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June 4, 2025 142 mins
Hey hey Peeps! Money!!! Money money money !!! Yeah it's time for the 17th Money in the Bank Event. It's just Dre and Myself this episode but we cover a lot. Here's the rundown for the Show! Did you give us a 5 star review yet? 
-NXT Battleground 
-NXT Worlds Collide 
-Super Star Firings and that's the Truth 
-Snap into a Slim Jim Table
-Saturday Night Main Event
-Money in the Bank Predictions 
1. Solo Sikoa vs. LA Knight vs. Penta vs. Seth Rollins vs. Andrade vs. El Grande Americano Money in the Bank ladder match for a men's championship match contract
2. Alexa Bliss vs. Roxanne Perez vs. Rhea Ripley vs. Giulia vs. Naomi vs. Stephanie VaquerMoney in the Bank ladder match for a women's championship match contract
3. Cody Rhodes and Jey Uso vs. John Cena and Logan Paul Tag team match
4. Lyra Valkyria (c) vs. Becky Lynch Last Chance match for the WWE Women's Intercontinental Championship
If Lynch loses, she can no longer challenge for the title for as long as Valkyria is champion.
If Valkyria loses, she will be forced to raise Lynch's hand and acknowledge Lynch as the better woman.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is w W E and c W alumni
look blue meaning and you're listening to pc W.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
The question is, oh you.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Let me talk to her.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
I will give you a show like you have never
recovered streamed before a life because I can't.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
What do you guys want to talk about?

Speaker 6 (00:39):
And the color red in a world.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
With the black and white of world?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah? Chid whoa?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Why?

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Oh? Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chilling of all ages.
Welcome back to another episode of pc W podcast Championship Wrestling.
I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dried Chicken,
and it is time.

Speaker 7 (01:44):
For money, Money, Money, Money.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
I like that version. It's a two thousand and eighteen version. Anyway,
we're gonna be talking about money in the bank. I
have actually a bunch of stuff to cover before that,
because actually a lot of shit happened between then and now.
Basically episode eighty three and episode eighty four. That's what
we're on. Uh you know what, I couldn't do this alone.

(02:31):
I could, but be awful. It'd be god awful. But
thank god we can do a two man commentary booth tonight.
Here we go here he is, Oh, so it might
have been.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
It's just okay, it's just.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
Jogging.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Of lack of bad luck. Like it's on me now.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I hear them all. I hear them all.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
You dre welcome back.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yo Yo? What did do?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
PCW Crew main event? Dre Usso is back again on
your podcast.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
Man, Hey, thanks for being my tag team partner tonight. Uh.
You know, it's been just difficult the past few weeks,
uh to get together because I've just been busy, and
you know, to get all of us together. It's kind
of sometimes it can be difficult. We have those those
weeks where it's just like we just can't find the day.
So we're just we're gonna we're gonna wing it with

(03:53):
just the two of us. H We couldn't even get
a tag in from like Carlos. He's been busy. I
guess Doyle's busy.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
H Yeah, summertime is the busy time for everybody.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
Yeah. Man, you're telling me, but we are getting the hmmm,
let's say the equivalent of the speed title version of
Doyle's Money in the Bank predictions. So at some point
during the show, I will play the little the dip,
I will dip out. We will go to intermission and

(04:26):
instead of playing the normal n show libre type intermission
that I normally play. I know you love that, Dwayne.
We are just going to play Doyle's predictions. I've already
pre listened to it. It will not affect my choices
thus far. I will say that me and Doyle are

(04:48):
a little different on our on our picks, which I
kind of like, kind of like, but I would like
to cover before we get into the p l E.
You know, like, let's let's let's talk about like what
we missed between you know, last time we were here,
we were talking backlash right, Uh, Dre, did you get

(05:10):
a chance to catch I know we're going back a
bit here, We're going back to May NXT Battleground in Tampa.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Ah Man.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I want to say I did, but I have to
I would have to remind myself of what the card was.
I feel like I did watch that. I feel like
we talked about that in the discord.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yeah, I mean it was. It was good.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
I mean, like matter of fact, yep, yep, yep. Now
it's hitting me out because it was the same day
as Saturday night main event, wasn't it.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yes, this was in the morning yep.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Right, yep.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
And I remember it's all talking about how NXT Battleground
was better than Saturday Night main Event.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Yeah. For me a lot of these people, it's it's
my first time seeing their matches. This is the first
soul Ruka match I've seen, believe it or not, and
holy crap, man, that match for an opening match for
the NXT Women's a North American title. That match cooked.
Oh yeah, I was like, I saw this new move,

(06:20):
by the way, brilliant, brilliant name for the move, soul snatcher.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
You know, one of the best finishes in the in
the game right now, especially arguably the best finisher from
any women's wrestler right now, any.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Any It's like, honestly, I I don't think I've seen
anything like it, and it's it's very hard to imitate
if somebody else is gonna try to pull that off,
because I've watched it multiple times, I'm like, damn, how
do you do that? You know? To me, it's did
you ever like the feeling you got when you first
saw your you know, first shooting star Press. You know,

(06:55):
you're like, that's that's fucking that's me. And you watch
it a couple times like that is neat. Uh so yeah,
I mean, if you haven't seen it, you know, watch
soular could do the soul snatcher.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, and she's really like gotten better at that move
since she first started using it, Like she's finding more
creative ways to pull it off, because when she first
was doing it, she kind of relied on the ropes
to get it. Now she can seemingly pull it off
from the turnbuckle, and she's pulling off from other you know,
uh counters and stuff and whipping it and making it happen. Yeah,

(07:33):
she's she can tell she's mastering her craft and making
that into a move that she can pull out of nowhere,
and that.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Just makes it even more dynamic.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
I guess it's kind of message from Carlos, Sure buddy,
join whatever, Sure buddy live during the show. That's business. Yeah. Also,
the you know, the the Stephanie and the Jordan Grace

(08:12):
match for the NXC Women's title.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Great match, fire yeah fire that that match alone was
better than the entire Saturday.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Night made event.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, yeah, those two went at it the NXT title.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
You know, Oba and Miles damn do that. Oba guy's
a big sum bitch. Uh loving, loving his momentum.

Speaker 8 (08:35):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
And you know what, like, uh, the biggest match, you know,
besides like the opening match, like the basic exciting match
for me, Trick Williams are versus Joe Hendry the TEENA
World title and this is the first time we're getting
the teen A title on the line underneath a w
W E umbrella. Uh. You know, let's say when we

(09:02):
started this podcast episode we'll say episode one, Dre and
I and I go to you, Hey, a couple of years,
you're gonna see Sean Michaels holding the TNA title in
a in a w W ring. You're like, no, I
don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
It's like, yeah no, dude, yeah no, because we wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
We wouldn't have believed that w W would give a
shit enough about TNA to want to have anything to
do with them.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
And honestly, like you know, I've always had like a
let's say, an ear to the ground when it comes
to TNA, because a lot of our w W wrestlers,
when they leave, you know, the options are right there.
You know, it's either TNA or AW you know, mm hm,
And sometimes they they grow there.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
And TNA does have a rich history it does. You
know a lot of a lot of great superstars have
come from TNA or made their name or you know,
maybe they're starting for n TNA AJ styles you know
our truth.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Yeah. Now I wonder though, like how long does AW
have to be around for us to give the respect
that we give TNA now, because like teen A, we
we've always we've never looked at them as a rival company, right,
we never thought they would get big enough. I thought,
for a dude, we're talking like since we're like teenagers, right,

(10:30):
like you know, that's how TEENA has been around. And
there's multiple times I'm like to TEENA is gonna fold
any minute now? Like I always I've always thought that
with the different ownership and stuff.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
And they proved us wrong because they're still going still
and now we're gone far enough that like you know.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
They look at them as like a valuable company to
do business with. So I think that's awesome, you know,
I know at this point they might just get bought
by WW At some point.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
They could Yeah, that's still on the table I think
right now. W Well, no not I don't break right now,
but they could see be a point where if if
they don't flat out by them, they could buy controlling
interests like what they've done with U Triple A. I mean,
but as far as what's it going to take for
AAW to reach the level of respect that we put on,

(11:26):
like I guess the team, which I don't know. I mean,
one could argue that AW does have more respect than
TNA right now, given that they are AW is the
second biggest wrestling promotion in North America, so you could
argue that they do currently have more respect. But I
think for them to be seen, I guess the more

(11:47):
accurate question I would say would be for them to
be seen with the same level of respect and reverence
that we have for WCW and ECW promotions like that.
For a W to reach that point, especially with WCW,
I think they're gonna need that second generation of stars,

(12:11):
because it feels like AW has been around for what
five years now, five six years?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, five or six years or seven.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Maybe they they're still kind of riding on their first wave,
their first generation of stars. They do still have some
they have some younger talent that's coming in there and stuff,
but a lot of it is still that first gen
of initial stars. Some of them are still hanging on.
Some are still going in their prime. And that first

(12:39):
wave of WWE stars that left the e and went
to them they need I think when they get to
that second generation or third generation, then at least for me,
I'll look at them in a different light, because now

(12:59):
they're the I'll have genuine history and legacy in place
like what WCW had. You know, you look at WCW
what it was when it was, you know, part of
with when it was with n WA in the eighties, right,
and they had that first generation of stars, you know,
the Magnum Tha's, the original four Horsemen and the young

(13:22):
you know, a very young Sting and Dusty Rhodes and
guys like that in the early wcwad days. And then
you get to that second generation in the nineties. You know,
when you get to other stars like you know, your Lugers,
when the Hogan and them come in. You get your nWo,

(13:45):
your next generation stars like your Ravens, your Goldbergs, Kidman's
Raven Stereo and Eddie and guys like that that come
into us, like that second generation, that second wave, and
that maybe even their third generation depends on how you
want to look at it. But it's that I think
AW is gonna have to They're gonna have to have

(14:07):
that in their history at least for me to look
at them the same way I look at like a
w c W as far as that level of respect
and credibility, right, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
I'm just I'm just very happy with the business that
we're doing with TNA, and I just like, yeah, I
just hope it grows. And you know, I thought about it,
like how many times did we just you know, just
as fans I'm not talking about this on the podcast,
but like as fans worldwide discussed how the one of
the biggest flops when we gained w CW and e

(14:46):
c W was the Invasion Angle. I mean, they did
the best of what they could. But like if if
you know, we're we're gonna get to it after I'm
done here. But you know, we've lost a bunch of
WW superstars. You know a lot of those guys might
get picked up at tn A. You know, we've I've
seen I just watched NXT recently and I saw Elijah

(15:14):
who used to be Ezekiel. Yes, yes, so many fucking names,
but like he's you know, works for TNA. But now
here he is in the w W ring of some
sort of fashion, like you get enough bodies over there
over on the other team, you know, you know, an

(15:37):
evasion angle, they have a big enough froster, they could
be done right. I'm not saying they have to invade
raw and SmackDown, but like them invading n XT or
something of some sort of matter.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
But yeah, even then, I'm still I'm still skeptical about
whether it could be done right. The main thing that
makes an invasion angle work is you have to have
equal caliber of star on both sides. That's what That's
why the WCW ECW invasion angle failed. It was mostly

(16:12):
because on the WCW side you didn't have the caliber
of stars as WWE. You know, the best you had
of w CW was Booker t who at that time
was seen as a knockoff of the Rock. You didn't
have Sting, you didn't have Lex Luger. Rick Flair was

(16:32):
not an active wrestler and was old and not a factor.
You didn't have the nWo, you didn't have Goldberg, you
didn't have the best of w CW going up against
the best of WWE. You pretty much had the B
team and from ECW their best. ECW's best was already

(16:52):
in WWE when the invasion started. ECW didn't walk in
invading with Rob van Dam and the dud least they
were already they were already part of WWE.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
So I mean, that's really what hurt that.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
So I mean for to try to pull off some
sort of TNA invasion of NXT one, I mean, when
you're going after the invading the minor I get that
the partnership is mostly even though it's w wtn A,
they're treated pretty much viewing TNA as the equivalent of NXT. Correct,

(17:32):
you know, they're they're not looking at anybody on TNA's
roster as being on the level of WWE's main roster. Right,
So that in and of itself is going to diminish
any kind of invasion angle because it's like you're you're
scrapping among the minor leagues, you know, to put it bluntly,

(17:54):
So how much investment would you get out of that?
And again, some of TNA's best is already in w
w E or their former w w.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
E talent, So how much of an invasion would it
really be?

Speaker 4 (18:07):
You know, TNA's best Joe Hendry has already shown up
enough times in w W E and he just lost
his title to an n XT star. Yeah, and just
lost to Randy Ordon.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I mean the best women that TNA had was Jordan Grace.
She's already in w W now and about to be
heading towards the main roster.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
So yeah, I don't know that.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
That could really work their best. We've already beaten we
have their title, right, you have.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
We either have or have already beaten your best.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
Right which, by the way, if I was at a
casino putting money down on Joe Hendry for the win,
I would have, because God I did not see them
pulling that, like letting Trick Williams take away that title.
I was like, oh, ship, that really just happened.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, that was a genuine surprise for NXT.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
I loved it. Let's move on here. After that, there
is uh the n XT PLI that's gonna be in
the morning, which I will miss but I will catch later.
It's gonna be Worlds Collide. It's going to be in Inglewood, California.

(19:25):
This one. It seems like there's a lot of Latino superstars, Uh,
like the Latino World orders on here, but which I
did find weird, which I think is also cool. We
do have Uh, I can't pronounce his name, l.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Dell.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
I got people yelling at me right now. I can
hear it already. Uh, the champion for Triple A's Mega Championship.
He's That's what I was gonna say. He's still right,
words right out of my mouth. Yes, but he's the
first in Chad Gaeble. Now hold on, hold on a second,

(20:11):
didn't aren't we getting in money in the bank? Are
we not getting one El Grande Americano for the first
match of the night? Possibly now Inglewood, California at two
different venues though, mm hmm. How long does it take

(20:35):
to get to the Kia Forum?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I think that literally across the street from each other.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Are they as I figured? Talk about working? You know,
if this is true, you know if it is one
of the same person, you know, this guy's working double duty.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, he ain't the only one working double duty because
Stephanie Pacers working both shows as well.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
Absolutely, that's awesome. I'm gonna catch it. I'm gonna catch
it when I can. Uh, it looks like it's gonna
be a pretty good card. Uh. You know, I'm pretty uh,
I'll probably checking on the women's tag match, and and
then that Chad Gable match, and then you know, they
have two six man tag matches, so fatal forward with

(21:19):
the next American. Yeah, so I'll definitely.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I'm definitely gonna watch it because I think, even if
it may not all the stars and everything, I think
these matches are going to be top notch.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
All these like right, these matches are going to be phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
Yeah. Then and then.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Fine, it'll be a good, great opportunity.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
I was gonna be a great opportunity for w WE
fans to see some real, some real uncut luchador action.
Not this not what we get a w w E,
which is like they get. They let him do a
lot more than they used to. Admittedly, but I think
in the in this show, I think they'll probably really

(22:07):
let them cut loose, and I think we should we
should be able to see some phenomenal work at least
I'm hoping for it.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
Uh. Yeah, Before again, I'm just gonna talk about just
briefly go over some some news here just since we've
been gone. You know, people who've gotten let go, there's
people who got let go recently. And you know what,
I know, this brace to heart Dre. I could believe
it myself. When I found out, I almost kind of

(22:38):
like dropped to my knees and I was like, this,
this is it. Wrestling's done. The fact that you let
Sarah Logan go, I just I'm sorry I couldn't do it,
but yeah, that is awful. We lost Sarah Logan.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Uh, Carlito and my heart shattered into a thousand pieces.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah, Carlito. And then Bagas is our Truth. You know,
holy crap, they let our truth go. You got his moment,
you got to wrestle his his childhood hero. I mean,
that's peak for him, you know. Uh oh yeah, I
didn't even We'll talk about that too, Saturday night main event.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
You know.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, let's go over this brief news and we'll get
into that. But yeah, and and the reason being, uh
is basically just making room for new stars. You're going
to get to that point now where like, if you
want more superstars, we're gonna have to let go of
the older dogs. And you know, these guys have been
around for a while and it you know, I I'm

(23:49):
pretty sure they're all gonna be okay, especially the miss.
I think the miss is doing pretty well for himself.
I think he's okay Will Will.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
These people confirmed that miss has been let go either.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
So yeah, miss am.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
I still rumored, only speculating, just based upon the fact
that he unfollowed w w W and took the stuff
off his profile. But yeah, again, so it's actually announced.
I'm gonna, you know, hold on.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
To it, like take that. Yeah, yeah, take that with
a grain of salt.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
So yeah, because he I mean, our truth is rough.
Because here's the thing is, like, yes, he he was
a very unique gimmick, you know he was. He was
dude commands hilarious. Like I went back and I watched
like somebody posted like a a clip of just a

(24:43):
bunch of just a bunch of his you know, hilarious
ship over the years, just put together, you know. And
the man's also let's let's say this man's fifty three.
He does not look fifty three, not even close. But
the man is fifty three years old. You know, he
wants to be It's like, EH's got a pretty good girl.
Let him retire. Wonder if I can pull up all

(25:09):
the because he's he's held some titles and he's He's
also released some music since like twenty fifteen, all the
way up to recently last year he released some music.
Let's see, let's see. He held the United States Championship twice,

(25:29):
the Hardcore title twice, the Raw World Tag titles twice
with KOFE and the Mizz, the Bragging Rights Trophy from
two thousand and nine from Team SmackDown. Oh yeah, okay,
that's a Survivor Series thing. He won the Mix Oh yeah,
I do remember this, the Mix Match Challenge season two

(25:50):
with Carmela. He's got two Slammy Awards, Best Musical Performance
of two thousand and eight, the LOL Moment of twenty fifteen,
Most Worked Match of the Year in two thousand and
six in the Reverse Battle Royal on Impact Wow. But
most notably of his career, which nobody will ever get

(26:14):
close to topping, is this man won the WW twenty
four to seven Championship fifty four times. What the hell
I will say?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Like?

Speaker 6 (26:30):
That is something he will leave a mark on WW
that nobody else will be able to. You know what?
Who Johns is seventeen? Never seen again or never seen seventeen? Dude,
hold my beer, fucking this guy's won it fucking fifty
four times. So yeah, the man's leaving a good I mean,

(26:55):
if he is truly retired from the ring, he's leaving
a good legacy behind. As you know, far as Carlito
and Sarah Logan, I mean, they've had decent careers in
WW ups and downs. They've gotten fired before and brought back.
I think they'll be all right. Dre, how do you

(27:19):
feel when when somebody's going to tell you, you know, very
similar to like how the Dudleys would tell you to
get the tables, but this time when you get the tables,
it has a slim gym fucking logo on it.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Okay, before we even get into all that, we're not
just about to sit here and just gloss over our
truth being let go like it was just some old
guy that they cut loose from the company.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Because this is a.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Dude who you know, seventeen plus years in the company,
closer to twenty if you count you know, his in
and out stints at the beginning before where he had
his you know, long tenured here.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
You know, this isn't just was he a mainor ventor, No,
was he.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
You know, throughout his career he mostly was mid card
at best, low mid card and it and just there
for mostly comedy stuff. But it's clear from the reaction
of everybody that this was a guy who was beloved
by the locker room, he was beloved by the fans.
He had put that time in, stayed with the company,
accepted you know, his position, where a lot of other

(28:34):
wrestlers would probably not accept that and would have been like,
you know, I'm better than this, I'm capable of more,
I want out, I wanted YadA YadA.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
He didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
He stuck around, did his job, did it well, entertained
everybody for again seventeen plus years.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
And then.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
The fact that he's just the fact that he's just
let go like that. The reason why it hit everybody
so hard is because everybody thought he was a lifer.
Like to stay in that position, to be to be
that on, you know, that relatively low on the total
pole per se, as far as you know your hierarchy

(29:17):
of stars, from your your main eventors to the low
cars to just the comedy acts or whatever.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
To stay in that position that long.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
And do it well and embrace it like that, that
endeared him to everybody over his career. That's why Everybody
loved him so much because he did his thing and
did it well and embraced it without complaining or anything
like that.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
That's why.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
That's why when he missed Team back Up and they
got that title, it meant so much to everybody. Everybody
cheered it so much seeing him finally get a win,
to get a championship give being a title holder. The
work he was doing even as of last year or
earlier this year, as last year with Judgment Day still

(30:01):
top notch work, you know, people didn't Some people, yeah,
would have loved to see him get a serious run.
People like me would have loved to see him get
a serious run, get a serious championship run, and just
really show people what he could he can really do,
even at the age of fifty four. But we appreciated
what he was giving us anyway. And again, when we

(30:24):
see guys commit that you stay committed to a company
for that long, you would like to think that the
company would appreciate that. But the fact that they just
let him go, of all people, it showed that apparently
it's not that, especially when you find out that the
reason is money, budgetary reasons or whatever, or we need

(30:48):
to make budget cuts. You feel like that's something that
would have never happened. With events as much as I
as much as I don't want to talk about him anymore,
you feel like if events were still in targe of
the company, our truth would still be there. This felt
like a TKO business a just a cold hearted business decision, like.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Just counting the beans, counting the numbers.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Your numbers don't fit in our business plan, by, to
hell with your twenty years, to help with your seventeen
plus years in the company, to help with everything you've done,
to help with the fact that you know your merch
is still selling well, to help with the fact that
you're still getting popped from pops from the audience despite
being where you are on the card. To hell with

(31:36):
all of that, not the math, don't math, by that's
I think that's why it angered some people so much.
And then if you if the rumors are to be true,
to be believed, which until until I hear from you know,
from Ron himself, I'm pretty much taking you all speculation
with a grain of salt. But if the speculation is

(31:58):
true that they offered him a new deal at lesser
pay than good.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
On him for turning that down.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah, you know, at some point, at some point, respect
what I've done for you, Respect, Respect what I've brought
to this company, Respect my time, respect my commitment to
you all. But instead it's just like, eh, I mean,
you're just a comedy. Yeah, guy, you know you're not
word for all that. You know you can stay with us,
but you're gonna have to take a.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Pic of No.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
It really just felt cold the way it was done,
the way he was done. I think that's why it
upset people so much, and that's why we got the
the we want true chance at on Raw this past week.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I thought they would have been much more substantial.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
I think you may can partially blame that been on
the maybe an Oklahoma City crowd. You know, they're not
known as as to be as rowdy and raucous as
some other crowds. You know, God forbid, they'd have done
this and Raw would have been in Chicago the next day.
You know, they would have had hell to pay from
a Chicago crowd. But yeah, and it's just another thing

(33:09):
that has happened since TKO has taken over that just
makes people feel like the wwe we knew and loved
is gone and is now just going to be a
purely numbers driven corporate entity that's putting out a product

(33:32):
for the sole purpose of generating as many dollars as
possible and not to really entertain in the spirit of
the professional wrestling that we knew, which takes it to

(33:52):
that the point you were bringing up about the fucking tables,
like why why does a table that's just going to
be destroyed have to have a logo on it? Like like,
y'all really just that sticky finger. Y'all got to reach

(34:15):
out there for every single dollar you could possibly make
to like, we're gonna snap, We're gonna slap a slim
Gym logo on a table, and now when somebody goes
through it, we're gonna have to listen to Michael Cole say,
oh man, he just got snapped into the swim gym
table or some other stupid corny line's gonna living out
of everybody.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
You. I swear to God, if he says that I'll
give you a dollar, I swear to you, I'll send
you a dollar. I will I will send you a
dollar and probably a dollar every time he says that,
because you're fucking right, dude, he will fucking say.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
That, yeah, because it's probably part of the deal.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
They have to say some little stupid singing every time
this shit happens. Like I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised
if fans grow to hate because of those logos. If like,
instead of cheering like we used to when like get
the table and Susie a table pull out, everybody's cheer.
I would not be surprised if they pull a table
out and that Slim Jim logos on it and fans start.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
Booing, Yeah, put the tables.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Because of that, right, put it back, Put it back, like, no,
put it back, or fuck those tables or something. Fans
are gonna rebel against this ship at some point.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
I hope they fucking brew it. When they pull that
table out and they flip it over and you see
that big logo.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
And right, they pull that thing out and they see
that logo exactly, they pull it out, fans get the cheer,
and they flip it over and see that Slim Jim logo,
and fans just immediately start booing.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Now, now, yesterday I was thinking about this. Yesterday, I'm
over at uh, you know, my girlfriend's house, and she
her son he's Kayden. He's a lot younger, but he
loves wrestling and he has wrestling action figures. He has
the ring, he has the chairs, he has the table,
the announceable and when I'm looking at this, this is

(36:00):
just a toy. But there's no ads. There's no ads.
But like, will that even change for the fucking toys
one day? Probably not. But it reminded me of how pure.
If there's one thing that I will admit that, that's
that fucking Vince did write was make that ring pure.
And he didn't have that advertisement as heavy. There was

(36:21):
yes on the ring aprons, there was an advertisement, you know,
but this was not as bad as it is. Now.
We're going in less than a year, we've gone to
one logo to four logos to now like six or
seven and now the Prime station now we got it.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
They're going to NASCAR route.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Dude, they're going every yeah, dude, absolutely, How long until
seth Rong comes out with a jacket with all these patches.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
On it, you know, right?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know, or we get a freaking championship belt with
somebody with some sponsors logo on it.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Yeah, there's a lot of AI ones going around of
like McDonald's championship. What the fuck or what are we doing? Dude?
This is crazy? You know, this is what I can't believe,
Like WW has gotten to this point where like it
is whole and I don't understand. You guys so much sponsorship,
more than you've ever had, and and you're still doing

(37:15):
Saudi deals. So you're making money there to the point.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Where I'm gonna still cutting talent.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
Yeah, and you're still like.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
They announced the slim Gym deal right after cutting Truth
Carlile and Sarah Logan.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Yeah, that's not cool, Like you know, like you know,
they're they're even you know, I'll bring it up because
even in my next thing in the news here, but
they're looking in the future to somehow get WrestleMania to
Saudi Arabia. We're gonna have a sot A legit Saudi media.
Why the fucking money. The money, that's why they're doing

(37:53):
It's the only reason why we're doing it. That's the
only reason why we're still there is the money. And
you know, we we talk, they talk about how much
money they bring in every year. But yet you know
you're you're gonna leave your let go. People like archery.
But yet there's certain superstars on that roster that I can't, like,
I'm not gonna name off the top of my head
that probably should go. I can't believe they're still there.

(38:15):
You know, maybe don't feed the fucking corporate mouth so hard. Uh,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
I'm pretty sure that it's going to happen at some point.
Yeah when who knows, But I think, uh yeah, I
think it's gonna be because we already know now every
time anybody who's been to any live event, anytime they
put anything Saudi up, fans booth the ship out of it. Yeah,

(38:47):
they boo the living ship out of anything. Satay, when
they announced that old WWE museum thing or whatever in
Saudi Arabia, fans booed the ship out of it.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Anytime they announced the Crown Duels or anything like that,
fans brew it, imagine, and you can a lot of
that stuff they do off. They do it in between,
like during commercial breaks, so that way it doesn't translate
to the live you know, to the live show.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
I remember the last one.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
They did some stuff that when we were at WrestleMania
that got booed heavily they're now some Saudi stuff and
I remember when I was last time they were here
in Norfolk. They now, uh, I don't know if it
was a crown draw or something Saudi related and it
got booed heavy.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Imagine if they find whenever they do.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I mean, I'm not even gonna say if, but win
because it's gonna happen at some point. But imagine when
they finally announced WrestleMania, YadA YadA is gonna take place,
and riadde Saudi Rapia or something. Yeah, that ship is
going to get food. That's just gonna catch dominic mysterio

(40:04):
type heat. And that's gonna be something that they can't
hide away from either. They can't bury that within the
commercial break so that it doesn't make it on television.
They're gonna have to just be like fuck it and
embrace it and accept it. But it's gonna be extremely
unpopular unless they unless they make the announcement when they're

(40:27):
already in Saudi Arabia right like they're already there for
a Crown jewel or whatever event, and then they announced, Hey,
WrestleMania is gonna come here in such such then they'll
get a huge pop from that crowd because obviously hometown crowd. Yeah,
but then it's still gonna have to come back to
the States and deal with the backlash on it. That's

(40:51):
the only thing that makes me remotely apprehensive that they
will ever do a WrestleMania in Saudi Arabia, just because
the backlash is going to be so negative and we're not.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
Talking about the paper wheel. Yeah, dude, I absolutely agree.
I'm just so sick and tired of like WWE acting
like they're super tight and super broke on money when
you're you know, you're purchasing you know, Triple A Wrestling,
you know, you're purchasing this, and you guys are building that,

(41:27):
and you're hiring all these people, and you're starting another show,
actually starting two other shows.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
You know.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
I don't know, I don't care. You know, it sucks.
I just like I said, I hope these uh, these
sponsorship fucking things die down a bit because I'm just
so sick of it. I'm hoping that we can go
back to the old days, at least a smaller form

(41:56):
of it.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Who knows, until they start feeling well, apparently, until they
start feeling it in their bottom line, nothing's gonna change.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Uh, the only other thing. I don't really have anything
else in news except for did you hear that Vince
is trying to buy t k O? What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (42:19):
No, he's not trying to buy t k O.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
There was speculation that Vince wanted to buy back w
W from t k O, and that's not gonna happen
because t a k O has zero interest or zero
reason to sell back to Vince.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
So yeah, that's a dumb story. That's a non story.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
Could you imagine like just the senile fucking moment he
had and where he told I buy it back the
sun To me, I'm not crazy like you are. Man,
regardless of what charges got dropped, you're still a fucking nut.
H I watched that documentary we all did?

Speaker 9 (42:59):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah we all?

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Did you catch all of Saturday Night Made Event? Yeah,
I'll just briefly.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
I watched it and it was boring and it sucked,
Like we already said, n XT Battleground was better.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
And this, Okay, so this had six matches, right, This
had American Maid Brutus Creed and Julius Creed defeated the
Latino World Order the tag match. I believe this was
that a dark match had a bit yeah yeah, yeah,
sorry one it says one D Dark Match. Then we
had Seth Rollins and Brown Breaker with Paul Hammond defeated

(43:37):
Sam punkin Sammy's Ain, and we got the return at
Bronson Reid. Now, for me, I was thinking for a
while Bronson Reid would be a good fit. But we
all kind of were on the same page as like, man,
that's that's kind of a lot of muscle for that group, right,

(43:58):
I was thinking, yeah, well, maybe this is a reamp
better version of what he was trying to do with
AOP at one point, just him and these two big
ass sons of bitches who were gonna protect them all
the time. You know, it's smarter on his part, you know,
to have the guys that he picked. I mean, but yeah,

(44:20):
so we haven't seen him since War Games. It's good
to see him back, and and you know, not I
was kind of concerned because I was like, oh, man,
like he's part of the bloodline and War Games like
that's a big it's a big push for him. And
he got injured, and you know, I was a little
concerned about he was gonna be going when he came back.

(44:40):
But I'm glad it, you know, slipped him right up
there with that momentum. Pairing him with that group, Holy crap,
Like you know that's gonna be great for both of
those guys.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
And then I mean, I'm glad for him that he's
being featured on a main event level spot, being paired
up with Rollins and Breaker.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
I still just don't know how well how well he
fits in with them. I still thought he was a
much better fit in blood Line two point oh, which
is basically all but dead now because they're all injured.
But him seeing him standing side by side with Seth
and Bron and Paul doesn't look as good as him

(45:26):
when he was standing next to Solo and Jacob fasu r.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
It just doesn't look it.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
And it was when it was him with Solo and
Jacob and Toma Tonga and them that looked like the
perfect fit, that looked like he was like he was
the missing element that they needed for blood Line two
point oh to really take off and be the credible dominant.

(45:53):
He'll faction that that Paul want wanted them to be
him along sie I, Bron and Seth and Paul Hayman
is like, okay, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
It just.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
It just I don't know. It doesn't it don't. It
don't fit right to me. It doesn't feel like, it
doesn't feel like a proper fit. It just feels like
they put him there and then came up with the
reason afterwards, like you know, oh, he did more damage
to seth Rolins and that one night than Hunker Whoever's

(46:35):
been able to do and ning years or Roman's done
and so many years yet yet Okay, whatever, I mean,
whatever you whatever, y'all want to tell us.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
There's certain groups that I thought would work there. There
was a time with U League of Nations we had
like Crusive Waite Bear Shamus and uh who else was
it Tru McIntyre, Seamus or Cizarrow somebody. There was another

(47:06):
another guy in the group of four of them about
Alberto del Rio, that guy. But I thought at the
time like that's a been a good solid group of guys,
and that flopped hard. But then when the Shield got
together for the first time, you know, seeing these guys,
how they were separated, not really a big thing together

(47:26):
on NXT. Uh So when they came to the main roster,
I was, honestly, you know, it took me a while,
but I didn't think at first that these guys were
gonna work. And you know, just at one point, you know,
I believed I also believed in the Shield and just

(47:48):
like I believed in Joe Henry recently. But yeah, I
don't know, I'm gonna let this play out. I mean
maybe even when I was younger, I even probably thought
like evolution at the time, because because you know, I
and and difference is though past gimmicks. I guess.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
The difference is between some of those, especially things like Shield,
is these were people who were all debuting together or
guys who were you know, collectively in a similar place
forming a faction so they could all grow together. That's
not the case here. You know, Paul Haymes is a
Hall of Famer, Seth Rollins is the main eventor Bronson,

(48:34):
I mean, uh Ron Breaker is pretty much being seen
as the next guy up or the quote next big thing.
And then there's Bronson Reid like he in this group
right now, he feels like the most square peg in
a round hole possible.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Granted him and granted him and Breaker coming out in
the black tights on in the black wrestling gear on
Monday that it did look good. They kind of matched
and was coordinated. It looked good. But I just don't.
It still just doesn't feel like a proper fit, at
least not not him. Yeah, he does not feel like

(49:19):
a proper fit in that faction. I mean there's now
granted they there are ways they can make it work
if they want to.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
I've thought about it.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
I've figured if they can work as like a two
by two but still be collectively unified. Like you know,
Paul Hayman plays the mentor ship type role to bron Breaker,
while Seth Rollins plays the mentorship type role to uh
Bronson Reed in the sense that you know you always

(49:50):
see it'd be subtle, but like you know, you always
see Paul Hayman talking in Bronson and bron Breaker's ear.
You always see Seth talking in Bronson Reed's ear.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
But not like.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
But don't be you know overt a boy like, oh
there's defection and the faction or nothing like that. They're
a solid unit, they're working together, but you just see
little subtle, nuanced things and then over long term storyte
on overtime, whenever it becomes time to for the group
to inevitably break. Then these little things that you've seen

(50:21):
over time start to actually play out, and then you
end up, you know, picking sides, or you know, they
end up actually splitting down that where Seth and Bronson
or one side Paul and Bron or on the other side,
or you know, even if they add another person and
or what have you. There's ways to make it interesting,
but as of right now, it just.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Looks awkward with Bronson Reid there.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
But like you said, it's still in its infancy. It's
still early, so we'll see how it plays out.

Speaker 6 (50:57):
Nice. Also on that card was Selena Vega defeating Chelsea
Green the United States title. We also then we got
John Cena defeated Our Truth for pinfall. I mean it
was a short match, but the hilariousness of the Iran Sena.

(51:21):
I was dying and I was like, how do I
get my hands on a Ron Sena shirt?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
You and everybody else? Because apparently that shirt sold really well. Yeah, yeah,
well they let the motherfucker go.

Speaker 6 (51:36):
Dude, what if a little crazy what if he comes
back but only as Ron Sena not happen? Yeah? I
did see on a podcast with Bully Ray, they and
Mark Henry and stuff they were talking about. Wouldn't it
be hilarious if our Truth showed up in like TNA

(51:57):
or aa W but still thinking he is in w
w EE not you know, just keeping the gimmick, and
then he says my bad. I was like, yeah, that'd
be funny. TNA he showed up the TNA thinking he
was in WW or something, and there's no.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Way in hell he would do that.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
Aw h Yeah, AW, I don't think so TNA is
more likely, and it would be fucking hilarious. Uh, you know,
just going through the whole Dave Catery and everything.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Just you know, I don't think he would do it
if if he were to go to if he were
to go to AW, I don't even think he would
do something like that.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I don't. I don't think he would disrespect WW like that.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
Yeah yeah, I mean, like match what is what it was,
but it's still still pretty decent only four mets and
twenty five seconds. The next match on the card, the
Damian Priest versus Drew mccatyre and Steel Cage. Now, I
like Jesse the Body of Ventura's opinion on this fucking thing.

(52:58):
He and I think it's true ever since they I
always believed in steel cage matches you either had to
climb up over the top and get both feet down
on the other side, or you had to basically pin
or submit your opponent in the ring. Right, And then
there was some point, at some time, we started allowing

(53:20):
just opening the door and just walking out and putting
both in the ground, And I just thought.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
That was yeah, pretty much the moment they got rid
of the blue steel cage and put a cage with
a door on it, people were allowed to get out,
go out through the door. This ain't nothing new at
all for him to have been complaining about it. It
was funny, yes, but also, motherfucker w you've been the
last twenty years?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yeah, really or even longer than that, because.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
And conspiracy theories.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
This goes I'm pretty sure this goes back to at
least the Attitude era where people were being able to
go out, go through the door.

Speaker 6 (53:58):
I'm sure, yeah, but don't you. I mean, I recall
that time period where like when I would think of
steel cage just even even in the video games. Dr
like the video games didn't allow me to open the
fucking door. I'm even I'm pretty sure SmackDown know your
role or SmackDown two or at ww at WWF attitude.

(54:18):
Like I'm pretty sure I could not open the steel
cage door. I'm pretty sure I had to climb up
over and either stand at the top like a moron
because I couldn't figure out the controls, and my player
would either jump off the cage into the ring again
or he would, you know, figure it out and climb down.
But there was I don't recall ever, like in the
old days, like telling the reft to open the door

(54:41):
so I can just walk out. I just thought it
was a dumb rule for steel cage.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
So we just forgot all about how yo.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
But he ripped No, that was the hell in the
cell and he ripped the cell door off. Badass.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
But yeah, but I mean the door.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
I'm saying, as long as the door has been on
the cage, I'm pretty sure people have been able.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
To go out through the door.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I mean, I think that ended pretty much with the
end of the Blue of the Blue Cage.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Maybe for maybe there may be some small period in
the in the mid nineties post Blue Still Cage where yes,
you had to go by a pinfall over the top
but like I said, I'm pretty sure, at least for
since the Attitude era, you've been able to go out
the door.

Speaker 6 (55:39):
M yeah, I mean this is anyway.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
I mean, I know the use.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
I'm pretty sure they've used that as a gimmick where
like you could like people have gone out, tried to
go out the door and then somebody on the outside
has literally slammed the door in their face.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
Mm hmm. Yeah, I think you're right. Uh then the
main event, Jay Whoso defeated Paul Logan or Logan Paul.
I mean, yeah, That's all I gotta really say, is

(56:23):
I think we're right. I think the the n xt
pl E was way better than Saturday Night Main Event,
even though you would think with this card it would
have been a lot better. But I was not thrilled
to the point where like I wasn't even like we
were going to do a predictions episode.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
So no, pretty much for since they've brought it back,
Saturday Night Main Event has proven itself to be nothing
more than just a glorified house show Saturday nothing. This
is the only one where this is the first where
anything of any remote interest happened, and that was just

(57:05):
the return of Bronson Reid and Cody Rhodes. Other than that,
everything was safe, a still cage match with not a
drop of blood, and really, fra, I don't even remember
how much they actually really used the cage in that match.

(57:26):
I don't remember like they talked about it like it
was a big brutal match. I don't remember it being
that other than being like just a regular hard hitting
wrestle wrestling match that happened to take place in a
still cage. Yeah, nothing about it stood out, Nothing about
it was memorable. Nothing really about this whole show was memorable,

(57:48):
just like all the other Saturday night main events, he said.
Bronson Reid returned, Cody returned and immediately announced the main
event is basically the main event match for the pl
that was taking place two weeks later on this freaking
super speed schedule that WWE has now with these pls. Yeah,

(58:16):
because that's how we have to book now, because as
soon as this event happened is over, we got another
one two weeks later that we now have to try
to build up for champions.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
It is it's like it is like just the punch
and then the next punch. It is like it's just
non stop man, it's just like.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Yeah, I mean I was talking about just from Saturday
Night main events to this.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
Oh oh dude, Like remember.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
How remember how Saturday and Night main event went off?

Speaker 4 (58:44):
There Cody was saying me and Jay first, we'll see
you and Logan at you know, at Money in the Bank.
Like he didn't he didn't challenge them, he didn't say, hey,
you guys want to fight. He's like, no, we'll see
you at this. Basically, yep, this match is happening, Okay.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
I much feel like if I was Logan Paul, I'd
be like, the fuck you.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Will the fun right?

Speaker 4 (59:06):
You didn't even get it, didn't even get a chance
to try to for the heels to even try to
worm their way out of it or be like no, like.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
No, no, it's happening.

Speaker 6 (59:14):
We'd be like, wait, are you all of a sudden,
General Manager, Cody, are you just making matches away? I mean,
you haven't been around since Russell Maine. You just come
back all of a sudden with your with your little
face twitches that you do when you do your promos,
and then you wanna and you you wanna make matches
all of a sudden. Yeah, But I mean like let's

(59:35):
face it. Uh, well, well we'll get we'll get to that,
we'll get to the money and make matches here. But yeah,
you're absolutely right, Saturday main event is now Saturday Night
mid Card. It feels like I would I would have
loved if they were just giving us that n xt
P L and then that's it. That would have been

(59:55):
the buffer between. I would have been absolutely content with that.
Because we started the ple a little late, running in
the bank because we were I was helping somebody move,
and I was like, all right, well, we're just gonna
get back to my place and we're gonna just start
it like what's nice is like it was on Peacocks,
So I can just rewind it to the very beginning

(01:00:17):
now I remember, I think it is when Peacock first
had it. You couldn't do that. You had to basically
watch it from where it started or where it's at,
and then you can rewind it after the pl So
I forgot you don't have to do that anymore. You
can just if you want to start it all the
way back. And honestly, we were only an hour behind,
but once I fast forward through like commercials and shit,

(01:00:38):
we caught up pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
So sure, because half the damn show now is commercials.

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
Commercials and ads and ads and just and recaps of
shit I just watched or rall attacked up a lake.
You know, Hulu's got the right fucking idea when they recap,
because I I don't have access to watch SmackDown anymore,
because I'm not paying a full cable bill just to
watch SmackDown. You know, I got my role on Netflix.

(01:01:05):
I can get my you know, NXC in certain places
on certain apps, and then I get you know, the
pols on Peacock, but like, you know, SmackDown, that's on USA, man,
And like I'm not paying a full cable bill, and
I know for a damn fact that's all I'm gonna
watch on there until hockey season comes back.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
So I just, man, I'll feel you on that one,
because lord knows, I'm Once this NBA season is over with,
I don't know what the hell I'm gonna be really
using YouTube TV for. I'm considering honestly dropping it at
least for the summer until August when obviously the NFL

(01:01:43):
starts back up, and then be right back on it
with my Sunday ticket.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
But yeah, outside of that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
They there's a phrase, there's a saying for people who
like us, who who stay on certain streaming apps like
that for a bit and then dip out and then
come back, called churners. And you know, lately, what they've
been doing to get rid of churners is they've been
bundling stuff like HBO Hulu. You know, but it's become

(01:02:13):
a full time thing. If you want to watch wrestling,
like how much you have to watch and now where
you have to get it? I mean, I thought, like
a dumb ass when the WW network finally launched. I
was like, this is great, this is awesome. We get
everything right here. And I was like, could you imagine
because there was a time where we had NXT on

(01:02:35):
the WW app, and I thought, could you imagine if
one day if we had Raw and SmackDown like everything
just under one roof? And I understand why as I
got older, I understand why the business reason. How much
money they make from Netflix, how much money they made
from Peacock, how much money they make from USA Network.
I get it, absolutely get it. But could you imagine

(01:02:57):
dre just one app to rule them all for WW content? Oh?
So simple?

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
It would have been nice, but we're not going to
get it's.

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
Just yeah, dude, absolutely is just not meant to be.
All right, Well, we're gonna take a little break. In
that break, we are going to let Doyle take over
for a little bit, uh, and then we're gonna come back.
So we're we're gonna give him the room and we're
just gonna, you know, just dip out of here. We're

(01:03:31):
gonna go out, maybe have smoke, you know, maybe go
out and make a sandwich or you know, file or
taxes for next year. Yeah. With that said, let me
let me dip out of here. M h m m.

Speaker 8 (01:04:12):
M oh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Hello there it's me. It's me. It's the d y
l E.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
And unfortunately, the corporate overlords that rule my existence have
chosen to see fit to work me down to a
tiny little nub, and I won't be able to make
the recording this evening. So I thought i'd just drop
in here and give you a few thoughts about money
in the bank pay per view, which is supposed to
be a Big five pay per view, but looking at

(01:04:45):
this card on paper sure doesn't feel like it. I
will say, credit where credit is due. For once, I
thought the most of the elimination matches or not elimination matches,
qualifying matches for the elimination, not the elimination. Jesus Christ
money that pay is off to a great start in there, guys,

(01:05:07):
we're pretty good. I mean, I feel like usually it's
you know, Roman Reigns versus Tazawa and want to Escobar's friends,
you know, And I feel like some of these matches
may it was a little hard to predict who was
going to come out on top of them. But we've
got our field set before we get into those matches. Though,
let's cover the undercard. Maybe I don't know, I'm not
sure if that tag match is going to main event

(01:05:28):
or not. We'll get to that. Let's start with the
daughters of Aaron's dear old Emerdle of course, Lyra and Becky.
Becky wins. Lyra has to raise her hand and proclaim
her the better woman. If Lyra wins, Becky can ever
challenge her again for the IC title, and that tells
me that this is going to be the end of
the feud. And because it's going to be the end

(01:05:50):
of the feud, that tells me that Lawyer is gonna win.
Because if Becky wins. Why won't Lira get a rematch
anytime these ladies are.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
On the card.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Think it's a good chance there might be a Match
of the Night candidate, And I think no different here,
So I expect this to be a fun match, and
I think Lyra wins, Becky can move on to do
anything else really pretty seamlessly. I think she's Becky fucking
Lynch after all. So I'm gonna pick Lira there. Now

(01:06:20):
this tag match, doesn't this feel like a raw go
home kind of match rather than a pay per view
main event? It is kind of interesting you have both
champions in there, and so hopefully that mends money in
the bank match happens before this match and maybe kind
of cast a pall over the whole affair. But I

(01:06:43):
don't expect whoever wins that briefcase, which I'll get to,
is going to cash in here. Why neither of these
titles are getting defended on pay per view, especially a
supposedly big five pay per view was on me. The
booking of this match just really doesn't make a hell
of a lot of sense to me. Maybe they're just
putting somebody with seeing it that they know he's gonna
get booed try to try to dissipate some of their cheering.

(01:07:08):
That's kind of been happening for Sena.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
But we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I think the Heels are gonna go over. I originally
thought that maybe we might get Cody Seena too at
Summer Slam, with Cody taking the belt back, but I
feel like this scene a Heel run with the championship
is not ready to be over yet. So I'm gonna
pick seeing it to pin Cody yet again and hopefully

(01:07:33):
knock Cody down a few pegs, which makes him have to,
of course rise up a few pegs to get back
to Sena. And I think eventually he will be the
one to take the title off of Sena, but I
don't think that'll be till later in the year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Oh, we'll get to the money.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
In the Bank itself matches real quick. Oh, these are
kind of interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
They've all got, you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Know, a super duper star and five mid carters, and
they've also can all be broken up into groups of three.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
In the men's match, you've got three guys that have
a posse and three guys that don't. In the women's match,
you've got three veterans and three rookies kind of an
interesting uh setup there, We'll start with the men. I
think this one is a little more predictable than the
women's match, so let's let's start eliminating folks. H and

(01:08:25):
right off the bat, Sorry Mexicans, all three of you
are gone no events and I'm including Elgandre Americano in that.
Oh yeah. Also, both matches have people doing double duty,
which is kind of interesting with World's Collide, World's World's Collide. Yes,
uh so that should be a fun paper also, but

(01:08:45):
maybe we'll talk about that some other time.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I think there's gonna come down to Solo or Seth.
And I think Solo is going to be feuding with
Jacob Fox going forward, so I don't really know what
him with the briefcase looks like, which is why I'm
going to pick Seth here. I think it's just been
so telegraphed that it's gonna be Seth. And I'll even

(01:09:11):
go further to say I predict that Seth will cash
in on Jay next week after he beats gun There.
I think they've kind of set up Jay with these
three matches kind of Braun Logan Paul and then Gunther
They're kind of setting him up to look big and
then get the legs chopped out from under him by Seth.
That just makes all the sense in the world to me.

(01:09:32):
We'll see if it ends up happening. As for the ladies,
this one's a little harder to predict.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
As fucking amazing as Stephanie Vakres looked already, I just
don't think it's time to put the briefcase on her.
I think it's too soon. Same for the other two rookies,
Julia and Roxanne Perez.

Speaker 6 (01:09:55):
And Ria doesn't need it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Ria's riea.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
You know, I guess Seth doesn't need it either. But Rian,
she can just go, hey, give me a title shot,
and she should get a title shot. So I think
this comes down to Alexa and Naomi. I could see
maybe the Why Six gets involved in this somehow, but
it seems like they're going to be more involved in
the tag team division on SmackDown, and I just don't

(01:10:18):
know what good that would do. Alexa Bliss, really, she's
kind of treated water since she came back, in.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
My opinion, and I'm gonna pick Naomi.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I think she's gonna be just fucking diabolical with that briefcase.
And I mean, I know we're due for a woman
to unsuccessfully cash this briefcase, and I hope this isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
The year for that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
I think Naomi's just been cooking, firing on all cylinders.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
I think she not only.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Deserves a briefcase, she deserves a fun run with the
briefcase and then a title at the end of it.
I don't know who she will cash in on. I
don't think that will be for a little while yet.
But these things, technically you have a fairly quickly, fairly
quick cash in and fairly long. Some of the other

(01:11:08):
competitor usually has the briefcase longer. It's kind of hard
to book two of these things at the same time
without a feeling redundant. I think that's why they do it. Anyway,
those are my quick thoughts. Hopefully, let's catch you guys
for the review episode and until then, go red Sox.
I'm out by.

Speaker 6 (01:11:29):
All right. Thanks for all those predictions there, Doyle, I'm
sure ours are going to be just as good. Yeah,
money in the Bank, this will be the sixteenth annual
Money in the Bank. There was a time when money

(01:11:52):
in the bank was just a match. It started at WrestleMania.
It was the idea I believe was through Chris Joe
brought it up. The concept is there's a briefcase that
hangs above the ring and you have between six to
maybe eight wrestlers you know, qualified for these matches to

(01:12:14):
have this ladder match, and you know it's it's I
think it's been a great idea. You know, we talked
about the stable, the the the four pay per views
that kind of hold up WW like a table. You know.
We we have WrestleMania, we have the Roy Brumble, we
have Summer Slam, we have Survivors Series, and I'm I

(01:12:35):
believe you know that money in the bank PLA is
just as important. You know, this briefcase gives the superstar
who gets it an opportunity to cash in on any
title at any time for one year. And we've seen
superstars cash them in, cash them in like immediately, like

(01:12:59):
the same night. You know, I get it, I mean
you want that title, like why not leave it the
same night? Why why carry it out? You know, But
then there are the people who carry it and hold
it for a year, and they pick and choose their moments.
There's character there. They're superstars who cash in and fail.

(01:13:22):
That sucks, you know, waiting and waiting, cashing and failing.
There's ones who announce matches I've never been. I mean
you can there. John Cenos one of them, along with
other several others that just announce like I'm going to
have my match next month with you. I'm putting it
in now, you know. Amazing. We could sit here and

(01:13:46):
talk all night about some of the greatest cash ins,
like you know Edge for the very first cash in
heists to the century with Seth rollins. You know, just
so many Dolph Ziggler cashing in. Yeah, it's just moments. Great.
It creates great moments. That's what I like about money

(01:14:08):
in the bank. It's also for us a potential new champion,
like on the horizon. Like you know, there are times
somebody has won the briefcase. I could not see them
as champion. Let's say otis winning the money in the
bank briefcase. I was like, oh that was during COVID times.
Let's remember that. I was like, oh, yeah, that's not

(01:14:30):
a good pick. And they did find a way to
get that off of him. Drake off the top of
your head, can you name three superstars who have won
money in the Bank more than.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Once off the top of my head. Absolutely not. I'll
tell you it couldn't tell you. For who's wonted more
than once.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
It is Edge, it is the Miss, and it is Cmpunk.
Now Cmpunk is the only person to win them back
to back, actually win the match. Now, the Miz and
Edge have won the Money Bank briefcase from the wrestler,

(01:15:17):
Edge beating mister Anderson for the for the briefcase because
at the time they didn't feel like Anderson was the
guy mister Kennedy, so they took the briefcase from him,
and when Otis won it, he fucking lost it in
court wrestling court with the Miz through bribery by JBL

(01:15:42):
and through match then. So yeah, sometimes when somebody wins
a briefcase, they're not guaranteed to hold on to the
briefcase even I always saw the briefcase as like a
it's not quite a title, but it kind of kind
of feels the same vibe as the title, like you

(01:16:02):
have something that nobody can take away from you, but
you're only important as long as you have this, and
the second you cash that in, whether you win or lose.
You know, there's no more value to it. So I
can understand holding on to it for quite some time
because it brings value to your character instead of just

(01:16:24):
you know, quick, being real quick. Some some notable ones
Live Morgan cashing a Ronda Rousey, you know, same night,
Caine cashing in shit Ray hysterio. Maybe I think it
was for the world title. He You know, there's some

(01:16:46):
guys who cash in like just right away, love it,
you know. But last year we had a cash in
and and he lost it within five minutes. Uh, it happens, Yea,
it happens. So this pl though, this one is gonna

(01:17:08):
be in Inglewood, California, the Intuit Dome. Uh, like we said,
across the street from where World's Collides, is gonna be
in the Kia Forum. So hopefully h el Grande Americano
can bring those boots over that he borrowed on on

(01:17:30):
Rall the other day and bring him over, you know,
to Chad Gable becauseee I heard he had to lend
them to him, a great guy, lend him wrestling boots.
But let's go over the card here, not not a
big cards, Ray. We got four matches and you know
we're we're custom to five sometimes even six. Hell, we

(01:17:51):
got five matches at Saturday night main event. But you
know this makes sense. They're going to be given lengthy time.
You know, I hope we have lengthy time. Hopefully we
don't get Uh, it's just full of fucking promos and
recaps and eating up the time here. I want to

(01:18:11):
get some ring.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
It's four matches on what's gonna be a three hour plea.
At least an hour and a half of this freaking
p League is gonna be bullshit and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Hats and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
Even if they even if they give each one of
these matches thirty minutes, which they're not because Lyra and
Becky are not gonna that's not gonna be a thirty
minute match. So you got even if the other three,
if the main event tag team match gets thirty minutes,
and both money and the Bank Ladder matches get thirty minutes,

(01:18:47):
which again history says they won't, that's an hour and
a half right there, and then you probably give maybe
twenty minutes to Lyra in beck so hour and a half.
That gives you hour and fifty minutes. Still an hour
and ten minutes of fluff BS and commercials, and again

(01:19:12):
we know that's it's gonna be more than that. We
know it's gonna be like if I had to guess,
like if there was a money line on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Time for these matches. My guess is.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
The tag team match will probably be the longest. I'm
guessing that will probably be I'm gonna say maybe twenty
five minutes. I think the women's Money in the Bank
Ladder match probably gets eighteen to twenty minutes. I think

(01:19:48):
the men's match probably gets maybe twenty to twenty three minutes,
and I think Becky versus Lyra gets fifteen seventeen minutes
at the most.

Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
Oh, here, this is this is gonna shock you. Here.
I'm looking right now at last year's card. Right, last
year's women's Money in the Bank Ladder match got sixteen
minutes and fifty seconds, and the men's got fourteen minutes.
Or no, the men's here got sixteen minutes and thirty seconds.

(01:20:24):
They only had five matches. The longest match they had
last year was the Bloodline solo Jacob Tama Tonga and
Tongaloa def. Cody Rose, Kevin Owens, Randy Orton. Yeah, that
was only twenty four minutes. Forty seconds. That was five
five matches though, compared to the four that we have.

(01:20:47):
So I agree with you with your numbers here. I'm
interested to see how well this, you know, cooks. But yea,
let's let's get into these matches here. Let's go from
a All right, they're all just.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:21:03):
Lyra Valkyrie are Intercontinental Women's Champion versus Becky Lynch. Now,
the stipulations for this is quite silly. Some if Becky
Lynch loses, she can no longer challenge for the title
as long as Valkyrie is champion. Now, if Valkyrie loses,
she will have to she will be forced to raise

(01:21:25):
Becky Lynch's hand and acknowledge her as not the tribal chief,
not the man, but as the better woman. Uh uh
my opinion. You know this feud. I think this is
where the feud ends. You know, we've had this feud
for quite some time. Lyra got the win over Becky

(01:21:45):
last time. She was able to retain that title. But
I feel like we've gone this far. I don't think
they're gonna let Becky lose. I mean, with these silly
stipulations and stuff like, I think Valkyrie is gonna take
the l here. I mean, I know, Valkyrie has been

(01:22:07):
like fucking pushed and pushed since then. She's gotten the
main roster with She's held two titles even for a
short amount of time, and you know, she's in the
main events scene with Becky and some shormer fashion or
form or fashion and she's she's, you know, the first
Icy champion. But uh, I think she can handle a
loss from Becky. I think it would be you know,

(01:22:30):
just another notch on Becky's bell for that Grand Slam Championship.
I feel like, you know, we're gonna get some women
like that coming back for that title to like, I
could see Bailey winning that at some point. I could
see uh uh, you know, maybe Alexa Bliss, you know,
putting that on their accolades of you know, I'm also

(01:22:53):
been Intercontinental Champion. It's another title for these women.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
To win, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
And I'm also thinking of where are we going forward.
I think we could see Bailey return, and Bailey would
be a good fit for Becky as an opponent when
she comes back, you know, you know, and then there
you go down the line, Bailey defeats Becky and now
Bailey also has that added to her Grand Slam title.

(01:23:19):
You know, Rain, you know, I mean that that's how
I see it going. I see it, you know, possibly
being one of the better matches of the night, as
long as they get enough time to cook here. But
I think this is where Becky wins the feud and
Valkyrie just has to take the l and raise Becky's hand.

(01:23:43):
As you know, I'm not just the man and not
just the better woman. I'm the champion. Drey, what are you?
What are you thinking? Do you agree with me? Do
you think I'm crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
I think this one could go either way.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
I could see because on the one hand, Becky seems
determined to get Lyra over. She's she's putting in hell
of work to try to get Lyra over. And maybe
I'm in the extreme minority, but it just it just
ain't quite hitting for me as far as Lyra getting
over and me seeing her as really that next top star.

(01:24:24):
Like again, despite everything that she's done, it's just not
connecting with me. She she has good matches, Like, it's
not that her matches don't suck. She's gotten better on
the mic, She's improving there as far as her mic work,

(01:24:47):
but there's still just small, subtle things that just aren't
working for me, like the fact that she, Yeah, she
beat beckylyn She won the match with Becky Lynch, but
then Becky Lynch whooped her ass right after Yeah, or
the fact that she keeps winning matches but she never
wins with her finisher.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
It's always some sort of pull.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Some shit out of you ass out of nowhere to
get a win, Like to me, that's not credible, like
you're not getting resounding, definitive I beat you, wins, I
got the three count. To me, there's a difference between
I got a three count versus I beat you, And

(01:25:32):
to me, she's in that I got the three count territory.
So maybe this is the match where she finally does
hit her finisher, whatever the hell it is, on Becky
Lynch and definitively wins and beats her and is done.
But at the same time, I could also see Becky

(01:25:54):
Lynch pinning her and becoming inter Continental Champion, And then
where does that leave Lyra? It is am I supposed
to look at Larra after this and think that she's
the you know this next top star that she goes
from losing this Intercontinental Championship to now she's supposed to

(01:26:15):
what credibly challenged for the women's world title now, No, not,
at least that's not how I would look at her.
To me, she loses this and she's right back in
the mid card where she's currently at now. But she's
in the mix of it with everybody else, not you know,

(01:26:36):
not mid card, borderline main event. She's not at the
upper echelon to the mid card. To me, she's just
back down in the muck with all the rest of them,
and I don't think they want that for her. It
seems to me that they are still very very high
on Lyra, and it's for that reason that I think

(01:26:56):
she's probably going to win the match. Because you said
Lyra can afford to take the loss, I disagree. I
think Becky can easily afford to take the loss and
move right onto whatever program she wants to next. I
think Lara needs to win to maintain credibility as a

(01:27:19):
top star or potential next top star.

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
Yeah, man, I mean I like the fact that we're
on different you know, edges of the sort here, because
you're right, it could go either way, and I you
know what, I think I'd be happy with either decision,
you know, I mean, let's face it, losing Lyra, losing
to any like Becky, that's that's if you're gonna lose
to anybody in the women's roster, that's not a bad

(01:27:46):
person to lose to. But if you beat that person,
to beat somebody like Becky in a feud, not just
the match, like you're right though, to put her down
for the count, put her down and keep her down.
You know, I believe is the night Wing. It's her finisher.
But yeah, that would uh, that would be nice to
see that done instead of these roll ups like the

(01:28:08):
barely getting by.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
Hey, Like the last match she had she was holding
on to Becky with one r while holding her nose
with the other arm because apparently she took a nasty
shot to it, and like that didn't look good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
Yeah, yeah, to me, she she.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
Needs to win this and she needs to win it
definitively with her finisher, Like if she wins this ship
on some other oh counter backslide one two three, bullshit
or whatever, then no, she to me, she's not in
any better position than she was before this feud.

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
Yeah, well either right, man, It's gonna be a pretty
decent match. Hopefully they get some good time to cook here,
put on a good match. If it's gonna be the
last one of the feud, I hope they get enough
time here. God, I'm just curious to know what Lira's

(01:29:08):
gonna wear wings, right, A bunch of fucking feathers.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
Probably, I've said before, Lyra looks good and everything, but
her wrestling gear.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Nice.

Speaker 6 (01:29:21):
I like that, all right? Moving on, let's go to
Cody Rhodes teaming up with Jay whoso versus John Cena
and Logan Paul? Really is this we're running? I don't know,

(01:29:41):
Like John Cena has a little amount of dates left.
Would this been one of the matches you would have
had on that card?

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Nobody would have had this match on their card. They
gotta kill time again, Yeah, cramming plis one after the other.
They got to do some ship with the champs. He
killed time until their next real title defense against whoever.

(01:30:10):
Cody coming back is obviously gonna looking to get his
title back. They're not gonna immediately jump into Cody Versusina.
You know that's gonna have to have some sort of
build up. I guess over the course of Raw's smackdowns,
and probably at least another one or two plis before
they actually have the match at a PL.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Same thing with jay.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
Usso for his next Credible challenger looks to be Gunter again,
so they had to do something with him on this
show after having you know, just defended the title against
Logan Paul. Whether he defended against Logan Paul at a
POL and then two weeks later he defends it against
Gunter at another PL. I mean, you could do that

(01:30:54):
if he wanted to have him as a real, fighting, defending,
gauntlet running champion, but that apparently is not the route
that they chose to go. Instead, they're just gonna by
time with these guys in this tag team match.

Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:31:16):
You know what else too, is like you think them pary.
I did hear like earlier in the year that Logan
Paul wanted to work with John Cena. Now I thought
that I was thinking John Cena versus Logan Paul, and
I was like, you know, I was not about that,
but I guess this is what I get instead, And

(01:31:37):
I guess, you know, Logan Paul will bring enough heat
that maybe people won't be cheering for Seena as much.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
Uh, Logan Paul could make people boo Jesus if he
was a tag team partner.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:31:55):
Yeah, I mean that's what I'm taking. He's just bringing heat.
He's just bringing heat.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
Also, we're probably gonna do about ten, maybe fifteen minutes
of yeating for sure, dude, Cuz we did like ten
minutes of yeating the other day on SmackDown or No.
It was wrong, like they were yeating. They we went
to commercial, you know, and then we came back they

(01:32:23):
were still yeating and we did some recapping some ship
and then they were still yeating. So you know, ugh,
I think this match, I think we're gonna get the
the good guys going over. I mean, Cody Rhodes is
back and he needs a solid I think win. John

(01:32:44):
Cena can take a loss here because it's not it
doesn't it doesn't matter. It's a fucking tag match. I
could see Logan Paul take being the guy to take
the pin. I don't see any champions here taking a
pin obviously, I you know, and definitely not Cody coming back.
You know, it will be nice to see to the
to the champions face each other in the ring, you know,

(01:33:07):
even though like I never thought a million years the
two champions in the ring at the same time, are
gonna be Jay Usso and John Cena, Like we're putting
these two guys, you know, on part with each other
right now, I guess. I mean, I just never never
would have thought that ship last year you would tell
me that, I would have laughed in your fucking face.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Uh, you know, like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
I would love for Jay Usso to get the pin
on John Cena in this match, but that's probably not
going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
That's a good one, but I think that would probably
be my favorite moment.

Speaker 6 (01:33:45):
Yeah, that would be pretty fucking good though, right, oh shit, right,
Like you know, you may be the champ, but like
you know, you're not the only champ. And they proved
before when they had Champion versus Champion and we saw,
you know, Cody defeated Gunter, you know, and to me,

(01:34:06):
that knocked Gunther down just a slight bit of a peg,
you know that he just couldn't beat Cody and it
knocked him down a peg. He felt that way mentally.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
He just it didn't mean to me it was a
side quest, was that sauty one? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
It was that freaking Crown Jewel Championship. Bullshit.

Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
Yes, it was. You're fucking right, dude, that's right. Saudi
stuff is not cannon. It doesn't count.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
No, that is like I said that side quest.

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
You know, it's like, uh, this is the MCU, right,
and that was all the Netflix stuff that happened, the
Daredevil stuff and whatever. But then one day we'll get Yeah,
but listen, one day we'll get wrestlminging in Saudi and
they're like, oh, I guess all of our stuff that
happened in Saudi is now cannon. The world's best royal rumble,
it is cannon, like the greatest royal rumble. Yes, like

(01:35:00):
probably the greatest Goldberg versus Undertaker match, like fucking terrible. Uh. Anyway,
I think the good guys are gonna get a win here.
I think we're gonna get uh, you know, Logan Paul
is gonna get pinned. I hope to see a pretty

(01:35:23):
good table spot. Maybe maybe we'll say j also put
Logan Paul through the table vice versa, you know, the
announcer's table. We're gonna see like three crossroads at once,
you know. Uh yeah, pretty typical typical match tag match here.
I don't think Johnson gonna be on the same page

(01:35:47):
the whole match. I know, two heels who don't like
each other but are trying to work. You know, the
enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of deal.
But I don't think those two are gonna work well again,
and I think that's what they're gonna lose.

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
Yeah, Logan's the most prime one to take the pin
because he's already lost to Cody and he's lost to
j so him taking a pin from either one of
them doesn't matter much. And it doesn't make much sense
for Sena to pin Cody and put him down again
in a tag match. It doesn't mean much when obviously,
pretty obviously we're gonna get Cody challenging Sena for the

(01:36:25):
title again. So if he gets pinned now, that kind
of hurts that. I don't think they're gonna want to
have Sena pin j although that's probably a viable option
as well. If the Sena and Paul are gonna win,
it's probably Jay that's gonna take the pin, probably from Sena.

(01:36:47):
I don't think they're gonna let Logan Paul pin Jay
because then that gives Logan Paul a reason to challenge
it again for the title, which nobody wants that again,
whereas Sena could probably pen j Uso. And then there's
the other option that I would like to see, which
would be ja Uso getting the pin over John Cena,

(01:37:09):
because I think that would add more give, you know,
j Uso more of a boost as the guy who
won the match for his team as opposed to the
predictable top name Cody or predictable top name of John Cena. Right,
So if it were me, I would book Jay Uso

(01:37:30):
and Cody to win, with Jay getting the pin over
John Cena. What's probably gonna happen is j Uso and
Cody win with Cody probably pinning Logan, Paul.

Speaker 6 (01:37:45):
Okay, cool man. It'd be a pretty decent match. So
I think that matches all about entrances and finishers, big
ass interests. Everyone's gonna be everyone's Yeah, well.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
They won't be getting that long, so I'm pretty sure
Jay's gonna come out first and then Cody.

Speaker 6 (01:38:07):
Yeah, it'd probably be smart, right.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
It's true as far as their team, I think, yeah,
probably a kick off the show is probably gonna be
the good guys coming out first. Jay is probably gonna
come out first, then Cody, then Logan, Paul then John Cena.

Speaker 6 (01:38:21):
Yeah, I agree. All right, let's move on air to
the Women's Money in the Bank. Oh wait, before we
move on, I do want to mention I don't think
there'll be any cash ins only because there's too many
people involved in this match, this tag match, So I
don't believe that we'll get like a champion money in

(01:38:42):
the Bank winner cashing in on any of these guys
wherever they may place on the card, if they did
place earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
It is the main event, Okay, it is the main event.

Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
I mean that always plays.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
Yeah, yeah, Cody, Cody and Jay versus Sena and Paul
is the main event.

Speaker 6 (01:39:01):
Yeah, I just I just don't think so. I think
we have too many people. I think if if we're
gonna have any kind of interference Logan Paul has plenty
of sucking people to do that. We also are Travis Scott.
So yeah, but I okay, I don't think it is

(01:39:22):
gonna happen. But you know, if if I wish seam
Punk was in the Men's Money in the Bank match,
because he said it, he said it perfectly on Rawdy
the night he was I've beaten you before, and I
got your number you little bitch. He says, I'm gonna
pick the bones, you little bitch. Uh. Yeah, but yeah,

(01:39:44):
So the women's we we have Alexa Bliss, uh Rock
San Perez Real Ripley, Uh, Julia Julia Okay, yeah, she's
uh former NXT champion, new new Uh to the smack

(01:40:06):
dun Roster, Naomi and Stephanie. Yes for you who people
who don't know who Stephanie is, Booker T, would you
please just let us know? Yes, thank you, thank you Booker. Yes, Stephanie. Uh.

(01:40:49):
You know, I did enjoy a lot of the qualifying
matches for for these this time around men's and women's.
We did see recently that at uh Zoe Stark fucked
up her knee pretty bad for the qualifying match, so

(01:41:09):
she is going to be out for quite some time.
If you haven't seen it, google it. I mean it's rough.
Whenever you see a wrestler like Legit hurt themselves in
the ring and you see ligaments go directions are not
supposed to go, and you know, sometimes like when a
wrestler pulls something you know, like a quadr set muscle,

(01:41:32):
you can't really I don't know, sometimes you can't catch
when it happens, but this, oh got it? But yeah,
given given the card that we have, I went through
and I'm thinking of of where these women are in
their career right now, where they who could benefit it
the most. Right Ria has been there, done that as

(01:41:55):
champion recently. I feel like Ria right now is to
be money in the bank winner. I Unfortunately, I feel
like she's just too big for the briefcase. She's She's
been in the main event title scene a lot, and
I think right now they're the money in the bank
is more or less trying to build new stars, and

(01:42:17):
I know when we discuss the next match, I'm kind
of just putting a fucking shoe in my mouth when
I say that, because I want to totally backtrack what
I just said. But for some of these matches, I
feel like they're for building people who haven't had it,
people who could use it, people who could definitely benefit.
Ria doesn't need the briefcase. Hell, Ria doesn't need any

(01:42:39):
a fucking women's title to stay relevant. Mommy is Mommy.
She's fucking relevant regardless. I think you know Roxane Perez
and Julia, they're they're fresh to the roster, you know,
I think you know they are former NXT Women's champions,

(01:43:03):
both of them former NXT Women's Tag title champions, so
that they both are bringing something to the table. I
think they're going to be the ones that do the
great spots in the match, you know, the ones that
we're gonna remember. So they're gonna be fed to the
system of you know, latter spots. I believe. I feel

(01:43:27):
like they're gonna one of one of them are gonna
pull off a spot that's gonna let them lay the
fuck out for the rest of the match, you know, Stephanie.
I mean, this girl has held uh, the NXT Women's title,
the NXT North American title, and uh she is the
first I believe, to hold both titles simultaneously and defend

(01:43:52):
both titles in the same night. And and so she's
she's coming with yeah, I know, right, but she is coming,
you know, to this match with something ah fucking phone.
Uh but yeah. And then we have Alexa Bliss, who

(01:44:15):
who's always been fantastic, Alexi Bliss, you know, accolades as
long mile long. You know, we talk about her all
the titles she's won and stuff and everything she's done
in the company. She's been gone for a while, and
when it comes down to the two women who I
really believe who could win this. To me, Alexibliss comes

(01:44:37):
to a close second. Maybe a little bit of assistance
from the White Six. You know, we have Nicki, who's
part of the White Six. Maybe we could get a
little assistance there, you know, like the lights go out
and then all of a sudden, like Nicky's on the
top of the ladder with some other you know, I
don't know, Roxanne and knocks knocks rocks Anne off the

(01:45:00):
ladder and gets Alexa Bliss the opportunity to get up
the ladder. But I really believe that it's time and
she's positioned right now per storyline, per gimmick, per the heat.

(01:45:23):
I feel like Naomi would be a great candidate for
money in the bank. She's one I could see cashing
in quickly snagging that opportunity, grabbing that title from one
of our women's champions. And I see now, I know

(01:45:47):
I'm looking a little bit further ahead, maybe being the
type of heel that kind of gets away with holding
the title for quite some time, and I feel like
it's setting up it'd be great for either Jade Cargol
or Bianca when she returns to have them both chasing

(01:46:07):
an equal enemy who has gold. So it's not only
you're chasing somebody you both have beef with, but you
guys are both chasing somebody who has gold. And you know,
I think that'd be great because now you have two
faces chasing a heel. I guess that's how I kind
of want want it to be. Will I get it?

(01:46:30):
Probably fucking not. But I feel like just the way
she's positioned between, you know, being on being hated by
both of these women in this group, her having that
title gives her that, you know, that upper hand of
course on both of them, and gives them both something.
We have two girls, two women gunning for the same title,

(01:46:54):
and it's not just two regular women. It's two it's
three women who have a very good history with each
other in the past few years, and that could be
Jade's first title win. You know, it's getting off, Naomi.
Now I know I'm really jumping the gun here discussing this,
but like, that's just how I see it playing out.

(01:47:18):
But Dre, I want to hear your opinion. How do
you feel like this is going to plan out? And
where is it leading to.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:47:27):
First things first, this is going to be the match
of the night, hands down. Be all four of these
women can absolutely cook in the ring. Even though I've
and I've said it from the beginning, I still maintain
here Ripley is the oddball out in this match. But
somebody's got to be able to pull off the power

(01:47:49):
moves in the slams, so I guess it's her.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
I do agree that, Yes, I do that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
You said that she's too big for the briefcase, and
if she in being I think she's the worst choice
to win because of the very reason you said she's
too big for it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
She doesn't need it. She can pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
Challenge for the women's title at any time that they choose,
anytime she wants to, because she's at that stature, she
has that clout now, and as we saw in Wrestle Maya,
she can just basically fucking force her way into a
damn match that she wants to, apparently with zero consequences.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
So she doesn't need it at all. There's no reason
for her to win.

Speaker 4 (01:48:34):
Unless some corporate entity makes a corporate business decision to
put the thing on the most popular person, and that
to me would be the only reason for real Ripley
to win money in the bank, So I hope she
doesn't because again she doesn't need it. But outside of that,

(01:48:55):
you can make a strong argument for any one of
these women to win the match, I mean Rox and Perez.
If they're gonna play into her being the prodigy like
they did in NXT, this would this would just further
solidify that and help establish that for her on the
main roster that she is in fact the prodigy that

(01:49:17):
she comes in here in her first major match with
real stakes, she comes out on top, and whence becomes
miss money in the Bank Naomi, Again, you already made
the argument for her with where her character is at
right now, she would make for a strong threat threatening
character to whoever is the smack of the ww Women

(01:49:39):
Champion with how her character work has been going do
that and then have her lingering in the background with
that briefcase as dangerous as she is and could cashing
in any moment.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely live, I mean I live Alexa Bliss.

Speaker 4 (01:50:00):
Sure if they're gonna do something with if they're gonna
finally connect her with the Wyat six, that could play
a factor. Right to me, she seems I don't know
that she's the second best option though, because she still
just got back and she's still kind of up in
the air, like right now she's just back on television,

(01:50:23):
she's not really she doesn't really have any direction as
far as what her purposes or what she's doing now
other than just being on television. So I don't really
know that there's a strong or as strong an argument
for her as Miss Money in the Bank as compared

(01:50:45):
to others. Right, So that would leave Julia and Stephanie Buquier,
both of which both who have come into WW very
high profile stars, both saw virtually immediate success in NXT

(01:51:05):
as champions. Had all been a bit of a rushed
dream match between the two on NXT before being split
up and obviously being put with Julia on SmackDown Becaer
on Raw.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Again.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
I don't know that there's a as strong an argument
for Julia on to be Miss Money in the Bank again.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
She does.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
She's obviously very high profile, but I don't know that
she has the same type of momentum behind her like
Stephanie Vaquier seems to have. And that's why Stephanie Bacquier
is my pick to win the match, I think between

(01:51:54):
her and Juliet, Between those two, I think Vicaerre is
the one that really has the rocket after her back,
and who I think they're going to push to the
moon on the main roster and make champion in pretty
I won't say short order, but I would not be
surprised if Sephanie Bacaier becomes Women's World Champion before WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Or by WrestleMania.

Speaker 6 (01:52:21):
Out of the three new girls in that group who
are being called to the main roster onto this pl match,
I absolutely Agreeeanie.

Speaker 4 (01:52:29):
Is with Roxane Perez, is probably going to have the
slowest burn of them. Of the three as far as
getting to the top, yep I should probably have the slowest.
But she has all the potential in the world because
she has shown that she can absolutely go with anybody,
doesn't matter size, big or small. Like she is absolutely

(01:52:51):
she can absolutely be credible with anybody. So if I
was so to me, the two most likely two best
candidates for winning would be Stephanie Laquerre or Nail Me.
But I'm gonna go with Stephanie laquer I think she
becomes Miss Money in the Bank. Okay, okay, La Prema.

Speaker 6 (01:53:15):
Let's get into the men's money in the bank ladder match.
We had a bunch of qualifying matches and I almost
got my fantasy match of aj Styles and see him punk.
That is the closest I've ever fucking gotten to my
fantasy match. I mean, with El Americano in the match.

(01:53:39):
But you know, the only time they fought was sometime
in the Indies. I think in like two thousand and
four or something maybe. But yeah, I mean, let's go.
I mean, these guys are on the same fucking roster.
I think, let let's let's get it done. Apparently they're
not doing anything for this pl so what the hell?

(01:54:00):
But we have Solo Socoa, l A Night, Yeah, Penta
Seth freaking Rollins on Gide and now in Medicano. Now
I could probably make a good argument for most of

(01:54:21):
these guys, right, No, I'm trying here.

Speaker 4 (01:54:27):
I think we're gonna have two of these guys were
in the damn match last year. Oh yeah, that is
true that ll Knight and Gate were in this very
match last year.

Speaker 6 (01:54:38):
Yeah uh but yeah, I mean, like I see, I
think Ellie Knight is starting a few possibly with Aleister Black.
I don't think this is where you give it to Solo,
I don't. I mean, as much as it would be

(01:55:00):
interesting to see him have the briefcase, and you know,
Fatu has the United States title, you know, him thinking
about cashing and on that title instead maybe having that
fear linger over him, you know, like yeah, I might,
I'm going to cash in on the world title the WDB,
but like I can always cash in on that United
States title you have. But I don't think they're gonna

(01:55:22):
go that route. I don't see Penta being the guy.
I think it's too soon for Penta as hot as
he is right now. Like you said, Andrade was here
last year, andrd is just a seat filler. I mean,
he's a great wrestler, but come on, I mean, I

(01:55:44):
don't see them giving it to Andrate. I mean, we're
just being honest here. It's great to see El Grande
Americano in this match. I think he's gonna have some
great spots. I think he's gonna be the pure entertainment
of this fucking match. Uh. Could you imagine if he won?

(01:56:08):
It'd be fucking crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Uh uh?

Speaker 6 (01:56:12):
And then he you know, like, uh, he would have
to stay with that gimmick because if he cashed in,
you Chad Gable wouldn't be coming out with whatever title
he cashed in on, you know, whether it be like
the Icy title or whateverbody you know, Helicron Americano would
have to come out. But let's let's be real, man,

(01:56:33):
the most logical person. Who's who's right now, the hottest
person out of these people? Who's who literally has his
own fucking stable? Who who made Heist of the Century
one of the greatest cashs on history? I think, uh
at a main event at WrestleMania on brock LESNI and
Roman reigns like seth Rawlins, Like, Okay, we've had him

(01:56:57):
attempt to get the the world title. Didn't work, you know,
attempted to get a title of his own. It just
didn't work that way. But imagine seth Rollins with a
briefcase again, knowing that any moment, you know, and he's
going to he's gonna wait. Isn't a cash in at

(01:57:19):
a beautiful moment, a beautiful time? And to have him
be up there with you know, that list of people
who've held the briefcase more than once and successfully won
it at you know, at money in the bank twice.
You know, he'll be right up there with seeing Punk.
That's awesome. I think that'd be great. And you know,

(01:57:42):
whether I don't know what title would be, Like what
if he's the guy cash in on John Cena? Probably not.
I see it more likely on Jay Usso being a face,
you know. Yeah, dude, I just all rose point to
Seth freaking Rollins in this match he had as the help.
It's I mean, they're just gonna give it all to him,

(01:58:04):
right Like, he's got the faction, he's got the muscle,
he's got the mouthpiece, he's got the briefcase. What's next,
you know, Beecky Lynch with the IC title joining this group.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:58:17):
Come on, Dre, let's get some feedback. What are you thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
Yeah, that is why I said you can't rule out
of cash In before the end of the night, because
the obvious choice here in this match is Seth Robins. Yes,
the only other remotely viable option would be La Knight,
just because if he ain't gonna be US Champion, as

(01:58:42):
popular as he is, he needs to have something to
keep him interesting, and the money in the bank briefcase
would be that. But as we've seen already, they generally
don't do two babyfaces as money in the bank briefcase holders.

(01:59:07):
Usually it's either two heels or one babyface and a heel.
I don't know that they've done two babyfaces as money
in the bank briefcase holders. Plus, it's just more interesting
usually when a heel is holding it as opposed to
a babyface, because again, you got the whole cashing in thing. Usually,

(01:59:28):
if a babyface has it, they're probably gonna cash in
pretty damn fast to capitalize on that, win that title,
win over somebody, and get that feel good moment of
this person finally becoming champion. So I think that kind
of rules out la night. Although again he's popular, you

(01:59:50):
need him to do something in the meantime. Sure he
could be the guy walking around with the briefcase and
talk shit to everybody about when he decides he wants to,
and sure that could go for a while, But more
than likely it's Seth Rollins who would win it. I'm
not saying that he's gonna win it and cash in
in the same night. The only reason why I'm saying

(02:00:12):
that is because they're clearly not gonna take have Seth Rowlins.
Caution on John Cena and take the title of Sena
out of nowhere. Right, And as much as they've talked
up Gunter challenging Jay and built up that match coming up,
I don't see Seth challenge cashing in tonight or at

(02:00:38):
that same night and becoming champion and putting the kabash
on that match on the Jay Gunter match.

Speaker 3 (02:00:47):
Now, Seth could cash in after the Ja Gunter match.

Speaker 4 (02:00:54):
Especially if that match goes is really hard knocks and
Jay is you know, barely hangs on to win. Seth
could cash in then sure, And if I was to
put money on it, I'd say this probably a pretty
strong chance of that happening.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
I think.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
I don't think any of us would expected Jay to
hold the map hold the belt past Summer Slam, right,
and with these developments with Seth and them, I don't
know that it's guaranteed that he's gonna make it to
Summer Slam as champion, especially if Seth rollins wins that
money in the bank. Briefcase, he doesn't strike me as
the type that's gonna sit there and be running this

(02:01:39):
faction and all this talk and then you know, go
for months on end as the money in the Bank
briefcase holder. If he gets it, he's cashing in pretty
damn soon. I'd say within a month he's cashing that
flucker in. And honestly, I think that's what's gonna happen

(02:02:00):
If I if I had to put money on his
seth is gonna win, and I think he cashes in
on Jay after the j Gunter match and possibly becomes
world champion again.

Speaker 6 (02:02:12):
Fucking crazy. That would be crazy, you know what though,
Like it's it's yeah, it dude's so possible, Like the
second Like what what are the chances of it be
calling like the second heist of the century or something
like that.

Speaker 4 (02:02:24):
You know that wouldn't be that, that'd be a reach. Yeah,
it would be a circumstances way different that.

Speaker 6 (02:02:30):
That's something that fucking Michael Cole would try to say
it's like the second heist of the century.

Speaker 3 (02:02:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:02:38):
Definitely that slim gym comment though, you're right about that.
He's oh my god, he snapped uh yo. This week,
Pat McAfee called Michael Cole, like, you know, Michael Cole.
We we I saw Michael Cole without his shirt on
this week getting undressed in front of us and then

(02:03:00):
flexing whatever. Cole's gotten jacked, but.

Speaker 3 (02:03:04):
You know he's been working out.

Speaker 4 (02:03:05):
He got himself back in better shape, because yeah, he
was a punchy fucker for a while.

Speaker 3 (02:03:09):
There.

Speaker 6 (02:03:10):
There was that split second between like, you know, Michael
Cole got done talking and then the entrance music hitting
for the next match, and you heard Clear's day Pat
McAfee go, he looked like an asshole. I love it.
Sometimes McAfee just says certain things and I can't believe
he was able to say that he looked like an asshole.

(02:03:36):
But anyway, what a card? What a like super duper
exciting card.

Speaker 4 (02:03:46):
Yeah, it's gonna be a marathon on Saturday. Yeah, probably
gonna watch both of them, unless unless I decided to
go to the gym on Saturday. There world's come lot.

Speaker 3 (02:04:00):
It depends, Yeah, and it is.

Speaker 6 (02:04:03):
It is hard to catch both in the same day,
you know, expecting like people just be home all day
on a fucking Saturday.

Speaker 4 (02:04:10):
I got ship, right unless you're a die hard wrestling fan.
But then again, no folk got there. And that's out
in Cali.

Speaker 3 (02:04:18):
You know it's gonna be people that's that's got tickets
to both shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, doing whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:04:25):
They whatever little pre events there are, then they gonna
go watch World's collide and then walk across the street
to money in the bank.

Speaker 6 (02:04:32):
I mean, let's face it, Like, if you mean Doyle
lives close, like at Philly, we would have done the
same thing we might have done back to back.

Speaker 3 (02:04:39):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 6 (02:04:40):
I'd be like, yeah, it's just right across the street.
And my hell, some of us did it for wrestling.

Speaker 4 (02:04:44):
If you got like right, and if you got like
twenty five thousand dollars or whatever, the fuck they probably
charge them.

Speaker 3 (02:04:49):
For the bundle. Yeah right, I don't think. I don't
know if we even did we even look at what
ticket prices were for this ship. No, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (02:04:59):
I do want to look up as we go get
closer Summer Slam prices, like how much are they charge
in for two days of Summer Slam?

Speaker 4 (02:05:08):
Like how much The stories already came out about the
forty thousand dollars tickets.

Speaker 6 (02:05:16):
In the VI there's all these VIP type deals you
can do, Like, are we at the point now where
you can spend more money at Summer Slam than you
do at WrestleMania or just as much? No?

Speaker 4 (02:05:29):
No, no, I don't think we'll ever get to that point.
Now WrestleMania is still WrestleMania. But as far as it
being prohibitively expensive, yes, but we are going.

Speaker 6 (02:05:42):
To have.

Speaker 10 (02:05:45):
Oh my goodness, Well that's all I got, man. I mean,
I don't know if you got anything else in the news,
you want to chit.

Speaker 6 (02:05:55):
Chat about.

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (02:05:59):
As of right now, I just happen to be just
satisfying my curiosity about freaking looking at the tickets WW
World's Collide and Money in the bank, combo passki forming
into a dome floor tickets one to two tickets together
two four hundred and eighteen dollars who section upper upper section,

(02:06:28):
bowl level two hundred.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
I'm assuming this is.

Speaker 4 (02:06:32):
These are going like seven eighty eight each cheapest ticket
seven hundred and sixteen dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:06:40):
Eight. Yeah, that's insane.

Speaker 6 (02:06:46):
That is fucking crazy. And you know what else is
like crazy? When you're buying tickets for show you don't
know what's on the card yet, for you could be
buying tickets for car that sucks, absolutely sucks. I knew
I wasn't going to get that at WrestleMania. We bought
our tickets, but SummerSlam as possible even like the hell

(02:07:11):
even if you bought tickets for back to back shows
this weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
Just money in the bank right now. Looks like the.

Speaker 4 (02:07:19):
Tickets going for, like ringside tickets on stub up eleven
hundred bucks and these are like ringside seats or closest.

Speaker 6 (02:07:29):
What point does it really get to that like these
tickets become too expensive that we we pass on opportunities
of them coming to our.

Speaker 4 (02:07:37):
Town and we're just like, yeah, cheapest tickets. Yeah, the
cheapest tickets I'm seeing on stub up. And these are
the furthest up obviously the nosebleeds are going for oh,
going for it looks like the cheapest I see is
two hundred and twenty two bucks. M Yeah, like the

(02:08:00):
cheapest I see, Yeah, and those are the nosebleeds. And
then they jump up to the four hundreds and then
eight hundreds and then over one thousand dollars, And that's
just money in the bank, that ain't combo.

Speaker 6 (02:08:13):
Yeah, a listener of our show, he's been on our
show before. Wayne, he's the other Wayne, but he goes
to a lot of wrestling shows. I kind of like
to get his like input of like, you know, you've
been to a lot of shows, like with prices are
varying up and down, like what's the most expensive you'll
pay for a show? Maybe, like what's the cheebis who

(02:08:34):
paid for a show? Like, I mean, from what I've
seen in our discord, he does travel around per you know,
going around to a lot of shows. So somebody like
I like to get his opinion on he's like our
green shirt guy, he's gotta wear a PCW shirt when
he does that shit.

Speaker 3 (02:08:52):
Great.

Speaker 6 (02:08:54):
So yeah, Also, I do want to bring up that,
you know, the wrap up the show here, that we
did get the website renewed for another year. It doesn't
just renew the website, Uh, it also pays for like
the the account that we have to you know, get

(02:09:16):
this get this podcast out there, get it on all
the forum or all the the outlets to get it,
to get our web page still there, to stay on
the you know, the Pro Wrestling Tea's website where we
have our store to keep our library of all our episodes.
We're you know, we're on episode eighty four. You know,

(02:09:38):
we may have only eighty four episodes, but we got
a shipload hours behind those episodes, so you know, there's
a lot of content on there you can listen to there,
there's you can right into the show you can review.
So like, yeah, we we we have it up and

(02:09:59):
running another year. I want to thank like, you know, Dre,
I want to thank you for helping with that. Doyle,
I want to thank for helping with that. You guys
definitely have kept helped me keep the show up and
going for another year. And Carlos like revisiting the media.
I say, we could say we have a sponsor from
another podcast. I guess you know, I really appreciate you

(02:10:23):
guys doing what you do and the donations that you give.
It really keeps the show going, and it keeps me
wanting to keep doing this show because it's like you
know what we discussed, this is non stop. There's no end,
there's no season break. It seems like we have a
fucking pay per view every two weeks at this point.

(02:10:43):
There's no end in sight. I mean, we could be
doing this un till we're a had episode of eight
hundred and eighty four. You know whatever, it's it's fucking possible.
Either we could retire and rotate people out. I mean,
who knows what the future whole for PCW, But I
do know for the next three hundred and sixty five days,

(02:11:07):
we are guaranteed to fucking be here. Uh, I'm trying
not to do any breaks in between. As much as
I love would love to get a bracket in here,
it is hard to get us all together for a bracket.
It is hard for us to breathe in between pay
per views, to also want to squeeze in any other

(02:11:28):
wrestling between pay per views. But yes, you know, from
the bottom of my heart, I thank you guys very
much because without you guys, without the listeners here, without
the donations, PCW would not exist.

Speaker 4 (02:11:44):
So absolutely, I don't know. So damn I'm still I
was listening to everything. Holy fucking shit, what the hell
I was listening everything for saying, But I was also
still browsing ticket prices for this ship. Oh my god,

(02:12:05):
I'm looking at one as a front row seat for
what the hell for?

Speaker 3 (02:12:11):
For money in the bank. And it looks like.

Speaker 4 (02:12:16):
It's an official Platinum section b road one row, one
c force, So it's a front row ticket. What is
this deal with official Platinum? You man organize the prices
tickets courding to Mark blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (02:12:28):
Whatever. Fuck whatever ticket.

Speaker 4 (02:12:32):
Yeah, looks like just money in the bank front row
one ticket, subtotal nine thousand, six hundred and seven dollars
and twenty cents.

Speaker 6 (02:12:49):
The fuck do you like?

Speaker 1 (02:12:51):
You?

Speaker 6 (02:12:52):
Well, first of all, you get that fucking Charry, you
get to take home, right, But.

Speaker 4 (02:12:58):
What the fuck I'm up that fucking price. I'm bringing
some scissors. I'm cutting somebody. I'm cutting a peeple lock
of somebody's hair.

Speaker 6 (02:13:05):
Off lift Morrigan.

Speaker 3 (02:13:06):
Come here, you're thrown into the turbugle. You can see me.
Slip snip, snip snip.

Speaker 6 (02:13:16):
Yeah, man, I better get like a fucking T shirt.
I better be sitting next to the fucking green shirt
guy so I can interview him, you know, I or that,
or be with an earshot of Pat McAfee and Michael Coles.
I just chase shit over commentary something nine thousand? Like
am I getting Lived Morgan's phone number? Afterwards?

Speaker 1 (02:13:35):
Like?

Speaker 6 (02:13:35):
What am I else? Am I getting in this fucking
what seems to be a VIP package deal?

Speaker 4 (02:13:42):
It better be, because there's no other tickets that are
now anywhere near that price.

Speaker 3 (02:13:48):
All the rest of them looks like the closest tickets are.

Speaker 4 (02:13:52):
Well, no, I'll take that back, because there's another one
here section eight three thousand, three d and fifty eight
dollars in this other section big, which looks like, yeah,
this is fucking crazy. What looks like the other ones
are mostly about like eight hundred bucks right for some

(02:14:16):
of the other ones that are still close enough that
you're gonna see every damn thing. Yeah, I don't know
where the extra nine thousand dollars of value is from
being in row four versus row one, right, or even hell,
even row three. Section b's eight hundred and sixty bucks

(02:14:37):
two rows behind these overpriced fuckers watching the same show.

Speaker 3 (02:14:43):
I'm good with that.

Speaker 6 (02:14:45):
And now that I know this, and now that the
listeners know this, So when you guys are watching this,
pl you know, just think about the people who are
like paying this kind of money. It's a pretty serious
like this, this is the guy that paid like that
much money. And I also wonder if there's like if

(02:15:07):
there's like high end people that are sitting nearby that
like maybe like a celebrity or something that pays for
those outrageous tickets or like, I don't know, somebody in
the company.

Speaker 4 (02:15:18):
No, maybe, although I doubt it because usually most of
the celebrities are usually near the announced tables because that's
usually where some of the most expensive seats are, because
they don't want to be opposite of the hardcam where
they'll be on camera the whole night, so they're usually
most celebrities are either on the hardcam side or the

(02:15:39):
announced table side, yeah, where they're off camera but close
enough that can be shown or interacted with if need be.
But they're rarely, rarely ever on the hardcam side where
you could see them all night.

Speaker 1 (02:15:53):
Right.

Speaker 4 (02:15:57):
Meanwhile, freaking Worlds Collide. The most expensive ticket I see
here is but six hundred bucks. Yeah, far more quote
unquote reasonable.

Speaker 3 (02:16:14):
I guess again, we.

Speaker 6 (02:16:17):
Got these ticket prices through the roof, right through the
fucking merch prices through I'm drinking out of a plastic cup.
I got a WrestleMania but yet yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:16:29):
Now, admittedly, though six hundred bucks for Worlds Collide is high.

Speaker 4 (02:16:35):
But to me, it's not so unreasonably high because we're
talking about like row three for six hundred bucks for
a premium event like this, I think that's reasonable expensive, yes,
but not not obnoxious with what today's market kinda is.

(02:16:55):
That's actually kind of a deal if you compare it
to some of them like I would. I would like
if I was attending a WWEPL and I wanted to
sit that close, I would expect something in the six
hundred two thousand dollars range. Four seed, I think that's reasonable.
There's one ticket here that's like twelve hundred bucks, which
is looks like this is probably hardcammed, the opposite of

(02:17:21):
hardcam side bro three, so those will probably be like
premium seats.

Speaker 3 (02:17:25):
But it's only two of them, which.

Speaker 4 (02:17:27):
Is weird though, because two of them are twelve hundred
bucks and yet three seats over in the same row
is five hundred bucks five hundred eighty eight bucks. The
fuck am I paying for them twelve hundred dollars tickets
for so I can be in the middle of the
hardcam side, I'll save seven hundred bucks and sit three

(02:17:47):
seats over right. That's oh my god, this ticket price
and don't make no dairy sense. Yeah, World's klates reasons
surprisingly affordable, like good seeds going for like three hundred bucks,
three hundred, four hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (02:18:04):
I pay that.

Speaker 6 (02:18:05):
Yeah, I pay that too.

Speaker 3 (02:18:07):
Yeah, that not even up.

Speaker 6 (02:18:11):
I feel like I would get my money's worth on
an NXC show. Now, So all right, man, that's all
I got. Do you want to do you wanna plug
anything else beside expensive ass ticket prices?

Speaker 4 (02:18:25):
No, that's it as always, you know, uh Instagram, dot com,
slash pc W podcast.

Speaker 6 (02:18:32):
Yeah, all right, man, that's all I got.

Speaker 3 (02:18:34):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:18:35):
You know who I'm gonna have. I gonna have Booker
T plays that one more time, just just for the
fact of it's Booker T.

Speaker 3 (02:18:41):
Here we go, Here we go. Baby. You are the

(02:19:07):
world's dumbest sign up a bitch.

Speaker 9 (02:19:12):
Fack that day in and day out for almost six years,
I improved everybody in the world that I am the
best on this microphone and in that break even in commentary,
nobody can touch me.

Speaker 2 (02:19:25):
You are not private ward because the street puppets up
and we watched the sum your yes, talk about your songs,
talk about John three sixteen.

Speaker 1 (02:19:43):
Lobstead three sixteen says I just whipped your ass.

Speaker 3 (02:19:48):
Well, let me tell you something, brother.

Speaker 5 (02:19:53):
Frock, Oh my.

Speaker 1 (02:19:58):
You queen friends to the.

Speaker 2 (02:20:03):
Top, Oh year, my true man, this year, welcome to
the Top and Owen Show.

Speaker 6 (02:20:10):
Wait wait he just hasn't been Harry Usy.

Speaker 2 (02:20:17):
Hey kin'd all go mad?

Speaker 6 (02:20:20):
And oh don't rotten rot.

Speaker 3 (02:20:35):
Bye bye bitch.

Speaker 6 (02:20:46):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages,
welcome back to this little promo. You have to give one.
You know what it's going to be about. Yeah, just
sit here and listen. You made it this far from
the show. What we're gonna talk about is something very important.
It's social media. Why aren't you more of the Twitter page,

(02:21:08):
the Instagram page, our Facebook page.

Speaker 8 (02:21:12):
Joint share and you know what you get in there?
We'll send you a link to the discord. What's the discord?
It's where you can talk to us all day about wrestling.

Speaker 6 (02:21:25):
That's just that. How about you go to our website
podcast Shash your Wrestling one dot com where you can
be heard you not unjust or you you can write
into the show you kind of question, We'll answer it
for you. What it doesn't stop there? Oh no, If

(02:21:45):
it doesn't, we offer so much more. Do you want
to be on the show? Do you want to shoot
the ship with Dre Doyle and be a guest? A
real music.

Speaker 4 (02:21:59):
Is like?

Speaker 6 (02:22:01):
But it doesn't stop there. Guys say, you gotta go
wrestlings dot com and buy a piece of sure right,
we don't have one. We don't have to, Thank god,
we don't have three, but we do have.

Speaker 5 (02:22:20):
For get T shirts.

Speaker 6 (02:22:27):
Out the guys what they get made in this mart?
Are you a man or what? Are you a fucking mark?
Tell you times running out am
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