September 25, 2025 • 139 mins
Hey hey Peeps! We're back with Wrestlepalooza in Indianapolis, Indiana!!!!! Join Dre and myself as we review the first Wrestling PLE on ESPN! We talk about how ESPn was not happy about this. Doyle has a review segment. We read a new 5 star review, I talk 2k25 and meh whatever else we got going on. Just chime in ya know?
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Of from every one of the ESPN Sports Center and
this very desk.
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In the coming weeks and months, we'll be filling you
in on the pulse of sporting activity.
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In just the moment, we're gonna take you to the match.
A very controversial imagine.
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With a wink.
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If it's up to me, we're running these highlights every
night on Sports Center. Aesthetically, there's a problem with it's something.
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It's technical stuff.
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Whatever they're prevailing technology or the size of the screen.
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Oh oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chidle and fellow.
Just welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
and I believe maybe this is episode ninety seven ninety eight,
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don't know, really close, getting close to one hundred, real close.
We're gonna talk about the review for Wressell Palooza. Was
it good?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Was it bad?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Was it.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Profitable for ESPN? Were they happy with what they got? Well,
you know what, they had somebody to do a review
and hmmm, pretty close to how I feel about it.
But we're going to discuss that and more. And we
also got some numbers of how much tickets are going
for for WrestleMania forty three I believe. Yeah, we'll talk
(06:49):
about that more. But let me bring in my co host.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
It's just me, okay, Dang's just dang bi okay, dang,
this damn lot of not for lock of damn black
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Speaker 4 (07:15):
Hey, it's on me now. I wanna get them all.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
I'm gonna get him all.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh, get up? Oh you.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Welcome back dre.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yo Yo? What do pc W crew? Main event? Dre
Uso is back on Yoka Podcast.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
All right, man, yeah, welcome back just the two man
group today. I mean that's fine. We did We did
pretty good and we have a new segment you know
where Doyle is on the road. It seems like and
uh he chimes in, so I uh whatever he's reviewing.
It's good for reviews. I think it's like a couple
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of minutes. I didn't get a chance to listen to it.
I'm gonna listen to it though before I post it.
Yeah totally. But yeah, man, we got a lot to
talk about here. For only like a couple of matches.
I feel like it's gonna be more complaining then, at
least I believe is it's gonna be more complaining than complimenting.
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But uh, before we get to that, what happened. Oh
I was getting Uh, I got a print out of
we'll not print out, but I saw somebody post prices
for WrestleMania that just went on sale for next year.
Was at what are we on forty two coming up?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, I dude, I'm just gonna just ballpark run down
here the list. If people are looking to go next year,
this is back to Vegas. We're gonna have it. They
thought it was so good that they just go back again.
I think they were originally planned to go to somewhere
in Florida. Is it New Orleans?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Originally it was New Orleans. Yeah, New Orleans, and considering
going what we're gonna do with New Orleans? Even if
I wasn't gonna attend WrestleMania because of the absurd ticket prices,
I was at least gonna make a trip out of it.
Go check out New Orleans and check out somebody's you know,
watch party something down there. Yeah yeah, Nope. Then they
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had to go all in on Vegas double or nothing
if you will.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yeah, you know, and let's let's talk about how it's
basically pricing us out. And this is dre this is
in our own country, and I say that because we
ain't gonna have it the year after that. It's gonna
be in Saudi. And I'll tell you what a hell
of a lot more expensive to go then. So the
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four hundred section, if you were to get tickets in
the four hundred section, you're looking at eight hundred fifty
five bucks right now.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I don't know how say eight hundred and fifty five right, Yeah, eight.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Hundred and fifty five bucks. Now, I don't know if
that is a pretty good view. I don't know what
the four hundred section is like, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Uh, Well, for context, Yeah, when we attended WrestleMania forty
at the Link and Philly, we were in the one
hundred section of that stadium, and our two night combo
tickets came up to seven hundred and sixty something dollars.
Just for context, Okay, if you want.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
To sit a little bit closer, you want to get
to three hundred section, you're looking at one thousand, one
hundred and seventy five dollars roughly, so you're a little
bit closer, right, a little bit closer, Okay, now, yeah,
but I have extra money in your pocket. Actually, now
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I'm pulling up pictures of the arena. This is even nicer.
This is this just makes it feels so much better.
All right, So we're we're now at the two hundred section.
If I'm to look here, worthy boy, oh boy, boy,
two hundred sections, you would be on camera. Yeah, you
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might be on camera. If you're in the two hundred section,
you're looking at thirteen hundred bucks to yeah, yeah, around
thirteen hundred bucks. Now, this is where we start to
get in like a lot better. Seats one hundred, the
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one hundred level. The hundred level is down. This is
right before you get down to the seats, right, so
if you still want to sit up elevated a little bit,
you're looking at close to fifteen hundred dollars. Boy, oh boy,
oh boy, oh.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Boy, fifteen hundred dollars to not be on the floorah.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Now, if you're on the floor sitting kind of where
we sat, like behind the Titan tron. If you're looking
straight at the ring, straight at the ramp up the
ramp you're sitting on the floor. You're looking at two thousand,
two hundred bucks for those seats. Okay, I got two
more prices here, and then I want to look at it.
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I'm gonna tell you right now. Currently, uh, section B
on the floor. If you were to get section B,
where is section B at this? Oh? This is nice
because this actually requires me to zoom. Ah section B.
We're looking at thirty eight hundred bucks. Oh my god,
(13:09):
where is B B? I see those are numbers, they're
not even letters. That's pretty fucking scary, is uh. I
can't even tell you where be even is?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
And then they have section eight one on the floor
is close to nine thousand dollars. Right now, what I'm
seeing the most expensive seats that are for sale is
going to be behind commentary. Not Oh wow, I lie,
that's not the most expensive. Yeah, it's underneath HeartCam. If
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you're looking underneath.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Heard came always the most expensive seats. There's two seats
left underneath hardcam or opposite HEARTCAMPH my.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
God, there's two tickets for sale together left. Dude, No way,
no fucking way, dude, there's there's not Nope, I can't
think of one person I'd be willing to spend that
much money on, let alone my fucking self. Twenty eight thousand,
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eight hundred and three dollars just for two tickets. What
the hell that's for a two day pass for two
day pass, still still dre.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
But people will do it.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
People will do it.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
They are pricing. They've definitely priced out the average person.
I mean, like if we could be yeah, Sava person wild,
the average wrestling fan will sit at this point, never
be able to have a great eat at a WWE
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pl The average ww fan who wants to attend PLS
is either going to have to blow out a credit
card or the average fans are up in the bleachers,
I mean, and the people with money might get further
down road at least for PLS. Maybe somebody might splurge
(15:23):
for a raw or a SmackDown, depending on your location,
depending on what's going on on that episode. Sure your
week to week raw and SmackDown. Yeah, somebody might be like,
you know what, it's been a while. They don't come
here often, like like for example, like my locale, I
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didn't do it, but I could see somebody if they
wanted to splurge one thousand dollars for those seats. I
could understand it. You know, they don't come here often.
They were just here a few weeks ago, first time
in three years. So if you know, if you get
WWE in your town once every three years, and you
decide to drop a grand on some front row seats
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for an experience that you know you don't get too often,
I can understand that. You know, the average person, I
can understand for the average person doing that. But for WrestleMania,
and you're talking basically thirty thousand dollars for front row seats,
only rich people can do that. Only rich people. The
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average fan will maybe splurge for your nosebleeds, although splurge
for the faux hunting section maybe maybe if they if
they've planned it out, you know, Okay, I'll drop two grand,
only stick it heel like a diehard super fan first
up of WrestleMania, I'm going all out, YadA YadA. But
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that's still just so prohibitively expensive that again, the majority
of fans are becoming priced out of these experiences.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, I mean, like the cheapest if you we went,
if we want we went last time, we're looking at
like almost fourteen hundred bucks, right, but like even the
cheapest ones I can see available is maybe like seven
hundred and fifty five dollars. Still, like, did we this
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includes like last year? Like last year was expensive too,
from what I heard from fans, Like that's why a
lot of people weren't happy with it. But like, honestly,
dre like, did we go to the last affordable WrestleMania?
Like was it really the last the last greatest WrestleMania?
Like before ads starting, it was more of an ad.
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I mean, like we didn't we had the Prime station,
but it wasn't Yeah, dude, it wasn't as bad it
is now with the advertisements and and we didn't have
to worry about ESPN And I don't know, man, it
was there was a silver lining between Triple H and
fucking Vincent. Right.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
It is very real that, yeah, it is. It is
very real that we may have attended the last affordable
quote unquote WrestleMania, and even with that, we still had
a hookup and got ours in a bit of a
bundle deal. M h. That's still worked in our favor.
(18:35):
I still don't know what the average person who was
just going out there, you know, solo dolo day of
or when tickets went on sale trying to you know,
get that or what they would have paid that I
don't know because I don't recall. I know that I
didn't ask other people around, like, you know, hey, how
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much you pay for your tickets and how much YadA YadA,
So I don't know. You know, even our price might
have been lower than what other people paid, but even then,
I don't think it was so absurdly expensive or they
paid substantially more than what we did at our you know,
group price. So yeah, it's very possible that forty was
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the last and quote unquote affordable WrestleMania man where you
could get two night tickets for at a fairly decent
seating for less than one thousand dollars or fifteen.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Hundred Yeply yeah, did I mean in retrospect when I
think about how much money we spent in that those
amount of days, and does everything we got out of it?
And like, I'll tell you what, I was more satisfied
with what I got out of what I paid than
I guess ESPN did, huh, because they didn't seem too
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happy about about this Russell palooza and you know what, honestly, man,
like I wasn't happy either, Like we're gonna get into it,
but oh man, I really hope we're on the same page.
But then again maybe not. Uh oh hey, guess what
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we had somebody acknowledge? Yes we did. Josh zetel Mooyer
at jay Z eighty five at cam At Edu said
he gave us five star review on this is our website.
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I love listening to him on my drive to work.
You guys are very funny and entertaining. Thank you, sir,
Thank you very kindly.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I know, John, thank you, Josh, Josh right, Josh or
Josh Josh, thank you Josh.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, I know, Josh. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Man.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
I'm gonna publish that on our page. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Man.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Like, if you guys ever just want to leave a review,
just just go right on our website, like just do it,
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Speaker 4 (21:43):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I I even the worst thing I'll ever do if
I ever get a hold of your phone laying around,
is I'll leave a five star review. And I'm not
gonna lie, man, I'm not gonna lie. I have done it.
Somebody has left their their computer open at my job
and they had their Spotify open, and I quickly went
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over to PCW and gaven five star review. And not
only that, I subscribe them so now. And he's a
little old, so he doesn't know how to like unsubscribe
I think, or maybe he just really enjoys our content
because he still tells me every time we drop an
episode he gets notified.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah, right, all right? You know what I don't. I
don't think I have anything else? Man, Like you want
to get into this, pl E. Is there anything else
you want to talk about before we get into it?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Not really, I mean we can dive in. I will
talk about you know, ESPN's review of ww Russell Palooza.
Who yeah, go for it? So Hey, well, Wrestle Paloser
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kicked off from the Gainbridge field House in Indianapolis, Indiana.
The crowd of just over fifteen thousand fans and attendance,
So kicking off the show match that previously we thought
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was going to be the main event, that they had
kind of told at one point was going to be
the main event, but apparently, I guess, smarter, cooler or
whatever has prevailed. I guess as they were finally formalizing
the card, so we got kicked off with John Cena
facing brock Lester and what turned out to be a
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glorified squash match. Rock Lesler started the match dominating, beat
the shit out of John Cena. John Cena attempted to
come back hit like three aas rock Lesler kicked out.
Rock Lesler said, I'll see your three aas and raise
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you five f fives and one two three. My personal opinion,
that was a giant waste of fucking time for this
to be Sena's final run and all this hype, you know,
Senor versus Lester. Yeah, Hey, big names, Gottayata Mike, main event,
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and we basically just get a rehash of what was
it their Summer Slam match or whatever from years ago
when brod Lesler came back and brought took Johnson to
the supplex city, except maybe not as many soup plexes,
but still basically just whooped his ass, dominated him, pinned
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him like that was nobody wanted to see that, Nobody
was rooting for that, nobody was going for that. I
know we speculated that rock Lesler might win if there
was going to be a rematch, and you know, we
see Johnson eventually overcome or what have you. But if
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that's how the first match is gonna go, not just
from it being in squashed and dominating but still the
same boring, spam our finisher bullshit, who the fuck wants
to see any of that again? Again? I did, I
never wanted to see it in the first damn place,
but that damn sure, I ain't gonna have nobody clamoring
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for a rematch. That's not going to have anybody clamoring
for JOHNSONA to overcome rock Lesnar. In detail end, that's
just a waste and for john and for at this
point where he has so few matches, so few appearances
left period, and we wasted one of them on this
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squatch match, whish. By the way, I said before the record,
I said beforehand, I didn't want to see this match
because I felt like it was a waste beforehand. But
this just doubly reinforced that notion for me. And yeah,
just why other than the fact that it's ESPN, it's
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their first show with ESPN, we need to make it
quote unquote big, So we gotta have big names. So
but bigger name is there than brock lesnar I Guess
and John Cena and biggest names we got throw them
in a match, whatever, fucking waste the time. What are
your thoughts on this one?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Wayne, I tell you what, Man, right at the gate,
let's go. I'm pretty pissed myself.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Man.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You know, I should have known when the match got
moved last minute. That's kind of I think when the
decision with backstage was kind of changed because I think
the original plans was for Sena to go over. I
don't know exactly why they changed. What their bigger picture
is here, because I'm a little confused. Man, Like I'm
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reading here on Sports Illustrated that the never seen seventeen
WWE World Champion is not expected to be back on
ww programming until Saturday, October eleventh, when he is scheduled
to appear at Crown Jewel in Perth, Australia. Scene has
also been booked for two episodes of Monday Night Raw
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in November in Boston and New York respectfully as well respectively,
as well as Survivor Series, and finally, his retirement match
will take place at Saturday Night Main Event in December.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
The other one I couldn't remember. Yeah, so like earlier
about yeah no, I was talking with a coworker earlier
about seeing his final appearances, and I knew it was crowd.
I know we had five Crowdjewel, Survivor Series, Saturday Night
Main Event RAW at MSG, and I could not, for
the life me remember what the last one was. But
(28:31):
I forgot that. There there's another Raw scheduled for Boston. Yeah, Boston,
get but did we already do that? Was it raw?
Just was that Raw or SmackDown? It was just at Boston,
wasn't that? And we already had that?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
But well SmackDown. I know Brock showed up the SmackDown
looking for Sina and and and I was like, well, dude,
like he's not here, like because Johnston is on Raw
dumb ass.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
But yeah, well they did the thing with I've seen
his last ever smacked Down apparent.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah, that was another thing. It's like, Brock, did you
not watch SmackDown like last week? Seeing it was here
last week and he was like, I'm never coming back.
He's to come on, man, Like, Brock, you need to
watch your own fucking product. Man, keep up. He showed
all the way up. There was like where is John?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Give him to me?
Speaker 5 (29:19):
He's gone, man. I was like last week he don't
go here no more.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
H don't give enough to follow the product.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Dude, Like I don't know what the big plan is
because you know now then I'm reading on a couple sources.
Body slam Net sources indicate as of uh Saturday that
there will be no oh no Saturday morning Johnsena schedules
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to defeat Brock Lesner at Wressel Plusa's sources. I'll indicate
that both Cody Roads and True McIntyre pitch Rainy.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Or and get to that.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Yeah, it made it's like there's no rematch schedule and
like that kind of makes me like scratch my head,
like okay, so like we're not doing a rematch because
he's not going to Australia.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
But we also got.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
The fans were kind of chanting, you know, like AJ Styles,
like we know we want an AJ Styles match, and
I guess John Cena tweeted out something to Triple Each
about it, and and AJ Styles is you know, down
for it, whether it's like it was something that naturally
happened or like it's all a work either way, like
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if we got four dates left, like just man, just
come on out, cut your promo, you know whatever, let's
ring the bell man, like let's see a classic, Like
I'll stay up late on a Monday night to see
John Cena versus AJ Styles in the Madison Square Garden
or or in Boston. You know, mm hmm. I don't
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want to burn it. I don't want to burn it
all on a Broccolisnter feud because if they don't plan
for a rematch, then okay, let's burn these last five
appearances on something fantastic. And said him just coming out
and saying, oh, I'm gonna miss this place, like this
is my last time in Boston, this is my last time,
(31:23):
all right, man, Like we got five dates. I'm fucking sweating, man,
because I don't know what they're gonna do, because this
match I did not understand it. The amount of AA's
and then the kickout, and then the amount of f fives,
and then the kickout, and then you know, I just
didn't understand it like this. This should have been the
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opposite of what we got in Summer Slam of twenty
fourteen with the sixteen sup plexes. This should have been
Super Sena one last run beaten the adversary that he's
had problems with his almost his entire career. At some point,
at some point in his career, in different stages, he
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has come across brock Lesner. You know, it doesn't matter
if he escapes the feud, he gets his ass whooped.
But at the end of the day, brock walks away
and leaves for a while, and you know, John Cena
is still still standing even though he got his ass whooped.
And then a couple months later, a couple of years later,
brock Lester comes back whoops his ass again. It just
(32:29):
seems like I get it.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
But at the same time, with the as far as
like the whole the rematch thing one with as bad
as this match has been, why would anybody want a rematch?
And two, when have they ever had a good match together? Right? Yep?
I believe they had one match together during Lesler's first run,
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But at that point John Cena was still an up
and comer. I think maybe at yes, he was a
US champion, but and you do have to probably search
to find that match, so I couldn't tell you whether
that was a decent match or not. But everything that
they've had in in Lessler's second run and Sena as
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the face of the company or you know, the man
has been every match has sucked. Every match has been trash.
Virtually every damn near every Brock Lesner match in his
second run has sucked. I still, for the life we
don't understand why people pop so huge for Lesler now,
(33:37):
why people are why he's such this big deal other
than size and name. And yes, the man is a
mammoth of a human fucking being. Yes he has a
presence about him, especially in w w E and in
the realm of giants, he is a giant among them.
But his matches are just not good. They had the
(34:04):
same shit Germans F five's clothes lines. Like if I
could see the one Lesler match that he had that
I thought was entertaining. It would be the last man
standing match he had with Roman Reigns at Summer Slam,
and it took a fucking forklift for them to jack
(34:27):
up the ring with Roman falling out of it and
the dumping half to freaking set on top of Lesler
at the end to make that match entertaining. Other than that,
second Run, Lesner has been so fucking mediocre, just big
guy doing big bully shit sucks like I'm it is
(34:52):
night and day. My feelings for First Run Lessner versus
Second run, Yeah, First run Lessler was a goddamn lew
That man was putting on classics with Kurt Angle, That
man had iron Man matches with Kurt Angle wrestle Mania moments.
He made me believe that Big Show had finally found
(35:13):
his muse to be a permanent big name main eventor
because he and Big Show had chemistry in the ring together.
Big Show the guy who was just big, slow and
show that was it show, But him and Lesner in
the ring together worked. It was so perfect together. Him
(35:38):
at Big Show and Lesler could have been like Rock
and Triple H in the ring together. That's how good
first Run Lesner was. That he made a he made
a main eventor a legitimate bona fide main eventor and
rival and compelling feud with the Big Show. This motherfucker
(35:59):
this post UFC. Dude, it's just no fucking boring to me.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I I dude, I understand the frustration.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I think too.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
What's what's frustrating most of us is it feels like
a waste, like an absolute waste for us. Uhh whether
I just I just feel like at this point in
time that in this point in his career, this is
where he should have putting Lesner away and walked and
(36:38):
you know, into the sunset, uh and send Lesner off
and Lesner as well, like that man as well does
not have much time left. I mean, I know he
is in the best shape of his fucking life. And
don't get me wrong, and that man came out and
this is from one man, no homo, to another man.
It's like, God damn, that man is like built perfectly.
(36:58):
He's a fucking jack Bee east Man. The fucking entrance
with that light just hits him just right. It's like,
fucking he's the moster man, just like the juice dude
whatever bro likes. You know what, Sometimes I wish we
just had like you could be the biggest freak you
(37:18):
want to be. Whatever, this is sports entertainment anyway, I'd
rather see Brock feed with other people. He hasn't wrestled yet.
I really like to see Brock and Gunter. I like
to see Brock and Braun breaker, you know, like I
(37:42):
want to see some other matches before Brock is ready
to hang it up, because, let me tell you, a
couple of months ago, we all thought Brock was done.
We thought he was cooked. Is what the younger generation
of kids like to say that he was cooked until
you know, prizally he came back.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
But uh.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Yeah, I give me an AJ Styles master for John Cena,
give me ah. I don't know who else we got
left I want to see.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
But it's.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Are we saving the best for last? What's the what's
the best? What's the best for last?
Speaker 4 (38:21):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (38:22):
It's not the rock, it's not the best for last?
What is the best for last? For John Cena?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
You know, you have no idea at this point. We're
just gonna wait for We're just gonna wait to see
what's announced because there's no hype there. They just announced
him versus AJ Styles just out of the blue, like,
all right, next time we're gonna see him and he's
facing AJ Styles. Yeah yeah, Okay, where's the build up there? So,
(38:49):
I mean, what are we gonna have, Like, John ain't
gonna be on No Raw or SmackDown or nothing between
now and Crown Jewel. So are we just about to
have a couple of weeks of AJ Styles coming out
here cutting promos? Like no build up? There's literally none.
(39:11):
There's no build up, there's no hype, like, all right,
here's the next one, wait for it, Okay, And then
after that, maybe we might get some hype build up
for a summer for a Survivor series because he might
have an appearance or two. I don't know when the
the Boston or MSG raws are scheduled in between Crown
(39:31):
Jewel and Survivor series, So maybe we get a match,
or I mean, maybe we get an appearance for some
side of a build up for whatever the fuck he's
gonna do at this point. At this point, we just
bring it on the end.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
I have an idea, man, I have an idea. Who
it is, mister McMahon, fucking Vince, Oh god, maybe the
biggest shock in all of the world, all of the world. No,
(40:13):
thank god, it won't be Vince. Yeah, I have no idea,
but anyway, that match we were referred to some older
John Cena broccolas or matches if you really, you really
want to go back and dig. A lot of these
are ere SmackDown first time. They cross paths with SmackDown
(40:35):
September at the time, yep, September nineteenth, two thousand and two.
A squash match November thirteenth, two thousand and three, that's
a SmackDown that was a fatal four way or no,
I think it was a tax team. Yeah, tax Team
with Ben Wat and there's the big show involved. Then
(40:59):
back Life two thousand and three, this is when you
first I get there.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That might be.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
He defended his WW championship against John Sena in the
first ever pay per view match. I think that was
a pretty decent one. And then there's SmackDown February twelfth,
two thousand and four. That one had Eddie Guerrero as
(41:26):
his partner. Oh my god, somebodys are just goofy. It's
just like I'm trying to look for like Elies involves
like other people like Shenantikins.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
They didn't have any matches with them at their peak.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
During exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
That's the thing is like John Cena wasn't at his
peak during Leslon's first Roe Lesner. John Cena didn't come
up until Lesnard left. Yeah, you know what, four Lesson left,
Johnsena was in the mid guard, you know who.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
We did that with that with a couple of guys
where it's like these guys
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Oh oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chidle and fellow.
Just welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
and I believe maybe this is episode ninety seven ninety eight,
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don't know, really close, getting close to one hundred, real close.
We're gonna talk about the review for Wressell Palooza. Was
it good?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Was it bad?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Was it.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Profitable for ESPN? Were they happy with what they got? Well,
you know what, they had somebody to do a review
and hmmm, pretty close to how I feel about it.
But we're going to discuss that and more. And we
also got some numbers of how much tickets are going
for for WrestleMania forty three I believe. Yeah, we'll talk
(06:49):
about that more. But let me bring in my co host.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
It's just me, okay, Dang's just dang bi okay, dang,
this damn lot of not for lock of damn black
d did.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Hey, it's on me now. I wanna get them all.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
I'm gonna get him all.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh, get up? Oh you.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Welcome back dre.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yo Yo? What do pc W crew? Main event? Dre
Uso is back on Yoka Podcast.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
All right, man, yeah, welcome back just the two man
group today. I mean that's fine. We did We did
pretty good and we have a new segment you know
where Doyle is on the road. It seems like and
uh he chimes in, so I uh whatever he's reviewing.
It's good for reviews. I think it's like a couple
(08:07):
of minutes. I didn't get a chance to listen to it.
I'm gonna listen to it though before I post it.
Yeah totally. But yeah, man, we got a lot to
talk about here. For only like a couple of matches.
I feel like it's gonna be more complaining then, at
least I believe is it's gonna be more complaining than complimenting.
(08:32):
But uh, before we get to that, what happened. Oh
I was getting Uh, I got a print out of
we'll not print out, but I saw somebody post prices
for WrestleMania that just went on sale for next year.
Was at what are we on forty two coming up?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, I dude, I'm just gonna just ballpark run down
here the list. If people are looking to go next year,
this is back to Vegas. We're gonna have it. They
thought it was so good that they just go back again.
I think they were originally planned to go to somewhere
in Florida. Is it New Orleans?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Originally it was New Orleans. Yeah, New Orleans, and considering
going what we're gonna do with New Orleans? Even if
I wasn't gonna attend WrestleMania because of the absurd ticket prices,
I was at least gonna make a trip out of it.
Go check out New Orleans and check out somebody's you know,
watch party something down there. Yeah yeah, Nope. Then they
(09:37):
had to go all in on Vegas double or nothing
if you will.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yeah, you know, and let's let's talk about how it's
basically pricing us out. And this is dre this is
in our own country, and I say that because we
ain't gonna have it the year after that. It's gonna
be in Saudi. And I'll tell you what a hell
of a lot more expensive to go then. So the
(10:06):
four hundred section, if you were to get tickets in
the four hundred section, you're looking at eight hundred fifty
five bucks right now.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I don't know how say eight hundred and fifty five right, Yeah, eight.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Hundred and fifty five bucks. Now, I don't know if
that is a pretty good view. I don't know what
the four hundred section is like, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Uh, Well, for context, Yeah, when we attended WrestleMania forty
at the Link and Philly, we were in the one
hundred section of that stadium, and our two night combo
tickets came up to seven hundred and sixty something dollars.
Just for context, Okay, if you want.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
To sit a little bit closer, you want to get
to three hundred section, you're looking at one thousand, one
hundred and seventy five dollars roughly, so you're a little
bit closer, right, a little bit closer, Okay, now, yeah,
but I have extra money in your pocket. Actually, now
(11:17):
I'm pulling up pictures of the arena. This is even nicer.
This is this just makes it feels so much better.
All right, So we're we're now at the two hundred section.
If I'm to look here, worthy boy, oh boy, boy,
two hundred sections, you would be on camera. Yeah, you
(11:42):
might be on camera. If you're in the two hundred section,
you're looking at thirteen hundred bucks to yeah, yeah, around
thirteen hundred bucks. Now, this is where we start to
get in like a lot better. Seats one hundred, the
(12:02):
one hundred level. The hundred level is down. This is
right before you get down to the seats, right, so
if you still want to sit up elevated a little bit,
you're looking at close to fifteen hundred dollars. Boy, oh boy,
oh boy, oh.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Boy, fifteen hundred dollars to not be on the floorah.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Now, if you're on the floor sitting kind of where
we sat, like behind the Titan tron. If you're looking
straight at the ring, straight at the ramp up the
ramp you're sitting on the floor. You're looking at two thousand,
two hundred bucks for those seats. Okay, I got two
more prices here, and then I want to look at it.
(12:46):
I'm gonna tell you right now. Currently, uh, section B
on the floor. If you were to get section B,
where is section B at this? Oh? This is nice
because this actually requires me to zoom. Ah section B.
We're looking at thirty eight hundred bucks. Oh my god,
(13:09):
where is B B? I see those are numbers, they're
not even letters. That's pretty fucking scary, is uh. I
can't even tell you where be even is?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
And then they have section eight one on the floor
is close to nine thousand dollars. Right now, what I'm
seeing the most expensive seats that are for sale is
going to be behind commentary. Not Oh wow, I lie,
that's not the most expensive. Yeah, it's underneath HeartCam. If
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you're looking underneath.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Heard came always the most expensive seats. There's two seats
left underneath hardcam or opposite HEARTCAMPH my.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
God, there's two tickets for sale together left. Dude, No way,
no fucking way, dude, there's there's not Nope, I can't
think of one person I'd be willing to spend that
much money on, let alone my fucking self. Twenty eight thousand,
(14:19):
eight hundred and three dollars just for two tickets. What
the hell that's for a two day pass for two
day pass, still still dre.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
But people will do it.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
People will do it.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
They are pricing. They've definitely priced out the average person.
I mean, like if we could be yeah, Sava person wild,
the average wrestling fan will sit at this point, never
be able to have a great eat at a WWE
(15:02):
pl The average ww fan who wants to attend PLS
is either going to have to blow out a credit
card or the average fans are up in the bleachers,
I mean, and the people with money might get further
down road at least for PLS. Maybe somebody might splurge
(15:23):
for a raw or a SmackDown, depending on your location,
depending on what's going on on that episode. Sure your
week to week raw and SmackDown. Yeah, somebody might be like,
you know what, it's been a while. They don't come
here often, like like for example, like my locale, I
(15:43):
didn't do it, but I could see somebody if they
wanted to splurge one thousand dollars for those seats. I
could understand it. You know, they don't come here often.
They were just here a few weeks ago, first time
in three years. So if you know, if you get
WWE in your town once every three years, and you
decide to drop a grand on some front row seats
(16:05):
for an experience that you know you don't get too often,
I can understand that. You know, the average person, I
can understand for the average person doing that. But for WrestleMania,
and you're talking basically thirty thousand dollars for front row seats,
only rich people can do that. Only rich people. The
(16:28):
average fan will maybe splurge for your nosebleeds, although splurge
for the faux hunting section maybe maybe if they if
they've planned it out, you know, Okay, I'll drop two grand,
only stick it heel like a diehard super fan first
up of WrestleMania, I'm going all out, YadA YadA. But
(16:52):
that's still just so prohibitively expensive that again, the majority
of fans are becoming priced out of these experiences.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, I mean, like the cheapest if you we went,
if we want we went last time, we're looking at
like almost fourteen hundred bucks, right, but like even the
cheapest ones I can see available is maybe like seven
hundred and fifty five dollars. Still, like, did we this
(17:30):
includes like last year? Like last year was expensive too,
from what I heard from fans, Like that's why a
lot of people weren't happy with it. But like, honestly,
dre like, did we go to the last affordable WrestleMania?
Like was it really the last the last greatest WrestleMania?
Like before ads starting, it was more of an ad.
(17:53):
I mean, like we didn't we had the Prime station,
but it wasn't Yeah, dude, it wasn't as bad it
is now with the advertisements and and we didn't have
to worry about ESPN And I don't know, man, it
was there was a silver lining between Triple H and
fucking Vincent. Right.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
It is very real that, yeah, it is. It is
very real that we may have attended the last affordable
quote unquote WrestleMania, and even with that, we still had
a hookup and got ours in a bit of a
bundle deal. M h. That's still worked in our favor.
(18:35):
I still don't know what the average person who was
just going out there, you know, solo dolo day of
or when tickets went on sale trying to you know,
get that or what they would have paid that I
don't know because I don't recall. I know that I
didn't ask other people around, like, you know, hey, how
(18:56):
much you pay for your tickets and how much YadA YadA,
So I don't know. You know, even our price might
have been lower than what other people paid, but even then,
I don't think it was so absurdly expensive or they
paid substantially more than what we did at our you know,
group price. So yeah, it's very possible that forty was
(19:20):
the last and quote unquote affordable WrestleMania man where you
could get two night tickets for at a fairly decent
seating for less than one thousand dollars or fifteen.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Hundred Yeply yeah, did I mean in retrospect when I
think about how much money we spent in that those
amount of days, and does everything we got out of it?
And like, I'll tell you what, I was more satisfied
with what I got out of what I paid than
I guess ESPN did, huh, because they didn't seem too
(20:03):
happy about about this Russell palooza and you know what, honestly, man,
like I wasn't happy either, Like we're gonna get into it,
but oh man, I really hope we're on the same page.
But then again maybe not. Uh oh hey, guess what
(20:28):
we had somebody acknowledge? Yes we did. Josh zetel Mooyer
at jay Z eighty five at cam At Edu said
he gave us five star review on this is our website.
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I love listening to him on my drive to work.
You guys are very funny and entertaining. Thank you, sir,
Thank you very kindly.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I know, John, thank you, Josh, Josh right, Josh or
Josh Josh, thank you Josh.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, I know, Josh. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Man.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
I'm gonna publish that on our page. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Man.
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Like, if you guys ever just want to leave a review,
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You know what?
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I I even the worst thing I'll ever do if
I ever get a hold of your phone laying around,
is I'll leave a five star review. And I'm not
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Somebody has left their their computer open at my job
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over to PCW and gaven five star review. And not
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I think, or maybe he just really enjoys our content
because he still tells me every time we drop an
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Speaker 4 (22:33):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah, right, all right? You know what I don't. I
don't think I have anything else? Man, Like you want
to get into this, pl E. Is there anything else
you want to talk about before we get into it?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Not really, I mean we can dive in. I will
talk about you know, ESPN's review of ww Russell Palooza.
Who yeah, go for it? So Hey, well, Wrestle Paloser
(23:16):
kicked off from the Gainbridge field House in Indianapolis, Indiana.
The crowd of just over fifteen thousand fans and attendance,
So kicking off the show match that previously we thought
(23:37):
was going to be the main event, that they had
kind of told at one point was going to be
the main event, but apparently, I guess, smarter, cooler or
whatever has prevailed. I guess as they were finally formalizing
the card, so we got kicked off with John Cena
facing brock Lester and what turned out to be a
(24:02):
glorified squash match. Rock Lesler started the match dominating, beat
the shit out of John Cena. John Cena attempted to
come back hit like three aas rock Lesler kicked out.
Rock Lesler said, I'll see your three aas and raise
(24:22):
you five f fives and one two three. My personal opinion,
that was a giant waste of fucking time for this
to be Sena's final run and all this hype, you know,
Senor versus Lester. Yeah, Hey, big names, Gottayata Mike, main event,
(24:47):
and we basically just get a rehash of what was
it their Summer Slam match or whatever from years ago
when brod Lesler came back and brought took Johnson to
the supplex city, except maybe not as many soup plexes,
but still basically just whooped his ass, dominated him, pinned
(25:09):
him like that was nobody wanted to see that, Nobody
was rooting for that, nobody was going for that. I
know we speculated that rock Lesler might win if there
was going to be a rematch, and you know, we
see Johnson eventually overcome or what have you. But if
(25:30):
that's how the first match is gonna go, not just
from it being in squashed and dominating but still the
same boring, spam our finisher bullshit, who the fuck wants
to see any of that again? Again? I did, I
never wanted to see it in the first damn place,
but that damn sure, I ain't gonna have nobody clamoring
(25:51):
for a rematch. That's not going to have anybody clamoring
for JOHNSONA to overcome rock Lesnar. In detail end, that's
just a waste and for john and for at this
point where he has so few matches, so few appearances
left period, and we wasted one of them on this
(26:12):
squatch match, whish. By the way, I said before the record,
I said beforehand, I didn't want to see this match
because I felt like it was a waste beforehand. But
this just doubly reinforced that notion for me. And yeah,
just why other than the fact that it's ESPN, it's
(26:35):
their first show with ESPN, we need to make it
quote unquote big, So we gotta have big names. So
but bigger name is there than brock lesnar I Guess
and John Cena and biggest names we got throw them
in a match, whatever, fucking waste the time. What are
your thoughts on this one?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Wayne, I tell you what, Man, right at the gate,
let's go. I'm pretty pissed myself.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Man.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You know, I should have known when the match got
moved last minute. That's kind of I think when the
decision with backstage was kind of changed because I think
the original plans was for Sena to go over. I
don't know exactly why they changed. What their bigger picture
is here, because I'm a little confused. Man, Like I'm
(27:28):
reading here on Sports Illustrated that the never seen seventeen
WWE World Champion is not expected to be back on
ww programming until Saturday, October eleventh, when he is scheduled
to appear at Crown Jewel in Perth, Australia. Scene has
also been booked for two episodes of Monday Night Raw
(27:50):
in November in Boston and New York respectfully as well respectively,
as well as Survivor Series, and finally, his retirement match
will take place at Saturday Night Main Event in December.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
The other one I couldn't remember. Yeah, so like earlier
about yeah no, I was talking with a coworker earlier
about seeing his final appearances, and I knew it was crowd.
I know we had five Crowdjewel, Survivor Series, Saturday Night
Main Event RAW at MSG, and I could not, for
the life me remember what the last one was. But
(28:31):
I forgot that. There there's another Raw scheduled for Boston. Yeah, Boston,
get but did we already do that? Was it raw?
Just was that Raw or SmackDown? It was just at Boston,
wasn't that? And we already had that?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
But well SmackDown. I know Brock showed up the SmackDown
looking for Sina and and and I was like, well, dude,
like he's not here, like because Johnston is on Raw
dumb ass.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
But yeah, well they did the thing with I've seen
his last ever smacked Down apparent.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah, that was another thing. It's like, Brock, did you
not watch SmackDown like last week? Seeing it was here
last week and he was like, I'm never coming back.
He's to come on, man, Like, Brock, you need to
watch your own fucking product. Man, keep up. He showed
all the way up. There was like where is John?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Give him to me?
Speaker 5 (29:19):
He's gone, man. I was like last week he don't
go here no more.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
H don't give enough to follow the product.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Dude, Like I don't know what the big plan is
because you know now then I'm reading on a couple sources.
Body slam Net sources indicate as of uh Saturday that
there will be no oh no Saturday morning Johnsena schedules
(29:49):
to defeat Brock Lesner at Wressel Plusa's sources. I'll indicate
that both Cody Roads and True McIntyre pitch Rainy.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Or and get to that.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Yeah, it made it's like there's no rematch schedule and
like that kind of makes me like scratch my head,
like okay, so like we're not doing a rematch because
he's not going to Australia.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
But we also got.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
The fans were kind of chanting, you know, like AJ Styles,
like we know we want an AJ Styles match, and
I guess John Cena tweeted out something to Triple Each
about it, and and AJ Styles is you know, down
for it, whether it's like it was something that naturally
happened or like it's all a work either way, like
(30:37):
if we got four dates left, like just man, just
come on out, cut your promo, you know whatever, let's
ring the bell man, like let's see a classic, Like
I'll stay up late on a Monday night to see
John Cena versus AJ Styles in the Madison Square Garden
or or in Boston. You know, mm hmm. I don't
(31:03):
want to burn it. I don't want to burn it
all on a Broccolisnter feud because if they don't plan
for a rematch, then okay, let's burn these last five
appearances on something fantastic. And said him just coming out
and saying, oh, I'm gonna miss this place, like this
is my last time in Boston, this is my last time,
(31:23):
all right, man, Like we got five dates. I'm fucking sweating, man,
because I don't know what they're gonna do, because this
match I did not understand it. The amount of AA's
and then the kickout, and then the amount of f fives,
and then the kickout, and then you know, I just
didn't understand it like this. This should have been the
(31:47):
opposite of what we got in Summer Slam of twenty
fourteen with the sixteen sup plexes. This should have been
Super Sena one last run beaten the adversary that he's
had problems with his almost his entire career. At some point,
at some point in his career, in different stages, he
(32:07):
has come across brock Lesner. You know, it doesn't matter
if he escapes the feud, he gets his ass whooped.
But at the end of the day, brock walks away
and leaves for a while, and you know, John Cena
is still still standing even though he got his ass whooped.
And then a couple months later, a couple of years later,
brock Lester comes back whoops his ass again. It just
(32:29):
seems like I get it.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
But at the same time, with the as far as
like the whole the rematch thing one with as bad
as this match has been, why would anybody want a rematch?
And two, when have they ever had a good match together? Right? Yep?
I believe they had one match together during Lesler's first run,
(32:55):
But at that point John Cena was still an up
and comer. I think maybe at yes, he was a
US champion, but and you do have to probably search
to find that match, so I couldn't tell you whether
that was a decent match or not. But everything that
they've had in in Lessler's second run and Sena as
(33:15):
the face of the company or you know, the man
has been every match has sucked. Every match has been trash.
Virtually every damn near every Brock Lesner match in his
second run has sucked. I still, for the life we
don't understand why people pop so huge for Lesler now,
(33:37):
why people are why he's such this big deal other
than size and name. And yes, the man is a
mammoth of a human fucking being. Yes he has a
presence about him, especially in w w E and in
the realm of giants, he is a giant among them.
But his matches are just not good. They had the
(34:04):
same shit Germans F five's clothes lines. Like if I
could see the one Lesler match that he had that
I thought was entertaining. It would be the last man
standing match he had with Roman Reigns at Summer Slam,
and it took a fucking forklift for them to jack
(34:27):
up the ring with Roman falling out of it and
the dumping half to freaking set on top of Lesler
at the end to make that match entertaining. Other than that,
second Run, Lesner has been so fucking mediocre, just big
guy doing big bully shit sucks like I'm it is
(34:52):
night and day. My feelings for First Run Lessner versus
Second run, Yeah, First run Lessler was a goddamn lew
That man was putting on classics with Kurt Angle, That
man had iron Man matches with Kurt Angle wrestle Mania moments.
He made me believe that Big Show had finally found
(35:13):
his muse to be a permanent big name main eventor
because he and Big Show had chemistry in the ring together.
Big Show the guy who was just big, slow and
show that was it show, But him and Lesner in
the ring together worked. It was so perfect together. Him
(35:38):
at Big Show and Lesler could have been like Rock
and Triple H in the ring together. That's how good
first Run Lesner was. That he made a he made
a main eventor a legitimate bona fide main eventor and
rival and compelling feud with the Big Show. This motherfucker
(35:59):
this post UFC. Dude, it's just no fucking boring to me.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I I dude, I understand the frustration.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
I think too.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
What's what's frustrating most of us is it feels like
a waste, like an absolute waste for us. Uhh whether
I just I just feel like at this point in
time that in this point in his career, this is
where he should have putting Lesner away and walked and
(36:38):
you know, into the sunset, uh and send Lesner off
and Lesner as well, like that man as well does
not have much time left. I mean, I know he
is in the best shape of his fucking life. And
don't get me wrong, and that man came out and
this is from one man, no homo, to another man.
It's like, God damn, that man is like built perfectly.
(36:58):
He's a fucking jack Bee east Man. The fucking entrance
with that light just hits him just right. It's like,
fucking he's the moster man, just like the juice dude
whatever bro likes. You know what, Sometimes I wish we
just had like you could be the biggest freak you
(37:18):
want to be. Whatever, this is sports entertainment anyway, I'd
rather see Brock feed with other people. He hasn't wrestled yet.
I really like to see Brock and Gunter. I like
to see Brock and Braun breaker, you know, like I
(37:42):
want to see some other matches before Brock is ready
to hang it up, because, let me tell you, a
couple of months ago, we all thought Brock was done.
We thought he was cooked. Is what the younger generation
of kids like to say that he was cooked until
you know, prizally he came back.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
But uh.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Yeah, I give me an AJ Styles master for John Cena,
give me ah. I don't know who else we got
left I want to see.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
But it's.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Are we saving the best for last? What's the what's
the best? What's the best for last?
Speaker 4 (38:21):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (38:22):
It's not the rock, it's not the best for last?
What is the best for last? For John Cena?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
You know, you have no idea at this point. We're
just gonna wait for We're just gonna wait to see
what's announced because there's no hype there. They just announced
him versus AJ Styles just out of the blue, like,
all right, next time we're gonna see him and he's
facing AJ Styles. Yeah yeah, Okay, where's the build up there? So,
(38:49):
I mean, what are we gonna have, Like, John ain't
gonna be on No Raw or SmackDown or nothing between
now and Crown Jewel. So are we just about to
have a couple of weeks of AJ Styles coming out
here cutting promos? Like no build up? There's literally none.
(39:11):
There's no build up, there's no hype, like, all right,
here's the next one, wait for it, Okay, And then
after that, maybe we might get some hype build up
for a summer for a Survivor series because he might
have an appearance or two. I don't know when the
the Boston or MSG raws are scheduled in between Crown
(39:31):
Jewel and Survivor series, So maybe we get a match,
or I mean, maybe we get an appearance for some
side of a build up for whatever the fuck he's
gonna do at this point. At this point, we just
bring it on the end.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
I have an idea, man, I have an idea. Who
it is, mister McMahon, fucking Vince, Oh god, maybe the
biggest shock in all of the world, all of the world. No,
(40:13):
thank god, it won't be Vince. Yeah, I have no idea,
but anyway, that match we were referred to some older
John Cena broccolas or matches if you really, you really
want to go back and dig. A lot of these
are ere SmackDown first time. They cross paths with SmackDown
(40:35):
September at the time, yep, September nineteenth, two thousand and two.
A squash match November thirteenth, two thousand and three, that's
a SmackDown that was a fatal four way or no,
I think it was a tax team. Yeah, tax Team
with Ben Wat and there's the big show involved. Then
(40:59):
back Life two thousand and three, this is when you
first I get there.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That might be.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
He defended his WW championship against John Sena in the
first ever pay per view match. I think that was
a pretty decent one. And then there's SmackDown February twelfth,
two thousand and four. That one had Eddie Guerrero as
(41:26):
his partner. Oh my god, somebodys are just goofy. It's
just like I'm trying to look for like Elies involves
like other people like Shenantikins.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
They didn't have any matches with them at their peak.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
During exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
That's the thing is like John Cena wasn't at his
peak during Leslon's first Roe Lesner. John Cena didn't come
up until Lesnard left. Yeah, you know what, four Lesson left,
Johnsena was in the mid guard, you know who.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
We did that with that with a couple of guys
where it's like these guys
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