Episode 92 TNA Wrestling For Sale?

What another Episode so soon? Boy oh boy Peeps, never thought this day would finally get here. But join Carlos from Revisiting The Mania and myself as we sit down and chat about some things in the news and the talks and whispers going around about the sale of TNA Wrestling. Also where the media rights are headed. Could we see AEW and TNA bash heads on the same night?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is w W E and c W alumni
the Blue Meaning and you're listening to pc W. The
question is, oh you let me talk to I will
give you a show like you have never recovered stream

(00:22):
before a wife because I can't.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
What do you guys want to talk about.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
In the colored red in a world with a black
and white of world?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
See you, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chilling folly.

(01:33):
Just welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
and I have a very, uh, you know, off the
walk kind of episode today. I'm feeling, uh, is there
a pay per view coming up? Yeah, but not not
right now. So we're gonna just do something a little different.
I just some news has hit and I had a

(01:55):
window and I was thinking, let's carpe a d M,
let's seize the moment, let's fill this little window I
have and let's just talk. But the problem is with
joining a podcast on the wind when you have multiple
listeners and multiple people who are on the show and
co host. We all we all live our lives, you know,
we all do things. We're all quite busy, so it's

(02:19):
hard to uh to get somebody on here, you know.
But there was one man, one man who entered the call.
Let's bring him out.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
I'm here, I'm from revisiting the Mania, and we're here
to some news that wait man, yeah yeah, man. Well
I didn't hear any music.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Oh wow. Oh well maybe maybe.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
It means to hearing music.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
So I was just trying to go off the seat
of my pants and win the chimet in.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Oh okay, that's where they weren't able to hear it.
Weird Uh anyway, Uh yeah, dude, thanks for coming back.
I mean, answer the call, you know, answer the tag in,
and nobody else can make the card. I'm glad you
were able to come in and chat with me for
a while. You know, I didn't want to chat by myself.
I mean it's I've done an episode by myself, you rough.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
You get institutional life for doing that too.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah, you know, I did one episode and I was like,
I hope a lot of people don't download this one,
because then they might be thinking I'm a little crazy.
You know, it is kind of hard to to you know,
ping pong ideas when you're trying to do an episode
by yourself. But you know, it was a news dump episode.
I think it was pretty good. But this one, we
got a few, a few things in the news. You

(04:02):
know what, I want to play the news bumper, and
I feel like you should be able to hear. I
don't understand, you know what, I don't even have the
news bumper even even prepped, you know what. Screw screw,
I don't even have it in here. We're not even
prepping it. Uh, maybe I have. Hey, I got one.
What do you guys want to talk about? What do

(04:25):
you guys want to talk Yeah? Okay, Well, over the weekend,
Logan Paul got married. He got married to Nina Agdall.
I think that's he pronounce it. They officially tied the
knot on the August fifteenth in Lake Como, Italy. That's awesome,

(04:46):
you know. So now Logan Paul is a married man. Also, Naomi, Yeah, yeah,
Logan Paul offered market Uh. Naomi will address the state
of the women's World title on Monday. We've gotta talked
about this last episode of what you know. She could

(05:07):
possibly be possibly be out for whether it was an
injury or she was pregnant. But I do have the
second part of that podcast downloaded, but I haven't gotten
around to listen to it yet.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
Have you done?

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah? Yeah, I haven't listened to the second half of that.
Have you at all?

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (05:28):
No, No, I don't. I tried listening to the first one,
and I was like, I.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Can't do it. Yeah, it's like it can it's.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
The report that she has with her friend. Yeah, and
like the back and forth, it just seems so forced
and fake to me. Yeah, Like I can't watch this,
so I guess friends, but yeah, no.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I guess with Stephanie is kind of like a pick
and choose what episode, because I mean, damn, that's rough. Man,
Like you're having an interview with like the boss's wife,
you know, and it's like you kind of don't want
to you got I feel like you're walking on her
eggshells on a podcast like that. I mean, I would,
you know, I say the wrong thing, like shee here

(06:14):
we go, uh you know? But uh yeah, I mean,
like I said, last episode, we were discussing what she
could be out for. Still nobody knows, but she's gonna
let us know. It's Sunday now, so tomorrow on role
will find out. Hopefully, no worst case scenario and injury.

(06:36):
You know. Also like you know, she could be pregnant
and that'd be great. It's just sucks that it's like
she wanted one more run at the top and it
just happens to happen when she's at the top, and
that is the case.

Speaker 7 (06:54):
Sorry, It's unfortunate because when she first won her world title,
she got hurt, so they made her vacated and then
she won it back again. I think it was restuming
get thirty or thirty three, which every one which was
in Orlando, right, and that's when she won it back again.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
So yeah, yeah, what else they got here? Backstage news
on Live Morgan's return date WW Fans to see Live
Morgan back in action may have to wait a little longer.
The former Women's World Champion has been out of competition
since suffering a dislocated shoulder back in June, the injury

(07:36):
that abruptly halted her momentum along side Raquel Rodriguez in
the Tag division. While Raquel has occasionally dropped hints about
Liv's come back, those teasers appeared to be premature. Pw
Insider reports that Morgan underwent a medical checkup this week.
And to assess her progress, sparkling speculation that she might

(08:00):
appear backstage at raw that didn't happen, and sources inside
WWE suggests that her return isn't expected until the opening
months of twenty twenty six. So we're rumble huge pop.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
Yeah, you know, it's definitely gonna have to come there,
probably depending on how far we get along in this
Roxy and Raquel either like the friendship blossoms or I
think either Dre or someone had pointed out that Raquel
was wearing a Dirty Dim shirt recently and one of

(08:40):
the Monday night raws, So were are we being kind
of led astray thinking that it's gonna be Roxy that
breaks them up, and it's gonna be that Raquel is
the one that was trying to make the moves on
Dirty Dome while she was away.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, I am curious, man, Like this this is
a long This could be a long storyline dragged out
like but they could keep us interested. My question to
you is, uh, do you think Roxy will Do you
think she'll stay in Judgment Day long enough that we

(09:22):
kind of like her in Judgment Day we kind of
become the fan. And when she comes back with Live
it's gonna be a conflict more for us then it
will be for dom with her popularity. Do you think
her popularity could get that high being in Judgment Day.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Well, it just all depends on how they're gonna do it.
Right now, I you know, Judgment Days were going like
on four years, three years something like that?

Speaker 6 (09:48):
Is being together?

Speaker 7 (09:49):
Oh yeah, one of those with questions, one of the
longest stables. That's not the New Day, right, And the
way the way that this is reminding and how they're
able to plug and play people is reminding me of
Bullet Club. So if they can go ahead and keep
getting people and then taking them out and recycling. So

(10:11):
as far as as the question you asked, I don't
see how Roxy could turn good or turn baby face
in the next four months four and a half months.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
She has to stay.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
If she's gonna stay with Judgment Days, she has to
stay heelish. And since everyone's wanting to get a good
pop or you know, or just get a bit push
behind live as she comes back, Jill have to get
the baby face pop, so she'll have to stay healed.
So we have to we have to find out who

(10:47):
if it's like a misdirection like I mentioned, like maybe
it's not rock Sanne, Like how we had the misdirection
with Live and Raquel being the one that attacked Jay,
but it was actuality Naomi. So we could probably get
a misdirection like that where all the signs that have
been pointing to Roxanne and it ends up it was

(11:09):
Raquel the whole time type of thing. But when Live
comes back, it's gonna be as a face. It cannot
be as a heal.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yeah, dude, absolutely, I agree. As a face may mean
the crowd is gonna pop and lose their ship at
the rumble. I mean I could see it now, like
you know, maybe you know those two are you know,
Roxanne and Brikeller in the ring, you know, maybe cleaning
house for a little bit. It doesn't even have to
be in the beginning. It could be somewhere in the middle,

(11:38):
just cleaning house and all of a sudden, Lives you know,
fucking number comes and it's like Raquel's like I don't
know what to do, like you know, I mean, just
it's it's very interesting. The story will still be there.
It's a slow burn, but I'm still intrigues.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
Uh, moving on that definitely.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Hey, do you remember at Crown Jewel in twenty twenty
four when we got introduced to the Crown Jewel titles.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
Yeah, I was wondering what's happened with those because someone
that brought it up, I believe in the discord about
the you know what happened to the Crown Jewel titles.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
Yeah, so, and they had to defend them.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
And now going to Perth, are they bringing the titles
with them down there to Australia or are they still
staying in Saudi Arabia?

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Well, great update, great question. I love it and I'm
gonna I'm gonna tell you right now. The update is, uh, now,
we will never see those titles again. They said that
they're not They're just not doing it. This is you know,
typical Crown Jewel like fashion, Like we had Brown strumming

(13:00):
when like this huge rumble there won a title. Never
saw it again. Yeah, it's like it's something that's cannon there.
And I expect when we do go lift, Morgan's not
going to be there. So you know you have Cody,
but you know Cody's not gonna bring up that title.

(13:21):
And he's got I mean, he's the WW champion. I
don't know. I'm glad. I just don't think we should
do them ever again. I mean, in my opinion, I
just think they're silly to begin with.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
Ah, they look nice, oh, don't get me wrong, bigger
than the ones.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
But yeah, I mean if they weren't even allowed to
leave the country with them, they stayed in the forever
w the Lewie Saudi Arabia Museum that they have, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we can't get anywhere else.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
It doesn't travel.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
I wouldn't mind a like mention of them, like they
showed them in like a display case and like, oh,
do you guys remember in twenty twenty four when so
and so and so and so won these titles Like
that'd be cool. You don't have to talk about it
being defended or something. It's just something that was one
that year, you know, like a trophy that was for
that year, and it just happens to be in the

(14:17):
form of a belt. And like you said, dude, like
they're huge, like spare no expense, like you know, the
Saudi princess, like, hey, we will make ours bigger a
lot the more gold we have plenty of it. Yeah,
I'm sure we'll have another tournament of some kind and

(14:40):
another belt or another trophy of some kind.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
You know.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Oh, we just did what King, King and Queen of
the Ring there.

Speaker 7 (14:51):
Yeah, but we didn't even get any crowns. Like at
least last year with Naya, she wore a crown.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
I think Jade got a crown what she was there.
I think they got crowns while they were there, but
I didn't. I don't recall them like wearing them and
sticking to the gimmick, you know, which kind of sucks
because like a lot of wrestlers would stick to the gimmick, Shamus, Wade, Barrett,
you know, just a lot of wrestlers in the Booker
Yeah yeah, but King Booker, greatest King the Ring winner

(15:21):
probably who really stuck to the gimmick.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
You know.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
And I always thought that was kind of cool, like
they and Baron Corbyn did it. I'm just thinking of
more and more as I'm here thinking about it. It's
just a gimmick that they just don't bring back anymore.
This year, it just seemed like they wore it for
a little bit at the end and then that was it.
They never brought it out ever again. But then again,

(15:47):
it's I guess it's also like if you won the
Andre the Giant Battle Royal, You're not going to bring
out that big ass trophy every week? Are you?

Speaker 6 (15:58):
They should?

Speaker 5 (15:59):
They shouldn't.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Who was walking around with it? Was? It?

Speaker 7 (16:02):
Was it Cizarrow though, was one that was always walking
around with it? Or was it bron when he win it?

Speaker 5 (16:08):
I think it was Czarrow. It might be it might
have been Czarrow. Yeah. Every time somebody won that Battle
Royal trophy, man, I it just it didn't catapult anybody anywhere,
you know. I guess the last good champion we had
from that is probably Jay Uso. You could say maybe
he's the only one who kind of benefited from that
because it kind of catapulted him further. That was a

(16:32):
big win for him in a singles career, for the
first big win. I guess you could say, before we
started winning the it IC title, right, how did we
get here? Uh? I got this today? Possible spoiler on
the stipulation for brock lesn't versus John Cena as we know, Uh,

(16:55):
we're gonna be seeing them versus each other on September two, twentieth.
This planned mains Okay, the planned main event for September
twentieth pay per view going head to head with Adew's
all out his Brock Lenser Versusena, which is why Brock
is not booked for Paris because they wanted him as
a method to counter program Aw. It's been updated that

(17:19):
Lesnar and Sena will be expected to be a last
man standing match. Dun dun, dum. You know it sounds
so thrilled.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
I guess no, I'm not.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
I'm already a I'm upset because I didn't get a
chance to talk to this with the but I did
make my voice heard in the discord. But yeah, we
have John Cena basically turn face like maybe in twenty four,
forty eight hours before Summer Slam Night too right right,

(17:57):
he comes out, he comes out with the bright shirt,
he comes out, he runs to the ring, so we
have face Scena back right m h. And then he
loses to Cody after a half hour match. So he
loses to Cody asking it the torch. Yes, I get it,
I understand it. But the whole point that I makes

(18:18):
me mad is the only way Sena one's seventeen is
because he was a heel quote unquote and he sold
his soul quote unquote to the rock, Right, he loses
it the first minute, he becomes a face and instead
of having like a title. And yes, this is me
being a hypocrite because I was upset that Jay dropped

(18:39):
the title, that to Gunter just so Goldbert can have it.
But if you're gonna bring back brock Lesnar and he's
gonna attack Johnsena who doesn't even have the belt, is
what is he attagging him for?

Speaker 6 (18:51):
Just for losing the belt?

Speaker 7 (18:53):
Like, we never got any explanation on that. If he
was champion, then it would make sense for him to
attack him because he wants another shot at the time. Right,
So that's that's my rant and rant there.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
I mean, how how far back have you seen this feud?
I mean I've seen it since the dawn of time,
since the first match was.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
In two thousand two three.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, they had they had a singles match in two
thousand and two on SmackDown. This is back when Sino's
green as Goose Ship, you know. Prototype Yeah, just just
about like the very beginning, there's a squash match basically,
and then there was a fatal four way match with
Big Show and chrispin Wi and the two of them

(19:43):
on November thirteenth, two thousand and three. You know that
I really don't count, but I'd say it starts to
get interesting Backlash two thousand and three. Johnson still wasn't
on his level because this is a John seem As
I think, first ever pay per view match, so it's

(20:05):
still not as interesting. And then they face each other
again smack Down two thousand and four, that ended with
Eddie Garreo heading Brock Lessner with a low blow with
Johnstona's chain and got the pinfall victory, you know, Live
cheat and Steel. Then we see them again smack Down

(20:28):
two thousand and three. I think like two thousand and
three is maybe when it started to pick up. And
then we fast forward, fast forward to Knife Champions twenty fourteen.
You know, Johnsena is now on a far higher level,
you know, meeting the level that Brock listeners. I think

(20:52):
that's when that feud really started to get interesting. You know,
when Brock comes back to the company, which by the way,
I thought it was kind of a nice homage, you know,
when he he came back at twenty fourteen, and you know,
the crowd just popped and and what did Brock do?
He just went in and just fucking f fived him,

(21:13):
and Sina kind of fell for the same fucking thing again.
You know, we see him they didn't learn, No, dude
didn't learn. You know, we see you see them face
each other in like twenty fifteen and twenty. Yeah, there's
just they have a lot of history together. But I

(21:33):
think as for one on one matches, uh, in singles competitions,
Sena has two wins and four losses against brockh.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
Like, besides, you know John Cena wanting this match, there's
no reason for this match to happen, dude, absolutely.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
Now you're breaking down like the record, the numbers eve
been like that.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah, yeah, it's like, you know, Brock whoops your ass
twice and then you then you finally get one over him.
You know. So it sounds like Brock always wins the
feuds really you know, but he yeah, yes, you know
seeing that will win some battles, but he won't. He

(22:21):
never wins the war. I could see them putting him
over on this feud though, with with Brock, I think
it'd be great for his career, But like what he's
got eleven dates left? Are we? Is this the last
feud that we're getting out of Johnston's career? Is it

(22:43):
going to be brock? And they sure as fuck could
drag it out to eleven dates if they wanted to,
with appearances and promos. And I don't want to be
I don't want it to be I I I said
this before, like at the beginning of WE. I think

(23:04):
I mentioned it at the very beginning when he announced
this tour, like, okay, let's revisit I would love to
go back and actually listen to that episode he talked,
you know, he I said, let's revisit some classics, right,
And I got my classics right, not all of them,
but I got what I wanted. I got. I got
a punk, I got an Orton match. I'm good, you know,

(23:24):
from getting I got another Cody match. Awesome. Uh, I'm
done with the classics. Now, let's see some fantasy matches
before they're gone, before they're gone, dude, Like, like, don't
don't you want to knock off like some fantasy matches
on your card? Like, eh, I mean, come on, give

(23:46):
us half at It would have been nice. I'm not
saying put over new guys, but it would be nice
to see maybe him go toe to toe on the
mic with l A. Knight. You know, maybe them is
yeah or Carmelo Hayes, you know, or there's just so

(24:07):
much I know, it's like it's hard because there's there's
so much meat on the bone when it comes to
WW like how vastly large the roster is and we
kind of just want to see this one superstar and
mix it up with all these other people. And you're
realizing now, like I think the panic is starting to

(24:28):
set in with like oh God, like we got left
and days dates left, like it's it's fucking getting down
to double digits and assume the single digits and like,
oh my god, it's coming, Like this is here before
we knew it. It feels just like a couple of
weeks ago that I dropped that episode about the retirement. Uh,

(24:49):
but yeah, here we are, like fast forward several months,
and I have no complaints, Like I think since his
retirement tour has started, we've gotten a good spread out
viewership of him, Like I've gotten enough John Cena that
I'm not bored with him, and I've gotten enough that
I'm not upset that he's not on my TV, like

(25:11):
like he's a part timer. He doesn't feel like a
part timer. He feels like he's a full time guy. Again,
what are your thoughts on this John Cena retirement tour
thus far?

Speaker 7 (25:25):
Look, I was pro the heel move, and like my
earlier rant, I was upset when I turned him face
and he lost the title. And the reason for that
is because if he would have beat Cody, he still
would have had the title. He could have, yes, another
match with Brock and he wins, right, But then during
that time after this was September twenty, is what we're saying.

(25:50):
For the last dates, you still could have had maybe
like a version of when John Cena had his US
Open title run, you know, when he was like, if
you want them, come get some whoever wants to want
a shot, come out type of thing, you know, and
then you build that up for a pay per view.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
And then the.

Speaker 7 (26:10):
Last match I think, which would have been good, but
it and we went with the passing the torch type
of thing. Would I think I would have loved to
have seen him face Randy.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Randy builds it up one more time and he wins.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
Is it would be his sixteenth at that point, yes?

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Or fifteenth?

Speaker 5 (26:32):
I don't right up there dude.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
Yeah, but that's how I would have had it go.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
Yeah, and he if we would have kept the belt
unseeen a have him have a little good face run
with the title. And then he ended up losing it
to Randy. You know, their friends and they get to
hug at the end when the curtains and TV cameras
are off and things like that, and people posted on
social media. But I think that would have been a better,

(27:01):
a better way to send him out, Like he loses,
but he loses to you know, someone that's still going
that wasn't his class or you know, just so that's
still going around his age.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah. It's it's so cool because
like there's so many like fantasy bookings. I you could
say that we really would like for Sina, like how
we could picture his career ending like I love the whole,
like you know, the United States Open Challenge, and just
even if he didn't have the title, just like hey,

(27:32):
like I got I got eleven dates left, like who
wants one? Who wants it? Come get it? Like right,
and it'd be cool. It's like the like ten you know,
I don't know, nine or eight or nine out of
those days we just get these random fantasy matches on
a raw or SmackDown, or I would is he on SmackDown? Yeah,
just these fantasy Yeah, I think that'd be cool. Uh.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
And then like you don't have to have him the
barn Burners, like no five matches.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Yeah, but like we could say, cross off the list,
like we could be like awesome, like we got dismatched.
We never I never thought i'd see this match, but
we got it, Like cool, cross off the list, and
then like maybe it maybe not even Orton, like like
if they were still playing the brock Lessener like imagine
like you know, he goes, all right, well, he goes,

(28:24):
next week is Saturday night main event. He goes, I
don't have a feud. He goes, I got the this
is my last day. Uh, you know, I'm calling anybody
you know who wants it. And then that's when brock
Lessner music came. Like holy fuck, we've been just getting
these regular Joe's or you know whatever fantasy matches, but
then we get like this fucking shocking return uh for

(28:48):
his last match. I don't know again, fantasy booking to
its full list. You know what we want, but it's
not what we're gonna get. Sometimes we get what we get, well,
we get what we want. It's rare, it's very rare.
We get the booking that we want. We get very
happy for me. This year, I kept kind of predicting

(29:10):
that somehow, some way, Seampunk was gonna get fucked by
Seth Rollins. And this is the second he won that
money in the bank briefcase. I was like, I don't
know how, I don't know how we're gonna get there,
but we're gonna get there, and Seth is gonna screw
over Punk. And I was right, and and I kind

(29:30):
of predicted even before that, because even without the briefcase involved,
I was gonna say, Punk is going to win his
title or cost him the world title yet again. But
you know the fact that that man let him hold
on to that world title and feel it and feel it,
take it in, soak it in, and then cash in

(29:51):
on his ass. That's some good fucking wrestling right there.
Are you ready for the meat of the story or
do you have anything else you want to plug in
before we get to it.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
No, I think we've already beat that uh uh and.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
Expressed our anger and this whole scene a run Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Yeah, it's it's I'm angry, but I'm not, but I'm
getting one. I'm just happy it's happening. Like, I'm just
happy we're even getting a retirement tour. I'm happy we're
not just getting a retirement one retirement match and then
he was gone forever. It's dragged out for It's gonna
be dragged out for a year and almost a year,

(30:38):
and I think that's more than what I could have
ever have asked for. So I'm enjoying it while I can,
because before you know it, it'll be gone and then
we really can't see him, so we're wrong.

Speaker 7 (30:54):
I mean, if you have HBO Max, you can see him. Yeah,
gonna start streaming in four days. Dude is recording.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Yeah, dude, let me tell you how I love the
first season. H I I'm so excited for this next
season because he I just watched Superman for the first
time yesterday and he has a little cameo in Superman. Uh.
So like to think that they're like, oh man, like
we're totally seeing John Cena in this new phase of

(31:28):
the DCU. Like he's he's jumping over He's one of
the very few that are We're gonna see from one
universe to the next. Uh. And that for me also
is great because like that secures him a role, a job,
a spot on my TV. You know, I couldn't ask
for like a better thing for John Cena right now

(31:49):
than his foot in the door of a superhero universe,
whether it be DC or Marvel. You know, I don't know,
there's I guess I feel that way about most professional
wrestlers when they go to Hollywood. He's like, I just
want to see him succeed. You know. I felt that
way about Batista. I didn't. I just never worried about

(32:12):
the Rock. Dude. When The Rock went to Hollywood. Never
worried about this guy. After the Scorpion King and then
he started doing movies like Walking Tall and The Rundown,
I was like, Oh, he's good. The Rock don't need me,
he don't need my support. He's good. And look at
him now, you know, ah.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
He needs your support.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Yeah. God, he's still making Jamanji movies.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
He needs you to go see the the other movie.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
He is coming up something like that, something like that.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
But he plays like a hold on.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
The UFC guy, it's gonna bother me.

Speaker 7 (32:59):
You don't even know it's it's not you don't even
know that it's The Smashing Machine.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, what the fuck was I talking about? The Racing Bowl.
That's another boxing movie, isn't it with Robertson Niro.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
I don't know, well it is, but it's kind of
like that, I think it, like his story is.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Kind of similar.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah, the Smashing Machine. Yeah, like I said, The Rock
When I was younger, I was never worried about the
Rock in Hollywood, but like when John Cena stuck his
foot in the Hollywood and and Batista, I got a
little word.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Man.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
You know, I was kind of hoping the best for
guys like Randy Orton and like the Miz, but it
just kind of didn't take off, you know, no matter
how many marine movies you put out, just just didn't
take off. But they still got job security and WW
right now.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
So yeah they could still go. So yeah, they still
Randy's not blamed that bad.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
He has his own I think he has his own
weed chop.

Speaker 7 (34:05):
Oh really and one of those typees of yeah, so
he's fine. Yeah, he's making his money, whether it's in
his contract or whatever alternative investment opportunity Deasy has.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
Yeah, all right, Yeah, let's let's let's get to the
main event here, big big news. Well, actually I want
to I want to bring this up before I do
the big news. Did you recall hearing it was probably

(34:44):
last week? I think it happened that Paramount acquired the
US media rights for the UFC in a massive seven
year deal a seven point seven billion dollars. This deal
begins in twenty twenty six. That will make Paramount Plus
the exclusive home for all UFC numbered events UH and
UFC nights in the US, ending in ending the UFC's

(35:06):
previous pay per view model ESPN. UH. Some events will
also be uh Simuel simulcast to CBS. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
It's funny, big ones where people might know their names.
They're kind of bringing it back to the days of boxing,
where boxing would be on network TV, whether it was
it was primarily ABC, I believe, and then NBC before
I moved down to HBO and Showtime and things like that.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Right. Yeah, And it's funny because they're leaving ESPN, which
is where we're heading, you know. And it's kind of
funny because they're all under the same umbrella of t
k OH. It's just kind of funny thing, kind of
swapping here paramount, that's great. In paramount, it's awesome. I

(35:55):
have paramount.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
There's also times where I've wanted to watch UFC fights
and I was just like, I am not paying that
price for UFC fight by myself. Yeah yeah, And you know,
it's the same goes with boxing, Like it's just it's
so expensive, and I don't like the time frame when

(36:19):
it comes to UFC in boxing matches, like how late
I have to stay up to get any kind of
you know, satisfaction, and you know, we're I'm so buried
into WW Like I don't know a lot of these
UFC guys. I don't know a lot of these boxers.
Like I'm also just waiting for the main event, like
that's what I'm here for, and I'll start it like
one in the morning or some shit, and you know

(36:42):
a lot of them are just recently just been disappointing,
like boxing matches alone, so like I guess the last
one I watched, like the last Mike Tyson fight. So
I think after that, I'm kind of like, you know,
I think it might be done with boxing for a while,
but I'd be interested to see some UFC, Like you know, uh,

(37:03):
I you know, if I have a friend, I have
a friend Dwayne who's a listener to the show, Dwayne Coleman.
He what's the host UFC Fight soon? You know, I
was like, for sure, man, I'll go over and watch.
I'm interested. There's always w W wrestlers there in the crowd.
I know Undertaker likes to go.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
No choice.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah yeah, I mean now it's no choice, but yeah,
Taker would always be there and I think they would
get rocked too.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty cool when you get to see
a bunch of ww wrestlers there, you know, taking interest
in the sport itself, like they're like us.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
They had to buy tickets and go, oh, they don't
have to buy tickets. Those are kinds well, they have
to still walk to the arena, depending like if it's
in d MGM or Grand in Las Vegas or wherever
they're holding in it.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Yeah. Yeah, So with that said, I'm going to bring
up the big news that a lot of people were
probably hearing rumors and what's going on and maybe it's
been brought up a bunch of I'm sure brought up
in tons of other news outlets that it had to

(38:22):
have crossed your your eyes. If you're a wrestling fan
of some kind, even if you don't watch, you had
to have heard about it within the past, you know,
a couple of days. Yes. There are reports that TNA
Wrestling formerly known as Impact Wrestling, is potentially up for sale,
with WWE reportedly holding a first option to buy the company.

(38:44):
This arrangement is part of a broader partnership between WW
and TNA, which also includes the rights to first refusal
to match any other offers for TNA. This means that
WW can potentially block any sale of TNA to a
party that that they don't approve of, and also have
the opportunity to match any competiting offers uh competing offers.

(39:10):
There is rumors that former owners of the UFC, Lorenzo
for Tita Tita formerly Yeah formerly UFC owner, is looking
to purchase TNA. Also a e W Tony Kahan is
looking to buy ae W as well. It looks like

(39:40):
the arrangement the strategic goal is This arrangement is reportedly
part of ww's strategy to weaken its main competitor because
a W is a potentially against the make competitor a
W by potentially elevating TNA to the number to spot
in the wrestling landscape because their TV rights, their media

(40:04):
rights are up, and there's there's a discussion of them
going possibly to CW, which is where NXT is right now,
but that would put them on Wednesday nights, which I
believe is aw Dynamite. Is that what it is on Wednesdays? Yeah, Dynamite, Okay, ye, yeah,

(40:25):
So I mean, yeah, let's get into this. TNA, for
a lot of people who don't know, is another wrestling
company that started in two thousand and two. It was
founded by Jeff Jarrett and Jerry Jarrett. It was definitely
an alternative or alternative to WW at the time. They
were initially using the NWA World Heavyweight title and the

(40:48):
tag team titles. TEENA gained prominence by offering weekly pay
reviews and later a weekly television show called Impact and
the security deal with Spike TV. Back in the day,
I always thought of TNA always the place to go
when you got fired from w W. I I never

(41:11):
thought of them as competition for w W. I just
thought it was just another outlet and wrestling outlet, and
I would occasionally flip through channels and see TNA, and
I'd stick on it for a little bit and i'd see,
you know, so throughout the years, you know, Hogan was
on ten A for a little bit. I would see

(41:32):
Scott Steiner. I would see wrestlers like AJ Styles, a
young AJ Styles, Samoa Joe. I would see the hardy
boys on there, mister Anderson, Uh you know, uh yeah, dude,
It's just it's just another wrestling company and they and

(41:54):
I think, you know, I was surprised. I will say this,
I I've been very, very surprised, man, because they started
getting more growth in two thousand and seven to twenty ten,
and then I thought they were very par not on
par with ww but on par with like what AW is,

(42:16):
you know, at some point, and I think with a
little bit of help of WWE, it's definitely put them
up there, definitely on par with NXT as well. But
I on the whole notion of we're gonna talk about
two things here, what I want to talk about is

(42:38):
let's talk about the media rites. First. I don't feel
comfortable with having TNA going up against AW only because
we don't we don't need it, it's not needed. We
we kind of know who the number two company is
slowly becoming and if, if not, if WW does purchase TNA,

(43:01):
it will for sure make them the number two wrestling
company for sure.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
But for now, we just have so much wrestling. I
like it being spread out throughout the week. I love
having the option for if I want to to go
watch TNA on Thursdays, and if TNA does get purchased
by WWE, I will be tuning in and I want
that to be on Thursday. I don't want to have to.

(43:31):
I know competition is great for business, but I don't
need it. I don't think I don't think either show
needs it. What do you what do you think about
these meteorites and and them maybe challenging AW on on
Wednesday nights, Carlos.

Speaker 7 (43:52):
If they're going to challenge ae W on Wednesday nights,
you can't do it with TNA. And I'm not looking
at their pay per view buys or anything like that.
I'm going to tell you when they come locally, right
and when they've come locally to Chicago. The recent venue
they use is a place in Cicero, right outside of Chicago.

(44:16):
It's called Cicero Stadium. If you're saying not saying like
you in particular, but medium outlets and things like that
are saying that tenas penciled in as the number two.
The capacity that the Cicero Stadium venue holds is eighteen hundred.

(44:38):
That was where pay per view, right Wayne, Wow, your
number you're saying the crown number two wrestling Nationwide Wrestling
Company can only and they barely filed that from what
I remember, because I checked tickets.

Speaker 6 (44:57):
Like do I really want to go to this? And
eventually I chamber.

Speaker 7 (45:02):
I didn't go, but I was like they still had
tickets to day of or an eighteen hundred seedt venue
or support reportedly the number two, whereas AEW which I
do question why they had it at the Aragon Ballroom
is primarily a music venue, but the capacity for that

(45:24):
is around maybe four thousand, five thousand people that they
could fit into that, and it's just like it's like
a regular like I don't know how to describe it,
but it's like a concert venue type of thing. Is
just like a stage and one long auditorium with balcony seeding.

(45:46):
So however they did the layout, I have to look
back on it, but I think they got up to
like three thousand people. And this is for a weekly show,
not a pay per view like DNA's that they were
trying to do at the social state. This is like
their dynamite, their collision, and they did like for three
weeks this setup and they sold.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Out all the numbers on LI Man. I mean, so
it's it's.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
To me.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
DNA has been on the decline for a very long time,
and for a while before aw even showed up, there
was no competition for w W, and that's why for
a while, and I know I've talked to you guys,
Dre and Doyle over this, there was like a lull
where we were watching wrestling. But has what has happened

(46:37):
recently to Doyle from if you've been in the discord
is usually he falls asleep during raw once in a while,
and I'm sure that happened to one of you know,
a couple of times to us where we're like, you
know what, we'll just catching tomorrow because there's really nothing.
There is no fear of missing out anything right now
or during that time that I'm referring to. So if

(46:58):
TNA was really the number two company, they would really
be threatening WWE at the time, and they haven't. They
haven't been doing that in a long time now. I
think maybe in the beginning when they peaked, like when
they first started from like I think maybe I could
say from two thousand and two to like two thousand
and five two thousand and six is when they had

(47:20):
their chance. But it's been all downhill and for them
to be now they have that option to get about out.
I'm pretty sure this is like sacrificing a pond like
in chess, where you strategically place it where like you
know what, they could try to go ahead and put

(47:42):
NXT to compete with AW, since you know, that's how
they really consider like people in the in the offices,
even Hunter keeps saying that they don't consider AW competition,
so why would like, but why would you put one
of your ten pole shows out there like NXC. They No,

(48:03):
They're like, you know what, we're just gonna put Let's
just have TNA go out there and do our dirty
work for us. And if they do it, if they
do it, that's good, and if they don't, they'll, you know,
they'll end up flopping and we'll just end up buying
them for cheaper because they're gonna have to either file
for bankruptcy or you know, they'll just be so depleted

(48:25):
funds wise. That's what I'm thinking. That's that's what's gonna
end up happening. No, No, it's just like, you know what,
just go out there, but we need bigger budget. No, no,
you can do it, you know whatever, and then Steve,
if they can make a Star Wars movie out of whatever,
they can, But I don't think it's gonna end up
like that succeeding at all.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Right, Well, there was a time, like what year do
I want to say, maybe like in the mid nineties
that ECW used to do work with WWE for a
little bit. They would have a little bit of Invasion crossovers.
They had in one in ninety seven they had an

(49:08):
Invasion crossover. It's just, you know, eventually what happened is
they ended up buying out that company. You know, they
kept a relationship with them, and they kind of used
I feel like they also at the time used ECW
to kind of poke and product WCW. I guess now
we can get into the aspect of of if WW

(49:33):
does buy TNA, well.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
They're gonna buy it, but it's gonna be Penny's Penny's, Penny's, Benny's.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Yeah, dude, absolutely. And you know what, though, like this
has been a long time coming. I feel like I've
always like, oh, like you know, one day WW is
gonna buy tena just they're gonna absorb them like w
CW and ECW like uh. But you know what's critical
here is how we go about this When we get

(50:01):
these I don't know, think of it as like, you know,
you're getting your brother's toys, you know, like you know
your brother has a bunch of wrestlers and now he
doesn't want to nowhere, and now you're getting all his toys.
So but some of them are familiar toys because you
used to have them, but now some of them are

(50:22):
some new toys that you never got to play with.
But how do we do this the right way now?
I believed at one point when WW bought WCW that
maybe they should have tried to keep WCW the name
alive as a separate show. This is before we had

(50:43):
the row of SmackDown rosters and they were two completely
different shows. It felt like I think keeping WCW, maybe
on a different day, keeping that afloat would have done well.
Keeping that roster separate. Still, they could do that T
and A is. You know, they're going to keep tn
A completely separate as a completely different roster as well.

(51:06):
Why not? You know, I'd rather see that than it
get absorbed and dispersed into the the WW umbrella, because,
to be honest, I mean, our rosters are overwhelmed now already.
You know, uh WW just bought Triple A. Uh huh.

(51:30):
So it's like the Almighty you know, Thanos, you know,
collecting all the infinity stones that they're going to try
to get. Basically, they could essentially get WW on every
day of the week if they wanted.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
To, or just under different names like exactly.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
I recall there being a rumor about maybe an NXT
Japan or an NX Team Mexico, and you know, maybe
that's what the Triple A is. It's just doesn't have
a I don't know, maybe they'll keep it just Triple A,
just separate either way.

Speaker 6 (52:11):
No, yeah, I think that's what's gonna end up happening.

Speaker 7 (52:14):
And you could see it, like if you watch Triple
Mania yesterday or whenever you're listening to on August the.

Speaker 6 (52:21):
Sixteenth, you could see the difference.

Speaker 7 (52:23):
If you watch Triple Mania from like before this, they're
like the production value was very low rent. Uh the announcers, Uh,
they're okay. I still listened to it in Spanish. I
didn't listen to the JBL and Corey Graves thing, just
because that's how I'm used to watching it, right, But

(52:45):
they seemed a little bit more crisper, and as far
as the Spanish announcing goes, the presentations were better. So
you could see the influence that WW has on the
Triple A uh stay Federation.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
Yeah, so you could see that.

Speaker 7 (53:06):
It's like you mentioned, this was probably they're probably pivoted
now that they purchased like n X t uk folded.
You can only you know, that's probably something they learned
that we can't have another brand overseas, like making it
on our own when there's still all these when they're
still like major little indie promotions there, you know how

(53:31):
I can't name them, but I know, like England in
London and all those that they have, the little indie
ones like Sorea's parents, I think still have their emotions
still going. If you have those that are already ingrained
in like fans, they're never gonna go away. So it's
kind of pointless for you to go. But if you

(53:52):
already have something established, like a three play ah or
something like that, you can already you have the bone
structure already there.

Speaker 6 (54:01):
You know, the infrastructure is what I meant. So now you.

Speaker 7 (54:05):
Can just gut it kind of like a home remodel.
You keep finding what you can keep, what bones are
still good, and then build out from there because you
already had the fan base and as long as you
keep like the the talent that they like to watch,
which we got to see some of it, like I'm
halfway through.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
I didn't get to finish it.

Speaker 7 (54:27):
But they had the Scarlet Pumpernicompianilla Scarlata, Nina Burghesa, the
Hamburger Kid. You know, they had Elijo, the Doctor Wagner Junior.
There's basically Doctor Wagner the Third or Doctor Wagner the
Third type of thing. But they you know, Subernetico Messais

(54:52):
and they still have Cycle Clone, they have Mister Iguana.
You know, they're keeping people that the talent that people
have been watching and rooting for over the years, and
now they're like infusing WWE talent there because essentially that's
I think that's where it's gonna go where it's they're
gonna see, well, we'll see what you can do here.

(55:13):
They'll set up like a good framework, have some good
workers there that can put over their talent, so they
can pretty much have a measuring stick kind of like
the like the baseball where you're like, okay, well you
finished going through single A. Let's see bump you up
and let's go through double A and see how you
do there. Right, And it's we're gonna be one of
those many stepping stones, right.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
You know, I've been catching clips of Triple Mania highlight
reels and stuff, and like I'm intrigued because I I
what really helps is the infusion of some ww wrestlers
going over there, and I'm like, oh, I know who
Natalia is, I know Dominic Masterio, I know dragon Ly, which,

(55:57):
by the way, Dragonly had a great entrance. Uh definitely
not the type he gets in ww EL Grande Americano.
You know some Judgment Day members Omas Otis, Like Otis
has been gone for a minute, he showed up like
I like the you know, I know these guys like

(56:18):
feeling like it made me feel like oh okay, like
I'm comfortable and like I know some people, it's like,
I don't know. If you go to a new place
you've never worked before, you know, and you're like, I
don't know anybody here, it's my first day. And but
then you see some like people you worked with before, like, Oh,
I know this guy fucking Otis, He's fucking hilarious, Like,
oh God, Omas, where have you been. Oh I've been here.

(56:41):
Oh dude, I know this guy. But it's if you
have that feeling as well with TNA. Bringing it back
to TNA, a lot of guys who left WWE, who
either at let go or left on their own accord,
went go to TNA and now that's where they're at.

(57:02):
And I know former former WW wrestler Dolph Zigler Nick
Nemath was saying how he does not like the idea
if WW would buy TNA because he went to, you know,
TNA to get away from WW. And I totally get

(57:22):
that as an employee point of view, Like you're happy,
you're kind of you feel like you get more creative
or maybe maybe a better work schedule or better pay
whatever in TNA, and you're happy and you're so glad
to get out from that WW corporate umbrella and now
you wake up the next morning you read headlines that

(57:44):
you know your former boss or former company is looking
to buy your new one that you're working at. It's like,
ah shit, you know, but I mean there's a lot
of pluses, a lot of pros for us. I mean,
think of the library that they're going to achieve and

(58:06):
and you know, get that they can use. It'd be
cool to show before guys before some of these TNA
guys that are in WW retire, it'd be cool to
see some highlights from their TNA career or maybe some
acknowledgments of those titles. You know, like AJ Styles, you know,
acknowledge how many titles he's held in TNA, like he's

(58:28):
a former so and so heavyweight TNA champion multiple time.
You know, I think that'd be really cool. It's like,
oh God, like did this guy did work here? Like
seeing punk did work in TNA? You know, bring up
that even you know, also how bad or how nice
would be to stick it to Tony Kahan if they

(58:50):
do have TNA on Wednesdays and have you know, former
aw guys showing up on TNA. You know, how do
you feel if seam Punk showed up on TNA one night,
you know, going back to the old stomping grounds or
having you know, I don't know, I think that'd be

(59:11):
funny having maybe Cody Road show up on Wednesday night,
a you know, we're against aw Dynamite. He shows up
at TNA to maybe tag with Joe Henry. Uh, you know,
we got the hardy boys over there, we got the
dudly boys over there.

Speaker 7 (59:30):
I'm trying to think, well, just just one, because we
don't know the extent of how much how many pumps
Steven can take.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
Yeah, dude, I'm I'm very shocked that that man is
even agreeing to this. I'm trying to think, oh, right now,
we also have I'm looking after our current roster. J C. Jane,
one of our NXT wrestlers, now holds both women's titles
from both shows, you know.

Speaker 7 (59:59):
Yeah, and that's something that I wanted to get to
because all right, so we have we have n XT,
we have a Cy James, their women's champion, and we have.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
Ooh, you're forgetting this name one who was with Carmelo Hayes,
Trick Williams.

Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
Trick Williams was, Yeah, Trick Williams is the men's right, Yes,
the men's heavyweight champion. So NXT is their developmental In
my eyes, this pretty much like brings down the level
of their title. If they're considered quote unquote the number two.

(01:00:44):
You can't have a develop another person's developmental.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
Talent.

Speaker 7 (01:00:49):
B the you know the face of your women's division
and the face of your men's division. Right, So this
is in my eyes, this is like just the way
of them bringing down bringing down the value of TNA.
You can make the argument the TNA is gonna benefit

(01:01:13):
from this, get the rub from having Trick Williams and
Jason Jane as their champions and like the cross promotion
partnership that they've had is working for TNA. But in
my eyes, it's just degrading that promotion a little bit
more and it's just going to make it easier for
them to buy it than by twenty twenty seven mm hm.

(01:01:40):
Like you mentioned, they WWE is going to have like
a stranglehold.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
And when it comes to like a library.

Speaker 7 (01:01:50):
Because they have the old Georgia Championship wrestling NWA to
a certain point, because I think Billy Corgan, now that
he owns NWA, he's held down to some of a bit,
but it's been going like this year and this year
I think only belongs to the WW. I don't have

(01:02:13):
the specifics on it, but I know there's like bits
and pieces of it they don't have, like the whole
library of NWA, but they got parts of it. He
had the w CW one now and then you know
as well, and if they get a hold of the
TNA one, the only one they had, the only promotion,
major promotion besides the ECW sorry you had that on

(01:02:34):
there as well. The only promotion they don't have would
be the rest of the NWA one and the Ring
of Honor one, which thankfully Tony Kahn was smart enough
to buy when they started up as aw M. Yeah,
that would have been a massive library for WWW to have.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
Yeah, absolutely, oh yeah, yeah, I mean that's a lot
to acquire. And are you right though like that? To
have TEENA have the feeling that it's on the same
par as NXT, it sucks, But that's just how it's
gonna probably end up being, not going to put them

(01:03:18):
on par with. There was a time when it felt
like NXT was slowly becoming taken more seriously when they
were involved in Survivors Series. It felt like NXT definitely
the third brand, and if there was, there were times, yeah,
it felt like legit. I mean, most of that roster.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
We wanted it to come up before because that's how
it fed up. We were with what Vince was giving
in the mid to or late teens.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
You know, we were like.

Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
Having to watch rock Lesnard with suplex cities to everybody
for like five minutes, and then he would just give
him an F five and that'd be like a seven
minute match and it's over.

Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
Uh huh. And that was your main that was your
main event of WrestleMania.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I think, though, wouldn't it be cool if we we
got the invasion angle done correctly. I'm not saying you
need to invade the main roster, but to have them
truly invade NXT. I know we have ten A wrestlers

(01:04:33):
show up on NXT and vice versa, but like to
have like a true invasion of TENA wrestlers showing up
on NXT. You know, reckon shop. If you ever wanted
to go the distance and write it, well, you could
probably do with the main roster, But I don't think
you need to involve the main roster you want to

(01:04:55):
take NXT seriously, then have them defend the w w
NA and to handle TNA wrestlers on their own. Just
going through their roster, I counted at least twenty five
former ww wrestlers, so that that's twenty five familiar faces
that would show up, you know, wrestlers get jumped and

(01:05:18):
like oh my god, like I don't know these two
other guys, but I know, like these three other guys
that are with them though, and like, oh they're all
from TNA. Holy shit, Like I don't know. It's gonna
be very interesting to see how they handle TNA once
it's in their hands, what they do with with that
new set of toys, those new wrestlers, those new storylines

(01:05:41):
that they can do, new titles, new show, new everything dumb.
That's just a lot to absorb into a wrestling company.
Like I said, I think the best thing to do
is just leave it be. Like you know, I don't
think you need to go up against AW just keep
it as so separate entity. I think the roster that

(01:06:05):
they have is probably happy with working with each other,
and they probably want to continue working with each other,
so maybe it's not best to separate them but I
kind of, like I said, I kind of knew this
would happened one day. It was inevitable. But once ta
H started doing more relationships, we started seeing more and

(01:06:26):
more work with them TNA, and I was like, ooh,
we're closing in on something big happening. I was like,
the seeds are being planted, and that's how I felt,
man Like, the seeds were totally being planted. And you know,
fast forward a couple of months. You know, we had
Jordan Grace at the Royal Rumble. We have the TNA

(01:06:49):
champion show up at WrestleMania. We had the NXT take
the TNA title over to their show and keep it there.
We've had the women win both world Women's titles. Like
we're in just in a few months, We've we've had
something that was unheard of in WW. You know, Vinceman

(01:07:12):
never let this shit happen, never in a million years.
But it's it's just happening so fast. And now it's
like we're getting all this talk about it possibly being
up for sale, and WW like for sure gets first
say and I think it'd be just silly for them

(01:07:35):
to pass on it. But at the end of the day, dude,
I'm very curious with numbers, like how much are you
guys gonna buy them for? Like how much are they asking?
How much are they worth? And how much are we
actually gonna get? You know, I want to know numbers
at the end of the day.

Speaker 7 (01:07:53):
Oh yeah, they cut out there for a little bit.
But I mean, I see what your point is, where
you're coming from and things like that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
I do like that invasion angle.

Speaker 7 (01:08:07):
Yea, once again, if we're once again considering that TNA
is or the WWE wants to consider that TNA is
number two nationwide wrestling promotion, you can't have the invasion
angle happen on the development of what's considered the development development.

(01:08:32):
So so either they need to stop calling n XT
developmental and maybe you can merge eventually, you know, like
say this invasion happens, you know that's where they're going
merge next TTNA into the third brand. It's no longer developmental.

(01:08:55):
Then you can probably run into having a better invasion angle.
You you can't have that, I think in my head,
you can't have TNA and NXT have that maybe for
that NXT storyline, but that can't be the end. It
has to progress even further, like you mentioned, like if.

Speaker 6 (01:09:16):
You see that.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
And you can't make SmackDown or raw one, it has
to be in steps. But and behind the scenes, you're
basically gonna have to end up merging NXT into TNA
if you wanted to have that storylining.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
Think in my head for it to work.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
I don't know, man, it's it's it's gonna be interesting.
I'm fascinated by these next few months. Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:09:45):
Just it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
The just the wrestling landscape is changing so much with
now being so many other wrestling companies with ww doing
business with TNA than purchasing U Triple A. Recently we
discussed them going to ESPN next year. You know, the
Peacock deal is over. Just today, actually, I was cleaning

(01:10:12):
out my Xbox and I deleted the WWE app, which
I still had on there. I was like, holy shit,
I can't believe I still have this app on here.
You know. It's I missed the app so much, man,
nine ninety nine and then had everything on it.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
Should have probably kept it under you think so. And
there's some you probably could have sold. You probably could
have sold it on eBay, Like, hey, I still have
the w e app and yeah, and see, I doubt
it works, but I know there's some whiz that sell
that still, Like if you could get Netflix to work
on the Wii, those so pretty for a good penny.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
Oh wow, Actually I think I do have Netflix on
mine to send a way. That's awesome. But uh yeah, man,
that's all I got right now for the TNA news. Really,
we're we're not getting a lot of information yet. It's
just this is just what's hit the news, and I
just tell you everything in that I've read and everything

(01:11:11):
I found out. I don't think I missed anything from
this TNA deal. We talked about the media rights where
that's going, when we talked about the company being sold
as a whole, so you know, for that.

Speaker 7 (01:11:29):
Them having first refusals, it's very interesting. Yeah, dude, I
didn't know about that, about that clause, the first refusal,
because I was like, Tony Kahan and his dad had
the money. I mean, like they own English premier soccer
team overseas. You know, they're not like the best, but

(01:11:51):
just owning those is already like a billions of dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:11:54):
It's worth more and then or.

Speaker 7 (01:11:57):
If not as an NFL team, just maybe just as
a little bit more because it's an English Premier team,
and then you know they owned the Jaguars. So as
you know, like I mentioned, like the NFL's one considered,
you know, one of those things that there's the cream
of the crop in the United States as SiZ as
it goes. I know, the Portland Trail Blazers just recently

(01:12:19):
sold for four billion dollars. But a decent NFL team
maybe not like the something similar to like.

Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
What sold recently.

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
I don't remember what team sold recently, but there's I
think was it the Saints or somebody When they sold,
they was sold for like either three billion or or
somewhere around that time when they sold, and that was
just like maybe ten or fifteen years ago, So imagine
now how much they would sell for. So you know,

(01:12:54):
they have that they could always get into.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
I think.

Speaker 7 (01:12:58):
Tony Khan's father is worth eighteen billion whatever acidt he
has on his own, So it's it's not like pushing
over ECW when they're on the brink of bankrupte every week.

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
Yeah, it says the company's maybe worth fifteen point three billion.
I'll berate them impairs or ports revenue. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
This is.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
Wow wow wow wow wow, because if that's fifteen something,
that's that's not a lot of money. Yeah, I don't
know either way. I think it's WW is not going
to have an issue being able to afford it.

Speaker 7 (01:13:44):
Oh no, no, no, no, it's just they'll get to
they'll get to teenage. It's just a matter of if
and when it happens, because with them having first refusal,
you know, if they want to sell it to that guy,
but they formerly earned Lorenzo for Tita, for Tata, Yeah,
for Tita, so you know that that will be just

(01:14:07):
like hiring your best friend. It's like if you owned
t k O Sports and Dre owned d n A
and you know, or Dre wanted to buy DNA and
you had like I wanted to buy DNA, but you know, like,
you know what, I'm gonna give it to Dre because
he's my co hold and my best friend.

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
So oh wait, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Yeah, yeah, you never know. I got cha deciding on
the thumbnail I want to use for this episode. I'm
always trying to make interesting thumbnails for the episodes. Uh
mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
I found found you found one.

Speaker 7 (01:14:52):
Was the same, Like, uh, I was gonna say maybe
like you have the Dudley Boys.

Speaker 6 (01:14:58):
And uh, they're like the TNA logo of someone being
three D through a table or something like.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
That, a slim Gym table. Oh man, could you imagine
like TNA would need like slim Gym tables and stuff,
and we need all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
It's just more money than slim Jim's like, yes, God.

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
Damn, slim Gym's gotten so much money for from professional wrestling. Yeah,
it's it's ridiculous. Uh. I think next episode we're going
to do Clash the Castle Predictions. I guess yeah, Clash Paris,
Clash in Paris. Oh yeah that's right, Clashing Patty.

Speaker 7 (01:15:44):
No, no, no, no, no, Castle in Paris.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Yeah. Yeah, we're bad at this all right? Yeah, do
you got anything you want to plug? I saw you
you guys didn't episode of ww Unreal I watched.

Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
Thank you for watching.

Speaker 7 (01:16:06):
But yes, we did recently do an episode of WWN
reel trying to figure out who the show.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Was made for.

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
Was it made for hardcore fans like us Wayne drey
Doyle smart marks that tried a fantasy book or try
to predict where storylines go, or wasn't made for more
of a fan like my wife who's recently been joining
me and discussing WrestleMania events of the past as normally
our podcast does. So it was interesting to go through

(01:16:39):
that and see her views and what worked for her,
what didn't work for her, and what she was a
fan of.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Ye I watched all the episodes and I'm kind of
like psyched for next season. It was it was kind
of nice scene behind the curtain a little bit, even
though a lot of stuff was kind of predictable, but
a lot of stuff was fairly new to me, so

(01:17:08):
I'm definitely down to see it again. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:17:13):
Man, that's interested to see how they they started pivoting
or when they thought that they should start pivoting away
from heel seeing and goal, you know, towards the Summer
Slam result that we got, because that's this season ended with,
you know, the WrestleMania leg, so now we had to
see the other continuation of the leg in Summer Slam

(01:17:36):
maybe onto Survivor series.

Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
Yeah, not true. Yeah, So if you haven't got to
uh revisiting the Mania on YouTube and and check it out,
because I didn't, and it was a good episode. So
uh yeah, that's all I got, man, uh, let's next
short episode. Let's get the hell out of here, you

(01:18:04):
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