Empowering Women Through Storytelling and Sisterhood with Kimberly Spencer

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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really appreciate that. So my guest for this program, there
is a lot that be said, and I could probably
go ahead and spend hours upon hours to go introduce
this guest, but I'm gonna just say something that she
has said about herself and it'll be the maybe the
most encompasy way to kind of introduce our guests today.

(00:51):
She believes in miracles. Manolo's are the power and profit
of mistakes. She's fueled by green juice, Italian espresso, and glitter,
and she's empowered hundreds of the leaders to build empires,
overcome self limiting beliefs, and transform stories of self sabotage
into success. I'm here with an entrepreneur, coach, motivacial speaker,
host of several podcasts, most notably Crown Yourself and Communication Queens.

(01:15):
I'm here with Kimberly Spencer. Kimberly, thanks for being on.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Thanks so much for having me, Brosco. It's such an
honor to be here with you that from one queen
to a king, it's so great to communicate, just to know.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I only put that out there for myself only because
of the fact that, you know, in twenty twelve, that
domain was available, that name was available on social media.
Nobody picked that up yet. And for me, I've done
over twenty five thousand hours of podcasting, whether it's editing, hosting,
producing all of it. And that's again I've put the
work into it. I've edited down, I've had to produce them,

(01:49):
I had to a handsom, I had to scrub them,
clean them, clip them. All that. It's been for a
long time. So I mean that's the part I come from.
You know, again, I might crown myself, but because the
accolades like you have, you have quite a few aclades
for yourself. But it didn't mean it did not come
with a lot of motivation, and a whole lot of

(02:11):
obstacles that came in your way from quite a few
things that you mentioned in your own story and you
talked about coming from it was a broken family, the
fact that you went through so much to try to
go and bring yourself up to where you are today.
First of all, there is you were talking about how

(02:31):
you were captivated by stories of powerful women, especially princesses,
who ruled with passionate purpose. You had issues early as
nine years old, where first of all, the Pennessee and
addiction were the norm at home. You were dealing with beliemium,
body image isues, hiding behind a facade of having it
all together. You were in a cycle of self sabotage,
you said, believing that you were broken, constantly seeking validation

(02:53):
through achievements. So there's another program. I do also talk
to quite a bit about dating society, culture, and I
do talk quite a bit about trauma. I'll take my
own trauma on that program, believe it or not. But
the thing is is that it's so much more common
that people will give credit to. There are not enough
people to go to going out there, to go and
seek there. But you're trying to see help in some

(03:15):
cases because, like you said yourself, that cycle so sabotage
trying to keep the facade of having it all together.
So when you put that out there and you're speaking
to others about your story, talk to me about trying
to go ahead and break that cycle.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, you break the cycle with truth, Like that's you
have to be honest about where you are, where you're at,
what's going on in your life. And that's how you
break the cycle is you start sharing. Because shame loves
secrets and so as I started to just like, oh,
put the shine some light on these cracks. Like specifically,
it started with me sharing that I was struggling when

(03:53):
I was fifteen years old, like after four or five
years of silent struggle with bolimia, pouring light into those
stories and letting people see and then being open to
receiving support. Now, initially I didn't know what that looked like.
But that's the power of stories, and that's why I'm

(04:14):
such an advocate for podcasts and going on podcasts and
sharing your stories because it wasn't until I moved out
of the environment of my childhood home and started teaching pilates,
and that was my first entrepreneurial venture. At the age
of nineteen, I was a freelance pilates and structure. That
was my first business, and that business allowed me to

(04:38):
suddenly be surrounded by ten different people five days a week,
ten hours a day, learning and hearing their stories. Because
just like a hairstylist or any other service based profession
where you're working one on one with a person, you're
going to start to hear different stories. And what I
started to hear was different belief systems, different strategies for living,
different ways of surviving and and different ways of thriving.

(05:03):
And that's the power of being able to share and
listen to podcasts and listen to other people's stories is
because you are exposing yourself to new strategies of possibility.
And that's the power and story. That's why I'm such
an advocate for sharing and speaking the truth and sharing
your story, ensuring the ugly andsuring also the successes because

(05:24):
having worked with high achieving leaders for nine years, like
a lot of times they brush over their successes really
fast and they don't take the time to acknowledge Holy crap,
I built a company that's currently like not mean, but
one of my clients built a company that's currently on
the stock exchange for five billion dollars. Like, wow, that's
a pretty significant accomplishment, but as high achievers were like, oh,

(05:46):
well did that. Now I'm onto the next thing. So
we don't actually get to embody that success. And I
think that that's one of the We're very good at
owning our mistakes and our flaws and our foibles eventually,
but sometimes it's owning our successes, and it's owning the
things that make us great and the things that we
do really really well that also needs to be significantly

(06:10):
owned as well.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So what do you thy about the demographic of the
audience that has really latched onto your program, Because one
of the things that I will be really curious about is,
you know, the sooner that someone is able to confront
the obstacles that they're dealing with the fact that they
are in that cycle of self sabotage, they want to
get themselves out of this black hole, what's holding them down?
This quick sand that's going to keeping them in place?

(06:33):
That you know, as long as you're in that mindset,
you're still stuck with all these things that you're trying
to keep that fuss side together, bad decisions come in play,
and we obviously know that it happens. You know, if
you're able to catch someone who's younger and help them
curb that sooner, obviously that's going to be a tough
sell because of the fact that there's a rebilious nature

(06:54):
to someone who might be a teenager even in the
early twenties to make changes because they don't feel like
they need to make a change, and there's kind of
a stigma that will be thought about, Well, it's like
somebody that has to go twelve steps, they become a
completely different person to get very religious. They just become
somebody else and they're not even a shell of their
former self. Then that might isolate some of the people
they had in their life. What do you say about

(07:14):
that in terms of the audience that comes in and
how they at the point of when they've caught onto
your programs.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, I mean, this is why having coaches and mentors
is incredibly essential as you go through your own evolution,
because you're gonna have moments where you're gonna get stuck
in a chrysalis and you're gonna come out of butterfly
and all the other caterpillars you've been hanging with will
be like wait, hold on, like wait, she now can fly,

(07:41):
Like that's not that's not who she was, that's not
the pointy word be. And so it's very important to
surround yourself with people who are constantly thinking and challenging
the norms and challenging and up leveling their circle of thinking.
And in that space like yes, you will encounter things

(08:01):
flowing away. Most people come to me. I work predominantly
with business owners as their coach. They come to me
because they know they're they're the problem. Like they're aware
that they're the problem. They're aware that they're getting in
their own way, They're aware that there's a productivity bottleneck
that's being that's causing a lack of growth in their revenue,

(08:22):
and so to we get to work on that. But
sometimes I will say, like we've I've worked with clients
through their buyouts, through firing employees, through you know, scaling
and having to let customers go. Or my one of
my favorite but like not favorite stories is one of
my clients who as she was growing, suddenly I hate

(08:43):
group started forming around like her business. Wow, and yeah,
just of former customers who just just decided to form
this group around it was it was crazy, but the
ability to hold someone to that higher standard of who
they're becoming. And I work by a very simple principle
that that which is conscious manifests happily, and that which

(09:05):
is unconscious manifest unhappily. And so if you look at
being the creator of your life and the causal of
your circumstances, then that actually gives you significant creative power
to say, Okay, well, if I cause this problem, then
how can I create something new? How can I create

(09:27):
something different? And that is where and I didn't understand
this concept of the power of ownership until in my
mid to late twenties. I would say, because while there
were areas of my life that I would selectively choose
to own, there were other areas that I was like, no, no, no, no,
I'm going to play the victim in this role. This

(09:47):
area is like I'm not this one. I get to
blame people in this one, I get to complain about
But unfortunately, if you're in that if you're in that space,
and this is coming from someone and I want to
make this very clear that there is a big difference
between being a victim of an experience and being in
a victim mindset that perpetuates that experience is being the

(10:10):
dominant factor of your life. And this is coming from
someone who has experienced literally every single form of abusing,
including sexual. So I say this with all the love
in my heart that the only way that you move
through that the fastest is through radical ownership. It is
through saying, Okay, yes, that happened in my past, and

(10:34):
now how am I allowing that to still impact my
present and my future? Because I had to realize when
I was about eighteen years old, it was seventeen eighteen
and I was recovering from Bolimia, that it was never
my dad shoving my finger down my throat, like even
though I blamed him for, oh, you know, the addiction

(10:55):
that I grew up being very familiar with. I could.
I had all the reasons of therapy as to why
it was why I did what I did, but that
didn't mean that I was stopping doing and what I
did to myself well, I think.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Is also there was the family structure. It always goes
back that I feel like, and you know, if you
if there was a father figure, even it's just a
male in your life that could have been there to
just to give the validation to make you feel like, listen,
don't you know beat yourself up. You're beautiful, you're smart,
you're incredible as you are, and that just as just

(11:32):
that one cheerleader you have at home constantly, that will
help you bring yourself back to the ground that realize
that all these other areas come in that you know
you don't have to go and bring yourself to so
much anxiety and bring yourself to the point of the
depression feeling like there's you know, you're incomplete and then
there's something wrong with you.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I can only imagine now where social media comes in
a play. I will bring about that in a moment,
because social media obviously amplifies everything in this spex. But
I want to ask this for a quick question with you, Kimberly.
There was a show that I actually got to produce with.
She's a six time Emmy, a warn winning news director
at Maria Retan. We had a show that we did
over three hundred episodes for called Purse Strings. It was

(12:13):
marketing women podcast. And then she did another show which
I think you would have been a perfect shooting for
this program. And that was called Dream Possible. It wasn't
a long series, we only did about twenty four episodes,
but it was rofiles of professional women who redefined the
success or jobs or industry, their hobbies, and how they
have been empowered to innovate or reimagine both in their
personal and professional lives, and how they learned how to

(12:36):
dream it and make their dreams possible. So you had
the dreams going on early on, But what I want
to ask about is what she would ask her guests,
how did you conceive it and make it reality? Take
what you were looking at as a dream and making
it possible overcoming the odds.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I mean, I think that that's one of the challenges
of the dichotomy that I grew up with because I
grew up with the addiction side, but I also grew
with parents who radically believed in me. Like so I
had the really crappy tools of coping mechanism, right, but
I still had radical belief system that I could do
anything and that I was very fully supported in the

(13:14):
paths that I chose to take, even though unconventional. I mean,
it was my father who was like, yeah, I think
that you should like he agreed with my decision to
drop out of college two weeks before I was supposed
to start to join an acting class in Hollywood so
that I could study with one of the great acting
teachers who named James Franco and Sean Aston, and also

(13:34):
learn how to write plays and intern in Hollywood. And
that was my dream early on, was to work in
Hollywood because it was the only space that I saw
that I could make the income and impact that I
wanted to make at the time I grew up in
la but through entrepreneurship, because I had seen my parents grow,
even with my dad being an addict, a business from

(13:54):
nothing to a successful, multimillion dollar business by the time
that my past and that was when I came on
to help with their marketing in twenty nineteen twenty twenty.
But that those experiences of so I didn't see entrepreneurship
because I still had the childhood programming of oh broke,
entrepreneurship equals broke when I was when I was younger, like,

(14:17):
I didn't see entrepreneurship as as a means, but I
realized that I'm naturally an entrepreneur because I mean, like
my bios said, I was like selling bags of glitter
water at five split testing price points for five cents
or fifty dollars. Like, I've always been entrepreneurial, and I've
always had this knack of being able to see how
trends are and I am a and I honestly attribute

(14:40):
this to like experiencing challenge growing up in childhood. Adversity
is I see patterns, and so I not only see
patterns in people, but I see patterns in business, and
I see patterns in industry. And that's a superpower and
that's allowed me to jump on to different That's why
one of the things the patterns that I chose was
that after I had my first feature film picked up

(15:01):
distributed lines to get picked it up, Netflix picked it up.
After that first feature film that I co wrote, Bro
got picked up, I was like, I see the pattern
that I actually prefer to be more in the driver's
seat than the architect, which is basically the architect is
the screenwriter, like right, not as much decision making power
once you finish this script. And I said, I wanted,

(15:26):
you know, I saw entrepreneurship as that vehicle to be
able to be the director, be the producer, be the
writer and have the team that does the production of
the business. And so I started to see entrepreneurship as
this avenue that I could have everything that I wanted
from Hollywood, but without the weird Hollywood stuff that sometimes
goes down in Hollywood. And then the being able to

(15:51):
just have that audacity, Like I've always had a level
of audacity when it came to wanting something. And maybe
that's you know, like there could be a bajillion different reasons,
but that's I think, honestly, it's just a part of
who I am is I've always when I see something
that I really deeply want and I don't self sabotage,

(16:13):
then I go after it full bore and my husband
calls me a hurricane, like he's like, it's a freight
trained like forget it, Like, well, I know it's already done.
So it's in that that audaciousness that sometimes it can
seem a little delusional to people, right, But that's why
being very particular with who you share your dreams with

(16:38):
and making sure you're sharing your like a lot of
times people share their dreams with people to seek that validation,
to get that that, oh, this is a good idea,
rather than trusting that, knowing that's inside their heart. That's like,
oh no, this is a really good idea. I believe
in this. I'm fully backing this. So I actually keep

(16:58):
most of my ideas and most of my projects very
close to the chest until we're starting to release it.
And I just saw an interviewed with Sarah Blakely and
it was like, oh, she said she did, she recommended
doing the same thing. I was like, she does too,
So that was that was cool validation for me considering
that her new Shoes sneaks. I'm like all all about.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Right now, your time in Hollywood being the screenwriter, doing
three years plus to get to see this movie, brow
the film go from some of you scribbling that was
a manuscript into an actual full full length feature film
that did get released to theaters. And the other part
was in Hollywood you were always surrounded by in the

(17:44):
areas of talent agencase and entertainment companies where you're seeing
probably other fellow scriptwriters or actors that are aspiring a
lot of aspiring people in Hollywood is what you're seeing.
And they all come on their own level of I imagine,
emotional or physical or logical trauma. Because unfortunately. I always
feel like with some people in the Hollywood, you had
to be some kind of broken to make it into

(18:06):
that field over there in the first place. And then
on top of that, you know, it's such an insurmountable
for some people to feel like it's an impossible feat
to break into Hollywood because there's only so many people
allowed to go and make it in. And also about
how you know who you know and you did that
and you brought that in here, So how much of
that still encompasses what you're doing today because of the

(18:30):
people that you were surrounded by, like yourself, trying to
make something of themselves in such a hard field to
get into.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I think that's the beauty of looking at the skill
set that is mastered through whatever industry. So I look
at the principles that I learned when I was interning
different agencies. Well, now with our Communication Queen's agency, we
leverage the same style of casting in essence for our

(18:58):
clients that we put on Punch Like, we are using
the same processes from Hollywood in that process. The same
is true when we started our production for Crown Yourself
the podcast and Communication Queen podcasts, we use a similar
Hollywood production structure of indevelopment, pre production production, post production, distribution,

(19:19):
and model that same flow. It's work for Hollywood for
one hundred years, you might as well just model it.
And so there are those principles of flow and structure
that really work. Same with the principle of it's not
it's not white now, it's who you know. And that's
really why I am such an advocate for people going
for business owners, especially going on other people's podcasts. I mean,

(19:42):
I wrote the frickin' book on it. Go make every
podcast want you how to become so radically interesting you'll
barely keep from interviewing yourself because there is so much
power in the proximity with a podcaster because as podcasters,
you know Brasco like, we're interviewing people constantly, we're meeting
new people, we're constantly up leveling our circle of influence.

(20:05):
And that's incredibly powerful for a business owner if they
build a quality relationship, because everything is really about the
relationship and people feel, just like in Hollywood, when you're
in a relationship to get something rather than to give something.
And I think that that's when you can approach any
relationship from an act of generosity and service and looking

(20:29):
at how can I support you, How can I build
you up? Not just build me up, but build you up?
How can I support your audience by being on your
show and truly add value. It's that mindset shift alone
that starts to build quality relationships rather than a relationship
based on taking.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
You have definitely taken your own personal experience and you
have brought it out there so far with what you've
done in terms of creating various speaking engagements, to writing
your own book about your own issue of believing when
it comes to mindful meals, how to eat like a queen,
stillic looking princess, and all these different areas you've brought

(21:10):
yourself out and you spread yourself out with with your podcast.
I mean, when you be able to go ahead and
open yourself up so much, I mean, do you feel
like there's anything that you would leave that is personal
or do you feel like you could just that there
has them anything you feel like that is not out
of bounds that you would never be able to go
and not talk about.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, I mean I think if there's a personal problem
that I'm dealing with presently, I don't share that on
a podcast. Interview. I don't share that publicly because it's
not healed, so there's still and especially because we want
to be aware of the emotions that we're bringing to
the table. Every story I bring has come with healing. Now,
the other line that I that I to dance with

(21:53):
is when it comes to my kids. So my kids
are seven three and I have one on the way,
and they are the life there, my life like, and
they also I don't know if there's something that I
say that may impact their influence there. You know, we
never know this years down the road. I mean, I

(22:15):
saw there was an Instagram challenge that was happening on
social media that I was enraged by, and it was
this one where you are it's like you smash an
egg on your kid's face. And I was like, first
of all, that's abuse. Second of all, that's cool, and
like you're doing it. You're like, oh, we're going to
bake cookies together and hah, look at how funny this is.

(22:37):
And thirdly, you film it for all the internet to see.
I'm like, that's that's going to stay on the Internet.
And following your child throughout their life knowing that their
parent was quite frankly a bit of an asshole and
an attention seeking asshole, Like that doesn't serve anyone and

(22:57):
it doesn't serve the child. So like I obviously I'm
very discerning with what I post and share about my kids.
Sometimes I'll share, you know, a challenge that we had
to overcome with communication or something like that, but I
share it from the learned perspective, not from let me
tell you about how terrible my child's tantrum was, Like

(23:18):
that's not I always consider like, how is this going
to impact them years down the road when they're an adult,
and what will they think of because podcasts, the Internet,
these things, you put it out there and it lasts,
and so being aware of, especially as a parent, of
like what are you sharing because your kids don't have

(23:38):
full consent, like they kind of have an idea. And myself,
I have one son who's like, it's like, mommy, can
you share this picture? And I'm like, okay, but he
has a kind of idea. And then I have another
son who's much more private and so he doesn't like
want even to take a picture, and I'm like, oh honey,
we're just going to take a picture and this is
just for us. This is just for our family, right,

(23:59):
So being able to to toe that line and share that,
like I share my challenges as a mother that I process,
but it's not focusing the attention or the spotlight on
my kids. That's that's another hard line that I have.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
The other two is you and your husband also very
much into Hollywood doing work as voice actor, actor, various
things he's doing as well. We're working with a lot
of great stars as well. Like you have what you're
for yourself, you know, what do you do in terms
of if there's anything you can share in terms of parenting
tips and ideas because of the fact that it's so
hard and really so easy for parents to turn into

(24:40):
holicopter parents and to maybe give a little too much
credence to their kids. Obviously you're gonna love and you're
gonna feel like they're they're successful and whatever they're doing.
You want to feel like you want to give that
to them, but you also want to feel like, well,
they have to go and learn how to you know,
fall down and pick themselves back up.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Well, I'm very much on the other side. I'm very
much like letting them learn how to fall and pick
themselves up. Like I had. I had a lovely, amazing
helicopter mom and those and those experiences of just and
I understand because my mom was forty when she had me,
I was from a miracle baby, Like she was like

(25:19):
that was a she didn't think that they had been
trying for eighteen years to have a baby. And so
I'm the miracle. And that that I understand why she
was so gay that she was, And I understand that
there are certain learnings that I learned. And then there's
things that now that she's with us, and like we

(25:41):
have Grandma and we have a multi generational household now
and it's beautiful that she gets to like be a
part of my kids' lives and since my father passed
and she gets to you know, she's involved. And she's
also very growth minded, and I think that that's something
that's important for the kids to see. Is it that
I I don't want them to grow up thinking mommy

(26:03):
and daddy are the ultimate authority, they never make any mistakes.
I'm like, no, no, no, I made a mistake, And I
own that just as much as when my kids make
a mistake, because I want them to see that modeled kids,
don't they don't listen to what you say all the time,
but they model who you are and that's important. When
I had a vision when I first started Crowing Yourself,

(26:23):
my coaching company back in twenty fifteen, and I was
at a conference and somebody was like, what's your vision,
I said, I want to impact a million children. They're like,
but don't you work with adult I said, well, I
got to work with the parents first. Nor being able
to work with the parents and get them to model
the behavior, because I think that there's something so powerful
when you also model going for your dreams, when you

(26:45):
also model being a present parent and also simultaneously building
something that you're proud of. Like my kids know my
book is coming out on September thirty, and they're like involved.
They look at the cover, they see the and them
they're like, oh, what are you doing mommy on this book.
And then we as a family have since we homeschool,

(27:06):
we are doing an entrepreneurship project with the kids, and
we're doing another book release called It's Just a Fart,
which is a children's book that's coming out in November.
Oh boy, And and we're going to be and that's
part of my kid's job is they get to monitor
the well were my seven year old, that's my three

(27:28):
year old. My three year old is like, hey, I
get to self phon. But they get to monitor, you know,
the products coming in, and they get to monitor their
revenue and the profit. And that's their math skills. And
so we get to build these life skills into them
of entrepreneurship because I do believe no matter whether you're
in show biz or not, show biz itself is very

(27:48):
geared for entrepreneurs because it's called show business for a reason.
And whatever they decide to do, the skill sets of learning,
influential conversations, communication, sales, these are skill sets that they
can transfer into any industry, into any job anywhere, for
whatever they want to do.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Now, I notice that with your podcast with Crowning Yourself specifically,
there's in some weeks it's for me. In some months,
you might have up to eight episodes in a month,
or some you might have it before you do obviously
have a point where I feel like when you're doing
the episodes in some cases as a matter of if
you have that content available, you're going to try to
get out there as soon as you can, and you

(28:32):
know it's a lot that you're putting out there for
folks not to mention you know, what is it. I
guess my questions will be your motivation for putting out
quite a bit of content very frequently.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I think content is king, Like I'm in agreement with
Gary V on that. Yeah, And I think also it's
about building a relationship with my audience. So my audience,
they may be ruggling with one area of their life
and they need another area of their life they have

(29:07):
got pretty well handled. But either way, the content really
serves because we're talking about principles not just practices in
order to serve those areas that they can cross pollinate
into the area that they're struggling with. And for me
putting out the content for the podcast and so often,

(29:27):
and we've had the crowd Yourself podcast since twenty nineteen.
That podcast has been it's evolved so much. It's grown
up with my company. It's grown up with me, like
it's it has evolved from originally it was called the
Princess and the Bee. Then we changed into like, well,
our company is called Cracking Yourself, why not just call
it ground Yourself? Like we have a trademark, right, so

(29:47):
we just changed it to that a couple of years
ago and really focused on the tools and the practices
and the principles of what it means to live an
empowered life, where you're building life on your own terms,
where you're doing life as you want to design it,
not as the world has designed it for you. And
then when we chose to create the Communication Queen podcast,

(30:08):
which is another like another feat and of itself as
you know, like having multiple podcasts, like we decided with
that company, I said, I want to focus as specifically
on the tools for those who are getting started. So
what we've noticed is with our audiences, Crown Yourself draws
a more established entrepreneur audience. Communication Queens draws people who

(30:31):
are interested in podcasting. They're beginning and a lot of
you know, people who are interested in podcasting because the
stats to show ninety percent of podcasters don't make it
past ten episodes. They are normally more beginners in business
and a lot of times and so we are noticing
that that's drawing a more either a marketing crowd for

(30:53):
specifically where they want to learn the tools and tactics
of like how to leverage a podcast or podcast guesting
specifically to market their business. Yeah, or it's attracting beginning
business owners who want to get it right the first time.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
So we're gonna get the communications queens. I want to
get advantage on that in just a second. But I
also want to just come back into the fact that
with Crown Yourself, the podcast itself, you know, over one
hundred and twenty thousand downloads, forty five countries. Obviously he's
grown since then.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Forty five thousand.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Now there we go.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, and you had quite a few guests you've had
on that are entrepreneurs, conscious leaders Blink bar Ceo, Tery Schuss,
Scherie Pvcjim Lea, Valencia Key and Walkers Suly CEO Tashbrooks.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
So with some of the stories that you bring on
board and their stories, what would you say would be
the key in those podcasts because of how open and
honest and forthcoming you have been about yourself and more
specifically about what you've done in the past decade or so,
you could say like cause you've talked about you've your
best friend, you ran marathons, wrote a best selling book,

(31:54):
Certifications delivered to tad x Talk, built multiple successful businesses,
all while breaking psyche to view self sabotaged. How do
you make it as a podcaster, as a podcast host
to help get more that emotional component of those guests,
to have them come up and open about their own
experiences outside of their businesses. You know, what it would

(32:15):
you be saying, is how do you feel like you've
been able to going to do that? Is it more
based on the fact of how much you've been able
to open up yourself and what you might say to
them to bring them at east to go ahead and
be a little more forthcoming, a little more open about
what happened to them.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, I think it's it's more about the skill set
of coaching, of guiding and leading, and in the conversation
also being able to hold space for the pauses, hold
space for the self discovery that sometimes can come from
a podcast interview. I mean, I know I've I'm really
one of the things I'm very proud of about my
podcast is that I've had multiple times therapists, founders, CEOs

(32:54):
say I've never shared this before, and I'm sharing this now,
And that's something that is really sacred to me that
people would feel that with me and my audience, they
feel comfortable opening up with that level of vulnerability, and
I think that that comes with leading by example, and
that's the whole principle of Crown Herself. It is self leadership,

(33:16):
it is leading with These are the principles that I
believe in creativity, ownership, vulnerability, and courage and opening up
the door for those courageous conversations to be shared in public.
I mean, I remember when I like Leah Valencia Key.
She's a dear friend of mine, and I reached out

(33:37):
to her after the George Floyd murder and I said,
I'd like to have a conversation about race. And She's like,
I'd never had this conversation before. I said, neither have I.
And I said, would you be open to doing a
conscious conversation on this on a podcast? As she came
back as an incredibly successful black woman, like she is
just amazing, she is a QC mobile and we had

(34:00):
the conversation for her second episode and it was this
beautiful space And I got so many emails from my
audiencing thank you for holding space for this conversation that
we didn't know how to navigate and being able to
open up and have that and honor the conversation with
curiosity and not with judgment. I think when we as podcasters,

(34:24):
we become better hosts when we set aside any preconceived notions, judgments,
or even expectations for how we think the interview should
go and allow for the present moment to guide us
with curiosity as to like, oh, maybe there's something here
that we can explore together, and maybe there's something here
that we can explore together, and that opens up opens

(34:45):
up new realms of possibility, not only for us as
humans between like the podcaster and the guest, but for
the audience to listen to that. And that's honestly why
I think every politician should have a podcast. Quite frankly,
I think that we would have much more open, transparent
discussions rather than the divisiveness that we see these days.

(35:06):
With just being able to hold the space for a
longer form conversation of curiosity.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I love that. Now let's pool on the communication queens.
So when I look at that, I see there's really
I feel like there's a lot of public relations that's
going and getting involved and helping to get people in
front of the right sources, the right places to go
and get their message or get themselves found and discovered.
So give me a gun on the lea out of
what communications queeze that podcast and tells.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
So I started Communication Queens the agency because podcast guesting
alone from my coaching company Generator has generated over a
quarter of a million dollars in sales in new business revenue.
And I initially started a course, watched it to my community,
They loved it, watched it again. It bombed and I
said why And I asked them and I got the
feedback and I said, well, we don't want to learn
how to do it, we just want somebody to do
it for us. And so in twenty twenty two, like

(35:58):
any sane mother of a new born does, I had
a second baby. I figured why not start a second business,
and so we started the second business, Communication Queens, which
is our guest podcasting agency where we do strategic matchmaking
between our clients and the podcasts that are fit to
build their brand awareness and their bottom line. And how
we do this is the Communication Queen podcast really focuses on.

(36:22):
The strategy is of how do you build a quality relationship?
How do you like? So many people like? And I've
had this just from the feedback alone from my early
readers from the book, they're like, oh my gosh, these
are successful entrepreneurs who have been the early readers, and
they're like, I forgot this marketing principle. I completely forgot,
Like I totally didn't think of like just a simple
thing like sending a thank you note after a podcast,

(36:44):
just a simple building a relations because it was so
often we get so busy and there's so many appointments
in the day and we're constantly going, going, going, that
just that simple act of presence and so of like, hey,
thank you for your time. I really appreciated it. Like
these simple basic tass build quantum leaps into your business

(37:04):
and into the possibility of what relationships you can foster
as you start to go on more and more podcasts
and so Communication Queens the podcast really focuses on communication tactics,
whether it's NLP, which neu linguistic programming sort of hypnotic
language patterns.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Read a lot of books on that, so yeah, well you're.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, I've been a master NLP coach for a while,
so like I, and it's one of the foundations of
my coaching practice and it's every as soon as you
know these principles, like you will listen to speeches given
from you know on stage to you know politicians, you're like, oh,
I see that. I see what they're doing. I see
they're chunking up right there to gain agreement. I get. Yeah,

(37:49):
it's it's amazing. It's like was you know opening your
eyes up to the matrix. It's like, it's it's phenomenal.
So I share some of those tips and practices and
how you can leverage that and how you can build
poor and how to also what podcasts have done for people,
like I think that that's a huge thing as well
as sometimes we don't recognize the power that is in

(38:11):
an interview, the power that can come from public speaking,
the power that can just come from sharing your story.
And sometimes because I've worked with a lot of speakers,
like speakers on stage, it's very different when you go
onto a podcast interview, like the calls to action are different.
And translating a skill set from one medium into a

(38:31):
different medium is it's a skill in and of itself,
and so understanding how to translate that skill set of
public speaking in a forum where everybody's got their butts
and seats where they are avidly listening to you without
you know, other distractions to listening to a podcast interview
where they're doing the dishes and then they're monitoring the
kids or their car pulling the you know, their car
pulling someone to somewhere like and then it's like, oh,

(38:55):
well here's the call to action and oh text this number,
and like, no, stop it. It's the texting. Don't tell
people on a podcast to text a number. That's that.
Save that for the stage, don't write that on podcast interview.
That's so there's certain principles that have to be translated
specifically for the podcasting medium that for those who don't

(39:15):
aren't used to it, don't think through those. So they
like a lot of times then to see this, especially
with calls to actions and freebies, where people are like, oh,
here's a freebie and it's my PDF download and I'm like,
just think of the medium. Think of how people are
consuming a podcast. They're listening. It's an auditory medium. Let
your freebie be something that's auditory. Because they're already in

(39:38):
an auditory representational system. They're going to prefer to consume
it in an auditory representational system, maybe not your PDF checklist.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
So I want to get a little bit into the
break into the fourth wall when it comes to that,
because for one of the things I do for my
one of my full time gigs that I have is
with a I produce and I manage the day to
day b operations for cannabis for you. I've talked about
it here on this program before, but that's where I
do a lot of my interviews. I do one hundreds
of interviews and I have to communicate with dozens on

(40:08):
dozens of pr companies. So someone like yourself would be
pitching one of those particular guests to be on the podcast.
And I have two podcasts that do over there, and
then I do this one here where for my own sake,
podcasters Row was really just an experiment just so I
could It was a bit of a cross promotional pattern.
I was like, Okay, I want to be able. I'm
not worried about being on other people podcasts. I've had

(40:28):
a couple of those opportunities because of doing this, But
for me, it's like I want to look at continue
to take the interviews that I'm doing, learn from other people.
But at the same time, anybody that comes in the
pitch to me for a podcast. It's also the part
where I also feel like I got to trade some
of these companies. You know they're first First of all,
these are mainstream companies working with other people out there.

(40:51):
If I gave you names, you know who they were.
But they're working in cannabis. And it's like, all right,
here's your bio, this guest and this kind of stuff,
and like none, listen, listen. In this industry, we have
current events, we have current stories. There are timeless the
timely stories that are coming on. If you're going to
pitch me, pitch me based on the fact that there's
this particular story that's ongoing. And let me make them

(41:12):
an expert. And I can make somebody be an expert
on anything like this, because for me, I want to
be able to talk about the stories. But yeah, they
don't need to hear me doing a monologue about that.
Let's bring on some way that really knows what's going on.
I can give my take without any kind of you know,
having any skin in the game, because I'm not the
industry myself. I don't even smoke, but I mean I'll
still talk about the industry because I've been commenting and

(41:34):
learning about it for ten years, so I have a
good opportunity to go and break somebody on board of
a company like yours. Bring them on, make them come
on board, and bring them up to sound as wonderful
and as area die as possible. Talk about the fact
that usually when you have to pitch particular guests what
it is about. Are they more concerned about the background?

(41:55):
Do you usually give the pitch in that sense more
generic or do you feel like if you you know
who you're pitching two, that you're going to try to
go ahead and position them a little bit better knowing
you have a rapport with whatever company you're going with
to get that guest on board. About your approach, I
want to know about that.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
It really depends on the client. I mean, we have
our ten pitch commandments that are the basic rules that
after having a podcast for five years, I've gotten heaps
of bad pitches and mostly they come from untrained, outsourced
vas unfortunately. Yeah, or someone hires someone from a site
and is like, oh, we'll pitch me for podcasts and

(42:33):
it's a generic pitch commandment Number one, just use the
freaking name, like, just put my name in number one
first and foremost. Put the host name, put the name
of the podcast in yeah, bare minimum. But beyond that,
like our pitch strategy, really it depends on the podcast,
it depends on the client. So for example, for for

(42:57):
my clients who have a very much larger social media following,
it's very easy to get them booked on It's very
easy to get them booked on bigger podcasts because they
already have the following they are. I mean, if you
have two hundred and fifty four hundred k Instagram subscribe
like followers, it's easier to get you on a podcast
that is already doing two hundred and fifty k Instagram followers,

(43:20):
et cetera to a million followers. That's a lot easier
than pitching someone who has no no fan base, no followership,
no personal brand established, but has spent their time successfully
building a quality company. And that's that's the difference. And
so if it's looking at my client's accomplishments as looking
at what can we pitch that is of value to

(43:42):
the podcaster's audience. So first and foremost we think through
the pitch as how can this be of value to
the podcaster, not just in terms of like value for
our clients or value for our agency getting our clients on.
But what does the podcaster need that has not been
discussed that or how can we frame this client as
having something valuable that they have not yet explored on

(44:05):
their show. Because the podcaster's relationship really is always first
and foremost about their audience. It's not about the guest.
And I've talked to global top one hundred podcasters and
consistently they say they could give two hoots about who
the guest is. They've turned down get like pop Top
Top Big, Big guests simply because the guest didn't show
any care or concern for their audience.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Because you're not gonna make You're not gonna make them
go ahead and fit a podcast if they don't want them.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
And also, your audience is your trust fund, like and
I equate this in the book. I said, like, imagine
like you are dating someone, and you're dating a girl
who is has a very wealthy family, like, and she's
going to introduce you to her dad, and who is
the trust fund manager? If you're going in and be like, yeah,

(44:53):
here's what you're gonna give me, here's what all the
things you're gonna do for me, here's how all the
golden nuggets I'm going to share with you. Dad's going
to be like, I don't care, who's this goof?

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Like, you know what, I'll ask you this and this
is part of where I got to do right now.
So one of the programs I do is grassroots Marketing,
and honestly it's a hodgepot is a repository of either
interviews we do in the conference scene whef we're out
and about, or they're just people that we bring on
board that are just one of the good and have
their first exposure onto the network. But one the thing
for me is that you know, we always look at
what's capital for us is how are you going to
cross promote us? You know, if if you have precutar

(45:26):
PR companies that will go ahead and promote back this episode.
He send us a link, send us embaedcode, send us
a video. We'll going to repurpose them and put it
out everywhere. Talking about the platform that you have available.
You know, was it through yourselves or to the company
you're working with to cross promote?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, I mean we cross promote. Every Friday, we send
out an email to our list of podcasters as well
as the list to our entire email list of customers
that shares the podcast that we've booked our clients on.
So congratulations, Patrick Brancy, you got booked on this huge
podcast or like, you know, just send shout out to
Patrick because he's amazing and so like just being able

(46:03):
to share because we're excited to get our clients messages
out into the world. Like that's something that's huge is
we don't work with people who like have a boring message.
We work with the revolutionaries, with disruptors, with people who
have been in the game, who have some skin in
the game, who have some life and knowledge, and it's
not just like the generic. And this is where I

(46:25):
think a lot of people get tripped up. Because I
had one person an agency, actually pitch me poorly for
a show for one of our shows, and I looked
and at my gut intuition was like, there's more to
this human. Well, the agency forgot to mention that this
woman had also spoken for the un and was a
burlesque dancer. I was like, done soul, She's on my show.

(46:48):
But it was only because I had to go on
and do my research, because I trust my intuition and
leaned in for me as an agency. I was like,
I would put that first and foremost up front, because
we did a post that went viral that said, as
a top two percent podcast for Crown Yourself, we're no
longer accepting clients or podcast guys who just want to

(47:10):
empower women, Like it's twenty twenty four. If you're not
on the empower women train, sorry you're like right, So
we now have to see that you actually have empowered
women and demonstrate how you give us results. Don't just
be a thought leader. I want you to be a
results leader, as Joe Polish says, So being able to

(47:30):
demonstrate that you have the results and the backing I mean,
rather than the desire. And I think that that's really important.
And if you don't have results yet that don't let
that discourage you. Go get good and go get some results.
Go get results by serving your community. Like one of
our amazing clients, Ashley Chamberlain, she's served three thousand hours,
I believe maybe more by now serving single mothers, teaching

(47:55):
them principles of finances to keep them from financial codependence complacency.
Like that's a super power, Like that is just her
service that she does and it's amazing, right, but bad like,
go get good and do something empowering that actually serves
and empowers others rather than saying, oh, I just want
to empower people, like with some stuff that you read

(48:17):
in a book that's not going to be inspiring.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Now, in the format of Communication Queens, I know that
she did quite a bit of monologue yourself, would you
call quickies? But then you also, is it really more
or less the clients you've brought on board, it's kind
of like they're on ramp to get them onto other podcasts?
Is that kind of what the show has been made
as a vehicle for.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
No No, I mean we started using Communication Queens as
a way of also demonstrating coaching as far as how
to tell your story because so many people don't know
how to do that, and because whether it's because of shame,
whether it's because of actually, more often I've found just
hands down it's because of shame. It's because of shame

(48:54):
and guilt, and they don't own their accomplishments. And it's
mostly women, unfortunately, but they're they don't because they've overcome
it and because they're high achievers. They gloss through the
experiences that they've gone through and if we aren't there
with you on the emotional journey, then we don't know

(49:17):
the full breadth and depth of how bad it was,
or how much you've overcome or how much you've achieved.
And that's essential for guiding and putting yourself as a
leader in the position of the guide for the audience
to want to come on board, whether it's your blog

(49:38):
or subscribe to your newsletter, or to you know, listen
to your podcast, or to whatever call to action that
you have. Your call to action, your main call to
action is your interview. And if your interview doesn't land,
if it's just like I'm listening into the background of
my life because I'm you know, want to have something
on to distract me from the dishes, then it's not
really compelling. But if you can tell a compelling story,

(50:01):
and if you can hit those emotional beats in the
story that actually allow for people to understand like this
was the challenge and you've overcome it, and you hear them,
you see them, you know them, that's game changing. That's
how you get raiving fans fantastic.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I want to make this point too, that so when
you come to about empowerment, for women and for the
if people are not doing that yet, or that there
are those there are women that you had, that you
might have met in your circle that I have not
been able to do enough to get their message out
there or to express who they really are or be
that outspoken, is basically the idea. I think of Genie Sullivan,
she's a chief investment officer at ARC few Ventures. Remember

(50:45):
talking to her. We always about social equity on the
programs over on Cannabis Radio. It's always a big thing
about that, but also in terms of social liquidy. It's
also for empowerment for women because of the fact that
if women are having to see at the table, whatever
negotiating table that is, or in a conference for whatever
it is, of a comp of some higher stature, they're
a top level executive, they have to not only be vocal,

(51:06):
but they also have to when they have a seat
at a table, they need to replace that seat that
table with someone else, another woman. And the idea of
that how much of that is incorporated to what you're
talking about with the guests here, Well.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I mean it's getting women's voices out into the world
is very important in having people have role models and
see the power of possibility. I think man or woman,
you're going to start to see people opening doors to
possibility so long as you have as so long as
you allow for the conversation. And I think that's part

(51:39):
of the power of podcasting is opening doors for deeper conversations,
opening doors to also share of those experiences. I mean,
I've coached leaders for nine years now, many of them women,
and many women have said unfortunately, it's not the men
that have held them back, it's the women. And having
been at the only woman at many a table, both

(52:01):
in screenwriting and in my e commerce business, yes, there
is a I've very rarely actually been held back by
a man. It was my own self sabotage. I've never
but and I've only had ever since starting the agency.
I male. Other agency owners have been nothing but supportive.

(52:22):
I've had several experiences with some other women who have
said pretty nasty things to me around uh, starting my
second company and like where I'm like, oh, I didn't know.
That's It's so weird to me because I don't even think,
like I'm like, wait, we're gonna we just met and
you're gonna tear me down already, Like right, like it's

(52:45):
and I think that that's where we as women have
to heal our own sister wound. When it's a generational
trauma that we have as women because years and years
ago we were all pitted against each other and had
to rat each other out as witches or else we
would die. And it's a generational trauma that we're struggling with.
And that's why I brought doctor Valerie Raine, author of

(53:08):
Patriarchy Stress Disorder, onto the Crown Yourself podcast, talking only
about the challenge with the patriarchy, but the challenge of
women now of what we have to do to heal.
And it comes down to sisterhood. It comes down to
what my friend Making Contract, who's the founder of Dames,
has created for six, seven and eight figure women. It's

(53:30):
a group, and it's a community of women who lift
each other up, who raise their hand, who say, hey,
how can I support you? Like I cannot tell you
to you the amount of women that have just come
out of the woodworks in support of my book, and
it's amazing and it's so cool to see. And I
just choose to be that vessel for women to to

(53:51):
be the example. And I think we just have to
be the example for our sisters, for our friends, for
our daughters, and for our boys. Like for me, I'm
so I was just marveling the other day as we
were watching Captain Marble that, oh my gosh, my sons
are never not gonna have the same experience that I had.
They're never gonna have the same experience that I had

(54:11):
watching Wonder Woman seeing a woman leading men into battle. Yeah, like,
and that was the first time. And I was like,
that was the first and I was in my thirties,
Like they're seven and they're seeing women kick ass. And
I'm like, that is the model for this new generation
that I'm so excited for of what we're creating, of
the new paradigm of women actually having a seat at

(54:31):
the table. But it comes from women not ripping each
other down.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
This fascinating. I'm fine eye opening that that's an issue
right now, But I mean the fact that you've been
able to go find that from all your experience, that
that needs to be much more magnified. I'm glad you're
doing that right now because I would have never thought
of that. And the thing is, I do believe the
fact that you know, when it comes to men we
want to be supportive. I think it's more about meritocracy

(54:56):
versus anybody that's gonna be performative or just fitting the
fill quota. I don't want to deal with that at all.
All I've ever done, especially when the business I'm at
for full time, well we brought on women. It's only
because a merit it's nothing else. It's like, you're going
to be performed. Well, we want you here, we welcome
you in with love, open arms. Let's go and work together.
Let's make something great. Is there? But anything else? And

(55:17):
it's like, yeah, makes total sense to me. But I
never knew it was that point where you might have
other light mighted women, or you would thinking you would
have light mindy winded that are competitive, or might hold
others down, like that's that's unfortunate. I never knew it
was like that.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, And honestly, I think it's because women had to
fight so hard to get a seat at the table
that they adopted those masculine principles and that masculine energy.
So they're in their masculine energy. The feminine energy is
very collaborative, and when we can choose to collaborate instead
of compete, that's one We're going to see a whole

(55:53):
different world.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
And I'll tell you that. There another show that I do,
Like I said, that was Diding Society Culture. It's a
raunchy name, is called The Prey to the Badgers. But
one thing I'll always say that I've learned about was
there was a guest that had on as also an entrepreneur,
and I think of the fact that she talked about
darmic feminism and the idea that feminism is as powerful
or probably more powerful, or equally as powerful as for

(56:17):
is to go have this idea of being modern and
being more masculine, that natural feminine in its own way
for all the nurturing and the beauty, the importance of
what there is, it's equally or probably more powerful than
what any man could have just inherently.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah, it's I see it. And it translated into businesses
to visionary and the integrator, like the woman is the
is the visionary, that that feminine energy is the visionary
and energy if you look at just energy and physics
in general, like it's pulled from the feminine into the masculine,
like you have to plug in an electrical socket, but

(56:57):
the energy is already there within the feminine, and so
there is a power that comes from that feminine energy,
but it comes from a space of receivership, and a
lot of times and for a lot of women, especially
those who have experienced significant forms of trauma of different sorts,
receivership is really challenging. I mean, I've struggled with my

(57:20):
own bit of it over the years, of expanding your
capacity to receive more because of all the plagiarized programming
that you're coming up against as you grow, of whether
it's not worthy enough or oh my gosh, I should

(57:40):
be especially for women, I should be grateful. I was
just a women's business event and we all were going
around saying what we're grateful for. And I'm listening to
the women saying what they're grateful for. Very few, I
would say, only about twenty percent own their own personal accomplishments.
In saying what they're grateful for, most women said said,

(58:01):
I'm grateful for this community. I'm grateful for these people.
Because as women, saying we're grateful for one thing that
we did ourselves is seen in society more often than
not as selfish, as egotistical as it can be. Perceived
as bitchy. I talk about tonality in my book as

(58:23):
far as like just even having a more assertive tone
as a woman can sometimes like men, when they're assertive
with their tone, it's conceused. It's perceived as leaders women,
it's perceived as a bitch. So it's it's understanding these
dynamics and as we start to really allow for ourselves
as women to stand in our power honoring. Yes, I'm

(58:46):
grateful for this community, yay, And I'm also really freaking
proud that I'm I did this this and this accomplishment
this year or this month like those those pieces are
not as socially celebrated when a woman has achieved an
individual act, and it's more praised when a woman is

(59:09):
celebrating the collective and the community that support her that
lifted her up rather than honoring. Yeah, I wrote that
freaking book. I'm really really proud of it. And I'm
really proud that I found an amazing supportive partner to
watch the babies for me so I could go off
and write the book. It's a yes, and it's not
an either or, But I think women have led with

(59:32):
and have been programmed to lead with the societal expectation
of that sacrificial service of let me praise the community
and the group rather than actually honoring that I did
this one thing that I'm really freaking proud of and
honoring that and then allowing the receivership of that being
celebrated amazing.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
So that's one of a good and good. But together
is where I love the message of giving out there.
I love what you're going offering it to of all
this together, and I'm amazed on how open and how
forthcoming and really just I want you to be able
to give of yourself because I feel like there's a
lot of your personal life that you're going to come

(01:00:14):
out and give. And then as you're talking about unlocking
freedom and opening yourself up to so many opportunities and
taking them all head on, like there's I feel like
you're going with out of safety net. You could just
do whatever and it doesn't make a difference at all.
So I'm amazed on how ambitious you've been and how
far you've come from that Pilates instructor to becoming now

(01:00:37):
you know, going to meeting so many people, being part
of so many stories you can share and getting back
and helping out so many people, especially women, in terms
of your coaching, in terms of what you're offering in
your services, it's incredible. So let's go to wrap things
up here real quick. Kimber the Spencer was again with
Communication in Queen's the podcast and of course yourself. So

(01:01:02):
we want to send you to both websites crownourself dot com,
Crownourself dot com, Communication Queens dot com Singular Communication Queens
dot com for both the podcasts and all the things
that go with that, and real quickly, what else did
you want to make mention of While people go to
those podcasts and anything else, they should also be following
along any predictor engagements coming up? What else can you

(01:01:23):
share with us that you want to make sure that
people know about on the way out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yes, our book, My book release is coming out on
September thirtieth on International Podcasting Day. Make Every podcast Wants
You dot com. If you go there, you can get
on the waitlist, You can get join us for our
book launch party that we're having any pitch it on
for you can jump in connect with some amazing podcasters

(01:01:47):
at that and come celebrate the book and learn how
you can make every podcast want you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Awesome, that's really wonderful. Thank you again, Kimberly for being
all with us. Really appreciate that. One quick mention of
we'll just go into the production here pre too, Paul,
that I actually had everyone podcast or sure that I
talked about the area of dharmic feminism. If you want
to fall back up on that, you're gonna find that
episode just about a giple of weeks back I had
that I had that guest on make Sure the good
check it out. But again follow with Kimberly, what great

(01:02:15):
work that you're doing right now, and thank you giving
me all this and listeners has always want to thank
you for being a part and listening to the program.
And we will talk to you next time.

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