.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I mean, I'm so happy to be on the Orange couch.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
We're happy to have you. Okay. So when you look
back to that time period in your life, was there
any kind of indication that you would ever go into
becoming a sex worker or what were you thinking they
were going to do with your life at that time.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I mean, I've always been so fascinated by sex work,
like my whole life. I just like, as soon as
I turned eighteen, I was like, I'm going to be
a strippers. I went to the strip club. I worked
two shifts, and I was like, this is sewn up
for me because.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
In Toronto, in Toronto, and you hate it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Why, I just was like so nervous.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
I was working McDonald's and then also I was like
a stripper on the weekend, you know, so I was like,
I don't know, like I'm kind of having an identity crisis,
but I knew that, like I wanted to be in
sex works, I just had to find my niche.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Wow, what was the biggest thing that was a no
for you? At the strip club?
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I had this guy like be like, oh, you remind
me so much of my daughter. And I was like,
oh fuck no, I was like absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I mean there's a possibility that he was saying that
in like a non sexual way.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
He was like, let me get you out of this,
like you remind me so much of my daughter. And
then he went and like went on about his life,
and you know, they give you like he's just running
time and I'm like shaking.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
My ass and I'm like, okay, you got to pay
another twenty dollars. It's been another stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Do a lot of guys hit you with the like
let me save you angle. Really, I feel like I'm
the type it would be doing that. God, thank you
for saving me. I would. I would so be that guy.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I don't used to tell me all the time I
saved you.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's true, but also like man, like a huge stripper,
like I just start falling for him. I would hope
that like my you know, ability to resist that is
higher now but before you.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
But you would never.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Try to sell a stripper to not strip. You would
just like fall for them.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
No, she's got to stop. Yeah, oh wow, she could
do porn, she can't strip.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I feel like you're I know, you're very, very conventionally attractive,
and you probably get the comments all the time of
like you don't have to do porn.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
You could do more than porn, And I.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Feel like you probably got it worse at the strip
club because of that.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Well, it's so like intimate at this strip club there
you're like face to face with this guy, like he
has you in a room, you know what I mean,
Whereas like in the comments are just talking.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's the thing I would have a hard time whether
if I was a girl. It's like it's one thing
to shake your ass for the camera and have one
hundred thousand guys see it on the internet, but like
having to be face to face with one of them
as he tells you that he wants to save you.
I don't know. Yeah, did you feel like you were well,
that you were like very pretty? Did you get that
kind of attention when you were in high school and
stuff or now.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
I was really shy in high school, but I don't know.
I mean, I was like a scene kids. I listened
to like a lot of rock music, so I had
like the crazy eyeliner and the way top hair.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Do you have photos from this era?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I don't. They're scrapped with it, I know. I hate that.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I tried to look at my photo book at the
other night and I couldn't get in.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I was kind of like a scene kid. I had.
I dyed my hair black at one point, you know,
I was like really, yeah, but like those pictures like,
I don't, I haven't seen them.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You know, where are they now?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean, I guess they're not my space.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Your sister but she has one somewhere.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Wow, that's funny. So you were hanging out like band
dudes or not.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Yeah. I really loved hanging out with bandits. And then
for some reason, they were all like way older than
me when I was in high school, Like they'd be
like twenty four, and I'm like, I'm like, why is
this weird?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Like I was having so much fun. I was.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's quite the age different.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Solely, shit, I need my space but we just had yeah,
kind of like we'd meet up my space at the beach.
Sometimes there was like a big like bonfire community in
the east side of Toronto, and uh, we would just
like kind of go and drink there. And my mom
would be like, where are you going? Like she'd get
so mad, and I would tell her like, I'm just
hanging out with these guys. They're really nice, They're not
doing anything. And then I look back now and I'm like,
(07:47):
that's kind of really fucked up.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, So how long did you So you lasted two
days as a stripper? That wasn't for you. What do
you try after that? So?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I worked a lot of restaurants.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Okay, so equipment Donald started hosting at a restaurant serving bartending.
Then that led me into opening. It led me to
opening STK in Toronto in twenty sixteen. So I started
there as a cocktail server. I had like no fine
dining experience, and then I gradually moved up.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Then I was like, this is boring, So I started
doing bottle service.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Had so much fun doing bottle service, and then this
other job kind of fell into my lap where I
was helping of creators like make content and like help
them with the back end of like doing the content
and stuff. So I did that for two years, and
that's when I learned.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The back end of the industry in a way, and I.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Was like, why am I running after these girls who
do their customs. I was like, I can just do
my own thing.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You just started to realize, like, I mean, if you
work in the only fans world from day one, I know,
with our employees, it's like everybody asks them like, have
you ever had only fans? You ever think about starting
only fans even though they're not interested? But so I'm
sure people were mentioning it all the time.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Yeah, I mean I always had an only fans. I
used to post on Reddit and shit like kind of
like no face content just for the attention because I
liked it, like, oh a way to get comments and like,
you know.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
The same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
A lot of girls have told us that that's kind
of how they got started. It was posting on Reddit.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah, John wild on your only fans that you had
when you were a no Phase creator, were you masturbating
and doing solos or just taking pictures?
Speaker 6 (09:15):
I didn't know what the hell I was doing in
twenty twenty, so I would like my subscription fee was
like twenty six dollars or something ridiculous, like.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
The max you could do. And then I would just
like send out nudes.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I would send out like sex tapes, and I would
barely PPV anything, So I like literally just like tank
the page.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I had no clue what I was doing. And then
I'm like, there has to be a different way to
do this, And you were just using Reddit to promote yourself.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, and then they would shadow ban you on Reddit now,
like if you start posting too much. So I think
my page got shadowy and I kind of like gave up.
But after the Bottle Service job, when I started doing that,
I would go live with my clients and like on
my own page just to kind of like help them
because they were so nervous to like be interacting with
their fans alone, if that makes sense, because I always
(10:00):
was hopping them out, and so I would go live
with them. People would come to my page and I
started just doing custom content because I didn't want a
PPV anything. I didn't want my agency being like you're
taking all the like spenders from the page. I was like,
I'm just going to go and do custom content.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And here we are.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay, So during COVID you did you start to like
kind of ramp it up or you were doing only
fans during COVID or that was my.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
I'd like for like two months. Okay, yeah, this is
like way after.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
This is like, so what made you want to go
from what you were doing to taking the mask off
and being a creator who shows their face and shooting
for a company.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Honestly, I just always wanted to do it.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
I've always been fascinated by it, and so I was like,
okay now or never I got out of a relationship,
I was like, I have to just kind of fend
for myself.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
This is what I've always wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So when was the breakup?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
May last year?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Okay, so you've been single for like a year.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I'm like really bad at being single, so I'll like
get into situationships and then so technically technically officially officially single,
like since I would say like mid January.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Okay. And so the relationship thing though, like why would
you say you keep ending up in relationships? You're just
like a romantic or.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
He's got a hard time saying hang out with a
guy all the time and like just shooting the shit.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
It's so fun.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But well, you can't be the kind of girl who's
just got like a roster and you hang out with
a different guy every night. I wish you just fall
into it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I tried the roster thing, you know, I tried in
my twenties, and it was fun. Like my conscieurge in
my building was like, who's this week, you know, like
it's like a rotation of two.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh my god, that's such a bad feeling. I used
to like have the bar near my house, like I'm
talking like twenty twelve right now, but I used to
bring a different girl off tender there like so often
that like the bartenders start kind of like rolling their
eyes at you, like, okay, I don't like this is
getting at lot of control, Like it's Thursday and this
is your fourth girl that you brought here this but yeah,
that's kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It gets like exhausting to like have to.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It's just got lost in a sad moment.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I was having a great time. I'm glad I left
him behind, But if I was still doing it right now,
then it would be sad.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah for everyone.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Yeah, well, you know, I mean, I know people who
still do it at that age.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's just if you just fuck too many people, it
just starts to turn into just a big blur. Like,
especially during that period of my life, I can't remember
what the fuck I was doing, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I don't remember one's names, anyone's face.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah. But okay, so in the back of your head
you were always contemplating like, oh, maybe I'll just do
porn one day, or how did that?
Speaker 6 (12:40):
I always wanted to do it, So just to give
you like a timeframe of how long ago I wanted
to do this was like James Dean era, Like I
was like, oh, I'm going to plan on the website,
and so I did, because you can do like collapse with.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Him just as a fan, and so I applied.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
He gets canceled or like, I don't remember what happened
to him, but something happened, and I remember I was like, okay, well,
I can't go now again in a relationship. I start
doing my rotation of guys. So I was like, I'm
too busy, I'm having too much.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So you almost did this like ten plus years ago.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Wow, yea, And then I swear like the universe aligned
for all of this to happen, because my first scene
was like Browsers and I was introduced to Kieren and
like everything just kind of like snowballed from there.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
How did you start that conversation in terms of doing
actual porn and talking to Browsers or whatever.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
I had a friend introduced me to Karen Lee, okay,
and Kieren Lee introduced me to Browsers.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Legend in the game by the way.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Incredible, the best guy ever.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I loved him. So he was an awesome scene partner
from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, I mean we just shot our scene. But my
first scene was with Mick Blue.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Okay, yeah. Nice. Yeah, So Browsers like just kind of
latched on. They were like, hey, we would love to
be your debut.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Yeah, they were super nice. I was honestly shocked. I
was like, what is happening. I'm like, there's no freaking way.
They're like, okay, like let's have you in on these days.
So I flew back from Columbia. I was at Columbia
at the time, and I land and then I just
started like dming people and like do you want to
a collab with one person? They tell another person and
then it just kind of kept going and going, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Like, how was it being on set for Browsers and
just like being in front of all those cameras and lights.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I love it. I love it. I'm like, oh my god,
the attentions all on me. I love it. I don't know, Yeah,
we're getting your no.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
But I used to go to sex parties and shit,
like I used to like, I genuinely like being watched,
and my axe used to like watch me, like to
watch me get fucked.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
So I love the guys. Okay, record myself.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Give me a good sex party story of what this
is actually like, because I think we've thought about it,
never actually really fall through. Yeah, And I have friends
who are like totally normal people who will ask me like,
so you go to sex parties? And then I kind
of find out later like, oh, they go to sex parties.
That's why they're asking you. They think that you go
because you're a porn star. They're normal people and they
go to sex prizes. Okay, So give me just like
(14:56):
a crazy night or like he'd liked to see you
get fucked. How many guys fuck do in a night
that this guy would be watching?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
God, I don't remember like how many exactly, but a bunch,
but he would also be having sex, you know. But
then I realized like whenever our relationship would kind of
die off and we'd stop having sex, is when I
was the most committed to him. So I started to
just like fuck other guys on the side, record it,
send it to him, go home, and fuck him like
it was this. And then I realized that I was like, oh, maybe,
(15:22):
like he's a bit of a cook in a sense
that he wanted to watch me have sex with other people.
But he didn't like the humiliation aspect. So when I
started to like do the humiliation stuff, he hated.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
It describes humiliation stuff because a lot of people they.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Don't like degrade him, like be like, oh, like I
like fucking this guy so much better than you.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
He would always.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Ask, that's his line, all right. He didn't like that
because's a lot of like people don't really know how
to differentiate between hot wifing and cooking.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Maybe it is hot wifing then yeah, if.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He doesn't want to be treated poorly in the whole dynamic,
then I think hot wifing is more of a term
that would be appropriate. Yeah, Okay, this jumps out at
me and I just want to make sure that we
talk about this so we don't miss it. But you
lost your virginity to the Weekend. Okay, that is hilarious
to me.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You know that he took your virginity. I didn't let
him know at the time, losing.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Your virginity to someone that famous.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
But he wasn't famous at the time. Oh the Balloons era.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Now this is interesting. So was he still like a
faceless creator at the time. No way.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
We met in high school when I was thirteen.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And he was in high school.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
We went to the same high school, but he had
dropped out at the time. But I was friends with
Lamar and all those guys, okay, and so we'd like
we hung out one spring break. I guess you guys
call it spring break. We call it March break in Canada.
And then he just kept like using MSN, which is
our version of AIM, like just chatting here and there,
and I stayed in touch, and then he sent me
(16:46):
half of Balloons and I was like, god, damn, I'm
like this is good, you know, because he's had other
music projects before where I was like eh, but I
was like, this is really good.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So I'm like going to fuck him. So I did. Yeah,
I mean it wasn't romantic at all.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Like we met up at a bar. I was seventeen
at the time. He's only two years older than me.
And we met up at the bar. It was called
good night. We walked down the road. He's like, oh,
let me take you to my apartment. Forgot his keys.
I assume he didn't. It wasn't even his apartment. I
don't know, but we fucked.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
We fucked on the like outside, like balcony was on
the main floor.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Wait, but so he couldn't get into his apartment, so
you fucked on where, like outside.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Outside the apartment, Like, yeah, that's I know. He's like,
you can be loud.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
I was like in my head, I'm like, I can't
believe I'm moving my originally of this fucking guy that
I've been ignoring since That was good And.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So at that time, you're thinking, like, he's a cool guy.
He's a hot guy, I guess, but he's not a
big deal in your mind, Like you didn't really have
a reason to think that this guy was going to
become one of the biggest musicians of all times.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I had no idea I had no idea.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
But then like while we were talking, he was like,
I wrote Drake's album, like I wrote take Care and
like all that.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You know that whole Okay, he wrote some songs was
on take Care. Just to be clear. Yeah, a lot
of a lot of misinformation about this. Well, allegedly I'm
a Drake stance, so I gotta I gotta take it side.
Holy shit. So okay, but there was other You had
other crazy names too, the Bieber thing. How old were
you when the Bieber things?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
You talk about this of course, okay, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Bieber, send the season desist. We'll take it down. It'll
already be on all the blogs. It'll be fine. No,
you're not clocking me. I'm standing on business. You're not
clocking then, I'm standing on business right now.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Okay, I'm uncomfortable with this conversation.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I was like, should I put this in the notes?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
So I was like, fuck, maybe this might be what
puts him over the edge, because he's teetering right now.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Stop. Yeah, that was twenty sixteen. I was working in
a restaurant. He came in. I didn't serve him. I
asked my manager if I could just go say hi.
He was like that girl. Yeah, like I've been looking
at her and night I go over.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
We're just shooting the ship, like just talking and then
he's like, add your number to my phone. So I
take his phone. I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
So I'm like I took his pone in my hands
like this, I'm like shaking. And then I went to
finish my shift, went to his hotel, which was commediately
across the street from my work, and we watched Suicide.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Squad okay for how long till like six am?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Wait? So you started watching it at what time?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I would say, like midnight? Like was when I finished
my shift? I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Six hours watching TV? And how does it turn into sex?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It just he was eating a chicken breast.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So at one point you initiated it. Yeah, a plane
chicken breast.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
No, I didn't. I didn't order the chicken breast. He
was just eating the chicken.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
He just had a single plane chicken breast. No sauce.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I don't think so what Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Bieber, I don't know how was it?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
It was great?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He was. He's like a passionate lever.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
He's he's so beautiful whereas like I want someone to
beat the shit out of me.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So I was like, oh, you know, so it was
kind of a letdown or was it sort of fun?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I mean I wish.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
I think he just had to be respectful because like
he could, I could sue him if he beat the
show on me.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
So he was very nice. It was very nice because
I didn't sign anything. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, if you're gonna have like crazy violence sex maybe time,
not with a stranger, you gotta have some kind of
consent form signed. If you're in his position, maybe.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You know each other. You can't just assume a girl
wants that.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
No, I know, And I looked so sweet in it,
incent like you would never know that. I'm like, run
me over with your car kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know, run me over with your car is crazy.
So did you guys sleep together again after that? Or
is this the one time?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
No? Actually, So the next day I texted him. I
was like, did I leave my ear rings?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I had my earrings?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Let me tell you wow, and let me send someone.
He's like, no, you don't have your earrings. Didn't hear
from him then? Two weeks I would say, two weeks later,
I don't remember I get like six missed calls, like
on facetimed text messages whatever, and I'm like, what the
fuck is going on. I was living with my ex
boyfriend at the time. We had broken up, but we
were still living together. So my phone's blowing up and
(21:01):
he's like, what the fuck's going on? I look and
it's Justin and I'm like, okay, let me get ready
and call him. So I get ready, run downstairs because
downstairs was my work. I lived in the same building.
I answered the call and I was like, hey, like
what's up. He's like, oh, just checking in on you,
Like how are you doing. I'm in Barcelona. I was like, well,
I'm about to network, like get to chat whatever. He's like,
(21:24):
call me when you're done work. So I call him
back and he was getting a massage. I think he's
I want to say Barcelona and.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He's like, I'll call you later. I'll call you later.
I was like, okay. Never heard from him again, but
I checked himc I was like, what is he doing there?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
He had punched like like some paparazzi outside of a
taxi that night or like that day, so I'm like, oh,
he's like spiraling.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, I vaguely remember this, but this was twenty sixteen.
It was kind of a reminder that just a men
while in for like ten years.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, it was so bad for him.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Wow, I know. Would you say overall that famous people
are better or worse at sex?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Ooh?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I mean now after being ran through in the porn industry,
I would say they're worse at sex.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But well, I mean, but you're comparing them to dudes
who literally fuck for a living. Yeah, this is like
the only thing that they have to be good at
to do good in life, and they wouldn't have gone
into this career if they weren't good at it. So
it does seem kind of unfair to compare them. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Yeah, compared to civilians, I would say with the With
the civilians, it's like, okay, you build a report, then
you start to have They got to work for it,
yeah exactly, well not even work for it, but you
just get to know the person, whereas if it's a
random celebrity, he fucked once, you pucked twice and then
it's kind of done, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So if you weren't even thinking about like hmm, maybe
I could be just in Bieber's girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
No, I know better see it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You gotta be more aspirational because Haley Bieber, she could
have fucking had the same perspective. She could have been like,
I'm gonna throw away.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I'm not going to want to be missus Bieber.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I mean, you tell me a lot of girls would
kill for the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I was never a believer. I did. I was a believer.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Or fucking up child you guys really I'm like, oh god,
please don't let him watch this.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Yeah, No, I was never I was never like a
big believer girl.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So I just did it because I was like for
the plot. Why not?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So have you left the celebrity thing alone in the
last ten years or no? I mean those are pretty
big shoes to fill once you've done the weekend in Bieber.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I mean, who do you go to after?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, you gotta fuck. I don't know. Drake obviously is
up there.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
With them, but never slept with Drake.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Still kind of in that territory. You never put that
on your bucket list.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Like living in Toronto for that long, I've had many
like run ins with Drake, but I've never like been
hit on by Drake, which kind of like hurts my feelings.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
But I just don't think I'm his type.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I even slid in his DMS once and he like
never answered me, but he answered my friend that we
slid in and said the exact same thing at the
same time, and we thought would be so funny.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You know, he can't be the only person answering those
dms right like this just seems like it's just too
many girls hitting them up, too many rappers hitting them up.
Like it just seems like it would be so overwhelming.
M the fact that you like response to me consistently too,
I'm like, how do you like? How are you keeping
track all? I just feel like I would probably get
(24:18):
an assistant at one point, and a lot of these guys,
I don't know if he does, but a lot of
these guys have pussy assistance.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
You like, put the hot girls in primary, like the
ones you're like general.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
The other ones who knows. Okay, So now you're in
the porn world. You've only shot two months worth of
the scenes. How many times you shot?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I think I've shot three mainstreams so far and I
have two coming up. I believe but I've done a
ton of collapse.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
It's kind of difficult to work as a Canadian.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Really, so you can't stay out here for too long.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Well, I need a working visa, so I'm just like
waiting to shoot stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So you come out here and you shoot, but you
just have to kind of cram it into these like
relatively short trips.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Yeah, but I am saying I'm officially moving. Okay, moving
to Ardno Beach.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Wow, congrats. So you think you're gonna like really push
this thing to the limit. Are you trying to do
all the porn star stuff.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I'm trying to, but I'm trying to space it out.
So I'm not gonna do anal until I do like
a showcase. Like I'm just gonna like be really smart
and strategic about how I pushed my my content out
and this type of content I do for sure. I
Mean it helps so much that I work the back end,
So I kind of understand. Don't start with the dpcne
you know, because then you're gonna bottom out.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Oh my gosh. When we hear girls like their first
scene was an anal or game.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, like you girls literally have told us that they
first seen was a four guy anal gang bang, and.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's just like yeah, whoa yeah, like where do you
go from there?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
So people who book you for that are so fucked up.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I love the idea of working in Only Evans Management
before becoming Only Evans Star, just because it's like you're
kind of like playing the video game without any skin
in the game, and then at a certain point you
were making a decision already knowing basically what this is
going to.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Be like exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Yeah, I mean I had no idea this was going
to happen, but like, here we are, you know, here
you are.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Have you ever done a girl girl guy through some
on camera?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I have you?
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Yeah, I did a live stream and we recorded it
as well.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So that's really.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Beautiful, amazing. All right, well, Lenna, any other questions, I
don't think so ready to get into it? Yeah, all right,
let's go.
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