November 27, 2024 • 30 mins
In this emotionally charged episode of Superman & Lois ("To Live and Die Again"), the stakes reach a breaking point as Clark's weakening powers and Lex Luthor's devious plot set the stage for an explosive showdown. With Doomsday unleashed on Smallville, Clark must confront his mortality while his sons, Jonathan and Jordan, step up to defend their home—and the fate of the Kent family hangs in the balance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've got you, You've got me, Who's got you? Hello?
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Come to me, SunUp Joel Neil before.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So, Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the
podcast Full of Kryptonite. I am your host, John Reid,
and we are We're at our next to last episode,
the penultimate episode of the final season of Superman and Lois,
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and it has been a wild, wild ride this season.
Real quick, just to kind of recap what's been going
on this season leading up to episode nine, Clark died
and spoiler Clark died came back with the help of
General Gramp's heart, and so he has had a sixty
year old heart for most of this season and because
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of that, his powers have been diminishing. He's not what
he once was, and the boys have really had to
kind of pick up the pace here. And that being said,
Jonathan developed his powers this season, and so we have
the Fraternals really and truly are a super team, super
twins if you will. Lex Luthor has really become the
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ultimate threat this season, even originally developing the Doomsday Creature
out of Bizarro by killing him over and over and
over again. Lois was able to stop the Doomsday Creature
by appealing to his heart and that kind of took
him out of commission for a few episodes, and the
stakes have been steadily rising from there, but with Luther
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as the kind of threat in the background, while Doomsday
has been gone for the last episodes. But things really
kind of ramp up pretty quickly. Last episode, Lex Luthor
had obtained the Steel Suit and so he was able
to pull some information from that, and the world now
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knows that Superman's powers are fading. He pulled it from
the scans that John Henry did last time, and so
they're talking. Originally at the beginning of the episode, they're
talking around the table in the kitchen and talking about
how well everybody's going to know you're getting weaker now,
and the boys, Jonathan in particular, is maybe offering a
suggestion that, well, maybe killing is not something that you've
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done in the past, but I don't know how we're
going to deal with Luther otherwise, maybe we have to
take him out permanently. Clark, you know, takes the traditional
Superman stance of no, we do not do that, we
don't and you know, basically he's like, look, he stole
that suit to kill we have to take him out,
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and Clark is like, look, I stooped to his level once.
I'm not going to make I'm not gonna let anybody
else make that same mistake that I made. We get
a word that Lois is facing lawsuits and that her
advertisers are withdrawing due to the Godfrey interview smear campaign
that we saw in the last episode, and Lex when
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he confronts Lois basically his his way of saying that
he's going to be able to put one over on
Lois no matter what he says. All people want is
a good story, put it on a platform that reinforces
how they see themselves, and they'll believe anything. And we
have a lot of back and forth at the beginning
of the episode between Lois and Amanda McCoy, and she
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is still on Luther's side and still believes that she
is going to be his equal partner and his love
interest at this point, so she confronts Lois as well,
letting her know that more lawsuits will be incoming, and
they have a little conversation about Lois's little research board
that she's got going on in the gazette. At this point,
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Lex rewards Amanda McCoy with major Luther Core shares to
strengthen his control over her and his control over the company,
but that gives her that makes her the second most
important person in the Luthor Core business, and that I
think she sees as a way of strengthening her position.
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But you know, it's something where I think we can
kind of tell the writing is on the wall, is
that he doesn't want her as a love interest necessarily.
He wants to be able to control her as he
has in all other situations. And Lois will even bring
this up later on when she tries to tell Amanda, like,
look look what he did to his own daughter. Look
what he did to Cheryl, Look what he did to
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his own daughter. He uses people, That's what he does.
I skipped a scene where Clark goes to c Lex
and tries to, you know, appeal to him to stop again,
and they have this conversation. I love the way he
leaves it. He's like, nice tie and then Luthor just
as soon as Superman leaves, Luthor just rips off the
tie and is ready to get down to work here
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because he is going moving forward with his plan to
just kill Superman once and for all. He's ready to
be done with all this. I did want to stop
real quick and make a quick comment. I had hoped
that they were going to brighten the colors of the
Superman's suit. I feel like it's gotten darker as the
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season has gone on. There are times where it just
looks downright almost dirty. And I know that that's meant
to kind of reflect his diminishing powers and the fact
that he's died and come back and all of that,
but it just, I don't know. It's one of the
only things that's bothered me about the last couple of episodes,
and this one in particular. You know, when I saw
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the suit, like I again, like, I know that the
color palette for this show has always a little has
always been a little bit more muted, and you know,
in that way, things do look fairly cinematic. I think
we said that a lot during the first season or
two of this show, but I really really and I
maybe they'll do it for the last episode. I don't know,
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but it's it was looking really dark this episode, and
I know a lot of scenes were fairly dark. In
this episode. We had Luther in his office and there's
just a lot of shadow and not a lot of
light in that scene anyway, But yeah, I just I
want to see a brighter Superman suit. So that was
one of my only, probably one of my only criticisms
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of this episode as a whole. Clark comes back to
the Gazette and is talking to Lois about how she's
got a bunch of problems with the advertisers and whatnot.
The boys. I did miss something earlier. The boys had
been at the Vicky May's diner and they find out
that the I have a bunch of menu items named
after them now because they're all famous. And I think
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was Jonathan's like a French onion dip or something like that,
and Jordan's loaded curly fries were on the kids menu,
so he had he had a bit of a reaction
to his his thing being on the kids menu, but
everybody loves curly fries, so you know. And they're starting
to talk about kind of what they need to do
to try to help keep their family safe and how
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they help their dad through all this because he's not
as strong as he used to be. We get to
a scene where after Clark and Lewis have talked at
the Gazette, the boys are outside and they're taking selfies
with people and they're signing some autographs and whatnot, and
Clark is across the street and he just he kind
of just did a normal voices. Okay, boys, we got
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to talk about something. And then all the people go
nuts because all three super people are all together in
one place, and they decide that Clark decides that they
need to go off to the fortress and do some training,
so they launched themselves into the air to give everybody
a nice show. Lois ends up going to the prison,
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going to Strikers and confronts Bruno Manheim, so it was
good to see him back in this episode, and she
appeals to him for some help. Her plea is that
Luther isn't going to stop at my family. He will
destroy everything good that you've built in Hobbes Bay. Because
Manheim is you know, he's reminding Loas that, look, it's
your fault that he's out. You didn't you had a choice,
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like you didn't have to let him go. And Lois,
of course, being someone who is so focused on the truth,
it was like, no, if he was not guilty of
those crimes, then he had to be released. Mannheim does
not see it.
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That way.
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He's like, no, he's the devil and you you kind
of you made your choice. You let the devil loose,
and this is what happens. When the devil is loose,
he will come after you. And this is a pattern.
It's a pattern of betrayal. And he gives some information
on Cheryl ca Bimble that Lois did not necessarily know
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before that they had been that Luther and Kimball had
been in a relationship and he used her. Lois knows
that she can possibly use that to share with Amanda McCoy.
And then we caught to well, we have a scene.
This is the scene where Luthor is giving Amanda those
extra shares in Luthor Core. It seems very transactional, very businesslike.
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We cut through the scene where Clark and the boys
are in the fortress. It's time to do a little training,
and they make a comment that hey, we've kind of
gone through all this training. He's like, no, no, no, but
you haven't gone through the John Henry Irons suit training.
And I want you guys to realize that when I
fought him, I fought him when I was at my
peak and he nearly killed me. And so I'm not
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at my peak, but you guys are also not at
my peak, and so I give it a try, I mean,
try to land a punch, see what you can do.
And the boys we get this mom to of them
just kind of one right after the other, and they
are failing miserably. You know, they are just completely getting
knocked around. They're trying heat vision, they're trying everything else.
Everything is backfiring, nothing is quite working. And so they
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kind of actually come to the realization that will how
can if we can't, like, how could he possibly do it?
How could one superman with diminished powers possibly defeat Lex Luthor?
If the two of them young fast boys can't do it,
then how would he possibly be able to do it?
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Lois then warns Amanda about Lex's pattern of betrayal, referencing
Cheryl Kimball. At this point even says, Hey, ask Luther
about Cheryl. That should tell you everything you need to know.
And this we kind of get a sense that we've
seen little glimpses of Amanda possibly doubting Luther in previous episodes,
but I think we really start to get a sense
here of the fact that she is maybe seeing a
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little little chink in the armor, so to speak. We
do have I think I might have skipped over scene.
We had a scene with Milton and Luther and they're
kind of going over the new specs on the suit
and what the suit will be able to do. Differently,
Clark is talking to his mother in the fortress to
get some ideas as well, and then Luther discovers as
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they're going through some of the files in the suit,
Milton and Luther kind of discover that there are these
files where they're able to glean some information on John
Henry Irons and the Captain Luther of his world, but
then also knowing that there is a possibility that they
may be able to reactivate the Doomsday Creature. There's a
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Project Doomsday file in there, and they kind of realized
that while law Lewis had turned the creature away at
one point, that they may know where the creature is
based on some information. And I think Luther kind of
realizes at that point that the creature has gone down
into the mines in Smallville because he's trying to get
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back home. So we have this really kind of fun
scene where Clark takes the boys out to do some
more training and we get a little bit of a
teamwork montage here. He does tell them, hey, look I
when I learned, I trained alone, I fought alone. Together,
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you can be better than I ever was. And so
he decides to train them as a twin pair and says, hey,
look you guys, see if you can land a punch. Mean,
we'll see how it goes. They have a kind of
fun little scene where he where he's like, I trained alone,
I fought alone, and I think it's John Nathan. It
might have been Jordan first, but Jonathan starts off with
a Oh, that's really sad. Dad, Do you do you
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need a hug? So they're kind of they're kind of
bantering with him a little bit. But yeah, So we've
got kind of a fun scene where he's basically, I
mean he's he's training them, but he's kind of, you know,
playfully pushed him around a little bit and showing him
that you know, Dad might have a sixty year old heart,
but he might still be faster and you know, smarter
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when it comes to this kind of stuff than they are,
because there's still there's still novices at this. So we
see them trying to trying to land some punches there
we get the realization or Amanda gets the realization that
Luther is not really there to have a relationship with her,
and so this is the moment where she kind of
realizes that her sequence of events that she thought was
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going to take place and how she was going to
play out this whole thing, you know, did not was
not what she was expecting. Then we get Luther confronting
Bizarro in the mines and explaining to the be Doomsday
creature that they both were born from pain, and that
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Luther has while he has reached his final form, he's
going to help Doomsday BA Doomsday reach his final form too,
and he's going to use some of the stuff that
Milton added to the suit. He had mentioned earlier that
he had upgraded the suit, so that what did he say,
He said that he had added in everything was kind
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of kryptonite laced, and what did he say. He said
something about he's added these kind of kryptonite screws into
it where you can fire him off and when it
lodges itself into the person's body, then they explode from
the inside. The idea there being is that Luther is
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going to use that not against Superman, but against be
Doomsday and create in him his final form. We go
back a little bit so that there's the training again
between Clark and the boys, but then they hear the
Doomsday creature and they hear that something is going on
in the mines, and then we are able to hear.
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Everybody starts to hear, Lois starts to hear, Amanda hears,
and then we get this great scene, and this is
kind of a foretelling of what's about to happen, where
Superman goes to the minds to try to help, but
he's too late. The explosion takes place as Lex shoots
those screws into Doomsday's chest, the explosion takes place, everybody
is buried within the mines, and we get this great
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shot of the Doomsday fist punching up through the ground,
which is such a great image. Was it Man of
Steel number eighteen? I see I'm talking through it here
while while you are listening to the podcast. I'm trying
to remember exactly where that image comes from. Where you've
got the fist that's punching up through the ground. I
think it might have been Man of Steel number eighteen.
But we get that image here in the show and
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it's just an awesome image, and that kind of gets
idea of what's about to come, because we know Doomsday
is not just going to be unleashed on Superman, but
unleashed on the entire town. So Clark sends the boys
back to town, tells them, you have got to clear
the town out. I get people away. They land right
in front of Lois and they tell her that, look,
we've got to clear people away. Then we get this
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image from foot to head. Doomsday is back, and he
is We're looking at nineties Doomsday with the with the
bony beard, don't eat me, but shall the bow. So
it was really really exciting to see this, having been
a comic book fan and knowing how much the show writers,
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showrunners of this, and the writers of this clearly loved
nineties Superman. This is the boney Patrusian Doomsday. Lois tries
to talk him down, but gets a mouthful of flame
sent her direction for her troubles and realizes that he is.
Whatever was in there before is completely gone. This is
not bizarro anymore. This is full on Doomsday. One of
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the things where and I thought, here, I'm gonna I'm
gonna stop for a second, kudos to this team for
doing a Doomsday I mean, it's it's c W and
CW budget, But so many times when you see the
Doomsday creature done with CGI, it's done in darkness. It's
that when Smallville did it years ago, it was always dark.
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Batman versus Superman almost always dark. We've got bright midday
sun with CGI Doomsday and it looks outstanding, So great
job like this is awesome. Clark shows up starts fighting
the Doomsday creature. The boys kind of spread out and
start to try to get as many people out as possible.
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And this scene. I love this scene when Jordan goes
into the diner and is it Miss Vicky May. She
is there and she's having a panic attack and she
is just not able to move and he doesn't just
whisk her out of there. I love this scene. He
grabs a coffee mug and he kind of blows some
of his cold breath into it and holds it for
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it here. You need to hold this When I would
have panic attacks, if I held something cold, it kind
of helped me focus. And I just I love this.
This is his character progressing to exactly the person that
he's going to become as he has moved through all
of his super doubts and questioning himself and all that
this is the kind of superboy, someday Superman that Jordan
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will become because we saw him and these are the
kind of things panic attacks and things like that that
he was dealing with. And now he is kind of
the calming, soothing voice that you expect a son of
Superman to be if he learned from his father how
to keep someone calm, how to help them through not
just a physical danger, but a psychological danger. This was outstanding.
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I love that scene for him. Then we've got another
great scene where de Nice is at the Britain Dun
convenience store and there's a car that's flying towards her
and Jonathan shows up and catches it at the last second.
It turns and asks are you okay? And I think
she gives him like two thumbs up. She's like, uh yeah, sure,
yeah good, and he's like, okay, be safe and then
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he flies off. But loving these scenes where the boys
are really stepping up and they are helping as much
as they can now not obviously getting involved in the fight,
which I will be curious based on how the episode ends.
I'll be curious how they move into that for next week,
because I don't know how I see I don't know.
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I don't know how I see Clark getting through this
without the boys helping him through it. But that's we
may be leaving that for the finale for next week,
so we'll have to see. Yeah. So at this point,
we're continuing the fight. Luther kind of checks in with
Mill that he is observing the fight and he's going
to stick around just so he can kind of watch
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what's going on here. He wants to see Superman die,
and we get a scene here at the very end
of the episode where he is Superman is weak, he's
been knocked to the ground. He's trying to get back
up again. Once he does finally stand up, you see
that he's got these gashes in his face. I mean,
he's looking like like Superman number seventy five Superman where
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the doomsday battle has taken its toll and there are
just like hack marks in his face where he's been
punched by these bony protrusions. And at the very end
of the episode, he is looking I mean, he looks
rough and he is just gravely injured. And he's looking
at his family, and I believe the last line was
something like, please stay away, please stay back. I love
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all of you, I always are always, And then before
he can finish the line, the Doomsday creature sweeps in,
grabs him, and flies off, And that's the end of
the episode, and that's what takes us into leading up
to next week's final episode of this entire series, Superman
and Lois. It will be season four, episode ten, titled
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It Went By So Fast. So there's a lot going on.
There's a lot going on in this episode, you know,
a lot of big moments. Clark is still wrestling with
his mortality while trying to prepare the Fraternals for the future.
We've got Jonathan and Jordan are kind of dealing with
some self doubt to stepping up, mean when they really
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step up as protectors of Smallville. By the end of
this episode, Lois is still still dealing with her fight
against Lex. You know, she's on the on the personal
and professional fronts. She's doing everything she can while her
newspaper is being attacked. She's being attacked. Lex is still
the cold, calculating, relentless, just schemer that he is, and
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as he's able to activate Doomsday. We know that this
is going to bring things to a head and raises
questions for the finale. Will Superman survive this? I'm not sure.
I don't know how they're going to take this, because
I could see a storyline in which Clark dies. The promo,
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which I will play the audio of here in just
a moment, the promo seems to show that he is
alive and does survive at least part of this fight
with Doomsday. Now, some of what we saw could be flashbacks,
I don't know. There were rumors that the finale, the
series finale would leap forward in time a bit, so
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I don't know if that's going to be the case.
Will Jonathan and Jordan get involved? Are they going to
be the ones that save Clark? It does look like
we're going to bring back Lana, John Henry, So it
looks like several folks are going to be back for
the finale. What is Loa is going to do? Like Lois,
I mean, she's on the sidelines right now. She had
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been building up to trying to find ways to get
Lex put away for good and with truth this time,
as opposed to with a falsehood so I'll be curious
to see how they wrap that up. One of the
things this show has always done really well is not
just told the superhero story, but has also told the
human story. And that's one thing that I'll be curious
to see how they're going to wrap that up and
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what Lois's next move is going to be. And then
how is Lex's story going to conclude? I mean, he
has been This has been one of the best I
think live action Lex Luthor's that we've gotten. I mean,
Michael Rosenbaum is always one of my favorites, and he
had several years to get his character developed. Obviously you've
got the movie Lex Luthor's as well, but Gene Hackman especially,
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I mean, he may always be Lex Luthor in my
mind just because that's what I grew up with. But
I mean, kudos kudos to this actor that he is.
He has been a pretty vicious Lex Luthor, a pretty
formidable Lex Luthor. So Michaelkudletz has done a great job
as Lex Luthor in this I'll be curious to see
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how his story concludes. Is he going to be Is
he going to be finished off? As in killed? Maybe
not by Clark and not by the boys. I wouldn't
want to see that happen, But what happens to him,
I'll be curious to see. But this episode leading into
this final this final episode of the series finale, it
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just is just emotionally gut wrenching this episode. And that
is the way this entire season has been, I think.
I think while I was hesitant at the beginning of
the season because they had dropped so many of the
series regulars, I was like, oh, man, you're you're basically
not killing but you're basically killing the cast, Like you're
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really cutting out all these people we've kind of gotten
to know. But honestly, with a with a short final
season and focusing really on the Kent family, I think
that was a good move on their part because, and
I've said this before this season, I really do think
that these have been very strong stories. I'm having trouble
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thinking of any episode this season that I would think
of as kind of like a filler episode. Maybe a
little bit with the Kyle and Chrissy wedding episode, but
even that one had some really good stuff in it.
And you know, given that we're not going to see
a lot of these additional characters this season. I think
it was fine to have one episode where we really
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kind of highlighted some of them, but I think it
was a good move. This is very very tight storytelling.
It's really given in this last season. It's really given
everybody a chance to evolve and for their characters to develop.
So I think they've done a really really nice job
with this so leading into the final episode. For this
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episode and for the season so far, feel free to
reach out on Twitter. We are at Superman PFK on Twitter.
What are your favorite moments of this What are your
theories for the finale? I mean, we've got a week,
so let the theories fly, because I'm curious to hear
what other people are thinking. Are we I think that
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but doomsday is that somehow they may find a way
to send him back to his world. But at this point,
I don't know if that's a good idea because he's
not Bizarro, so he's not the person that left that world,
and he may not since he wouldn't react to Lois
trying to talk him down. I'm not even sure that
there's enough in there for him to want to go home.
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So are we looking at some kind of I feel
like they name dropped or at least implied that Clark
has a kind of phantom zone projector available to him.
For some reason. I feel like I remember hearing somebody
at least allude to something like that a few episodes ago.
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So I don't know, do we pop him in the
phantom zone? Do we you know, what do we do
with that? So I'll be curious to see, but I
am excited. I'm excited for next week's epic conclusion to
this season, to this series, it has truly been one
of my favorite Superman stories, especially live action Superman stories.
Tyler Hecking has done an amazing job. Bitsy Tullock is
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going to be enshrined as one of the best Lowest Lanes.
Tyler is one of the best Clark kentson Superman's It's
just been It's been a hit every single season, and
I would love for there to be more. But if
this is what we get, then what we got has
been amazing. And before I play the audio for the
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promo for the series finale, I will just say it
it went by so fast, and it went by too fast,
but it'll be fun to go back and revisit these
all four seasons of this show because I've really really
enjoyed this show, and just again big shout out to
the writers, the showrunners. They have just done an amazing
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job with this show. So thank you for giving us
a great iteration of Superman and his family and all
these characters. It will definitely be missed, but it will
it'll have a place on my shelf with the rest
of my DVDs and Blu rays of all the other
Superman shows that have ever been So here is the
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audio for the final episode of Superman and Lois, And
I'll go ahead and just say now, up, up and
a way, and we'll see you back here next week.
What do you think Superman and Lois Slane will be
remembered for.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'd like to think truth, injustice and a better tomorrow.
You are to work and worthless, just like your mother.
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You will never hurt another person.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I have to keep them saints.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The boys do not live in a bubble anymore. They
live in a real world.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
They're not ready.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
They have each other and they have you, and that's
gonna have to be enough. I promise I'll home. It
is time you finally, Except you can't do this on
your own.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Anymore. He doesn't have to.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
We have an idea.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I will show you right here.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I do it.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Time to die, Lois. You should have to my wife,
my family, my town. But all that is right
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Won't st
I've got you, You've got me, Who's got you? Hello?
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Come to me, SunUp Joel Neil before.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So, Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the
podcast Full of Kryptonite. I am your host, John Reid,
and we are We're at our next to last episode,
the penultimate episode of the final season of Superman and Lois,
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and it has been a wild, wild ride this season.
Real quick, just to kind of recap what's been going
on this season leading up to episode nine, Clark died
and spoiler Clark died came back with the help of
General Gramp's heart, and so he has had a sixty
year old heart for most of this season and because
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of that, his powers have been diminishing. He's not what
he once was, and the boys have really had to
kind of pick up the pace here. And that being said,
Jonathan developed his powers this season, and so we have
the Fraternals really and truly are a super team, super
twins if you will. Lex Luthor has really become the
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ultimate threat this season, even originally developing the Doomsday Creature
out of Bizarro by killing him over and over and
over again. Lois was able to stop the Doomsday Creature
by appealing to his heart and that kind of took
him out of commission for a few episodes, and the
stakes have been steadily rising from there, but with Luther
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as the kind of threat in the background, while Doomsday
has been gone for the last episodes. But things really
kind of ramp up pretty quickly. Last episode, Lex Luthor
had obtained the Steel Suit and so he was able
to pull some information from that, and the world now
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knows that Superman's powers are fading. He pulled it from
the scans that John Henry did last time, and so
they're talking. Originally at the beginning of the episode, they're
talking around the table in the kitchen and talking about
how well everybody's going to know you're getting weaker now,
and the boys, Jonathan in particular, is maybe offering a
suggestion that, well, maybe killing is not something that you've
(02:40):
done in the past, but I don't know how we're
going to deal with Luther otherwise, maybe we have to
take him out permanently. Clark, you know, takes the traditional
Superman stance of no, we do not do that, we
don't and you know, basically he's like, look, he stole
that suit to kill we have to take him out,
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and Clark is like, look, I stooped to his level once.
I'm not going to make I'm not gonna let anybody
else make that same mistake that I made. We get
a word that Lois is facing lawsuits and that her
advertisers are withdrawing due to the Godfrey interview smear campaign
that we saw in the last episode, and Lex when
(03:26):
he confronts Lois basically his his way of saying that
he's going to be able to put one over on
Lois no matter what he says. All people want is
a good story, put it on a platform that reinforces
how they see themselves, and they'll believe anything. And we
have a lot of back and forth at the beginning
of the episode between Lois and Amanda McCoy, and she
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is still on Luther's side and still believes that she
is going to be his equal partner and his love
interest at this point, so she confronts Lois as well,
letting her know that more lawsuits will be incoming, and
they have a little conversation about Lois's little research board
that she's got going on in the gazette. At this point,
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Lex rewards Amanda McCoy with major Luther Core shares to
strengthen his control over her and his control over the company,
but that gives her that makes her the second most
important person in the Luthor Core business, and that I
think she sees as a way of strengthening her position.
(04:33):
But you know, it's something where I think we can
kind of tell the writing is on the wall, is
that he doesn't want her as a love interest necessarily.
He wants to be able to control her as he
has in all other situations. And Lois will even bring
this up later on when she tries to tell Amanda, like,
look look what he did to his own daughter. Look
what he did to Cheryl, Look what he did to
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his own daughter. He uses people, That's what he does.
I skipped a scene where Clark goes to c Lex
and tries to, you know, appeal to him to stop again,
and they have this conversation. I love the way he
leaves it. He's like, nice tie and then Luthor just
as soon as Superman leaves, Luthor just rips off the
tie and is ready to get down to work here
(05:16):
because he is going moving forward with his plan to
just kill Superman once and for all. He's ready to
be done with all this. I did want to stop
real quick and make a quick comment. I had hoped
that they were going to brighten the colors of the
Superman's suit. I feel like it's gotten darker as the
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season has gone on. There are times where it just
looks downright almost dirty. And I know that that's meant
to kind of reflect his diminishing powers and the fact
that he's died and come back and all of that,
but it just, I don't know. It's one of the
only things that's bothered me about the last couple of episodes,
and this one in particular. You know, when I saw
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the suit, like I again, like, I know that the
color palette for this show has always a little has
always been a little bit more muted, and you know,
in that way, things do look fairly cinematic. I think
we said that a lot during the first season or
two of this show, but I really really and I
maybe they'll do it for the last episode. I don't know,
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but it's it was looking really dark this episode, and
I know a lot of scenes were fairly dark. In
this episode. We had Luther in his office and there's
just a lot of shadow and not a lot of
light in that scene anyway, But yeah, I just I
want to see a brighter Superman suit. So that was
one of my only, probably one of my only criticisms
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of this episode as a whole. Clark comes back to
the Gazette and is talking to Lois about how she's
got a bunch of problems with the advertisers and whatnot.
The boys. I did miss something earlier. The boys had
been at the Vicky May's diner and they find out
that the I have a bunch of menu items named
after them now because they're all famous. And I think
(07:01):
was Jonathan's like a French onion dip or something like that,
and Jordan's loaded curly fries were on the kids menu,
so he had he had a bit of a reaction
to his his thing being on the kids menu, but
everybody loves curly fries, so you know. And they're starting
to talk about kind of what they need to do
to try to help keep their family safe and how
(07:23):
they help their dad through all this because he's not
as strong as he used to be. We get to
a scene where after Clark and Lewis have talked at
the Gazette, the boys are outside and they're taking selfies
with people and they're signing some autographs and whatnot, and
Clark is across the street and he just he kind
of just did a normal voices. Okay, boys, we got
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to talk about something. And then all the people go
nuts because all three super people are all together in
one place, and they decide that Clark decides that they
need to go off to the fortress and do some training,
so they launched themselves into the air to give everybody
a nice show. Lois ends up going to the prison,
(08:04):
going to Strikers and confronts Bruno Manheim, so it was
good to see him back in this episode, and she
appeals to him for some help. Her plea is that
Luther isn't going to stop at my family. He will
destroy everything good that you've built in Hobbes Bay. Because
Manheim is you know, he's reminding Loas that, look, it's
your fault that he's out. You didn't you had a choice,
(08:28):
like you didn't have to let him go. And Lois,
of course, being someone who is so focused on the truth,
it was like, no, if he was not guilty of
those crimes, then he had to be released. Mannheim does
not see it.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
That way.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He's like, no, he's the devil and you you kind
of you made your choice. You let the devil loose,
and this is what happens. When the devil is loose,
he will come after you. And this is a pattern.
It's a pattern of betrayal. And he gives some information
on Cheryl ca Bimble that Lois did not necessarily know
(09:03):
before that they had been that Luther and Kimball had
been in a relationship and he used her. Lois knows
that she can possibly use that to share with Amanda McCoy.
And then we caught to well, we have a scene.
This is the scene where Luthor is giving Amanda those
extra shares in Luthor Core. It seems very transactional, very businesslike.
(09:26):
We cut through the scene where Clark and the boys
are in the fortress. It's time to do a little training,
and they make a comment that hey, we've kind of
gone through all this training. He's like, no, no, no, but
you haven't gone through the John Henry Irons suit training.
And I want you guys to realize that when I
fought him, I fought him when I was at my
peak and he nearly killed me. And so I'm not
(09:51):
at my peak, but you guys are also not at
my peak, and so I give it a try, I mean,
try to land a punch, see what you can do.
And the boys we get this mom to of them
just kind of one right after the other, and they
are failing miserably. You know, they are just completely getting
knocked around. They're trying heat vision, they're trying everything else.
Everything is backfiring, nothing is quite working. And so they
(10:17):
kind of actually come to the realization that will how
can if we can't, like, how could he possibly do it?
How could one superman with diminished powers possibly defeat Lex Luthor?
If the two of them young fast boys can't do it,
then how would he possibly be able to do it?
(10:38):
Lois then warns Amanda about Lex's pattern of betrayal, referencing
Cheryl Kimball. At this point even says, Hey, ask Luther
about Cheryl. That should tell you everything you need to know.
And this we kind of get a sense that we've
seen little glimpses of Amanda possibly doubting Luther in previous episodes,
but I think we really start to get a sense
here of the fact that she is maybe seeing a
(11:02):
little little chink in the armor, so to speak. We
do have I think I might have skipped over scene.
We had a scene with Milton and Luther and they're
kind of going over the new specs on the suit
and what the suit will be able to do. Differently,
Clark is talking to his mother in the fortress to
get some ideas as well, and then Luther discovers as
(11:24):
they're going through some of the files in the suit,
Milton and Luther kind of discover that there are these
files where they're able to glean some information on John
Henry Irons and the Captain Luther of his world, but
then also knowing that there is a possibility that they
may be able to reactivate the Doomsday Creature. There's a
(11:47):
Project Doomsday file in there, and they kind of realized
that while law Lewis had turned the creature away at
one point, that they may know where the creature is
based on some information. And I think Luther kind of
realizes at that point that the creature has gone down
into the mines in Smallville because he's trying to get
(12:08):
back home. So we have this really kind of fun
scene where Clark takes the boys out to do some
more training and we get a little bit of a
teamwork montage here. He does tell them, hey, look I
when I learned, I trained alone, I fought alone. Together,
(12:44):
you can be better than I ever was. And so
he decides to train them as a twin pair and says, hey,
look you guys, see if you can land a punch. Mean,
we'll see how it goes. They have a kind of
fun little scene where he where he's like, I trained alone,
I fought alone, and I think it's John Nathan. It
might have been Jordan first, but Jonathan starts off with
a Oh, that's really sad. Dad, Do you do you
(13:05):
need a hug? So they're kind of they're kind of
bantering with him a little bit. But yeah, So we've
got kind of a fun scene where he's basically, I
mean he's he's training them, but he's kind of, you know,
playfully pushed him around a little bit and showing him
that you know, Dad might have a sixty year old heart,
but he might still be faster and you know, smarter
(13:27):
when it comes to this kind of stuff than they are,
because there's still there's still novices at this. So we
see them trying to trying to land some punches there
we get the realization or Amanda gets the realization that
Luther is not really there to have a relationship with her,
and so this is the moment where she kind of
realizes that her sequence of events that she thought was
(13:50):
going to take place and how she was going to
play out this whole thing, you know, did not was
not what she was expecting. Then we get Luther confronting
Bizarro in the mines and explaining to the be Doomsday
creature that they both were born from pain, and that
(14:11):
Luther has while he has reached his final form, he's
going to help Doomsday BA Doomsday reach his final form too,
and he's going to use some of the stuff that
Milton added to the suit. He had mentioned earlier that
he had upgraded the suit, so that what did he say,
He said that he had added in everything was kind
(14:32):
of kryptonite laced, and what did he say. He said
something about he's added these kind of kryptonite screws into
it where you can fire him off and when it
lodges itself into the person's body, then they explode from
the inside. The idea there being is that Luther is
(14:53):
going to use that not against Superman, but against be
Doomsday and create in him his final form. We go
back a little bit so that there's the training again
between Clark and the boys, but then they hear the
Doomsday creature and they hear that something is going on
in the mines, and then we are able to hear.
(15:13):
Everybody starts to hear, Lois starts to hear, Amanda hears,
and then we get this great scene, and this is
kind of a foretelling of what's about to happen, where
Superman goes to the minds to try to help, but
he's too late. The explosion takes place as Lex shoots
those screws into Doomsday's chest, the explosion takes place, everybody
is buried within the mines, and we get this great
(15:36):
shot of the Doomsday fist punching up through the ground,
which is such a great image. Was it Man of
Steel number eighteen? I see I'm talking through it here
while while you are listening to the podcast. I'm trying
to remember exactly where that image comes from. Where you've
got the fist that's punching up through the ground. I
think it might have been Man of Steel number eighteen.
But we get that image here in the show and
(15:57):
it's just an awesome image, and that kind of gets
idea of what's about to come, because we know Doomsday
is not just going to be unleashed on Superman, but
unleashed on the entire town. So Clark sends the boys
back to town, tells them, you have got to clear
the town out. I get people away. They land right
in front of Lois and they tell her that, look,
we've got to clear people away. Then we get this
(16:19):
image from foot to head. Doomsday is back, and he
is We're looking at nineties Doomsday with the with the
bony beard, don't eat me, but shall the bow. So
it was really really exciting to see this, having been
a comic book fan and knowing how much the show writers,
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showrunners of this, and the writers of this clearly loved
nineties Superman. This is the boney Patrusian Doomsday. Lois tries
to talk him down, but gets a mouthful of flame
sent her direction for her troubles and realizes that he is.
Whatever was in there before is completely gone. This is
not bizarro anymore. This is full on Doomsday. One of
(17:04):
the things where and I thought, here, I'm gonna I'm
gonna stop for a second, kudos to this team for
doing a Doomsday I mean, it's it's c W and
CW budget, But so many times when you see the
Doomsday creature done with CGI, it's done in darkness. It's
that when Smallville did it years ago, it was always dark.
(17:28):
Batman versus Superman almost always dark. We've got bright midday
sun with CGI Doomsday and it looks outstanding, So great
job like this is awesome. Clark shows up starts fighting
the Doomsday creature. The boys kind of spread out and
start to try to get as many people out as possible.
(17:49):
And this scene. I love this scene when Jordan goes
into the diner and is it Miss Vicky May. She
is there and she's having a panic attack and she
is just not able to move and he doesn't just
whisk her out of there. I love this scene. He
grabs a coffee mug and he kind of blows some
of his cold breath into it and holds it for
(18:11):
it here. You need to hold this When I would
have panic attacks, if I held something cold, it kind
of helped me focus. And I just I love this.
This is his character progressing to exactly the person that
he's going to become as he has moved through all
of his super doubts and questioning himself and all that
this is the kind of superboy, someday Superman that Jordan
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will become because we saw him and these are the
kind of things panic attacks and things like that that
he was dealing with. And now he is kind of
the calming, soothing voice that you expect a son of
Superman to be if he learned from his father how
to keep someone calm, how to help them through not
just a physical danger, but a psychological danger. This was outstanding.
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I love that scene for him. Then we've got another
great scene where de Nice is at the Britain Dun
convenience store and there's a car that's flying towards her
and Jonathan shows up and catches it at the last second.
It turns and asks are you okay? And I think
she gives him like two thumbs up. She's like, uh yeah, sure,
yeah good, and he's like, okay, be safe and then
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he flies off. But loving these scenes where the boys
are really stepping up and they are helping as much
as they can now not obviously getting involved in the fight,
which I will be curious based on how the episode ends.
I'll be curious how they move into that for next week,
because I don't know how I see I don't know.
(19:43):
I don't know how I see Clark getting through this
without the boys helping him through it. But that's we
may be leaving that for the finale for next week,
so we'll have to see. Yeah. So at this point,
we're continuing the fight. Luther kind of checks in with
Mill that he is observing the fight and he's going
to stick around just so he can kind of watch
(20:05):
what's going on here. He wants to see Superman die,
and we get a scene here at the very end
of the episode where he is Superman is weak, he's
been knocked to the ground. He's trying to get back
up again. Once he does finally stand up, you see
that he's got these gashes in his face. I mean,
he's looking like like Superman number seventy five Superman where
(20:29):
the doomsday battle has taken its toll and there are
just like hack marks in his face where he's been
punched by these bony protrusions. And at the very end
of the episode, he is looking I mean, he looks
rough and he is just gravely injured. And he's looking
at his family, and I believe the last line was
something like, please stay away, please stay back. I love
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all of you, I always are always, And then before
he can finish the line, the Doomsday creature sweeps in,
grabs him, and flies off, And that's the end of
the episode, and that's what takes us into leading up
to next week's final episode of this entire series, Superman
and Lois. It will be season four, episode ten, titled
(21:15):
It Went By So Fast. So there's a lot going on.
There's a lot going on in this episode, you know,
a lot of big moments. Clark is still wrestling with
his mortality while trying to prepare the Fraternals for the future.
We've got Jonathan and Jordan are kind of dealing with
some self doubt to stepping up, mean when they really
(21:37):
step up as protectors of Smallville. By the end of
this episode, Lois is still still dealing with her fight
against Lex. You know, she's on the on the personal
and professional fronts. She's doing everything she can while her
newspaper is being attacked. She's being attacked. Lex is still
the cold, calculating, relentless, just schemer that he is, and
(22:01):
as he's able to activate Doomsday. We know that this
is going to bring things to a head and raises
questions for the finale. Will Superman survive this? I'm not sure.
I don't know how they're going to take this, because
I could see a storyline in which Clark dies. The promo,
(22:22):
which I will play the audio of here in just
a moment, the promo seems to show that he is
alive and does survive at least part of this fight
with Doomsday. Now, some of what we saw could be flashbacks,
I don't know. There were rumors that the finale, the
series finale would leap forward in time a bit, so
(22:44):
I don't know if that's going to be the case.
Will Jonathan and Jordan get involved? Are they going to
be the ones that save Clark? It does look like
we're going to bring back Lana, John Henry, So it
looks like several folks are going to be back for
the finale. What is Loa is going to do? Like Lois,
I mean, she's on the sidelines right now. She had
(23:06):
been building up to trying to find ways to get
Lex put away for good and with truth this time,
as opposed to with a falsehood so I'll be curious
to see how they wrap that up. One of the
things this show has always done really well is not
just told the superhero story, but has also told the
human story. And that's one thing that I'll be curious
to see how they're going to wrap that up and
(23:27):
what Lois's next move is going to be. And then
how is Lex's story going to conclude? I mean, he
has been This has been one of the best I
think live action Lex Luthor's that we've gotten. I mean,
Michael Rosenbaum is always one of my favorites, and he
had several years to get his character developed. Obviously you've
got the movie Lex Luthor's as well, but Gene Hackman especially,
(23:49):
I mean, he may always be Lex Luthor in my
mind just because that's what I grew up with. But
I mean, kudos kudos to this actor that he is.
He has been a pretty vicious Lex Luthor, a pretty
formidable Lex Luthor. So Michaelkudletz has done a great job
as Lex Luthor in this I'll be curious to see
(24:10):
how his story concludes. Is he going to be Is
he going to be finished off? As in killed? Maybe
not by Clark and not by the boys. I wouldn't
want to see that happen, But what happens to him,
I'll be curious to see. But this episode leading into
this final this final episode of the series finale, it
(24:33):
just is just emotionally gut wrenching this episode. And that
is the way this entire season has been, I think.
I think while I was hesitant at the beginning of
the season because they had dropped so many of the
series regulars, I was like, oh, man, you're you're basically
not killing but you're basically killing the cast, Like you're
(24:54):
really cutting out all these people we've kind of gotten
to know. But honestly, with a with a short final
season and focusing really on the Kent family, I think
that was a good move on their part because, and
I've said this before this season, I really do think
that these have been very strong stories. I'm having trouble
(25:15):
thinking of any episode this season that I would think
of as kind of like a filler episode. Maybe a
little bit with the Kyle and Chrissy wedding episode, but
even that one had some really good stuff in it.
And you know, given that we're not going to see
a lot of these additional characters this season. I think
it was fine to have one episode where we really
(25:37):
kind of highlighted some of them, but I think it
was a good move. This is very very tight storytelling.
It's really given in this last season. It's really given
everybody a chance to evolve and for their characters to develop.
So I think they've done a really really nice job
with this so leading into the final episode. For this
(26:00):
episode and for the season so far, feel free to
reach out on Twitter. We are at Superman PFK on Twitter.
What are your favorite moments of this What are your
theories for the finale? I mean, we've got a week,
so let the theories fly, because I'm curious to hear
what other people are thinking. Are we I think that
(26:22):
but doomsday is that somehow they may find a way
to send him back to his world. But at this point,
I don't know if that's a good idea because he's
not Bizarro, so he's not the person that left that world,
and he may not since he wouldn't react to Lois
trying to talk him down. I'm not even sure that
there's enough in there for him to want to go home.
(26:43):
So are we looking at some kind of I feel
like they name dropped or at least implied that Clark
has a kind of phantom zone projector available to him.
For some reason. I feel like I remember hearing somebody
at least allude to something like that a few episodes ago.
(27:03):
So I don't know, do we pop him in the
phantom zone? Do we you know, what do we do
with that? So I'll be curious to see, but I
am excited. I'm excited for next week's epic conclusion to
this season, to this series, it has truly been one
of my favorite Superman stories, especially live action Superman stories.
Tyler Hecking has done an amazing job. Bitsy Tullock is
(27:27):
going to be enshrined as one of the best Lowest Lanes.
Tyler is one of the best Clark kentson Superman's It's
just been It's been a hit every single season, and
I would love for there to be more. But if
this is what we get, then what we got has
been amazing. And before I play the audio for the
(27:47):
promo for the series finale, I will just say it
it went by so fast, and it went by too fast,
but it'll be fun to go back and revisit these
all four seasons of this show because I've really really
enjoyed this show, and just again big shout out to
the writers, the showrunners. They have just done an amazing
(28:08):
job with this show. So thank you for giving us
a great iteration of Superman and his family and all
these characters. It will definitely be missed, but it will
it'll have a place on my shelf with the rest
of my DVDs and Blu rays of all the other
Superman shows that have ever been So here is the
(28:29):
audio for the final episode of Superman and Lois, And
I'll go ahead and just say now, up, up and
a way, and we'll see you back here next week.
What do you think Superman and Lois Slane will be
remembered for.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'd like to think truth, injustice and a better tomorrow.
You are to work and worthless, just like your mother.
(29:09):
You will never hurt another person.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I have to keep them saints.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The boys do not live in a bubble anymore. They
live in a real world.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
They're not ready.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
They have each other and they have you, and that's
gonna have to be enough. I promise I'll home. It
is time you finally, Except you can't do this on
your own.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Anymore. He doesn't have to.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
We have an idea.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I will show you right here.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I do it.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Time to die, Lois. You should have to my wife,
my family, my town. But all that is right
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Won't st
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