May 20, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Day. Plug Talk is the best only podcast where the
old smashed to guess. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Plug Talk is the best only podcasts where the hold
smashed to guess. Hey, everybody, welcome back to plug Talk.
My name is Adam twenty two. I am joined by
my lovely snack of a wife, one of the plug
and today your eyes are not deceiving you, but we
are actually going to sleep with Kazumi on plug Talk
for the first time ever. Yes we've slept with her before,
(00:28):
and yes she's been on plug talk before, but never
have we done a one on one two on one.
I guess this is a two man with Kazumi. You've
been with another man on plug talk, and we've worked
with you for other purposes, but this is our first
time coming together on the Orange couch and doing the
whole shebang. And to be totally real, we just had
(00:50):
a really organic, great five minutes of content that we
just lost. Personally, I feel like we almost should just
include the audio version.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Of it, like my feet. Well, we'll include the audio,
but it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Was chewing gum.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Everyone yelled at.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Me, I'm chewing my gum. He doesn't like it?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh yeah, okay, why would you no? Gum on podcasts.
Act like you've done this before. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Okay, now, but everyone's roasting.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Just got reprimanded for chewing gum like she's never done
this before. Holy shit, some people like that.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, I get paid on my only fan's life, did
chew gum?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Repeated I gotta do a brig baby eating uba tuba
on the podcast. And then we got to do with
you chewing fucking wrigglies.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm your fan to do that, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm gonna keep that in mind for later. You're gonna
get punished. It's like gross, Yeah, don't put it on
the couch, sick.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
This couch is gross already as.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It is not that gross. It's not like having gums
stuck to it.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Were you guys talking about putting feet in pussies? Okay,
don't tell me that my gum is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It was a different couch horn podcast. That's acceptable. Chewing
gum on a podcast not acceptableist podcast. Anyway, Let's move
past Lena being super irresponsible um. Okay, okay, I'm gonna
be real with you. When I notther on your foot,
it's kind of letdown what I like doing the face
I like doing the mouth boobs. Okay, that's like a
(02:10):
solid second place, but the foot it felt dumb, like
I could I could come on anyone's Oh that's dirty.
You got like leaves and twigs stuck to it.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The other day I had to interrupt the plug talk
scene to clean the other girl's feet because her feet
were so dirty. No, like, I'm watching them start the
scene without me, and I just noticed the girl's feet
are so dirty that I had to grab the baby
wipes and be like, lit'sen, girl, let's let's tidy these up.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
This is your office. Your office is dirty. That's why
our feet are.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't tell people to walk around with us shoes on.
If anything, Viv should be telling people, hey, bring some crocks.
This is just like the water park.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
We walk around here with no pants, no shoes.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And that's fine, but you still need crocs. Just like
the water park, we have slippers.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's okay, let's focus on because it may.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I noticed you had an Instagram story the other day
where you're basically saying that you've changed so much. You're
a whole new person. You're not hustling the way that
you once wear your priorities have changed. Let's talk a
little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, I traveled the world for six months. I got
on a quarter life crisis. I got hot a lot hotter.
Very important is.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Lena super triggered by you acting like what made you
hotter was losing weight?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Just so you know, I so sorry.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I mean, at first no Jumper appearance.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
When he sent me the photo of the girl in
the banana suit, I was like, damn, she's hot.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You thought I was hot in the banana suit?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah hot?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, girl face card face card. And then I saw
the ass and I was like, hold package.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I've always I've always had a good BBL.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But I liked fat Zoomie.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You like fat Zoomy?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I mean was that fair? I mean she was a
little bigger and I liked Zoomy. Yeah, she was giving
ham the Gang Bang era Kazumi. Okay, maybe not, I've
seen pictures of that. It was not great, but you
would modern fat Zoomie. I'm down with.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, she was curvalicious, she wasn't fat, she had a
good heart.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, no, she was hot.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I feel like I've calmed down so much since, Like
back in my Gang Bang heydays, I remember like you know,
going on life and finding listens for random gang bangs
at the Ramadah and then pulling up in the school
girl outfit and just getting nuked. And now I just
do that like once a month, Like I can't do that.
Everything that still sounds like a lot. No, I used
to have an addiction.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Shut up.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I do do gangbangs for free. Why well, I didn't
have to be hot guys. Now I used to not care.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Okay, we've seen you do like a fixing gang bang
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Sure, hot guys, exactly, they're professionals.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It's not the same as like the guy who was
watching my car being in a gang bang before.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I was at Fouquette like last week and I had
a gang bang.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What really?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, well my friends organized like a little orgy situation. No, no, no,
that was for fun. But everyone was tested because we
were like in a sex party scene.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Okay, that's tolerable.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yes, I think gangbang once a month. Really, that's fine,
and then I can go back and be like a
normal society girl.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Okay, but now you're back, and how much like worn
content do you plan on shooting every week?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I booked like maybe like four shoots this month, which
is more than usual. But I feel like lately I've
just been on on vibes, like I don't want to
work anymore. I feel like I hustled. I hustled. I
hustled for like two three years, and then I like
made it to a cool point and now I'm kind
of like, because for.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You, sex really seems like your hobby.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But if you're shooting every single day, I can't imagine
you'd have the appetite for a gang bang once a month.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All these things that I'm shooting this month, besides this,
are all like super anal scenes, which I love butt.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Sex describe super anal like.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'm a super girl. I have a super butthole, super cox.
I got to go ask the pussy, ask the mouth,
ask pussy mouth asked, like like pfect.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah. I don't know if I feel like I've never
done it on camera, but when I see it in
a scene.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm like, oh no, that's super anal. When you can
go ask the pussy to mouth, I'm better to you.
No check it my but hoole are rules? Wait?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
What empty meaning not full of shit?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh? Okay, okay, gaping like black hole?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No okay, no, I'm not I'm not giving you all that,
but no, okay, let's be real though, there is like
a law of diminishing returns that quickly kicks in in
the porn world where it's like, yeah, you can shoot
one hundred scenes in a month. But I mean at
a certain point, it just doesn't really like add more income, right,
And same thing with doing all these podcasts. It's like
you do like a couple of podcasts, you've kind of
(06:31):
like gotten the majority of what you're going to get
from doing podcasts, and then unless you go on like
a very very big podcast, it's not really like adding anything, right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, unless I have like some major breakthrough. Oh, I
have Kazunus University, which is cool. Congratulations, it was very
well done. Thank you. It's still being sold. Yeah. It's
like a it's a course where I teach people how
to run their only fans independently. And I feel like
that's like a new fun challenge because I feel like
with only fans, I know how to do it. I
know like how to dance like a monkey, like do
(07:00):
the thing. But I feel like I've just gone a
little bored, like I did a TikTok I wanted to
commit suicide, like I was. I was like, it's so
over what Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I have so many different ways we can go with this,
but it feels like you, you know, you came in
the game and we like, for for years we referred
to you as like a robot that was like created
to increase your only fans sales, and now you've like
decided that somehow you you don't appreciate that kind of
stuff anymore over the hustle. I feel like, as soon
(07:29):
as you start to see your numbers dip by ten percent,
you're gonna be like fully back on it.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You're probably right, You're like I feel like if I
look at my page and it like goes if it
goes below a certain number, I feel like I'd be
like it's time to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Damn because what if this keeps happening?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, And with your course, I mean, you're obviously also
encouraging people to use social media as a platform, right,
so it's like you have to tell those people to
make the tiktoks are real that you.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
TikTok specifically, I like podcasts and porn is fun. But
as you said, like after a while, kind of plateaus
like it's kind of like, okay, like what else can
I do in this space?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Well, also, you two have something very specific in common,
which is you've both be extreme viral heights to the
point where it's almost like, oh, there's almost nowhere else
to go. Yeah, Jason love Era was so gigantic that
she at a certain point just kind of has to
accept like, probably there's not going to be something bigger
(08:28):
than that unless I just somehow stumbled into the craziest
thing ever. And with you, it was a little bit
less of like a specific moment, but like some of
those early No Jumper clips were just so unbelievable viral,
and your blow up was.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Just like very I had great compounding effects because I
just I did it right, and I felt like I'm
happy with what I did. I feel like I just
want like a new way to feel that feel alive again,
Like I want to, like, do I do another podcast?
Do I like do?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
You're always doing so many cool projects, and I mean,
I'm lucky you get to have a window into your
life because you post so much on your story, which.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I appreciate because I walked all of it.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But like you're always doing something that's creative and not
is not necessarily going to bring back into your only fans.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And I really appreciate that that You're.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Like you're doing it for you, you know, yeah, not just.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Doing it to get another sub. At a point, it's
like we just make so much money. I feel like
we can just vibe. And I don't have kids, so
like now I want to like travel to world and
just do like like when I launched that burger, Lol,
Like what the fuck? Like I could just you didn't
you weren't there for to.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Burger available to burgers, but it looked delicious.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No, I launched a burger at a restaurant and I
launched a mocktail.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
What is launching a burger?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Like? I kept going to this. I kept going to Amboy,
which is a Filipino owned burger restaurant, and at some
point a chef, Alvin who made eggs Lett, was like,
why don't you make a kazumi burger? So we made
one and we sold it at the store. It was
bomb diggity. It looked really delicious.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
No, I love doing side plus I feel like if
if anything, like, I want to keep doing porn like
as a hobby. And then I want to just do
random shit. I just did New York Fashion Week. That
was cool. It looks really cool. Yeah, I just walked. No.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I feel like a certain point the porn thing is
just like you're not going to get attention from the
porn thing. You got to like become a classical pianist
and then everybody will be like, WHOA, she does porn
and now she's an amazing piano player, And that is
somehow the viral thing, because it's like, you know, you're
just not gonna like go on another podcast and get
(10:19):
this like giant wave of attention unless you really, unless
I lock it, have something completely different.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You want to do something more and more extreme.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I mean, the competition is so crazy now.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Everyone's dream I'm about like just like I'm about showing
like range, Like I want to like do like dancing
to stars, you know, like I want to do fucking
bear grills, Like like I'm like peeing in like a
desert and I'm surviving for thirty days? Did you do that?
I could totally pee in a desert.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But aren't these things that like specifically porn stars probably
are not going to be able to do, like mainstream
things that yes, everybody would like to go on these
huge TV shows, but.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
To us, I will say thanks to you and me
and Lena and like our like generation of porn people
were able would like go do so many things, like
especially with o F TV, like kind of push, like
being pitched to like networks. I feel like it's time
for us to like we're cracking in, like it's there's
no there's no limit anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I mean I don't think so. No, you're not going
on Dancing with the Stars. I think they're not giving
those kinds of opportunities to porn stars, or at least
they haven't, and it's very hard to imagine why they
would want to. The advertisers might flee.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah that's me. But I think we're like headed towards
the generation where it's gonna be that's dancing anything though
A right. I like to do hot ones.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I think it could do hot ones another one like
you think that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
He didn't listen Stratton that's kind.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Of dated and then broke up as soon as it
became public.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I think I could do hot ones. In the middle
of hot ones, they should say like your mom died,
like in the middle, like what in the middle of
like hot ones.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Say, you're why No, I just want to think.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Wuld be a funny reaction. Okay, Okay he's.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Been holding onto Yeah for sure, the worst like anyone's
ever said on this podcast. Okay, but I mean I
just don't think the world is ready for that. And
if anything, we had the reaction going to AVN of
like a huge percentage of the hottest girls that we
met Warri at Avin who are not already established porn stars.
We realized pretty quickly like oh, she's not coming on
(12:15):
plug talk because she either just does girl girl or
she only fucks her boyfriend. And that kind of makes
me feel like, oh shit, Like this modern era of
influencers and content creators. For a while, we're just starting
to really do porn because it was the best way
to monetize. But now they're kind of realizing like, well,
if Ruby Rose is making all this money and she's
never you know, shown herself taking a dick, maybe I
(12:36):
don't need to do that either. It feels like the
generation that's coming up isn't necessarily thinking like oheah, I'm
gonna do porn for real unless they just still do porn.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Is they just do it? With their boyfriend, but that's
still porn dilemma is like I'm a real slug. I
love sex and porn, and like if I could make money,
can if like if my life style didn't change and
all I could do was make porn and not do
everything else, I would just do porn. But like, as
you said, like you don't people don't have to do that,
Like they're like, you don't have to like have like
(13:05):
a hundred scenes on like porn hub to make as
much money as Ruby Rose, like in fact, like less
is more, And that's like my eternal dilemma, my my
biggest sadness.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
There's a bunch of girls I've looked up on Pornhub
over the years where I just realized, like, oh, they
don't have anything. Yeah, they're like pretty huge on Instagram,
but they just patrol porn Hub to make sure they
don't have any kind of stuff on there. For us,
it's like we have a fair amount of stuff even
though we don't want obviously like our prime content on there.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's impressive that we like all make so much money
despite the fact that.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Like I don't know what you're talking about, I don't
make any.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, me either.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I'm just I'm just doing this for the love of
the art.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm doing this for the love of the game.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And my only fans check every month goes to starving
babies in Lithuania.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know if there actually are any starving babies
out there. It's fun. Yeah, there's just one kid, rich
as fuck. He's not even starving anymore. It's amazing, you
know who.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I really enjoy those gang bang girls. I like, I
feel like I don't want to take credit for it
because I mean, like I'm not the first girl to gangbang,
but I think like gangban girls in general have an amazing
pr game, Like Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips are like
under shit.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And I love that you were like the original viral
social media OnlyFans girl who was talking about gang bangs,
but you just like didn't lean into it as much
as they did, and you were really just talking about
it and you weren't like going and filming a fifty
guy game bang.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Isn't it interesting? Like I never filmed that, Like I
was talking about a story that having me years ago,
like and everyone, I mean, it did happen, but it's
crazy that like I just had to talk about it,
and now it's like people have to fuck like five
bajillion dudes on camera for like be like proof in
the Magic.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
To me, the Lily and Bonnie Blue era that we're
in right now is kind of like the end of
social media porn marketing in a way where it's just like,
there's not going to be any more easy chicks after that.
And really, in comparison, what you guys went viral for
seems so unbelievably easy in comparison to actually fucking the
thousand dudes.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah. Yeah, Like it's crazy to think, like, wow, like
four years ago, I just talked about a gang bang
and it changed my life completely, Like I went on
a million podcasts. I was able to like retire and
just do cool shit, And now like people have to
do I wonder what's next.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The Jason Love trick amazing. That's not gonna work for
anybody else unless you're like way more famous than us.
Maybe yeah, maybe then it would work. It's kind of
hard to imagine it were famous than us doing.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
It, but I one more famous in the other plug.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I mean, but you know what I'm saying, like that
that trick not ever gonna work again. The Gangbang thing
never gonna work again. It's just like everybody's gonna be
kind of forced to get by on their own talents
and hotness.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah. No, it was like an arms raced to the
craziest story, and I feel like we reached we reached it,
and now it's like, but the funny thing is like
we weren't.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
We weren't actively thinking about that while we were doing it,
Like you weren't thinking, like, what is the craziest thing
I could say?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
You were just like this is something I did actually,
you know.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, it was interesting because it's like I talked about
gangangs and then afterwards it was like this whole wave
of people talking about a million sex stories on every
podcast ever. But it doesn't hit if it doesn't feel genuine.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, it's like it's.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Like, if you're not about that life, it's so obvious.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Everybody is so much more numb to the crazy stuff,
Whereas when you were telling that gang bang story, people
hadn't got into the mentality of thinking, oh, she's just
saying that to go viral, which is what you feel
now because people don't even have to go on podcasts,
they just fake it. They stick a mic in their face,
and they just like, we could be doing that right now.
You guys could leave and I could pretend that I
was talking to somebody and I could tell crazy stories
(16:30):
and we can make a real out of it. It
would work. But at that era when you were doing that,
nobody was thinking like, nah, she's full of shit. She
never did that.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
No, it's so crazy to think about, like I wouldn't
have us take credit, but to think about, like how
we like, you know, we like change the trajectory of
like OnlyFans marketing for a lot of people for like
probably forever.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Some might say you killed it. Yeah, that'll never be
the same.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You'll never say desjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay. It's like these eras take place and then they
go away, and then there becomes a new meta. Yeah
it is the new meta. I don't know, but it's like, Okay,
if it's like only fans of girls just need skills,
If you became like unbelievably good at Fortnite, I'm not
even unbelievably good, but just played day and day out,
you were just part of that scene, then all these
Fortnite kids are probably gonna at some point start paying
(17:15):
attention to you in.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Some way sort anything else I can do Fortnite doesn't
tell them you can do splits about doing Fortnite splits?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, can you do the splits?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Of course, that's why I'm funny splits.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
No, I can't do a split. Did I even need
to say that? I don't know, But like, hobbies are
hard to come by, Like.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Really, I love hobbies.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I love what kind of hobbies do you have?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I feel like right now it's going to.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Be something you did like two times.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I like to explore different subcultures, like I hung out
of juggles it became a juggler for a day.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I became a fury tourist. You're not a real Juggalo.
If you were a real Juggalo, then yes, the Juggalo
community would probably rally around I did.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I did. I went on stage, and you know how
like showcase in your buttthole is a sign of respect.
I shoved the rubber duck up my ass for the Juggalo.
So I became a real juggle bloop or what spit
not juffalos. Juffalo's are fake Juggalos. I became like an inaugurated.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Jun f Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Juffalo fake Jeffalo gang right there. Jeffalo is such a
fun words.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
To the rubber chicken up your ass and then what
you just sh it out?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I didn't ship it out. I was actually clean.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You left it there?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
No, no, no, I took it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That's cool that you're clean. But how did you get
it out as you walk?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I like love anal a lot. Sorry, I was just
I just thought about it. I just got excited.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Listen me too. One day I'm gonna do it again.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
You know, I have like less than twenty mainstream scenes
like in general. No, I mean, I like I have
so much only fans independent content, but like I feel like,
you know, same thing, Like you reach a ceiling and
it's like anal unless you're just gonna go super insane
hard tour and I'm kind of like now, I just
want like beautiful like Vixen, like high production like James
Bond porn, Like that's what I want. Do you like
to do all the acting and all that? I love that.
(18:55):
I feel like I like feeling like a star. Yeah,
I feel like I like TV and getting into like
entertain like that.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
How do you not get stressed about being on set
doing anal.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I starve, I get a colonic. I do everything in
my power and I love anal like I feel like
when I like when I have Like when I did
my first air tight, I felt like that was like
the equivalent of like of like running a marathon or
like yeah, having ice bath, like I'm better than you,
like but in all of you, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Like wow, yeah, maybe that's the next thing. Yeah, air
tight with a thousand dudes.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That's crazy. Well, I think Lily Phillips just did a
fifty guy fan gangbang and that was anal.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, the new episode.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
But it's like, how many more spin offs of ganggans
do we need? Like now be a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, it's all going to be too confused.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But the beauty of the beauty of a gang bang
is like, you know you do it, and like the
juxtaposition is that you're such a beautiful, hot girl, like
how could you do such a thing? But then if
you do like so many gang bangs, it's like then.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You're just you're just just a regular gang You're.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Just a gang bang girl, which I respect. I love
a fellow gang bang girl, right, I I want a
gang bame with them.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
You've done so many cool things, so many scenes, Like
what do you think could excite you? Like, what offer
could you get to do something that would make you excited?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
At this point, I think it's pretty clear there's nothing right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I feel like now it's just chasing new experiences. Like
if I could do like a Vixen style showcase that
was like James Bond fiend where I'm like jumping out
of a helicopter and then I like have like a
like a combat like like John Wick, like like little
fight moment like I and then it ends of atal,
like hell.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
This is just like self glorification because the fans don't
care about this, don't care about anything. Fans don't care
about the theatrical fan like industry ship.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Like last year, I feel I always hired a videographer
for all my porn, and then I realized, like the
best performing shit is just like normal amateur like getting
sucked in a car by a stranger.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
See I hear that that, like the bad filming is
better than good filming.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Relatable is what they want.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Well, it only works when you're established already. If you're
like a shitty content creator making shitty content, you're just like,
but if it's like a home video of like Lenna
sucking your dick in the car, Like, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
But there's a level of bad filming that I think
people are just not going to be interested in. But
then there's like good bad filming.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
No, I've i on Twitter, I've seen a lot of
bad porn and I'm like, where where do we jack off?
One of the best scenes is one of the worst things.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Sure, Like I had that realization years ago with the
bike thing and realizing that like a crazy trick filmed
with an iPhone is more likely to go viral than
a crazy trick film with a bunch of cinematic cameras
because it just the iPhone angle looks like somebodyho was
just walking down the street and just saw a guy
jumping down a twenty stair. That just appeals to them more.
It feels more raw. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I used to hate like taking iPhone pictures, and now
I'm like getting into it. I'm very scared of how
I look at an iPhone. Why I think I look
way better on a camera. My phone photos are so
good now. No, No, I'm a little ugo and like on
the iPhone, I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
A rather than not use real film or real like
camera people. For like our No Jumper, we have this
like on a FaceTime like why not just use the
fucking iPhone and like build the set so that it's
easy to take the iPhone picture because I feel like
that's kind of what people want to see anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, I don't want the BTS. I feel like the
BTS is way better than the picture anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The problem is is like the more port you do,
the more you want a film good. Because to me,
especially when I'm self filming, it's like you really you
got one angle only and it kind of sucks. And
there's like a lot of sex positions that you could
film that you could do if you had a real filmer,
and then you basically should not even bother to do
if you're filming it yourself.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I get frustrated with like the fact that fans
are like don't really care about the craft as much
as I do. Like for me, like when I signed
with vix and I hung out of Adriana Checchi for
like a day and she like told me about all
of the things that like, you know, all the positions,
all the posing, all the dirty talk. Like whenever I
like I'm in my makeup chair, I write down all
my dirty talk, like in like my like notes app
(22:36):
just and repeat it the whole time. And then I
feel like when I'm like on set, like everyone's like, cool,
you did it, and I'm like, but that was my life.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like like I was treating this as an NFL,
like fucking football game. That's the right sport, right NFL, Yes,
that's football.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yes, Yeah, that's cool that you are like practicing your
improval lines in advance.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But yeah, I think like dirty talk is such a
scary thing, like even in regular life.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Are you a dirty talker? Is she a dirty talk girl?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
In real life?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Rarely?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
I feel like camming helped me talk more, be more,
a little more vocal when we would have sex because
I had to talk so much on camera. But it's
it's like you feel like you're taking such a big
risk every time you say something.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I can be unleashed. Like if I'm like really into it,
I will say something absurd. I've heard you say a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Of them, but it's kind of like when you're saying
something when you're doing porn, you want it to be
this like bold declarative statement. You don't want to be
like kind of meandering through your sentence or whatever. You
want to just say something that's like big and simple
and easy to understand, because the most awkward thing is
when you're shooting porn and you say something and the
girl takes the dick out of her mouth and she's like,
what would you say? Like that is such a vibe
(23:47):
killer that it's immediately like okay, no, like we got
to redo that because like you can't. You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's so awkward when you aren't doing porn and then
you try to do a trick shot and it just flops,
you know, Like it's like you just try to do
like a cool fucking move, like a cool blowjob or
a cool like writing move, and the guy just stares
at you, like.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You go to spit on the deck and he just
lands right on the floor.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, yeah, you like it's like flop city. I'm so sorry. No.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I have the same realization with like saying stuff on
stage at concerts and ship is that you have to
keep it really fucking simple. And then when you think
about it, like most artists that you see performing they
kind of just say, are the same ship that everybody
else says, who are you guys? Happy to be here?
Who makes some noise? I want to hear this side
of the crowd makes some noise of this side of
the crowd makes noise like like all that shit like
(24:32):
as it seems so unbelievably cliche, but it's because like
just talking like a normal person on stage doesn't really work.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, remember the baby like he was like, hey, who's
not fucking good?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He's an example of that. Yeah, yeah, I don't give
a fuck. Y'all got aids? Goodbye, Mike, throw it on
the ground. Yeah, ruined his career for a while.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, yeah, is he back? I don't know. Yeah, you know,
I've never really fucked celebrities. I've always fucking normies. Never
wants celebrities. Okay, okay, okay, but like I like, I've
never fucked like a brad pit like yeasy, guy. I
don't know. I feel like, am I missing out? I
(25:11):
don't know what like that sauces from what I've heard.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
No, I feel like no one's gotten like a great
ley from a celeb.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So much about getting tested. I feel like all these
celebs have major aids.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I feel like they would get tested for you. I
just don't think that you're gonna have a good time
because you've already been with like professional male porn star.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I don't look like the epussy. I love sucking a
regular guy. I don't need like a porn star dick.
But if a guy is open to being trained.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I will.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I will put you to the workshop.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Are you like the place in your sex life where
you just want to be like worshiped the whole time?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I always want to be worshiped. Excuse me, but I think,
like right now, I think I would love to make love.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
How would you feel if you like one our Drake's
house and he gave you like a solid eight minutes
and it was fine, it would be cool, and then
he just dipped and went back to recording afterwards, and.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It'd be a cool candidate spreience for you. That's like,
that would be like my signifier, like, yes, you're a
hot girl.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Okay, but you also have to not talk about it.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
But I will still talk about it to my friends
and my deep deep colleagues.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm saying that it's fine, you know, if you just
like immediately do an Instagram reel about it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I'm not gonna be like her own validation.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, but I've totally had nights where I'm okay, actually
I have fucked a few celebs, ay, but I didn't
count because it was still so lame and so stupid
that I no one has ever rocked my world as
a celeb.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I girls tell me that they were gonna fuck some
celebrity and that their boyfriend was just cool with it,
like porn star girls, And that's just like so shocked
to me. I understand the logic of like, Okay, I'm
gonna let you shoot with this porn star guys that
you can make money, but the idea that you're just
gonna like spend your Tuesday afternoon going to fuck a
famous person just because it doesn't really amount really, I
(26:46):
feel a guy accept that. How does your boyfriend accept
all this shit?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I well, he's alloted to fuck girls. I mean, like,
wouldn't it be crazy if I was like, hey, he
says you don't do porn, you can't fuck girls, Like
you'd be like what the fuck? Like you fuck guys
all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I guess for your world the.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Other And also, we were swingers before porn, like we
were open relationshipping it up before, so I feel like
for him, it's like, okay, if you casually want to
fuck someone and you can okay.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Cards on the table. Though it's one thing for you
to fuck someone, it's another thing for you to spend
your birthday in a foreign land fucking random people.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Did not fuck a random person. I fucked one dude
member day, but I just don't.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Care how that's like like, and I realized this is
the same shit that people say to me all the time.
It's like, how could you ever be okay with your
girl ever being with another guy? That's one thing spending
your birthday and Thailand getting banged out by some dude
is another thing.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I was in Dubai.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You ate a cream a camel turd?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
No? No, but I did run a camel and it
was really cute. Yeah. Yeah, Well we're open. We're polyamorous,
but like polyamorous as in like we're able to like
date utter people, not just like open as in like
be like fuck utter people, but like I like dating,
like I like romance and yearning. But I did go
to Bangkok to get to bang some cop, but that
(28:01):
wasn't on my birthday. That was a few days after.
So it's fine, that's okay, it's just for me.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
If I'm going to be in a relationship, it's like, well,
I feel like we should probably hang out on your birthday, okay?
Or that.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, Like I feel like when I'm in love with someone,
I'm giving so much of myself to that person I
can't imagine giving any more to anyone else. Like how
do you balance that? Like do you feel how are
you able to compartmentalize? Do not confuse the stories of
like was it this guy who told me?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Or this guy? No? I mean I like I have.
I feel like every person I date is so different
from one another day. I feel like different experiences in
my life. Like I don't like compare my best friends,
so I don't really compare lovers. Okay, yes, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Mean Also it's like, yeah, he's allowed to fuck girls,
but let's be real, Like it's gonna take a lot
of work to fuck as many partners as your friend.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
A competition Adam twenty two.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But why wouldn't it be a competition everything else doing it? It
would be That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Do you make it a contest?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I would not make it a contest. She's looking like
a dude. Every orange couch it's like not a compact.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I would do it just to piss you off. I
would be trying to fuck girls to make you mad.
Why I'd be picking the girls that would make you
the most mad. Wow, you fok.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Four hundred girls in the last eight years.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I have looked four guys. Yeah, she needs to catch up. Honestly,
I haven't want to catching up guys apparently, And I
will help you any way you like. She'll bring me to.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
A ganggagmon who all kinds of games will supportive friend me. Yeah,
you're a gang man girl, know something?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Are not gang bangs? There some suck I like even numbers.
I don't do three sons. Okay, except for this one.
Except for this one. She doesn't want to be here. Guys, No,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
We are on a timeframet, so maybe we should just
use that as a segue.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
No, this feels so incestual. You guys are like my parents.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You don't mean that you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Like are like my pops.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
The way I act towards my family members is absolutely
completely different than the way I toar Zero.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I have been sexualizing you by just staring at your
tits the whole time.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I haven't you staring at your tits? We are friends,
but I also want to bang bangeroni pepperoni.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Why wait?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Shall we Are you bricked?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Let's grab a Snickers
Day. Plug Talk is the best only podcast where the
old smashed to guess. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Plug Talk is the best only podcasts where the hold
smashed to guess. Hey, everybody, welcome back to plug Talk.
My name is Adam twenty two. I am joined by
my lovely snack of a wife, one of the plug
and today your eyes are not deceiving you, but we
are actually going to sleep with Kazumi on plug Talk
for the first time ever. Yes we've slept with her before,
(00:28):
and yes she's been on plug talk before, but never
have we done a one on one two on one.
I guess this is a two man with Kazumi. You've
been with another man on plug talk, and we've worked
with you for other purposes, but this is our first
time coming together on the Orange couch and doing the
whole shebang. And to be totally real, we just had
(00:50):
a really organic, great five minutes of content that we
just lost. Personally, I feel like we almost should just
include the audio version.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Of it, like my feet. Well, we'll include the audio,
but it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Was chewing gum.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Everyone yelled at.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Me, I'm chewing my gum. He doesn't like it?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh yeah, okay, why would you no? Gum on podcasts.
Act like you've done this before. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Okay, now, but everyone's roasting.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Just got reprimanded for chewing gum like she's never done
this before. Holy shit, some people like that.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, I get paid on my only fan's life, did
chew gum?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Repeated I gotta do a brig baby eating uba tuba
on the podcast. And then we got to do with
you chewing fucking wrigglies.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm your fan to do that, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm gonna keep that in mind for later. You're gonna
get punished. It's like gross, Yeah, don't put it on
the couch, sick.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
This couch is gross already as.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It is not that gross. It's not like having gums
stuck to it.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Were you guys talking about putting feet in pussies? Okay,
don't tell me that my gum is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It was a different couch horn podcast. That's acceptable. Chewing
gum on a podcast not acceptableist podcast. Anyway, Let's move
past Lena being super irresponsible um. Okay, okay, I'm gonna
be real with you. When I notther on your foot,
it's kind of letdown what I like doing the face
I like doing the mouth boobs. Okay, that's like a
(02:10):
solid second place, but the foot it felt dumb, like
I could I could come on anyone's Oh that's dirty.
You got like leaves and twigs stuck to it.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The other day I had to interrupt the plug talk
scene to clean the other girl's feet because her feet
were so dirty. No, like, I'm watching them start the
scene without me, and I just noticed the girl's feet
are so dirty that I had to grab the baby
wipes and be like, lit'sen, girl, let's let's tidy these up.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
This is your office. Your office is dirty. That's why
our feet are.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't tell people to walk around with us shoes on.
If anything, Viv should be telling people, hey, bring some crocks.
This is just like the water park.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
We walk around here with no pants, no shoes.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And that's fine, but you still need crocs. Just like
the water park, we have slippers.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's okay, let's focus on because it may.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I noticed you had an Instagram story the other day
where you're basically saying that you've changed so much. You're
a whole new person. You're not hustling the way that
you once wear your priorities have changed. Let's talk a
little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, I traveled the world for six months. I got
on a quarter life crisis. I got hot a lot hotter.
Very important is.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Lena super triggered by you acting like what made you
hotter was losing weight?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Just so you know, I so sorry.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I mean, at first no Jumper appearance.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
When he sent me the photo of the girl in
the banana suit, I was like, damn, she's hot.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You thought I was hot in the banana suit?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah hot?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, girl face card face card. And then I saw
the ass and I was like, hold package.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I've always I've always had a good BBL.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But I liked fat Zoomie.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You like fat Zoomy?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I mean was that fair? I mean she was a
little bigger and I liked Zoomy. Yeah, she was giving
ham the Gang Bang era Kazumi. Okay, maybe not, I've
seen pictures of that. It was not great, but you
would modern fat Zoomie. I'm down with.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, she was curvalicious, she wasn't fat, she had a
good heart.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, no, she was hot.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I feel like I've calmed down so much since, Like
back in my Gang Bang heydays, I remember like you know,
going on life and finding listens for random gang bangs
at the Ramadah and then pulling up in the school
girl outfit and just getting nuked. And now I just
do that like once a month, Like I can't do that.
Everything that still sounds like a lot. No, I used
to have an addiction.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Shut up.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I do do gangbangs for free. Why well, I didn't
have to be hot guys. Now I used to not care.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Okay, we've seen you do like a fixing gang bang
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Sure, hot guys, exactly, they're professionals.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It's not the same as like the guy who was
watching my car being in a gang bang before.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I was at Fouquette like last week and I had
a gang bang.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What really?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, well my friends organized like a little orgy situation. No, no, no,
that was for fun. But everyone was tested because we
were like in a sex party scene.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Okay, that's tolerable.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yes, I think gangbang once a month. Really, that's fine,
and then I can go back and be like a
normal society girl.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Okay, but now you're back, and how much like worn
content do you plan on shooting every week?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I booked like maybe like four shoots this month, which
is more than usual. But I feel like lately I've
just been on on vibes, like I don't want to
work anymore. I feel like I hustled. I hustled. I
hustled for like two three years, and then I like
made it to a cool point and now I'm kind
of like, because for.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You, sex really seems like your hobby.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But if you're shooting every single day, I can't imagine
you'd have the appetite for a gang bang once a month.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All these things that I'm shooting this month, besides this,
are all like super anal scenes, which I love butt.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Sex describe super anal like.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I'm a super girl. I have a super butthole, super cox.
I got to go ask the pussy, ask the mouth,
ask pussy mouth asked, like like pfect.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah. I don't know if I feel like I've never
done it on camera, but when I see it in
a scene.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm like, oh no, that's super anal. When you can
go ask the pussy to mouth, I'm better to you.
No check it my but hoole are rules? Wait?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
What empty meaning not full of shit?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Oh? Okay, okay, gaping like black hole?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No okay, no, I'm not I'm not giving you all that,
but no, okay, let's be real though, there is like
a law of diminishing returns that quickly kicks in in
the porn world where it's like, yeah, you can shoot
one hundred scenes in a month. But I mean at
a certain point, it just doesn't really like add more income, right,
And same thing with doing all these podcasts. It's like
you do like a couple of podcasts, you've kind of
(06:31):
like gotten the majority of what you're going to get
from doing podcasts, and then unless you go on like
a very very big podcast, it's not really like adding anything, right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, unless I have like some major breakthrough. Oh, I
have Kazunus University, which is cool. Congratulations, it was very
well done. Thank you. It's still being sold. Yeah. It's
like a it's a course where I teach people how
to run their only fans independently. And I feel like
that's like a new fun challenge because I feel like
with only fans, I know how to do it. I
know like how to dance like a monkey, like do
(07:00):
the thing. But I feel like I've just gone a
little bored, like I did a TikTok I wanted to
commit suicide, like I was. I was like, it's so
over what Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I have so many different ways we can go with this,
but it feels like you, you know, you came in
the game and we like, for for years we referred
to you as like a robot that was like created
to increase your only fans sales, and now you've like
decided that somehow you you don't appreciate that kind of
stuff anymore over the hustle. I feel like, as soon
(07:29):
as you start to see your numbers dip by ten percent,
you're gonna be like fully back on it.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You're probably right, You're like I feel like if I
look at my page and it like goes if it
goes below a certain number, I feel like I'd be
like it's time to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Damn because what if this keeps happening?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, And with your course, I mean, you're obviously also
encouraging people to use social media as a platform, right,
so it's like you have to tell those people to
make the tiktoks are real that you.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
TikTok specifically, I like podcasts and porn is fun. But
as you said, like after a while, kind of plateaus
like it's kind of like, okay, like what else can
I do in this space?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Well, also, you two have something very specific in common,
which is you've both be extreme viral heights to the
point where it's almost like, oh, there's almost nowhere else
to go. Yeah, Jason love Era was so gigantic that
she at a certain point just kind of has to
accept like, probably there's not going to be something bigger
(08:28):
than that unless I just somehow stumbled into the craziest
thing ever. And with you, it was a little bit
less of like a specific moment, but like some of
those early No Jumper clips were just so unbelievable viral,
and your blow up was.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Just like very I had great compounding effects because I
just I did it right, and I felt like I'm
happy with what I did. I feel like I just
want like a new way to feel that feel alive again,
Like I want to, like, do I do another podcast?
Do I like do?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
You're always doing so many cool projects, and I mean,
I'm lucky you get to have a window into your
life because you post so much on your story, which.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I appreciate because I walked all of it.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But like you're always doing something that's creative and not
is not necessarily going to bring back into your only fans.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And I really appreciate that that You're.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Like you're doing it for you, you know, yeah, not just.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Doing it to get another sub. At a point, it's
like we just make so much money. I feel like
we can just vibe. And I don't have kids, so
like now I want to like travel to world and
just do like like when I launched that burger, Lol,
Like what the fuck? Like I could just you didn't
you weren't there for to.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Burger available to burgers, but it looked delicious.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No, I launched a burger at a restaurant and I
launched a mocktail.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
What is launching a burger?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Like? I kept going to this. I kept going to Amboy,
which is a Filipino owned burger restaurant, and at some
point a chef, Alvin who made eggs Lett, was like,
why don't you make a kazumi burger? So we made
one and we sold it at the store. It was
bomb diggity. It looked really delicious.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
No, I love doing side plus I feel like if
if anything, like, I want to keep doing porn like
as a hobby. And then I want to just do
random shit. I just did New York Fashion Week. That
was cool. It looks really cool. Yeah, I just walked. No.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I feel like a certain point the porn thing is
just like you're not going to get attention from the
porn thing. You got to like become a classical pianist
and then everybody will be like, WHOA, she does porn
and now she's an amazing piano player, And that is
somehow the viral thing, because it's like, you know, you're
just not gonna like go on another podcast and get
(10:19):
this like giant wave of attention unless you really, unless
I lock it, have something completely different.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You want to do something more and more extreme.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I mean, the competition is so crazy now.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Everyone's dream I'm about like just like I'm about showing
like range, Like I want to like do like dancing
to stars, you know, like I want to do fucking
bear grills, Like like I'm like peeing in like a
desert and I'm surviving for thirty days? Did you do that?
I could totally pee in a desert.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But aren't these things that like specifically porn stars probably
are not going to be able to do, like mainstream
things that yes, everybody would like to go on these
huge TV shows, but.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
To us, I will say thanks to you and me
and Lena and like our like generation of porn people
were able would like go do so many things, like
especially with o F TV, like kind of push, like
being pitched to like networks. I feel like it's time
for us to like we're cracking in, like it's there's
no there's no limit anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I mean I don't think so. No, you're not going
on Dancing with the Stars. I think they're not giving
those kinds of opportunities to porn stars, or at least
they haven't, and it's very hard to imagine why they
would want to. The advertisers might flee.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah that's me. But I think we're like headed towards
the generation where it's gonna be that's dancing anything though
A right. I like to do hot ones.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I think it could do hot ones another one like
you think that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
He didn't listen Stratton that's kind.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Of dated and then broke up as soon as it
became public.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I think I could do hot ones. In the middle
of hot ones, they should say like your mom died,
like in the middle, like what in the middle of
like hot ones.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Say, you're why No, I just want to think.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Wuld be a funny reaction. Okay, Okay he's.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Been holding onto Yeah for sure, the worst like anyone's
ever said on this podcast. Okay, but I mean I
just don't think the world is ready for that. And
if anything, we had the reaction going to AVN of
like a huge percentage of the hottest girls that we
met Warri at Avin who are not already established porn stars.
We realized pretty quickly like oh, she's not coming on
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plug talk because she either just does girl girl or
she only fucks her boyfriend. And that kind of makes
me feel like, oh shit, Like this modern era of
influencers and content creators. For a while, we're just starting
to really do porn because it was the best way
to monetize. But now they're kind of realizing like, well,
if Ruby Rose is making all this money and she's
never you know, shown herself taking a dick, maybe I
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don't need to do that either. It feels like the
generation that's coming up isn't necessarily thinking like oheah, I'm
gonna do porn for real unless they just still do porn.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Is they just do it? With their boyfriend, but that's
still porn dilemma is like I'm a real slug. I
love sex and porn, and like if I could make money,
can if like if my life style didn't change and
all I could do was make porn and not do
everything else, I would just do porn. But like, as
you said, like you don't people don't have to do that,
Like they're like, you don't have to like have like
(13:05):
a hundred scenes on like porn hub to make as
much money as Ruby Rose, like in fact, like less
is more, And that's like my eternal dilemma, my my
biggest sadness.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
There's a bunch of girls I've looked up on Pornhub
over the years where I just realized, like, oh, they
don't have anything. Yeah, they're like pretty huge on Instagram,
but they just patrol porn Hub to make sure they
don't have any kind of stuff on there. For us,
it's like we have a fair amount of stuff even
though we don't want obviously like our prime content on there.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's impressive that we like all make so much money
despite the fact that.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Like I don't know what you're talking about, I don't
make any.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, me either.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I'm just I'm just doing this for the love of
the art.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm doing this for the love of the game.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And my only fans check every month goes to starving
babies in Lithuania.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know if there actually are any starving babies
out there. It's fun. Yeah, there's just one kid, rich
as fuck. He's not even starving anymore. It's amazing, you
know who.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I really enjoy those gang bang girls. I like, I
feel like I don't want to take credit for it
because I mean, like I'm not the first girl to gangbang,
but I think like gangban girls in general have an amazing
pr game, Like Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips are like
under shit.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And I love that you were like the original viral
social media OnlyFans girl who was talking about gang bangs,
but you just like didn't lean into it as much
as they did, and you were really just talking about
it and you weren't like going and filming a fifty
guy game bang.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Isn't it interesting? Like I never filmed that, Like I
was talking about a story that having me years ago,
like and everyone, I mean, it did happen, but it's
crazy that like I just had to talk about it,
and now it's like people have to fuck like five
bajillion dudes on camera for like be like proof in
the Magic.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
To me, the Lily and Bonnie Blue era that we're
in right now is kind of like the end of
social media porn marketing in a way where it's just like,
there's not going to be any more easy chicks after that.
And really, in comparison, what you guys went viral for
seems so unbelievably easy in comparison to actually fucking the
thousand dudes.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah. Yeah, Like it's crazy to think, like, wow, like
four years ago, I just talked about a gang bang
and it changed my life completely, Like I went on
a million podcasts. I was able to like retire and
just do cool shit, And now like people have to
do I wonder what's next.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The Jason Love trick amazing. That's not gonna work for
anybody else unless you're like way more famous than us.
Maybe yeah, maybe then it would work. It's kind of
hard to imagine it were famous than us doing.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
It, but I one more famous in the other plug.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I mean, but you know what I'm saying, like that
that trick not ever gonna work again. The Gangbang thing
never gonna work again. It's just like everybody's gonna be
kind of forced to get by on their own talents
and hotness.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah. No, it was like an arms raced to the
craziest story, and I feel like we reached we reached it,
and now it's like, but the funny thing is like
we weren't.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
We weren't actively thinking about that while we were doing it,
Like you weren't thinking, like, what is the craziest thing
I could say?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
You were just like this is something I did actually,
you know.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, it was interesting because it's like I talked about
gangangs and then afterwards it was like this whole wave
of people talking about a million sex stories on every
podcast ever. But it doesn't hit if it doesn't feel genuine.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, it's like it's.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Like, if you're not about that life, it's so obvious.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Everybody is so much more numb to the crazy stuff,
Whereas when you were telling that gang bang story, people
hadn't got into the mentality of thinking, oh, she's just
saying that to go viral, which is what you feel
now because people don't even have to go on podcasts,
they just fake it. They stick a mic in their face,
and they just like, we could be doing that right now.
You guys could leave and I could pretend that I
was talking to somebody and I could tell crazy stories
(16:30):
and we can make a real out of it. It
would work. But at that era when you were doing that,
nobody was thinking like, nah, she's full of shit. She
never did that.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
No, it's so crazy to think about, like I wouldn't
have us take credit, but to think about, like how
we like, you know, we like change the trajectory of
like OnlyFans marketing for a lot of people for like
probably forever.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Some might say you killed it. Yeah, that'll never be
the same.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You'll never say desjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay. It's like these eras take place and then they
go away, and then there becomes a new meta. Yeah
it is the new meta. I don't know, but it's like, Okay,
if it's like only fans of girls just need skills,
If you became like unbelievably good at Fortnite, I'm not
even unbelievably good, but just played day and day out,
you were just part of that scene, then all these
Fortnite kids are probably gonna at some point start paying
(17:15):
attention to you in.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Some way sort anything else I can do Fortnite doesn't
tell them you can do splits about doing Fortnite splits?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, can you do the splits?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Of course, that's why I'm funny splits.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
No, I can't do a split. Did I even need
to say that? I don't know, But like, hobbies are
hard to come by, Like.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Really, I love hobbies.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I love what kind of hobbies do you have?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I feel like right now it's going to.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Be something you did like two times.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I like to explore different subcultures, like I hung out
of juggles it became a juggler for a day.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I became a fury tourist. You're not a real Juggalo.
If you were a real Juggalo, then yes, the Juggalo
community would probably rally around I did.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I did. I went on stage, and you know how
like showcase in your buttthole is a sign of respect.
I shoved the rubber duck up my ass for the Juggalo.
So I became a real juggle bloop or what spit
not juffalos. Juffalo's are fake Juggalos. I became like an inaugurated.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Jun f Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Juffalo fake Jeffalo gang right there. Jeffalo is such a
fun words.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
To the rubber chicken up your ass and then what
you just sh it out?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I didn't ship it out. I was actually clean.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You left it there?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
No, no, no, I took it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That's cool that you're clean. But how did you get
it out as you walk?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I like love anal a lot. Sorry, I was just
I just thought about it. I just got excited.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Listen me too. One day I'm gonna do it again.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
You know, I have like less than twenty mainstream scenes
like in general. No, I mean, I like I have
so much only fans independent content, but like I feel like,
you know, same thing, Like you reach a ceiling and
it's like anal unless you're just gonna go super insane
hard tour and I'm kind of like now, I just
want like beautiful like Vixen, like high production like James
Bond porn, Like that's what I want. Do you like
to do all the acting and all that? I love that.
(18:55):
I feel like I like feeling like a star. Yeah,
I feel like I like TV and getting into like
entertain like that.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
How do you not get stressed about being on set
doing anal.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I starve, I get a colonic. I do everything in
my power and I love anal like I feel like
when I like when I have Like when I did
my first air tight, I felt like that was like
the equivalent of like of like running a marathon or
like yeah, having ice bath, like I'm better than you,
like but in all of you, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Like wow, yeah, maybe that's the next thing. Yeah, air
tight with a thousand dudes.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That's crazy. Well, I think Lily Phillips just did a
fifty guy fan gangbang and that was anal.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, the new episode.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
But it's like, how many more spin offs of ganggans
do we need? Like now be a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, it's all going to be too confused.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But the beauty of the beauty of a gang bang
is like, you know you do it, and like the
juxtaposition is that you're such a beautiful, hot girl, like
how could you do such a thing? But then if
you do like so many gang bangs, it's like then.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You're just you're just just a regular gang You're.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Just a gang bang girl, which I respect. I love
a fellow gang bang girl, right, I I want a
gang bame with them.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
You've done so many cool things, so many scenes, Like
what do you think could excite you? Like, what offer
could you get to do something that would make you excited?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
At this point, I think it's pretty clear there's nothing right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I feel like now it's just chasing new experiences. Like
if I could do like a Vixen style showcase that
was like James Bond fiend where I'm like jumping out
of a helicopter and then I like have like a
like a combat like like John Wick, like like little
fight moment like I and then it ends of atal,
like hell.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
This is just like self glorification because the fans don't
care about this, don't care about anything. Fans don't care
about the theatrical fan like industry ship.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Like last year, I feel I always hired a videographer
for all my porn, and then I realized, like the
best performing shit is just like normal amateur like getting
sucked in a car by a stranger.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
See I hear that that, like the bad filming is
better than good filming.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Relatable is what they want.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Well, it only works when you're established already. If you're
like a shitty content creator making shitty content, you're just like,
but if it's like a home video of like Lenna
sucking your dick in the car, Like, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
But there's a level of bad filming that I think
people are just not going to be interested in. But
then there's like good bad filming.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
No, I've i on Twitter, I've seen a lot of
bad porn and I'm like, where where do we jack off?
One of the best scenes is one of the worst things.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Sure, Like I had that realization years ago with the
bike thing and realizing that like a crazy trick filmed
with an iPhone is more likely to go viral than
a crazy trick film with a bunch of cinematic cameras
because it just the iPhone angle looks like somebodyho was
just walking down the street and just saw a guy
jumping down a twenty stair. That just appeals to them more.
It feels more raw. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I used to hate like taking iPhone pictures, and now
I'm like getting into it. I'm very scared of how
I look at an iPhone. Why I think I look
way better on a camera. My phone photos are so
good now. No, No, I'm a little ugo and like on
the iPhone, I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
A rather than not use real film or real like
camera people. For like our No Jumper, we have this
like on a FaceTime like why not just use the
fucking iPhone and like build the set so that it's
easy to take the iPhone picture because I feel like
that's kind of what people want to see anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, I don't want the BTS. I feel like the
BTS is way better than the picture anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The problem is is like the more port you do,
the more you want a film good. Because to me,
especially when I'm self filming, it's like you really you
got one angle only and it kind of sucks. And
there's like a lot of sex positions that you could
film that you could do if you had a real filmer,
and then you basically should not even bother to do
if you're filming it yourself.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I get frustrated with like the fact that fans
are like don't really care about the craft as much
as I do. Like for me, like when I signed
with vix and I hung out of Adriana Checchi for
like a day and she like told me about all
of the things that like, you know, all the positions,
all the posing, all the dirty talk. Like whenever I
like I'm in my makeup chair, I write down all
my dirty talk, like in like my like notes app
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just and repeat it the whole time. And then I
feel like when I'm like on set, like everyone's like, cool,
you did it, and I'm like, but that was my life.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like like I was treating this as an NFL,
like fucking football game. That's the right sport, right NFL, Yes,
that's football.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yes, Yeah, that's cool that you are like practicing your
improval lines in advance.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But yeah, I think like dirty talk is such a
scary thing, like even in regular life.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Are you a dirty talker? Is she a dirty talk girl?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
In real life?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Rarely?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
I feel like camming helped me talk more, be more,
a little more vocal when we would have sex because
I had to talk so much on camera. But it's
it's like you feel like you're taking such a big
risk every time you say something.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I can be unleashed. Like if I'm like really into it,
I will say something absurd. I've heard you say a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Of them, but it's kind of like when you're saying
something when you're doing porn, you want it to be
this like bold declarative statement. You don't want to be
like kind of meandering through your sentence or whatever. You
want to just say something that's like big and simple
and easy to understand, because the most awkward thing is
when you're shooting porn and you say something and the
girl takes the dick out of her mouth and she's like,
what would you say? Like that is such a vibe
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killer that it's immediately like okay, no, like we got
to redo that because like you can't. You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's so awkward when you aren't doing porn and then
you try to do a trick shot and it just flops,
you know, Like it's like you just try to do
like a cool fucking move, like a cool blowjob or
a cool like writing move, and the guy just stares
at you, like.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You go to spit on the deck and he just
lands right on the floor.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, yeah, you like it's like flop city. I'm so sorry. No.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I have the same realization with like saying stuff on
stage at concerts and ship is that you have to
keep it really fucking simple. And then when you think
about it, like most artists that you see performing they
kind of just say, are the same ship that everybody
else says, who are you guys? Happy to be here?
Who makes some noise? I want to hear this side
of the crowd makes some noise of this side of
the crowd makes noise like like all that shit like
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as it seems so unbelievably cliche, but it's because like
just talking like a normal person on stage doesn't really work.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, remember the baby like he was like, hey, who's
not fucking good?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
He's an example of that. Yeah, yeah, I don't give
a fuck. Y'all got aids? Goodbye, Mike, throw it on
the ground. Yeah, ruined his career for a while.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, yeah, is he back? I don't know. Yeah, you know,
I've never really fucked celebrities. I've always fucking normies. Never
wants celebrities. Okay, okay, okay, but like I like, I've
never fucked like a brad pit like yeasy, guy. I
don't know. I feel like, am I missing out? I
(25:11):
don't know what like that sauces from what I've heard.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
No, I feel like no one's gotten like a great
ley from a celeb.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So much about getting tested. I feel like all these
celebs have major aids.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I feel like they would get tested for you. I
just don't think that you're gonna have a good time
because you've already been with like professional male porn star.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I don't look like the epussy. I love sucking a
regular guy. I don't need like a porn star dick.
But if a guy is open to being trained.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I will.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I will put you to the workshop.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Are you like the place in your sex life where
you just want to be like worshiped the whole time?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I always want to be worshiped. Excuse me, but I think,
like right now, I think I would love to make love.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
How would you feel if you like one our Drake's
house and he gave you like a solid eight minutes
and it was fine, it would be cool, and then
he just dipped and went back to recording afterwards, and.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It'd be a cool candidate spreience for you. That's like,
that would be like my signifier, like, yes, you're a
hot girl.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Okay, but you also have to not talk about it.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
But I will still talk about it to my friends
and my deep deep colleagues.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm saying that it's fine, you know, if you just
like immediately do an Instagram reel about it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I'm not gonna be like her own validation.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, but I've totally had nights where I'm okay, actually
I have fucked a few celebs, ay, but I didn't
count because it was still so lame and so stupid
that I no one has ever rocked my world as
a celeb.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I girls tell me that they were gonna fuck some
celebrity and that their boyfriend was just cool with it,
like porn star girls, And that's just like so shocked
to me. I understand the logic of like, Okay, I'm
gonna let you shoot with this porn star guys that
you can make money, but the idea that you're just
gonna like spend your Tuesday afternoon going to fuck a
famous person just because it doesn't really amount really, I
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feel a guy accept that. How does your boyfriend accept
all this shit?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I well, he's alloted to fuck girls. I mean, like,
wouldn't it be crazy if I was like, hey, he
says you don't do porn, you can't fuck girls, Like
you'd be like what the fuck? Like you fuck guys
all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I guess for your world the.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Other And also, we were swingers before porn, like we
were open relationshipping it up before, so I feel like
for him, it's like, okay, if you casually want to
fuck someone and you can okay.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Cards on the table. Though it's one thing for you
to fuck someone, it's another thing for you to spend
your birthday in a foreign land fucking random people.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Did not fuck a random person. I fucked one dude
member day, but I just don't.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Care how that's like like, and I realized this is
the same shit that people say to me all the time.
It's like, how could you ever be okay with your
girl ever being with another guy? That's one thing spending
your birthday and Thailand getting banged out by some dude
is another thing.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I was in Dubai.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You ate a cream a camel turd?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
No? No, but I did run a camel and it
was really cute. Yeah. Yeah, Well we're open. We're polyamorous,
but like polyamorous as in like we're able to like
date utter people, not just like open as in like
be like fuck utter people, but like I like dating,
like I like romance and yearning. But I did go
to Bangkok to get to bang some cop, but that
(28:01):
wasn't on my birthday. That was a few days after.
So it's fine, that's okay, it's just for me.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
If I'm going to be in a relationship, it's like, well,
I feel like we should probably hang out on your birthday, okay?
Or that.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, Like I feel like when I'm in love with someone,
I'm giving so much of myself to that person I
can't imagine giving any more to anyone else. Like how
do you balance that? Like do you feel how are
you able to compartmentalize? Do not confuse the stories of
like was it this guy who told me?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Or this guy? No? I mean I like I have.
I feel like every person I date is so different
from one another day. I feel like different experiences in
my life. Like I don't like compare my best friends,
so I don't really compare lovers. Okay, yes, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Mean Also it's like, yeah, he's allowed to fuck girls,
but let's be real, Like it's gonna take a lot
of work to fuck as many partners as your friend.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
A competition Adam twenty two.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But why wouldn't it be a competition everything else doing it? It
would be That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Do you make it a contest?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I would not make it a contest. She's looking like
a dude. Every orange couch it's like not a compact.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I would do it just to piss you off. I
would be trying to fuck girls to make you mad.
Why I'd be picking the girls that would make you
the most mad. Wow, you fok.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Four hundred girls in the last eight years.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I have looked four guys. Yeah, she needs to catch up. Honestly,
I haven't want to catching up guys apparently, And I
will help you any way you like. She'll bring me to.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
A ganggagmon who all kinds of games will supportive friend me. Yeah,
you're a gang man girl, know something?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Are not gang bangs? There some suck I like even numbers.
I don't do three sons. Okay, except for this one.
Except for this one. She doesn't want to be here. Guys, No,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
We are on a timeframet, so maybe we should just
use that as a segue.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
No, this feels so incestual. You guys are like my parents.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You don't mean that you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Like are like my pops.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
The way I act towards my family members is absolutely
completely different than the way I toar Zero.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I have been sexualizing you by just staring at your
tits the whole time.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I haven't you staring at your tits? We are friends,
but I also want to bang bangeroni pepperoni.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Why wait?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Shall we Are you bricked?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Let's grab a Snickers
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