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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode I'll plug Talk. My
name is Adam twenty two. I am joined by my
beautiful wife, one of the plug Hi everybody, and today
we're having a sit down with somebody who actually we
hung out with all last night and we're big, big
fans of her generally speaking, and she's been on the
couch before. But we're back with the sequel Blake Blossom.
(00:32):
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Okay, I'm doing crazy. I know longtime, no see, I was.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Saying yesterday when I saw her, I'm like, oh my god,
this is crazy because I never see a girl the
day before we're about to film, because that would just
be a very rare occasion. But like we were hanging
out last night and I'm like, oh, okay, this is
this is the intro to what we're doing tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I say that it felt like seeing your wife before
the wedding, like in her dress.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I didn't say that. I thought you said that last
night in no way like seeing my wife. Just because
clarify that I don't really see her that much, so.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Wite dressed for you.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yes, I wanted to come very virginal because I know
that's your vibe.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I like being sweet and innocent because that's me people. Yeah,
you know you were just talking about fisting.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah no, but oh yeah, I'm looking through Twitter and
I see this girl who I would like to get
on the Orange couch full disclosure. And she's got a
bunch of dudes around her. She's riding one of their dicks.
The other one's no, there's a girl. The girl's got
her whole fist in this chick's ass.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It was a girl's fist, Yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I stared at it for like a couple of minutes,
so I know, and Bro, I was just amazed looking
at it, like I showed Lin of like, whoa look
at that. And Blake's like just starts talking about it
like it's no big deal. I'm like, you've done that.
She's like, oh yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
She has fisted someone but never been fisted.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Just to clarify, I only fist professionally.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh, I thought for sure you were talking about your buttthole.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
No, because she said that she's done some domb work,
which means that she's like, yeahsted other people, I.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Can fist my pussy just because I have a really
small hand, but other people have bigger hands.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, it's hard. I tried to do it to myself
once and I couldn't fit. Like this part trick.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
This is the trick you have to do that. Do
you think it would be good for our marriage if
I fisted her?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
No, I think you should.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I have no desire to on you.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
If you try to put your fucking giant hand into
my asshole.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I just interviewed Chuck Ladell. That's a fist you don't
want in your ass. I swear to God, his fist
has got to be at least like an additional inch
on each side of mine.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I know some girls I would be like, bet hey,
let me see if you can fis.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No, I'm like, I barely let you put your dick
in there. I'm not letting put your whole fucking handed right,
So I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't relate to the liking being fished, but I
like fisting other people.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But I feel like, you know some any of the
girls who are girls that just show up to set
every day they're doing crazy stuff doesn't really matter. Like
for us, we script like whatever we want to do. Yeah,
And like there's a lot of girls out there, like
the fisting thing doesn't seem like it like pops into
a lot of girls heads. That's more like there needs
to be a director who this.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Is there will say they do prep you on like
if you are doing like any anal scenes, they are
very clear about like what we're doing today or what
they want like someone to do. So fisting is definitely
something people have to stretch out for.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm just saying I've never been the fly on the
wall when Lenna and Savannah Bond are like, oh yeah,
let's fist each other.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
That sounds great because we've never I've never had that
conversation with anyone in my life.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I'm like, Okay, Savanna, shit, Savannah so hot on my
letter fist.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I think the only I might tried it was because
I was on Only Fans Live and someone was like,
can you fit your fist in there? And I was like,
I've never tried. Let me try, But like it's not
something I would have thought of normally. Is it easier
if you put a glove on.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Really Yeah, Oh I bet that girl had a glove
on because you couldn't even see the whole hand was gone.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You're just.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Maybe not that video. No, Usually it's like down to here.
I know, it depends on how deep you want to
like really go in. There's like the first hole and
then there's this second hole.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yes, look at a little I know, like that smaller
than dreads dick probably Yeah, you know, like you never
went elbow on them. Shut the fuck up. You never
went elbow you put what shut up with her?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Look at her scary eyes right, Everything she brought was pink.
All her stuff is pink. She's got like this white dress.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
In the side is barbar rose, thorns and yo.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Doing like real scenes day to day just builds you
into another level. Like like you could wrestle once in
a while, But if you're like the Undertaker and you're
on the road and you're wrestling every day, day in
day out, somehow figuring out how to make it work.
I feel like that's like a better metaphor for being
like a real porn start. You get to just go
in the trenches every day and do the mission that's
(05:05):
in front of you. I have a lot of respect
for that, even though I've never really lived anything close
to that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Life as an actor is your job to kind of
do what they want you to do. But fisting is
definitely like a special talent people have. It's it's definitely
like they call it, like a power bottom. So someone
who can like generally like enjoy it, and most people
who like don't really enjoy animal wouldn't do fisting. I've
only done it to guys I've never visited.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Wait what because she's.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I changed a little bit since I was here. I
started doing BDSM works, So I've been like very into
like discovering my own dominatrix side because I'm not very submissive.
But there are like certain guys like I noticed, like
it's like the bigger guys who have more of that
like masculine energy. I kind of am like, oh, like,
(05:57):
I'll be sweet, but if it's like a guy more
like my or who's like more my size, I kind
of like I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna fuck you, and
they're like, out, you're gonna fuck me, And I'm like yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You're telling me that you've been doing portant for all
these years and you at a certain point, we're just like,
you know what, I'm kind of sick again, fucked. I
want to do some weird shit. I want to.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, yeah, because I like exploring different things and I
like doing you know, different characters and such. And I
always play these like psycho angry like girlfriend characters. Either
I'm like climbing through a window and like stealing the
guy's panties or underwear and like sniffing them and then
he comes home and catches me. I've done scenes like that,
so I think it's it's definitely like a slow build
(06:38):
to like being comfortable with being weird. But the way
I do it is it's so like funny and absurd
to me that like I just laugh the whole time.
Like I'm not like super sadistic where I'm like, yeah,
like I want to beat you. I'm like, oh, yeah,
you little slat. You want to get fucked like a bitch,
of course you do.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Like, but I wanted to see Adam taking some of this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I was starving bringing that up. But no, I will
not be getting basted like a turkey at any point
in the future or hand up turkey.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I don't know that sounds like puppetry.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Okay, no food references, Yeah, all right, puppetry. But wait, okay,
describe your feeling going into a scene like that versus
a scene where you're, you know, sucking a couple of
dicks or whatever, like like what's going on upstairs? Does
it feel better or is it more exciting or is
it kind of like you're just doing a job.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I think it's more of like a release for me
because I have the power, and the people that I
top are very like they want to be like injured
almost like they want to feel that like extreme like
submission in like such a subspace. And like someone like
me who doesn't really have tattoos or doesn't like bring
off that like dom vibe for me to come in
(07:53):
and like provide this experience because I look so innocent.
And then the way that I do DOM work is
almost like actress. I'm not like a super like physical
type of person, more like mental. But I don't know.
I think you should get into it. I think you'd
be fat.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Tell me like a mean thing that you would say
to this, well.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Like there's there's like mean things like you can be
like you're fucking stupid, oh right, like you're a fucking idiot,
or you could be like you're not very right, are you? Wow? Right,
So there's like ways that you can get into people's
heads where it's like, oh, yeah, no, I am stupid,
Like I'm a stupid little slut, because there's a way
that you can like bring someone into that subspace without
(08:36):
degrading them. But then there are people that do want
to get degraded, and then I'm like, okay, we need we.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Need to Like if a bitch start calling me dumb,
I'm gonna walk out. Well I'm not here for that. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But some people, like men in power situations or like
people who always have to make decisions or like decide
what they need to do, and like they're the ones
that take care of everybody they want to feel like
I just play is so big because it's it's just
such an easy way to degrade something.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Because like I think of fetishes as probably like originating
early in your life. Like if you're gay, like you're
just you're probably just as gay at nine as you
are at thirty, even if you don't know it yet.
But then that's interesting to me that there's other fetishes
like this thing where you like to be a sub
that you you know, your character that you're describing is like, Oh,
it's this busy CEO guy, a lawyer or whatever, and
(09:24):
then like he likes to be degraded in that way.
So that sounds like something that develops later in life,
which is just kind of strange for me to imagine,
because I can't imagine myself like getting to a different
stage or level in life and then getting an additional
fetish as a result.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Right, But you never know, Like there's people that you
know come out as like they realize, oh, I think
I'm a little gay, Like I think I want to
date a woman, you know, later in life. Or sometimes
people they they do get their fetishes when they're young.
Like there's there's this guy that I don't know him directly,
but director friend of mine knows him, and he has
to have like latex present to get hard, Like he
(10:04):
has to like feel the latex on someone's.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Body or like not exclusively.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, but he can't even like feel any sort of
like erection or like erotic vibes without the latex being there.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Bring a girl home, put this on right, right.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And so I was like, I wonder if it like
started with like balloons and ship like feeling balloons and
it is he like was like using balloons on his
dick and stuff to like fuck the balloons, and so
like the sensation of like that like latexy plastic, it
just like like developed into you know, because other girls
who wear like latex and stuff. So as he got older,
(10:40):
he like discovered.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
This that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But I'm my god, damn, Like imagine having a guy
that always needs you in like a fucking piece of latex.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
You get sweaty as fuck.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, So, like there's there's fetishes that are definitely like
more involved like that, but then there's other stuff, like
foot fetish stuff that's you know, a spectrum. Like there's
some people that like knee feet on the dick, and
then there's other people that just like want to smell
the feet or like lick the toes. But yeah, I
don't know, It's definitely something that happens in childhood.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I feel like our audience, if they don't know you
right now, they're probably thinking that you only do like
the crazy out there, extreme kinky, fetishy stuff. But like
most of the time you're doing like the very beautiful
like studio work where you're just the princess, right, like
of the shoes.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Well, sometimes I do get to be like the crazy girl,
but I do play a lead in a lot of
different features and stuff just because I personally like acting. Yeah,
it's easier for me to like be like, Okay, what
would this crazy bitch do instead of being like, oh, fuck,
like what would I do? Like, I don't know what
I would do. It's some crazy girl. I'd be like, oh,
my friend did this, Like let me let me be
my friend today.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So the other day she mentioned to me that there's
a girl that we know who has like a regular
only fans and then like a trans only fans, which
I found really interesting. I didn't know that there was
every division like that. But from your perspective, does the
fetish stuff, the sort of off the wall weird stuff,
does that ever seem like it makes your traditional fan
base less interested or do they just compartmentalize and kind
(12:10):
of ignore anything that you're doing that they might not
be into.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No, they definitely were kind of annoyed that I was
doing pegging. They were like, what the fuck is this?
We want to see you get fucked right, And I'm like, guys,
just I'm still gonna get fucked, don't worry. But I
would like to like feel how it is to fuck
somebody else. And I like that like power play of
like being there with people, because when I do like
lesbian scenes or like threesomes, I am that like dominating
(12:36):
personality that's like oh yes, like the Dan you know,
you're like yeah, fucker heart or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Because you do give off like innocent vibes, but then
I feel like you also give off like crazy bitch
vibes like you got yeah when it's.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Like necesary, yeah, yeah. And the eyes are very like
can translate a lot of emotion when like maybe words can't.
So I feel like I've just become a nasty, privy
old man on the inside. So like the way I
like view things, or like just like being around girls,
like at my pilates class, I'm like, dude, we could
have like a huge origin in here at pilates.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And literally none of the other.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
We should have like a shot like coming down here,
and then we could have like a track and then
do like a So then I started getting into like
business mode because then I'm like, we could make money
off of this situation, like people would want to watch
us fucking pilate.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
They're just trying to use their reformers and you're over here, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, split Like, oh that's a good like, oh, this
would be a good angle if I like had the
camera here and then she splits and then her legs.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
It's weird though, because I wonder if you were to
propose some sort of lesbian sexcapade to these women, how
many of them would be even open about it, because
I feel like a ridiculously tiny percentage, right, most of
those women are thinking about like their kids and their
husband and what they're making for dinner that night.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, And that's why I like, I think porn is
like a great way for people to like experience different fantasies,
but also like discovering dishes like some people don't even know,
like about different fetishes or there's like I don't even know,
but there's there's different categories and stuff on Pornhub where
people can like click around or because most of our
like OnlyFans, it's kind of the same stuff, so you
(14:14):
kind of have to go to the tube sites to
see new stuff. But that's kind of how I like
saw the storm stuff, and I saw people in like
gimp suits and my friend shout out mistress Veronica, she
was there last night. She's crazy, like this girl. Oh god,
you guys think I'm fucking nuts.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You what would she do that?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You're like, I can't.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I think she's crucified someone. I think she There's a
few things that I'm like, like waterboarding. Yeah, so there's
like I don't know, I have to ask her. I
have to ask her. There's there's a lot of stuff
because there's stuff that you can do on camera for
like you know, for the legal aspect of what you
can post online, but then there's private sessions. So then
you can hook people up to nitrous ox on I
(15:00):
didn't start beating them and shit, or they can do
coke pills up their ass, Like there's people who do pills, yeah,
because like people want to have this sensory deprivation, So
how can they like let go and get out of
their mind without either drinking or doing drugs, Like poppers
are a really big thing for like guys who bottom Wait, but.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
So you're saying that there's this is a fetish putting
coke pills, which I've never even heard about. Coke pill
up your ass. Yeah, but you can't do that on
only fans.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Because no, well obviously, like you can't do anything that
would like blur the lines of consent. But that's what's like,
is this like dynamic in BDSM that is such like
a draw for a lot of people because they want
to feel like like have you ever been fucked with
like where you can't necessarily see or like you have
like ear muffs on or like stuff covering your eyes
(15:46):
like a blind fold or but it does so imagine
a full fucking bag over your head. You can't you
can't see anything, and you're like locked down into something
and just the person is just doing whatever they want
to you. Like that's that's another level. I love just surrender.
So some people want to have this surrender of like
I'm just gonna give myself up to you and just
(16:07):
like be fucked. I can't get to that point because
I'm so like ingrained in like the porn way that
I'm always like, okay, where's the camera? Like am I
looking good? Like I never come on set because I'm
so worried about everything else. So when I can make
other people come and they're just literally like limp, they
can't even speak, because I just made them have just
(16:28):
such a crazy endorphin release, Like when I.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
See the girls who are doing you know, thirty dudes
at the same time in a fucking hotel room and
shit like I see this on.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Twitter out Bonnie.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, and even like lesser known girls I see
doing it because it's like it feels like with Lily
and Bonnie, it's kind of more of a performance, even
though they're clearly like going through with it. But yeah,
like when I see chicks or just getting fucked at
thirty dudes in a hotel room, it's like, Wow, they
clearly just love the randomness of it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
The fact that another fetish. I have a friend who
actually would go to like random fuck He would go
on Craigslist and be like, oh, like let's meet up,
and he would literally have like go to this glory
whole spot and he would just suck like the dick
of just some random guy and he would never see them,
and he would just like go and like I was like,
why would you fucking do that? That's so dangerous. That
(17:17):
was the whole fucking jill is that he didn't he
wanted to be like this is a stranger, like I
don't know who this is. I'm being taken advantage of
in a way. So there's some things that like you
can write for like a porn script, but obviously most
of the stuff that you see online is scripted, like
even most reality TV shows. Yeah, so if you do
see videos that are you know, more intense, I would say,
(17:41):
just like, don't freak out. No comic right right. And
that's why like KIK is so amazing because they do
like exit interviews. They kind of do the intro where
they say, okay, like what are you into? What do
you want to do? When I worked for them, I
was kind of worried because I reached out to them
and said, hey, like I want to get into this
femdom stuff. I want to do BDSM, I want to
peg someone. I want to be pretty, you know, aggressive
(18:04):
towards somebody. So they gave me free free will on
what I wanted to do. But that was that was
like so fucking exhilarating and my talent. He was like, no,
I want you to make me cry, wow, And I
was like, I don't think I can do that. I'm
like I'm news. I was like, I'm a baby dom,
Like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, Like if I like if you said, like, hey,
I want to shoot scene with you and I want
you to make me cry, Like what the fuck am
I going to do? Number One? I don't want to
do that. I don't want to even mess with the
idea that, And I can't imagine what I would actually say,
especially once you tell me that. It's like, how the
fuck is anything I say to you gonna in any way?
Land when you already know that this is like I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Faking it, right, And that's why I like doing scripted
stuff better. And in the terms of like okay, like
what are you okay with me saying? What are you
not okay with me saying? So? Then I can give
that person like a really good experience. And he he
loved it, like he was citty cry no, but he
was close. I did this thing called a zipper. Oh no, no, no, stop, no, no,
(19:14):
what is that? No? So basically a zipper you do
it with them some string and some clothes pins. And
so you tie a string to one of the clothes
pins and you pinch it on someone's body and you
lay the string down and you take another clothes pin
and you lay it over the string almost like a
little chain. So all these clothes pins are over the string.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
On their belly.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Fat you could do on their belly, you can do
on their back, anywhere where there's not like any like
major like blood areas, and you go like one, two
and you rip it off. So it's all the clothes
pins come off in a line on the string. It's
it's very fucking painful. It's it's it's like top five
fucking invented that.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I know.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Let me let me if we invented that our body
and what happens.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So the first time I did it was for a
kink and I would I was like, this is so
fucking fun, Like I love this, like I want to
keep doing this, and that's why I was like, I know.
And then I was like, this is so fun just
because it's like me doing something to someone else and
I'm watching them go through this like exhilarating, painful, pleasurable
experience because I was jerking him off and had like
(20:19):
a toy in his ass too, so plus this pain
with the like sensation in his ass, like he I'll
show you the video, but he like I rip it
off and he was like mute. He went, and so
watching it back, I'm like, wow, like I did that
to somebody and they wanted me to do that, and
they enjoyed it so much that it's like.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
It's been such a crazy world.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I'm like, I know, and that's why I'm like, fuck
if I get an assistant or like I make friends,
I'm like, hey, just so you know, like this is me.
I'm I look sweet and cute, but like there's some
stuff online.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Wow, you're a porn star that should probably be ready
for that, you know. Yeah, a mattress actress is what
they prefer to be called that thing. Wait, let me
ask you this does doing all this crazy stuff? Do
you feel like it in any way changes you mentally?
And does it help does it prevent you from in
any way establishing like real connections with men.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I just associate it a lot. I try to really
like be blake in terms of like when I'm on set,
like I'm I'm gonna be my best self. I need
to be like I like to be a certain way,
especially if it's like a big crew of people. If
it's just like me and like one other person, I
can be more normal. But I do like turn into
a robot when we're when we're filming, because it's like, Okay,
what's the shot? What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Are you ready? Go get your lube, go get your phone,
like come on. Like, So I'm definitely more focused about
the products than like my connection with the person. But
I also work with like the same people for the
last five years, and they're dating all my friends, so
it's like, hey man, what's up?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Really cool? You know everybody?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, Like I work with Isaiah probably like once or
twice every month, and it's like, hey man, what's up. Cool.
So it's like I wouldn't necessarily even be open to
have it like a connection with somebody because at the
end of the day, I know it's it would be
harmful for me because it would be like, why am
I trying to be like romantic with all these people?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I have a theory, you tell me it was just
sure or not. I think in porn people can fall
for each other either before they shoot or like the
first time they shoot. Yeah, but you're never gonna fall
for somebody like that, you know, when you've already shot
together a couple dozen times? Right? Is that possible? Am
I correct?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think that there's certain scenes that can change dynamics
really yeah, because there's certain scenes that I do with
people where I have to be like, like there's one
scene that I did with Seth Gamble for Deeper, and
we actually got in trouble. They were saying, guys, guys, chill, chill,
this is getting like way too aggressive because it's like
I'm coming over and like packing up my stuff and
(22:49):
he comes over and we're supposed to have this like
fight and we're supposed to get physical with each other,
like like very angry, and then it's like we melt
into each other. But we got so into the acting
part because we're very like we both love acting so
much that they were like, this is becoming like way
too aggressive, Like this is becoming like looks almost like
this is like an our like an our word scene,
(23:11):
like this looks like way too intense, and we're like,
oh my god, really like we're acting like this is crazy.
But after that scene, me and him became like really
good friends because you have to like scream at someone
and be actually angry. So then after we were like,
oh my god, are you okay, Like you're good, You're good, right,
Like I don't mean any of that stuff we use
the footage put it out or yeah, yeah, it's it's
(23:33):
like an amazing scene, Like you watch it. It's it's
really aggressive and he like turns me around, he like
pushes me down at one point. But it adds to
the like the realness of it, because there are people
that get into these like almost domestic violence type of
situations and then they like kind of come back and
fuck from it, and it's it's very fucked up. But
like that's what deeper is about, is exploring these more
(23:56):
taboo scenarios.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah, is that one of your most memorable scenes?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Just because it changed the relationship between me and Seth,
Like we became really tight after that because we both knew,
like ding we can take it to this level with
each other, and like we felt like we were like
almost breaking up. We felt like we were in this
relationship and then was like, yeah, fuck you, like I
hate you. But we had worked so closely on other
projects that it was like, okay, like we're friends.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh would you said that that made it more or
less likely that you would be capable of falling in
love with each other or is that totally off the table?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I think the falling in love point depends on how
like hurt the person is when they come into the industry,
because a lot of people do porn because they're looking
for that validation and because maybe like they got fucked
over so many times that they're like, well, I'm gonna
come to porn and just everybody's gonna want to fuck me,
and because you know, like it's it's porn, like everybody
just is so superficial in the physical aspect.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
But a lot of girls seem like they're open to
getting into a relationship with another male talent or whatever, like.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
They want validation, but.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
This is way less likely to happen, it feels like
because they've already kind of I think the.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Longer you're in the industry, you you learn how to
protect yourself too. Like I was such a serial crusher
in the beginning, and I would talk to all these
guys and be like, oh, yeah, I had such a
good connection with him, with him with him, and then
my friend would be like, bitch, I was at his
house last night, and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
You were sleeping in his bed. And then I realized, like, wow,
I can be such a love Bomber and like somebody
(25:29):
who because I want that validation from these guys so much,
and you know, we're fucking on camera for money. So
the way they fuck you and the way the scenes are,
it's like I shoot with a lot of older guys
where they're supposed to be I'm cheating with them, or
it's you know, they're my husband or some other situations.
So there are a few people that I have more
deeper relations with. Like I do a lot of scenes
(25:52):
with Ryan Driller where he's my fucking husband. So every
time I see him, I'm just like, oh, like, this
is my husband for the day, like, and so in
my mind I know that he's not my husband, but
in the scene when I'm in it, like I pretend
he's my husband. But then when the scene's over, I
know he's going home to his wife, and so it's like, Okay,
shut it off and then I leave. But with me
(26:14):
and my partner when we are ex partner, when we
like first did our scene, we like immediately were like
like locked in. So my friend Gizelle, have you guys
had Gazelle on here? Yeah, Giselle and Ramon, they think
literally the first time they worked together. It was just
like fireworks, And they.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Made me think about that thing I was saying about
how I feel like it's easy for people to fall
in love the first time, but then it's less likely
down the road. But they made me think about that
as like, oh, the first time they shot together, they
were like inseparable.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, And so that's that's what I like, hope that
other people like can experience that. You know, maybe there
is someone that in the industry that you know, you
can have an amazing scene within something blossoms from it.
But at the same time, I know, but at the
same time, it's it's just like it's such a slippery
slope because once you start like getting in relationships with everybody,
(27:04):
then you start having thruples and then it's like the
open relationship thing, and then other people are like, oh, yeah,
like I date this guy and this guy and this guy,
and I'm like, I thought you were married, Like what.
So in my mind, I'm monogamous, so I would like
just have one boyfriend and then everybody else's work. So
it would confuse me to have like another boyfriend on
(27:25):
the side or like a girlfriend on the side. I
would be way too fucking confused.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
So they're not open to open relationships.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I don't think so. I think everybody would have to
be like, Polly, are you there. I have to be
like a group, like a clan and be like, oh, yeah,
that's all.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Like if I had a girl on the side, she'd
have to be accepting of the fact that she's not
going to really get anything from me emotionally.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But there are a lot of girls that are okay
with that because they're like, that's fine, I just want
to use you for what I want, like validation, sex.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Clout clout.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I don't know, I don't know what probably meet rappers.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I guess no exactly I'm going to get.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And then I was like, no, I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You want to suck a rapper. I can make that happen.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I don't know. I don't think they would vibe with me.
I'm too I'm too plain, Jane.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I've heard rapper dick is not good.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Well, they rarely have a reason to care, Like as
a porn star, you know that if you give her
like two minutes a dick that it's not really they.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Want like a porn star experience.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, well, but I see, like you know, some girl
gets flown out by blue Face and then she'll ride
a big tumbler, but she'll be like, oh, like you know,
he flew me out and then he fucked me for
five minutes and then he didn't talked to me for
two days, and I was left in his house with
no money and nothing to do and all this ship
And I'm like, yeah, like that's the rapper experience is
like you get to deal with like the most egotistical
(28:49):
person on earth.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I don't know i'd be I would ask you, like
you interviewed a lot of them, so I'd be like,
which one's the most like business, which one's the most chill?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I mean, when I think about it, it's like I
don't really feel like any of these guys like they're
claim the fame is like oh yeah, I can. I
just fuck the shit out of these girls, like a
long periods of time, like video they don't care, Like
why would they care? You know? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I just think like like I compare my lifestyle to
like how like rappers and like athletes live because I'm like,
you like, as soon as somebody knows like what you do,
then they're like, oh, my god, So you know this
person and this person. Then they start asking me about you,
like your whole business, Well how did you get on there?
And how do you know this person? You're like, fuck,
can I just be like a normal person? So when
I go out, I don't wear any makeup, I like
(29:33):
do hair, chill like. I try to not bring attention
to myself. I try to be just very normal and
humble because I don't want to be like one of
these girls. I have a couple of friends that I'm like,
who do you guys think you are? Like, we're all
just sluts on camera. We're not changing the world here.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I won't name names, but I remember, like in the
very early days of me hanging out around porn stars,
that I went to the mall with this girl once
and she's very well known, and uh, she was just
acting like she was gonna get recognized by everybody, and
like she was just such a big star. And then
we were all up in the mall and I get
recognized by mad people and nobody recognized her at all,
(30:13):
And I'm just like, this business is to get her
head out of her ass, Like nobody knows you like that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Right, And that's the difference between like being online and
like having such a strong online presence and having the
same like two hundred people like being your comments every
day versus like real life.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
That's the weird thing with me and her too, is
that like she's got way more followers on social media
and everything, but like I'm usually taking a lot more
photos and public and stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I mean, you should see me when I got side.
I don't look to say this that you want my Instagram.
I look like a fucking hag of like hair and
a bar like mama going in and you stick out
like a sorttum with your fucking face tack.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Ironically, if you were dressed super hot, you would have
tons of people talking to you who have no idea
who you are. And then meanwhile, like if I go
somewhere where nobody knows who I am, then nobody.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Is a We go to Japan twice last week with
my makeup still on after a shoot to go to
the grocery store, and I was like, people treat you
so different two.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Times, and I was like, I have a wedding ring on.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I don't have one on right now, but I was like,
they don't give a fuck, No, I had my kid.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
With yes, mom, Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
As a dude, you have to be able to look
at a girl and be able to tell how hot
she is even if she doesn't have all of her
accessories and she isn't done up, et cetera. The same
way when potential exactly no, same way. When I'm looking
to sign a rapper, you can't look at him and
be like, oh, his jeans fit bad and his fucking
you know, his hair is weird or whatever, like, No,
these are the things that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
You're going What are the requirements? What if I had
a song?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Do you have a song?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Probably not going to happen, Yeah, probably not.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Probably not going to happen. Wow, I real, like wow,
what if I did a fucking voice on my What
if I changed my voice? You didn't even know it's me.
I could do a little.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
About fisting men.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I want to hear that about fisting Adam.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
No, yeah, I'll be real. There's no archetype for this.
It's just not going to happen, Like nobody really wants that. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Someone make an AI song about fisting Adam twenty two
for me Blake's voice.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Okay, female rapper is already so hard female sex worker rapper,
never seen it.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But here's the thing. Here's the thing. What if it
was like a parody, Like I'm obviously not a real
fucking rapper, but what if it's like because I'm not, Like,
what if I could do it and then we like
make it like a whole thing about like that I suck,
but like I think I'm so good, Like we could
play on this like the girls that think they're so cool.
But I like, obviously I'm not cool because I'm a
(32:45):
fucking weirdo rapper girl Like I'm no, yeah, no, I
have no lyricism.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Maybe I could anything. I mean, I don't know, we could,
we could get you in full vot start.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
You seem kind of offended by the idea that you might
not be No.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well then he's just gonna give me energy to prove
you wrong.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
No, Hey, what track track? A figure o?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Fuck you?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
What? I think you'd do great? Over there?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh, it's where all the prostitutes walk up and down
the street.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
That's why I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I asked. I was like it was like five hundred dollars.
He's like, no, it's like fifty Yeah, oh really.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's super cheap. You fun him in the back of
your car for ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Really, he's never done this.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I've never been a street walker, so I don't know. No,
me neither, but I believe it's pretty Hey, maybe I
need to go and be a street walker. Maybe do
some research because.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I'm I have a friend who came on the podcast,
and yesterday he was asking me. He's like, hey, I'm
trying to get some good pussy well up in town.
I'm like, how much you're looking to spend three to
five hundred and I'm like, I'm like, there's some girls
have been on blog talk though, for sure that's about
their hourly rate. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So No, I don't do any escorting. No, I like
cameras and being recorded. So you have to sign paperwork
and give me your id's and be tested. So yeah,
oh god semantics.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah no, yeah, very similar jobs.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Sorry, I have to like know who you are to.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Like fuck you, Like somebody who owns a company has
to say like, yeah, this guy is just seen partner today.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well, I will say that I don't now. Maybe in
the beginning I would show up to more like random dudes.
But now I pretty much know everyone so and they
know me and they know how I am, so then
they come in good behavior.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
If you shoot with a guy and he can't perform,
do you just go tell every other girl that you know?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah no, I literally just did that because I just
went to Florida Cruel game.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah no.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I went to Florida and I was like, there's this
new kid. His name is Trey. He's from that roote.
He doesn't know what fucking anything is about the world,
but he's going to come to LA He's going to
take over and he's going to take all y'all's jobs.
Because he was he was really amazing, and I would.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Say he was a bad perform now he was.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
He was so good, and I was like, dude, like
just some random guy from fucking Louisiana, like out of nowhere.
So now I'm like, do I need to get an
RV and go around America and be like, hey, you're
trying to get signed it and be like a port Toocci.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Doing something like that. Right now, it's called like the
smash bus or something. They're just driving around the contect.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I think I would have like a written test first,
I'd have like a verbal test, I would.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
A written test. So there's like an IQ requirement.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
You realize we like sign like ten to fifteen page
legal documents. Yeah, somebody has to be able to read.
Why would I ever want a videotape somebody that wouldn't
read the paperwork. I'd be like, I'd be terrified.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I just wonder if we might a lot of things
that we don't want to know if we were to
give IQ test to everybody in the industry.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Okay, well, if I'm like having like an agency and
like I'm going to be like vouching for somebody, I
have to make sure that they're not going to go
and do stupid ass ship.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well, really, what do I carry If I sign a
male talent and he's got a Forrest Gump bi Q.
I mean I feel like that's going to make him
easier to caperone.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Just send him with like an AID or something.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Oh for sure, I need to aid. Yeah, I can't
let this dumb making money.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
That's the thing is like when you're an agent, you're
like you're trying to get your ten fifteen percent, So
you're trying to send your talent out. So if you
have one hundred talent, every day they're giving you ten percent.
It's a ten percent times one hundred.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
But what if you sign a guy that doesn't even
understand the concept of ten percent? What if you can't
do math?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Well, that's why you have to train him. And that's
why I'm like, this guy, he's going to be the
next big thing. I can feel it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
You can feel it. So you should sign.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
All the guys should go. I don't have it should
be the test.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Honestly, No, I've been thinking about this, like should I
do a boot camp for like the pornscers that are
existing where we're like, hey, how do we like clean
up this performance?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Like we need to We're talking we need to.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Kind of like arch your back.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
What is your biggest issue with a male performers? Maybe
not experience, Like what's the worst thing they could do
on set? That'd be like, come on, get this right,
like so we can get through the scene.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Can't come, can't get hard?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
No, they see I have I have backups. Everything. There's
always planned b even if a guy can't come, we'll
inject it in his dick hole and push it out.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
God, I hope I never get to a point where
I have to do that scene it a few times.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, But in the terms of like when like film
is forever, and when you're there spending like all this
money for everyone to be there, you need the product
to be good, uh huh, and to just like fuck
around and be like, oh, are you guys having like
an amazing pleasurable time? Like no, I'm not sitting here
being like yes, I'm coming over and over. It's like no,
my fucking back hurts and my elbow hurts from doing
this position, and like, can we speed this up?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Like I have to you? Even saying that is kind
of like a wrestler admitting that they don't hate each
other and that they're not really beating each other's ass
in the ring. Well, you're supposed to keep that fib going.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Right, But that's but as like a grown adult, you
understand that some things are entertainment, and so I think
that like with WWE and like with porn, it's usually
like the younger people that don't know what is real
and what's not, and that's the majority of the audience
that is like watching this.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, to be fair, in wrestling, it used to be
the norm that they stuck to these roles like religiously,
and now all these wrestlers get on podcasts and interviews
and talk about the game and are totally honest about it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, people like to see more of like the behind
the scenes versus like the storyline, like all these two
people hate each other, Like sometimes they try to do
that with porn stars, Like oh, they're they're gonna be
against each other, and I'm like, we just fucked last week.
Like me and Angel are like even though me and
Angel Young's she's like my bestie, but we're always yeah,
shout out.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Angel, literally the last person shot with Yeah, I know, but.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
We're always against each other in the same categories and
we're like, hey, bitch, if you win, fuck yeah. And
so like that's the type of like performer that I
like to have in the industry is somebody that is competitive,
that is somebody that wants to do the best product,
and somebody that is okay if they aren't crowned.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
The queen, but I'm gonna be real with you, okay.
In the wrap world, beefs, which for the most part
are authentic and they're actually taking place and people actually
hate each other or like the number one way that
people promote each other, and same thing in the streamer world.
All these people are beefing all the time, but.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Gang affiliated anyways, so there's already like where they come from.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
It's a little bit of that too. Yeah, But I'm
just saying, like horn people don't use beef to promote themselves,
and they should because it's such a fucking compelling thing
to the fans. But if there was, if Angel Young
and Blake Boss and we're going to war on Twitter
and dissing each other and all the shit, I mean,
it would be great for your careers, or at least
in theory, in my mind, it could work. Although like
(39:35):
maybe the fans, I don't care that much, but I
feel like I think it would.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Give them more exposure to maybe people who are not
paying attention to porn exact. But I think that like
the way I think about it is that like we're
such a hated industry in a way, and I just
feel like everyone in the industry tries to be positive
with everyone because everyone already against us against each other, right.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Mean, because we had fake beef, we like tweeted some
like bullshit for like ten minutes and within ten minutes,
we were like, Okay, we need to delete this, like
this is this is like people were already like commenting
and the fans like it because majority of the people
that are like commenting online are already trolls. So it's
like when you give them stuff to like freak out about,
(40:18):
like like the people who comment like the pictures of
like the black baby like in the woman's stomach, like
under your guys' posts. Like I literally still see posts
about like the whole Jason thing, and I'm like Jesus fuck,
And I'm like, how do they deal with that? Because like,
as me, like I don't know if I would necessarily
like want to be in a controversy or like like
(40:39):
type of situation where like everybody's tweeting about me. But
then at the same time, I'm like, dang, they just
had like all these just Hella promotions and you know,
numbers free promotion. Yeah yeah, and then everybody's talking about
you and looking at your other stuff and and so
it's like it's that good bad press situation. And I
(41:00):
don't want to be like somebody who's like looked down
upon among my peers, but I don't give a fuck
about like other people who like don't know like about
the business.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I think there's a lot of girls who fucking hate
each other behind the scenes and sometimes still have to
work together, but it's all behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Well, they can talk to your fucking agent, because I
don't work with anybody I don't like. I literally just
said I'm.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Not walking at yours.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I mean it can change. Like there's some people that
like talk like smack online and are just very like
uneducated with like the stuff they talk about. Like there's
this one girl who just like totally reamed guys who
use the injection and pills, And I'm like, okay, but
we use botox, we have implants, we have makeup, we
have hair extensions, we have lube. So there's like all
(41:42):
these things that us as women do to like get
the scene done and look good. All the guy has
to do is be fucking hard. So why are you
trying to slam the male talents for literally doing their job?
And so I got really pissed because I said, why
are you trying to, you know, make these group of
people that already maybe might feel ashamed that they're not
like one hundred percent hard the whole day, Like why
(42:04):
go and drag them through the mud and so stuff's.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Like on your list even though you hadn't like worked.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
With yes, because I I just know like somebody who
has that type of ideal and then like continue to
like argue with me in the DMS because I just
said like, hey, you know, like I don't really understand
like why you would say this. Can you like give
me like I had like a little bit of a
bitchy tone. But she came back at me and was like, well,
maybe you need to go back to school and learn
some comprehension because you don't know what the fact I said.
(42:32):
And I went back because I was like, okay, like
let me let me maybe I didn't read this right.
I said, no, this is literally like shutting down the
male talent for using things to get the scene, because you.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Know, what it reminds me of is like when we
there's been a couple of girls over the years who
like are natural and then they like hate on girls
have surgery and shit, and it's just like, okay, like
a good for you. That's great that you're natural, or
at least you're at the point in your career where
you don't feel the need to have any classes surgery
or whatever, but like why put down the girls who
like nactual boobs?
Speaker 4 (43:05):
But like I I wasn't born with them, so like
I could, I could.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I could do the whole little elitist thing and be like,
oh I don't have to shoot my dickup or whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
So I'm fucking awesome, Like no tattoos, How do I
get out of there?
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Like why would I want to like put other dudes
down just for doing what they got to do to
get their check, you know.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Right, So there's certain people that like have different opinions
or like this other girl, like like when we have
beef in the industry, like nobody really like shows up
and is like, yeah, let's tussle. Like we're all like
pretty much girly girls. But there are a couple of
girls that are like I have bail money, and I'm like,
I will never be on set with you because who knows,
Like if you're if you have a freak out or
like say something's going on in your phone and you
(43:42):
freak the fuck out. Now like everybody is like traumatized
by your behavior like on set. But I'm very selective
with who I'm alone with, So I prefer to be
on and I set with like twenty thirty people.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
We got one dude film and then one of.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Other people out there. There's like ten fifteen people here.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
They're not really a concerned but not going to fight you.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I'm not alone in a house with just a guy
on a camera, like other people here to vouch on
the scenario, the situation. It's not a he said. She said, yeah,
but I just wish that like people were more thoughtful
of like the long term of like what they want
to do, like with their porn career, because people are like,
oh my god, how are you so successful? Like why
do you like you've taken so long to do stuff.
(44:27):
I'm like, yeah, guys, this is like a twenty year
long fucking career. Why are you guys trying to be
like wam bam done a three years?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Wait? How long has your career been?
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Mine's already five years And I just did a scene
with two guys like last summer that came out. So
you never see never done anal, never done a gang bang,
never done a blowbang.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Do you feel like you're building up to these things though?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I am? Yeah, yeah, I am. I have a couple
of things scheduled for this year. It's just I do
porn for trophies, like this is my sport. Like I
like the money, but at the end of the day,
like it makes me feel really good knowing that, like
my DVD are ranking higher and I'm selling more DVDs
and I'm on the cover of the DVDs, and that
my fan base is growing, and that these people are
so obsessed with me that they have all my stuff
(45:09):
and they vote for me. And because I want these
lifelong fans who stick with me for twenty years. Because
like I have a video game like releasing next week
where I'm a little character and you can play as me.
I want all these guys to come and play my game.
If I, like, you know, I have a fleshlight. I
want all these guys to come and buy my flash light, Like,
oh my god, we did a collab, Like let's buy
our flashlights and have a threesome with us. Like you
(45:29):
can curate your porn career around selling like merchandise and
other things. And maybe I'll have a rap career. I
don't know. I might have a song and great Stato
six or something. I don't know. He's literally like this
close delusional.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Well, I was gonna say, if you need, you know,
any firepower for your anal debut.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Oh god, she's not calling you. What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (45:57):
You're gonna promote it for me? No, he won't, to
fuck you.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, I'm gonna promote it for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I don't know. I don't know if you would want
to do that.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
No, I think I know I would want to do that.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
It was his favorite thing.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Might be the end of the relationship. Yeah, we're kind of.
We're sort of on opposite sides of the they.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Do you say that is a sign that guys can
be a little sussy?
Speaker 3 (46:19):
No, there's no chance of that.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
But it's a butt, but's not a butt?
Speaker 1 (46:24):
No, Okay, I just totally need to hear it from you.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Pussy and pussy way different
Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode I'll plug Talk. My
name is Adam twenty two. I am joined by my
beautiful wife, one of the plug Hi everybody, and today
we're having a sit down with somebody who actually we
hung out with all last night and we're big, big
fans of her generally speaking, and she's been on the
couch before. But we're back with the sequel Blake Blossom.
(00:32):
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Okay, I'm doing crazy. I know longtime, no see, I was.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Saying yesterday when I saw her, I'm like, oh my god,
this is crazy because I never see a girl the
day before we're about to film, because that would just
be a very rare occasion. But like we were hanging
out last night and I'm like, oh, okay, this is
this is the intro to what we're doing tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I say that it felt like seeing your wife before
the wedding, like in her dress.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I didn't say that. I thought you said that last
night in no way like seeing my wife. Just because
clarify that I don't really see her that much, so.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Wite dressed for you.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yes, I wanted to come very virginal because I know
that's your vibe.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I like being sweet and innocent because that's me people. Yeah,
you know you were just talking about fisting.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah no, but oh yeah, I'm looking through Twitter and
I see this girl who I would like to get
on the Orange couch full disclosure. And she's got a
bunch of dudes around her. She's riding one of their dicks.
The other one's no, there's a girl. The girl's got
her whole fist in this chick's ass.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It was a girl's fist, Yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I stared at it for like a couple of minutes,
so I know, and Bro, I was just amazed looking
at it, like I showed Lin of like, whoa look
at that. And Blake's like just starts talking about it
like it's no big deal. I'm like, you've done that.
She's like, oh yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
She has fisted someone but never been fisted.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Just to clarify, I only fist professionally.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh, I thought for sure you were talking about your buttthole.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
No, because she said that she's done some domb work,
which means that she's like, yeahsted other people, I.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Can fist my pussy just because I have a really
small hand, but other people have bigger hands.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, it's hard. I tried to do it to myself
once and I couldn't fit. Like this part trick.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
This is the trick you have to do that. Do
you think it would be good for our marriage if
I fisted her?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
No, I think you should.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I have no desire to on you.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
If you try to put your fucking giant hand into
my asshole.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I just interviewed Chuck Ladell. That's a fist you don't
want in your ass. I swear to God, his fist
has got to be at least like an additional inch
on each side of mine.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I know some girls I would be like, bet hey,
let me see if you can fis.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No, I'm like, I barely let you put your dick
in there. I'm not letting put your whole fucking handed right,
So I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't relate to the liking being fished, but I
like fisting other people.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But I feel like, you know some any of the
girls who are girls that just show up to set
every day they're doing crazy stuff doesn't really matter. Like
for us, we script like whatever we want to do. Yeah,
And like there's a lot of girls out there, like
the fisting thing doesn't seem like it like pops into
a lot of girls heads. That's more like there needs
to be a director who this.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Is there will say they do prep you on like
if you are doing like any anal scenes, they are
very clear about like what we're doing today or what
they want like someone to do. So fisting is definitely
something people have to stretch out for.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I'm just saying I've never been the fly on the
wall when Lenna and Savannah Bond are like, oh yeah,
let's fist each other.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
That sounds great because we've never I've never had that
conversation with anyone in my life.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I'm like, Okay, Savanna, shit, Savannah so hot on my
letter fist.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I think the only I might tried it was because
I was on Only Fans Live and someone was like,
can you fit your fist in there? And I was like,
I've never tried. Let me try, But like it's not
something I would have thought of normally. Is it easier
if you put a glove on.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Really Yeah, Oh I bet that girl had a glove
on because you couldn't even see the whole hand was gone.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You're just.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Maybe not that video. No, Usually it's like down to here.
I know, it depends on how deep you want to
like really go in. There's like the first hole and
then there's this second hole.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yes, look at a little I know, like that smaller
than dreads dick probably Yeah, you know, like you never
went elbow on them. Shut the fuck up. You never
went elbow you put what shut up with her?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Look at her scary eyes right, Everything she brought was pink.
All her stuff is pink. She's got like this white dress.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
In the side is barbar rose, thorns and yo.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Doing like real scenes day to day just builds you
into another level. Like like you could wrestle once in
a while, But if you're like the Undertaker and you're
on the road and you're wrestling every day, day in
day out, somehow figuring out how to make it work.
I feel like that's like a better metaphor for being
like a real porn start. You get to just go
in the trenches every day and do the mission that's
(05:05):
in front of you. I have a lot of respect
for that, even though I've never really lived anything close
to that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Life as an actor is your job to kind of
do what they want you to do. But fisting is
definitely like a special talent people have. It's it's definitely
like they call it, like a power bottom. So someone
who can like generally like enjoy it, and most people
who like don't really enjoy animal wouldn't do fisting. I've
only done it to guys I've never visited.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Wait what because she's.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I changed a little bit since I was here. I
started doing BDSM works, So I've been like very into
like discovering my own dominatrix side because I'm not very submissive.
But there are like certain guys like I noticed, like
it's like the bigger guys who have more of that
like masculine energy. I kind of am like, oh, like,
(05:57):
I'll be sweet, but if it's like a guy more
like my or who's like more my size, I kind
of like I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna fuck you, and
they're like, out, you're gonna fuck me, And I'm like yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You're telling me that you've been doing portant for all
these years and you at a certain point, we're just like,
you know what, I'm kind of sick again, fucked. I
want to do some weird shit. I want to.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, yeah, because I like exploring different things and I
like doing you know, different characters and such. And I
always play these like psycho angry like girlfriend characters. Either
I'm like climbing through a window and like stealing the
guy's panties or underwear and like sniffing them and then
he comes home and catches me. I've done scenes like that,
so I think it's it's definitely like a slow build
(06:38):
to like being comfortable with being weird. But the way
I do it is it's so like funny and absurd
to me that like I just laugh the whole time.
Like I'm not like super sadistic where I'm like, yeah,
like I want to beat you. I'm like, oh, yeah,
you little slat. You want to get fucked like a bitch,
of course you do.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Like, but I wanted to see Adam taking some of this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I was starving bringing that up. But no, I will
not be getting basted like a turkey at any point
in the future or hand up turkey.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I don't know that sounds like puppetry.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Okay, no food references, Yeah, all right, puppetry. But wait, okay,
describe your feeling going into a scene like that versus
a scene where you're, you know, sucking a couple of
dicks or whatever, like like what's going on upstairs? Does
it feel better or is it more exciting or is
it kind of like you're just doing a job.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I think it's more of like a release for me
because I have the power, and the people that I
top are very like they want to be like injured
almost like they want to feel that like extreme like
submission in like such a subspace. And like someone like
me who doesn't really have tattoos or doesn't like bring
off that like dom vibe for me to come in
(07:53):
and like provide this experience because I look so innocent.
And then the way that I do DOM work is
almost like actress. I'm not like a super like physical
type of person, more like mental. But I don't know.
I think you should get into it. I think you'd
be fat.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Tell me like a mean thing that you would say
to this, well.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Like there's there's like mean things like you can be
like you're fucking stupid, oh right, like you're a fucking idiot,
or you could be like you're not very right, are you? Wow? Right,
So there's like ways that you can get into people's
heads where it's like, oh, yeah, no, I am stupid,
Like I'm a stupid little slut, because there's a way
that you can like bring someone into that subspace without
(08:36):
degrading them. But then there are people that do want
to get degraded, and then I'm like, okay, we need we.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Need to Like if a bitch start calling me dumb,
I'm gonna walk out. Well I'm not here for that. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But some people, like men in power situations or like
people who always have to make decisions or like decide
what they need to do, and like they're the ones
that take care of everybody they want to feel like
I just play is so big because it's it's just
such an easy way to degrade something.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Because like I think of fetishes as probably like originating
early in your life. Like if you're gay, like you're
just you're probably just as gay at nine as you
are at thirty, even if you don't know it yet.
But then that's interesting to me that there's other fetishes
like this thing where you like to be a sub
that you you know, your character that you're describing is like, Oh,
it's this busy CEO guy, a lawyer or whatever, and
(09:24):
then like he likes to be degraded in that way.
So that sounds like something that develops later in life,
which is just kind of strange for me to imagine,
because I can't imagine myself like getting to a different
stage or level in life and then getting an additional
fetish as a result.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Right, But you never know, Like there's people that you
know come out as like they realize, oh, I think
I'm a little gay, Like I think I want to
date a woman, you know, later in life. Or sometimes
people they they do get their fetishes when they're young.
Like there's there's this guy that I don't know him directly,
but director friend of mine knows him, and he has
to have like latex present to get hard, Like he
(10:04):
has to like feel the latex on someone's.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Body or like not exclusively.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, but he can't even like feel any sort of
like erection or like erotic vibes without the latex being there.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Bring a girl home, put this on right, right.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And so I was like, I wonder if it like
started with like balloons and ship like feeling balloons and
it is he like was like using balloons on his
dick and stuff to like fuck the balloons, and so
like the sensation of like that like latexy plastic, it
just like like developed into you know, because other girls
who wear like latex and stuff. So as he got older,
(10:40):
he like discovered.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
This that's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But I'm my god, damn, Like imagine having a guy
that always needs you in like a fucking piece of latex.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
You get sweaty as fuck.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, So, like there's there's fetishes that are definitely like
more involved like that, but then there's other stuff, like
foot fetish stuff that's you know, a spectrum. Like there's
some people that like knee feet on the dick, and
then there's other people that just like want to smell
the feet or like lick the toes. But yeah, I
don't know, It's definitely something that happens in childhood.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I feel like our audience, if they don't know you
right now, they're probably thinking that you only do like
the crazy out there, extreme kinky, fetishy stuff. But like
most of the time you're doing like the very beautiful
like studio work where you're just the princess, right, like
of the shoes.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Well, sometimes I do get to be like the crazy girl,
but I do play a lead in a lot of
different features and stuff just because I personally like acting. Yeah,
it's easier for me to like be like, Okay, what
would this crazy bitch do instead of being like, oh, fuck,
like what would I do? Like, I don't know what
I would do. It's some crazy girl. I'd be like, oh,
my friend did this, Like let me let me be
my friend today.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So the other day she mentioned to me that there's
a girl that we know who has like a regular
only fans and then like a trans only fans, which
I found really interesting. I didn't know that there was
every division like that. But from your perspective, does the
fetish stuff, the sort of off the wall weird stuff,
does that ever seem like it makes your traditional fan
base less interested or do they just compartmentalize and kind
(12:10):
of ignore anything that you're doing that they might not
be into.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No, they definitely were kind of annoyed that I was
doing pegging. They were like, what the fuck is this?
We want to see you get fucked right, And I'm like, guys,
just I'm still gonna get fucked, don't worry. But I
would like to like feel how it is to fuck
somebody else. And I like that like power play of
like being there with people, because when I do like
lesbian scenes or like threesomes, I am that like dominating
(12:36):
personality that's like oh yes, like the Dan you know,
you're like yeah, fucker heart or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Because you do give off like innocent vibes, but then
I feel like you also give off like crazy bitch
vibes like you got yeah when it's.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Like necesary, yeah, yeah. And the eyes are very like
can translate a lot of emotion when like maybe words can't.
So I feel like I've just become a nasty, privy
old man on the inside. So like the way I
like view things, or like just like being around girls,
like at my pilates class, I'm like, dude, we could
have like a huge origin in here at pilates.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And literally none of the other.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
We should have like a shot like coming down here,
and then we could have like a track and then
do like a So then I started getting into like
business mode because then I'm like, we could make money
off of this situation, like people would want to watch
us fucking pilate.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
They're just trying to use their reformers and you're over here, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, split Like, oh that's a good like, oh, this
would be a good angle if I like had the
camera here and then she splits and then her legs.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
It's weird though, because I wonder if you were to
propose some sort of lesbian sexcapade to these women, how
many of them would be even open about it, because
I feel like a ridiculously tiny percentage, right, most of
those women are thinking about like their kids and their
husband and what they're making for dinner that night.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, And that's why I like, I think porn is
like a great way for people to like experience different fantasies,
but also like discovering dishes like some people don't even know,
like about different fetishes or there's like I don't even know,
but there's there's different categories and stuff on Pornhub where
people can like click around or because most of our
like OnlyFans, it's kind of the same stuff, so you
(14:14):
kind of have to go to the tube sites to
see new stuff. But that's kind of how I like
saw the storm stuff, and I saw people in like
gimp suits and my friend shout out mistress Veronica, she
was there last night. She's crazy, like this girl. Oh god,
you guys think I'm fucking nuts.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You what would she do that?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You're like, I can't.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I think she's crucified someone. I think she There's a
few things that I'm like, like waterboarding. Yeah, so there's
like I don't know, I have to ask her. I
have to ask her. There's there's a lot of stuff
because there's stuff that you can do on camera for
like you know, for the legal aspect of what you
can post online, but then there's private sessions. So then
you can hook people up to nitrous ox on I
(15:00):
didn't start beating them and shit, or they can do
coke pills up their ass, Like there's people who do pills, yeah,
because like people want to have this sensory deprivation, So
how can they like let go and get out of
their mind without either drinking or doing drugs, Like poppers
are a really big thing for like guys who bottom Wait, but.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
So you're saying that there's this is a fetish putting
coke pills, which I've never even heard about. Coke pill
up your ass. Yeah, but you can't do that on
only fans.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Because no, well obviously, like you can't do anything that
would like blur the lines of consent. But that's what's like,
is this like dynamic in BDSM that is such like
a draw for a lot of people because they want
to feel like like have you ever been fucked with
like where you can't necessarily see or like you have
like ear muffs on or like stuff covering your eyes
(15:46):
like a blind fold or but it does so imagine
a full fucking bag over your head. You can't you
can't see anything, and you're like locked down into something
and just the person is just doing whatever they want
to you. Like that's that's another level. I love just surrender.
So some people want to have this surrender of like
I'm just gonna give myself up to you and just
(16:07):
like be fucked. I can't get to that point because
I'm so like ingrained in like the porn way that
I'm always like, okay, where's the camera? Like am I
looking good? Like I never come on set because I'm
so worried about everything else. So when I can make
other people come and they're just literally like limp, they
can't even speak, because I just made them have just
(16:28):
such a crazy endorphin release, Like when I.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
See the girls who are doing you know, thirty dudes
at the same time in a fucking hotel room and
shit like I see this on.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Twitter out Bonnie.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, and even like lesser known girls I see
doing it because it's like it feels like with Lily
and Bonnie, it's kind of more of a performance, even
though they're clearly like going through with it. But yeah,
like when I see chicks or just getting fucked at
thirty dudes in a hotel room, it's like, Wow, they
clearly just love the randomness of it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
The fact that another fetish. I have a friend who
actually would go to like random fuck He would go
on Craigslist and be like, oh, like let's meet up,
and he would literally have like go to this glory
whole spot and he would just suck like the dick
of just some random guy and he would never see them,
and he would just like go and like I was like,
why would you fucking do that? That's so dangerous. That
(17:17):
was the whole fucking jill is that he didn't he
wanted to be like this is a stranger, like I
don't know who this is. I'm being taken advantage of
in a way. So there's some things that like you
can write for like a porn script, but obviously most
of the stuff that you see online is scripted, like
even most reality TV shows. Yeah, so if you do
see videos that are you know, more intense, I would say,
(17:41):
just like, don't freak out. No comic right right. And
that's why like KIK is so amazing because they do
like exit interviews. They kind of do the intro where
they say, okay, like what are you into? What do
you want to do? When I worked for them, I
was kind of worried because I reached out to them
and said, hey, like I want to get into this
femdom stuff. I want to do BDSM, I want to
peg someone. I want to be pretty, you know, aggressive
(18:04):
towards somebody. So they gave me free free will on
what I wanted to do. But that was that was
like so fucking exhilarating and my talent. He was like, no,
I want you to make me cry, wow, And I
was like, I don't think I can do that. I'm
like I'm news. I was like, I'm a baby dom,
Like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, Like if I like if you said, like, hey,
I want to shoot scene with you and I want
you to make me cry, Like what the fuck am
I going to do? Number One? I don't want to
do that. I don't want to even mess with the
idea that, And I can't imagine what I would actually say,
especially once you tell me that. It's like, how the
fuck is anything I say to you gonna in any way?
Land when you already know that this is like I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Faking it, right, And that's why I like doing scripted
stuff better. And in the terms of like okay, like
what are you okay with me saying? What are you
not okay with me saying? So? Then I can give
that person like a really good experience. And he he
loved it, like he was citty cry no, but he
was close. I did this thing called a zipper. Oh no, no, no, stop, no, no,
(19:14):
what is that? No? So basically a zipper you do
it with them some string and some clothes pins. And
so you tie a string to one of the clothes
pins and you pinch it on someone's body and you
lay the string down and you take another clothes pin
and you lay it over the string almost like a
little chain. So all these clothes pins are over the string.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
On their belly.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Fat you could do on their belly, you can do
on their back, anywhere where there's not like any like
major like blood areas, and you go like one, two
and you rip it off. So it's all the clothes
pins come off in a line on the string. It's
it's very fucking painful. It's it's it's like top five
fucking invented that.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I know.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Let me let me if we invented that our body
and what happens.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So the first time I did it was for a
kink and I would I was like, this is so
fucking fun, Like I love this, like I want to
keep doing this, and that's why I was like, I know.
And then I was like, this is so fun just
because it's like me doing something to someone else and
I'm watching them go through this like exhilarating, painful, pleasurable
experience because I was jerking him off and had like
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a toy in his ass too, so plus this pain
with the like sensation in his ass, like he I'll
show you the video, but he like I rip it
off and he was like mute. He went, and so
watching it back, I'm like, wow, like I did that
to somebody and they wanted me to do that, and
they enjoyed it so much that it's like.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
It's been such a crazy world.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I'm like, I know, and that's why I'm like, fuck
if I get an assistant or like I make friends,
I'm like, hey, just so you know, like this is me.
I'm I look sweet and cute, but like there's some
stuff online.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Wow, you're a porn star that should probably be ready
for that, you know. Yeah, a mattress actress is what
they prefer to be called that thing. Wait, let me
ask you this does doing all this crazy stuff? Do
you feel like it in any way changes you mentally?
And does it help does it prevent you from in
any way establishing like real connections with men.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I just associate it a lot. I try to really
like be blake in terms of like when I'm on set,
like I'm I'm gonna be my best self. I need
to be like I like to be a certain way,
especially if it's like a big crew of people. If
it's just like me and like one other person, I
can be more normal. But I do like turn into
a robot when we're when we're filming, because it's like, Okay,
what's the shot? What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Are you ready? Go get your lube, go get your phone,
like come on. Like, So I'm definitely more focused about
the products than like my connection with the person. But
I also work with like the same people for the
last five years, and they're dating all my friends, so
it's like, hey man, what's up?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Really cool? You know everybody?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, Like I work with Isaiah probably like once or
twice every month, and it's like, hey man, what's up. Cool.
So it's like I wouldn't necessarily even be open to
have it like a connection with somebody because at the
end of the day, I know it's it would be
harmful for me because it would be like, why am
I trying to be like romantic with all these people?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I have a theory, you tell me it was just
sure or not. I think in porn people can fall
for each other either before they shoot or like the
first time they shoot. Yeah, but you're never gonna fall
for somebody like that, you know, when you've already shot
together a couple dozen times? Right? Is that possible? Am
I correct?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think that there's certain scenes that can change dynamics
really yeah, because there's certain scenes that I do with
people where I have to be like, like there's one
scene that I did with Seth Gamble for Deeper, and
we actually got in trouble. They were saying, guys, guys, chill, chill,
this is getting like way too aggressive because it's like
I'm coming over and like packing up my stuff and
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he comes over and we're supposed to have this like
fight and we're supposed to get physical with each other,
like like very angry, and then it's like we melt
into each other. But we got so into the acting
part because we're very like we both love acting so
much that they were like, this is becoming like way
too aggressive, Like this is becoming like looks almost like
this is like an our like an our word scene,
(23:11):
like this looks like way too intense, and we're like,
oh my god, really like we're acting like this is crazy.
But after that scene, me and him became like really
good friends because you have to like scream at someone
and be actually angry. So then after we were like,
oh my god, are you okay, Like you're good, You're good, right,
Like I don't mean any of that stuff we use
the footage put it out or yeah, yeah, it's it's
(23:33):
like an amazing scene, Like you watch it. It's it's
really aggressive and he like turns me around, he like
pushes me down at one point. But it adds to
the like the realness of it, because there are people
that get into these like almost domestic violence type of
situations and then they like kind of come back and
fuck from it, and it's it's very fucked up. But
like that's what deeper is about, is exploring these more
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taboo scenarios.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah, is that one of your most memorable scenes?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Just because it changed the relationship between me and Seth,
Like we became really tight after that because we both knew,
like ding we can take it to this level with
each other, and like we felt like we were like
almost breaking up. We felt like we were in this
relationship and then was like, yeah, fuck you, like I
hate you. But we had worked so closely on other
projects that it was like, okay, like we're friends.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh would you said that that made it more or
less likely that you would be capable of falling in
love with each other or is that totally off the table?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I think the falling in love point depends on how
like hurt the person is when they come into the industry,
because a lot of people do porn because they're looking
for that validation and because maybe like they got fucked
over so many times that they're like, well, I'm gonna
come to porn and just everybody's gonna want to fuck me,
and because you know, like it's it's porn, like everybody
just is so superficial in the physical aspect.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
But a lot of girls seem like they're open to
getting into a relationship with another male talent or whatever, like.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
They want validation, but.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
This is way less likely to happen, it feels like
because they've already kind of I think the.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Longer you're in the industry, you you learn how to
protect yourself too. Like I was such a serial crusher
in the beginning, and I would talk to all these
guys and be like, oh, yeah, I had such a
good connection with him, with him with him, and then
my friend would be like, bitch, I was at his
house last night, and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?
You were sleeping in his bed. And then I realized, like, wow,
I can be such a love Bomber and like somebody
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who because I want that validation from these guys so much,
and you know, we're fucking on camera for money. So
the way they fuck you and the way the scenes are,
it's like I shoot with a lot of older guys
where they're supposed to be I'm cheating with them, or
it's you know, they're my husband or some other situations.
So there are a few people that I have more
deeper relations with. Like I do a lot of scenes
(25:52):
with Ryan Driller where he's my fucking husband. So every
time I see him, I'm just like, oh, like, this
is my husband for the day, like, and so in
my mind I know that he's not my husband, but
in the scene when I'm in it, like I pretend
he's my husband. But then when the scene's over, I
know he's going home to his wife, and so it's like, Okay,
shut it off and then I leave. But with me
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and my partner when we are ex partner, when we
like first did our scene, we like immediately were like
like locked in. So my friend Gizelle, have you guys
had Gazelle on here? Yeah, Giselle and Ramon, they think
literally the first time they worked together. It was just
like fireworks, And they.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Made me think about that thing I was saying about
how I feel like it's easy for people to fall
in love the first time, but then it's less likely
down the road. But they made me think about that
as like, oh, the first time they shot together, they
were like inseparable.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, And so that's that's what I like, hope that
other people like can experience that. You know, maybe there
is someone that in the industry that you know, you
can have an amazing scene within something blossoms from it.
But at the same time, I know, but at the
same time, it's it's just like it's such a slippery
slope because once you start like getting in relationships with everybody,
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then you start having thruples and then it's like the
open relationship thing, and then other people are like, oh, yeah,
like I date this guy and this guy and this guy,
and I'm like, I thought you were married, Like what.
So in my mind, I'm monogamous, so I would like
just have one boyfriend and then everybody else's work. So
it would confuse me to have like another boyfriend on
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the side or like a girlfriend on the side. I
would be way too fucking confused.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
So they're not open to open relationships.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I don't think so. I think everybody would have to
be like, Polly, are you there. I have to be
like a group, like a clan and be like, oh, yeah,
that's all.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Like if I had a girl on the side, she'd
have to be accepting of the fact that she's not
going to really get anything from me emotionally.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
But there are a lot of girls that are okay
with that because they're like, that's fine, I just want
to use you for what I want, like validation, sex.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Clout clout.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I don't know, I don't know what probably meet rappers.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I guess no exactly I'm going to get.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And then I was like, no, I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You want to suck a rapper. I can make that happen.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I don't know. I don't think they would vibe with me.
I'm too I'm too plain, Jane.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I've heard rapper dick is not good.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Well, they rarely have a reason to care, Like as
a porn star, you know that if you give her
like two minutes a dick that it's not really they.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Want like a porn star experience.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, well, but I see, like you know, some girl
gets flown out by blue Face and then she'll ride
a big tumbler, but she'll be like, oh, like you know,
he flew me out and then he fucked me for
five minutes and then he didn't talked to me for
two days, and I was left in his house with
no money and nothing to do and all this ship
And I'm like, yeah, like that's the rapper experience is
like you get to deal with like the most egotistical
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person on earth.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I don't know i'd be I would ask you, like
you interviewed a lot of them, so I'd be like,
which one's the most like business, which one's the most chill?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I mean, when I think about it, it's like I
don't really feel like any of these guys like they're
claim the fame is like oh yeah, I can. I
just fuck the shit out of these girls, like a
long periods of time, like video they don't care, Like
why would they care? You know? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I just think like like I compare my lifestyle to
like how like rappers and like athletes live because I'm like,
you like, as soon as somebody knows like what you do,
then they're like, oh, my god, So you know this
person and this person. Then they start asking me about you,
like your whole business, Well how did you get on there?
And how do you know this person? You're like, fuck,
can I just be like a normal person? So when
I go out, I don't wear any makeup, I like
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do hair, chill like. I try to not bring attention
to myself. I try to be just very normal and
humble because I don't want to be like one of
these girls. I have a couple of friends that I'm like,
who do you guys think you are? Like, we're all
just sluts on camera. We're not changing the world here.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I won't name names, but I remember, like in the
very early days of me hanging out around porn stars,
that I went to the mall with this girl once
and she's very well known, and uh, she was just
acting like she was gonna get recognized by everybody, and
like she was just such a big star. And then
we were all up in the mall and I get
recognized by mad people and nobody recognized her at all,
(30:13):
And I'm just like, this business is to get her
head out of her ass, Like nobody knows you like that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Right, And that's the difference between like being online and
like having such a strong online presence and having the
same like two hundred people like being your comments every
day versus like real life.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
That's the weird thing with me and her too, is
that like she's got way more followers on social media
and everything, but like I'm usually taking a lot more
photos and public and stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I mean, you should see me when I got side.
I don't look to say this that you want my Instagram.
I look like a fucking hag of like hair and
a bar like mama going in and you stick out
like a sorttum with your fucking face tack.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Ironically, if you were dressed super hot, you would have
tons of people talking to you who have no idea
who you are. And then meanwhile, like if I go
somewhere where nobody knows who I am, then nobody.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Is a We go to Japan twice last week with
my makeup still on after a shoot to go to
the grocery store, and I was like, people treat you
so different two.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Times, and I was like, I have a wedding ring on.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I don't have one on right now, but I was like,
they don't give a fuck, No, I had my kid.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
With yes, mom, Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
As a dude, you have to be able to look
at a girl and be able to tell how hot
she is even if she doesn't have all of her
accessories and she isn't done up, et cetera. The same
way when potential exactly no, same way. When I'm looking
to sign a rapper, you can't look at him and
be like, oh, his jeans fit bad and his fucking
you know, his hair is weird or whatever, like, No,
these are the things that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
You're going What are the requirements? What if I had
a song?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Do you have a song?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Probably not going to happen, Yeah, probably not.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Probably not going to happen. Wow, I real, like wow,
what if I did a fucking voice on my What
if I changed my voice? You didn't even know it's me.
I could do a little.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
About fisting men.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I want to hear that about fisting Adam.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
No, yeah, I'll be real. There's no archetype for this.
It's just not going to happen, Like nobody really wants that. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Someone make an AI song about fisting Adam twenty two
for me Blake's voice.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Okay, female rapper is already so hard female sex worker rapper,
never seen it.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But here's the thing. Here's the thing. What if it
was like a parody, Like I'm obviously not a real
fucking rapper, but what if it's like because I'm not, Like,
what if I could do it and then we like
make it like a whole thing about like that I suck,
but like I think I'm so good, Like we could
play on this like the girls that think they're so cool.
But I like, obviously I'm not cool because I'm a
(32:45):
fucking weirdo rapper girl Like I'm no, yeah, no, I
have no lyricism.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Maybe I could anything. I mean, I don't know, we could,
we could get you in full vot start.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
You seem kind of offended by the idea that you might
not be No.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well then he's just gonna give me energy to prove
you wrong.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
No, Hey, what track track? A figure o?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Fuck you?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
What? I think you'd do great? Over there?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh, it's where all the prostitutes walk up and down
the street.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
That's why I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I asked. I was like it was like five hundred dollars.
He's like, no, it's like fifty Yeah, oh really.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's super cheap. You fun him in the back of
your car for ten minutes.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Really, he's never done this.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I've never been a street walker, so I don't know. No,
me neither, but I believe it's pretty Hey, maybe I
need to go and be a street walker. Maybe do
some research because.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I'm I have a friend who came on the podcast,
and yesterday he was asking me. He's like, hey, I'm
trying to get some good pussy well up in town.
I'm like, how much you're looking to spend three to
five hundred and I'm like, I'm like, there's some girls
have been on blog talk though, for sure that's about
their hourly rate. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So No, I don't do any escorting. No, I like
cameras and being recorded. So you have to sign paperwork
and give me your id's and be tested. So yeah,
oh god semantics.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah no, yeah, very similar jobs.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Sorry, I have to like know who you are to.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Like fuck you, Like somebody who owns a company has
to say like, yeah, this guy is just seen partner today.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well, I will say that I don't now. Maybe in
the beginning I would show up to more like random dudes.
But now I pretty much know everyone so and they
know me and they know how I am, so then
they come in good behavior.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
If you shoot with a guy and he can't perform,
do you just go tell every other girl that you know?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah no, I literally just did that because I just
went to Florida Cruel game.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah no.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I went to Florida and I was like, there's this
new kid. His name is Trey. He's from that roote.
He doesn't know what fucking anything is about the world,
but he's going to come to LA He's going to
take over and he's going to take all y'all's jobs.
Because he was he was really amazing, and I would.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Say he was a bad perform now he was.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
He was so good, and I was like, dude, like
just some random guy from fucking Louisiana, like out of nowhere.
So now I'm like, do I need to get an
RV and go around America and be like, hey, you're
trying to get signed it and be like a port Toocci.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Doing something like that. Right now, it's called like the
smash bus or something. They're just driving around the contect.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I think I would have like a written test first,
I'd have like a verbal test, I would.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
A written test. So there's like an IQ requirement.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
You realize we like sign like ten to fifteen page
legal documents. Yeah, somebody has to be able to read.
Why would I ever want a videotape somebody that wouldn't
read the paperwork. I'd be like, I'd be terrified.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I just wonder if we might a lot of things
that we don't want to know if we were to
give IQ test to everybody in the industry.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Okay, well, if I'm like having like an agency and
like I'm going to be like vouching for somebody, I
have to make sure that they're not going to go
and do stupid ass ship.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well, really, what do I carry If I sign a
male talent and he's got a Forrest Gump bi Q.
I mean I feel like that's going to make him
easier to caperone.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Just send him with like an AID or something.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Oh for sure, I need to aid. Yeah, I can't
let this dumb making money.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
That's the thing is like when you're an agent, you're
like you're trying to get your ten fifteen percent, So
you're trying to send your talent out. So if you
have one hundred talent, every day they're giving you ten percent.
It's a ten percent times one hundred.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
But what if you sign a guy that doesn't even
understand the concept of ten percent? What if you can't
do math?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Well, that's why you have to train him. And that's
why I'm like, this guy, he's going to be the
next big thing. I can feel it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
You can feel it. So you should sign.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
All the guys should go. I don't have it should
be the test.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Honestly, No, I've been thinking about this, like should I
do a boot camp for like the pornscers that are
existing where we're like, hey, how do we like clean
up this performance?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Like we need to We're talking we need to.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Kind of like arch your back.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
What is your biggest issue with a male performers? Maybe
not experience, Like what's the worst thing they could do
on set? That'd be like, come on, get this right,
like so we can get through the scene.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Can't come, can't get hard?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
No, they see I have I have backups. Everything. There's
always planned b even if a guy can't come, we'll
inject it in his dick hole and push it out.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
God, I hope I never get to a point where
I have to do that scene it a few times.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, But in the terms of like when like film
is forever, and when you're there spending like all this
money for everyone to be there, you need the product
to be good, uh huh, and to just like fuck
around and be like, oh, are you guys having like
an amazing pleasurable time? Like no, I'm not sitting here
being like yes, I'm coming over and over. It's like no,
my fucking back hurts and my elbow hurts from doing
this position, and like, can we speed this up?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Like I have to you? Even saying that is kind
of like a wrestler admitting that they don't hate each
other and that they're not really beating each other's ass
in the ring. Well, you're supposed to keep that fib going.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Right, But that's but as like a grown adult, you
understand that some things are entertainment, and so I think
that like with WWE and like with porn, it's usually
like the younger people that don't know what is real
and what's not, and that's the majority of the audience
that is like watching this.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, to be fair, in wrestling, it used to be
the norm that they stuck to these roles like religiously,
and now all these wrestlers get on podcasts and interviews
and talk about the game and are totally honest about it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, people like to see more of like the behind
the scenes versus like the storyline, like all these two
people hate each other, Like sometimes they try to do
that with porn stars, Like oh, they're they're gonna be
against each other, and I'm like, we just fucked last week.
Like me and Angel are like even though me and
Angel Young's she's like my bestie, but we're always yeah,
shout out.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Angel, literally the last person shot with Yeah, I know, but.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
We're always against each other in the same categories and
we're like, hey, bitch, if you win, fuck yeah. And
so like that's the type of like performer that I
like to have in the industry is somebody that is competitive,
that is somebody that wants to do the best product,
and somebody that is okay if they aren't crowned.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
The queen, but I'm gonna be real with you, okay.
In the wrap world, beefs, which for the most part
are authentic and they're actually taking place and people actually
hate each other or like the number one way that
people promote each other, and same thing in the streamer world.
All these people are beefing all the time, but.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Gang affiliated anyways, so there's already like where they come from.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
It's a little bit of that too. Yeah, But I'm
just saying, like horn people don't use beef to promote themselves,
and they should because it's such a fucking compelling thing
to the fans. But if there was, if Angel Young
and Blake Boss and we're going to war on Twitter
and dissing each other and all the shit, I mean,
it would be great for your careers, or at least
in theory, in my mind, it could work. Although like
(39:35):
maybe the fans, I don't care that much, but I
feel like I think it would.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Give them more exposure to maybe people who are not
paying attention to porn exact. But I think that like
the way I think about it is that like we're
such a hated industry in a way, and I just
feel like everyone in the industry tries to be positive
with everyone because everyone already against us against each other, right.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Mean, because we had fake beef, we like tweeted some
like bullshit for like ten minutes and within ten minutes,
we were like, Okay, we need to delete this, like
this is this is like people were already like commenting
and the fans like it because majority of the people
that are like commenting online are already trolls. So it's
like when you give them stuff to like freak out about,
(40:18):
like like the people who comment like the pictures of
like the black baby like in the woman's stomach, like
under your guys' posts. Like I literally still see posts
about like the whole Jason thing, and I'm like Jesus fuck,
And I'm like, how do they deal with that? Because like,
as me, like I don't know if I would necessarily
like want to be in a controversy or like like
(40:39):
type of situation where like everybody's tweeting about me. But
then at the same time, I'm like, dang, they just
had like all these just Hella promotions and you know,
numbers free promotion. Yeah yeah, and then everybody's talking about
you and looking at your other stuff and and so
it's like it's that good bad press situation. And I
(41:00):
don't want to be like somebody who's like looked down
upon among my peers, but I don't give a fuck
about like other people who like don't know like about
the business.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I think there's a lot of girls who fucking hate
each other behind the scenes and sometimes still have to
work together, but it's all behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Well, they can talk to your fucking agent, because I
don't work with anybody I don't like. I literally just
said I'm.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Not walking at yours.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I mean it can change. Like there's some people that
like talk like smack online and are just very like
uneducated with like the stuff they talk about. Like there's
this one girl who just like totally reamed guys who
use the injection and pills, And I'm like, okay, but
we use botox, we have implants, we have makeup, we
have hair extensions, we have lube. So there's like all
(41:42):
these things that us as women do to like get
the scene done and look good. All the guy has
to do is be fucking hard. So why are you
trying to slam the male talents for literally doing their job?
And so I got really pissed because I said, why
are you trying to, you know, make these group of
people that already maybe might feel ashamed that they're not
like one hundred percent hard the whole day, Like why
(42:04):
go and drag them through the mud and so stuff's.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Like on your list even though you hadn't like worked.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
With yes, because I I just know like somebody who
has that type of ideal and then like continue to
like argue with me in the DMS because I just
said like, hey, you know, like I don't really understand
like why you would say this. Can you like give
me like I had like a little bit of a
bitchy tone. But she came back at me and was like, well,
maybe you need to go back to school and learn
some comprehension because you don't know what the fact I said.
(42:32):
And I went back because I was like, okay, like
let me let me maybe I didn't read this right.
I said, no, this is literally like shutting down the
male talent for using things to get the scene, because you.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Know, what it reminds me of is like when we
there's been a couple of girls over the years who
like are natural and then they like hate on girls
have surgery and shit, and it's just like, okay, like
a good for you. That's great that you're natural, or
at least you're at the point in your career where
you don't feel the need to have any classes surgery
or whatever, but like why put down the girls who
like nactual boobs?
Speaker 4 (43:05):
But like I I wasn't born with them, so like
I could, I could.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I could do the whole little elitist thing and be like,
oh I don't have to shoot my dickup or whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
So I'm fucking awesome, Like no tattoos, How do I
get out of there?
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Like why would I want to like put other dudes
down just for doing what they got to do to
get their check, you know.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Right, So there's certain people that like have different opinions
or like this other girl, like like when we have
beef in the industry, like nobody really like shows up
and is like, yeah, let's tussle. Like we're all like
pretty much girly girls. But there are a couple of
girls that are like I have bail money, and I'm like,
I will never be on set with you because who knows,
Like if you're if you have a freak out or
like say something's going on in your phone and you
(43:42):
freak the fuck out. Now like everybody is like traumatized
by your behavior like on set. But I'm very selective
with who I'm alone with, So I prefer to be
on and I set with like twenty thirty people.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
We got one dude film and then one of.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Other people out there. There's like ten fifteen people here.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
They're not really a concerned but not going to fight you.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I'm not alone in a house with just a guy
on a camera, like other people here to vouch on
the scenario, the situation. It's not a he said. She said, yeah,
but I just wish that like people were more thoughtful
of like the long term of like what they want
to do, like with their porn career, because people are like,
oh my god, how are you so successful? Like why
do you like you've taken so long to do stuff.
(44:27):
I'm like, yeah, guys, this is like a twenty year
long fucking career. Why are you guys trying to be
like wam bam done a three years?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Wait? How long has your career been?
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Mine's already five years And I just did a scene
with two guys like last summer that came out. So
you never see never done anal, never done a gang bang,
never done a blowbang.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Do you feel like you're building up to these things though?
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I am? Yeah, yeah, I am. I have a couple
of things scheduled for this year. It's just I do
porn for trophies, like this is my sport. Like I
like the money, but at the end of the day,
like it makes me feel really good knowing that, like
my DVD are ranking higher and I'm selling more DVDs
and I'm on the cover of the DVDs, and that
my fan base is growing, and that these people are
so obsessed with me that they have all my stuff
(45:09):
and they vote for me. And because I want these
lifelong fans who stick with me for twenty years. Because
like I have a video game like releasing next week
where I'm a little character and you can play as me.
I want all these guys to come and play my game.
If I, like, you know, I have a fleshlight. I
want all these guys to come and buy my flash light, Like,
oh my god, we did a collab, Like let's buy
our flashlights and have a threesome with us. Like you
(45:29):
can curate your porn career around selling like merchandise and
other things. And maybe I'll have a rap career. I
don't know. I might have a song and great Stato
six or something. I don't know. He's literally like this
close delusional.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Well, I was gonna say, if you need, you know,
any firepower for your anal debut.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Oh god, she's not calling you. What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (45:57):
You're gonna promote it for me? No, he won't, to
fuck you.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, I'm gonna promote it for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I don't know. I don't know if you would want
to do that.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
No, I think I know I would want to do that.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
It was his favorite thing.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Might be the end of the relationship. Yeah, we're kind of.
We're sort of on opposite sides of the they.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Do you say that is a sign that guys can
be a little sussy?
Speaker 3 (46:19):
No, there's no chance of that.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
But it's a butt, but's not a butt?
Speaker 1 (46:24):
No, Okay, I just totally need to hear it from you.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Pussy and pussy way different
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