Inside "The Motivated Mind": Behind the Scenes with Scott Lynch

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to another edition of Podcasters Joking of Podcasts here
with you, and we're just starting to have a new
season twenty twenty five because I'm finally getting a few
more guests that we come on board. And funny story
on how I got this guest today. So I just
finished an interview with him for my work on my
full time outfit at a cannabisrea dot com right among
other things, and we were just talking about one of

(00:29):
his websites. He's working in the area of cannabis. But
one thing I got to learn about my guest right
now is that he does operate a different podcast. Because
I saw his podcast set up, I was like, Wow,
this is good. The set is really good. He actually
is host of a top one hundred mental health podcast
called and Motivated Mind, which has had over five point
six million downloads, and for himself, he's also treated in

(00:52):
one point seven million dollars in equity for entrepreneurial freedom.
He's a mindset engineer, blending philosophy, psychology, and practical hacks
empower listeners all while conquering existential dread and a receding hairline.
That's funny from your website, I got that. So again
I'm here with the see the host of the Motivated
Mind podcast, Scott Lynch. Scott, thanks for being all with me.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Appreciate it, Thanks for having me. I appreciate the fact
that we were able to jump on and do this
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, when you get it opportunity, you have to go
and take it. And if you're podcasting, you know, we
want to like give a little bit of advice. You
take the chance and if you can kind of circumvent
and make the most of it.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I mean there's.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Obviously people they might want to go ahead, and you know,
if you're doing something like what we do, if you're
trying to pitch them on a product, or you take
the opportunity to try to reach them after the fact,
because this is a gateway to network and connect and
you know, build upon each other. But in podcasting, the
same thing here. If I learn about somebody that can podcast,
and oh, we got to talk to you about it.
So Scott, now, on the Motivated Mind, you emphasize the

(01:52):
importance of her finding one's mindset. But the concept, however,
of refinement suggests an existing structure and mayfield they are
starting from a place of this array.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
So talk me about the.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Approach to building an initial foundational structure, especially for those
who struggled to identify their core values and beliefs, and
how you differentiate between refining versus completely reconstructing a mindset.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
So I love this question. So I think the first
place and a segue into this is the impetus we
were talking earlier around starting this podcast was around my
best friend taking his life, and that was certainly a
situation that unfortunately I could not control. And after many
years sitting with that situation, I was able to after many,

(02:42):
many many hours with therapy, journaling, and just spending time
with myself and my thoughts focusing on the aspect that
I could control. So what could I do with the
event that had already happened that was out of my control,
that would change the trajectory of mine life and be
able to flip that quarter on its head from negativity

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to positivity. And that's where the podcast was birth. So
I think step number one with your mindset is really
taking a step back from victimhood, that I am the
victim of these things. The government is the reason I'm
in this position, The family is the reason I'm in
this position. My upbringing is the reason that I'm in

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this position. The traffic is the reason that I'm late right,
All of these micro moments out as humans, we make
thirty five thousand decisions a day. A majority of those
decisions are predicated off of people thinking that they cannot
control the outcome of their day or their situation. We're

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sure at the end of the day, we can't control
one hundred percent of it, but I can guarantee you
when you step back and you look at the things
that you can control, you can control a lot more
than you think. For example, even a emotions after a
certain period of time, and we're when we're holding on
to things, we're holding on to that emotion, a true
chemical emotion lasts no longer than I think it's four

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to seven seconds. So if you're holding on to greed, resentment, hate, anger,
that's all on you. That is all on you. If
you're sitting there every day saying woe is me, that
is all on you. And that is not to make
people feel bad. That is to bring up this idea

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that a majority of what we're engaging in, whether it
be internally or externally, is up to us the operator.
And so I think the first step is determining what
aspects of your life are you playing the victim and
assuming that you do not have control, simple simple exercise
you can do about a piece of paper, you know,

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how do you feel about where you're at currently with
your life? What's working, what's not working? And start working backwards.
Why is that thing not working? Right? Oh, I don't
make enough money? Okay? Do you enjoy your job? Are
you working on the right things? Are you passionate about
some of those things? All of these things are gateways
to that transformation of control and shifting your mindset. And

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once you do this is not something by the way
that it's a two week exercise. This is something that's
in perpetuity that you continually have to remind yourself. It's
changing the stories that you tell yourself, maybe around finances,
maybe around the things you are or not capable of
that your parents told you as a kid. Right, it's
a very holistic approach that doesn't end.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I want to unpack a few things about that. So
Number one, there is society is obviously allowing people to
be victims and to live as victims' right. It feels
like I just feel like when I see somebody and
this is not trying to diss anybody, but well, if
I see somebody at the airport and they have an
emotional therapy pit, or if you have people that you
know they'll go on TV or protesting whatever it is

(06:00):
some political thing that they're like, oh, I'm being victimized
by it, like it's personally attacking me. There's that part
I don't get where you know it's again to get
yourself off that whole thing that you know, oh, this
is everybody's attacking me. No, turn it back around on
his head. The other thing too, is that for men,
it's hard for us to go ahead and express ourselves

(06:22):
feelings overcoming what kind of trauma we've either suffered ourselves
or that we have seen others suffer from. I guess
that I had someone that to the suicide in front
of me and I actually stopped.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Them from doing it.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
But one of those things where you know, we learn
about the fact that you can't just I mean, you know,
if you try to go to a therapist, you try
to go to somebody's going to talk about it. If
you have a loved one, you know, a partner, if
it's a female and you want to try to talk
to them. You know, in a lot of cases you
really can't because first of all, they might not want
to hear it. They want you to man up, they
want you to be strong, resilient and you know, get

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past the struggle. And of course we do get that
struggle all the time, but we keep it internally. We
try not to go and go through. So part of
that I understand for me and some of my own
things that I've gone through, is that it's always been reflection,
always been I'll read a lot of it's college your books,
a lot of different areas about trying to understand why
things happen the way they did, and that's really thing.
But I also take care of as well. What I

(07:19):
want to ask you now is does this really apply
more because your man and you know, from the mindset
of from the business mindset, on a mindset entrepreneur, what
about the idea? Does this also work effectively just as
effectively for women?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh yeah, funny enough, Actually, seventy percent of my audience
is actually female. So thirty percent male seventy percent female
is pretty much the split. And I think that this
goes back to the stories we've been told Right, everything
that we do or do not do is because of

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something that we have witnessed, right, or something that we
have experienced, whether it be childhood trauma, a poor relationship,
that we were in a bad car accident. Right. Even
smaller moments where we grabbed a coffee and we said yeah,
and they're like, enjoy it, and you said you too,
and you're like, oh damn, that was so dumb to say, right, Like,

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all of those little things add up and these becomes
stories that we tell ourselves. So I think, as men,
we have told ourselves that that is what society expects
of us. To man up and listen. I don't two
things can be true at the same time, right. We
think very in this binary format black and white. If

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I have this, I can't have this, so on and
so forth. You can be a male who is confident, courageous,
that holds up your family, that does all of those
things and also expresses yourself. I am a father, I
have a two year old daughter. She is literally my world.

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But at the end of the day, I used to
be this person that thought I couldn't show emotion, express myself,
show weakness, and that ended up actually wearing down on
me severely because it created this expectation around my network
and sometimes even within my extended family, where people thought
I was this robot and treated me differently because of that.

(09:25):
And I remember, specifically towards the end of the year
a couple of years ago, hitting this wall where I
was like, I am a human being like anybody else.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
There are moments where where I feel less courageous, where
I feel weak, where I feel vulnerable, where I second
guess myself, where when I overthink. But those things can
live in existence in parallel to being a man. Just
because you make mistakes, just because you've had hardship, just

(09:54):
because you feel vulnerable, you feel sad, does not make
you I need less of a man. And so I
think this is much This is very much a story
we've been told as kids by our father figure or
someone like that, or things we've watched in movies. Right,
all of these receptors firing and absorbing all of this

(10:18):
information and thinking that's the way that we need to be.
But I think what makes a man or a woman
for that matter, more courageous and stronger than anybody else
is their ability to be vulnerable, their ability to actually
let their guard down, put down their shield and said
and say, hey, I'm in a tough spot right now.
I'm going through these things because think about it, ow

(10:41):
ballsy of a human being to put down everything and
saying someone could take a shot at me because I'm
weak right now because the shield's down, and you do
it anyway, man, that is a thousand times more powerful
than someone who goes around and struts their stuff, acting
like the nothing will bother them. That's in So I
think it's also being honest with ourselves that listen, these

(11:03):
things can coexist and if anything, it makes you more
of a man to be vulnerable, whether it be with
your wife, your significant other, whoever, and and put those
cards out there. And also it gives other men permission
to do that. And so that's something that I've done
with my podcast. I've gotten very vulnerable and open about
my parents being getting a divorce when I was young

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and how that impacted me. And it gives people permission,
Like enough with the fake bullshit of people acting like
nothing is going to affect you and hurt you. Yes,
we are men, but at the end of the day,
we're human beings too, and we have every right as
much of a right as the person who are left
and right to express those So.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
The approach of how you go ahead and talk about
this for the approach of warre, I talk about this,
I have a programmer. I also kind of engul but
I mean it's almost as much as I can without
giving out too much personal But after the show I
do called the praise and the bochers. It's really kind
of tucking cheek. But still there's a lot talking about
where I talk to you know, men and women, young
men and women about you know, trying to go ahead
and make their trick through life. One of the things

(12:08):
I think should be made mentioned it for men is
that obviously, you know, our masculinity is strong, and when
we're alone in our thoughts, alone in our struggles, it's
life changes. It also make you adapt. You're not planning
on things to happen, but just things happen as you
do for yourself. You fell in love, you have you know,
your your wife or your spouse, and then your child

(12:31):
comes into the world and you become a father. You
just see how you're gonna become a father, how you're
gonna go ahead and turn into the father for that daughter.
But it just inherently just happens because you went through
the nine months of her being in labor, seeing what
she had to go through, because you saw the sacrifice
and the struggles she had to bring that child into
the world. So from your aspect, you're like this, blessings here,

(12:55):
my beautiful wife has brought our daughter into this world,
and you now have someone that will have seen you
and for the rest of your life, the rest of
your life, you're gonna, oh, You're gonna hope to go
and do as much as you can to have that
uncddish love that you give and receive.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Mm hmmm hmm. I remember a specific moment, and I've
shared this on on my podcast, where my wife was
giving birth and she lost a lot of blood. It
was probably one of the most stressful things that I
have ever been through, certainly she's ever been through. And
I remember in the operating room, just sitting beside her

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and her being very emotional and scared, and posts fast
forward like a couple of weeks. She had said, you
were so calm, how were you not freaking out? And
I remember telling her, are you kidding me? I was
losing my shit inside. I was so nervous what this
actually meant for one Ainsley, our daughter and you. But

(13:57):
in that moment, I it wasn't about me, right, And
there are moments where you're gonna put yourself aside, But
to your point, there are gonna be moments where you
receive equally. And the way that we receive more is
by giving more. And it's an interesting irony and it
goes beyond just intimate relationships, friendships, business relationships.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I think it's always about giving, and there's so much
equilibrium found and putting your guard down, being vulnerable, being honest,
and sharing these types of moments and ultimately that's where
the strength comes comes in ironically through all of this, right,
And so I just think it's an interesting observation. It

(14:42):
goes part of that mindset aspect that we were talking
about earlier and just observing these micro moments that compound
into the character that you become.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now, one of the things we talked about earlier was
about refining versus completely reconstructing a mindset. But then in
that reconstruction of a mindset, there can be setbacks. So
a recent episode, about a month ago, as we're recording this,
you talked about you almost quit podcasting creating everything, and yep,
you offered your honest truth about what were your onnuses

(15:12):
that sort of making you a question whether you were
doing this because you generally wanted to or you felt
like you had to take me to the struggle right
now because you came through it and you said, no,
there's more to say.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Mm hmm, yeah, this was it. This is exactly what
I'm talking about through vulnerability and something I've been a
lot more intentional with with my audience. I've been podcasting
since twenty eighteen. This week I'll be at episode five
hundred and eight, so I've produced quite a bit of episodes.
One of the challenges as a YAT is it's a

(15:47):
treadmill that you hop on where once you produce one
piece of content weekly, you end up realizing that, oh wow,
I'm gonna have to do this in perpetuity, and that
can become very overwhelming. And the blessing is when people
start listening to your podcasts or start watching your videos,

(16:09):
or start start following you on social media, all of
a sudden, the stakes become so much higher and you
start to at least what happened with me, was there
were moments where I felt like I was just going
through the motions because I had to go through the motions,
or I thought I had to go through the motions. So,
for example, I dropped two episodes every week, and I've

(16:31):
been doing that since I started podcasting. I've never never
missed dropping two episodes a week. There was like a
year where I only released one, but then I switched
to two because I wanted to challenge myself and step
of my game, and even through our daughter's birth. No,
obviously I didn't miss it. I had pre recorded content,
but consistency is really important to me. But it became

(16:55):
this kind of tug a war with myself where I
felt like I wasn't delivering enough value to my audience.
I felt like I wasn't being enough to myself, and
so there was all of these things kind of pulling
me in multiple directions where I felt like I had
to find myself again as a creator and focus on

(17:19):
really what was important and find the love and the
work that I was doing. And that is a big
piece of anything that we do in life, but especially
with content creation. And that's where I decided to make
this pivot where my podcasts where I used to give
one through eight steps. Hey, here's how you hit consistency,

(17:40):
Here's how you break or start new habits, and said,
how can I take these lessons and intertwine them into
the experiences of life that I'm currently going through and
lean into storytelling, lean into authenticity, lean into giving my
audience behind the scenes of my life, to realize, like, guys,
I'm no different than anybody else. I go through struggles,

(18:02):
I go through great times, I go through low times.
Here's how I've worked through those things, and here's the
lessons that I've learned and the things that you can
extract and apply to your own life. And so I
think that will continue to happen in my life. And
it's to give myself some grace and say like, hey,
I'm only human, Like these things are gonna happen, but

(18:25):
it feels so more real. This is why you, me
and everybody else attaches to the main character of a
movie because they live vicariously through them, or they see
themselves as that person. Right, a horrible marriage or a
really bad job, and you know, coming home exhausted and depressed,
they're like, that's me, And all of a sudden, they
become a superhero or they end up starting their own

(18:48):
business and becoming this phenomenal entrepreneur. It's because we envision
ourselves as that person. And that's just the curve of life.
I mean, listen, we're all floating around the damn sun
on a big rock trying to figure it out. And
so all I do is I tell a story about
how I'm currently figuring it out.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Wow, And there's always a And I know it's a
lot of your shows are monologues that you can still
get on here and do a regular basis. And you know,
I can understand that part of just trying to go
and keep up the trend. But I'll tell you for myself,
I know that I try to And this is from
the podcast. We're going to go into the actual behind

(19:29):
the scenes podcaster kind of like mindset just on how
you produce the programs, because I know for me, I
try to do everything in real time. So like you know,
I'll hit the intro for this. I want to building this,
record it in one take, very little editing, just be
done and get it all set to go. Get some
audiograms ready, you know, get the graphic done. I have
a method of doing it all and it's funny how

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you can just like, for me right now, I can
do a lot of this on apps and just get
on my phone and be done with it. But the
other thing, too, is that you know it's having the
time to go and do it because obviously you have
a family. For me, I'm single. You know, I don't
have anything kind of holding me back from it, and like,
so my nights are like, Okay, in two hours, I'll
do the show and I'll already have something like I've

(20:10):
been researching all week. I'll know exactly what you're going
to do. Take me through what you do to plan
out an episode, because this is timeless information. You don't
necessarily have to go ahead and you can just record
a Badge's if you want to the way you have
this set. But tame me through what it is that
you do to properly go ahead and prepare for each
episode and record about it.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I love this because I'm a very organized person and
I like to plan to a certain extent. Right there's
this analysis paralysis that can happen. But I have an
episode schedule sheet, so I normally know a week in
advance what I'm going to be writing. For the next episode.
I write and record episodes because all of my episodes

(20:52):
are actually scripted, so very curated, very thought out, flushed out,
no fill of words, which helps with post production, et cetera.
And I write and record on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, so
Tuesday's and Wednesday's episode or for Thursday episode releases, and
Wednesday writing and recording is for the following Monday release,

(21:13):
and so I release an episode every Monday and Thursday
at one am Eastern. So I already have episodes done
a couple of days in advance. How I come up
or have come up with those episode ideas subjects is
really one listener feedback, whether it be a comment on Spotify,
something that triggers me, someone shoots me a DM on
social media and says, hey, I would love to listen

(21:35):
to this or that, or if you dropped an episode
on this and that, And then third and most importantly currently,
what I'm going through in my life, like what am
I talking to my wife about when we go on
a long drive for the weekend with our daughter that
I'm like, shit, I think my audience would really enjoy
or extract value out of that. Something that I can
literally talk about for half an hour. I don't for

(21:58):
a reason of just being concise and very purposeful with
the content, and then that impacts the script that I write.
And then I lean into storytelling right out of the gate.
What is this episode going to be about? How do
I grab the audience and hook them in? What are
they going to get out of it? And then I
flow through the story of that experience or that thing
that I'm currently going through, like us literally deciding to

(22:21):
sell all of our stuff and rent out our house,
ballsy move. Why did I end up doing that? What
was the impetus behind it? How did I feel about
doing that? Did I feel like I wasn't a good
provider because of some of these decisions? Right? Like all
of this stuff, I get to be an open book
with my audits. So that's really how I structure it.
There's a ton of research, a ton of writing. I've

(22:43):
now done this since twenty eighteen, like I said, over
five hundred episodes, so I can do it in a
pretty decent time frame. It normally takes me about six
hours of writing and two hours of editing in post production.
I would and I've spoke about this on the podcast
consider myself slightly joke perfectionists. I'm definitely a perfectionist, so

(23:05):
I like to edit my own stuff and I find
it therapeutic. I used to have more of a team
that would help me with a lot of this stuff,
but I have since found ways to enjoy it. And
we also stopped doing interviews as of August of last year,
and we brought on some pretty big guests like Captain
Sandy from Below Deck Mediterranean on tailc Chris Voss with

(23:30):
the book Never Split the difference, so we've had some
huge guests on. But at the end of the day,
I just felt that in doing some reflecting that unless
you're a really good interviewer, you're not going to and
you're being honest with yourself, you're probably not going to
extract anything really unique with the guest. And that was
my opinion and perspective. And I also wanted to give

(23:51):
more behind the scenes, so I decided to stop bringing
on guest and focus on purely giving my experiences on
the podcast and the audience has It's been well received.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
So a couple of things I want to unpack on there.
First of all, when it comes to what you decide
to go and talk about on the air. I don't
know since twenty eighteen if you've been with your significant other,
but has that always been something where you've bounced back
whatever you decided to go and talk about or ideas
is as somebody you basically consult with regularly, and then
you also kind of just make sure she signs off
on what you decide to talk about.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, so my wife is I think the most important
decision you can make in your life is who your
spouse is first and foremost, like beyond mindset all of
those other things, because it's going to influence everything that
you do. My wife is a saint for the fact
that she deals with my crazy, crazy, busy mind. So
that's number one. Number two. I normally will read episodes

(24:49):
or concepts of episodes to her to just get her opinion,
because I truly care about her opinion. And she also
listens to a ton of podcasts, so she has a
really good perspective on the podcast world. She primarily listens
to crime podcasts. But nonetheless, sorry, I normallyty.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Percent demographic that you have would be in a type
thing about what she's done to give you feedback.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Correct and a lot of my episodes actually involve I
would say over fifty percent of them bits with my
wife and our daughter Ainsley, because again, I think that
brings the audience closer to me, as if they're a
fly on the wall, right, Like A productive day as

(25:32):
a Newish dad was one episode that I ended up
releasing where hey, things are imperfect, right and so, But
as far as getting approval my wife and what we do,
it's it's very much an open door policy. Now, don't
get me wrong. I think there's a huge difference between
hopping on social media needing to capture every single intimate

(25:53):
moment and quite frankly, we don't do that funny enough.
As a podcaster, I'm probably one of the least active
on social media out of any podcast out there, because
I really don't enjoy social media or I have not
found a way to thoroughly enjoy it and want to
spend time posting on it. So a lot of my

(26:16):
audience is brought in or unique listeners are broad in
word of mouth. But what my wife and I do
and what I intertwine into the episode doesn't necessarily need
this like approval because she understands my personality and the
motive and the value that people are extracting out of it.
And I've actually had her on the podcast as like
a couple of little soundbites here there more recently, and

(26:38):
we've got the YouTube channel coming up to as well,
where I'm going to start introducing video as well, where
I'm going to try to pull in my wife and
my daughter into the conversations a little more as well.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I want to ask, you know, when it came to
the change of format, last question want to ask is
about how you decided to go and switch from going
guest intensive to focusing yourself. And this is one of
those areas I always talking about when it comes to
podcasting that look, some of the most popular shows out
there are guest driven. But that's part of the thing
where I'm saying to myself out well, if it's Joe Rogan,

(27:10):
or if it's you know, Connan o'briiner or whatever else
out there, it's I think it's sometimes it's more about
the guests they bring on than it is about the interviewer. Now,
don't get me wrong, there are certain people that if
they are a good interviewer, that they will draw that
should be the the onus about why people come back
to a show, is that it's not just oh, this
guest I want to hear from. No, it's because you

(27:31):
want to be able to go and have the report
that you're a good interviewer. So like that's a lost
art I think about I think about Charlie Rose, Tom Snyder,
Larry King. These people were just interviewers, relaxed, casual. But
it's like people came back to their shows every day
every night because not because of what the show was,
you know, necessarily, you know, the guests were always going

(27:53):
to be hits, but it's because what you got out
of the interviews as the host. And that the other
part is is is making that switch because I know,
for myself, I do a media show called The Broadcasters Podcast.
I did guest intensive for the first like one hundred
fifty episodes, stopped at all. Now it's and now I
had a co host for another podcast I do on wrestling,

(28:15):
stopped at all monologue only, and for me, I like
the automomy of doing that, and I felt like, you know,
my shows have performed better by doing the motologue because
I could talk, you know, forever about whatever subjects. But
the other part to do is I also like to
be able to control what's going on that transition for you,
Scott of taking the guests and saying, Okay, we're getting

(28:36):
these great people on and it's like you said yourself,
am I getting enough out of you know? I might
have this person on the show, some people exactly do
not get more out of the interview from talking to
that person. Plus it's like, are you only caring about
a guest because they're this person of this stature? Like
I can't say many times I've had podcasting or who

(28:58):
were clients who I'm producing and they're like, give me
these people dream list. I'm like, you're not even ready
for this shit. I want to tell them. But then
I'm like, okay, you're gonna do this interview and I'll
set them up, and I'm like, I'm not getting anything
out this. You're just fanboys for Dueces. Which that's fine
for some people, but like for me, I want somebody
that's gonna be able to have something good to get

(29:20):
out of the interviews because it's them and their takeaway
is you come back for you. So take me real
quick about that transition.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
So one clarifying point when we were doing interviews, we
weren't only doing interviews for I would say every ten
episodes we would do an interview, So I was still
solo recording for a majority of the episodes. But we
just decided in I think it was July or August
of last year, to stop them entirely.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
And there was actually that contributed to that reason.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Well, that that was one of them. Actually, the interviews
had less download numbers and streaming numbers and the solo episodes,
which gave me a clear indication of one or two things.
One either I wasn't a good interviewer and extracting unique
data or unique conversation out of them, or number two,
my audience just preferred to listen to me. And I

(30:15):
had many pieces of feedback from the people that I
interviewed that would say, this is literally one of the
best interviews I've done. You do your homework, you're easy
to get along with, You're charismatic. Da da da da
da da da da da. But if I was being
really honest with myself, I was like, am I though
really extracting something unique out of them? Am I? Joe Rogan?

(30:37):
You know Howard Stern asked no, and that's okay. I
wasn't sitting there being like, Hey, you're a shitty interviewer. No,
I just was like, is that really my specific calling
in relation to podcasting? And my calling is I, when
I think about it, is this is my art. And
my art necessarily isn't pen or paper or a stroke

(30:57):
of a brush. It's how I can connect words and
pull someone in to a specific story. And that can
be sometimes challenging to do with a guest on the podcast.
And so again, we had some very large guests on
our podcast that brought some of their audience along with them,
but at the end of the day, I didn't feel

(31:18):
it was aligned with where I wanted to take things.
And additionally, as you mentioned, there are just there's a
sea of podcast There are over seven million podcasts out
there right and at one point during COVID there were
more podcasts growing than freaking listeners on Spotify. So just
goes to show you the growth of this. A majority

(31:40):
of those podcasts are interviews, and so then the question becomes,
how do you how do you differentiate yourself from all
of those other podcasts. There's is really hard to do
that when you're hosting an interview unless you've got this
personality that you were talking about that people come back.
And the other thing is too, you and I coach
podcasters and individuals as well. When you start to do that,

(32:05):
you become less of the expert in your audience eyes.
And I didn't want that to happen. I wanted to
be someone who was looked at. And I use the
word expert lightly because we're learning every single day and
I'm only level thirty four in life and i have
a lot to learn. But I wanted my audience to say, Wow,
this guy knows what he's talking about. This is really interesting,

(32:25):
the things that he sees, the perspective that he has.
There's something for me to always learn based on his
experience in life and things that I'm not even thinking
about as I'm just casually going through the grocery store.
Maybe I should start looking or paying attention to these
subtle little things or these stories that I've been told.
And that's really hard to create that expert kind of
perspective when you're constantly being the one interviewing guests. And

(32:49):
so we made that hard decision to take a complete
ninety degree turn on what we were doing.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
So let's get wrout with these I unfortu we were
having a great time here, Scott, but actually wunning outs.
I got to get to oneother interview.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
But either which way that's.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Going to give you to the first of all, your
website is Scott Lynch dot comy good good, oh Scott
em Scott Mlynch dot com. And you can be found
at Motivated Scott you know on a lot of social
media platforms, and the Motivated Mind a Spotify top one
hundred mental health podcast five point six million dolloads and

(33:24):
growing and also available on Apple, all major platforms obviously
and real quickly. Uh, anything else I'm missing when it
comes to the YouTube channel, where else people shoe gounfolding.
Oh and also you have a Patreon as well.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yep, we've got a Patreon kicked off. We got a
Discord group. We've got almost five hundred members, and the
Discord group where you can just find an accountability buddy
or just talk about some of the stuff that you're
going through. But uh yeah, Motivated Scott is where you
can find me on social media and the YouTube channel
should be live in a few weeks with a lot
of video content. Putting a lot of prep behind that
so yeah, I would appreciate any uh listeners, but at

(33:57):
the end of the day, I just want to extract
value out of it. I hope that I can impact
your life in some degree.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Fantastic, So really appreciate you joining us here. Scott Lynch,
host of The Motivated My podcast, thank for being all
of us as always, and thank you listend with these
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