Episode 88 Night of Champions 2025 review

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The journey is long, the path is hard, but the
destination distant, eternal gleaming, is somehow clear. Getting here is
framed by a question and shaped by a fight. But

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maybe the fight isn't the hardest part.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Maybe it's what you carry that's even heavier. Not just
the strength and will or the grit and belief.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
It's the other things.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
The pressure of.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Expectation, the weight of opportunity, the burden of doubt, and.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
The simple, central, unyielding question, are you enough? This is
where you get the chance to find out.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
The steps time now.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I don't be high. How strong is Dan Cargill? You
are not ready? Long step Closa, some of the death chef.
For Tony Rubs, I have to do whatever it.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Takes to get number fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
And for some.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
The last time is now to show the world who
they truly.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Are day in, day out nowadays are.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
For twenty five years, I have been the greatest.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Of all time.

Speaker 7 (01:46):
It's time see him.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Punk woke up as champion John Cena cem Punk one final.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Match, the chance to define yourself in this kingdom, this.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Moment, this match, this night as a champion and now

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w w E PRESSSS Night of champions. Hey, this is

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w W E and E c W alumni THEOK Bloomenie
and you're listening to pc W.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
The question is, oh you.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
When I talk to I will give you a show
like you have never ever seen the.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Pot of life because I can't.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
What do you guys want to talk about? God from
the colored red in a world with a black and
white either a world?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, let you love.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
If you don't go excopie the cha. What's a bigger mad?
You got a bigger mad? What I said?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, churn vouge. Just welcome
back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I
am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken.
And what are we gonna cover tonight? We're gonna cover
Night of champions post show in Saudi Arabia, and if
we have a little bit time, we're gonna talk about
maybe what matches have been added to the Great American Bash,

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what matches may have been added to Saturday Night main event,
what matches may have been added to Evolution. So we
still have a lot of shif to cover. But I'm
not gonna do this alone, So let me just go
right ahead and introduce them. Here we go.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Hey, Hey, it might have been telling you that.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
It's shutting me.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, dang, it's just chucking me. Dang chucking me. Okay, dang.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
This is dad lot of them all, not for.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
Lack of damn black dam I did.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Hey, it's on me nows.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
Hey, Hey, I'm gonna get him all.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I'm gonna get him all.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
I'mna Jim. Don't you welcome back? Dress?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yo? Yo? What did do? Pc W crew main event?
Dre whoso is back on your podcast?

Speaker 7 (05:43):
Man?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
It is it's hot here in the n p A.
I don't know how hot it is where you're at,
but definitely huh as hell yeah, uh definitely not as
hot as it probably was in Saudi though. I heard
that was a a fucking nightmare, as it always is
when when they're there with the heat. Uh yeah, it

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must not be fun. Uh. Hey, we are not doing
this alone, man, I'm gonna bring in somebody that we've
had on the show before. Here. He is Hovie from

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Sofa King's Smarts podcast.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
How you doing, buddy, doing good? How are you guys
doing today?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Hot? Hot? Dude? You want to talk about hot?

Speaker 5 (06:41):
It's one hundred, one hundred eleven degrees where I'm at
right now.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
One hundred and eleven. Holy ship, you take the trophy, yo, yeah, win, yes, yeah, win.
What's your humidity like that?

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yes, humidity is not bad humidity. We I mean we're
in the we're in the desert, so it's more dry heat.
So my humidity is at fourteen percent.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Oh dude, that's fourteen n yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
So I'll take this over whatever you guys, whatever you
guys are dealing with over there.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen fourteen percent humidity
in Virginia in my life.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Never. Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Like minimum minimum sixty percent, I think.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Oh yeah right, yeah, I mean, like the sun just
went down, just back going down. It's like seventy two here,
but like during the day it was like ninety. But
you know, the humidity is high here. Yeah, it's sticky
all day.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
I'll take this dry heat any.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Day, dry absolutely, yeah. Man, I'm just I mean, he's
sweating my ass off at work.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Here where I live, right, we get as hot as
Saudi Arabia. So we're looking at one seventeen's one nineteens
and some of the teens. So whatever, they're dealing with
over there. It is not fun, man, It's terrible.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, especially like, you know, not being
used to wrestling in like such. I mean, I'm sure
back in the day when they were wrestling like high
school gyms or you know, shitty arenas. I mean, but
to come here and just just have to sweat it out, man,
and you know what, just wrestling with other people just
I don't I don't care who you are, just body

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on body, that kind of heat, that's got a that's
got a stench or some.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Kind oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
And then the women who got weired, the unfortunate one
piece bodysuits, talking.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
About sweat women, Yeah, I don't mind.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
It, yea, and in those suits and that he ain't
nowhere for all that sweat. This escape is.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Just Meanwhile, gold Dust is like, hey, I've done it
for years. It's not a problem, a big deal, dude. Yeah,
it's it's ridiculous, ridiculous. Yeah, let's get into this pay
per view here, Trey, do you want to kick us off?

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Man?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yep. So, as you said, talking about Knight of Champions
a K A Night of some Champions or a few
Champions a K A W w e in your house,
bombs over Baghdad or wherever you want to call it.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm gonna spin up stee on that one in your
house over.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
In the Middle East. Ye'hall know where it took place,
Kingdom Center, Red, their capital, all that good stuff. Anyway,
it's p a billy. Kicked off with the finals of
the men's King of the Ring tournament featuring Randy Orton

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taking on Cody Rhodes, which resulted in Cody Roads winning
via penfall to become, to absolutely nobody's surprise, twenty twenty
five King of the Ring. I mean, the match wasn't bad.
Even if the outcome was predictable from a mile away,

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the match itself was still decent enough. They told fairly
fairly decent story, with Cody being a bit more aggressive
than you would expect from a typical white bread baby
face and Randy Orton being the one to have a
bit of a conscious issue with him, you know, hesitating
to hunt Cody Roads, and Cody Roads deliberately targeting Cody's

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i mean, Brandy's back and using that to his advantage.
But at the same time, when you know the outcome
is already there, how much can you really how much
can you really be into the match? You know, like
I said, not a bad match, but it was just

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more like just waiting for the inevitable. The only thing
that surprised me about is the fact that Randy went
down with just two crossroads. I figured he was at
least three crossroads worthy. He did kick out the first
one like I expected, but he did not kick out
at number two. A little disrespectful. Fifteen time champion, he

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should be minimum three crossroads in a row. Maybe not
in a row. He ain't trivel chief territory, not in
a row. But I figured it was gonna be one
kickout and then two in a row for the win. Right,
But then again, I guess when you crack your shit
on the damn unprotected turnbuckle, maybe that counts as half

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a crossroads or something. So what were your thoughts on match? Wayne?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Let's let's start off with like how I brought up
last episode, how the logos in the ring and all
the ads that dude, we got one solid ad right
in the middle. That was it. There was There's none
on you know, the barricades, there's none on the ring aprons.
It's just says wwe Nighted Champions. It's dude, it no lie,

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I kind of liked it. There was no Prime station,
it was clean, just had that one leg. It was right.
The ring posts weren't done up like uh, you know,
like it was a ridiculous Last week, I set up
you know, the kid's wrestling ring, money in the bank

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wrestling ring, and I'm putting the stickers on it, and
there's logo was all over the damn place, and I'm
just like, this is what it should look like. But
now I know, like I gotta you know, thank god,
they don't come with it yet, but like, you know,
you gotta put like advertisement stickers all over the goddamn plays.
It was just ridiculous. So yeah, it was refreshing. No,

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not yet, but it has a lot of stickers on
it as of you know, for a toy, it had
a lot of stickers. But yeah, no, like.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
They were like sponsor stickers for you to put.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
No, no, no, no, not yet. But I'm saying like
one day, man, like get your own.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Like you know, would go straight in the trash.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Damn fan, dude, can you imagine? But but anyway, I
did get what I wanted. I got a Cody Cutter
turned into an r KO. I did say that because
Cody was doing like a thousand Cody Cutters. He spent
most of his time bouncing off the ropes in this

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fucking match, and I was like, it was gotta get
caught in an r KO at some point, right.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You know, I was also very surprised that they won
for the superplex like one minute into the match going, so,
you know, doing the superplex, you know, right off the bat,
Orton was able to kind of like sell that back
injury during that entire match. And and I did say
that Orton what would be his downfall is he would

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be he would have the window, that opportunity man to
to punt Cody in the head, and he would hesitate,
and that's what would fuck him over. And that's what
it did, the hesitation. And then you know, once he
saw another window that he might go all in heal
healish move, he took the turnbuckle off, but you know,

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he just waited too long a man, and and and
it got him it. He ended up hitting it and
in the ribs and one Cody Cutter and he was done. Yeah,
but it was still a pretty good match. So for
an opening match, say on nineteen minutes forty five seconds,
it's still pretty decent.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Hoovie, what do you think good way to kick off
the pl Yeah, where you at.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Ben wasn't really a fan of this match, just because
it's too predictable for me. When a match is too predictable,
it just takes away the entire the entire process. Like
I just I can't get into it unless there's like
a you know, pretty big spot. It doesn't really do

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anything for me. The fact that Randy took the super
plex and hurt his back at the beginning, it was
just so uncharacteristic of him, so right off the bat,
like you just even made it more predictable that he
was going to lose because he started doing things that
he normally doesn't do. But yeah, the fact that Cody
was just kind of going up and down and being
super Cody. It just it's like, come on, man, sell

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it to me a little bit more. Give me, give
me a little bit more of like Randy at least,
you know, make believe that you know he's gonna win,
and then kind of Cody being the underdog I guess
in this in this uh versus his you know, his
mentor you know, sell that story again. But other than that,
like it's just too predictable for me. And then Michael

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Cole wasn't doing any favors of this match either.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, yeah, exact, I'm in I'm in the same place
with you with it. Like I said, when we all
knew Cody was gonna win, So you're watching the match
and it's just like, all right, we all know the ending,
how you gonna get there. So once they did finally
get there, we got the postmatch interview with Viyron Saxson

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interviewing Cody, which you know whatever, don't like give a
shit what Cody said. The more interesting thing was happening
outside the ring with Randy looking back watching, looking visibly
upset and ejected, which is fueled speculation that a Randy
Orton He'll turn is imminent, speculating this for over a

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year now. The real question is, mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
I was gonna say, he'll Randy is the best Randy.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
He'll Randy is the best of Randy. But my question
is can Randy even be heel at this point in
his career, Like, even if he were to turn on
Cody or whatever, would fans even really boo.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Him, Like, is he like in that John Cena window
where like, you know, he's a heel, but we're still
fucking cheering him.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I got Seena got some booze, Like he's gotten some booze.
Granted they didn't last long before fans have, you know,
started to share him. But Scena can can pull a
boo out out of the fans. He can, and he's
shown that can Randy And can he do it against Cody?

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For anybody you know over the age of eleven?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, that's I mean, like, I feel like there comes
a certain point in your career wrestling career where you've
reached like a status where it's of respect from us
as fans that we don't boo you or you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, you have a certain level of immunity at a
certain point, and I wonder if Randy's at that point.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I feel like he is.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Man. Yeah, we all know he can be a heel.
He can absolutely heal it up like it ain't nobody's business, right,
But if he were to, like if he would have
went back in that ring and rkl the fuck out
of uh Cody, would anybody have booted? Maybe the Saudi
crowd would have I feel like some people back in
stations would have been like, hell yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
I think I think it goes in this And because
I look at it from this point of view, you
have your casual fans, then you have us your marks.
For the casual fans. Yes, the answer is yes, Randy
can definitely get the booze because of the casual fan.
For the marks, it's what we want, you know what
I mean. But for Randy to get the booze, he
has to do something drastic like beat up a Cody

(19:06):
Rhodes and you know, send him to you know, I
r if you will get him out of there, get
him out of the picture, and then have Cody come
back and face Randy Orton. That's really the biggest thing
is take out, take down the biggest babyface. Otherwise you're right,
no one's really gonna believe this. Heel Randy Orton because
he needs to have some kind of quote unquote passion

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to go after you know, his fifteenth belt, and Cody's
in the way, like you have to have some kind
of story with him. And if he's not interested, we
know that Randy, if he's not interested in the story,
he's not going to do anything to make it better.
So it has to be something in the back end
that Randy has to agree with and have him basically
wrestle his heart out out there.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
And consider the fact that this is an older Randy Orton,
this is this is a father. Now does he even
want to be a heel anymore? Yeah, it might not
be of interest to him. He may be of this
mindset of I've been there, I've done that. Let me
just you know, be the veteran and let me just

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stay a baby face from the kids for the rest
of the year. Maybe he doesn't want his kids seeing
an arena Buddha hell out of them. Or I'm having
to do what it would take for him to really
get over as a heel, because, like you said, if
he's just kind of phoning it in as a hell,
it ain't gonna work, you know, not after we got

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you know, people's talk about you know, oh nine, Randy
Orton is a thing. People show the pictures of Orton
from that era and it means something. Yep, you know,
that's that's up there with other you know, wrestlers of
a specific point in their career that people strongly connect with.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
So the problem. The problem with that is that they
can't go back to oh nine, Randy Organ. They can't
go back to the punching could the punting the people
because you know more obviously more and more kids watch it.
There's more. Uh, social media is a bigger impact, so
kids have access to seeing that kind of stuff. And
then't you know, what's the disclosure in the beginning of
every show, don't try this at home. People are gonna

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try it, so they just won't go back to that
Randy Organ more.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Stuck with this rand Yeah, I believe yes and no
to that effect because obviously the messages always don't try
this at home, but they also do way wilder ship
now in the ring now than what they used to do.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
And nine, well, when you were kids, well, you guys
always pull on each other. I mean when I was
a kid, we were going around giving each other diamond
cutters before the r KO.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
I mean, I mean, like I said, when I was
a kid, the most devastating thing we were doing to
people was a DDT. Yeah, because that was the most
devastating thing we saw on wrestling, like see like killed
people in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Fucking do you run an kids right now?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
These motherfuckers are doing damn falcon arrows off the ropes
and every other match and ship and jumping from ring
apron to announcer's tables like it ain't nobody business. So yeah,
a punt is relatively tame by today's standards. Seth rollins
stomping people heads into the mats every other week, freaking

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ben ballor doing double stumps on people's chests. The hell,
the punt might not resonate like now like it used to. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
See, Randy was doing punts to everybody, not just not
just wrestlers, which is the biggest.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Difference, right that part.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, So I mean, I don't know. I hope, I
hope we're wrong. I hope we're wrong on this. I
want Randy, I want that, you know, that Legend Killer.
Come bring back the Legend Killer. Yeah, that's what made
me fall in love with the character of Randy Orton,
And if we can get that back, that'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah. Yeah, I would love to see him be a
heel again, and it loved him to make it work.
He's gonna have to find a different way to make
it work now, because, like I said, people, he blinds
up the punt people now and the crowd gets hyped
board yep, because they want to see the punt. So
that ain't gonna work as a heel tactic.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
So mhmm, yeah, because he misses all the time now,
so people just you know, because.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
He didn't Yeah, he didn't do it or something way.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, So guys, let me ask you. We have the
American Nightmare T shirt. How many Rehide Nightmare T shirts?
Do you think they sold?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Zero? Because I don't think that shirt existed.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
No, it existed. It's in the.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Crowd A nightmare shirt.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, it's green. It's like that John Cena green. Yeah.
I was like I saw wearing it and I was like,
oh shit, gh hmmm.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Idea was that? You know what? Yeah, you ain't never
seen a dollar day didn't like.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I know, yeah, green shirts. So Rehab Nightmare Nightmare.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
How many shirts they sell?

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I don't know, but one is too many.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
So when they do clash in Paris, are they going
to do the French Nightmare?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah? That's what I mean, Like, where is it? Stop?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Man?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
You know what I'm okay with. You know, when shirts
go on, we'll say, uh tour, right, the John Cena
shirt tour that's cool, right, that's all.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
This makes sense. But you know what, I was out there,
who are collecting every single one for every city? Yeah,
when they get done, somebody's gonna be on social media
posting every single shirt he wore this year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
The only other shirt that I think I.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Got the whole set shirt, wristband, socks, cap, the whole.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Kid because the only other shirts that go on like tour,
I guess you could say is that there's always like
Philly three sixteen, you know, any three sixteen wherever you're from,
you know.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah, always was also one too.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Oh yeah, super like city. That's a good one. And
then it's just like the standard WW event is in
your town or something like that, Like, yeah, the standard
T shirt, the one that the guy's selling in the
parking lot as you're leaving the event, not before because
he for someone raison. Sometimes I'm not there before the event,

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but after the event, when you're trying to get the
hell out of there, Hey, do you want to buy
a shirt?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Man, where were you before I went in when I
didn't have a fucking shirt? Where were you? Yeah you weren't. Yeah,
I don't want the shirt. The event's over, I'm going home.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Or you know what I did. Yeah. Yeah, they did
a couple with the jus Yeat shirts for a while there.
I think they were doing like different colors based upon
cities associated with sports teams. But they probably could have
done more with that.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Oh yeah, for a while with like he would wear
it was a heel, he would wear the local jersey.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, I mean, and they're doing that now with his
with his uh his retirement tour. Every city that he
goes into the shirt matches whatever their local sports team.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Genius marketing, genius.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Anyway, I'm ready for the next match.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yep. So next match, Real Ripley facing Raquel Rodriguez in
a street fight. And they did they even call it
a Ria street fight or something street fight.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
They call it the Red Boulevard street fight.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Why were the stones and they're not casting any steps?

Speaker 5 (27:06):
I tested. I texted my my, uh my co host,
and I said, I don't see any stones or akas.
I don't So this is in a hot fight.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I oh, go ahead, Drey, I was going to get
into it.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh no, good, good, you got okay.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
So we have cat woman versus cat Woman. There's black
latex outfits man, gotta be hot in that gotta be hot.
I just picture of Ria because hers is like more
of a shinier outfit. Her just walking by, it's all squeaky. Uh.

(27:42):
I did enjoy the Uh. I did enjoy this fucking match.
Man who says that Raquel and Ria can't put on
a good match together did the chair shots to the face.
I guess we We talked about this in the discord,
but I guess now chair shots are basically throwing chairs
at people. Yeah, that's the new Yeah. The part where

(28:11):
Rhea was tied up in the ropes and getting whacked
in the dam's ribs with that kendostick O man, even
I was like, my my stomach was like I'm feeling that, dude.
I love the one spot where Ria tries to jump
off the I think it's like the top rope and
then Raquel catches her into a power bomb. Maybe that

(28:33):
was outside the ring, but that was pretty impressive. Like
Raquel is like one of the few women on the
Ross who can, like, you know, whatever Ria throws at her,
it's like, you know I can, Yeah, dude, she can
take it, Like you know, she could run the ropes
and like stand there and take it. So I thought
that's you know, this was gonna be definitely good match,

(28:54):
and it was, and we got the the belt smacks
Man had taken off that belt, that belt from Spencer's
gifts or whatever. It looks like throwing with all the
holes in it, that thing that had no wind resistance. Man,
that thing was just fucking swinging. All you heard, the
thing was swinging. She she beat her ass a couple

(29:15):
of times, and I feel like that's probably the receipt
for the kendo sick. But then again I was like maybe,
but like she whooped her ass with that belt, waly
crap I did not enjoy. There's a few spots I
did enjoy. Okay, So instead of breaking the table, they
broke the cover to the table, like with the logo

(29:38):
on it. That made it made no sense. But what
also didn't make sense?

Speaker 5 (29:47):
You know?

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, I didn't get that, Like why didn't we put
them through the table? Was it just because these they
just didn't want the table busted, saving it for another match?
I don't know, but but yeah, like the the way
they had it set up, like she was she was
not really was not looking behind her as she was

(30:08):
about to do that spot, and I was like, holy crap,
like you better clear that because if not, like for Kels,
the spine is going to go right on that barrier
to snap her back in half.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
But she she.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Cleared it, you know, she put her through it. But
then we had that weird table spot at the end,
like some mattress and they had kind of some weird endings,
and that this one had a weird one. They they
the table had one leg and they set it on
the top rope and they had the one leg kind
of down pinned in between the ropes, which I thought
was kind of clever. And then they stood on top

(30:41):
of the table, which was kind of like parallel to
the top of the rope so that you don't really
get any higher. And they didn't break the table, you know,
I guess she did. Reid did her finish her, and
you know, it was a good spot, but like the
whole table thing was probably not even necessary. It had
been cooler if the table was on the ground. Maybe
that was the initial plan before the light broke, I guess,

(31:05):
and very predictable. We said rock sand would show up,
right rock Sand Prez definitely happened, and even further they
ran with the storyline on Monday Night Raw where Rock
sand Prez takes a lift Morgan's title and just weasels
her way into Judgment Day. But also before I move on,

(31:26):
before you guys take over, I will say it also
was a relief. Every table that came out did not
have a slim GYM logo. Not once did I think
about slim GYM. No Kendo sticks with labels, no steel chairs,
you know, no, dude, it was it was fuck dare
if I say it enjoyable? The Saudi Show had small

(31:49):
things that I enjoyed, and that was one of them. Drake,
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
They don't need the sponsors, No, not what.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
We give you fifty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Don't you bring now one of them goddamn sponsors over here?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Is that how much it takes for WW to be like,
all right, no sponsors fifty mil?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Huh okay, yeah, So I mean this match, the match
itself was good. This is probably the best match I've
seen out of Roquel Rodriguez since she went to the
main roster. Easily, I agree, easily the best match. She said,
So she did a lot to show that, you know,

(32:30):
she can actually have a good match, and she's not
just cannon fodder for the other strong women on the
main roster. That being said, I did not like the
fact that Ria won. I mean, I get it. Ria
super babyface right now, so she gonna win like ninety

(32:53):
percent of her fucking matches against anybody who win a champion,
and maybe they needed her to win to justify her
coming out on Raw Monday the challenge EO for the
World Heavyweight Champion for the Women's World Championship again which
sidebar EO Sky has not defended that title since WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Dude, that's fucking what.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
The fun crazy?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Here we are? We're giving ship to like guys like
brock Lessener and stuff when he was champion, Like here,
she's on the active roster and she's backstage.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, they've barely not barely shown her on TV. Got
her freaking anyway, Let me not get distracted before I
go off on the tangent Back to the match. So, yeah,
like I said, I did not like this winning. And
to me, it would have made more sense if if
rock Sand showing up would have aided Raquel winning the match,

(33:56):
and then they would have made more sense for him
to be like Hey, you helped Raquel Robert just beat
Real Ripley. Welcome to the Judgment Day. Not like, yo,
you showed up and got your ass kicked that we
still lost, but come on in anyway like that just
just kind of seems like, Okay, well you a loser

(34:17):
with the rest of us, but we all got gold,
so come on in like that part of that part
of the storyline doesn't make much sense.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
But this match didn't help anyone's storyline whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Help nobody's storyline.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Real winning didn't help anyone.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
No, didn't help anyone. That didn't really help Ria other than,
like I said, just provide an excuse for her to
show up on Raw and demand to challenge to challenge
EO for the women's world title, which I feel like
she probably could have done that in any fucking way
because Real Ripley over as fuck so or they could

(34:58):
have at least or they got, you know, two weeks,
they could have held a number one contenders match or
something between her and somebody found another way. That was
my biggest gripe with it. And like I said, when
you already brought up the table spot or whatever the
hell that setup was on the side at the beginning
of the match, which made no sense because it was

(35:18):
just the announcers a top of the's now only the
announces table between barricades for no fucking reason other than
just hey, throw your opponent through. This made no sense.
But setting all that aside, the match was still a

(35:38):
good match, and it was a very good It was
a good street fight match too. You know, the only
thing this match, that match probably didn't have was blood
in it, which you know, wwe ain't there yet as
far as women bleeding, So I don't.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Think they're allowed to biley out there.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Not intentionally. Yeah, definitely not allowed to bleed intentionally.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
We're talking about color.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile over in a you better fucking bleed.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
My my my issue with with the match, where was
just the the ending, like you guys say with the
Avalanche rip Tide. My problem with it was that Raquel
loses to every other woman with a finisher that's not

(36:34):
even that it doesn't come close to the original rip Tide,
and really Rhea had to finish her with the Avalanche
rip Tide. It's just it just doesn't make sense because
she loses, she she loses to roll ups and other stuff,
and you had to do all this stuff to beat Raquel.
Come on, they should have been building her up Raquel

(36:55):
for a long time to justify the Avalanche rip Tide.
And it's just like stuff like that that I have
issues with when it comes to wrestling. There's just no
need for anything like that.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I get that point, but I would argue that the
fault isn't in Rea needing the Avalanche riptide to beat Raquel,
but rather all those other mediocre when finishes and pinfalls
that Raquel took in the past she should have never
been taking, which I think was some of the point

(37:29):
that you were making that Yet she should have getting
built up more before this point. But now the fact
that they're here now, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
hold that against them being here now, but they just
now that this is where they're at. This is where
they need to stay with Raquel. She came going from

(37:51):
taking an Avalanche riptide to lose to uh, you know,
real Ripley, and then, you know, two weeks from now,
freaking Ivy. Now Ivy Nile is hitting her with a
freaking you know, uh backslide for the three for a
three count.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, you can't do that. That's always been
the issue with how w W book served their talent
is every everything's so lopsided. There's no there's no balance
between wins and losses there, right, she.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Should she should be shed be should really Raquel should
be because looked at as one of the most dangerous women
on the roster, she'd be should be looked at just
as dangerously as a Naya Jacks or Ria or any
of the other big women. But she seems to be
the one that's like, I mean, she she big, but

(38:46):
you can get you can get her. She seems like
the big easy win.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
I do want to say I give kudos to the
ref in this match because the ref, you know, when
when they did the avalanche rip tight, he was holding
onto the table because it was very very flimsy. And
then the other spot was when when they when they
threw each other in the stairs and then with the
steel stairs on the side of the the ring, the

(39:12):
ref was held onto the stairs because if that if
those stairs would have fallen, they would have busted someone's head.
Because that corner almost hit I can't remember who was,
but that corner almost hit one of the girls. And
that would have just tore them.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
They could almost hit Raquel because she was the one
who took the drop car. Yeah yeah, the face and yeah,
you're right, the referee held on to it to keep
it from falling off the apron onto her.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Yeah, we forget how important, how important these these refs are. Man,
Sometimes they can make or break some of the matches.
And we'll talk about that and later match.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Although in the street fight you could almost argue maybe
that damn stairs should have fallen on her.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Sell the hardcore I would love that.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
That's how a w thinking. So any other thoughts on
this match, I just.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
I enjoyed everything. But that's just one minor detail. That's it.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, I mean I had fun with this match, if
that's how I can sum it up. I had fun
for sure.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Agreed. So next match we had Sammy Zay facing Carrying
Cross and a singles match, which for some stupid ass
fucking reasons, Well I'm gonna say some stupid ass fucking reason.
We all know why. Because Saudi Arabia, Sam's ain't got

(40:39):
the damn win. Yep. Because he's about as close to
the hometown hero as they got in WWE. Right now, so,
like I said, in our.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Tradition, Oh dude, I remember man Man Sam and uh
who was after him? Yeah, it's just man. Sorry remember Yeah?
Then they fired them both. You know. Those guys were like, yeah, dude,

(41:11):
my job is secure at least two days, two days
out of the year. Man, it's my time is shine.
My job is secure.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Noop, They said, nope, we got one of y'all. It
looks like us we'll need you. Oh man.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
This was another case of uh the bron person one yep,
at least for the marks.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
For the marks, absolutely, because no fucking reason for Sammy's
ain't to win other than they're in Saudi. He the hometown. Ye,
no reason for carrying across with all this supposed momentum
that he has, all this fans support. It's almost like
they're doing it in spite of They're like, yeah, we

(42:01):
know the fans like you. Yeah, we know the fans
support you. Fuck that, we're gonna bury you because of it.
It's almost like that's how it feels. We're gonna show
you off on TV to make the fans happy and
then just make you take l's and look dumb because
you are not what we want, right, now you can almost

(42:27):
argue that they're doing the same damn thing with Ron
Killing's right now.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I just think we're gonna get back to the Ron
Killings storyline after I don't know, Yeah, I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
The question though, is what is the storyline? All he's
done is to show up and Johns need to get
your ass out here. I'm driving now, like, like he's Ron,
but he's just as dumb as our truth was.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Johnson him first, how man, because he's been calling him
out and he hasn't come out.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, he's been calling him out, and he's also ran
up and attacked him. But I don't know, I just
feel like that storyline has not moved anywhere since he
came back. Yeah, I just think I'll starting to see
Ron is just a no different from our truth. No,
Like I said, how many times you got to come
out every week and say I'm driving now.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Well, how far might be a long drive? Calm down?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
At some point, at some point you start to sound
like a fucking idiot. I say a little slow and simple.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
And the only reason why I say patience is because
right now you have to put butts and seats for
Summer Slam and the only way you can do that
right now for two nights is to have Cody seen
I personally, I think I I think we talked about
this last time I was on the show. Is my
wish is that Ron Killings is the one that takes

(43:56):
the belt from Sina, and you built it so so
slowly so that the crowd can get back into him
and get used to Bron Killings as opposed to, you know,
leaving truth behind. So you build that little story little
by little, week by week where he's kind of find
him and kind of like where they were doing with
the twenty four to seven Belts, where he's kind of

(44:17):
just all around the arena things like that, you know
something something along the line and then they meet up
at I don't know, uh, Survivor's series or something like that.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I would love to believe in that.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I mean, like, yeah, me too, Like.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Just like what I'm seeing now with them, the same
thing with Cross taking it back to the match. It
just seems like ww's being spiteful right now.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Yeah. With with Cross, sometimes I think like everything points
in the direction like this guy should be pushed. But
then you know, you think, and it's just my thinking
is like maybe there's some kind of attitude issue in
the background that we're just we just don't know because
he gets blacklisted almost everywhere.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
He goes mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
But I feel like if there was an attitude problem
or something like that, they wouldn't even bother putting him
on TV, even with the fan backlash, that if he
has some sort of attitude issue, with some sort of
attitude problems like that, they would just truly bury him.
They wouldn't even bother putting him on TV. They would
just like go to fuck home. As deep as their

(45:27):
roster is, they have no reason to actually use him
if they don't want.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
To see I look at it from the point of
view of like when Russe russaid Dave was the thing
with Vince, they had to put him out there because
he was so over. But russev was definitely attitude because
he had the same issue in ady W. He didn't
get booked because he was a terrible attitude backstage. So
that's why I kind of compare these two in the

(45:54):
same spot because it doesn't make any reason, It doesn't
make any sense why Karen Crosses can be pushed right,
And that's that's where I look at it because obviously
the fans want it, the the locker room wants it.
It's they have they can print money with care across.
His music's awesome, his promos are amazing.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Don't forget about his hot wife.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
You know. It's yeah, I mean that's ghostuf saying, but
it just doesn't make sense. Man, I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
But the one I think one noteworthy difference between Cross
and Russef is Russef Day and all that stuff. That
ship was happening on Raw. That shit was happening on
you know, the main program every week. These crowd reactions
and stuff that we've been that have been swelling up
for Cross have been happening on main event the show.

(46:47):
Don't nobody watch. All we've really gotten from him over
Raw has been backstage segments, you know, and you know,
little bits here and there, briefly here and there since WrestleMania.
But if they really wanted to just put akebas to that,
they could just not show him on TV, keep him

(47:08):
on main event and like, yeah, you get get Pops
on main events, So the funk would Ain't nobody watching
the main event? Don't like here, ain't no storylines being
told on main event, like they could easily bury him,
but they're still choosing to put him on television on
Raw and even go as far as booking this match
for for uh, you know, for for for for Night

(47:32):
of Champions, But to what end? It seems. That's that's
why it feels like it's it's spiteful, like, oh, y'all
like this guy, Okay, we're gonna put him out here
and he ain't gonna accomplish shit. We're gonna put him
out here, let y'all cheer for him and make him lose,
and then we're gonna look back at y'all like, see too.

(47:53):
He wouldn't know that Tojo, he couldn't get over because
y'all booked him that way. Y'all booked him pitifully. Yeah,
y'all booked them terribly as hell. So of course it's
you know, this fat, this thing that you know y'all
are trying to make into a or portray as it's
just a passing moment or a passing fad will become

(48:14):
so because you book it to be. So I know,
it seems I don't.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Know Mad Max Suit, That's what That's why that's my
positive take on this good.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Because at least he's still out here doing God's work
all waters past Monday, beating the funk out of samse
with that lad pipe. You know, so I still appreciate that.
But where is it gonna go? You know? Is he
still attacking sam'se Ain't just for them to have another
match that he loses.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah, well, I will believe.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I believe that w W believes in Cross when he
actually wins something, When he actually wins a match against
a noteworthy person the right, then I'll have faith that
they might actually be doing something with him. As long
as he's having backstage segments and losing matches when it matters,

(49:09):
then ww' is just being spiteful. And as far as
I'm concerned, right.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I think this match was kind of like right where
it should be too, on the cars, like right in
the middle.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
You know, I can't even remember what they did in
this match, that's how much I didn't care for it.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, I mean it, Karen Crosses pretty much dominating the match,
the whole match.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I mean, even to the point the fuck out of
Sam's Ain't in this match.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah, he got I love when he got him. He
got him with those German suplexes man just tossing his
ass around the ring. He got him in the cross
jacket at their Blue Thunderbomb, which never finishes anybody, but
I think is a lot cooler of a finisher than
the halluva kick. But yeah, he had him in the

(49:58):
crossjack and they did the whole you know, oh my god,
he's he's out, and they raised the three the hand
three times. He hulks up, you.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Know, speaking of that part, when the fuck we bring
back the three count for the arm check?

Speaker 3 (50:13):
I know, that's what obviously, when that.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Should come back. How many times we've seen people being
sleeper holes and that ongo up one time fall to
the mat and they call for the bell whenever they
want to. But Sammy, somehow he gets the privilege of
a three count.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Right right, yeah, and then you know it just it
turns so quickly the match. Cross had the match and
then just turned so quickly from a roll up to
a to a halluva kick, and it.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Was over one halluva kick and that's it.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Dude, guy has ass whopped the whole match one halluva kicking,
Like well he done? Yeah, like fucking disrespect.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
That move is so protected and it's so dumb, right.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, who lou kick, it's a hell of a kick.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
We know what says. The Blue thunderbomb is by far superior, right.
I think the problem is he can't. The problem with
it is that he can't do it to everybody, which is,
you know you want to finish it, you can do everybody.
That's the only reason.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, I mean as a finisher, I'll admit I'm more
a little more partial to the Halluver kick because it
has more impact, Like the Blue thunderbomb. It's a it's
a slam. I mean, I'm not buying somebody of Sammy's
Ay's size beating people with a blue thunderbarb. The fact
that he pulls that damn move off, honestly kind of

(51:39):
bugs me to a certain extent.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Like has a belly to belly finisher? Dude?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, which ate her finisher? No more trying to make
this rose plant thing work, which ain't it? Honestly, Bailey
should probably just go to the freaking Randy Savage ebo.
The rose plant don't look good. The belly to Bailey
or Bailey, the belly whatever whichever one it is, that
don't hit like it used to, especially not in today's
women's division with the moves they be pulling out. They ass,

(52:09):
I don't know, she might be she might, she might
the old fashioned elbow.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Drop and man, now we're we're seeing moves like the
soul snatcher, right.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Soul snature, the ko d rip tide.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah, women are bringing new, better fucking moves like step
up your game and ship.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
She can't even really, she can't even really hit. The
elbow drop is the finisher when goddamn Kyrie saning out
here with the insane elbow shipping all over everybody. Elbow drops.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Yeah, a lot. There's a lot with Bailey we need
to improve, starting with her moves and her music.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Calm down, calm down, called down, just.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Her moves, interview, inner music, that's all.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
So much on this show.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Now.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Yeah, she improved her out for this week on RAW.
And I approve, Oh.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
My lord, I approve. I always approve it. Being this office.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Was just a little when.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
I when I was at RAW a few weeks ago
when she attacked Becky, I mean, I got last I
got last minute tickets, and you know, we set at
the way top and I could see that thing from
the hell I was from that's how that's how nice
that was.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
One day she gonna wake up and just decided to
break the Internet. One day she's just gonna wake up
and decide, like, you know what, fuck this ind ofnet,
I'm breaking it.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
Today, mm hmm, and I will be here for it.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
When she decided to do it.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
We should probably get back to this paper review before
we get sidetracked by Bailey's big ass booty.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Give a funk about sorry as Sammy's name getting his
bulls went over carrying cross. I agree.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Before we move on, I will say there was a.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Time Sami's privilege needs to stop.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
I will say there was a point in time when
Bailey and Sasha Banks were tactic partners and I was like, damn,
if only Bailey would get into the same type of
shorts that Sasha Banks wears No never.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Happened apparently did to a Beonce concert a few years ago. Yeah, yep,
too bad to one picture she took was over her
sitting down. She knew not to get a picture standing up,
and then it would have broke right then.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Sh.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
So how much this match mattered? Yep, we all were
here talking about Bailey instead of fucking Sammy's ay and
his damn privilege. Hey. Moving on to the next match,
we had Solo Socoa facing Jacob Patu for the United
States Championship and I'm pretty sure to everyone's surprised, Solo one.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
What right, you're crazy? Man?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Is our new United States Championship thanks to the help
of I don't forgot that. J. C. Matteo. Yeah, a
returning Tongaala and a debuting Hikuleu who was apparently going
by the dumbest fucking name since Giant Gonzalez where they're

(55:34):
now calling him apparently Tala Tanga. I wonder why he's taller,
because he's taller than everybody else in the fucking blood line. Ah, dude,
fucking brain cells did it take to come up with
that stupid ass name? A damn did they really? I

(55:55):
feel like they thought of that name right before he
went out to the ring. That sounds like a They're like,
all right, you're ready to go, go go. He's already
out there, and somebody was like, wait, what the fuck
do we call him? And it was like ship.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Oh, So, not to burst your bubble, but that's his
first name is Tala. His real first name is Tala
but you're but what you said makes perfect sense.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Yeah, it sounds like some Vince would have done, like
what's your name?

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Everybody's real name?

Speaker 5 (56:24):
Me?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Well, yeah, tick off, everybody has a great real name.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Louis Louis. No, yeah, yeah, you're tall, some bitch Kaya Tala.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Sometimes he told me the name like John Cena and
you can just make that work.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Yeah, you're born with.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
The name Tala and you end up being seven feet
tall and you just need to keep that to yourself.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Six foot eight stounds. So he's a he is a
big guy, you know.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
It's yeah, his his name is spelled t a U
l a as opposed to the t A t A
l a as the yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
And ain't nobody at that announce table culture enough to
try to put the nuance on that.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
The worst part was was Michael Cole watching the name.
He had no idea what to call.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
This is Tom.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Until the the post press conference, Right, didn't Solo when
Solo want to reveal what his name was with me?

Speaker 5 (57:25):
No, Michael, Michael Cole said it, but he watched it.
It took him a while. Yeah, Michael Cole was I
defend I usually defend Michael Cole because I definitely I
enjoy him, but today, this, this this night was not
good for him, wasn't his night.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
That just leads more evidence in my opinion, that they
thought of that name in the fucking moment. God, he
was already halfway to the ring and they were like, ship,
what are we call it? Him? And Michael Cole might
have muted this Mike for a second, Yeah, what the
fuck is his name? Yeah, I don't know, I don't
know bs for a while, we'll get back to you.

(58:00):
And he was probably in the middle of talking and
somebody just wisped in, tell t huh what is talented?
What the huh? Yeah, that's probably how I went.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
He could could have been one of those things where
as he said it out loud, he realized, how.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Tell me what it's I'm really saying this, you're staying
it while simultaneously thinking to yourself, am I really saying this? Ship? Yeah?
At this point, unfortunately, it's too late to put the
toothpaste back into tube. Yep.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
I just like here in uh, Jacob, you tell the
ref to shut your ass up, bitch. It was like
right in the right in the very beginning, and told
the rough to shut your ass up, and then I
think about it, Uh, all right, that one didn't have
a female ref. That was the last match, But yeah,

(58:56):
that was pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah, I did. The match itself was actually pretty good.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Yeah, very entertaining.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Solo still mocking the ship out of people, which I
fucking love that.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
I love Solo so much.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Solo did not look weak in this match at all.
He looked genuinely strong against Jacob. Jacob looked strong against Solo,
taking that beat down and making his comeback and you know,
fighting off the rest of the Whoever, I don't want
to call them bloodline two point zero, like three two

(59:31):
point five.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
What I see online is everyone calling him.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
The three point oh, I guess with a lowercase be
whatever the fun we want to call him there?

Speaker 5 (59:44):
Oh lord?

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah yeah, But I mean everybody looked good, Everybody looks strong,
and we got the surprise again finish of Solo now
being US Champion. So now we get Jacob and the
cha to get his title back, which I think I
think works great for both of them. I think, as

(01:00:06):
I think Jacob becoming US Champion was a little too soon.
They were just kind of, you know, capitalizing on his
popularity in the moment to throw a belt on him,
and it was probably sooner than he should have been champion.
Solo needs some redemption, He needs some rehabilitation as far
as being credible, because ever since he started talking, it's

(01:00:27):
just been downhill for him ever since. So him getting
this win, he can now have a run as champion,
and hopefully, hopefully it's not just exclusively focused on Jacob
and Jimmy and whoever else steps up to challenge them.
I would like to see him be a right, I
like to see somebody else kind of you know, jump

(01:00:49):
in the mix and let Solo put the beat down
on them a little bit too. As as champion. Obviously
this is gonna be eventually gonna get back to say,
Jacob and them, wuldn't mind somebody else interjecting themselves into
the picture in the meantime or in between you just
to kind of buy more time and to help Solo

(01:01:09):
firmly establish himself as US champion.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Yeah, bring it back as the TV title and have
them defended every week.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Yeah, I mean, like it's it's nice at the elevation,
but the attention that the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Arguably, yes, that would work to a certain extent if
they were really committed to building it up like that,
But I don't think they would. I don't know that
Solo is the person for that. You need you for
something like that, You would need a guy who's like
a real good and ring workhorse.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
To accept all the challenges. First of all. That's like
like like Scena, like Sina did.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Yeah, that that too. You know, maybe if this was
like Damian Priest's US Champion, then I could see something
like that happening every week.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yeah, any other thoughts on this go ahead?

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
My my One of the favorite things that I liked
about this was, uh, the the Titan trons. Jacob Fattou
coming out with that ginormous Titan tron looked amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
I wish I wish we had that back in other pols.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Yeah, and that was another subtle thing that I did
notice on this one, Like, this is the first time
we seen the screen of that size ever since they've downsized,
you know, from raw, because you know it used to
be raw SmackDown like that every day and week, but
ever since they downsized. Yeah, seeing it that big, it
makes it feel more important, Yes, makes it feel Yeah,

(01:02:51):
that was a nice touch on this show was the
Giant Titan tron.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Damn are we saying that Saudi knows how to present
a fucking w W wrestling match no event, yes, match,
no pl Saudi?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
And this wasn't really so much Saudi is doing more
so than Saudi's undoing of what t k O has
been doing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I know, right, They're like, we're going to change all
of this.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
That's a that's a very good point. I love that absolutely, right, Sadi.
When they go to Saudi, the Prince wants one thing,
and that's what he's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Gonna exactly exactly like the money I'm giving y'all how
this ship gonna be.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
This is why I asked for you, because you know,
to wrestle at my first Saudi show.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
So I want him.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
I'm giving you, I'm paying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
You all this time, right, I did not give you
all fifty million dollars for slim gyms and Prime Energy drinks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I love when we get Jacob being a guy of
that size doing the swanton bomb, you know, doing a
Jeff Hardy swanton bomb that I think he I think
it was him who took the souplex. I thought his
damn neck broke. What else I want to point I

(01:04:12):
had on here? Uh oh yeah, dude, uh solo young him,
you're all gas, no brains. I thought that was pretty funny.
And then when when we did get the blood Line,
the New Blood Line come out, you know, Jacob like
cleaning house on these guys, and then you know the
way he just dives up over those ropes, you know,

(01:04:33):
not not testing those ropes. You know, I think it's
just cool a guy that side is doing that kind
of ship.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
He sold Spike at the end.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's the right me. He sold that finisher
so well. Uh And you know, now I'm kind of
curious to what's gonna go on with him and the
USOS because you know, he didn't want Jimmy us coming
out and helping him, which he did, and so you know,
with with the rumors of the USOS forming back together,

(01:05:06):
you know, where does Jacob Fartu go in all of this?
Is he like the new Blood the New Bloodline enforcer?
Because I kind of saw the enforcer, you know, in
Solo against Night, Like I was like, all right, like
this is the old solo this is like and they
said this is his first solo title and that's not true.
He was North American Champion when he was in the

(01:05:27):
blood Line, the NXT North Americans. Yeah yeah, main title
and the main roster.

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Like but yeah, definitely not his first. Uh but yeah,
I'm excited to see where this goes now that it
just keeps getting bigger and bigger, like this this tam Bloodline,
this is more and more samoans Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
Like I said, the solo taunting everybody when at the
post the post show where he's like four letters one
word stop. I love That's why I love so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Because he's he has a personality. He does he does,
he has, he has real personality. When he finds a
way to integrate that into who he is as a character,
that may be the thing to take him to the
next level. Because it was this thing that he's doing
now you could tell he's performing, but you can tell
it's not really him. Yeah, you know, trying to play

(01:06:26):
like they're having fun.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
Yeah right, and he's definitely having fun with it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Because we were so starting to have fun with it now.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Yeah, which he's organic.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Cold faced, uh you know, hands crossed, arms crossed, you know,
silent type like there was when he was in the
blud line, there was a hot minute. He didn't say
anything for like months, he didn't say anything. He had
no lines, and I was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Fine with that, and he had and he had that
aura to him. Yeah, but obviously that's not gonna last forever.
Like even Kane started talking at some point, So that's
that's never gonna last for ever for anybody. But yep,
it's a difference between you know, you talking and bringing
your personality through in what you're saying, versus you just

(01:07:13):
trying to play a character. And him I think at
the beginning of Bloodline two point zero was him just
trying to play this character like I'm this boss, I'm
this that, and YadA YadA. But it's not solo. It's
not the it's not the guy bringing himself out through

(01:07:34):
the character. Yes, and now I think we're seeing that
a bit more of him now with some of the
trash talk and he does in the ring, some of
the uh what he says in the postmatch past conference,
the taunting and all that stuff. Yeah, you can tell
that's really solo.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
I bet him. Between I would imagine probably between him
and his brothers, he's probably the biggest shit talker of
the three.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
I was gonna say that, I was literally thinking about that.
He's because he's he's the little brother that's bigger than
the big brothers. You know, you know he talks ship
to them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Right, so you know he had to get picked on,
you know, they're the twins. Yeah, you know he outside, No,
he got picked on a lot, so he had to
be away to talk ship. Yep. I'll bet he's probably
a hell of a ship talker. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
I can't wait to see what they're doing, to be honest,
But like, you know, it's also like on a side note,
like just the whole fact that the past few years,
like they've just been feuding with each with each other,
and it just as a whole that's gotta be fun
as hell, right, Like you're getting paid to not only
like leave out your dream being a professional wrestler, but

(01:08:47):
if you're having fun with your family, your whole family,
and like now you got more and more members of
your family, it's just gotta be fun, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
Yeah, because you know that growing up obviously they would
these moves on each other. This is all stuff they've
done before in the past when they were kids. Because
they grew up they grew up in the business, they
knew how to tell stories. They've they're probably redoing every
single thing they've done before themselves, which is amazing. Not
everyone can say that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Nope, so good ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Yeah, I was for the first time in a long
time solo Soko is interesting again.

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
So moving on to the next match, we had Storm
of the X Men facing Mystique of the Brotherhood for
Queen of the Ring tournament final, which was won by
Storm of the x Men aka j Cargill when she

(01:09:51):
defeated Oscar.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
You're not wrong Batch defeat.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
It was only a botched feet. Well, I'll take that back.
I didn't see it live. I did not see it live,
so I watched it. I watched the replay, so it's
possible that maybe in the replay it was edited. So
what I saw was I could tell that it did
not look right even in the angle that I saw

(01:10:19):
in the replay. But in the scope of the entire match,
I really don't give a shit about that. That whatever finish,
it's minor because and I say that because a lot
of people are using that to once again attack J

(01:10:41):
car Gill, and I think, quite frankly, this match is
probably the best match I've seen j Cargill have in WWE.
I think if you take away that finish, I think
this is the Even with the finish, this is the
best cleanest match I've seen her have in the WWE.

(01:11:06):
At no point in this match that I think she
looked lost. At no point did I see her, you know,
seeming like she was trying to work the match instead
of just having the match. She's knew where places were at.
She was selling great for OSCA. Like, I got nothing

(01:11:27):
but praise for Jake Cargill in this match, despite all
the criticism other people might want to throw out there,
I have nothing but praise for her in this match.

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
Exactly is amazing. So but you're you're right, You're right.
I think this is Jade Cargill's best, cleanest match. But again,
at the end of the day, people remember the finished
most and that's what bothers me about this, right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
People remember the finish for a while, Yes, because you
know what ain't nobody talking about now, h Randy Orton
versus Randy Orton versus Gunter last year that had a botch, Yes,
and people talked about it in the moment and within

(01:12:18):
a few weeks had moved on. Sure, So yeah, people
are gonna talk about it now, and maybe because it's
Jay Cargill, they're gonna latch onto it a little bit
more and try to use that to again bash her more.
By SummerSlam, people would have moved on.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Yeah, unless she watches again, which is the problem, which
is like, you're you're right, you're one hundred percent right.
But if she keeps watching, that's all they're gonna remember.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
For Yeah, but remember Ni Jackson was like that and
a little bit more work.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
Yes, she got better, she got better.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Now we're not spending every I'm not spending every episode
bashing on Nia Jackson because she fucked up exactly she did.
I have honest to say this the whole year. I
have not said that she destroyed anybody this year. She
did not put anybody on the injured roster on purpose.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
So yeah, no, But Jake Cargo, she's she has, she's
she's she's it, she's he has the entire package. Like
she looks. Her promos are pretty pretty decent. She's every
time I see Jade Cargo, I'm excited to see her.
So like, she she has everything going. I don't know
what they do behind the scenes, if she's working on

(01:13:29):
her craft, because some female wrestlers don't do that. So hopefully,
I just want to see the best of Jade Carg
still to come.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
I think she becomes champ.

Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
When she becomes champ, oh my god, it's gonna be
so great.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Yeah. I think she's clearly working on her craft. I mean,
if you look at her just from last year to now,
or from when she first debuted in w W Eatson now,
she looks markedly better now. Yeah, in the ring, So
she's clearly working on her craft and she's clearly getting better.

(01:14:03):
And like I said, I see it. I think a
lot there are too many wrestlers who we've seen having
to develop with this much this bride of a light
or this larger a lens on them in real time.
A lot of the people that we think are are
newer to us have had years in the smaller circuits,

(01:14:29):
or years in the indies, years in you know, NXT
or something else like that, where they got to make
all those mistakes without the entire wrestling world watching them
and talking about it and criticizing every little thing. Jay
Cargo hasn't had that pretty much from the moment she
got into this, she was fast. She got like what

(01:14:51):
one year I think of training for. She was fastball
to AEW and immediately thrown on TV in front of everybody,
and then had them a few years in AW and
then that ends. She comes to WWE and a couple
of months of down into PC and then boom right

(01:15:12):
on the main roster. No NXT time, no, none of that,
just immediately boom all the eyes and she's learning and
she's developing and she's growing in real time. And she
still has I think less than ten years of wrestling experience, right,

(01:15:32):
so I don't know. I'm to me, I'm far more
patient with her than I think other people are. It's
because I'm not judging her by the same standard that
I'm judging other wrestlers with more years and more experience.
I'm here for the journey, I'm here for the growth.
I expect mistakes to happen. As long as I see

(01:15:55):
development and I see improvement, I'm okay with it. And
That's what I've seen from her continuously. So where she's
at now, I'm okay with it. And is she gonna
I was gonna say, could she be? Will she become
champion at some point. Absolutely, we know that. Yes, but
I've already and she does, she does, she does need to.

(01:16:17):
But I've already said where I think that's gonna go.
And I think I don't think she's gonna become champion
the way we think the way some people think she will.
As of yet, my prediction is still that she goes
on to face Tiffany Stratton as Summer Slam. She will
win and defeat Tiffany Stratton and become champion and then

(01:16:38):
immediately be cashed in on by Naomi, who will then
take the title. Perfect and Naomi will become the champion
coming out of Summer Slam, and she will get the run,
and then it'll be about Jade chasing Naomi, and maybe
Jay does become the one to d thrown Naomi, or
maybe it's somebody else, maybe it's a Bianca or somebody

(01:16:58):
that comes in, but Jade will be the chaser I
think for the rest of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Yeah, I mean I I I always say, like, if
you're rooting for somebody, it's always when they're in the chase,
you know, because that's how it was with Cody. Well,
we were all behind him during the chase of the title.
But once he got it, you know, once he got
into his run, it kind of got kind of lackluster,
like the fun was gone.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Like I.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Pretended to be in the chase still when he won.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Yeah, very true, Cody, Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Yeah, people did not appreciate his his title run the
way I think they should have. It was that that
come down from the high.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yeah, and Jade's getting a nice slow build and I
like it. And you mentioned it, uh Dre on the
discord that you know, between the three women that were together,
you know, Naomi is the money in the Bank winner,
you know, Bianca was the ward Rumble winner, and now
Jade's the queen, the Queen of the rank. That's awesome.

(01:18:11):
That's that's awesome for that group, Like each of them
have a accolade of some kind of add to their
their repertoire. Yeah, it's a huge accomplishment, especially like when
it comes Slammy Awards season, you know, like that's pretty big.
But I, I mean I enjoyed this match, like, like
I didn't see really many botches, Like I watched it

(01:18:32):
later too, So maybe the botch that's been discussed about
the weird ending. Maybe that's what I'm not getting, uh
because I did watch it like later at night. Uh,
putting putting her with the right person is what made
this the good match. Putting her with Oscar, it was brilliant.
Oscar is a lot smaller than her, but she made

(01:18:55):
it work with all these unique holds and and the
stiff kicks. You know, you had the strong style that
she was using, and I fucking enjoyed that shit. So,
like I was, I was on board, Like I was
believe that this match could have definitely gone either way,
but I was happy with the results. And you know,
Oscar's nothing to you know, sneeze at.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
There was a point where Oscar had like this long
running winning streak, you know, when she came up to
the main roster and like it was a big deal,
like Charlotte had to put her down at WrestleMania at
some point. But uh, this slow build for Jade is
going well, and I agree Dre like she's probably gonna
win her first title and it's gonna get snatched right

(01:19:38):
the hell away, and it sucks because nobody forgets your
first title win. You know, you never forget that first
title win. I had never forgot John Cena's first title win.
You know, I never forgot like Becky Lynch's first title win,
or you know, uh, just Sean Michael's first type win,

(01:20:01):
Like there's something about that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
First happened at Wrestleman. It's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Yeah, yeah, but like just anybody just that first time
achieving that that that status, Like you know, there's so
many who have tried to get there and failed, you know,
you know, like.

Speaker 5 (01:20:23):
God as Canna say, to your point, if if what
Dre says it's true, that's going to be a very
memorable first title win.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Oh yeah, and then just SummerSlam immediately has a snatched away,
it will definitely be memorable. And yeah, I think there's
something Obviously there's something to be said for somebody's first
title win, but there also are some title wins that

(01:20:53):
you could argue maybe aren't as memorable, but the the
body of work or maybe another title win at a
later point was a little bit more memorable. Like for example,
does anybody remember Brett Hart's first title win?

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
No, exactly. I'm pretty sure it was against Bob Backlin
if I'm not mistaken, I was.

Speaker 5 (01:21:23):
Thinking Bob Becklan, but he Bob Becklin beat him for
for the belt and then he won it back from
Bob Backlin. I remember because I used I used to
be I used to put my older brother in the
chicken wing, and I remember specifically that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
You could be right about that, and maybe and maybe that,
you know, further proves my point. The one that I
remember was him beating Bob Backlan, not whatever the he
whoever the hell he be the first time.

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
It's a great point because when you said that, I
immediately thought, you know, he won the world. Had a
few times, but my most memorable was when he when
he beats Sina And you're right, I love I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Yeah, that's crazy. Is go ahead?

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Oh yeah, go ahead, go ahead?

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
As I say. Jade's been signed to ww sins twenty
twenty three, and I feel like we still have so
much more like feuds and and just matches we haven't
seen yet that I want to see. I mean, that's
super exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
She has yet to have a real major, high profile
singles feud. Yeah yeah, she's aired it with the Big Three.
She was tag team with Bianca Bellair and she's just
now going on an extended singles run right, and I
think with Naomi is her first Yeah, a few with

(01:22:52):
Naomi is really her first major singles, her first singles
feud period really.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
Yeah, because I think that's what was like one of
my main concerns when she did sign with the companies, like, oh, ship,
they're gonna like fast track her and like it's just
and like, yeah, the casual fan or like strictly WW
fans not gonna know who she is and not gonna
attach to them as quickly, you know. Like but like

(01:23:21):
some of these a W stars that they're bringing in,
they're doing it right. Jade's been doing right. I think
Penta is another one that they're doing right. Like this
slow build of these new characters that I don't know
who they are even though they're a big deal somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
So yeah, I think that they what they need to
do with Jade has let her loose little, just like
you can't keep coddling too because if you look at
the match, her matches are small, short. This is this
was an eight and a half minute match, like let
her give her some time to you know, give me
some storytelling. Out is not not rush because this could

(01:23:57):
be the reason why she bought is because they're rush
her and some people can't really do that. You got
to give them time.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Yeah, I think that will and I agree with that
to a certain extent. But I think that will come
with time because when you when you get into a
longer match, there's a lot of nuance involved in that
to have a longer match and have it be interesting
and compelling for the entire duration of the match and

(01:24:25):
not it have it not have an empty space or
a big dead zone in the middle of it between
your initial start off and your build to the finish.
So I think as she develops and she learns more
and starts to pick up on more those more nuanced
aspects of matches and storytelling, then I think you'll get

(01:24:49):
longer matches from her. And like I said, some of
that you saw signs of in this match in her selling.
Part of I think part of being able to pull
off a larger a longer match is your ability to
sell for your opponents and make your opponent look good.
So that way, when you if you're the one slated

(01:25:10):
to have the comeback towards the finish, it means more so,
like I said, the way she was able to sell
for Oscar in this match, to me is a sign
of growth and a sign of development. And maybe as
that gets better, as she gets better at that, then
some of these matches will eventually start to become longer.

(01:25:36):
Like I wouldn't be surprised if her match with Tiffy
at SummerSlam, I wouldn't be surprised to see that match
get a good, solid fifteen minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
I mean they would have to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Yeah, especially being a title match.

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
Title match two nights, they have to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Yeah, yeah, aint but so many commercials.

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
Yeah, well I don't. I don't get commercials in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I get the I.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
Get those old school promos, video packages they used to do.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Uh yeah, I would give those two if I felt
like paying the extra for Peacock, but I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
Yeah, so I get it. I get everything through Netflix here,
so the same prices. I get everything. Which it's it's
refreshing because like like the promo they had for Oscar
and Dad, the video package, it was, it was great.
It got me excited that That's That's one refreshing thing
about you know, watching it on Netflix is these matches,

(01:26:34):
like for example, Sammy carrying Cross. I didn't care for it,
but the video package made me watch it, sit there
and watch it as opposed to go any you know,
bathroom breaking. They need to bring that back for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Yeah, I might need to get on that VPN game too,
because I was thinking about it myself, like Carlos was
telling you Wayne to get on that for a freaking
smack down.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Yeah, I don't realize now that you know, now that
the NBA Finals are over with, I have no reason
to keep YouTube TV except for SmackDown right now, like
I'm not watching shit else and now, granted, I'm gonna
pick it right back up soon as football season come
back around because I got to have my NFL said
they ticket, but I could get be a good probably

(01:27:22):
month or two break in between then, but fucking SmackDown.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Yeah, I watched.

Speaker 5 (01:27:29):
I watched SmackDown at what ten in the morning when
it came out on Netflix. I'm working watching SmackDown, so
I love it, and most VPNs give you thirty day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
For Yeah, i'might have to figure out something because yeah,
there's no reason for me. You're paying for this damn
YouTube TV for one fucking show.

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
A week, and you get NXT.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Yeah, well NXT's on CW. That's yeah, that's over. OHTA
over the end, over the air for Alarm Concern.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Yeah, but you can rewatch it on Netflix if you
miss it. You don't have to watch it live.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
Yeah, that is true because the song right now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Literally is.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
I usually I usually I usually watch raw SmackDown, like
the next day during when I'm working.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
I have to read about SmackDown or you know, watch
highlight videos. It sucks because it's like, I'm not we
discussed this that nausea, but like I'm not spending like
a ship little money just to watch SmackDown, just not
for SmackDown. And like I don't have Hulu, and like
apparently I have to have Hulu Live TV to even
watch the shorter episodes. Now, okay, that sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Too, Hulu Plus Live TV, which yeah, again, I would
maybe consider switching from YouTube TV to Hulu plus Live
TV except for NFL, and right now the NFL Sunday
ticket is exclusive to YouTube TV. I'll be thankful for

(01:29:10):
the day when that ship is no longer exclusive to
one thing, or you can just get it however you like.
But for now, it went from direct TV for all
those years to now it's YouTube TV. More money.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Yeah, it's all they want. Speaking of people who want
more money, let's talk about this main event.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Mm hmm ye main events. John Cena versus Cmpunk for
the WWE Championship. Yep, I still refuse to call it
undisputed because he got a whole other belt right there
on wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
Yeah, that's the dumbest name for it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Right, Just drop the fucking undisputed. Just call it the
fucking ww Championship.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Just just do it all.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
Is it a trademark thing that they're like the reason
why they have to keep calling it that or or
what is it?

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
I don't see why would be a trademark thing like
undisputed don't mean nothing special. It's still the w W Championship. Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
To me, it's just like a little I don't know,
like a little hint like hey, this titles, this title
is the better one, Like I don't see.

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
I hate that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
I hate a subtle thing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
But this is the no sense whatsoever to still be
calling that thing the undisputed w W Championship. I agree,
Universal championship is dead. You've got a whole other belt
On wrong. The World Heavyweight Championship just simplified w W
Championship and the World Heavyweight Championship. It worked just fucking

(01:30:54):
fine in two thousand and three.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
I mean it worked because you didn't have three hundred
and sixty plus year reigns or three hundred and sixty
plus day rains, you know what I mean. Back then,
Sina Orton were losing it every what fifty sixty days
things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
John had like one good lengthy reign of almost a year.
Other than that, yeah, most people were having it for
a few months at a time, and I loved it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
It made it made you want to watch every week
because you didn't know who was gonna win or wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
So yeah, I mean this match, it didn't suck, and
it actually actually said this was actually a pretty really
good match. It actually was a good match. Like them
two going at it. They did good work in the ring.
Johnson did a good job of selling. He didn't really

(01:31:54):
seem like he was playing it too safe or phoning
it in that much. Obviously, there was shenanigans abound towards
the end of the match, some of which added to
the match, some of which made no fucking sense looking
at you, Penza.

Speaker 5 (01:32:14):
See I disagree. That made perfect sense to me. Every
everyone sees the Penta thing as a running But it
wasn't a distraction from Braun.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
Yeah, but why Penza.

Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
Pen No, because that's that's who he's feuding with.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
But he okay, okay, listen, Jay's all right down.

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
Oh yeah, I know, Dre.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
When it took time to fucking strut down the damn ram, Dude,
while see us in there getting his fucking brains beating
in the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Ring, Penta's fucking dancing down the fucking ram. He's fucking
shaking hands and fucking fans and ship. He even had
time to say his fucking catchphrase.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Right mean, while seen in the ring getting pummeled.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
Again, you guys are looking at from the wrong point
of view. It's like it wasn't a run in to
save Sina. It was to distract Braun. That's why he
was doing all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
He couldn't distract Braun a little sooner save Seena maybe four.

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
But he wasn't there to save him though. It's what
I'm trying, is what I'm saying. He wasn't there what
everyone like, everyone says like they compare it to Jeff
Hardy coming out to saving Matt Hardy and him it's like,
it's not it's not the same thing. One was there
to save his brother, So you can't you can't put

(01:33:41):
them in the same in the same thing because it
was two different.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
I get the point. I get the point you're trying
to make. But even if he's there to distract braun Breaker.
By distracting braun Breaker, he's saving John Cena because that's
one less person humbling John Cena in the ring. So
he may not have ended up there with the intent like,
oh shit, Johnston is in trouble, let me come to

(01:34:05):
the rescue. It may have just been like bron Breaker
out there, I'm finna go get me a piece of that.
I get that, but it's still kind of it still
gives off the same impression though you make the run
in and you don't actually run in. Instead you're at
the top farming Aura, and then it's like, oh shit,
I forgot I'm supposed to be fighting somebody right now,

(01:34:27):
and then you run in there to fight. It's almost
like bron Breaker had to go up there and be like, hey, bitch,
he's supposed to be fighting me right now, He's like,
oh yeah, right, right right. I mean it was a
funny moment. Obviously it didn't ruin the match by any means,
but it was a funny moment. It was definitely funny
as hell. But like, but other other runnings did make sense,

(01:34:50):
like obviously the seth Rollins one. You know, I kind
of knew he wasn't gonna really cash in, but it
made sense because, as he said itself, as long as
he has breath in his lungs, you know, seeing punk
will never be champions, So him showing up made sense.

(01:35:10):
I ain't coming with the goons as well. Now I
don't know what the fuck kind of well, no, no,
I can't really say so much in this match because
spot of the night in this match, after the first
referee got laid out, here come Charles Robinson giving what's
left the given what he has left of a fifty

(01:35:33):
yard dash, or you get freaking alpha male from bounced
into the next dimension.

Speaker 5 (01:35:39):
But the same running from like five was it when
he ran in except.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
About five second floorer from like a foe two to
a four eight. I love I love Little Nah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
He's my favorite rests, my favorite ref of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
In my opinion, this guy's won for almost twenty six minutes.
I mean, I thoroughly enjoyed this match. It definitely gave me, like,
you know, revisiting a bunch of vibes from you know,
these guys are going. This is the fifteenth match they've
had against each other, and I feel like I've seen
almost all of them, you know, notably the most best

(01:36:25):
ones probably you know, Money in the Bank or whatever
in twenty eleven summer Punk that feud. But it took
me back, man, and I think the winner was rightfully
so I think it should have stayed with Sina and
it did because last time Seam Punk on that feud,

(01:36:45):
the roles were just reversed for this whole thing. And
that's what we're getting. We're getting the same thing with Orton,
We're getting the same thing here with Punk. This is
the roles reversed. And you know, I'm glad we didn't
get no low blow, we didn't get no uh Travis
Scott interference. So there's some things I can say that
I'm very happy about it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
He tried the low blow, yeah, he tried it, yeah, yeah,
And it was smart up that they had Punk not
fall for it and he actually sees through it and
caught it and counted him. And shit, I mean there
was some definitely some impressive moments there. I mean seeing
freaking forty eight year old Johnsona getting Bronson rito for

(01:37:26):
an attitude adjustment.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Dude, that was impressive.

Speaker 5 (01:37:30):
I didn't think it was gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Yeah, yeah, right, I was. Well, I was praying for
the knees when he was doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
Yeah, and Sina, you know, not nonfreight taking some bumps
during this fucking match, man, Like you know, I people
keep saying, how sank He's playing it safe. I'm like, yeah, man, well,
like at the end of this year, the man still
has to have a career of some kind. Like, yeah,
he's playing it safe so he can be here for
the rest of the year. The last thing, honestly, the

(01:37:59):
last thing I want is him to get injured during
like you know, a raw or like something like this
and then he that's it, Like he's done for the year.
That's it, he's injured. Like, so if he has to
play it safe to get me to the end of
the year for the most part, then do it. Like
but no, this match, hehouders safe. But yeah, yeah, yeah

(01:38:22):
Bronson being on your shoulders. But I mean I saw
he lifted, he looked into his legs. You know, he
us his back in an awkward jerking twisting motion. But yeah,
that was impressive. Man. Johnson always there to to impress
you when it comes lifting like huge fucking guys in
the ring. Yeah, he's a strength man always, whether it's

(01:38:43):
like big show and edge on his shoulders the same time,
like you know.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Two guys, great.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Colleague, like he's I've seen him just lift an impressive
amount of people. Just it's crazy. But maybe, yeah, I
enjoyed this whole match. I enjoyed this whole feud between
these guys. I'm glad I got what I wanted. I
wanted him to revisit some older feuds, and so far
I'm getting it. I think maybe the only other one

(01:39:11):
I would be willing to dust off is an aj
Styles feud. Other than that, I'm pretty good. Like, give
me some new give me some new feuds after you know,
unfortunately we got Cody, but like, give me some new feuds.
I want to see some new meat go against Sena.
I guess we got.

Speaker 5 (01:39:31):
We got the tugonomics and SmackDown.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Oh yeah, they the the CM punk. That was funny.
That was hilarious. So if you haven't seen that, go
back and watch that. But that was pretty funny. Again,
roles reversed and it worked. We're just doing the same storyline. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
But yeah, I think if we get anything new from Sina,
it'll be when he returns as a baby face exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
Right now, we're just.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Work some just work matches with the new That would
be nice if he whenever he comes back as a
baby face, if it's like, you know, he's just here
now just for the people for he ain't chasing no
titles no more. It's just like for these last couple
of you know, appearances I have left, I'm just gonna
have a different match with somebody new on the roster. Yeah,
you know, almost reminiscent of his US title run where

(01:40:25):
he was facing somebody different every week. But instead it's
just hey, you new guy, come on one on one,
let's go. Yeah, just just for the hell of it.
No reason, no storyline, no few know nothing, just you know,
just his way to give something to the to the
to the new uh, to the next generation of the

(01:40:45):
current guys, the current stars just give him a match,
just because I would love that if that's how he
goes out and then whatever his final matches is with
whoever he wants.

Speaker 5 (01:40:57):
Yeah, yeah, letting these younger, these young wrestlers live out
their dream. You know a lot of these guys, they
their dream is to rest John Cena.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Right, I would love right. I would love a Johnson,
a Carmelo Hayes match, ud just I.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
Would gunter give me Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
That would have to have a storyline though, because yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Know when he comes back as a face, but like
you know, still like the one. You don't know how,
I don't know how, but get us to these places,
you know, these are the future I want.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
To like, Yeah, but like give me give me a
John Cena and like I said, John Cena and a
Carmelo Hayes or John Cena and give me don Yeah,
John that's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:48):
You know what's funny is when we talk about these
kind of matches we wanted, Like when he first came back,
I said, like, yeah, give me a Johnson ever seeing punk.
But you know, I don't care how we get there.
I don't care whose face, I don't care who's heel.
I don't care, just get me there, and they fucking did.
So if they can do that in the middle of
the fucking year, you know, we say, like, you know,

(01:42:11):
Dom's a heel, right, but they can get us there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
You know, I wouldn't mind seeing John Cena and Pence
I have a match.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Oh yeah, I heard hell.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
Let Johnson to go down to NXC. Give me a
John Cena and a overfem me. Yeah, like, just go
out with go out giving props to the next generation. Yep,
and give those guys, Give those guys a one v one.

Speaker 5 (01:42:42):
Senor versus Champa.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
So fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Overall, Guys, was this a pretty good p l e
for for a Saudi show?

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Overall? Yes, I think this actually was a pretty good,
pretty good show. They are a seemingly trying to debunk
the whole Saudi shows our side quest things, at least
with the first one of the year, at least with
this King Queen of the Ring some Nighter Champions whatever

(01:43:13):
they want to call it, from year to year, because
these are matches that have implications moving forward with the
King and Queen of the Ring matches, and you know,
at least those matter moving forward. You know, we got
a title change in Solo Sokoa becoming a new US champion.

(01:43:34):
So that's three out of six matches that mattered that
genuinely mattered, one match that you could call it a
farewell dream match with Sina and Punk right, and then
two throwaways with Ria Raquel, which was still a good

(01:43:54):
match and still the best match of Raquel's main roster
career so far. So then you really only had one
match that you could really just wipe from the board,
and it was the match that was thrown on at
the last minute and Sammy's a and Carrying Cross. Yeah.
I mean, overall, I would say this actually was Yeah,
this was actually a pretty good pl out of this

(01:44:18):
surge of pls we've had over the last one and
a half or two where we're getting one like every
two or three weeks. This is in the top two.
I would say I would put this maybe right under
money in the bank, m yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
Right now. And there was two other matches that were
originally on the car they got canceled, AJ Styles and
Dominic Umsteria for the Intercontinental title and Live Morgan.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Versus, which I think was replaced with the Sammy and
Carrying Cross Carrying Cross match.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Right, and then we also had the Women's World title e.
Sky was going to be facing Live more so they
got scrapped, but we all know why. Uh, that's all
I got for the p l E. If you guys
want to.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Move on, Yeah, that's it. We said enough about the
p l E.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Yeah. I will bring up though, like, let's get into
any matches that may have been added to the next
p l E. The next one is the Great American Bash. Uh.
So far, we we talked about the main title match,
the Oba versus yo Yo Shiki. Yes, and that's right.

(01:45:43):
That guy's from Japan. He's not even on the NXT brand.
But now added we have a taxi match Blake and
Blake Monroe and Jordan Grace versus the Fatal Influence Fallon
Henley and j C Jaane. I thought that was a
one on one last time we talked. Now it's a

(01:46:04):
tag match. Huh.

Speaker 5 (01:46:06):
Yeah, I got it literally got updated within the last
fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Wow, oh wow. Yeah, that's true because NXT is still live,
so this is why we're bringing it day live.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
And then we also have a singles match for the
NXT Women's North American titles. Soul Ruka versus Izzy Dame.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
Yep, because that wasn't on there we when we started recording.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's new tip the Bash, Well that's added. Yeah,
that's that to the Bash and now Saturday main event.
Let me see here, Well, we did talk about Goldberg
and Glunther, and we do have Ellie Knight versus Seth
Rollins added to the to the card, and also Drew

(01:46:50):
McIntyre versus Randy Orton, which I kind of want to
see that Drew versus Randy Orton. And we did talk
about we wanted to Ellen Knight versus Seth.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
What's a SmackDown ain't happen to yet? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Oh oh oh we're in the future. Oh oh oh.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
That's why we're all Was that started at six for
you guys because.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
They recorded they recorded SmackDown as well.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
So do you not want me to talk about evolution because.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
We got literally have Elite car pulled up whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Yeah, screw it. Jacy Jane with Fallon, Jacy Jane versus
Jordan Grace. Okay, there's the singles match. That's how the
NXT Women's Championship. That makes more sense. Uh, that will
be pretty good match by the way. I'm excited for
that EO Sky versus Rhea. That'll be a good freaking match.
That's for the Women's World Championship. We're finally getting a

(01:47:49):
one on one with them. I want to I've seen
it before.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
But I mean, finally we had before WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
Yeah, I know, but I feel like this one's gonna kick.
I feel like they're gonna get time to cook for
this one. Raquel, they cooked.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Raw was great.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
That an amazing match.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Because ye remember El won the title off of.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Yeah, I wanted more. Now we're getting it. Uh, Raquel,
Rodriguez and Rock as.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Long as wins. Yes, if Rea wins this damn belt.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Yeah, oh, then we have a fatal four way tag
team match for the w W Women's tag titles. Raquel
and Roxanne the champions versus Alexa Bliss and Charlotte. That's
the weird tag team and versus two other teams to
be determined. And I know they said.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
In other words, in other words, versus four other women
we're gonna randomly throw together.

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
They said two from Raw and two from SmackDown. So
we're still waiting for the two for Raw.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Uh, Well, two other teams Rall's gonna the Raw team
is gonna be freaking probably the Bellers that they'll shoehorn
in there.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Originally Bree Bella was or Nikki Bella was gonna face
Live Morgan.

Speaker 3 (01:49:15):
So do you think it's gonna be one of those
like last minute like you know, not tell us and
then they come out and that it's like, oh, no
Bellas because like we really have no time unless they
announced the SmackDown.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
No, they will announce him next week, Yeah, shoehorn the
out of them.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
And the next week and then we have a battle, like.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
I get the Alexa. The Alexa and Charlotte thing may
happen this Friday on SmackDown, and then next week Raw
will get a third team, which will probably be the
Bellas or something like that. Right, then next week on
smack Down, we'll get the last team will be I
don't know, Maybe then I'll say Piper in freaking and

(01:50:04):
and Alba fire yeah yeah then, or or maybe I
would prefer uh Meetchen and beefab mm hmm, or those
two will have a match in the winter gets into
this match, right. Actually been talking about the women's tag

(01:50:30):
titles for a while and wanting and going after them,
So it would make more sense for them to to
be in the match, someone who's actually been talking about it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
So they would be the ones taking depending if they'd
got in there.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
How about this? They also have a Battle Royal for
the Women's World Championship match at Clash in Paris. Who
would they pick to go? Who's Who's? Do we know
any who's from Paris? Is there any wrestler that's from
that area from Europe?

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
Yeah, in the Europeans, but actual French. I can't think.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
I don't think. I can't somebody that they would push
as a hometown, you know what I mean? I can't think.

Speaker 5 (01:51:20):
When's clash apparents at Paris? Is it after after SummerSlam? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
I let me see he Clash of Paris is August
thirty first.

Speaker 5 (01:51:30):
Yeah, that's so it would be somebody who fingers crossed
is the one of facing Naomi at Clash of Paris?

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
Oh? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
On the poster, well Naoi? They said a title shot,
so it could be whatever brand they are, so it
could be Naomi if she's champion, or whoever the Women's
World champion is, be that EO or Rhea or someone else.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
I will say on the poster, Bianca bell Air is on.
The only women I see is Bianca bell Air, Verria
Charlotte and Tiffany Stratton. It's the only.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Women that I could make something fairly interesting if Bianca
Bellair is healthy and can return, because I know she's
still recovering from that hand injury or thumb injury she's
sustained at wrestle Mania, so she's healthy enough to return.
That can make a very interesting possible setup with her

(01:52:29):
having a guaranteed title shot at Clash in Paris at
the presumed w W Women's Champion, thinking it could be
Tiffy at the time, and she's talking smack to Tiffy, teasing,
and they go back to the thing they've been doing,
teasing Bianca versus Jade again because obviously Jade as Queen

(01:52:50):
is going to challenge. So she back, she talking with Jade,
you win and me and you we go on to
Class Paris and we do the damn thing Jade YadA YadA, YadA, Okay, cool,
you know, and they would damn show tease that ship.
Oh we're gonna get Jay versus Clash of Parents. We're
gonna get Clash of Pears and comes Naomi snatches that

(01:53:12):
title and instead we get Bianca versus Naomi at Clash
in Paris. I'm booking it there it is, Yeah, book.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
It, bucking out, booking early man book the only other
match on here. Yeah, it's a bit of a spoiler.
But Tiffany Stratton versus trist Stratus the w w W
Women's Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Why the last time these two were together they were
allies earlier this year.

Speaker 5 (01:53:57):
Elimination It was elimination.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
How about say it wasn't it elimination chamber where they
they were tagged. Yeah, so what sense does this make
does for Tris to come back and challenges it just like, hey,
let's have a match just for the fun of it.
I don't see Trish coming back as a heel. Tiffany
Stratton's over as fuck but still bitchy as hell. Yeah

(01:54:22):
I don't. I don't know. It just seems like a
match just because which I mean. I'm not mad at evolution.
You know, if a o G legend, somebody's like Trish
who can still work good matches, wants to come back
and have a match, I'm you know, I ain't gonna
hate on it, but obviously Tiffany, Strat's gonna fucking win.
So I don't know why it seems like a pointless

(01:54:44):
women's title.

Speaker 5 (01:54:46):
Give it, give it, give it to somebody, somebody else
instead of Trish.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
But then again, at the same time, given that this
is obviously a rush thing because Peel has gotta happen
every other week, now, what legitimate storyline could they build
up right now? They then ran Tiffany and Nya into
the fucking ground, and they just finally put the nail
in that again with the last women's standing match, is

(01:55:14):
that it really ain't nobody for Tiffy Tiffany to face
right now to buy time between now and Summer Slam.

Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
Would you guys be opposed to having the brand splits again?

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
No, would I be opposed to it or in favor
of it posed either. I would be opposed to it
right now because, well, one, because I want them to

(01:55:49):
go back to having one pl a month, And if
they were to do two plis a month, then yes,
that may be. Even if it's brand split, you're still
doing ps every other week, which is oversaturation of the products.

Speaker 5 (01:56:04):
Well, when they were doing brand split pls before, it
was every other month of the month, yeah, right, which
which is ideally what I would perform.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Yeah, But the problem that existed then was trying to
tell these stories over the course of two months to
build up and maintain interest, Like things kept shifting, like, oh,
this is Raw's month for the pl so all the
attention went to Raw and building that shit up, and
SmackDown would just be sitting there treading water, squandering, being

(01:56:35):
uninteresting during the month in which is Raw's pl and
vice versa, when it was the month for the SmackDown
ple Raw sucked for that month because all the attention
was being given to the SmackDown. Granted, they seem to
be more in the long form storytelling phase now up
until the last couple of months, but you still have

(01:56:56):
to have compelling and interesting week to week content to
sustain that. When it's the other month's show and they
can't even commit to brand split as it is now,
they have mothers just showing up on whatever show whatever
they feel like they need that person on the show
for ratings boost or whatever because they can't work with

(01:57:20):
the people that they already have or injuries or whatever.
So if they can't even commit to a brand split
as it exists, now they damn show ain't gonna be
able to pull off, you know, individual brand ples every other.

Speaker 5 (01:57:33):
Month makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
Yeah, I mean it would be nice. It would especially.
The thing that would wouldn't be a compelling argument for
it is the fact that we have more titles now
and the fact that you could have pls with title
matches being featured on PL's that aren't getting it now,
like Women's inter Continent, Women's US titles, or the actual

(01:58:02):
tag team titles or tell just the freaking world titles
to themselves or the regular Intercontinental title itself and stuff
like that. That might be nice, But even that, you're
still jumping from month to month, and then there's the
issue of well if you're not in the title picture,

(01:58:22):
then what and you're still just wasting a waste. I mean,
it's it's it's complicated, it's hard, but I don't know
that exactly. It's pros and cons of either waves, but
overall I would say just nah to the brand split
pe last.

Speaker 5 (01:58:44):
Yeah, it makes sense. It's one of those things where
I heard you guys talking about last week, and it
was a question I wanted to ask you, See what
these guys think on this.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
I mean it's a good question. I mean, it's an
interesting thought to have, you know, especially right now with
what they got going on.

Speaker 5 (01:59:04):
Yeah, we'll see guys.

Speaker 9 (01:59:11):
That's probably pretty much all I got, like between the
PL's that are coming up and what I've been added
to the card, and I guess a few SmackDown spoilers.

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
But I will be on vacation, so I will kind
of be out of the loop of wrestling for like
a week. It'll be weird. Uh So when I come
back and I have to like binge or at least
read up because where I'm going there there ain't nothing
to watch. So but it'll be kind of nice, I guess,
to like just unwind from wrestling.

Speaker 5 (01:59:45):
Yeaham while, Yeah, get away stressful sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:59:50):
Yeah, but I know, like Monday nights and to come
and I'm like, I feel like I should be doing something.
It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, Like it's weird, right, So
it is when you try to take a part of
part of wrestling out of your life. It's like this
huge chunk of like this time slot just open all
of a sudden.

Speaker 5 (02:00:07):
Yeah, I've been doing this. I've been watching wrestling since
I was four, Like what am.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
I what else?

Speaker 5 (02:00:11):
Am I supposed to do on Mondays?

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
I know? Yeah, right, so dre do you guys?

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
I said, you know, people only say that about Monday.
Nobody ever says that about Friday, Like, oh man, it's
supposed to be doing on Friday. Mother fuck, I'm out,
I'm at a bar, I'm at the club. Don't nobody
care about missing wrestling on a Friday.

Speaker 5 (02:00:32):
But yeah, I never watched wrestling on Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
Never Nobody gives it. Nobody says Friday night wrestling is
a part of my life. But Monday. That ship has
been ingrained in US since the nineties exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:00:49):
Also because Fridays, you know, it was.

Speaker 2 (02:00:53):
Tuesday, Thursdays, Tuesday's Wednesday, Friday. It's been every day of
the week except Monday. At some point, Yeah, there is
that Monday. There's two things that are guaranteed on Monday,
wrestling and football in the fall Monday, Monday Night Football,
Monday Night Raw. That's them. Two is pop culture that

(02:01:17):
is part of American culture.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
Yes, sir, guys, I'm ready to wrap this ship up.
I'm ready for my vacation.

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
So get it.

Speaker 3 (02:01:29):
Trade you got anything you want to plug?

Speaker 2 (02:01:32):
No nothing at the moment. As always, Instagram, dot com,
slash PCW podcast. We'll be back in a few weeks.
I'm pretty sure to talk about either all these shows
that just happened, or Summer Slam or whatever we feel
like talking about next.

Speaker 3 (02:01:50):
Yeah, thanks for coming back on the show, man. I
appreciate it, of course.

Speaker 5 (02:01:55):
Of course I had a knock out a few things,
like my PlayStation brokes. I had to go pick that
up and finished work and everything.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
Oh man, I know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:02:12):
Yeah, follow our show, and we haven't done anything the
last few months, but we're working on new content. Uh, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, anywhere,
Sofa king Smarts.

Speaker 3 (02:02:26):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (02:02:27):
We post a lot of videos on tiktoks of things
that we play a lot of post videos funny moments
and things like that. So yeah, follow us if you like,
uh like dumb people talking about dumb things.

Speaker 3 (02:02:42):
Mhm awesome. Man, All right, guys, but that's a let's
get the funk out of here.

Speaker 5 (02:02:48):
Let's get it.

Speaker 6 (02:02:56):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages, welcome
back to this little promo. I have to give one.
You know what it's gonna be about. Yeah, just sit
here and listen.

Speaker 3 (02:03:10):
You made it. This far in to the show. What
we're gonna talk about is something very important. It's social media.

Speaker 6 (02:03:17):
Why aren't you more of the Twitter page, the Instagram page,
our Facebook page.

Speaker 10 (02:03:23):
Join share and you know what you get in there?
We'll send you a link to the discord. What's the discord?
It's where you can talk to us all day about wrestling,
not just that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:37):
How about you go to.

Speaker 7 (02:03:38):
Our website podcast Chamish your Wrestling one quilliam dot com
where you can leave her you.

Speaker 5 (02:03:46):
Not just d you.

Speaker 3 (02:03:48):
You write into the show you kind of question, We'll
answer it for you. What it doesn't stop there? Oh no,
it doesn't. We offer so much more. Do you want
to be on the show? Do you want to shoot
the ship with Dre Doyle and be guest music? He's like,

(02:04:11):
but he doesn't stop there. Guys saying you gotta go
warstl dot com and buy a piece of shirt.

Speaker 7 (02:04:21):
Right, we don't have one, We.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
Don't want to, thank god, we don't have three, but
we do have for.

Speaker 8 (02:04:32):
If they were get t shirts out. The guys, So
what they do you have made in this mart?

Speaker 3 (02:04:43):
Are you a man? Or what are you a fucking mark?
Can tell them.

Speaker 7 (02:04:52):
Times burning out?

Speaker 2 (02:05:08):
You are the world's dumbest sign up a bitch.

Speaker 4 (02:05:15):
Fack that day in and day out for almost sixty years,
I improved everybody in the world that I am the
best on this microphone in that break.

Speaker 2 (02:05:24):
Even in commentary, nobody can touch me. You are not where.

Speaker 8 (02:05:30):
It's because the Extreme.

Speaker 2 (02:05:34):
Published and we watched the stuff your yes.

Speaker 3 (02:05:42):
Talk about, your sons talk about. John three sixteen Mobstead
three sixteen says I just whipped your ass.

Speaker 2 (02:05:51):
Well, let me tell you, fucking.

Speaker 3 (02:05:53):
Brother Rocker who now gay.

Speaker 5 (02:06:04):
Queen.

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
Praise to the top all Year, my true man, Miss Year.
Welcome to the covin Owen Show.

Speaker 3 (02:06:13):
Lately he just hasn't been Harry Usy.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
Because I'm the this.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
And I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:06:27):
Oh so.

Speaker 3 (02:06:31):
Those rotten bast.

Speaker 7 (02:06:38):
Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
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