October 25, 2024 • 28 mins
This time we dive into the Kents’ struggle to adjust to life back together, wedding plans for Kyle and Chrissy, and a Metropolis rescue with plenty of heat!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've got you, You've got me. Who's got you? Hello?
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Come to me, son of Jallo Neil before.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the
podcast Full of Kryptonite. We have another exciting episode of
Superman and Lois come out this week. A little bit
of a different tone this week from the first several
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episodes of the season. It's a little bit more lighthearted,
focusing on some of the supporting characters.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Got some thoughts about some of that, but we'll get
on into it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
This one was titled a Perfectly Good Wedding, and there
was a lot going on here. There was the wedding,
there were some family tensions, some Easter eggs related to
some of the villains and some of the supporting characters.
And Clark is back, so we saw that he opened
his eyes at the end of the last episode, and
then we have Lois. We're kind of going immediately to
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what had been happening before. Lois is standing at General
Graham's grave there on the farm, and the boys are
still in their matching Hawaiian shirt suits there. I think
they're sitting on the porch at the beginning here, and
Clark comes back.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
He comes flying in and lands and he is back.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
The boys run out to see him, and we find
out that it has been about three weeks since Clark died. Now,
I'm going to stop here for a second because there
are a few things that I really wish would have
happened that did not happen at the beginning here, we
kind of glossed over some stuff really fast. So Clark
comes back, and we almost immediately are into kind of
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a montage. You know, Lois is continuing her treatments, is
using his powers. Jordan is still mad. One of the
things I really would have loved to have seen was
an initial reaction to Clark finding out that Jonathan had powers.
That I think is a huge miss on the part
of the show, the writing team, the editors, Like maybe
they had a scene and they cut it for time.
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I do feel like there are some other things you
could have cut from the episode to give us that
moment that is a huge, huge moment in the life
of this show, and we didn't see it at all.
So I will say right off the bat, that was
one pretty big disappointment I had. In this episode, there's
a conversation between Clark and Lois about his limitations now
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that he has a human heart, that he's not ready
to face doomsday again, that this creature is still out
there and will still come and try to kill him.
At some point, Lois suggests taking the boy's training, which
Clark has tried to do. Jordan not interested, but he
will take Jonathan to the Arctic and do some training
with him. Kyle is planning their wedding, so we see
Kyle the cush and Chrissy is not into it like
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they were kind of excited at the end of last season.
Chrissy found out she was pregnant, and she is do
you see it right away? She's not into this wedding
like she is very hesitant about her mom. She and
her mom, she comments, do not have a good relationship,
even though her mom is coming in for the wedding.
Then we cut to a scene Clark and John head
off to the Arctic for a little bonding time where
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they throw in some classic kind of geeky references. Clark
makes a reference to the Kessel run and John in
response says something about well, you know, only if you
do it in less than twelve parsecs, and Clark's line
of just yes, yes, so he just the way any
dad would be excited when a kid gets a pop
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culture reference like that, especially from Star Wars. Come on
the other fun line, I did enjoy this moment. I mean,
John is just a natural with his powers, and he
is leaps and bounds ahead of where Jordan was when
Jordan first got his powers. And Clark and Jordan we're
in the Arctic doing the same things. There's a point
at which he's kind of racing and he is supposed
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to kind of pull up and fly up and over
this mountain or this glacier that's there, and Clark has
this funny moment where he's going pull up, pull up,
pull up, pull up John, and then John just plows
right through the mountain and Clark goes whoa or through it.
Dealer's choice thought that was kind of a funny moment
and no funny comment on his part, but him being
surprised at how quickly John is taking to these powers. Again,
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as I said one of the episodes before, I will
be excited and interested to see what they choose to
do with this with the two brothers having powers now,
Jordan having to do a little bit of struggling through
his pass I mean Jordan has had to struggle with
pretty much everything and having to struggle through his powers
and awkwardly figure them out, whereas John is just an
absolute natural at this I mean John could put on
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a super Boy outfit and be ready to go. We
have a moment here where Clark is They're racing each
other and Clark is zooming way ahead of John, and
then all of a sudden we see something wrong, that
his heart is beating heavily and something's just not quite
right here, and Clark comes crashing to the ground and
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John has to race over and help his father.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, he just died. He's got his limitations.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
He's not ready to face doomsday, and we have seen
a prime example of him exerting himself and that he's
not at one hundred percent. And whether or not this
means he will never be at one hundred percent ever
again because of his new non Kryptonian heart, we don't
know yet, but it is a clear indication that he
is not ready to go, that there is still a
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creature out here that killed him once and could definitely
do it again, and Clark is not ready for it.
We're at the Gazette, Lois and Chrissy Lois wants to
get Lex's flunkies to kind of flip on him, so
they're trying to come up with an idea to find
Gretchen Kelly and see if they can get her to flip.
Chrissy gets a call and fire out that because of
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a flood, that the courthouse isn't available for their wedding,
so Lois immediately offers to let them have the wedding
in the barn at the farm, and Lois is asked
to be the maid of honor. At that point, Clark
reluctantly tells Lois about his accident. When they're back home
John and Lois kind of tell him, look, you've got
to take it easy. You've just you died, dude. You've
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got to take this easy. You're not one hundred percent.
Just you know, be aware of your limitations. Kyle ends
up meeting Chrissy's mom and she certainly does not.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Approve of this.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It sounds like the relationship between Christy's mom and Chrissie's
dad was not the greatest also, so it just sounds
like she is worried for her daughter that this would
not be a good experience for her either. You might
recognize Missus Beppo from her time as Mayor Emily Pollard
on Arrow. She also played a priestess on Battlestar Galactica,
so you might recognize her from one of those spots.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Jordan, in the meantime, is wallowing.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He is continuing to replay the Jason Todd message on
his phone. John and Jordan try to talk about it, but.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's just not going much of anywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
The keeps playing this on repeat, keeps talking about how
much you know, Lois did not care about him and
didn't you know, chose John over him, and he is
just completely bummed about that and not able to let
it go. Clark and Lowis are talking on the porch,
drinking some wine. Clark talks about feeling weaker. Lois is
able to give him some advice based on the fact
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that she's been going through chemos. So both of them
are talking about how they don't know if they can
trust their own bodies because of illnesses or weaknesses, whatever
the case might be. And Clark makes a comment and
it was kind of funny, you'd kind of with skip
over it if it wasn't. Superman makes a comment about
how it really sucks, and that's not something Superman would
normally say. So Lois, you wait like a good ten
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to fifteen beats and their conversation is done, and Lois
is like, wait a minute, did you just say that
really sucks?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
He's like, yeah, I think the wine is getting to me.
Well that would be a first.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So the Clark and Kyle end up having a conversation
looking over the wedding set up, and he does ask
Clark to be his best man, his best Superman Jordan.
In another scene, here's the woman Gretchen Kelly, who had
kidnapped General Bramps and basically Lois says to John, you
got to take me, take me to Metropolis.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I need to see her.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Kyle and Clark are grilling as they are wont to
do as Kyle especially is wont to do, and Kyle's
okay with it, even though it's not his usual setup.
Missus Bepo arrives at the house basically confronts Kyle says
why are you marrying her? This is too fast, This
is ridiculous, and Kyle says, look, I love your daughter.
So it's not because it's not because she's pregnant. It's
not because of anything else. He's like, I love her,
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I want to marry her. This is a not the
case of a shotgun wedding kind of a deal. Jordan
and Sarah and Coach Gains. Jordan and Sarah are talking.
Sarah's trying to get him to open up and talk
about his dad, and Jordan still feels like a failure,
like that he was unable to bring them back with
his regular heart, with his real heart, because Lex Luthor
crushed it and it was Jordan's fault that that happened.
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John and Lewis get to Metropolis and confront Cheryl Kimball,
which is the real name of Gretchen Kelly, and Lois
is trying to flip her to get some dirt on Luther. Now,
let's talk a little bit about Cheryl Kimball for just
a minute. There's a bit of a twist here. This
is if you've listened to this podcast before, you know
I love a good deep cut, and I love the
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cuts that are so deep you can't even see them.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
You didn't even know this was a deep cut.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
This is a deep cut for comic book fans, and
it is actually one of my favorite comic books because
not only is it a crossover of two things. I
absolutely love. There was a comic in nineteen ninety five
called Superman Versus Aliens, and there was a distress call.
If I remember it right, I haven't read it in
a while. Superman's ends up traveling out into outer span
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that far reaches of space, and the part of the
discressed call is that there are these alien creatures that
have caused some disruptions, and it ends up being that
Superman has to phase down.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
The zeno from the Alien franchise.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Gets to be pretty interesting because it's far enough out
into space and it's a long enough amount of time
that Superman is starting to become weaker and more vulnerable,
so it actually ends up being the case where Superman
could actually fall prey to the Aliens. And I love
it when this show pulls from those really obscure corners
of DC's history. So we learn that Gretchen Kelly, who
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we thought was just some romantic interest for Sam Lane originally,
is actually Cheryl Kimball, who, if you know your DC comics, Lord,
comes from that Superman Versus Aliens mini series. Cheryl Kimball
wasn't just some side character in the comics. She's the
head of an aerospace division at Lexcor and has that
kind of classic I want to weaponize the xenomorphs vibe
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that you get to see in all of the best
corporate villains that you deal with in these franchises. So
that is where she comes from. That's where her character's
name comes from. Cheryl Kimball, Superman Versus Aliens, nineteen ninety five.
If you have not read it, go check it out.
I do highly recommend it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yo, stop your grinnin and drop your Linen found him.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Clark and Lows are having a conversation.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
They're talking about Jordan and how hard of the time
he's having still with things. Chrissy and Sarah have a conversation.
Chrissy is freaking out. Sarah's trying to get her to chill,
trying to help her find in some of her maybe
special gummies to help her calm down just a little bit.
Lois and Jordan are talking about the Jason Todd Memorial
nine hundred number call. He wishes that she had chosen
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him and basically says, look, Dad died because of me,
Grandpa died because of me. But ultimately they do end
up reconciling. This is one of the things I've said
it before. I really like about this show. I loved
Smallville back in the day, all ten seasons of Smallville,
even the comic that ran after the eleven the only
thing was called Smallville season eleven, and all the Little
MENI series that came after that.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I love Smallville.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
One of the things that used to drive me crazy
about Smallville is that somebody would have a personal problem
with somebody else, and it would oftentimes be over some
like ships passing in the night kind of communication issue
with each other, like somebody didn't say something, and you
spend the entire season with those two people being angry
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at each other or there being some kind of attention
because of that. What I really enjoy about this show,
especially because TV has now gotten to the point where
we have ten episode seasons twelve episode seasons, is you
can't let that stuff just fester for an entire season.
It just I did not like it when Smallville used
to do that, like, just reconcile this stuff and move
on with the story. I get that we the personal stuff,
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the character development, that's all well and good.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
That's fine, and.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You absolutely need that, and it makes the characters more
well rounded, lovable or unlovable people. What I really enjoy
about this show is you don't really tend to go
much more beyond two or three episodes with some of
that stuff kind of hanging in the air, and then
you take care of it, at least for the most part,
you take care of it. And not to say there's
not going to be some residual stuff hanging about, but
they reconcile, and it was a really nice moment between
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Lois and Jordan, and I did not want that stuff
to continue on and you know, be a shadow that
was looming over the rest of this final season. Kyle
and Coach Games a little bit of an argument over
the songs for the wedding. Coach Games is a very
opinionated wedding singer. Sarah runs in and kind of loudly
announces that Chrissy's gone. Clark and Kyle are talking, and
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Clark's trying to give him some advice. John and Jordan
the Meerkats, as Sarah calls them here a fire in Metropolis,
and Jordan says, you gotta go. I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing a superhero thing right now. You got
to go and John says, I don't have a suit.
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Jordan says, just grab a hoodie. And at that moment,
as I just said, I really enjoyed Smallville back in
the day, in that moment, I'm like, yes, we're back
to the CW super hoodies. If you don't know what
that is, it's a callback to the no flight, no
tights rule that they had on Smallville back in the day,
where all the superheroes instead of wearing their actual costumes,
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which they kind of did away with as you got
to a round season six. I believe when the Justice
Society showed up in either season six or season seven,
it was your superheroes. If you have somebody who's supposed
to be the Flash, I think there was a Bart
Allen character who was a Flash.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
He was in a red hoodie.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
If you had a green Arrow character, he kind of
had the green Arrow costume, but it was probably with
the hoodie. I think the only one that didn't have
a hoodie might have been Aquamand because hoodies don't make
sense under the water, everybody had a hoodie. He didn't
actually have costumes. And that was back when superhero TV shows.
Because there weren't really any other superhero TV TV shows
were afraid to do costumes, so they did not do
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the costumes.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
They were hoodies.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I had an idea though, since Jordan already gets called Superboy,
I think the other member of the Fraternals, John should
be called the Blur, so Big Callback too, could be
the Red Blue Blur, could be the Blur. Whatever you
want to do Big Callback to Smallville. There Lois and Chrissy.
Chrissy is feeling like she barely knows Kyle, so this
is probably not a good reason to get married, or
it shouldn't get married because she's like, I don't really
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know him, and she makes a comment here and this
is where the show has lost me, and this is
the end of the podcast Full of Kryptonite. I will
no longer be reviewing this show. Chrissy says, did you
know that burnt orange is his favorite color? And Lois says,
that's unfortunate. Really, that's it. I think the show lost me.
If you don't understand why I'm upset with that, there
are some people that are listening that will understand if
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you know, you know, burnt orange is a beautiful, beautiful color.
So I'm just saying in Metropolis, John is putting out
the fire. He's gone to stop this fire, putting out
the fire and fines Gretchen slash Cheryl whatever you want
to call her, is trapped and it is one of
Luther's henchmen. What we've seen him before. His name is
Hacksaw Chronic shows up and shoots John. He's got these
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kind of like mega man hand cannons that are shooting
out fire. I got to stop for a second because
with a name like Hacksaw Chronic, I know we kind
of expect Jay and Silent Bob to show up, but
there will be no Clerk's crossovers this week. We did
we have a shot back when Jonathan got suspended and
had to work at Britain Dunn's Quick Mart back in
season two. But my friends Bet Schooner has sailed. He's
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an alien for Christ's sake. His Kryptonian biological makeup is
enhanced by Erth's Yellow's son Flois gets a tan. The
kid could kick right there were stomach Only someone like
Wonder Woman has a strong enough uterorist.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
To carry his kid.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So Clark shows up and goes on to save John.
It's a great callback to that chain gun moment, and
Superman returns when they're shooting the bullets and the one
hits him in the eye and bounces off. He slowly
gets closer and closer to the flame guns until they
backfire on Hacksaw Gem chronic and he goes flying into
the turnbuckle. Right before that, he says, you're supposed to
be dead, and then Clark as he sends him flying,
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ends it with a good one liner. Not bad for
a dead guy. Chrissy and Kyler are talking that she's
come back. They're talking she doesn't want to bake up
with him, but doesn't.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Want to get married.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
At this point too, Clark comes back home. They have
a nice scene where Jordan is kind of talking through
what he's struggling with and gives John his super suit.
I really hope they do something else with the suits
for the fraternals. I know that General Gramp's memorial goggles
have sentimental value, especially now that he's gone, but it
just looks ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
There are some great supersuits for.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
The Superman family in the comics John Kent, Connor Kent,
but they could even do a if they want to
do like a Superman Red Superman Blue thing from the comics,
But in order for that to work, they just I
think they need to reveal to the world that Superman
and Clark are the same person. It worked fine in
the comics for a stretch of time. There actually was
a set photo from a few weeks ago that showed
Tyler Hecklin in the supersuit filming some scenes from season four,
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filming scenes for this season, and he is wearing a
wedding ring. So did they reveal his identity of the world,
and that's why Superman in the photo is wearing a
wedding ring or was it just a mistake or who knows.
So I would say that would be a great way
to do it, reveal the identity. It's fine at this point.
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You've got enough protection for Lois. You have two prepowered sons,
you have a superpowered dad. Lois is going to be protected.
It's totally fine. He kind of makes the whole super
Twins thing a little easier to manage if they do this.
I keep it kind of feel like keeping a lid
on three identities in the same family is like the
law of diminishing secret identity returns.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
It's gonna be a lot harder to do.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's hard enough to keep Clark's identity, but now to
have Clark and his twin sons, and suddenly Superman also
now has twin sons. That's you know, no amount of
no amount of prescription glasses is going to help try
to fix that. Kyle announces everybody that the wedding is
off for now when they decide to turn it into
a dance party, and the way these people are dancing
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it kind of looks like it's a good thing mister
Beppo couldn't quite get off work for this event. The
other funny thing about this one is at the dance party,
even Sarah is there, even Sophie is there, and she
apparently has shot up about three feet in the gap
between seasons, and so much like these eenomorphs I mentioned earlier,
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this is Sophie's final form. She was the little chest
burster before and she has now grown up. This is
her final drone alien form, where she is now like
seven feet tall and bigger than everyone else. Christie's mom
there's a moment, and I thought maybe this was a
callback to something, but I don't think so. Christie's mom
calls her Bambi as a nickname, and Christie says something like,
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you haven't called me that in a long time. I
couldn't find anything where this was maybe a callback or
reference or an Easter egg to anything. Honestly, I don't
know why any mom would call their child Bambi as
a nickname. I've seen that movie. It is not a
mom friendly cartoon, so not understanding why that was a choice.
But maybe they don't watch cartoons in their house. Back
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on the farm, we have another moment of ignoring the
fact that both of your teenage boys can hear things happening.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
On the other side of the globe.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Clark and Lewis get frisky, but super Sexy time is
interrupted by the phone blowing up with notifications of Superman returns.
It's the we get notifications from the websites of the
Daily Star, News Time, Gotham, Harold, Metropolis, Inquisitor, and Daily Planet.
For those who want a little bit of a deep
dive on those, here we go. The Daily Star was
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Superman's original workplace in the early Golden Age stories before
it got changed to the Daily Planet. The editor was
George Taylor, one of Clark Kent's first Bosses. First appearance
I believe was actually Comics number one from nineteen thirty eight,
but it was phased out as the Mythos kind of
evolved and officially became The Daily Planet. News Time is
a magazine in the DC universe, often resembling like a
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Time or a newsweek kind of a magazine covers major
superhero related events, and famously published a Death of Superman issue,
which I have a copy of. That one first appeared
in The Man of Steel number eighteen from nineteen ninety two,
during that doomsday storyline. The Gotham Herald is one of
Gotham City's newspapers, often reporting on crime and corruption in
the city. It's occasionally referenced in the Batman comics alongside
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the Gotham Gazette. Actually first appeared This is a fun one.
First appeared in The Minstrel's Shakedown, an episode, a fun
and goofy episode from the City's Batman TV show from
September twenty one, nineteen sixty six, where the Minstrel, a
villain dressed in medieval style clothing complete with a tunic,
some tights, a feathered cap, and a lute, disrupts trading
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at the Gotham City Stock Exchange by tampering with the
system in demanding extortion payments from the stockholders. Despite this
whole troubadour like appearance, the Minstrel is basically a tech
genius using his knowledge of electronics to wreak havoc. After
Batman and Robin investigate and track into his hideout, they
are captured and left to die on a human sized
rotisserie while the Minstrul continues plotting more chaos and if
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you want to find out what happens, you got to
come back here, same bat time, same bat channel. The
Metropolis Inquisitor is a tabloid that competes with the Daily
Planet in Metropolis. In the TV series Smallville, Lois actually
begins her career working for the Inquisitor. That's what she's
doing when she first comes onto the show. And finally,
the Daily Planet is the most iconic newspaper in the
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whole DC universe, serving as Clark kent' lowis Lane Jimmy
Olsen's workplace. It is known as a bastion of journalistic integrity,
plays a central role in pretty much all the Superman stories.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I believe it first appear.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
If I've got this right Action Comics number twenty three
from nineteen forty, so it has been around for a
very very long time in the Superman stories. For the
next episode, we got the trailer. We see the headline
Superman Lives, a story by Janet Olson. We also see
Luther is going to send the be Doomsday to kill
Clark again. The episode is called Break the Cycle, and
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here is the official description from the CW. Lois makes
increasingly bold moves as she cheaps. When I said, Lois there,
I was almost gonna pull it. Stewie from Family Guy.
Leis Lewis makes increasingly bold moves as she tries to
stop Luther. Jonathan struggles to balance his personal life and
responsibilities while Clark learns an unsettling truth. Okay, so I
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did see some images online for this one. Looks like
we get to meet a young Elizabeth Luther, a younger
Lex Luthor doing his best rendition of the Muppet Christmas
Carol Ghost of Christmas Present with that beard and mop
of red hair.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
It looks like we're.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Going to find out a little bit more some more
flashbacks in this one, and we will find out more
about the backstory between Soups and lex in this universe,
so a lot of fun stuff coming up with that.
One of the things I also looked at was the
release schedule for when all the next episodes are coming out,
and thank goodness, it is weekly. It is weekly from
now until December second, so it will be a very
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short season, will be done by the time we hit
December second. But this is one of the things. And
if you look at any of the numbers, I think
we are less than I don't remember if we're less
than half a million viewers, but at its peak, I
want to say we were close to might have been over,
but at least close to two million viewers. I think
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was original first season, like first few episodes, and then
typically at the beginning of each season you might start
off with a million viewers and then obviously as the
season goes on you kind of dip per episode. This season,
I don't even think we started with maybe like three
quarters of a million viewers, maybe zero point six million.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But one of the big problems has been just.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
The inconsistency of I mean, it has been fourteen months
since we had the previous season, but even at that
we had these huge breaks. You'd have the show it
would air for like three weeks, and then it would
go on a four week hiatus, and then it would
be like two more weeks and then a three week hiatus,
and then it was not consistent. You know, at the
beginning of this season, we moved to a different night.
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It's a month, it's a truncated season, it's only the
ten episodes. So I really am glad that it is weekly.
We will get weekly Superman and Lois going forward. But
I wish they would have done this. I feel like,
and not that it wouldn't have ended up getting canceled
anyway with all the stuff going in the background of
the CW and everything that's going on there, but I
really feel like the viewership of this show would have
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been more consistent and stronger if they had been able
to keep it as weekly as possible in the previous seasons.
I think that really hurt them. You know, we run
a Superman podcast here, and this is the only thing
this podcast does is basically review this show.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And there were times where.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
We were getting confused and I had written notes to
tell me when the next episode was going to be.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So if that's the case.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
If people who are trying to put out a show
where we review this show are getting confused about when
the next episode is airing or how many weeks is
it until the next episode comes on, then that's a problem.
The average viewer is not going to take that kind
of effort to make sure that they can find the
show if it's not viewing every week on the same
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night at the same time. I really think that's something
that ultimately has hurt them over the course of the seasons.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
They have had.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
But very glad that it's going to be weekly from
now until the end of the season on December second.
So what we will likely do is, and I say
we Dean Jason, they and I have loved being on
this podcast with them so much, but I think because
of schedules, they not necessarily going to be able to
join this season around for this final season. But what
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I'd like to try and do is I might be
able to try and get some guests to come on.
I might be able to get Tristan Hi Tristan to
come back for an episode here or there, might be
able to get Dan Jason to come back for an
episode here or there. If we've got some other folks
that are Superman fans, I might bring them in as well,
but when we get to the end of the season
where we've finished it all off on December second, I
definitely before deciding whatever's going to happen with podcast full
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of Fryptonite, I definitely would like to do a recap
episode where we talk about all of the seasons, the
entire run of this Superman and Lois show. And my
birthday is in early December, so I think there'd be
a great birthday gift for myself to be able to
do an episode where we recap the whole thing. So
looking forward to doing that. I'm excited for what's going
on in the rest of the season. Overall, thoughts on
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this one dropped the ball in a couple of ways.
I really really really wanted to see Clark's reaction to
finding out that John had powers.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
There were parts of this where.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I felt like it was so heavy on the backstory
of these characters that we probably are not going to
get to see ever again. We might see him in
the finale, I imagine we will. I think I saw
a report that everybody comes back for the finale. In
some way, it was good because the first few episodes
of this season have been heavy, very heavy, and so
it was nice to have a break from that to
see some of these characters again, but to have the
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entire episode be dedicated to a wedding of characters that
the way we left them was fine. Would I have
been devastated if we didn't get this episode where we
follow up in what's happening with Kyle and Chrissy. No,
So I don't know it was fine to have a
lighthearted episode. I would have probably preferred that it focused
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more on Clark and him getting back into things and
the boys. Still you can have Kyle and Chrissy and
all that, but I just don't know that I would
have had that be the focus of the episode and
kind of relegate all the others to a b story.
So it was a nice breather who was a little
bit of a palate cleanser from the very heavy, very
dark episodes that we'd gotten up to this point. I
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expect that next week we'll have maybe some more flashbacky
type stuff and then we will be full blast because
we're almost halfway through the season at that point. It's
probably just gonna be a sprint to the end, is
what I'm imagining. So buckle up, up, up and away.
We'll see you back here next time.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
They got talk about this.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
And got so baffled.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
The suit Jo listed the shot, hun the battle, and
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Come to me, son of Jallo Neil before.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the
podcast Full of Kryptonite. We have another exciting episode of
Superman and Lois come out this week. A little bit
of a different tone this week from the first several
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episodes of the season. It's a little bit more lighthearted,
focusing on some of the supporting characters.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Got some thoughts about some of that, but we'll get
on into it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
This one was titled a Perfectly Good Wedding, and there
was a lot going on here. There was the wedding,
there were some family tensions, some Easter eggs related to
some of the villains and some of the supporting characters.
And Clark is back, so we saw that he opened
his eyes at the end of the last episode, and
then we have Lois. We're kind of going immediately to
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what had been happening before. Lois is standing at General
Graham's grave there on the farm, and the boys are
still in their matching Hawaiian shirt suits there. I think
they're sitting on the porch at the beginning here, and
Clark comes back.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
He comes flying in and lands and he is back.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
The boys run out to see him, and we find
out that it has been about three weeks since Clark died. Now,
I'm going to stop here for a second because there
are a few things that I really wish would have
happened that did not happen at the beginning here, we
kind of glossed over some stuff really fast. So Clark
comes back, and we almost immediately are into kind of
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a montage. You know, Lois is continuing her treatments, is
using his powers. Jordan is still mad. One of the
things I really would have loved to have seen was
an initial reaction to Clark finding out that Jonathan had powers.
That I think is a huge miss on the part
of the show, the writing team, the editors, Like maybe
they had a scene and they cut it for time.
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I do feel like there are some other things you
could have cut from the episode to give us that
moment that is a huge, huge moment in the life
of this show, and we didn't see it at all.
So I will say right off the bat, that was
one pretty big disappointment I had. In this episode, there's
a conversation between Clark and Lois about his limitations now
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that he has a human heart, that he's not ready
to face doomsday again, that this creature is still out
there and will still come and try to kill him.
At some point, Lois suggests taking the boy's training, which
Clark has tried to do. Jordan not interested, but he
will take Jonathan to the Arctic and do some training
with him. Kyle is planning their wedding, so we see
Kyle the cush and Chrissy is not into it like
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they were kind of excited at the end of last season.
Chrissy found out she was pregnant, and she is do
you see it right away? She's not into this wedding
like she is very hesitant about her mom. She and
her mom, she comments, do not have a good relationship,
even though her mom is coming in for the wedding.
Then we cut to a scene Clark and John head
off to the Arctic for a little bonding time where
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they throw in some classic kind of geeky references. Clark
makes a reference to the Kessel run and John in
response says something about well, you know, only if you
do it in less than twelve parsecs, and Clark's line
of just yes, yes, so he just the way any
dad would be excited when a kid gets a pop
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culture reference like that, especially from Star Wars. Come on
the other fun line, I did enjoy this moment. I mean,
John is just a natural with his powers, and he
is leaps and bounds ahead of where Jordan was when
Jordan first got his powers. And Clark and Jordan we're
in the Arctic doing the same things. There's a point
at which he's kind of racing and he is supposed
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to kind of pull up and fly up and over
this mountain or this glacier that's there, and Clark has
this funny moment where he's going pull up, pull up,
pull up, pull up John, and then John just plows
right through the mountain and Clark goes whoa or through it.
Dealer's choice thought that was kind of a funny moment
and no funny comment on his part, but him being
surprised at how quickly John is taking to these powers. Again,
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as I said one of the episodes before, I will
be excited and interested to see what they choose to
do with this with the two brothers having powers now,
Jordan having to do a little bit of struggling through
his pass I mean Jordan has had to struggle with
pretty much everything and having to struggle through his powers
and awkwardly figure them out, whereas John is just an
absolute natural at this I mean John could put on
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a super Boy outfit and be ready to go. We
have a moment here where Clark is They're racing each
other and Clark is zooming way ahead of John, and
then all of a sudden we see something wrong, that
his heart is beating heavily and something's just not quite
right here, and Clark comes crashing to the ground and
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John has to race over and help his father.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, he just died. He's got his limitations.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
He's not ready to face doomsday, and we have seen
a prime example of him exerting himself and that he's
not at one hundred percent. And whether or not this
means he will never be at one hundred percent ever
again because of his new non Kryptonian heart, we don't
know yet, but it is a clear indication that he
is not ready to go, that there is still a
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creature out here that killed him once and could definitely
do it again, and Clark is not ready for it.
We're at the Gazette, Lois and Chrissy Lois wants to
get Lex's flunkies to kind of flip on him, so
they're trying to come up with an idea to find
Gretchen Kelly and see if they can get her to flip.
Chrissy gets a call and fire out that because of
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a flood, that the courthouse isn't available for their wedding,
so Lois immediately offers to let them have the wedding
in the barn at the farm, and Lois is asked
to be the maid of honor. At that point, Clark
reluctantly tells Lois about his accident. When they're back home
John and Lois kind of tell him, look, you've got
to take it easy. You've just you died, dude. You've
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got to take this easy. You're not one hundred percent.
Just you know, be aware of your limitations. Kyle ends
up meeting Chrissy's mom and she certainly does not.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Approve of this.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It sounds like the relationship between Christy's mom and Chrissie's
dad was not the greatest also, so it just sounds
like she is worried for her daughter that this would
not be a good experience for her either. You might
recognize Missus Beppo from her time as Mayor Emily Pollard
on Arrow. She also played a priestess on Battlestar Galactica,
so you might recognize her from one of those spots.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Jordan, in the meantime, is wallowing.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He is continuing to replay the Jason Todd message on
his phone. John and Jordan try to talk about it, but.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's just not going much of anywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
The keeps playing this on repeat, keeps talking about how
much you know, Lois did not care about him and
didn't you know, chose John over him, and he is
just completely bummed about that and not able to let
it go. Clark and Lowis are talking on the porch,
drinking some wine. Clark talks about feeling weaker. Lois is
able to give him some advice based on the fact
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that she's been going through chemos. So both of them
are talking about how they don't know if they can
trust their own bodies because of illnesses or weaknesses, whatever
the case might be. And Clark makes a comment and
it was kind of funny, you'd kind of with skip
over it if it wasn't. Superman makes a comment about
how it really sucks, and that's not something Superman would
normally say. So Lois, you wait like a good ten
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to fifteen beats and their conversation is done, and Lois
is like, wait a minute, did you just say that
really sucks?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
He's like, yeah, I think the wine is getting to me.
Well that would be a first.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So the Clark and Kyle end up having a conversation
looking over the wedding set up, and he does ask
Clark to be his best man, his best Superman Jordan.
In another scene, here's the woman Gretchen Kelly, who had
kidnapped General Bramps and basically Lois says to John, you
got to take me, take me to Metropolis.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I need to see her.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Kyle and Clark are grilling as they are wont to
do as Kyle especially is wont to do, and Kyle's
okay with it, even though it's not his usual setup.
Missus Bepo arrives at the house basically confronts Kyle says
why are you marrying her? This is too fast, This
is ridiculous, and Kyle says, look, I love your daughter.
So it's not because it's not because she's pregnant. It's
not because of anything else. He's like, I love her,
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I want to marry her. This is a not the
case of a shotgun wedding kind of a deal. Jordan
and Sarah and Coach Gains. Jordan and Sarah are talking.
Sarah's trying to get him to open up and talk
about his dad, and Jordan still feels like a failure,
like that he was unable to bring them back with
his regular heart, with his real heart, because Lex Luthor
crushed it and it was Jordan's fault that that happened.
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John and Lewis get to Metropolis and confront Cheryl Kimball,
which is the real name of Gretchen Kelly, and Lois
is trying to flip her to get some dirt on Luther. Now,
let's talk a little bit about Cheryl Kimball for just
a minute. There's a bit of a twist here. This
is if you've listened to this podcast before, you know
I love a good deep cut, and I love the
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cuts that are so deep you can't even see them.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
You didn't even know this was a deep cut.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
This is a deep cut for comic book fans, and
it is actually one of my favorite comic books because
not only is it a crossover of two things. I
absolutely love. There was a comic in nineteen ninety five
called Superman Versus Aliens, and there was a distress call.
If I remember it right, I haven't read it in
a while. Superman's ends up traveling out into outer span
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that far reaches of space, and the part of the
discressed call is that there are these alien creatures that
have caused some disruptions, and it ends up being that
Superman has to phase down.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
The zeno from the Alien franchise.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Gets to be pretty interesting because it's far enough out
into space and it's a long enough amount of time
that Superman is starting to become weaker and more vulnerable,
so it actually ends up being the case where Superman
could actually fall prey to the Aliens. And I love
it when this show pulls from those really obscure corners
of DC's history. So we learn that Gretchen Kelly, who
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we thought was just some romantic interest for Sam Lane originally,
is actually Cheryl Kimball, who, if you know your DC comics, Lord,
comes from that Superman Versus Aliens mini series. Cheryl Kimball
wasn't just some side character in the comics. She's the
head of an aerospace division at Lexcor and has that
kind of classic I want to weaponize the xenomorphs vibe
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that you get to see in all of the best
corporate villains that you deal with in these franchises. So
that is where she comes from. That's where her character's
name comes from. Cheryl Kimball, Superman Versus Aliens, nineteen ninety five.
If you have not read it, go check it out.
I do highly recommend it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yo, stop your grinnin and drop your Linen found him.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Clark and Lows are having a conversation.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
They're talking about Jordan and how hard of the time
he's having still with things. Chrissy and Sarah have a conversation.
Chrissy is freaking out. Sarah's trying to get her to chill,
trying to help her find in some of her maybe
special gummies to help her calm down just a little bit.
Lois and Jordan are talking about the Jason Todd Memorial
nine hundred number call. He wishes that she had chosen
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him and basically says, look, Dad died because of me,
Grandpa died because of me. But ultimately they do end
up reconciling. This is one of the things I've said
it before. I really like about this show. I loved
Smallville back in the day, all ten seasons of Smallville,
even the comic that ran after the eleven the only
thing was called Smallville season eleven, and all the Little
MENI series that came after that.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I love Smallville.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
One of the things that used to drive me crazy
about Smallville is that somebody would have a personal problem
with somebody else, and it would oftentimes be over some
like ships passing in the night kind of communication issue
with each other, like somebody didn't say something, and you
spend the entire season with those two people being angry
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at each other or there being some kind of attention
because of that. What I really enjoy about this show,
especially because TV has now gotten to the point where
we have ten episode seasons twelve episode seasons, is you
can't let that stuff just fester for an entire season.
It just I did not like it when Smallville used
to do that, like, just reconcile this stuff and move
on with the story. I get that we the personal stuff,
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the character development, that's all well and good.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
That's fine, and.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You absolutely need that, and it makes the characters more
well rounded, lovable or unlovable people. What I really enjoy
about this show is you don't really tend to go
much more beyond two or three episodes with some of
that stuff kind of hanging in the air, and then
you take care of it, at least for the most part,
you take care of it. And not to say there's
not going to be some residual stuff hanging about, but
they reconcile, and it was a really nice moment between
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Lois and Jordan, and I did not want that stuff
to continue on and you know, be a shadow that
was looming over the rest of this final season. Kyle
and Coach Games a little bit of an argument over
the songs for the wedding. Coach Games is a very
opinionated wedding singer. Sarah runs in and kind of loudly
announces that Chrissy's gone. Clark and Kyle are talking, and
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Clark's trying to give him some advice. John and Jordan
the Meerkats, as Sarah calls them here a fire in Metropolis,
and Jordan says, you gotta go. I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing a superhero thing right now. You got
to go and John says, I don't have a suit.
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Jordan says, just grab a hoodie. And at that moment,
as I just said, I really enjoyed Smallville back in
the day, in that moment, I'm like, yes, we're back
to the CW super hoodies. If you don't know what
that is, it's a callback to the no flight, no
tights rule that they had on Smallville back in the day,
where all the superheroes instead of wearing their actual costumes,
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which they kind of did away with as you got
to a round season six. I believe when the Justice
Society showed up in either season six or season seven,
it was your superheroes. If you have somebody who's supposed
to be the Flash, I think there was a Bart
Allen character who was a Flash.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
He was in a red hoodie.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
If you had a green Arrow character, he kind of
had the green Arrow costume, but it was probably with
the hoodie. I think the only one that didn't have
a hoodie might have been Aquamand because hoodies don't make
sense under the water, everybody had a hoodie. He didn't
actually have costumes. And that was back when superhero TV shows.
Because there weren't really any other superhero TV TV shows
were afraid to do costumes, so they did not do
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the costumes.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
They were hoodies.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I had an idea though, since Jordan already gets called Superboy,
I think the other member of the Fraternals, John should
be called the Blur, so Big Callback too, could be
the Red Blue Blur, could be the Blur. Whatever you
want to do Big Callback to Smallville. There Lois and Chrissy.
Chrissy is feeling like she barely knows Kyle, so this
is probably not a good reason to get married, or
it shouldn't get married because she's like, I don't really
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know him, and she makes a comment here and this
is where the show has lost me, and this is
the end of the podcast Full of Kryptonite. I will
no longer be reviewing this show. Chrissy says, did you
know that burnt orange is his favorite color? And Lois says,
that's unfortunate. Really, that's it. I think the show lost me.
If you don't understand why I'm upset with that, there
are some people that are listening that will understand if
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you know, you know, burnt orange is a beautiful, beautiful color.
So I'm just saying in Metropolis, John is putting out
the fire. He's gone to stop this fire, putting out
the fire and fines Gretchen slash Cheryl whatever you want
to call her, is trapped and it is one of
Luther's henchmen. What we've seen him before. His name is
Hacksaw Chronic shows up and shoots John. He's got these
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kind of like mega man hand cannons that are shooting
out fire. I got to stop for a second because
with a name like Hacksaw Chronic, I know we kind
of expect Jay and Silent Bob to show up, but
there will be no Clerk's crossovers this week. We did
we have a shot back when Jonathan got suspended and
had to work at Britain Dunn's Quick Mart back in
season two. But my friends Bet Schooner has sailed. He's
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an alien for Christ's sake. His Kryptonian biological makeup is
enhanced by Erth's Yellow's son Flois gets a tan. The
kid could kick right there were stomach Only someone like
Wonder Woman has a strong enough uterorist.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
To carry his kid.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So Clark shows up and goes on to save John.
It's a great callback to that chain gun moment, and
Superman returns when they're shooting the bullets and the one
hits him in the eye and bounces off. He slowly
gets closer and closer to the flame guns until they
backfire on Hacksaw Gem chronic and he goes flying into
the turnbuckle. Right before that, he says, you're supposed to
be dead, and then Clark as he sends him flying,
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ends it with a good one liner. Not bad for
a dead guy. Chrissy and Kyler are talking that she's
come back. They're talking she doesn't want to bake up
with him, but doesn't.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Want to get married.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
At this point too, Clark comes back home. They have
a nice scene where Jordan is kind of talking through
what he's struggling with and gives John his super suit.
I really hope they do something else with the suits
for the fraternals. I know that General Gramp's memorial goggles
have sentimental value, especially now that he's gone, but it
just looks ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
There are some great supersuits for.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
The Superman family in the comics John Kent, Connor Kent,
but they could even do a if they want to
do like a Superman Red Superman Blue thing from the comics,
But in order for that to work, they just I
think they need to reveal to the world that Superman
and Clark are the same person. It worked fine in
the comics for a stretch of time. There actually was
a set photo from a few weeks ago that showed
Tyler Hecklin in the supersuit filming some scenes from season four,
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filming scenes for this season, and he is wearing a
wedding ring. So did they reveal his identity of the world,
and that's why Superman in the photo is wearing a
wedding ring or was it just a mistake or who knows.
So I would say that would be a great way
to do it, reveal the identity. It's fine at this point.
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You've got enough protection for Lois. You have two prepowered sons,
you have a superpowered dad. Lois is going to be protected.
It's totally fine. He kind of makes the whole super
Twins thing a little easier to manage if they do this.
I keep it kind of feel like keeping a lid
on three identities in the same family is like the
law of diminishing secret identity returns.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
It's gonna be a lot harder to do.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's hard enough to keep Clark's identity, but now to
have Clark and his twin sons, and suddenly Superman also
now has twin sons. That's you know, no amount of
no amount of prescription glasses is going to help try
to fix that. Kyle announces everybody that the wedding is
off for now when they decide to turn it into
a dance party, and the way these people are dancing
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it kind of looks like it's a good thing mister
Beppo couldn't quite get off work for this event. The
other funny thing about this one is at the dance party,
even Sarah is there, even Sophie is there, and she
apparently has shot up about three feet in the gap
between seasons, and so much like these eenomorphs I mentioned earlier,
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this is Sophie's final form. She was the little chest
burster before and she has now grown up. This is
her final drone alien form, where she is now like
seven feet tall and bigger than everyone else. Christie's mom
there's a moment, and I thought maybe this was a
callback to something, but I don't think so. Christie's mom
calls her Bambi as a nickname, and Christie says something like,
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you haven't called me that in a long time. I
couldn't find anything where this was maybe a callback or
reference or an Easter egg to anything. Honestly, I don't
know why any mom would call their child Bambi as
a nickname. I've seen that movie. It is not a
mom friendly cartoon, so not understanding why that was a choice.
But maybe they don't watch cartoons in their house. Back
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on the farm, we have another moment of ignoring the
fact that both of your teenage boys can hear things happening.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
On the other side of the globe.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Clark and Lewis get frisky, but super Sexy time is
interrupted by the phone blowing up with notifications of Superman returns.
It's the we get notifications from the websites of the
Daily Star, News Time, Gotham, Harold, Metropolis, Inquisitor, and Daily Planet.
For those who want a little bit of a deep
dive on those, here we go. The Daily Star was
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Superman's original workplace in the early Golden Age stories before
it got changed to the Daily Planet. The editor was
George Taylor, one of Clark Kent's first Bosses. First appearance
I believe was actually Comics number one from nineteen thirty eight,
but it was phased out as the Mythos kind of
evolved and officially became The Daily Planet. News Time is
a magazine in the DC universe, often resembling like a
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Time or a newsweek kind of a magazine covers major
superhero related events, and famously published a Death of Superman issue,
which I have a copy of. That one first appeared
in The Man of Steel number eighteen from nineteen ninety two,
during that doomsday storyline. The Gotham Herald is one of
Gotham City's newspapers, often reporting on crime and corruption in
the city. It's occasionally referenced in the Batman comics alongside
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the Gotham Gazette. Actually first appeared This is a fun one.
First appeared in The Minstrel's Shakedown, an episode, a fun
and goofy episode from the City's Batman TV show from
September twenty one, nineteen sixty six, where the Minstrel, a
villain dressed in medieval style clothing complete with a tunic,
some tights, a feathered cap, and a lute, disrupts trading
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at the Gotham City Stock Exchange by tampering with the
system in demanding extortion payments from the stockholders. Despite this
whole troubadour like appearance, the Minstrel is basically a tech
genius using his knowledge of electronics to wreak havoc. After
Batman and Robin investigate and track into his hideout, they
are captured and left to die on a human sized
rotisserie while the Minstrul continues plotting more chaos and if
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you want to find out what happens, you got to
come back here, same bat time, same bat channel. The
Metropolis Inquisitor is a tabloid that competes with the Daily
Planet in Metropolis. In the TV series Smallville, Lois actually
begins her career working for the Inquisitor. That's what she's
doing when she first comes onto the show. And finally,
the Daily Planet is the most iconic newspaper in the
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whole DC universe, serving as Clark kent' lowis Lane Jimmy
Olsen's workplace. It is known as a bastion of journalistic integrity,
plays a central role in pretty much all the Superman stories.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I believe it first appear.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
If I've got this right Action Comics number twenty three
from nineteen forty, so it has been around for a
very very long time in the Superman stories. For the
next episode, we got the trailer. We see the headline
Superman Lives, a story by Janet Olson. We also see
Luther is going to send the be Doomsday to kill
Clark again. The episode is called Break the Cycle, and
(22:33):
here is the official description from the CW. Lois makes
increasingly bold moves as she cheaps. When I said, Lois there,
I was almost gonna pull it. Stewie from Family Guy.
Leis Lewis makes increasingly bold moves as she tries to
stop Luther. Jonathan struggles to balance his personal life and
responsibilities while Clark learns an unsettling truth. Okay, so I
(22:55):
did see some images online for this one. Looks like
we get to meet a young Elizabeth Luther, a younger
Lex Luthor doing his best rendition of the Muppet Christmas
Carol Ghost of Christmas Present with that beard and mop
of red hair.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
It looks like we're.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Going to find out a little bit more some more
flashbacks in this one, and we will find out more
about the backstory between Soups and lex in this universe,
so a lot of fun stuff coming up with that.
One of the things I also looked at was the
release schedule for when all the next episodes are coming out,
and thank goodness, it is weekly. It is weekly from
now until December second, so it will be a very
(23:29):
short season, will be done by the time we hit
December second. But this is one of the things. And
if you look at any of the numbers, I think
we are less than I don't remember if we're less
than half a million viewers, but at its peak, I
want to say we were close to might have been over,
but at least close to two million viewers. I think
(23:50):
was original first season, like first few episodes, and then
typically at the beginning of each season you might start
off with a million viewers and then obviously as the
season goes on you kind of dip per episode. This season,
I don't even think we started with maybe like three
quarters of a million viewers, maybe zero point six million.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But one of the big problems has been just.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
The inconsistency of I mean, it has been fourteen months
since we had the previous season, but even at that
we had these huge breaks. You'd have the show it
would air for like three weeks, and then it would
go on a four week hiatus, and then it would
be like two more weeks and then a three week hiatus,
and then it was not consistent. You know, at the
beginning of this season, we moved to a different night.
(24:32):
It's a month, it's a truncated season, it's only the
ten episodes. So I really am glad that it is weekly.
We will get weekly Superman and Lois going forward. But
I wish they would have done this. I feel like,
and not that it wouldn't have ended up getting canceled
anyway with all the stuff going in the background of
the CW and everything that's going on there, but I
really feel like the viewership of this show would have
(24:54):
been more consistent and stronger if they had been able
to keep it as weekly as possible in the previous seasons.
I think that really hurt them. You know, we run
a Superman podcast here, and this is the only thing
this podcast does is basically review this show.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
And there were times where.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
We were getting confused and I had written notes to
tell me when the next episode was going to be.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So if that's the case.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
If people who are trying to put out a show
where we review this show are getting confused about when
the next episode is airing or how many weeks is
it until the next episode comes on, then that's a problem.
The average viewer is not going to take that kind
of effort to make sure that they can find the
show if it's not viewing every week on the same
(25:37):
night at the same time. I really think that's something
that ultimately has hurt them over the course of the seasons.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
They have had.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
But very glad that it's going to be weekly from
now until the end of the season on December second.
So what we will likely do is, and I say
we Dean Jason, they and I have loved being on
this podcast with them so much, but I think because
of schedules, they not necessarily going to be able to
join this season around for this final season. But what
(26:05):
I'd like to try and do is I might be
able to try and get some guests to come on.
I might be able to get Tristan Hi Tristan to
come back for an episode here or there, might be
able to get Dan Jason to come back for an
episode here or there. If we've got some other folks
that are Superman fans, I might bring them in as well,
but when we get to the end of the season
where we've finished it all off on December second, I
definitely before deciding whatever's going to happen with podcast full
(26:28):
of Fryptonite, I definitely would like to do a recap
episode where we talk about all of the seasons, the
entire run of this Superman and Lois show. And my
birthday is in early December, so I think there'd be
a great birthday gift for myself to be able to
do an episode where we recap the whole thing. So
looking forward to doing that. I'm excited for what's going
on in the rest of the season. Overall, thoughts on
(26:49):
this one dropped the ball in a couple of ways.
I really really really wanted to see Clark's reaction to
finding out that John had powers.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
There were parts of this where.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I felt like it was so heavy on the backstory
of these characters that we probably are not going to
get to see ever again. We might see him in
the finale, I imagine we will. I think I saw
a report that everybody comes back for the finale. In
some way, it was good because the first few episodes
of this season have been heavy, very heavy, and so
it was nice to have a break from that to
see some of these characters again, but to have the
(27:20):
entire episode be dedicated to a wedding of characters that
the way we left them was fine. Would I have
been devastated if we didn't get this episode where we
follow up in what's happening with Kyle and Chrissy. No,
So I don't know it was fine to have a
lighthearted episode. I would have probably preferred that it focused
(27:40):
more on Clark and him getting back into things and
the boys. Still you can have Kyle and Chrissy and
all that, but I just don't know that I would
have had that be the focus of the episode and
kind of relegate all the others to a b story.
So it was a nice breather who was a little
bit of a palate cleanser from the very heavy, very
dark episodes that we'd gotten up to this point. I
(28:01):
expect that next week we'll have maybe some more flashbacky
type stuff and then we will be full blast because
we're almost halfway through the season at that point. It's
probably just gonna be a sprint to the end, is
what I'm imagining. So buckle up, up, up and away.
We'll see you back here next time.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
They got talk about this.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
And got so baffled.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
The suit Jo listed the shot, hun the battle, and
prove it. Tell the bottle
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