Episode 80 WrestleMania 41 Night 1 Review

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Every legendary story has heroes.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
And villains.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
In this game, it could be hard to tell which
is which.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I think the fans can expect the unpredictable.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
You think by now you'd know the whole story.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is just the beginning. All the history.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
You've done, sucking special, all.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
The legends, This time right here, it's the realist it's
ever been.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
Look around, we're everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
The growth of professional wrestling.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
The institution is stunning.

Speaker 6 (01:30):
Whatever you say, Austin, that's the belts. You brought the belts,
the power of WrestleMania.

Speaker 7 (01:38):
Magical time for the ww right now, yes, get them
in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Vegas is about to find out how real this can get.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
All are off there. It's gonna get nasty.

Speaker 8 (02:04):
And the stakes quite simply can't get any higher.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
You know what I like about legendary stories.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Sometimes they're true.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
This is mine.

Speaker 8 (02:25):
Triple threat man, talk about a big fight.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
So tonight, who's it gonna be?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
This is what's your dame?

Speaker 5 (02:32):
For heroes.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Or killains? Oh Gas, no breaks here we go see
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Speaker 8 (02:53):
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Speaker 4 (04:37):
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Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, turnlin vall ages.
Welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
and we are going to cover WrestleMania post show. We're

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gonna touch lightly on the Hall of Fame, We're gonna
touch a little bit on NXT stand Deliver, but we
are going to dig into the results of WrestleMania Night one,
in Night two and we are going to chat it
up about the raw after Mania. Why because it is
way more interesting than what actually happened at WrestleMania. So

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with that said, let me bring them on out the
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Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah? I I did see that there were shirts at
the convention center for sale there said finally returned to
Las Vegas, And my favorite comment on that was the
funk he did.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
Notable in his absence.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
No, yeah, exactly all right. I saved the I saved
the best theme for last Man.

Speaker 12 (06:54):
Here we go.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
Oh hey, hey, it might have been telling you.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
It's just me. Okay, dang, it's just me.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Dang chuck me.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Oh, I'm like, dang this down lot of number knock.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Of Dawn like man I did.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Hey, it's on me now, it's.

Speaker 8 (07:23):
Hey, I'm gonna get him all.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'm gonna get him all.

Speaker 8 (07:30):
I'm jet.

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Speaker 8 (07:55):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Of course, at least once.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's what he's all about.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Man, I mean, nobody don't have eating.

Speaker 7 (08:02):
My intro was it was the raw after somebody had
a sign and said, I just yeaated.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Just yet.

Speaker 7 (08:12):
It was I can't remember. It was one one of
the nights wrestleman or it was the raw after I
can't remember which, but somebody on the.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
Hardcamp side pretty prominently had a sign and just said
I just yeated.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, they always talk about it on commentary, how they're
gonna yeat all over everybody. It's like, oh, yeah, I
was yeating before I got here.

Speaker 7 (08:30):
Yeah, it's really weird.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, it is weird. That is basically a.

Speaker 9 (08:37):
Joke, and it gives Michael called the opportunity to prove
that he is the most Caucasian human being that has.

Speaker 7 (08:44):
Ever lived, exactly Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
But he doesn't deal with it.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
But they're like, Michael, you don't look like enough of
a dor Let's try something new.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, they always they always find a way to make
Michael Cole look even worse more of a All right,
did you guys catch the entire Hall of Fame at all?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
I actually did watch that whole damn thing live because
for some reason, Yeah, I watched it live, like I
was up the entire four and a half fucking hours
that Friday because I did not have to well, mostly
because one I did not have. It was in the
middle of my three day weekend, so I didn't have

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to work the next day, and I was already up
at midnight, so I went to bed and I put
it on because I was like, I want to at
least see Lex Luger's part, and I did want to
see his, And then for some reason I just wound
up being into bed up for the next fucking four
and a half hours watching that ship.

Speaker 11 (10:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (10:01):
I saw the clip of Alex Luger standing at the
beginning of the speech, and that's.

Speaker 11 (10:08):
All I saw.

Speaker 7 (10:09):
And boy, am I glad that's all I saw. I
heard trips. He talked longer than any match he ever had.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
And he's been in an Irish speech was so fucking long, Jesus,
it was over an hour.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
You need to take Tiffany and then beautiful daughters. Yeah,
I don't need to hear that for an hour.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
And it wasn't like everyone think, yeah, I'll say the
thing about his is It wasn't like it was an
hour from you know, the start of his whole segment. No,
literally just his speech from the moment he got on
stage and got on the mic. So when he finally
shut the hell up and left, it was over an hour.

Speaker 11 (10:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
I think I saw that he talked for like an
hour and six minutes or something. In his longest match
ever was an hour and three minutes.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's funny. Yeah, It's like, who's gonna tell him to like, hey, trips,
you gotta you gotta wrap it up. Yeah right, that's
like us as like at a business, at like a
meeting at my work, if we're having a plant meeting,
my guys, the supervisor just talking forever and ever. It's like,
you know, I'm not gonna tell him to fucking wrap
it up. But if I say something, you know, we're
on the clock, you know. But I yeah, I watched

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the little promo videos, which I thought was cool. I
forget a theme song they played for his promo. It
was pretty good though, Uh yeah, he just spent too
much time thinking way too many people.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Still.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
The highlight of it who ended.

Speaker 9 (11:40):
Up inducting the natural disasters because they because they made
a big deal about everybody else's uh who was inducting
them and didn't say was it just Typhoon's kid?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
That's why I thought it was. It was like just
you know, direct family. That's how I figured it was
like Michelle mccool's speech. I almost fell asleep, I guess
I I almost felt I was like, oh my god,
this is early too. But yeah, after the Hall of Fame,
did anybody catch any of n XT Stand and Deliver anyway?

(12:19):
I actually caught. I actually caught it. I watched it.
It was pretty good.

Speaker 13 (12:25):
I would go to the women's championship match, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
if there's anything to go back, go back and watch
like the Ricky Saints, you know, wrestle ethan Page for
the North American title, Hank and Tank what a tag
team name Hank and Tank defeated.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Uh yeah, so that that was a pretty good match.
Go back and watch that. Uh yeah, the women's Fatal
four away for the NXT Championship. You know guys who
really enjoyed that match was Booker T. If you may, Booker,

(13:05):
Let's see it's.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Oh yeah, Booker T m HM.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
And likes, uh Stephanie's finisher pretty pretty pretty much, and we've.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
Seen it's a cool move and looks great. I don't
know that it warrants that type of turning oneself into
a frog.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh well, how does it warn't? Maybe this one?

Speaker 11 (13:38):
Baby, Yeah, that's a little much.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean, no, no, Doyle, this this is a little much.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Here we go, baby, Yes, yeah, he let that one marinate.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I want to let everybody know I did not alter
those at all. I was dying because I was like,
Damn Bookert commentary making me fucking laugh. That's what made
I feel like. That's what drew my attention more to
the fucking TV. See what he was fucking doing that over.
But that's dying.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
He was doing it over somebody who deserved it, Yeah,
opposed to somebody else in the threat. That's the same thing.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
And he's still less annoying than Pat Maga.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
The main event for the NXC title with Trick Williams,
Javon Evans, and oba Uh. This dude, this guy's fucking huge.
This guy's three pounds. He's a big boy, six foot six.
So hopefully this man gets built well and we see

(15:16):
him on the main roster soon. But he's a big
sum bitch.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Oh yeah, Oba femmy. He's got all the main roster
star power. He can Yeah, he can go in the ring.
He's good on the mic. He clearly has the presence
built like a brick shit house.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, it's interest music, like it's just it just it
goes well.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Like, Yeah, he's built me. I kind of don't like
the fact that he kind of walks to the beat
of it, almost like he's kind of strutting. I kind
of wish he would be a little bit more serious
about when he walks and just be more you know,
stone faced with it. But that's a minor, minor knit, right.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
That's something that like the as a character you can develop,
I guess. But yeah, straight to the guy.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
That's the one match I did not see on this
pl though by that point I left went to go
to the gym because I wanted to stick around to
at least see the women's match, and every match on
that show on that card that I saw cooked like
the tag team match was probably the best tag team
match of the entire weekend between NXT and both nights

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of WrestleMania. That tag title match was a great match.
The Women's Triple Threat cooked hell every Triple Threat. This
weekend cooked. Honestly, the one thing you can say about
this weekend. This was the weekend of the Triple Threat matches, well.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Multi van matches in general. I mean, the farway for
the IC title was pretty good too, yea.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Even the ladder match for the women's uh North American
title was pretty damn good as well.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Right, just getting everybody on that card today, you know,
or for that payday. H Yeah, all right, let's uh,
let's get this ball rolling. We got a lot of
shit to.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Cover, and.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Let's get right into Night one day. Do you want
to you wanna take over for Night one?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yep, yep, we can take over Night one within alleged
and I stress the word alleged attendance of what did
they say, sixty something thousand Night one sixty one? Yeah,
I'm seeing reported numbers of like fifty seven thousands.

Speaker 9 (17:40):
So well, what they're doing is they're counting all the
you know, production assistance and the people selling popcorn and
probably yeah, and I mean there's gonna be hundreds, if
not thousands, of the people at the at the stadium bathrooms.
They count if you were if you were there with
a pulse counted yet he counted pregnantities as two people.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Sixty one thousand people at the at the Allegiance Stadium,
fifty seven thousand pay for tickets, so somewhere in the middle.
But either way, Night one kicked off with Gunter defending
his World Heavyweight Championship against main event Jay Usso, which

(18:27):
saw suit my surprise, gun through tap the fuck out.

Speaker 9 (18:35):
Yeah that was I mean, I think we all picked
Jay to win, right, I don't know that anybody picked
gun through the tap.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
And just how fast he tap too was kind of
crazy to me.

Speaker 9 (18:48):
I thought they would at least do the you know,
he almost gets to the ropes and then Jay Paulson'm
back and then he almost gets.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
To the ropes, you know something.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yep, that was my one break with the match.

Speaker 7 (19:00):
As boom, He's tap, you know, seemed very ungunter.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Like, Yeah, that was my one gripe with the match.
Like overall, I thought it was a really good match.
I thought it was great storytelling as far as Gunter
being dominant, but still couldn't completely dominate j Uso because
Jay had pretty much switched up his game, even playing
a little bit with the audience and the fact that
you know, Jay only has four moves. He can't do this,

(19:25):
and you saw j pulling out all kinds of moves
in this match that he normally doesn't do. Yeah, And
I was.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
Glad it didn't didn't turn into a chop versus.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Super chopping superkick. Yeah, because I think I mentioned that.
You know, whoever bet the over on Jay's superkicks was
mad as a motherfucker because he only did two in
the whole match. Yeah, Whereas Gunter was kind of more
reduced to his usual repertoire of moves where you know,
anytime Jay got some offense, go to hit him with

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a chop. You know, his typical t Rex dropkick is
power chopped.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
When he was sitting on the top rope and he
chopped him and he fell to the floor, that was pretty.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, that one was pretty gnarly. But overall, the magic
exceeded my expectations. Again, my only gripe with it is
that when he put him in the sleep or gun
the tap too fast.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
It wouldn't bother me. If after he hit the what
did he hit two or three?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (20:23):
Just pinned him there, I would have that would have
been a fine. And then I thought, and and a
prolonged sequence of him.

Speaker 7 (20:31):
Uh, you know, because he's not like a submission expert
or anything.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Immediately you know, like that, but you know some repertory.

Speaker 9 (20:44):
Yeah, exactly, Like so that's why it's so surprising that
he tapped out so quickly.

Speaker 11 (20:48):
To that.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, I think that would have built that would have
built up the finish a little bit more if he'd
have really sensed it in and had gone through their
struggling and you could.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
Have their passes out in the sleeper, you know, something.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Like maybe if you want to protect gun Through, like
he passes out. But I would have been okay with
gun Through tapping if they'd have drawn it out a
little bit more, like you said, going through the struggle,
try to get to the ropes, and Jay is just
so he putting everything he has into it. You know,
you could they play up the emotion of it all,
like Jay has just look on the face like you know,
I'm getting you back for what you did to my brother,
the way you put my brother's move, feel what it

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feels like, and he's just wrenching on him until gun
Through finally taps. I think that would have really, you know,
put a nice bow on this match or what was
otherwise a really good match, but.

Speaker 9 (21:33):
You knew we were in trouble when, uh, for the
for the weekend, when during the entrance, when there's you know,
all the announcers are yeting and whatever, do you see
one of the Spanish announcers knocked the other one's headphones off.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
Yeah, and then when Jay and then when they were
introducing Jay, it said challengers with an S.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
That challenger No, I didn't stand in for a bag
Field weekend and boy were waiting right.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Not only was I surprised that like Jay got the win,
he got to win submission and the fact that they
used Jay and Good to open the show like main event,
Jay USO is still not main event.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
I mean yeah, I mean, if you're not gonna put
you on last, going on first is often they say
the second best bottle of the card.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I never would expect such a huge win for somebody
like Jay would be you know, in the opening card.

Speaker 11 (22:37):
Like, but.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
This is definitely different than what we're used to. This
this WrestleMania felt very different. And this is besides last year.
This is like the full fledged storylines played out like
for Triple H. I mean, this is Triple h's you know, Era,
we're not longer getting vinced stuff. Maybe we're just so

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used to and catered by what we expect from you know. Oh,
Vince would never allow this. Vince would never allow another
wrestler from another company on the biggest, grandest stage of
them all.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Never.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah. So I'm shocked by a lot of results on
this card in general, but uh, the way that ended, Yeah,
very shocked.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, I mean I would have preferred for me if
it had Maine have been at Night one. But I
understand why, given the level of star power that they
had obviously in the Triple Threat match. But even then,
and I mean that match delivered. It is absolutely if
they went out and laid a fucking egg. You know,
I think there's a there's a legitimate ripe there, like
why why not put uh one of one of a

(23:50):
couple matches.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
And that's a lot instead?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
But uh, yeah, absolutely it did obviously an absence of that, though,
I probably would have at least made it the penultimate match,
just so that you know, the just so the the
fact that you won the World Rumble and the fact

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that this is a World Tide match can still carry
some weight. I still feel like putting it on at
the very beginning to kick offf WRESTLEMANI yes, you get
the hype moment of obviously kicking off WrestleMania with jay
USO's entrance and the title win, but I still feel
like it kind of diminished both the Royal Rumble win
and the World Heavyweight Championship the fact that it started WrestleMania.

(24:39):
I would have made it the second to last match
of Night one, but that's neither here nor there. So
obviously our champion made event so and I did. I
did get a little misty id when Jimmy uh met
him in the ring celebrate. That was a beautif football

(25:02):
absolutely second match h War Raiders Eric and Ivar defending
their World Tag Team Championship against the New Day Goffi
and Xavier. Why the fuck this match was on WrestleMania,
I don't know, because there was nothing about this There

(25:25):
was nothing about this match that could not have happened
all Raw. It's like we needed a title work, we
needed a tag title match, and they decided for this one.
Kofee and Xavier cheated, got to win. They're the new
World Tag Team Champions. Cool, but as a match there
was really nothing about this match that said WrestleMania. In

(25:48):
my opinion.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Is this would have been cool on just Monday Night Raw.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
Actually, uh, a lot of production errors. They're in one
I can't remember whose entrance, either New Days or the
war Raiders.

Speaker 9 (26:07):
They didn't went to a wide shot and you could
see people like, you know how like sometimes in a
late football game, like you know, the team the home team,
if the home team's driving and they fumble with you know,
in the thirty seconds left and the game is essentially over,
and you just see the people pouring out like that's
what was happening, Like like so many empty seats and

(26:29):
people actively walking away from this match.

Speaker 11 (26:32):
It's just like, whoa, it was a look, we got.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
A great idea to thrown to the wide.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
Shot of the crowd right then.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Hell and the second match is the early bathroom break match.
Yeah that's not a good signs not a good sign
at all.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
No, yeah, no, I mean it is just a video
game commercial. Really. That's why I was on pay per
view because because I keep on the Viking Raiders.

Speaker 9 (26:57):
The war Raiders, uh look like the guys from that
video and they can address them, and they looked like
they look like they got they didn't even place in
a cosplay contest, Like they looked ridiculous outfits.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, yeah I didn't. I didn't. I thought we were
watching How To Train Your Dragon with Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
It was bad. Yeah, and that's all. That's almost It
makes you seem makes you given that that was the
case and that's how they looked and all that, it
makes you feel like that this was a business decision
to put this match on the show compared to especially
when you compare it to what the SmackDown Tag Division

(27:42):
is doing and how they've been the ones cooking for
the last couple of months and how they're about to
have a freaking TLC match for their titles. Yeah, why
couldn't That wasn't Wrestle Media because some video game company
ponied up enough cash, We're gonna shoehorn this little bullshit
in here.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
And there's so much of that, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, it's definitely.

Speaker 9 (28:06):
Obviously it's been getting a little worse and a little worse,
but this one just seemed like a big isalation, Like
so much shit on the mat, not just the one
logo in the middle.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
There was like a dozen of them, and every fucking
Turnbuckle had a different logo on it.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
It's just like Jesus, if there if there's a running
theme for the if there's a theme for this WrestleMania
or something that's going to be part of this WrestleMania's legacy,
I think it's definitely gonna be This is the this
is the WrestleMania that that we're Wwe put money above
the show. Yes, this is a lot of a lot

(28:43):
of aspects of this felt like money decisions versus good
of the show decisions, from the ticketing prices to the
way they laid out all this extra stuff for the weekend.
So a lot of it just we're making money more, man,
we're setting records more.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (29:06):
Great, you just gave you just gave us a so
so WrestleMania. Like very good, very nice that you are
all stuff in your pockets. That's all well and good,
you know, but it's like, I don't want to hear
about that when you just gave me this dog shit
made effect. Yeah, I don't want to hear about how

(29:26):
many how many bonuses Triple.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
H is gonna be able to get this?

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, you know exactly.

Speaker 9 (29:32):
Yeah, did anyone watch the WrestleMania nine documentary, which I
have the recommended, was very like they make a big
point about like we wanted to make sure we always
had a twenty five dollar ticket, you know, and it
was like you couldn't get an obstructed view seat for
under two hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh my god, yeah you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
You probably couldn't park at that fucking stadium for twenty
five dollars.

Speaker 11 (29:56):
You know. It's just like.

Speaker 7 (29:59):
It's at a certain point it's gonna get where.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
It weren't like the floor seats for WrestleMania nine like
just four hundred something like that. Yeah, the most expensive.
I don't think there was a single seat that was
over one thousand dollars for the WrestleMania and nine.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
I don't think there was a seat over five hundred.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
And now you can't even get in the fucking building
for less than that.

Speaker 7 (30:23):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Inflation one thing. Sure, growth of the business, sure, I
mean the massive you know, growth of the event itself.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Sure, which took place in nineteen ninety three, the price
of a ticket was twenty five dollars. Wow, that's just
a common Google knowledge, I guess.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
In the documentary, like the cheapest seats were twenty five dollars,
and they made us I forgot who it was. That
was somebody I guess logistics or whatever said acting made
the comment that they wanted to actively make a point
you have twenty five dollars tickets. No, it was it
was a point that they wanted to make that show

(31:06):
affordable to anyone.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Here's this, I had the screenshot. So if you wanted
to sit ringside ringside wrestmating nine two fifty dollars, that's
the most expensive ticket.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Where we sat like well, you know, like kind of
roughly like where we sat like you know, far back
and whatever, we would have been fifty bucks to twenty
five dollars. Oh my god, Oh my god, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I guess you think twice when you're paying that much
money now and then you're getting like The New Day
versus the war Raiders.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
Mm hmm right yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
So moving on. The next match was Jade Cargill versus Naomi,
which was a good match. Also the first single, first
ever single non title women's match without a gimmick in

(32:13):
WrestleMania history. Kind of wild that it took all the
way up to forty one, but again we mentioned that
in the pre show, but the match itself was a
really good match, like Naomi was storyline part aspects of
it aside. Naomi was a good opponent for j Cargill
to be pitted against that WrestleMania, because she has that

(32:34):
veteran experience and Naomi can work with anybody in the ring.
And she sold her ass off for Jay Cargill and
made her look like a million bucks while also not
completely diminishing herself, like she got her offense and she
showed her repertoire moves and the whole match looked good

(32:56):
and Jade hit that gnarly freaking power bomb. She powered
her up on her shoulders and then tossed her spun
around and thrilled ass. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Mostly agree with you.

Speaker 9 (33:11):
If they hadn't had Naomi cheat to win and they
had Jade win, which is what they did, I wish
it had maybe been a little shorter, a little more
Jade dominant.

Speaker 7 (33:22):
And yeah, that power bomb was sick. And she does
the moves well, it's to get in.

Speaker 9 (33:27):
From one move to the next move, that's her problem.
Everything still looks so deliberate, like she like it's not
second nature to her.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
Maybe it never will be.

Speaker 9 (33:37):
I don't know, but a lot of the really good
ones I could said it really good in the ring,
just it looks like they're not even thinking about it,
they're just doing it. And her it looks like she's
like saying, Okay, now I need to move five feet
to my left and wait for Naomi to grab my
left arm, and you know, like it looks like the

(33:59):
wheels are really slowly slow to turn for her. And
I hope she gets it, because I mean, nobody looks
like her. She looks great, unfortunately plagued by wardrobe map
functions throughout.

Speaker 7 (34:12):
The whole match.

Speaker 9 (34:13):
But it's just the she has a charisma and everything,
but it's just like to put in the air. She
does the moves, well, it's just getting from move one
to move two to move three.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
That I think is her problem.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Still, Like you were just saying, yeah, stringing it together
and making it feel like natural, a natural wrestling match
as opposed to practice where you're going like this the
next moment something like that. With time, Yeah, she.

Speaker 9 (34:39):
Caught Naomi coming off the top rope twice, but the
second time she just she like had the awkwardly. I
don't know if she was early or if Naomi was late,
or a little bit of both. But she stood there
like hunched over for what seemed like forever, waiting for
Naomi to come, you know, and it just like just

(35:00):
little things like that, and it's just a couple of
seconds here and there, really, you know, but it just
stands out, you know, especially, you know, especially when you've
got all these other matches that people aren't you know,
even even in the new day more rader match, like,

(35:20):
I didn't think anybody was having to think about what
they were doing.

Speaker 7 (35:23):
They were just doing it. You know.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
That is very true. That is true, very true. But
I will say to a certain say, in Jay's defense,
She's not the only one that I see that from.
There are a number of women on the roster where
you can see that at points in certain matches where
you can see them like going through the step by
step process of this. That may just be a limitation.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
I guess I shouldn't. I shouldn't specifically pick on Jays.
She's not the only person that I have this criticism of.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Sure, you're not wrong, Yeah, I think it's it may
just be a limitation of the women's a vision or
just some of the talent that's there where you know,
it doesn't maybe they don't quite have the same number
of years in it like some of the older vets
that can pull that stuff off seamlessly, like a Bailey
or a Becky or you know, there are few who

(36:16):
are who I see that are relatively young. It can
seem to do that seamlessly, maybe like Tiffany Stratton's probably
one Biaka can do it for her relatively few years
of experience.

Speaker 11 (36:32):
You know.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
I think Rox and Perez I think can do that.
But other than that, yeah, I think a lot of them.
J J does seem to stick out a little bit more.
Maybe it's because she's in such a prominent feature position.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
Yeah, that certainly could be a too m h.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
But and also I think it is partially her lack
of experience as well. I do hope, like you said,
with time, I think she'll get better at that and
learn how to thread the thin thread moments to get
her together a little bit better.

Speaker 9 (37:06):
I hope so, because I mean, like you figure, she
should she ought to be, or at least based purely
on how she looks ought to be in the world,
titles picture, right, But I can't picture her having a
decent enough match for me to believably think that she
could beat it, even EO, you know, even even being

(37:27):
as physically more imposing than EO with you know, I
wonder if it's just a matter of kind of changing
her style a little bit and maybe trying to make
her more of a like brawler type. I wonder if
that would, you know, kind of limiting the move set
doesn't have to be that fancy.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
Look at Gunter.

Speaker 9 (37:45):
He's just round and pound and he's you know, he
doesn't do anything super crazy.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
I don't know, I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
The fix is with her that could potentially help. I
think a lot of people look at her just and
see her physique and automatically assume power game, and that's
kind of what they've built her ass so she seemingly
has to pull off these power moves all the time.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Well, you know, I think of NAILI was a great
choice though, for especially for her first singles match at WrestleMania.
I was kind of hoping for like a bigger entrance,
kind of hoping for some snow from the ceiling. But
if we didn't get none.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
Of that we got a Jade's entrance is fucking cringey?

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Was that Jim Cantory from Weather Channel? I thought I
heard somebody mention that. I don't know if it really
was him or if it was just some random Vegas
reporter because I when I was watching, I thought they.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
What the fuck is?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah? I thought they had gone to commercials. So my
back was turned to the TV and I'm just hearing
somebody talking about whether. I'm like, Okay, this must be
a commercial, but alsoden I hear Jade's entrance, A storm
is coming, I'm like, wait, what the fuck? And I
look back and I see that bullshit that they had.
I'm like, oh, that was supposed to be part of her.
Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
I'm glad they switched up naomisance.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Isn't it Moose?

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah? Yeah that was.

Speaker 7 (39:14):
It wasn't working for a heel?

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Hell no?

Speaker 7 (39:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah? Still good match for her.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
I think she.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I think she did. Alright, uh Doyle, Now that you
point out some of those things with the way she wrestles,
I'm now I'm gonna be looking for it, and it's
gonna probably bother me ship out of me. Now, I
guess I don't. I don't look at her like that.
Just look at this big powerhouse girl and just has
this different style. Maybe it's the style that they had

(39:45):
over an a w and she's just not quite used
to it here.

Speaker 9 (39:48):
Whatever it is, like the specific move she did like
a tilted world backbreaker in Naomi and just like she's
setting up for it, just like way too early, if
that makes any sense, Like like she I think she
did an Irish whip and waited for but she's sitting
there like with her body contorted, waiting for the move

(40:10):
instead of like waiting until Naomi is like a step
away and then kind of doing it in one fluid motion.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
I don't know, and I hope I'm describing this.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Makes sense because it tells you that the move is coming.
Like she if she throws her into the rope and
then contorts herself like she's waiting to catch and nail me,
it looks awkward. Yeah, natural, you're throwing the person into
the rope and maybe like a normal wrestler with dow
me into the rope, let them come back and then
when they're close thing, yeah, grab them and put them

(40:43):
into the move so that naturally versus you're sitting there,
got to the side, like arm up here, left, arm
this way, right, arm down here, exactly this way. She
naturally runs into the position and now execute the move. Then,
yet it doesn't look nat she did the.

Speaker 7 (40:58):
Move very well, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I hate when people wait for moves and it's too obvious.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
It's a little too much of the sausage making process, right,
you know.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
You know who's done that recently, Austin Theory and Grayson
Waller have been doing it with chair shots. They bend
over way too early, and they like stand there and
wait and wait and wait and then get the chair shot.
And it's driving me nuts because they do it every
fucking time.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
But yeah, and they hit the chairs a lot, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
That's what happens when you can't crack somebody in the
dome no more. Back in the day, you needs to
be able to set up a headshot a lot better
because all you have to do is just turn your
back to the person, turn around, boom headshot. When you
when all chair shots have to be on the back,
I mean, if you're if somebody's supposed to deliver the
chair shot at support and time and say that person
who's delivering the shot is late. What are you left

(41:50):
to do? Oh my god, I'm struggling to get up.
Hang here, Oh I got hit. Like I think that's
the part of it. I think is just a problem
back chair shots period. There's only one real There's only
two ways you can take him, either hunched over or
standing up slightly hunched over. There's no way. It's hard

(42:13):
to make that look natural.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Speaking to somebody's not fucking natural. Let's talk about Jacob fat.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Jacob fa tou.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, let's talk about the Jacob and the next match.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
L A Knight. Yeah, in the US Championship match, which
saw La Knight lose again his United States Championship. That
motherfucker can't keep this damn title for ship. They are
so committed to keeping him champion, and then like they

(42:47):
put the bells on him and it's like they remember,
oh that's right, this shit didn't work. Get it off
the get it off of him?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Well, I mean thinking about he's held he's held in
multiple times already, and he's only he got it.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
He's a two time champion over Yeah, but he wanted
off Logan Paul lost it to shint Skat Knockingmora, won
it backt Knocking Moor, and now he's lost it to
Jacob Plottu.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
He racked up those accolades right now now he's but yeah,
you're absolutely right. Uh, this man cannot hold onto that
United States title. It is the soap that he cannot grasp.
He keeps strugging and fucking now. You know what though, like, uh,
I guess if we had to have one of the

(43:32):
two titles the mad Car titles swapping hands currently, I
think it would be the United States. I like the
Icy having like, uh, a longer, healthier run, you know,
after after going through. That's how I see the Icy
title having longer runs.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
But anyway, any either belt can have a long run
if they just put it on the right person. Like,
I don't think Jacob Patsu is gonna be dropping this
belt anytime soon. I don't agree, man, I.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Think, yeah, I think we all kind of saw this
happen in the squash of Jacob fa To, you know,
squashing you know, l A Knight here. But I'm happy
with the result as much as I like Ella Knight.
H'm so you know over Jacob fa To, Like this
man is going straight to the fucking top. Like, like
I said, let this man have a long title run

(44:27):
with this, with this United States Championship. Let him bring
back the inaugural Open Challenge match. Every week, just see
him squashing motherfuckers. That's what I want to see. I
want to see him out there running his mouth. Who's next?

Speaker 4 (44:40):
You know this?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Every week somebody else comes out and just gets fucking squashed.
Do it, don't care who. You don't need the bloodline involved.
You don't need Solo there. You don't need you know,
people keep getting injured anyway from the blood line, but
we don't. You don't even need him involved. This is
something he can do on his own, on his own.

Speaker 7 (45:01):
He really speaking of Solo. Jacob I too really fucking
stole his lunch. Huh right, Like this was supposed to
be what Solo was gonna be.

Speaker 9 (45:09):
Yeah yeah, but jacob I two is just I mean,
this match over delivered, uh in spades.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
I thought.

Speaker 7 (45:19):
I can't remember enjoying an l A night match as
much as I enjoyed this one.

Speaker 11 (45:23):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (45:23):
He hit all his jump up try You know, I've
off complained about his uh inability to hit those moves
where he's jumping up to the top rope, but I
think he did it two or three times and nailed
it each time.

Speaker 7 (45:36):
Uh that one, uh moon Salt into the.

Speaker 9 (45:41):
Yeah, well, I mean they didn't they, as Michaels always say,
didn't get all of it.

Speaker 7 (45:46):
But uh, I think the camera work actually covered it
up well enough.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I was just about to say, yeah, the camera saved
that one because I was seeing it from other angles in.

Speaker 7 (45:55):
And the crowd popped.

Speaker 9 (45:56):
So, I mean live it must have looked pretty good, right,
But uh, yeah, I mean Jacob undeniable.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
I mean it's kind of it's not in a different
way than Jay, but it's just like you have to.

Speaker 9 (46:09):
You can't not put this title on him at this time,
like right now, because it's just undeniable.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
I don't know how they're gonna keep.

Speaker 9 (46:17):
Him as a fucking heel if that's what they're gonna do.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Uh, it's just the crowd really really wants to cheer
for him.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
The thing I don't think. I don't think they're gonna
keep him as a heel. He still has unfinished bloodline business.
It hasn't been it has been, you know, just touched
on briefly in the lead up to WrestleMania obviously dissension
between him and Solo, and now with uh Tomatonga injured

(46:48):
as well, the only thing that's left is really Solo
and Jacob and that's probably might be a good thing
because then it can just be them to one on
one one and sort out their differences and whatever it is.
That's how they're gonna get Jacob Fatu turning face is
he's eventually just gonna He's gonna be the one to

(47:10):
break away from Solo and Solo won't have anybody else
to help him beat down Uh Jacob Fasu week on,
week weekend and week out. And if they play it right,
that can work the Solo's advetage. Maybe that can help
build Solo back up as opposed.

Speaker 7 (47:28):
To huh would you describe him as so ini.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
In a manner of speaking. But yet if he can,
if he can sit there and go toe to toe
with Jacob by himself and be the one, you know,
really giving Jacob a run for the money by himself,
that can maybe help Solo look like what he was
when he first debuted, back when he was just a
silent guy with the thumb and heal and he had

(47:58):
that presence about him because that's really what kind of
hurts Solo more than anything. He started talking. Yeah, right,
when he was just quiet with the hoodie and the
thumb and laying motherfuckers down, everybody thought Solo was that dude.
Everybody thought he was a beast. Then he started talking,
and we realized that puberty never kicked in for his

(48:20):
vocal cords, and he ain't have the same aura like
Jay or Roman or the same mic skills as Jimmy.
And that's what it kind of fell apart for. But
if he can at least go back to being that
beast dude in the ring and he's out there, you know,
giving Solo that work, maybe even take the title off

(48:42):
of one time before Jacob went to back or something
like that, that can maybe help rehabilitate Solo a bit.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah, I mean yeah, pretty fucking right there. Clean with
all the movies. I'm watching La nk off the top
Rope and I'm watching Solo do the the.

Speaker 11 (49:00):
Moon sow.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
He does, like just clean. It's great. Yeah, you know,
what a great stage to do it on. Because we've
seen Lae Knight two especially fucking up on stuff time
after time. Again, We're just like, if you can't do it,
stop doing it. Well, you're lucky man, you did it here.

Speaker 10 (49:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (49:19):
I don't know when it became such a trend to
get a mask made for WrestleMania and come wear it
for ten seconds and then take it off at the beginning,
but Jacobatus Werewolf mask was pretty fucking cool, apparently, as
all of these masks are made by the guy that
was doing the Bray Wyatt masks.

Speaker 7 (49:40):
But I thought that Werewolf mask was kind of It's just.

Speaker 9 (49:42):
Like, if you're gonna do go, if you're gonna get
it made, keep it on a little longer at least,
you know, Like they come out with these masks and
they wear it for five seconds and they take it
off immediately.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
It's like what.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
I was thinking this. Yeah, I was thinking to.

Speaker 9 (50:00):
Tom does it, Ronny does It's?

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Who else?

Speaker 7 (50:05):
Cod Cody uh fex had a mask on top of
his mask.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Especially Cody Cody had like this fucking iron Man type
fucking we'll get to that later, fucking guy. Anyway, I
wanted to bring up, like, I know I should have
brought this up in the beginning, but did you guys
know that green Shirt guy got his own fucking entrance yep, no, fuck,
I'm because I'm rewatching it now and I'm just seeing

(50:34):
Green Shirt Guy and just like thinking about Hi. I'm like,
what the fuck, man, how much money do you have
to pay get your own fucking entrance? What the hell
with Wade whoever.

Speaker 11 (50:45):
He came out?

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Why the hell did he get his own entrance? But
not Trinidad Flag Guy?

Speaker 9 (50:50):
Really, well, he may have, He's just not as recognizable,
so nobody cared.

Speaker 7 (50:57):
Did Lad get his own entrance? I didn't know. I
don't think I saw Lad.

Speaker 11 (51:03):
That.

Speaker 9 (51:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (51:05):
I don't think I saw vladim Yeah. I think I
saw people with posting pictures with him though, so it
must have been there.

Speaker 9 (51:14):
Green guy has Green Shirt Guy is like a cousin
who's like a producer or something.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I heard rumor that he like a sort of Reddit
post that he's related to one of the referees.

Speaker 7 (51:26):
But okay, there, Yeah, I believe anything every on the internet,
So I don't know. Well, yeah, it's usually true.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I want to I want somebody to get an interview
with them. I think they'd be cool, Like, how's nobody
got their hands on this guy for fucking interview?

Speaker 4 (51:42):
I'm sure that I'm sure that somebody's got an interview
out there if you look hard enough. I just don't
think anybody cares enough about green Shirt guy in search.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
H documentary about Vladimir.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
I just wonder what the fuck green Shirt God does
for a living to attend all this shit, like even
if if he, even if he's related to somebody in
w w E, they're not breaking them off free tickets
every damn week, ain't no way, especially not no WrestleMania
or nothing. Maybe every once in a while, your your

(52:21):
cousin who's the referee, can hit you up with a ticket,
maybe in a small town venue or something like that,
but front row every week, Nah, he coming out pocket
for that, and travel expenses and all that. What could
she ask work from home job does he have?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Anyway?

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Where we were onto the next match, which was supposed
to have been but there ain't my Sterio versus El
Greene a medicano, but instead due to a last minute
injury legit injury to Ray mysterio apparently towards growing muscle
or injured or growing injury or some sort.

Speaker 7 (53:07):
That's gotta hurt. I don't care where are you're from.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Yeah, Ray, myss Stereo was replaced with Ray Phoenix and
in this match, which was relatively short but still good.
Oh this is so much.

Speaker 7 (53:24):
This is this is the most fun thing on the
whole week.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Yeah, it was a it was a great match, showed out.

Speaker 7 (53:32):
It was kind of devoid of.

Speaker 9 (53:33):
Fun outside of this, there really wasn't a whole There's
you know, there's some goofy backstage segment anything.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
There was nothing. This is the only fun.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah, true, dude, Oh my god, Like on Raw this week,
the video package of him like like like being Mexican,
Mexico's like greatest like hero or whatever, like the people
just the Ai. What you can do with AI?

Speaker 11 (54:01):
Now?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I was dying the video package that they showed just
him like digitally being put in like these famous events
and like this crowds like surrounding him like flags and like,
oh I love it. How about Ray Phoenix? Dude, this
guy just recently signed with w w E. Right, this
is the third match, third match? Yeah on the rest

(54:23):
Mania card. You know, I mean his brother got is it?
Are they really brothers? Him and Penta? Okay, Okay, so
you know, I don't know a lot too much about
these guys from a w I assume that's where they
came from, right.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Owner.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah, okay, but yeah, yeah, w W is just the
last stop.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Their latest stop. Yeah, I mean before this, they were
last n a W and there was a whole saga
with them getting out and ray Phoenix was supposed to
leave AW around the same time as Pensa and they
were both supposed to come to WWE together, but ray
Phoenix was injured, so Tony added more time onto his

(55:14):
contract and wouldn't let him leave around the same time.
And it was whole little pettiness and back and forth
and YadA YadA, and they eventually finally worked it out,
and the second he was out of AW he was
on the next thing, smoking the Connecticut.

Speaker 9 (55:28):
Well, you know, it worked out good, I think because
if they had gone at the same time, they would
have been a tag team, which would have been fun,
don't get me wrong, But for them, I think what
they probably want, at least for a little while, is
to be singles.

Speaker 7 (55:45):
I'm sure that they would have turned them into the
Lucha Brothers and stuck them into tag rags, which would
have been.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
That is drop. That was probably the original plan, was
to bring them into the Luca brothers. But yeah, this
did you know, wind up working to both of their benefits.

Speaker 7 (56:00):
Yeah, and I mean you can that's always there. You
can always do that, you know, whenever.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
And when they do it, it's gonna be a it's
gonna be a major thing. It's gonna get a huge pop.
They now have this one extra special thing that in
their bag they can pull out when they want to. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah, it's true because you know what, now you got
somebody like me who has not seen them on a
w so you know, these guys are new to me,
and the way they're being built separately, you know, I
kind of rather enjoy it. I enjoy Yeah, I enjoyed
this match, dude. I mean it wasn't just uh, the
whole gimmick of Medicano, it was the whole match was

(56:43):
really well, like you know, El Grande, he's a fucking
great wrestler, And for the spectacular and for Ray Phoenix
being put in at the last minute and being able
to you know, pull off a pretty damn good match,
I was. I honestly, I was like, I kinda like
this better than I probably would have gone with Ray Mysterio.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Oh definitely, yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I was I was pretty happy with the result.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I got m h. I think I said in the
pre show that, yeah, him and Ray would have had
to been some sort of shenanigans. There's something else involved
to make it really worthwhile. Yeah, because Ray is pretty
much a paint by numbers at this point in his career.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah, and there's there, you know, there's a lot of
spots in this that I you know, it's just fucking great.
Definitely a different style of wrestling we won't we don't
normally see from him. Uh, and you know what this
story Oh, I got a note going by my house. Wonderful.
The storyline isn't over like, it's just I love it.

(57:49):
How he didn't get unmasked like we all thought he
was going to the most obvious right, we thought he was,
but he fucking.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
He didn't get him. Yeah, he actually won over Ray.

Speaker 11 (58:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
I did not see that.

Speaker 14 (58:03):
Coming, right, Like the band hasn't been unmasked. He get
you know, he gets the win, and and the continues.
I mean it's like, hey, struck strike with the Irons, Like,
let's not unmasking me. I still people were still enjoying this,
and you know what, like the video package, I got
this week on Raw confirms it.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I still love this gimmick and I went to go
for a little bit longer.

Speaker 7 (58:28):
Like the entrance. His entrance is great with the mariatis.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
From the Gulf of America.

Speaker 9 (58:37):
Yeah, but then which they which they apparently changed last
week and then they tried to and they're like, oh, well,
when he was born, it was called the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 11 (58:46):
So that's.

Speaker 9 (58:48):
McAfee got a laugh out of me, even because they
were talking. When they were talking about he said the
same tattoo as Chad Gable and he was like, a
lot of people have that tattoo. Why just last week
I was thinking about getting what I was like, that's
the funniest thing.

Speaker 7 (59:02):
Fan mcaves said, good.

Speaker 9 (59:05):
Uh I did I did have During the pre show,
I pitched an idea where they put he puts the
metal in his mask and Ray went.

Speaker 7 (59:12):
To goes to sixty sixty nine him, WHOA, that's a
different match.

Speaker 9 (59:17):
W have to dark goes to six one nine him
and hurts his knee or whatever because of the metal.

Speaker 7 (59:23):
They pretty much ran that spot. When uh with a
kick or whatever and he hurt his foot. I was like,
I think that was my I think that's my spot.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
I think they just changed and it probably was had
it been Ray.

Speaker 7 (59:36):
Yeah, that's proud of myself that.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Yeah, it's a definitely a good match, you know, the
best of well, they made the best out of what
they had to deal with in that situation. So good match,
and yeah, we get to see how much longer El
Grande Americano, how long the storyline goes for. Moving on

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to the penultimate match of Night one, we had Can't
Fight twenty twenty five between Tiffany Stratton defending her women
WW Women's Championship against Charlotte Flair. What you want to
talk about, some brutality in this match, and I don't

(01:00:23):
mean that necessarily in a good way. This wasn't necessarily
some power bombing, slobbery knocker of just moves this at
a third. But Charlotte, as has been talked about online
pretty much since this match, she seemed to be working
Tiffany stiff as fuck, and it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:43):
Looked like she was sandbagging her a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Yeah. Yeah, I think I commented that like Tiffany Stratton
was selling her ass off for Charlotte Flair. But Charlotte
was not returned in the favor and every time I.

Speaker 7 (01:00:57):
Sold the shit out of that kind of that natural
select action off the top rope.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
That kind of botched and it didn't even hit. But
like so she got hit by a nuke, right, anything
to Tiffany. Tiffany was laid out like she got molly wopped.
Tiffy was trying to get a little bit of offense there.

Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
Yeah, Michael Cole couldn't even cover with her, like, oh,
I don't know if they got all.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
That one right, because she was just like dead anytime
Tiffany got Tiffany never seemed to be able to string
together more than like two moves of offense before Charlotte
shut it down. Yeah, it seemed to be this the
whole story of this match.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
Like this was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
It wasn't that it was a bad match. It just
did not leave a good taste in my mouth afterwards.

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
Yeah, it was just.

Speaker 9 (01:01:44):
Tiffany was beat up after her hand she had a
big nod on her foreheads.

Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
I was so unclear what was going on with her teeth,
her mouth was bleeding. She like wrestlers ought to look
like after a match.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Actually she she look like she lost. Yeah, and she
surprisingly won, but she like Charlotte beat the ship out
of her.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was uh, it was pretty
stiff man, and you could tell, uh, you know, just
the words that were being exchanged, the looks, the styles
vastly different. Like these women are here for a fucking
paycheck and they do not like each other. I will
say I I really liked uh Tiffy's entrance, she said,

(01:02:33):
you know back in NXT, like this is like the
dream entrance she wanted, like, uh, the Barbie.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
First Hey, yeah, but I get they had to set
up the boxes and yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Yeah, I mean I yeah, I liked it. I thought
it was pretty cool. And you know, I mean I'm
a Charlotte Flair fan, so I you know, she a
lot of heat during this fucking match, and I was
just I would have been content if Charlotte would have
won this match. I know a lot of people don't
like that, but I would have been content, you know,

(01:03:08):
just another championship title run for her. I was very surprised.
I definitely thought Charlotte was leaving with it, not just
because I'm a fucking mark.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
I just thought I think everybody thought Charlotte was gonna win. Yeah,
you know what I like to change, but yeah, almost
it almost makes you wonder if they changed their mind. Yeah,
it almost makes you wonder, like had was the original
plan for Charlotte to win and then they changed their
mind either a because fans turned on Charlotte and started

(01:03:45):
booing her. Yeah, it was the original plan for you know,
Charlotte to have this return babyface run into WrestleMania and
then emerge victorious champion. And then because fans turned on
her and she turned to heel, they decided to pivot
and and let Tiffy go over Or did they decide
against Charlotte winning because of how nasty this feud seemingly got.

(01:04:13):
I mean it kind of a stretched maybe to think
that they would punish somebody the caliber Charlotte Flair like that,
but I kind of can't rule it out given how
these feud is played out.

Speaker 9 (01:04:25):
H Well, I mean I'm not I'm I'm Charlotte Flair apologists,
but I mean, last she wasn't in Wrestlingia forty she
was injured. So but WrestleMania thirty nine, she put Rhea over,
you know, so it's not like, uh, you know, it's
not like she never puts anybody over.

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
Does.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Certainly I'm not and I'm not saying that Charlotte is
the type that you know doesn't do that, because like
you said, yes, she did very much put Rea Ripley
over in thirty nine. But it also it felt like
thirty nine.

Speaker 11 (01:05:06):
As a smoother transition, I think, a.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Much smoother transition, And it felt like Ria at thirty
nine was way more over and more primed for that
championship than Tiffy was now, even though Tiffy's already the champion.
Seems like Tiffy's Tiffy's popular. Was she as popular now

(01:05:31):
as Ria was going into thirty nine that I don't
necessarily know. It felt like all the momentum was behind
Ria going into thirty nine. This one I didn't feel
the same. I didn't feel like there was momentum behind
Tiffy or she's that you know, on that meteoric rise

(01:05:54):
or anything like that. It's like, she's here, she's popular,
she's won of the fans over, she's solidly your baby
face right now. But I don't know, man, I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Just watching this match with like no volume at all.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
You can just see the fucking the you that you
can't hear them calling the spots.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Yeah, that too, spots, But you can.

Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
You know, if you listen to match with headphones, you
can hear a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Yeah, I mean I did. Like my favorite comment I
think I mentioned it with Tiffany Stratton, was it's chippy
time because they were a chip tooth. Yeah, I could.
I was trying to look for where it happened. You know,
it could have been anywhere, because she looks like she
got hit in the face a couple of times.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Yeah, I said, I don't think it. I don't think
her teeth got chipped. I think it was some sort
of stain or something.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I thought it was a veneer that may have came off,
But yeah, you might be right to like, it might
have been a makeup smear, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Smear or something in a little bit. Maybe just seeing
the close up of the of it, it looks like
her tooth is still there, but like it's stayed like
freaking probably from Charlotte being stiff as hell, but it
probably kicked her dead in the fucking mouth. It got
some black off at the bottom of her boot.

Speaker 7 (01:07:22):
I like, yeah, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
It could be that it looks like like, Yeah, I
thought it might be a veneer that may have fallen
out or something. Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 9 (01:07:34):
She at the press conference like an hour later, and
she was fine. Like whatever it was, it was very
easy to fact or it wasn't much of anything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Yeah, it's getting some of that shoe leather on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
There, you know, still doesn't change the visual though. Unfortunately
that visual was forever out there of her looking like
a street fighter character on the tinue screen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
She won, though, so she's like, yeah, it may have
looked weird or terrible or whateverbody whooped your ass?

Speaker 9 (01:08:09):
Hey when when Tiffy beats Charlotte, Charlotte raise her hand
and we didn't get that, but Charlotte did give her
like the kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:08:18):
Like the nod kind of thing and she was walking away.
I kind of almost nailed that one.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Yeah, something tells me this is this feud is not
over with yet though, Like, I don't think Charlotte is
just gonna move on to the next babyface she doesn't like.
I still think it's possible that Charlotte may get that title.
I can see somewhere where there's a rematch or something,

(01:08:45):
or they play up, they play on the fact that
Tiffy looks so beat up afterwards, but managed the sneak
out of victory. And who knows, maybe Charlotte plays my
games with her and bates her into another match, you know,
plays on her motions or her ego or something. You know,
you didn't really win, you know you got lucky. Do

(01:09:07):
you really feel like a champion? Look at you? Look
at that picture of you on the screen. Does that
look like a champion? And somehow just suckers Tiffany and saying,
all right, fuck it, I'll give you a rematch. Let's
do it again. I'll beat you for good this time,
And then Charlotte kicks her ass and becomes champion, so
you may still get your wish Wayne of struggling to

(01:09:30):
make that belt sit on hips that she ain't got.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
The only woman to wear that thong loose. Huh dude,
I brought that joke up at the party and people
were fucking dying.

Speaker 14 (01:09:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Yeah, Like I had like nine people in my fucking
house for WrestleMania, and Night one was way more people
in the night too. But yeah, I think it was great.
I think hopefully next year I have just about the
same amount. I don't know what you guys, what your
WrestleMania set.

Speaker 11 (01:10:03):
Up was like.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Me in this me in my room watching TV, watching
it and then having my computer up chatting and discord.
I didn't do nothing special this year. I ain't going nowhere,
none of that. Next year in New Orleans, however, I'm
looking to go to New Orleans for WrestleMania. Whether I

(01:10:26):
actually attend the event, that depends on what the fuck
WW you want to charge for them damn tickets. Yeah,
but if nothing else, I want to be in New
Orleans for everything else surrounding WrestleMania.

Speaker 7 (01:10:39):
It's a cool town, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
And the fact I've never been to New Orleans before either,
so that double effect. AnyWho, Moving on to the main
event of Night one, triple threat match, Roman Reigns versus
Seth Rollins versus CM Punk, who was accompanied by Romans
wise Man Paul Hayman. Without it should not be surprising

(01:11:09):
to anyone that this was by far the best match
of the night, both in terms of match quality and
storytelling and all of.

Speaker 9 (01:11:19):
That everything showmanship. From the moment That's Rollin's music hit,
it cooked. His entrance was awesome. Roman's entrance was I mean,
Roman's entrance was pretty simple. But like that those boards
with all the with you know, Yokazuna.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
And the family.

Speaker 7 (01:11:38):
That ship was cool.

Speaker 9 (01:11:39):
Uh you know, uh living color called in living color,
which of course is something different.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:11:47):
That was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Yeah. Even the moment of Roman, like looking to the
side where normally Paul would be and no one was there. Oh,
little subtle moments.

Speaker 7 (01:11:57):
Like that, he didn't know what to do with the
old the falla.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Yeah, Roman, I mean not Roman, but Seth kind of
playing off two people's different entrances with the flamethrower, which
was previously done by the Rock and then takes off
that outfit. It has the all white underneath the light
shining on him like he's glowing. You can almost say
that was a play on Seawan's theme, but he still

(01:12:21):
find a way to make it his own. It was
across the board. Yeah, great interests. And then obviously once
the match started, they just started going to fucking town
on each other.

Speaker 8 (01:12:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
And then we get to the to the climax to
the final act. Everybody's laid out. You see Paul, they
cut the Paul him in and you're like, okay, that's
time for this part of the story. What's about to happen.
You see Paul Hammon go rabbit chair, head to the ring,

(01:12:56):
look at everybody, they would Punk is to his left,
Roman's to his right. He has slides that chair over
to see him Punk and everybody's like, oh shit, he
does rob and he's going with Punk. He's going with Punk,
gets in the ring, tells Punk lay his ass out
and oh yeah, to the nuts on see him Punk

(01:13:21):
dropped his ass. God, Now at that point, did you
think that's how it was gonna end? Did you think
he was he was going to choose Punk and that
would be it?

Speaker 7 (01:13:32):
I mean, like, oh I had him leaving with Seth.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
From the gap, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it makes
so much sense. I mean we talked about how how
Punk and Roman are just a little bit higher of
a tier, of a level of a superstar than Seth is,
and set to get to that level he needs Paul Hayman.
And you know, Seth doesn't need Paul. Roman doesn't need

(01:13:57):
Paul right now, Seth could use Paul.

Speaker 7 (01:14:01):
Mm hm.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
You know, I think I was the only one that
did not. I don't think I picked him rolling with South.
I think I told him walking out with with nobody.
I was the only one that had him just abandoning everybody.
I still had Seth picking up the wind, but not
because of Paul Hayman, which obviously after he nut shot it,

(01:14:23):
Uh Punk already thought, oh shit, he didn't choose Seth.
He's going back to Roman is roam in the chair.
Roman thinks he boy to lay him out, and then
Paul nut shots his ass and gives it a little
jiggle for extra effect.

Speaker 9 (01:14:40):
You're kind of glossing over what I think is a
key detail, and is that it pained him to nut
shot see him Punk.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
You know, he was like, you made me, do you know?

Speaker 7 (01:14:52):
You made me choose?

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
Why did you do this?

Speaker 9 (01:14:54):
But he took the light and punched it and Roman
and the balls. The difference is kind of was was
I thought pretty important to point out like he did.
There was still kind of that twit, that tinge of
of This is.

Speaker 7 (01:15:10):
Still my quote unquote best friend Phil.

Speaker 9 (01:15:13):
But he enjoyed Remember, fucking Roman laid his ass out, maybe.

Speaker 7 (01:15:18):
More than once.

Speaker 9 (01:15:19):
I might be wrong about that, but he left him,
you know, after wrestlinga forty he left him for dead
with Solo like he hasn't been the nicest Uh to
Haymn and he remembers that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
I think, yeah, yeah, that that's that's a very good
point to bring up. The Yeah, he did seem pained
by the fact that he had to do it, that
he did it to Seth, but when he did it
to Roman, yeah, it very much. There was vengeance in
his eyes when he did it. Like I said, he
he he rubbed it in on Roman and then just

(01:15:54):
very calmly handed that chair to Seth unless Seth crack
Roman again in the bag for the fortieth time and
then stop him out for the wins.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
I mean, yeah, the fucking match was fantastic. You were right, Drake.
Match of the night storytelling is all there. The fucking
video package they gave Punk before he came out, I
fucking loved it because we got to see Punk at
his main event. We got to see him come out
with Paul Hammond, and then we got to see a
fucking complete shocker. We saw, you know, we we we

(01:16:32):
saw a year removed with actually within the last two years,
Roman lost everything. He's lost his tribe, he's lost his
wise man, he lost everything, you know, and fucking Seth
Man just just he's taken it all, you know, He's
done this before in a triple threat match at WrestleMania

(01:16:54):
and pennied Roman again. You know where he pinned Roman
before he pinned him again. A MANI I thought it
was fantastic. I'm so excited because you know, we'll talk
about it after, but like where Seth is going with this?

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean, as we've all said in the
previous episode that yes, Seth needed this win more than
the others because he's you know how some people say
the old saying, you know, somebody's top five and they're
not number five. Seth Rollins is top five, and he

(01:17:31):
absolutely was number five, behind Cody, behind seeing A, behind Punk,
behind Roman. Seth Rollins is solid five, and he needed
something to break out of being number five and hopefully
move him further up or at least to where he
can be at least on par if not past one

(01:17:54):
of them, if not be a three or two, at
least be a two A or three B or something
of that nature. And this move with Paul Hammon hopefully
can't be that, which we might as well go ahead
and talk about. Because Monday they came out Paul Hayman
and Seth with the acknowledgment of him saying, you know which,

(01:18:20):
I don't know if it's going if it landed the
way they thought it would. But Seth of Paul Hayman
trying to say the what undisputed number one guy in WWE,
Seth freaking Rollins, If you gotta say it all the time,
it ain't really gonna I don't know, this's rely gonna land.

(01:18:41):
But nevertheless, Paul came out, wanted to smoke. Punk got
his ass dropped. Then Roman came out, he wanted to smoke.
He got the better of. Seth, laid out Paul Hayman
with a superman punch. Wait for the spear caught one
of his own by who Broun motherfucking breaker apparently has

(01:19:07):
now sided with Seth Rollins and Paul Hayman, which is
obviously very intriguing, and these two could very much go
on a dominant run with them too. Some people are
already trying to ship another person into it. Let's not
do that already. This is still brand new. Let's see

(01:19:27):
what Let's see how this works with them three first,
before we try to add more people to it. Let
this dwelling what we got.

Speaker 7 (01:19:36):
I think you're certainly going leading up to a Seth Braun.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
Versus Roman, and I would think certainly, certainly that that
seems to be a direction that they're going. As far
as getting back to my point about Rollins moving up,
this move can potentially do that as long as Paul

(01:20:01):
Hayman doesn't outshine Seth Rollins. And and I can't rule
out that possibility because Paul Hayman is clearly gonna be
the main mic guy. Obviously, Seth Rollins can cook on
the mic and we'll get his words into but for
this to work, it clearly has to be seen as

(01:20:22):
Seth Rollins is the leader of this group and Paul
Hayman is subservient to him. Because if this is you know,
if this is a being something like a Dangerous Alliance
Part two or whatever they want to be, then it's
clearly gonna be seen as Paul Hayman's thing and Seth

(01:20:42):
Rollins is just his chosen guy. I think Paul.

Speaker 9 (01:20:47):
Hayman's probably gonna end up being more of a mouthpiece
from brun Breaker and let Seth do his own thing
in terms of mic work. Anyway, Yeah, it could absolutely
it is amount I think, uh and none better than
Paul him in a quest. You know, Seth obviously does

(01:21:07):
not need that, So hopefully they can find a balance
where he's Paul Hyman's maybe doing speaking for Braun Breakup, but.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Not for Seth. Yeah, and I think that would be
the right decision to go as far as that. You know,
Paul can maybe set up Seth and then Seth does
most of the talking and while also.

Speaker 7 (01:21:29):
You know, they're both kind of ends in the back
and barks right, and they're.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
Both kind of collectively building up you know, bron Breaker.
You know, like Seth is acting like a mentor, you know,
Paul is acting like a coach to him. Neil, they
help him get his IC title back at some point
maybe well yeah, yeah, I mean he he's probably solidly
back in the Heill category now, despite the fact that
he was getting over as fuck as a face. This

(01:21:56):
may clearly put him back in the heel territory.

Speaker 9 (01:21:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think ultimately, I mean beyond uh,
you know, the elevation of Seth Rollins is not huge leap,
you know, it's it's yeah, like it's going from fourth
on the depth chart to second.

Speaker 7 (01:22:12):
You know, bron Breaker is the one who is going
to get made out of all of this, hopefully anyway,
I assume that's assume that's.

Speaker 11 (01:22:19):
Like the overall main goal or whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:22:22):
You know, Sure, you can turn Seth up a couple
of clicks, but if you can get bron Breaker into
a legit threat at the world title, you know, for
the next decade, I think that's probably the ultimate play here.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Yeah, yeah, the long term goal of it, you know,
kind of how evolution was with Triple H and Randy
Orton and Yatista.

Speaker 7 (01:22:44):
He's Bautista and Randy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if we're going to get
any other people to join this this little stable. I
would assume so at least another person, if not.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
To, I don't think. I think it depends. Right now,
I don't think it's necessary. I think those two alone
can handle pretty much anybody on the fucking roster. I
don't know that there's a necessarily a need for it.

(01:23:20):
And less.

Speaker 7 (01:23:22):
Well, somebody in a war games cage, and yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
Maybe we get around war games. Maybe by that point
there may be a need to have added more members.
But right now, I think just the two of them
and Paul Hayman is enough to carry the storyline forward
for at least a few.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Months atlers who aren't doing stuff we gots.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
He just got back. He'll need to be in a
faction already.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Yeah, I mean, who knows.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Some muscle like bron Breaker ain't already muscle.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Friend. Uh, fucking night one, that's night one.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
I've seen some people try to shop like Austin Theory
into the group, and I'm like, nah, it would help
Austin Theory for certain, like, no question about it. It
would damnse so help him. I just don't think it's necessary,
not yet. A couple of months from now.

Speaker 9 (01:24:28):
Maybe you know, if there's somebody that WrestleMania was gonna
help Boston Theory, well.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Yeah, standing on his help, yeah, standing on his own.

Speaker 11 (01:24:40):
Nah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
But if he can get linked up with this faction,
it might. I wouldn't rule it out. But again, it
doesn't need to happen until further down the line.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
I mean, hell, look what Judgment Day did for Damian
Priest and arguably real Ripley help take them to to
the next level.

Speaker 7 (01:25:04):
Oh, I love a good stable, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
This question is what would they call it? If they
call it anything? At first, I thought Dangerous Alliance would
be a good name for it, But to me, that
puts to focus a little too much on Paul Hayman,
and I don't think that's where it should be.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
But if that's the direction that they want to go
with it, that this is the mastermind of Paul Hayman,
then Dangerous Alliance would be a damn damn good nostalgia kick.
But we shall see, presumably next week when eventually, presumably
all three of these fuckers come out. Any other thoughts

(01:25:54):
on Night one of Wrestlemedia, No, man, I think, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
The uh, the highlights, I guess you wanna. I think
the highlights for me, you know. Obviously the shocker of
Jay winning the title, Jacob Fatu leaving with the title.
We had two oosa Is leaving with titles that night,
Grande Americano. I loved it. I love seeing Chippy Stratton.

(01:26:23):
Uh and yeah the main event, dude, Like for night one,
it was a good start. I was pretty excited going
into Night teen.

Speaker 9 (01:26:31):
Then, speaking of fats, why the hell did Haku come
out when Jacob Fatu won.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
It's a little weird, like that was weird, right?

Speaker 7 (01:26:42):
Why not his father or Rakishi.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Why did come out with j one? You know, it
would have been nice to see if Kishi come out
for JA. Yeah, at some.

Speaker 7 (01:26:53):
Point, get a camera on him.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
If I'm not mistaken, is it isn't Haku like jus
like adopted father or something, adoptive father or something like that.

Speaker 9 (01:27:05):
His father is sam Fatu, who was like who was
the Tonga kid? He's Rakishi's brother.

Speaker 7 (01:27:14):
I don't I think.

Speaker 9 (01:27:15):
I don't think Haku was related to I think he's
like on the other side of the family tree.

Speaker 7 (01:27:21):
It just seemed odd when his father, like, it's not
like his father. His father is not with us anymore.

Speaker 11 (01:27:28):
He certainly is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
I don't know. Yeah, I thought they had some sort
of connection.

Speaker 9 (01:27:33):
They do, but it's not like, you know, his father
and his uncle are available and this is like a
third cousin twice removed or something.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
That could be It could be it. I mean, yeah,
maybe he just got well, maybe they just cool, they
tight like that.

Speaker 7 (01:27:51):
Yeah, I mean cool, yeah, good cool. I'm not I mean,
it's never it's never a bad time to see Hakku.
I'm not gonna play.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
Yeah, like I know, I know Haku is like the
father of I don't know blood father or adopted father
of Tama Tonga and Tonga Loa. I know for them
he is. I don't know. I thought he I could
be wrong. I thought he had some other connection to
Jacob Fasu as well. But well, either way, he jumped

(01:28:21):
that damn rail and you see all it did not
one motherfucker get between him and Fatu m hm no.
One security person was like, hey man, you m won't
nobody brave enough to try to get in the way
of Haku if you know?

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
You know? All right, guys, let's take a let's take
a little break here from night one.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Hit the break.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
We will be back. Lady and gentlemen, boys and girl,
children of all ages, welcome back to this little promo.
I have to give one. You know what it's gonna
be about. Yeah, just sit here and listen. You made

(01:29:11):
it this far into the show. What we're gonna talk
about is something very important. It's social media. Why aren't
you part of the Twitter page, the Instagram page, our
Facebook page, joint share and you know what you get
in there? We'll send you a link to the discord.

(01:29:32):
What's the discord? It's where you can talk to us
all day about wrestling.

Speaker 11 (01:29:37):
Not just that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
How about you go to our website podcast Champish Your
Wrestling onequilliam dot com where you can leave her review
not just a review, you can write into the show.
You kind of question, We'll answer it for what it
does is stop there? Oh no, it doesn't. We offer
so much more. Do you want to be on the show?

(01:30:03):
Do you want to shoot the ship with Dre Doyle
and be guest music? It's like, but he doesn't stop there?
Guys saying you gotta go plarstl dot com.

Speaker 10 (01:30:20):
And buy a piece of Sure, we don't have one,
We don't want to, Thank god, we don't have three,
but we.

Speaker 7 (01:30:31):
Do have four four T shirts.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Out the guy what they have you made in this bart?
Are you a man or one? Are you a fucking mark?

Speaker 7 (01:30:47):
Can tell them?

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Times working out? All right? We are back and we

(01:31:14):
had a little discussion off air, and I think we
are going to let this episode marinate, meaning we're going
to release this episode of Night one and where we
discussed a little bit of NXT and a little bit
of the Hall of Fame. We're gonna release that and
then we're gonna come back and we're gonna drop the
second episode but we're also going to talk about the

(01:31:35):
Raw after Mania. We're going to also cover the SmackDown
after Mania, which has not happened yet, but when we
get to it, it'll be pretty good. I bet I'm
expecting something with John Cena again. I'm expecting you know what.
I guess I can't give to ma spoilers, right, But Dre,

(01:31:56):
do you want to plug anything before we go?

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
Nothing in particular, obviously the Instagram dot com, slash PCW
podcast and always find me in the discord where we'll
be talking at least this Friday. We'll be talking about
the match that should have been on the Wrestle Media card,
and that being this TLC tag title match, which I'm
definitely looking forward to seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Yeah, yeah, Doyle, do you know anything?

Speaker 7 (01:32:25):
Oh yeah, just you know in the discord and uh
give the Facebook page you like? And uh, Steve Manga
McMichael has died apparently, so rip to him. I fucking
hate the eighty five Bears.

Speaker 9 (01:32:38):
Yes, I'm still salty about a football game that happened
forty years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:32:43):
Uh, but I had a friend die of als. It's
fucking awful. I wouldn't watch that on my worst enemy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Uh so rip Mango, Yeah, definitely ripe to Mango. McMichael.
Didn't know much of him as a football player, obviously,
I know he was a Chicago Bear. Most wrestling fans
will know him from his days as a member of
the Four Horsemen in the late nineties on w c
W during the Monday Night Wars, which he was a

(01:33:13):
capable wrestler. He was definitely a capable wrestler. And like
I said, anybody who was familiar for the time of
the Monday Night Wars will remember him. Yeah, rest in peace,
Mango McMichael.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Yes, and we will see you guys next episode. And
to play us out to cleanse the palate, please if you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
Will, there we go, baby.

Speaker 8 (01:33:50):
Yes, you are the world's dumbest sign up a bitch.

Speaker 15 (01:34:09):
Fact the day in and day out for almost six years,
I improved everybody in the world that I am the
best on this microphone in that break and given a commentary,
nobody can touch me.

Speaker 8 (01:34:22):
You are not private fast.

Speaker 9 (01:34:28):
Because the street puppet and we want the sum you're.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
Yes, talk about your songs, talk about John three sixteen
Mobstead three sixteen.

Speaker 8 (01:34:43):
Says I just whipped your ass.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
Well, let me tell you something brother.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
F Oh, my.

Speaker 5 (01:34:56):
New Queen.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Praise to the.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
Tip more year, my true man.

Speaker 7 (01:35:03):
This year, welcome to the Top and Owen Show.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Lately he just hasn't been Harry.

Speaker 8 (01:35:11):
Who'sy because I know this.

Speaker 7 (01:35:17):
And I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Oh so.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
Those rotten bastard.

Speaker 10 (01:35:33):
Bye bye.

Speaker 5 (01:35:34):
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