Episode 98 Crown Jewel Perth 2025 Predictions

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:07):
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Let me talk to her.

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you guys want to talk about?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Me and the colored red in a world with a
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Speaker 5 (01:32):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Channel Volley just welcome
back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I'm
your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken, and
I am going to be with my co host. We
are going to be doing predictions for Crown Jewel Perth.
We're going all the way down under to Australia. But

(01:55):
I'm not alone today, so I will bring in my
co host and let's get it right to it.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Oh so, hey, hey, it might have been tell you
now it's just me, okay, dang.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
It joking me, dang chunk me okay, dang this d
lot of moll.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
I'm knock of dad.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I'm back then I did.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Hey, it's on me now it's hi.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Hey, I'm gonna get him all. I'm gonna get him all.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Oh you.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Hont you welcome back?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Whose yo yo? What it do?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Pc W crew made event dre Uso was back on
your podcast.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
This is our episode ninety eight, closing in, closing in on.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
That one hondo, which means that one hundred.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, I guess we'll be between Crown Jewel and uh
Survivor series.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, we'll create in there.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Yeah, definitely. I have to get on it right away,
not like, uh, I feel I get too What happens
is I get too relaxed, right and I'm just I
like sit back in the chair and get a little relaxed,
and then somebody like you or Doyle or Carlos remind
me like, hey, we got to do a review next week.
A fuck, that's right always right around the corner.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
So yeah, might as well go ahead and might as
well go ahead and put it out there now. Then,
since this is ninety eight, which is the preview, ninety
nine is going to be the review.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
So somewhere between.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
The review and Survivor Series we will record episode one hundred.
So if you want to be on, just go ahead
and uh reach out some time on your calendar or
reach out to what you want to be on for
episode one.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Yeah, because I think the problem is going to be
just scheduling. I'm gonna have to find a day and
there's hopefully a majority of the people can make it work.
And I let people know ahead of time. So if
you want to chime in for like ten fifteen minutes
and then dip out, you know, say your piece, be out,
you know, come on and just be like no, fuck
yourself and then just you know, just just glitch out,

(04:29):
you know. But I'm sure, I'm sure everybody is gonna
have a lot more to say than than just telling
us that they're fucking marks or something. But uh, yeah,
it'd be cool. Man, another episode without Doyle. You know,
Doyle is on the road, busy, busy. Uh there is
a slight, slight chance you could join. And I was like, hey, man,

(04:58):
don't don't rush it. Like if we can't fitch in,
we can't fitch in.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
You know, it is what it is. We noticed that
time of year for him at it it's the busy
season for him at work.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
So yeah, yeah it's true. But uh, you know, we
still are able to insert him into the show some way, somehow,
always after production's done, you know, a little bit of
a you know, post production magic. They do it in
the movies all the time, So why can't Why can't

(05:33):
we do it on the podcast?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
You know?

Speaker 5 (05:36):
For all we know, maybe Doyle was never really with
us live. Maybe it was just all pre recordings of Doyle.
But I think I just get like just a bunch
of audio clips of him and just have him on
the soundboard.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
It's like, yeah, I totally agree with that. Oh that's
a bad idea. Christians a bitter wrestler than Edge. I
don't know whatever SoundBite I can think of him? Uh,
all right, man, you know what, let's I got some

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I got some topics I want to talk about here
before we get into this. Pl if you don't mind,
if you took my mind. Yeah, So, uh, did you
go and see The Smashing Machine?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Not as of yet. I do want to see it.
I just don't know if I want to go see
it in theaters. Well, guess I do want to see it.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
It bombed. It's open the weekend.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Weekend took in five point nine million in the US
box office. That's pretty pretty low for Johnson. Now, I
asked my brother. My brother was watching it, and he
was watching it from home, and uh, he goes, hey,

(07:02):
I'm gonna watch this Smashing Machine. I'll let you know
how well it is. You know, let me let you
know the review. I'm like, oh, dude, awesome. And then
like not even like a half hour later, he texted
his back. He goes, man, there's a lot of porn
in this, just a lot of sex scenes. And I go,
did you download the right movie the Smashing Machine. It's like,

(07:24):
I don't think you downloaded the right movie.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
No, no, no, that might have been a different Johnson
in that movie.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
It was rock hard oh man, but uh he was.
It was okay, Like, I'm like, thanks for the review. Thanks,
I appreciate it. So everybody listening to the show, who
does know my brother, you know how much he loves
watching movies and TV shows. Really rarely ever watches wrestling,

(07:54):
but like when he watches anything wrestling adjacent, like the
Rock in a movie, Who'll be like, oh what the
other movie goes it's for reveal? It was okay, all right,
so makes me is it?

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I still genuinely want to see it because I want
to see Rock's performance and see how he does. I
don't one thing I don't like is how everybody's been
using this is to try to pile on to him, like, oh,
his movie bombed at the bugs office, his movie bomb.
Guess he's coming back to w W And it's like, okay,
we get it. The Rock is known for blockbuster films,

(08:34):
but that's not what this movie was.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
And that's never what this movie was. No One.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Biopicks are not usually successful at the box office unless
it's about a very well known person or subject. You know,
think the Queen biopic. I think that one was a
fairly successful one or something like that. You know, yeah,
something like that, where the person that is very well known,

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Mark Kerr is not very well known, even if he
is one of the you know, I guess founding fathers
you could see are one of the early stars of
WEFC back before the UFC, back when it was just
Ultimate Fighting Championship, but he's still not that well known.
He has not been highlighted as much or featured as
much among the ogs like a like a Ken Shamrock

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or you know, other ones from that time frame. So
that's one thing, and this was I think this for
some people have said it's been more of a passion
project for.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Dwayne Johnson.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I don't know if it's a passion project, per see,
because I don't know that this is something that he
sought out to make. I think the opportunity came to
him and he took it. I do think he was
motivated to show his people that he can actually be
a serious dramatic actor and proved that part to critics.
And if he accomplishes that, then I think that's successful enough.

(10:05):
You know, people were giving it early Oscar buzz I
don't know if that's still there some of the reviews.
I have seen some people give his performance good reviews,
and I'm curious to see that. But the fact that
it didn't make a ton of money in this open weekend,
I could care less. I didn't expect this movie to

(10:25):
be that type of film. I wasn't expecting this thing like, oh,
this is the rock smashing Machine, just gonna do thirty
million or forty to fifty million this open the weekend.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
No, it wasn't. It was never gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
It was never gonna do that. It's not, you're right, man, like,
it's absolutely the subject alone was was hard to probably
pull people in, and then just who he was playing,
you know, because I honestly, when I saw the trailer,
I was like, I have no fucking idea who that is,
Like you know what I mean? Like, but like later,

(11:01):
I don't know if it's next year we're getting a
biopic on Michael Jackson and it's just called Michael. It's like, yeah,
I'm going that.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I see something like that is going to do big
numbers at the movie theater, especially especially if.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
That trailer looks good.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, if that trailer comes out and that and the
person that's playing Michael Jackson, who apparently is a family member,
if that person's playing Mike and they we look at
that trailer, we see Mike and all the other actors
look like their characters. That's the type of movie that
will top the box offices open the weekend. That's the
type of movie, especially Michael Jackson. Yeah, that's the type

(11:40):
of movie that could you know, you could see that
doing fifty plus million open the weekend, if not more. Again,
it's really gonna inge on what that trailer does when
it comes out. But I mean, if that trailer get
has does anything positive to get people hype for that film,
that thing's gonna blow it out the water. But again,
that's Michael freaking Jackson, right, Mark Kerr right now.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
I mean obviously they got the right man to play
the part. But like, I just feel like it doesn't
matter who you had, was gonna say it was gonna
make that movie millions.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean no, the only selling point of Smashing Machine
was Dwayne Johnson in a dramatic performance. That was the
selling point. That was the interest, and that's only going
to pull in. But so many people. Again, there may
be played people who are like me who were curious
about it, who want to see it, they just ain't

(12:37):
about to go out to the movie theater to go
see it.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Yeah, there's a bunch of movies out there that I
honestly can say that I don't think I would have
watched unless you know, the Rock was in it, Like
Skyscraper Nope, San Andreas, Nope. I don't think i'd watch
in those movies if there's somebody else in those. But
it was Jumanji, even the were one, Uh, what's the

(13:02):
one with Emily Blunt? Not the one he just did,
not this one. There's another one, Jungle Cruise. You know,
Like there's just certain ones that he did where it's
just like there's just bad movies. But like I saw
them because it was the Rock, Like the Rock was
in it, you know, like right exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Sod not bother to see in theaters.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
No no, no, I'm not saying no no, no, I didn't.
I didn't fucking go to I didn't run the theaters
for those fucking movies. Like I was like, oh my god, dude,
I got I pre ordered my tickets for Skyscraper. I
cannot fucking wait.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Once they his stream and I was like, okay, yeah,
let's let's see what this.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
For me this when this comes to streaming, I will
check it out. I am intrigued because I saw when
when they had a showing of it and he was
there and he got like a standing ovation for it,
you know, like.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
On the festival. Yeah, on the film festival circuit. He's
got ovations. So it has my interest and it has
my curiosity. And should you know, award season come around
and we start seeing him getting some nominations and even
some wins.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's gonna bode well for this movie.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
That's gonna make people want to check it out because
it's like, oh, oh, maybe if these that it.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Works all the time.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, especially.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Did not see in theaters.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, plenty of movies I did not see in theaters
that I had no interest in, but then they rack
up at award season and I'm like, Okay, I need
to check that one out if it's that good. Perfect example,
I can tell you right off the top of my head,
the Whale, the movie with Brendan Fraser that he won
Best Actor for. Yeah, Yeah, that it was that one

(14:48):
right there, Like he won Best Actor, is getting all
these awards.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I need to check that movie out, and that movie
is phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's good, it's emotional, it's gut wrenching, but it's a
phenomenal movie. And I and you see it, like I
see why he won the Oscar. I see why he
won it. Totally get it. So there are movies that
are like that, and Smashing Machine could turn out to
be one of those. I think the only reason why
people are even talking about it so much is because

(15:16):
it's Dwayne Johnson.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
If it had been just a regular movie with just
some you know, no name actor giving a phenomenal performance
that was getting award buzz, we would we would barely
even know this movie existed until award season, and then
our body. We were talking about, Hey, this new guy or
this actor. You know, he played this fighter and it's phenomenal.
He's getting all this praise. Yeah, yeah, blah blah blah

(15:38):
because of his performance and okay, yeah, and then we
would all hear about it.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
This is not and and for people who are like, oh, well,
his career is done, he's going back to wrestling, right,
Like no, like just just taking an l like this,
you know, five point nine mil, Like I mean, yeah,
that's not a lot to at all to bring in,
but like the Rock can take a loss, you know
what I mean, Like on this, I mean I don't

(16:08):
know what his next.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
And he.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Really the one taking the loss, Like it's the studio,
the financial exactly hit for it.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Like loss he takes is in his you know now
it's in his library of maybe one of his lowest movies. Maybe, sure, Right,
that's that's all it is. Like it's gonna hurt.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Award season all that goes away exactly. People.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, people talk about it like yeah, oh he's gonnah
that movie flopped. He's coming back to w W Right, Yeah,
did y'all forget that this is one of the busiest
people in the world. He ain't some guy who's just
starting out in Hollywood trying to make a name for himself.
And oh he got a big chance in this movie.
Oh well it flopped. Oh man, guess how was not

(17:00):
gonna work out? Hey, wrestling fans, you want me back? Like, no,
this man has business ventures with an s. He is
constantly doing something. So if this one movie doesn't, you know,
blow it out the water financially, he onto the next thing,

(17:23):
the next thing he got to work on, whether it's
the next film project he has or whatever else in
his business that has been that eats up his time
all the time, that keeps him away from w W.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Plus, he's in his fucking fifties. What's he coming back for?
He ain't.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
He ain't got no reason to come back unless for
some reason he feels feels compelled to, I don't know,
wrap up something with John Cena.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
Yeah, and to everybody, oh go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
It was like, yeah, I mean doubtful that that because
that he would do that, because it's not really much
reason for that, Like, there's no reason for him to
come back. There's no need for him to come back,
Like one do something with the people, you got on
the damn roster. We don't need Rock coming up and
eating up time that could be going towards something else, right,

(18:19):
And I'm pretty sure people don't want to see him
do another pump fake either. I'm a pop up lude
to something to tease something and then nothing ever comes
about from it.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Like now he's busy.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Let him do all the things that he does and
let the product be what it is.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah, and just to put stuff in perspective for people. Yeah,
this movie didn't make the biggest amount of money, but
this man has what I think personally will make a
billion dollars. Is his next film, and his next film
next year is live action Molanna. I think very well.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Could that very well could make first the first two
across the billion, the first across the billion dollars.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I'm a grown ass man with no kids. I want
to go see Moana, you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (19:12):
Like I seen the first one. I haven't I saw
the first one. I haven't seen second one. Second one
is I think for me the second one. The music
isn't as catchy as the memorable as the first one,
like the first one. Like I could be like you know,
at work, and I.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Could like, you know, I could be singing that ship,
but like I can't remember any song from the second one,
but it was.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
So Disney movies.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah, and not just Moana, like twenty twenty seven. This
man's gonna be in Fast X Part two, so that's
gonna make some money as well.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
And he's also apparently got a Jumanji three in the
works as well.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, oh yeah, I did see that another Ji movie.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
The man got blockbusters coming.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
He gonna be I He's he's still demand, he's still
gonna be one of the highest paid actors, still gonna
be busy as hell, and y'all still gonna keep talking
about him, whether he's laughing all the way to the
bank or bombing all the way to the bank.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Right, And it's not the money wise, it's not the
biggest flop of the year.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Nope.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
The biggest flop of the year according to Google, which
I also agree with, was snow White this year had
a budget of two hundred and seventy million and only
brought in two hundred and six million worldwide. Yeah, so you.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Want to talk about Millney, that's when I'm surprised that
much worldwide. Yeah, And again that's a budget of two
seventy that's just to make the film.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
That ain't counting mating and motion and all that on
top yep.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
And you know what, this might This might hurt some
fans out there of the Rock. This might hurt us
a little bit. But uh, guess whose movie made thirty
five million and fifty million global and only had two
weeks of advertisement before it hit theaters. Taylor Swift showgirl.

(21:14):
I mean, it's the life of a showgirl. Can you
believe that's Swift?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I know, right out anything, people are going to show
up for it.

Speaker 9 (21:24):
Fifty million, that bitch, fifty million.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
I'm not a swiftie, so I give a shit less.
But still I thought that was a funny fact. All right,
What else.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Did I have?

Speaker 4 (21:38):
I wanted to bring not as funny as not as
funny as that movie him losing out to an anime film,
oh yeah, and getting not even losing out, getting smoked
by that Demon Slayer film, yeah, which I did see.
And that Demon Slayer film was phenomenal, dude.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
We are down to two appearances left for John Cena
and one final appearance. We have two remaining appearances. November tenth,
Raw in Boston, Massachusetts. Great location for him. He's gonna
get so much love there. November seventeenth, raw in New

(22:22):
York City, Massive Square Garden. Yep, that's gonna be that's
gonna be very memorable. And then December thirteenth, Saturday Night
main event in Washington, d C. That's his final appearance. Now, Yeah,
I heard a rumor going around, and I don't know

(22:45):
how much truth there is to it, but apparently they're
thinking about doing a tournament, hosting a tournament to figure
out John Cena's last opponent.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
That would has already been rumored in.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Leaked, Yeah, rumored and leaked.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
He's the purpose of the tournament is Gunther.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
That's the rumor and leak and and honestly, like I
was like okay, okay, Like somebody knew somebody he's never faced,
somebody he's gonna put over. And I was just like okay,
Like I was okay with that fucking decision like this,

(23:27):
like Gunther has been built up to be the man
to do it. Like if there's anybody on the roster
who hasn't right now, who's active, who deserves that position
to be that last match, who's not a somebody who's
had a match of seen it, and we're talking about
somebody fresh. I think Gunther's the man. The man spent
ninety percent of his fucking career with gold around his waist. Like,

(23:53):
I think it's an awesome idea.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I'm not mad at it. I don't.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
I don't hate the idea of Gunter being his final opponent.
It's ship well, I mean, obviously we haven't seen Gunter
on television since what since dropping.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
The world title mm hm, he's it's been off for
a while.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
So I mean at some point you got to bring
him back and somewhat build up this match. And if
you're gonna go, if you're still gonna go with the
tournament route, despite the fact that it's already leaked, then
I don't know. I guess for us marks it's gonna kill.
It kind of be a buzzkill because we're basically watching
something that's predetermined because we already know, like, okay, we yeah,

(24:38):
this guy he's gonna win. Yeah, he's gonna win. Yeah,
he's gonna just get to the Gunster part. Maybe maybe
they pivot, maybe they still go that route.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
We'll see.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
But yeah, I mean, I don't hate guns being Johnsena's
final opponent. Right, if we have to be interesting to
see how Red Johnson's chest is gonna be, what are
you done?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
He ain't that? He ain't that?

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Tan john seen it from the two thousands. He bought
as pasty white as could be. Now, man, yeah, damn
Shamus status.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Laugh because it's sucking true.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
It'll be some nice farewell photos, big old red chest
Johnson a waving by to the fans.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
I could see them announcing this tournament and you know,
Gunter like making his return then, Like I'm inserting myself
in this tournament, like I've won tournaments like this before.
I've won King of the Ring, like this is like
no other tournament. I've retired wrestlers before, like Goldberg, like
I can retire John Cena as well, like you know

(25:51):
what I mean, Like i'd be like fuck so true though,
like all right, let's do it, like if that's what
if that's but Gunster's gonna be done between now and
building up Gunter between now in December, like just the momentum.
Fucking I'm all good man, let's do it. Listen, whoever,
and I think too, whoever they put in this tournament

(26:13):
is going to be really cool, Like, who do you
put in this tournament? Right? Do you put like a
bunch of people who face sing it in the past.
Do we put like the Mizzy.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I think that's the best way to make it.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Interesting, right, like like because if it's.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
A bunch of new people, then okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
But if it's a bunch of people who are facing
it in the past and now it's not about beef
or anything more, it's just about the honor of being
seen as last opponent.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
And then you have Gunter run through all those.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
People, like you know, say he beats see him Punk
in the first round.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, beats you.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Know AJ Styles or whatever in the quarterfinals or something
like that, or beats aj in the first round, beats
see him I mean see him Punk in the quarterfinals,
and then beats like Randy Yorton in the final.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Then maybe there's some interest there.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Maybe there's something like that because you know, he makes
it makes a compelling argument for Gunter, or makes a
strong build up for you know, I ran through your
past and now you're the last one I need to
put last one to put down.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Man, dude. I think it's a good idea, Like the
more and more you and me talk about it, I'm
kind of getting excited, but like I'm excited on something.
I hope that fucking pants out that way. But I
mean that's like that's I guess that's what that's fantasy booking,
Like that's how we we hope it goes like it can't.
You can't fuck this up. I mean, yeah, you're setting

(27:41):
it up. You can't. You can't fuck this up. Like
his two appearances, let's I don't know what they have
planned for November tenth and seventeenth. Like, I kind of
just don't want to see him just get in the
ring to shoot the shit. I kind of want to
see him wrestle, but I don't think we're gonna just
get that on a whim, Right.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
It'd be nice if he wrestled all those two appearances
for Boston and at MSG, Right. Yeah, Even despite all
of this, though, there's still a small part of me
that still wishes they could somehow find a way.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
To get Edge in here. God dude, for one of
these final four.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
I know, I hear about it, I think about it.
I'm just like Jesus, could you imagine like the fucking
pop Like if a AE w let him go for
like a fucking match, just.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Right, just for one, just one time. Let him pop up.
Let that you think you know me music hit while seeing.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
In the ring. Shit fucking blow the roof off of
wherever they at.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
What do you think if like, even if he didn't wrestle,
if he just made like an appearance at Madison Square Garden,
just just I don't know, even in Boston. I guess
didn't they fight in Boston?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
They may have.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
I know they fought in Canada. Edge lost. But that
is good possibility.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
But yeah, go ahead that it would make for a
good moment. And I would you know if that were
to be the compromise, like, okay, y'all, we will let
Edge show up, but he can't work a match for y'all. Right,
And if it was just an appearance in the ring,
you know, to talk, shake his hand, give him a
hug or whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I'm cool with that. The main thing about it is
just it has to be.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
A surprise to everyone because that's how you get the pop,
That's how you get the moment. Yeah, is the scene
is out there and then out of nowhere, Edge just
music hits. That's the key thing. Whether it's a match
or not. You just got to get that surprise moment.
Even if you can manage to surprise John Cita, Like
if he doesn't even know Edge is coming, that would

(29:50):
make it even better. Oh yeah, he's just out there
just cutting the promo doing whatever, and all of a
sudden they just surprise him out of no word.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Just you think you know me? Come on god?

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Yeah, because you know what, Like I think Edge has
his returns have made me pop like pretty hard. Like
there's very few wrestlers who have returned multiple times, and
I've popped like hard for it, and like, you know,
John Cena has done that. Edge definitely has done that,
especially like when we all thought he was retired and

(30:23):
done and when he showed up with that fucking rumble,
like I jumped out of my fucking seat, like out
of my seat, popcorn everywhere.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Like oh everybody lost it then.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
Ah, dude, Like yeah, this would be another one of
those moments for me, Like it would just be like
I didn't think this would be possible to see these
two in the ring again, Like it's one of his
biggest rivalries, Like it's in his career, like a huge
fucking staple in his career like sucks. I mean, it
is what it is, you know, just.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
The yeah, among the.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Among all the criticisms or critiques or whatever that people
can have about how this last run that's gone. I
think I ain't saying this is the worst thing that's
done by any means, but I think this will definitely
be looked at as one of the biggest disappointments of
seeing his final run is that we never got him
in edge one last time. Yeah, even if it's completely

(31:21):
out of w W in hands.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. It is a It is a
window that has been missed and we'll never see again.
But that's what Peacock is for. You can go back
and watch all those matches.

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Speaker 7 (32:56):
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Speaker 5 (34:05):
Alright and we are back. Uh okay, yeah, So TENA
and NXT showdown. It was October seventh, which was yesterday.
I did catch the women's and the men's match, the
Survivor Series style match. I did catch clips of the

(34:31):
NXT Tag match with the Hardy Boys blah blah blah blah.
And I also saw that NXT North American Championship Ethan
Page defeated Mustafa Ali to retain the title NXT Tag Titles. Like,
it's great see the Hardy's winning the tag titles. I

(34:51):
do recall many many months ago the Hardy's tweeting and
mentioning like about how cool it would be to go
to NXT, you know, and win those titles there because
those are the title one of the titles that they
haven't won yet. And I was like, man, that'd be cool,
but like, how do we get there? Well, it took

(35:12):
a while, but we finally got them there. I never
thought i'd see the Hardy Boys holding NXT gold ever.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Actually, I'll it was pretty cool seeing a certain wrestlers
on NXT. H I found find the Hardy's there pretty
cool seeing Uh when I was watching the women's tag match,
seeing Jesse McKay and Cassie Lee, who were originally the iconics,

(35:42):
they were they they came from NXT, so it's nice
seeing them back there, knowing like where your fruits are? Uh,
oh god, I'm gonna the women's match, dude was is

(36:04):
it was rough, Like it had good moments like we
you know, we got the soul Snatcher, you know, always
fucking great, moved, great moment, but we got like a
lot of botches. Even the the girl on the microphone watched,
you know, somebody got pinned and she announced that TEENA

(36:26):
won the match, Like I was like, oh yeah, Like
it was a couple of times, like just it's just
and I get it, Like this is where it happens.
This is where it's supposed to happen. If you're gonna
botch stuff, you're going to slip up on promos or
on the like, this is the place to do it.
This is what it's for. Sometimes when I'm watching NXT,

(36:49):
I forget that. Uh you know, we think that because
it's on paid television, we're expected to have the best
quality wrestling, right because it has the WW brand attached
to it, the name its own by you know, WW.
We're thinking, Okay, you're being trained by Sean Michaels, like

(37:11):
one of the best in ring wrestlers of all time.
Like you know, you're being you know, guided with promo
classes and stuff by some of the best wrestlers ever,
and you know, but we still don't remember these these
guys are green as goose shit, some of these people.
And it's hard. It's fucking hard. Like when I see
the videos of like the tryouts, Like how many people

(37:33):
go and do tryouts and just don't make it. It's
it's crazy. So when the people that are there that
are on TV, I mean, like I just think of
how hard it was just to get to that point. So,
you know, and you know what else I thought of
with all these botches? What could be the issue? You know,

(37:58):
this is very common, but like when you have so
many working moving parts in the ring at once, when
you have eight women and one female ref, you know,
that's a lot of people in that ring. A lot
of stuff is going down at once. And these are
also for coworkers you've never worked with before. I mean,

(38:21):
you think about it, your job, maybe there's an adjacent
job that's somewhat similar to what you do for a living,
just different company name. Imagine if they just took a
whole half of that company and brought them over and
it's like, hey, you guys are gonna do the same job.
He's like, oh, well, you know, we never worked together.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
So that part, though, you can't really make an argument
for because of who was actually in the match, And
this is kind of one of the things that.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, to me was a bit of.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
A a gripe I had about this right Showdown after
they decided to not call it an invasion anymore. The
people who were on the TNA side of the for
the women's match, only two of them were genuine TNA

(39:13):
talent without any connection to NX.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
T really like that, all right.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Yes, the Iconics, I guess had some time in NXT
for when they you know, years ago, but for the
most part, they're pretty solid TNA. This match didn't feature
anybody who was just pure you know, TNA all the
way through and through. Kline Jordan, she's literally inn XT.
She just happens to be the TNA Knockouts Champion right now,

(39:41):
so that's so she's basically was betraying NXT just to
be on Team TNA, but she's literally an NXT talent.
Mars Mars i D just a few months ago, was
in NXT. That's Jakara Jackson. She was teamed up with

(40:01):
last Legend. We watched them have matches on SmackDown earlier
this year in the tag division of Jakar Jackson and
last Legend having tag matches.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
So again, she's an XT.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
She just signed with TNA maybe a few weeks ago,
so she hasn't been there that long. She's more or
less in an XT talent, So yes, she's worked with
all those NXT girls on Team ANXT before. She's worked
with Lola and Jada, and I'm pretty sure she's worked

(40:34):
with Soul, Ruka and j C Jane as well. I'm
pretty sure she's worked with all of them at some point,
So not that unfamiliar. Now the Iconics, those are the
only two, but they again, as you said before, they're
former WWE stars, so yes, they're in TNA now. But

(40:56):
there wasn't any real like home bred TNA talent in
this match. The closest you had to it was Jordan
Grace who was in as special guest referee. M So,
I mean that's just that was a gripe that I
had that, you know, for to be NXT versus TNA.
There really wasn't a lot of true TNA representation at

(41:18):
least in this match, right at all. And yeah, I
mean the match had his botches and stuff with this that,
here and there. I don't really get caught up in
too many of them unless they're really like obvious and egregious,
which this match did have won. And that's when Marsada
went for the moon Salt on Jada and.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Completely overshot it.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
But to their credit, at least when she overshot it,
she didn't pop up like she landed it. She sold
it like she missed and Jada kind of sold it
like you know, she was still trying to recover, so
you know, I'm not gonna kill him too bad for that.
The match overall was good and was at an entertaining match.

(42:05):
Just like most of the other matches on the CAR,
they were good. I don't think there was anything that
was really great. I thought it was a bit of
an odd decision having the Hardys win the NXT tag
titles versus you know, I mean, I guess it's just
odd just because it was the Hardies and they're the

(42:27):
old guys. But at the same time, you don't want
NXT making a clean sweep of everything, so TNA has
to get wins somewhere. So if TNA is gonna get
some wins, this is one place that you can do
it where it kind of works out because a it's
the Hardys, they're over, they're fan favorites. TNA gets a win,

(42:47):
and it gives you a reason to have the Hardies
back on NXT because they'll have to defend those titles
at some point, so it's a win. It works all
around for everybody, even if it is kind of whole
hum about, you know, the Hardy Boys becoming NXT Tag Champions.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Any thing.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I'll say probably the most interesting thing happened probably in
the men's match the UH.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
And their Survivor Series match.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
When Trick Williams basically walked out on Team NXT and
walked out on UH Ricky Saints, especially as he as
Trick Williams is currently the TNA champion.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Yeah, that was another thing too, having the TNA champion.
I get it, it's on the NXC roster, but like
that just to I don't know, you think you'd want
to have your TEENA champion like being the captain of
your TEENA team and the NXT champ, But like, I
don't know, I just the build up to me just
didn't feel like it was as important.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
It lost a lot of it's momentum. When they stopped
calling it an invasion and changed it to a showdown.
To me, that took a lot of the steam.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Out of it. Before then, it had interests, it had momentum.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I mean, people were actually talking about this storyline for
a while from when TNA people started showing up and
it was fighting. And if they'd have played up it's
more of an actual invasion angle, I think it could
have been more compelling. But once they'd made it just
a showdown where it's like, okay, TNA versus n XT,

(44:42):
then it kind of it lost the steam because now
this just feels like it feels like this was basically
just a one and done thing. Got together, we had
some matches, and now everybody's about to go back their
separate ways and we'll have fallout from whatever little individual
storylines that happened. But the whole overall company versus company thing,

(45:03):
it's probably done. Whereas when it was more of an
invasion thing, it felt like it could have been a
storyline that could have continued past this one show. This
could have been something that could have continued through the
end of the year or however long they wanted to
play it out. But that's obviously probably not gonna happen now.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
Yeah, well, you know what I also wanted to bring
up too, I can actually watch NXT now, so I'll
be able to watch NXT and SmackDown en Roll because
I am now Canadian. That is all all on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Welcome to sailing the high digital seedies.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Yep, you pushed and you're shoved, and I just it's
getting out priced, man, Like if it's not like the
tickets like I saw again, like tickets are up to
like you can spend up to eleven k to watch
Johnson his last fucking match, like eleven k for front

(46:22):
row seats at for a Saturday night main event, Like
are you out of your fucking mind? I'm curious, So
like when tickets get even closer to how much the
tickets are gonna be and how much they went for,
and you know, I'm so curious.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Something like this I think will sell because of seeing
his last match. This feels like a genuine what it
feels like it's going to be a genuine event. Yeah,
for sure, that's probably, you know, independent of the quality
of the show itself, regardless that the rest of the

(47:07):
matches are mediocre or have little to no build up
or any of that stuff. It doesn't change the fact
that it's still John Cena's last match. That alone is
gonna sell the fuck out of the show. Yeah, it's
not as something like it's not even like a WrestleMania

(47:29):
where you know, hey, if you miss WrestleMania this year,
there's always next year. Or if you miss this one
thing this time, hell, you know, they'll probably run it
back again or something like that, or you know, hey,
there's this big match. Well, this is the third time
these guys have wrestled, so you know we've seen that before.
This is a true one, you know, a one of

(47:49):
one event, a unique event that will happen one time
and one time only, never again.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
This one obviously. Yeah, the particular price is still insane.
But if anything warrants it, John Cena's final match does.
What did it matters to us from our end is
whether the show itself is gonna be worth a damn
on TV and whether the match is going to be

(48:20):
worth a damn.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
On TV watching it.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yeah, because from my perspective, I'm going to be comparing
it to the last final match in WWE that we got,
or the most recent one we had which was Edge
and Shamus and match that was a banger, an unexpected banger.
We didn't you know, everybody was like, okay, Ed Shamus,

(48:48):
they gonna gohet of Ah, He's gonna be a pretty
good match. That match turned out to be a fucking banger.
So this being John Cena's final match, it better at
least measure up to that.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Yeah, I mean we're spending like close to fucking eleven
K for front row seats. Geez, I about to get
a picture of Green Shirt guy too. I'm at it
if easy can even afford it. Ooh, I want to
bring up the bracket. I want to continue on here

(49:24):
with the bracket. I got an audio recording of Doyle's
opinion on last episode's bracket because we couldn't break the tie.
And if you chimed in last episode, we uh going
down the bracket of fantasy matches that we haven't gotten
never will. You know, Remember, these are wrestlers in their prime. However,

(49:51):
you envision this wrestler in their prime, and that's kind
of what we get into. How we envision this wrestler
in their prime, and how what match we would like
most likely to see, you know, In last episode, we
did Alberto Del Rio versus Eddie Guerrero versus Flair, Rick
Flair and Cody Rhodes and Doyle. Let's hear how you're

(50:14):
gonna break the tie?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Buddy, Hello, back again to I guess decide to bracket

(50:51):
from last week, So we got Eddie Guerrero versus Alberto
Del Rio.

Speaker 13 (50:59):
Or Rick Flair versus Cody Rhodes. Gotta be honest, this
one's pretty easy for me. I'm you know, I don't
love Flair as much as other people don't do. I mean,
I like him quite a bit, I don't, don't get
me wrong, and I don't find Cody all that compelling

(51:24):
at all. So fairly easy for me to go with
Eddie and Alberto del Rio. Eddie I absolutely fucking adore.
It may be part of that is because we didn't,
unfortunately get to see a shitty decline period.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
In his career.

Speaker 13 (51:44):
He sort of left us on a high note, no
pun intended. And Alberta de Rio is a fucking shit bag, asshole,
fuck face dickhead, but he's a guilty pleasure of mine.
What can I say? In fact, A little anecdote for you.

(52:04):
Just last night, I was taking the subway home and
this dude sits next to me, and it took me
a minute to figure out that he was a guy
that was a line cook for me fucking like fifteen
years ago with his restaurant I was managing. And he
speaks better English now didn't speak great English. And then
this is a Mexican gentleman.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
And I guess most.

Speaker 13 (52:26):
Of my I kind of forgot all about this, but
because most of our interactions were me saying saying, but
you already know that, I would say like, oh, you know,
Table fifteen needs another order of fries on the fly,
but you already know that.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
So he just.

Speaker 13 (52:46):
Plops down, and I'm like, what the fuck is this guy?
And he just goes but you already know that. I
was like, oh, hey, what's up, man? But yeah, so
I'm going with Eddie versus Alberto del Rio, But you
already know that.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
All right? Man, There you have it, birds with del
Rio and Eddie Guerrero. Move on, rightfully, so rightfully. So,
but I am ready for the next round, so ready
that I even reached out to Doyle to get his
opinion on it. Uh yeah, all right, So the next

(53:28):
match we have here listed alright, I haverock Lesner versus
the Heartbreak Kid Sean Michaels. Okay, we got those two.
Versus Brett Hart versus Edge. We got two Canadian boys.

(53:54):
So which match would you rather see? Brock Lesner and
HBK in their prime or Brett Hart versus Edge in
their prime? Man, that's a that's a tough one. Ah,
do you want to go first? Do you want me
to go first? Do you have any decision already made?

Speaker 6 (54:15):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Yeah, I'm a decisions already made. And it's easily, Yeah,
it's easily Brett Hart versus Edge. Just for the simple
fact that to me, brock Lesner versus Shawn Michaels just
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
On paper, right, just doesn't It just doesn't make sense, Like.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
Yeah, I don't see that as to me that that
never would pop in my head.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
As a fantasy match up.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
I mean, even if I'm counting what I considered to
be prime brock Lester, and that's three to oh four Lessner,
that's you know, to me, that's his prime. That was
the best Lessoner we got out the next big thing,
brock Lesner. Even putting that guy up against Shawn Michaels.
You know, whether you want to say Attitude Era was

(55:04):
his prime or comeback sean second run with Seawn was
his prime, either one of those. It just doesn't make
much sense to me. Again, why that How that is
a fantasy matchup completely different styles.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Yeah, it's it's two guys.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Who who who makeups and looks.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Right, there's two top stars who just never crossed paths.
I mean, the only little bit that we got of
these two crossing paths was when Triple H was feeding
with Brock and uh Brock puts Shawn Michaels in the
Komora Locke and quote unquote broke his arm. That was

(55:52):
the only and this is long after Shawn's retired, I
think as well. So that's the only like interaction these
two have ever had.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's somebody else I would have put
in a fantasy booking with Shawn Michaels way before I
would think of Brock Lester. I ain't gonna say who
it is because obviously we still have right it might
come up in a future match, so I don't want
to say it, But there's definitely a few that I would,

(56:22):
but I would fantasy book with Shawn Michaels that we
never got.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Wait before I would think of brock Lester.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Mm hmm, I think I know what you're stepping in,
pal and I can smell it, and I think I
like it. Ah. Yeah, like Bronxes has one drive man
just wreck everything and and leave pretty much just f
five people and leave. Like and Shawn Michaels puts on

(56:51):
great fucking matches. And I don't think these two can
put on a great fucking match. But you know who
I think could put on a good fucking match. Brett
Hart versus Edge. Now we're talking. I see. The thing
is is like I didn't I wasn't a huge bred

(57:13):
Heart fan, right, So I wasn't a huge bread Heart
follower when he left. After he left in SummerSlam. After SummerSlam,
I was like, all right, whatever, you know I was.
I was content with losing Brett in w W yeah,
Survivor Series, not SummerSlam. I was content then losing him.

(57:40):
So I didn't I didn't know Brett in his peak.
I guess because when I I guess when he was
WAF champion those few amount of times, he didn't hold
him many times either, definitely not.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
His I mean not by he may not have held
it by like you know, Randy Orton or Johnson.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
No, no, no, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
He's held at a number of I want to say
he's at least though five for six time champion.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
Yeah, I'm about to look that up right now. Brett
Hart's official significant title of ring include five w w
F World Champions, two w w F Inter Continentals, two
w w F Tag Team and he won King of
the Ring twice. So yeah, that's some pretty good. I mean,
I mean like Edge by far has way more, but

(58:36):
still like Grand Slam Champions, both of them through and
through both of them.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
You know, Edge has all those world tag title runs.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
Yeah, dude, I mean, we gotta.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Put some respect on Bret hard name now though still
wanted the best to do it in the ring.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
Yeah. Five time champ, you know, two time w c
W champions, which now you know we include with with
with the title wins, you know, so you could just
say he's a seven time world champion, you know, four
time United States Champion, which is still the current United
States Championship title. You know, one time, one time, when

(59:18):
was this one time w CW Tag Team champion with
Goldberg out of all people that he hates more than
anybody on this planet. That man was a tag champ
with Goldberg. Jesus Chris, I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, those were the late w c W day's where
they were falling off.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
The cliff right right, and yeah and Edge. I mean
I could sit here and name it all day, but
this man is just title off the title. He's won
of them all, and he's one of them multiple times
more than you know, fingers I can count. H I
think the promos would be amazing. I think the in

(01:00:07):
ring wrestling would be great. I think Brett Hart would
have to be the face and Edge would be the
Rated R Superstar heel, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Yeah, I could definitely see it be in that going
that way.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Yeah, I mean for now. The timing of their gimmicks.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Yeah yeah, Rated R Superstar is probably peak Edge definitely.
And as far as peak Brett Hart, Brett Hart at
his best, you're pretty much going New Generation era.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
It's probably the peak of Brett Heart.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Any point from ninety one or ninety two through ninety
probably through the screw Job. It's probably what most people
would consider it be peak Brad Hart pretty much when
he was the face of one of the faces, leader

(01:01:07):
of the new generation, because he was the one that
was the champion. He was pretty much the face of
you know, WWE at that time, the captain of the ship.
That was his peak. And he worked some great matches,
I mean things. Brett Hart could work with anybody in
the ring. Yeah, didn't matter who it was, whether it
was you know, somebody that could match him step for step,

(01:01:29):
like a Shawn Michaels, end him having that classic Iron
Man match at WrestleMania twelve, or if he's in the
ring with you know, five hundred pounds Yokozuna, he could
pull off a great He could have a great match
with anybody. So him and Edge, oh yeah, they would
have a phenomenal match. And that's not to say that

(01:01:51):
Shawn Michaels and Brett Hart, I mean and Shawn Michaels
and Brock Lester couldn't pull off a good match. That's
why I would disagree with you. I think they could
actually pull off a great match. If it's First Run Lessner,
if it's next Big Thing Lesner, if it's Easterncarnate.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Or you know, the one in twenty one and one
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
If it's second run Lesner, then you're gonna get a
ship match, because he's just gonna German suplex the living
fuck out of Shawn Michaels and Sean being is you know,
if he decides to be in his petty bag that night,
would probably oversell the living hell out of him.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Right like he did with the whole cast Summer Slam.
Like right, I could see all the German Suplexes doing
like three backflips like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Oh, I can see Sean being disgrundled having to work
with a guy who's got two moves in his repertoire,
you know, German Suplex and F five and like, so
you tell me, I gotta try to pull out some
a match with this dude and basically let him German
suplex me for the next ten minutes. Yeah, Sewn will

(01:02:57):
take a German Suplex and fucking cartwheel out of the
ring and ship and be absurd about it. Yeah, you
put him in there with the first one who could
actually cook.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Let's not forget.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
I'm pretty sure the last time I could be wrong
about this, but the last time I can think of
that WWE ran a legitimate Iron Man match was Brock
Lesnar and Kurt Angle.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Yeah, they may have done one.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
They may have had one in the years when I
wasn't watching, but that's the last one I can think of.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
And that match was a banger.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
And because they had two guys who could pull off
that kind of a match, two guys who could genuinely
go in the ring for an hour.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
Yeah, that's true. Like an iron there isn't many people
who've done Iron Man matches, and Brock has been in one,
like Sean Michaels has been one too, but not yep,
but like Shawn Michaels can always put on long matches.
Actually is a yeah, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
But he but he can.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
So, I mean that's the one thing that you have
in their favor. You know, in a Shawn Michaels Brock
Lesler potential match, you got two people who are who
have the who had at one point the ability demonstrated
the ability to pull off a good iron Man match
with a good partner. You know, Seawan had Brett Brockhead Kurt.

(01:04:33):
So I mean, if you put those two together, you know,
if you want to say you know their peak, if
you want to put WrestleMania twelve, Shawn Michaels in the
same ring with you know, WrestleMania nineteen brock Lesner or
iron Man match with Kern Angle brock Lesner.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
And make that an iron Man match.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Those two motherfuckers could pull it off, absolutely yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I think it would be a hell of a fucking match.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
So we're in a grands huh, but but still not
enough to make me vote for them over freaking bread
hard Edge.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
Right, so I think we're in a Grants bretton an
Edge going through. All right, let's let's play Doyle. Thanks
real quick here, Doyle. What do you think? Doyle?

Speaker 9 (01:05:37):
M h.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
M m m.

Speaker 13 (01:05:55):
Well, well, well back yet again, Uh with another I
could buster. Let's see this time we've got rock Lestener
versus the Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels or.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Brett the Hitman heart versus Edge. Hmmm.

Speaker 13 (01:06:17):
I haven't thought about this at all. Uh, so we're
just going in raw dog and this as it were.
You know, I just have never really liked Brock all
that much. I just he's very one note to me,
not very exciting. And I don't know that hb K,

(01:06:43):
one of the greatest in ring performers of all time,
is enough to make me want to Brock want to
watch a Brock Lesser match. Now, on the other hand,
do I love Edge famously? Not really, But I don't
think he stinks or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
I don't think. I just think he's.

Speaker 13 (01:07:01):
Super duper overrated, and I think Christian is better than
he is. H That being said, Brett Hart is one
of my all time favorites, favorite favorites. This is a
little closer than any of them have been before, mostly
because I feel like Edge shrinks down the Brett Hart match.

(01:07:25):
But I'm still gonna go with Brett versus Edge.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Just I would.

Speaker 13 (01:07:31):
I would watch Brett Hart fumble with a paper bag.
I think that would be interesting. Whereas if I never
see or hear from Broad Lesser again, it'll be too soon.
So that's my uh, that's my uh.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
That's what we're going with.

Speaker 13 (01:07:52):
We're going with Brett and Edge.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
See Brett, It's going right through all right, man, until
next around. I'm gonna put away in my little book here,
the Holy Bracket Bible. Let's actually like get into this
this plee. We're supposed to know. I had a lot
of crap to get off my chest here, a lot
of good subjects, a lot of good stuff to talk about,

(01:08:20):
just news and stuff that's been happening throughout the weeks. Uh,
all right, closing all these windows I don't need. All right, guys,
we are back at Crown Jewel again, Perth. This time
we're in Australia. We're not in Saudi Arabia, so we're
going down under. Last time we were here, Bronson Reid

(01:08:45):
wasn't even on the card. I recall that last time,
so it's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
He was injured.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Yeah, I think he was injured.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Yeah, he had injured.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
He tore his leg up jumping off the top of
the Cajun War Games and like destroyed his ankle. So yeah,
he was out for a considerable amount of time. So
that's why he wasn't able to be on the Was
it backlash or was it elimination No elimination chamber twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
Four, Yeah, twenty twenty four, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Yeah, last year was elimination chamber. He wasn't able to
be in that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Yeah. Yeah, but you got himself on the card. We
got five matches. I personally think what's going to open
the show? Because if Roman ain't headlining, he's opening. I

(01:09:44):
think that that rule also goes with guys like Brock Lesnar.
We've been finding out if he don't he made event,
he's opening. That way he can get the hell out
of there and go right the hell home beat traffic.
I'm pretty sure that's what Brock does.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Like, in my mind, I picture Brocks just getting done
with his match, you know, going back to the locker room,
taking a fucking shower and just fucking leaving and getting
dressed and just before the show's over, just gone, dude.
Like I know, like a lot of wrestlers, a lot
of wrestlers say, like Undertaker would say, like, you know,
like nowadays, guys that are playing video games or they're

(01:10:20):
on their phones.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
So he goes.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
But no, back in my day, we used to sit
by the monitors and like in Gorilla and watch the matches.
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
But you know, it's a different era.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
So yeah, totally different error.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Man, Some people may sit back and watch the match,
watch matches, some people may do other things also. Back then,
they didn't have social media presences. President, they didn't have
a social media presence that they had to manage as
well on top of everything else. Like, yeah, they had
time to just all right, we're all gonna sit around
and wait because and watch these other matches, because hell,

(01:10:55):
for one, your ride might be in a match later
on on the show, so you can't go no damn where. Yeah,
you know, your drinking buddy might be in the main
event that nice, so you're gonna wait for him to
finish up. Then I We're gonna hit the bor or whatever.
It's a little different now with these people. One, some
of them can't afford to travel individually if they choose
to do so, or they may be traveling with their

(01:11:17):
you know, their husband or wife or a significant other
because and they're also not necessarily traveling to the to
the next town for the next day show either because
remember they're also not on the road as much. Yeah,
they pretty much is like they work raw and then

(01:11:38):
they're home for the week. And maybe if you gotta
work smack Down, okay, then you come. Then you go
home for a few days, then you fly out maybe
Thursday to where SmackDown is, you work smack Down Friday,
and then you go back home. Or maybe if there's
an occasional you know, live show in between, you go

(01:11:58):
to that place.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
But it's not like it was back in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Where all right, wearing Norfolk on Monday, Charlotte on Tuesday,
you know, South Carolina on Wednesday. We're in Atlanta on Thursday.
It's not like that, so, I mean it's a completely
different time. So, yeah, the show itself is going to
be a lot different for a lot of these starts.
Some of them may hang around afterwards just to hang

(01:12:21):
out with the people that you know, they ain't seen
in a week. Maybe chill catch up a let's get
some social media content together real quick. I bo't do
that or whatever post stuff they have to do. It's
a completely different time. So one of them things you're
just gonna have to deal with it, old man. Somebody

(01:12:42):
like Lesler, Yeah, I mean you hardly ever see pictures
or videos of Lesner like with other folks backstage. It's
not like you said, like, oh hey, look Lesner took
a picture with Io Sky or anything like that. Like
you know, shit, I wonder how much he's really Again
that's not not not to cast any.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Aspersions on brock Lesner.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
I wonder what kind of relationship he has with the
main roster, if any at all, right now, other than
like the top stars.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
Yeah, I think he's more of.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
A like him and Roman are close him and you know, uh,
John Cena are cool. Maybe him and Cody probably have
a bit of a relationship now. But you know, is
he up there, you know, seeing real like, hey, what's
up girl? Or is he seeing you know, Seth and
Seth brothers, Like what's up homie? Is he doing any

(01:13:29):
of that stuff? Or is he like all right, don't
shower out by?

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
Could you imagine Brocolesner was like that backstage, Like he
was just so like a fun person, Like he's just
like playing video games with Xavior Woods and Ship.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
Like right, like bros pop up on an episode of
Up Up, Down Down.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
Yeah right, He's not supposed to like you supposed to
see this. Yeah, So I think the opening Jackson or something.
I think the opening matches going to be Roman versus
Bronson Reid. It was a match that was just recently added.

(01:14:07):
But it's not a miracle on thirty fourth street fight.
It is not even a trick or street fight. It's
not a Chicago street fight. It's not a New York
street fight. Of course, not right, So let's make it

(01:14:28):
an Australian street fight. What the fuck is an Australian
street fight. If I don't see a fucking kangaroo or
a wallaby or a didgeridoo, Like fucking what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:14:43):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Like? If he doesn't, I would fucking lose my shit
at Bronson Reid pulls out a digeridoo, but you know
how they're so fucking long that he would just pull
out and it would just keep coming out like a fucking ladder.

Speaker 9 (01:14:56):
Just he is here way Barrett, Now, oh, he's going
to hit hit with the digit he do.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
We probably trying to bring in some Australian wildlife into
the matches that the wildlife in Australia to kill you.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
Yeah, yeah, man, like I don't see or something like that. Yeah,
Like Bronson Reid's is kind of like fucking having like
a I don't know, like a role sneak in his
pocket or like he's gonna, dude, he should get out
of like a fucking boomerang and like try to shh yeah, yeah,

(01:15:44):
like he ducks and hits like Paul Haman knocks Paul
Haman out or something like, oh my god, we probably
have like three Australian people right now listening like oh
that's not all we do. We don't just play around.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
The Australian street fight. I mean, granted, it's just a name.
It's just gonna be a regular street fight. But I
don't know what you can do to make it Australian
themed quote unquote, like a boomerang if you wield a
boomerang like a weapon, or I don't know, something else

(01:16:19):
Australia related. You know, break out a file of Fosters,
crack roaming over the head with it. Remember that old
beer Fosters Australian for bear.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
I don't like Australian weapons. I don't even know what
the fucked even, Like, I know, they're just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Guns, crocodile, dundee knife.

Speaker 14 (01:16:43):
Yeah like that, that's not This is a kendo stick. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
It'll be curious, all interesting at least to see who
actually wins this match, because first time around it seemed
pretty obvious that Romo was gonna win, and that's exactly
what happened. The fact that they're bothering to run this
back makes me wonder, like, is Bronson gonna go over
this time around?

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Or is Roman?

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Are they gonna have Roman defeat him again?

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
Clash in Paris? But you know, he left. He left them,
the tribal thief left the tribal chief on a stretcher.
Already we've seen that. You know what, this being an
Australian street fight makes me think definitely interference, bron breaker

(01:17:47):
the usso's, you know, even though he says he claims
he can do it himself, he doesn't need help, which
we he never does. But I just can't justify Bronson
winning this a man somebody beating Roman to reigns, who

(01:18:09):
who hasn't held a major title yet. It is hard
for me to believe without some sort of shenantigans afoot,
without a lot of help, clean ye ain't he ain't
beating him one on one. I'm sorry, I don't think Bronson,
read right now, is going to be Roman Reigns like

(01:18:29):
Roman Reigns was not too long ago, the longest reigning
champion we've had in decades like and Bronson still hasn't
caught his first fucking taste of gold yet. But I
get it, I get it. I get it though with
the heat he needs it back. He's lost and you

(01:18:51):
know now that he's lost the shoes even like he's
the tribal thief like a thief of what he's got
nothing now like he like they took his fucking shirt
off w W Shop Zone. I know why because they
had the Air Jordan logo and they had to put
a new shirt out, but.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Tribal it wasn't even the real Jordan's like they changed
to make it not look like like Nike still was
like nah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
Mm hmmm, yep. They were like get rid of it.
Like no, They're like, just do it. Yeah, I just don't.
I just find it hard to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
Like, don't get me wrong, I think there's gonna be
a lot of Shenanigan's, a lot of a lot of interference,
you know. I think we're gonna a lot of that night.
But for me to have Bronson Reed standing over and
standing over Roman Reigns with his handheld high, with that
man never holding any gold over that man, it's rough.

(01:19:54):
I'd be I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
It's you're probably right, because I mean the only thing
that Bronson has working for him is bron Breaker, whereas
Roman has both Jimmy and Jay to back him up,
and obviously Romans still has to get his leg back
from them sending him out on a stretcher. So yeah,

(01:20:21):
Roman's probably going to come out on top. But that
just doesn't bode well for Bronson as being you know,
all right, I get two matches with Roman and then
I lose twice. But then there's also the other factor
of the fact that he's in Australia.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
So are they gonna have him losing his hometown in
front of his people?

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Because I imagine that the crowd could play a factor
into how this match is at least perceived. Obviously, Roman's
gonna be over and get the the cheers, but we're
in Australia, Bronson reed might get some considerable cheers as well.
And could they be strong enough that you know that

(01:21:09):
he is, at least in this match cheered as the
baby face even though he's the obvious heel.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
And could the fans be booing?

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
Could the fans in Australia boo Roman because he's facing Bronson?

Speaker 5 (01:21:21):
Man, I I I smell what you're stepping in, but
I don't I don't think so. I don't think this
is gonna be the This isn't the this isn't the
match that's gonna send the Australian crowd home happy if
they get their hometown hero winning their hometown boy. You know, like,

(01:21:45):
ain't nobody in Australia like clamoring for Bronson Redoin. But
this next match, y'all know that. I'm pretty sure man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
It's the hometown holiday. They might want their boy to
go over.

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
Mike might might, but I think where they're gonna send
the crowd home happy with a local win is going
to be Rhea Ripley and Eo Sky versus the Kobookie Warriors.
Oh man, I got it Osca and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Kary.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
That one actually was from this week.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
After she slapped a dog shit out of the dude.

Speaker 5 (01:22:36):
Yeah, she slapped her and when I recorded it you
could hear like the heavy, scary breathing like like before
she just got fuckinged. Now this match, this match for sure,
Like you know, the Kobooki Warriors are multiple multiple time

(01:23:03):
women's tag team champions, so they're going up against a
pretty good functioning tag team that have been allies for years,
but turning on like one of their fellow you know,
stable members, EO has kind of divided all three of them,
especially with with Kyrie being like right in the middle

(01:23:23):
reluctantly like following Oscar's orders, like you said, getting getting
bitch slapped, as we saw on Raw the other night,
kind of being put in her fucking place. She had
a match with Oscar with with EO this week. But
you know, even though these two are great tag team

(01:23:45):
partners and former champions, Eo, Sky and and Ria former
world champions. Uh. You know that's that's also the factor
and amazing wrestlers. Uh. And I think there's also a
small window where we could get Kyrie sane betraying Oscar

(01:24:06):
because she feels like Riha and Sky's you know, the
they're gonna probably help her turner before the end of
the match. I think. I think something's gonna happen, and
maybe Kyrie turns on Osco. But I think they're gonna
send the Australian fans home happy by letting the local

(01:24:32):
one get the win, right, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
I think it's a little too soon for that, but
it obviously just depends on what their timetable is.

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
Okay, you mean the breakups too soon for that of Kyrie.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
And ok yeah, I think it might be a little
too soon for that. It kind of depends on again,
what's their timetable for this whole storyline between EO, Oscar
and Kyrie, Which sidebar best storyline they got going right now? Honestly, like,
I'm I'm I'm invested in this one. The moment that

(01:25:11):
uh Oscar you know missed it EO and then we
had to clip on social media of EO backstage crying.
Man Listen, I was ready to run the fade on
Oscar right then and there, like, Nah, she'd have made
my baby EO cry.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Nah, it's on site, Oscar. I think at that moment,
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
Everybody got emotionally invested in this feud and it's been
going strong since then, and we know where, we know
where the finish line is. We know where the ultimate
climax is going to be. It's gonna be EO versus
Oscar one on one in a final match, or that's
gonna be the in a climactic match. We just don't
know when that's gonna happen. You know, is that a

(01:25:56):
match that happens at Survivor Series doesn't happen that the
World Rumble, Does it happen at WrestleMania. You know, the
timetable of when that's going to happen is going to
dictate how far or how long they the storyline uh

(01:26:16):
plays out, because yeah, obviously before we get there. I
do agree that at some point Kyrie is going to
turn on Oscar or I won't say turn on well, yeah,
I guess turn on Oscar. But she's gonna stop putting
up with the abuse. And it could happen in a
in another EO Kyrie match or something to the effect

(01:26:38):
where Kyrie Kyrie Saying, may be in a position to
quote unquote put down EO once and for all, and
her emotions are going to get the better of her,
and she's gonna refuse to do it. And then I
can see Oscar just going ape shit on Kyrie like
you didn't finish her off, and as Oscar starts beating
the shit out of Kyrie saying, and then EO comes
to the rescue. But you know that's down the line.

(01:27:02):
As far as this match goes, I think this is
just gonna be a regular straight up tag team match.
I don't think we're gonna get any kind of Shenanigans
or any kind of major storyline development in this match. Again,
I think it's coming, but not in this match. And
if it's a straight up one v one match I get.

(01:27:28):
You know what, the fact that Kyrie got the pen
over EO on Raw this past Monday, even with Oscar's help,
means that, yes, probably EO and Ria are going to
go over in this match, but it's not gonna be
It's obviously not going to be the end of the
storyline or the end of the feud, or at least
the end of the story between EO, Kyrie and Oska

(01:27:52):
Rea might you know, be out of the picture afterwards
or steps or move on to something else afterwards. But
it's probably that's the thing that's about where I see
it going. EO and Rio will win.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
M but it's not the end of the storyline.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
Hm hmm, Yeah, I don't. I don't think it's in
the storyline either. Nope. All right, yeah, five matches.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Now for me, that's the that's the norm for w W.

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
Now for me, these are these three matches. These are
the ones that are most intriguing for me. Uh. Let's
start off with johnsona versus AJ Styles, a match that
everybody wanted and basically we got it by just demanding it,

(01:28:48):
like we we just at crowd events. Is just just
chanting AJ Styles through tweeting and and you know, I
think they were very smart on this move. I think
this is gonna be a great I think, to me,
this might be the match of the night. It might

(01:29:08):
be I'm gonna enjoy the hell out of this match.
I think also just for the nostalgia factor. You know,
but John Cena starting with losing the Cody Roads at SummerSlam,
and he started trading wins and losses. He beat Logan
Paul Clash in Paris, and brock Lesnon decimated him and

(01:29:32):
under ten minutes at Russell Palooza. Uh. You know. AJ
Style has been one of the greatest wrestlers of his generation,
is still one of the most popular stars on the
fucking roster. It'd be nice for him to get a
big PL win since he's been cheated out of the
Icy title with Dom and he hasn't gotten a really

(01:29:54):
big win in a while. But honestly, I feel like
seen as gonna go over in this one. And if
you haven't, I'm sure you can find it on YouTube.
But ww did a pretty good video package, I think
on aj Styles and Johnsen's like history of showing like

(01:30:16):
when they they met and like they first crossed past
you know, like AJ Styles was this big thing in TNA,
and when I saw him come here to WW man, like,
I was so fucking excited, and I was just like, man,
I want to see AJ Styles versus John Cena, you know,

(01:30:37):
and I got it, and then I got it again
and again and uh now I I'm excited to see
it one more time. And they're both seasoned veterans, so
they're both as far as I know, I believe AJ
Styles is on his way out next year, So you know,

(01:31:01):
take it in because we're not gonna get much of
Asia Styles left either. You know what sucks is Dre,
We're gonna be coming through, Like I feel like this
five year window where we're gonna have a bunch of
guys retire, it's gonna hit us all at once. I

(01:31:25):
would assume within the next five years. You know, obviously Seena,
Aj Styles, possibly Orton, brock Lesnar, maybe even Roman Reigns.
Those are names I really think we could see all
retired within the next five years or so. That's so possible.

(01:31:46):
So yeah, taken in and I see John Cena walking
away with a win. Drey, let me get your thoughts
on all this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Yeah, I agree, that definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
Yeah, over the next five years, we probably could see
those names retire. Three of those five will definitely well
obviously once already in the middle of it, but I
could see three of those five going on a bit
of a retirement tour per se. You know, maybe not
on the same scale as what Seena is doing now,

(01:32:19):
but I could see Orton getting something similar perhaps if
he chooses to announce, you know that if Orton or
AJ choose to announce there and this far in advance,
like obviously, it's not going to play out the same
way Sena.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Did you know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Sena gave us let us know, you know last year
that hey, twenty twenty five is the final year. Yeah,
and they were able to plan out a retirement tour
for him. AJ's just kind of told us that he's
kind of told us that next year is probably going
to be his last year. But he hasn't given like
a definitive out, So I don't see him going on

(01:33:01):
a retirement tour per se the way Sena has. I
think he may just work as normal and maybe just
try to have you know, a strong run in his
last year. He may not want all the grandeur or
just that that because you know, all due respect to
AJ styles, he's just not as big of a deal

(01:33:24):
in WWE as John Cena is. Obviously he's a big
deal in professional wrestling period, and he is a big
deal in WWE, but he's not Sena level, so he'll
get his appreciation and maybe certain dates of things like
that they may try to make.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
They may try to highlight it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
Especially if it becomes more definitive when AJ's you know,
you know, final date or whatever is going to be.
If he chooses to publicize that and say like, hey,
this is the this is you know, this is the
last day here, then you know, we may get things like,
you know, hey, this is AJ's last appearance in LA

(01:34:06):
or whatever, AJ's last appearance at you know, in Atlanta,
like something like that. Especially, you know, it's gonna be
a big deal whenever there's a raw or smack down
in Atlanta. Sure, And I think the same thing also
applies to Rand Jordon that I've said for AJ, they
could just have their you know, work like normal and
then just the end is just the end.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Roman or Brock.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
I could see them maybe fading out more so than
having a retirement tour per se right, I could I
could see Leslon's just going to Goldberg route and just saying, hey,
one last.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Match, this is it, so and so as my opponent.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
But anyway, getting back to the match itself, Yeah, this
could this could potentially steal the steal the show and
be the match of the nighttter. In fact, I'm gonna
say it probably is going to be the match of
the night, you know, unless Cody and Seth come up
with something with something extraordinary to top you know, their

(01:35:09):
three prior matches.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
But I think this one probablys.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
I think they're both gonna want to give each other
their best, so I could see both of them dancers
showing out.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
I think you can flip a coin on who's gonna win.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
On the one hand, I could see obviously Sena is
this is Sena's retirement tour, so he I could see
him getting the win and AJ giving him the win
on the way out. I could also see Sena being
the gracious, gracious one and being like, you know, I'm
done here. I just wanted a great match. You're still

(01:35:47):
moving forward, so I'll you know, I'm willing to, you know,
lie on my back for you. I'll count the lights
for you AJ, and maybe their final match. He lets
AJ go over in their final match. I could see
it going either way, but I'll say probably Edge. John

(01:36:09):
is probably gonna win though, but I would not be
surprised if AJ picked up the W but probably John.

Speaker 5 (01:36:21):
Yeah, this one could definitely go either way. Yeah, but
I'm fucking super excited about it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
Next match, Excited enough to wake up at eight o'clock
in a fucking morning on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
To watch this.

Speaker 5 (01:36:39):
Yeah, I wanted to bring that up real quick. I
totally forgot about that. Like if if anybody's curious with
the time zone change, it is at eight in the
morning on a Saturday. Now listen, I am up every
day at three thirty am eight o'clock. I'd be well
slept in, drank my coffee, already had my breakfast, like

(01:36:59):
i'd be I'm down for eight am. But I know
people who are listening. I know there's a few of
you I am. I always throw parties for the pl
so I have a bunch of you guys over, and
I know you guys are gonna want to come over
and watch it. And I know every single fucking one
of you are not gonna be getting up on a

(01:37:21):
Saturday eight o'clock in the morning, come to my house
to watch a PLD. I'd be like, I cook you
guys breakfast and everything, coffee and breakfast, ple e. You
know we wrapped this shit up before like eleven o'clock,
you know. But I know everybody's gonna sleep in. Everybody's
gonna want to do this at like seven o'clock at
night on a Saturday. I get it. I get it.

(01:37:45):
I should just watch it and just not say I
watched it and just act surprised when I watch it
again later. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
I'm not setting no alarms footage on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
Yeah, Normally, usually I wake up depending on what time
I go to sleep the night before. I can wake
up as early as five thirty in the morning and
be up. Yeah, I can wake up at seven in
the morning and be up. Sometimes I might not wake

(01:38:25):
up till nine thirty or ten. It just kind of
depends on the night before. But this one when I
wake up is when I wake up. If I wake
up before the pl and it's you know, it hasn't
started yet, and I remember, I might wake up, you know,

(01:38:48):
Saturday morning be groggy as fucking be like and not
even think about Crown Jewel till fucking like ten o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
I be like, oh shit, that started two hours ago.

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
But yeah, I've done that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
If yeah, if I happen to wake up, if I'm
up to watch it in the morning, I'll watch it.
If not, then I will save it till Saturday evening
and put it on replay at like seven. I ain't
setting no.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
Alarms to be like, oh, gotta get up to catch corn. Nope,
I ain't doing that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
I'll watch it when I watch it, granted, whether it's
supposed to be crummy as fuck here Saturday anyway, because
it's supposed to be having some damn tropical weather coming through,
so this whole weekend about to be a watch out
for me.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
Yep, That's what I'm dealing with right now. You're probably
gonna get this soon as it's done here, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Well, no, not what you got. You're to the north
of me. Yeah, whether I do south like that?

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
Next match, all right? This is for the WWE Women
Crown Jewel Championship. You know, that massive fucking title that
you win and then the ring you get that you
only wear when you're there and then you never see
it again.

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
The rings they can wear again. The belts, they.

Speaker 5 (01:40:15):
Don't never see them again, huge belts.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Many, Yeah, because ever since they've been touting the the
other the Men's Crown Jewel match, Cody's been on appearing
on Wrong Smack Now with his ring ever since.

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
Yeah, well yeah, so they'll bring it out now, but
like you don't see it after that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
Other than that, Yeah, we never talk about it again.
It's it's a thing that only matters when Crown Jewels happening.

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
Yeah, if they're gonna be if we're gonna continue doing
this and we're gonna be treating them like super Bowl rings,
then then you should fucking bring up like I'm a
you know, a two time Crown Jewel Champion, you know,
I'm a three time w W Like, yeah, Crown Jewel champion.
Why not if you want it more than once? Why

(01:41:03):
not at this point, like I think.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
You should, Yeah, somebody, Well, somebody's got to win it
more than once first.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean, like it's still like Live
Morgan should bring up that she's a former Women's Crown
Jewel Champion, like, you know, Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
Anyway, I think I could I get what you're saying,
but I think that that's something that has to come
with time. You can't really brag about something that's only
happened once.

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
Yeah, that's why I guess I'm getting now, I'm getting
ahead of myself, like I want it, but like I
gotta pump breaks for the four more years until we
can have somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Granted, if we're gonna be real about it, most people
don't really give a ship out this damn thing because
it's not a title that's defended. It's just you know,
champion versus champion for this other championship thing. So yeah,
kind of hard to brag about something like that when

(01:41:57):
you know you're not really offending it, you're not really
winning a tournament per se for it. It's I would
say you could almost kind of equate it to the
like the college football championships, not in the current era
now where they have the tournament era of back in

(01:42:19):
the day when the you know poles or the you know,
the committees or whatever just picked two teams and said,
all right, you two are playing for the championship, and
yet it meant something in because okay, yeah, we're the
national champions of college football. But at the same time,
it's like, I mean, yeah, you are, but you only

(01:42:41):
had to beat one another person to get it. But
you know, that's a whole other argument in and of itself.
There are plenty of other people who, you know, love
those NCAA College football championships. Hey, we're national champions, YadA YadA,
you know, but I always felt.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
Different about it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:56):
But that's what I would equate the Crown Jewel Championship too.
Is the college football Championship back when the UH committees
would pick two teams to face in the title game.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Mm hmmmmmmm mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Glad everybody understood that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
I just think the whole things is fucking silly, like
this championship that we only talk about when we're there.
And anyway, uh Tiffany Stratton SmackDown w W Women's Champion
versus UH the Raw Women's World Champion. Now we're kind

(01:43:55):
of out of a stands still here with these two
because these two women are on two different types of
trajectories here. Stratton has been the longest ringing current title
holder in ww She won her title back in January,

(01:44:15):
you know, and has been just undefeated since. She just
recently defended it against Jade Cargo and Nai Jackson. That
got awful match on SmackDown. I didn't even watch it.
I should have. I watched parts of it, that's before
I had SmackDown. But yeah, it was I heard, I

(01:44:36):
saw clips of it was just awful.

Speaker 4 (01:44:39):
Well, it wasn't that the whole match was awful, it
was that the just the match just completely went to
ship in the end. Prior to that, the match was
actually pretty good. It just completely fucking fell apart the
moment Jade Cargo got busted open. Yeah, from that moment on,
it fell off a fucking cliff. It just completely went

(01:45:01):
to hell in a hand basket.

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
Mm hmm. And then uh ste be, Now she just
won that title, like, not even a couple of weeks ago,
so to hack her, well yeah, Wressell Palooza, man like,

(01:45:28):
just to have her lose her first match as you know,
women's World champion, I just don't. I just don't see
that in the cards. But I also don't see them,
like I don't know. The momentum that that Tiffany has
I don't think will be stopped if she loses here,

(01:45:48):
because she's not losing a belt, she'll lose a match,
but not the belt, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Think the same thing with Stephanie care.

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
Yeah, but Stephanie so like I said, like she just
won that that belt. To have her lose right after
winning would be.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
So off putting.

Speaker 5 (01:46:09):
Yeah, so I think if anybody, right, I think if
anybody could take the loss here, it's gonna be Stratton.
I I think it would be awesome for Stephanie to,
especially for her in her career, like winning that and
then back to back, like two pay per views in
a row, like that'd be great for her career, you know.

(01:46:36):
I I I think Stephanie should and will win it.
I think it'd be a pretty decent match. I don't
think I've ever seen these to wrestle before. I don't
think so.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Mhm, No, I don't think they have.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
By the time Stephanie quer popped up in n XT,
I believe Tiffy was already on the main roster.

Speaker 5 (01:46:58):
Hmm, yeah, I think you're right, man. Yeah, what do
you think? Are you Are you thinking of the same
thing I am as Stephanie or are you thinking though.

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
I know I know who I'm going to be rooting for,
and that is definitely Stephanie Laquer that I'll be rooting for, because,
as we've already talked about, Tiffany's Women's World title run
has been very, very mid and people haven't really talked

(01:47:31):
about it much. I think people are starting to talk
about it now about just how.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
Mid and mediocre her title run has been.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
For as long as it has been, She's almost coming
up on a year as champion, almost a year since
she cashed in and won that championship. And does she
have a single memorable match or moment in this title run?

(01:48:00):
The answer is no, Like, her biggest moment was the
actual cash in, and then the train wreck of a
build up to her match with Charlotte Flair at WrestleMania,
and then the match with Charlotte at WrestleMania where she
won but looked like she got her ass whooped. Remember

(01:48:24):
talking about like did she break a tooth?

Speaker 5 (01:48:27):
Like oh yeah, yeah, yeah it was like a veneer or.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Something like.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
Yeah yeah, because they she talked yeah apparently, which apparently
she did actually damage her teeth or her veneers because
they talked about it on uh.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
Unreal.

Speaker 4 (01:48:44):
They showed the clip backstage and sh She's like, yeah,
this is just teeth, you know, got vinairs, I got
others or whatever. It's like, yeah, I can get it fixed.
It's like everybody does, like, oh okay, so apparently this
is the thing. Y'all just got them veneers and they
just get fucked up, and y'all just like y'all just
swing by the clinic real quick, like hey, got up
with theres fucked up. I gotta knows on standby popping
in real quick or whatever, and you're.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
Back on TV.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
I guess that's how she was back on smack Down
that following Friday, like nothing had ever happened.

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
Like that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:14):
The thing is like, yeah, but the point is like
that's the most memorable thing in her title run, winning
a match and looking like she got the shit kicked,
like the dog shit beat out of her. Despite winning,
it's been very mediocre. Meanwhile, Stephanie Vicure is currently looking

(01:49:34):
like the next big thing in the women's division, having
shown up all raw having you know, Stellar matches, had
a banger of a match with EO at Wressell Palooza,
you know, the match of the night at Wressell Palooza,
and winning the Women's World Championship. Yeah, I could see

(01:49:56):
her capitalizing on that and riding that moment someton you know,
you know, Uh won the Women's World Championship at Russell Palooza,
followed that up by winning the Crowd Jewel Championship at
Perth and just keep that fucking rocket strapped to her

(01:50:16):
and ride this thing on out. So yeah, that's that's
where I'm going with it. I'm my picking is Stephanie
Viccara to win.

Speaker 5 (01:50:27):
Nice coolr an agreement. Loud carging by my house, how
fucking rude, rude. All right, let's move on to the
final match, to the main event, the singles match for
the w W Crown Jewel Championship. This is a Cody

(01:50:50):
Rhoads SmackDown, undisputed WW Champion versus Seth freaking Rollins, the
World Heavyweight Champion of Raw. Uh. I don't know this. They
have had a pretty damn good rivalry since uh, Cody

(01:51:13):
Rhodes has has come to this company, well back, I
should say, to the company. Seth was his first person
to face again at WrestleMania, and then he faced him
again at Hell and to Cell where he tore that
that was it that peck or was that shoulder or

(01:51:33):
well that was that was the third one, third one.

Speaker 4 (01:51:37):
Yeah, the first batch was it was, like you said,
at WrestleMania thirty eight, Yeah, when Cody returned. Then they
faced each other at Backlash the following month, and that's
when I think that's when Seth had the polka dots,
when he had the dust the old dusty fit. And

(01:52:00):
then the third match was the Hell in a Cell
match when Cody had the torn peck.

Speaker 5 (01:52:07):
Yeah, that was crazy, the torn peck him even just
doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
Everybody had ever reaction when he took that robe off
and seeing how.

Speaker 5 (01:52:18):
Man Yeah, I mean if he if nobody's seen that,
go back and watch that, just even just just watching
him in that match alone, because of how difficult it was,
you know, just to wrestle with an injury. But at
the end of the day, you know, Seth is oh

(01:52:40):
and three against Cody Rose, and you know, right now
Rollins is being pushed, you know hard, He's got a
he's got a lot of moving parts too. With with Hymn,
you know, saying that no matter what he's going to win,

(01:53:03):
you know, you don't forget. You know, we have Bronson,
Red and Breaker, and we also have the We also
have Randy Orton to play in factor here, and maybe
some of the Bloodline members og Bloodline, Like, there's a
lot of people that could interfere in this match. But

(01:53:26):
I think since Cody got it last year, Cody doesn't
fucking need it. This year, Rollins needs it. He needs
the win for the feud, he needs the win for
the momentum that he's been putting out with this new vision.
Like to lose with with this momentum behind him would

(01:53:46):
just it would suck. It would really put a damper
on it. I think you need to give it to
set this year. Don't get me wrong. It's gonna be
a good match. It's gonna be intriguing as hell with
everybody who's gonna be involved, But at the end of
the day, it's going to be Seth outside help or not?

(01:54:11):
Oh do you agree with me? Do you you think I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:54:20):
No, It's absolutely gonna be Seth Rowlins who wins this match.
He has to win one. He cannot go zero to
four against Cody two after they exchange him and Paul
Hayman just had on raw this past Monday. He damn
sure can't lose. When Paul Hman was just saying, you
know when he asked Paul for the truth, an honest answer,
what if I lose? And Paul responds saying, I'm gonna

(01:54:40):
have to question whether I made the right choice choosing
you over Roman reigns, Like, obviously they're not going down
that path of Paul Haymon questioning if he made the
right choice. No, Seth Rollins is going to win and
affirm to Paul that he made the right choice and
betraying Roman to side with him. So yeah, I mean

(01:55:02):
they after that, you know, seeing that they pretty much
all but solidified that Seth is gonna win. Not that
I had any doubts to begin with, because again zero
and four not happening. Cody could take the l and
be fine and just move on to whatever he's gonna
do as champion, because you know, whether it's you know,

(01:55:23):
Drew popping McIntyre popping back up or whatever. So you know,
him losing this match doesn't affect anything because he's not
currently embroiled in any feud over his.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
Title right now. Whereas Seth.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
He's got people coming for him, so this little side
quest he needs to go and knock this thing out,
come back as Crown Jewel Champion and World Champions, So
that way he has another thing to brag about and
further establish himself as you know, unquestionably the leader of
the Vision. So yeah, Seth gonna win. I kind of

(01:56:02):
would like it to be just a one on one,
no interference win, but that's probably not going to happen.
It's the only thing that gives me pause on it
is the stuff that Paul Hayman said. Like, prior to
the exchange that they had, I would have probably been

(01:56:23):
pretty certain that Paul Hayman was gonna help ensure that
Seth Rollins won, you know, whether that through some manner
of interference or shenanigans or something like that. But the
fact that he asked them for such an honest answer,
and that Paul Hayman actually had to come out and
say that if you lose this match, I'm gonna have

(01:56:44):
to question whether I made the right choice. Yeah, it
almost makes me want Seth to win clean just to reaffirm,
you know, just to reinforce Paul's faith in him. If
Paul has to interfere with or if Paul had if
Paul Hayman has to do something to help ensure that

(01:57:06):
Seth wins, then that doesn't really help to solidify Paul
Hayman's belief in Seth Rawlins. He's like, yeah, you did win,
but I had to do this thing to help you win.
Whereas if Seth just goes out there and wins.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
One on one without any interference, then that's decisive. That's definitive. Yeah,
ain't nothing to question after that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
Like I wanted to be a clean one on one win,
but I have my doubts that that's actually what.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
We're going to get. But that's what we should get.

Speaker 5 (01:57:50):
I noticed like this week, like Seth does not always
listen to Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
Man, Like we learned that last week.

Speaker 5 (01:57:58):
Yeah, like don't go and ran.

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
In a ring.

Speaker 8 (01:58:00):
Hate that crossroads, yep, got to him.

Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
But mm hmm yeah. And you know what, like I
don't know what's gonna happen on SmackDown too, like we
got we still have SmackDown.

Speaker 6 (01:58:15):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
The Smackdowns in Australia.

Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
It's yeah, this SmackDown Friday is gonna be also at
eight o'clock in the fucking morning.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
What h.

Speaker 4 (01:58:31):
Well, No, no, no, no, maybe I'm wrong, I'm wrong
because it will maybe No, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right,
it'll it's on network. It'll still area just normal time slot.
It'll just obviously not be live. No Raw, that's the one.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
Raw next week is going to be at eight o'clock
in the morning. That is gonna be, yeah, next Monday,
at eight o'clock in the morning because it's they'll still
be in Australia and that's on Netflix, so obviously they
can put that on whenever the fuck they want.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
When it goes live, it's live.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
Yeah, but all the spoilers for SmackDown will obviously come
out very early Saturday, I mean Friday morning, because it
will technically be happening live at like eight or nine
o'clock our time. Yeah, even if it doesn't air till

(01:59:27):
Friday night. So yeah, all the spoilers will be out
by lunchtime Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:59:35):
M cool beans, man, if you want to plug anything
else for this episode.

Speaker 4 (01:59:50):
Nothing else, just as always, Instagram, dot com, slash PCW
podcast and check us out into discord Is Doyle ain't
here to say it. I will just say I can
follow the Facebook page, yeah, or.

Speaker 5 (02:00:04):
The Twitter page or the Instagram page and leave more
reviews and whatnot. But uh, yeah, I think that's it. Man.
What am I gonna play out today. Mmmm mm hmmmmmm.
I'll do this one again. I like this one. Oh

(02:00:27):
it's me, it's me.

Speaker 13 (02:00:28):
It's a d O y L E coming back at
you with another.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
I have to work so I can't podcast report.

Speaker 13 (02:00:35):
We're going down Under again, back to Perth, the most
remote big city in the world for Saudi Arabia presents
Crown Jewel in Perth, Australia. For some reason, it doesn't
make hell a lot of sense to me, but hell
not much. Just made much sense to me this year
in the w W E maybe soon to be the

(02:00:56):
s A WE, but we'll get to that. We have
a pay per view here without a title match, which
is kind of odd. I think you know, they're saying
the Crown Jewel Championship. They're trying to make that a thing,
and hey, maybe in twenty years we will look back
at somebody that was a five time Crown Jewel Champion

(02:01:18):
or whatever the hell it's called, and that'll be a
big deal.

Speaker 1 (02:01:20):
But today it is not.

Speaker 13 (02:01:25):
So let's let's get to it. Let's start with Australian
street fight between Roman Reigns and Big Bronson. Reid Bronson
read across the hometown boy however, or a home country
boy anyway. However, I just don't see him losing to

(02:01:51):
Roman Reigns Again. I think I think we all picked
Bronson Reid to win this first match, but I just
don't see him.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
I just don't see him winning.

Speaker 13 (02:02:03):
Roman has forbid jay Uzzo from interfering, which I assume
guarantees he will be interfering. We could maybe get some
tension with Jimmy trying to stop him, something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
I think bron.

Speaker 13 (02:02:17):
Breaker, of course, will be involved, but I expect Roman
to win this and maybe mapping it out even a
little further, I think probably Roman then will go on
a feud with Braun and then eventually we'll lead to
a WrestleMania manager seth. But of course that's putting in
the cart way before the horse. But yeah, I could

(02:02:40):
see a scenario where maybe this is finally the Jimmy
heel or not the Jimmy then Jay he'll turn. That's
been kind of teased. Inasmuch as I've said repeatedly, I
think that it just doesn't make sense to turn somebody
that's so fucking over.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
Maybe that means it is.

Speaker 13 (02:02:58):
A great time to turn someone that is so fucking over,
because what makes great heels great faces and vice versa,
I suppose.

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
So, I mean, I.

Speaker 13 (02:03:07):
Could see a scenario maybe where Jay turns heel.

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
Maybe maybe it's Jimmy that turns heel.

Speaker 13 (02:03:13):
I don't know, maybe La Nightsticks's nose in here and
he finally joins the vision. I've kind of speculated that
that might be coming. So maybe that's a thing that
will happen. I don't know, but I do think Roman
will win again for no other reason that speaking of
people who never lose, John Cena and AJ Styles the

(02:03:34):
two old timers, ironically born within a few weeks of
each other, and sadly only a few months older than me.
I guess that means I'm the old guy too.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
Now.

Speaker 13 (02:03:48):
Not really much story here other than they're both good wrestlers.
I know they're kind of trying to sandwich in a
best TNA wrestler versus best WWE wrestler thing, But it's
been so long since AJ was associated with TNA and
how many and and TNA it seems to have nothing
to do with the main roster thing, you know, the

(02:04:11):
NXT angle notwithstanding, so I don't know if there's a
lot of meat on those bones. I hate that AJ
gave that promo on Raw where he's like, this match
is gonna kick ass, because I just feel like when
they when they set themselves up with these kind of expectations,
they never reached them on paper. Should this be a

(02:04:33):
good match, Yeah, sure, but these are both guys pushing fifty,
both past their prime, no offense. I love them both,
but reality is reality. Yeah, I think Sina wins. I'm
the streets are saying the gun there will be the

(02:04:54):
final opponent, so maybe Gunther appears here and to start
his final feud with but they are the streets are
also saying that there's gonna be a tournament to decide
who John seeing his final opponent is, and I gone
there will win that. So maybe Gonsla doesn't appear here.
Maybe we just go with a straight match, and maybe
that's the way to go. It just streak strikes me that,

(02:05:19):
you know, the the E in WWE is much more
important in WE than the second w the wrestling part
of it. Uh, you know, I feel like AW can
put on matches that say, hey, this is gonna be
a great match for the sake of having a great match.
And they can get away with it because nine times
out of ten it will in fact be a great match.

(02:05:41):
The WWE ringwork just isn't as good in my humble opinion,
So yeah, this should be fun, but there's just not
a lot of meat on the bones for me to
give much of a shit about. Hopefully they'll find a
way to change that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:57):
We shall see.

Speaker 13 (02:05:58):
At any rate, I think think Supersena comes out on
top again, another hometown girl or home country girl. At
any rate, we got Ria, Ripley and EO versus the
Kabuki Warriors. I feel like there is very little chance
Ria doesn't go over here. I'm kind of glad they

(02:06:20):
didn't somehow shoehorn away to get a title on her.
I guess we're doing title versus title, so she wouldn't
be winning the title here. But anyway, Yeah, I mean,
I think the most logical conclusion is that Ria will
pin Kyrie.

Speaker 1 (02:06:39):
And that'll be that.

Speaker 13 (02:06:41):
However, I don't think it's an impossibility that EO has
been playing Ria this whole time and it's gonna be
a you know, a big, big double cross, and maybe
the three of them will beat down Ria and really
get the crowd hot so I don't think that's outside
the realm of possibility. But I think more likely we're

(02:07:05):
looking at like an EO Oscar feud going forward, maybe
Survivor series. Not sure where that we literally where that
leaves Rhea, But she's real, bloody Ripley. You can pretty
much do whatever she wants with whomever she wants, so
I'm not real worried about her future all that much.

Speaker 1 (02:07:30):
Moving on to.

Speaker 13 (02:07:31):
The Crown Jewel Women's Championship or whatever it's gonna be
called with Stephanie Ventriloquists versus Tiffy time Stratton. Another one
that should be a good match, but who the fuck cares?
And I'm gonna say that again about the men's version
of this match, who the fuck cares? But yeah, this

(02:07:53):
should be fun. I like both of them. I think
they've been playing up that Tiffy hasn't lost this year,
which kind of tells me, whoop, whoop, whoop, she's poised
to lose. Tiffany's title reign has been kind of inconsistent,
kind of disappointing. Even Stephanie obviously just won the title,

(02:08:16):
so not really a large sample set there, but I
think she is just on a fucking rocket ship headed
to the sun in a way that I thought Tiffany was.
But I think she has common just sucked all the
fucking oxygen out of the room.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
In a good way.

Speaker 13 (02:08:33):
So I'm gonna go with Stephanie room room here over Tiffy,
just because I think there's more upside in her winning
than there is in Tiffany winning. But like I said,
at the end of the day, who gives a shit?

Speaker 5 (02:08:46):
Like who cares?

Speaker 13 (02:08:49):
It's it's for a ring and yet another ring and
a big, gaudy belt that we're never gonna see again.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
So who cares?

Speaker 13 (02:08:58):
And then onto the men's version of the match with
Cody Cody Road versus said Rollins again who cares?

Speaker 12 (02:09:07):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (02:09:08):
This has at least a little more story to it.
Cody's beaten Seth thrice, not once, not twice, but thrice.
So Cody or so Seth looking for a little revenge there,
also maybe looking to prove himself to Paul Hayman and
his underlings. Uh so kind of maybe a little more

(02:09:28):
interest here than the other match. Maybe a lot of
moving parts. Uh you know, I certainly could see interference
from Braun and Braun and Paul who knows, but I
expect Seth to come out on top here. I think
he needs to. Uh, I don't think he can go down.
I feel like we're always saying Seth needs a win,

(02:09:51):
which is kind of strange for, you know, one of
the top stars that doesn't ever really need to win.
I think Seth needs to win this match, and I
don't think a loss will really hurt Cody all that much.
So yeah, that's that's my thoughts on Crown Jewel. I
will of course not be spending a cent to watch this.

(02:10:14):
I will be pirating this somehow someway, and I will
certainly not be getting up at eight in the morning.
But I will eventually see it, and I think I
probably should be able to join us all for the
recap show next.

Speaker 1 (02:10:25):
Week, so I will see it. Then back to you guys.
Sorry quickly, Jewel thoughts.

Speaker 13 (02:10:37):
I forgot to mention that I see a scenario may
not happen, but I see a possibility of a couple
of crossroads get hit. We had a nice tight shot
on Cody's face and we get a boom RKO out
of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (02:10:55):
Sorry, I just forgot to add that in.

Speaker 13 (02:10:57):
And I don't know if there's a way to edit
it into my own and if there is, and it's
beyond my capacity because I was born in the seventies
and I don't understand technology.

Speaker 1 (02:11:07):
That is all.

Speaker 3 (02:11:09):
You are the world's dumbest sign up a bit.

Speaker 13 (02:11:16):
The fact that day in and day out for almost
six years I improved everybody in the world, that I
am the best on this microphone.

Speaker 5 (02:11:25):
And in that break given in commentary, nobody can touch me.

Speaker 1 (02:11:29):
You are not probly fast.

Speaker 3 (02:11:35):
Because there stre puppet and we watched the snub your yes,
talk about your songs, talk.

Speaker 13 (02:11:45):
About John three sixteen, obstat three sixteen says I just
whipped your ass.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
Well, let me tell you something, brother.

Speaker 12 (02:11:57):
Farime, new game, Queen, Raised to the.

Speaker 13 (02:12:07):
Top, more year, my true manness year, Welcome to the Top,
and Owen Show.

Speaker 5 (02:12:15):
Lately he just hasn't been Harry Usy.

Speaker 1 (02:12:21):
Because I'm the this.

Speaker 13 (02:12:24):
And I'm never.

Speaker 1 (02:12:29):
Oh my son, those rotten bastes.

Speaker 5 (02:12:40):
Bye bye. It's

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