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in right now, centered in of course, the Trump administration,
that misbegotten administration that we're going to be talking we're
going to be talking about in a minute, but not
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you've got to listen to it and really understand the
importance of what has just happened. As you know, we
are of the opinion that the center of the world
historical struggle right now is the conflict between Ukraine and Russia,
and it's imperative that Ukraine win the war and that
the Russian Federation be vanquished. And we can add, backed
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up by Zelensky this week, that the Putin regime it
must fall. There must be regime change in Russia, the
departure of Putin, and one would hope free elections at
some early time, which they haven't really had, you know,
in Russia since maybe the nineteen nineties, if at all.
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That's the story on Russia. But we have of course
seen the tremendous importance that has been by the world,
or i should say in the world by the Israeli
Palestinian question. This is you know, this has been around
now for a long time. It's been around since the
late nineteen forties, generated many wars, and it has become
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a tremendous disturbing factor in the political life of the
Western world. So what we have is the biggest step
towards a peaceful solution, not a military solution, but a
peaceful one. And what it shows, as I hope you'll see,
is that the forces of region are not vanquished. The
forces of chaos, insanity, lunacy, slaughter and hatred do not prevail,
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at least not without a struggle. And that is the
issue right now. And as you know, our recipe for
ending the tremendous humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza is number one.
To recognize that Hamas is a fascist enemy. Hamas is
the aggressor in this war. They started the war and
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they lost the war. They've lost seventy seven percent of
their territory at least they're fighting for control of the
other twenty three percent, and they're fighting. They're kind of fighting.
As I said on the Friday Show, they're fighting in
hostile territory. Maybe it was Monday Show, but they're fighting
in hostile territory because the people who live up there,
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they don't like them because they killed some of their
own people. So they're not they're not really in friendly
territory there. But they've lost the war. When you lose
seventy seven percent of your territory, you've lost. And like
Germany and Japan in World War two, and let me
say that, we're getting reports that before they left all
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of these areas, they mined all of these areas. And
this has had the effect of slowing the Israelis down
because they had to, you know, detonate these minds. They
had to go find them and they had to detonate them.
And this has slowed them down. Is just this the niggardly,
this great restraint, this fight until the last breath. It's like,
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it's just these are religious fanatics. They're fanatics. I mean
they've lost, and like Germany, but all they want to
do is fight. They had diseased minds. And like Germany
and Japan and World War two on a much larger scale,
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if you start the war, you're the aggression and if
you lose the war, you've got to surrender. And Hamas
has lost and in one case, in the case of Hitler,
he had to be assassinated in the case of Japan,
we have to say, you know, and I'm reluctant to
give him too much credit, but we do have to say,
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we have to give credit where credit is due, and
we have to say that Emperor Hirohiro was wise enough,
although you know, it doesn't take too much wisdom. Curtis
Lamy had anybody feel free to call into to the
station with this and check my figures. But he had
something like twenty thousand bombers. He had B seventeens, he
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had B twenty four's, he had B twenty nine's, and
when they took over Okinawa, they were three hundred and
seventy five miles away from the Japanese mainland. And LeMay said,
you know, and it's true, we dropped the atomic bomb
on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We did do that. But one
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of the things that is not understood very much or
is downplayed, is the fire bombing, the terrible fire bombing
that went on when we were able to get to
Okinawa and before the last place we were at it
was like sixteen hundred miles to the Japanese mainland. The
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pilots and the crew they had to take uppers, they
had to take Benzadrin because they had to be able
to stay awake for sixteen hours, because that's how long
those missions were. And they were doing those, and when
they took Okinawa, they had a situation where they could
and they had all these bombers, and General Curtis LeMay
basically said, he said, you know, let's start running missions
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all the time. Let's start running to a day mission.
And they used incendiary bombs. And by by the time
Japan and this all goes to what I'm saying about
Emperor hero Hiedo, by the time that hero Judo finally said,
you know, we're going to surrender, there was a stunning
amount of Japanese infrastructure that had been destroyed, something like
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seventy seventy five percent, And it was because of the
incendiary bombing, which did far more damage on a far
more extended and protracted basis than the dropping of two
atomic bombs. So you know, if I look around me
and I see that seventy five percent of my country
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is destroyed, I don't know if you want to call
that wisdom. I mean, I guess you do. I guess
from a certain standpoint you want to call it wisdom.
But I don't know. That's not too smart in my opinion. Anyway,
getting back to Hamas, this is the situation with Hamas.
Hamas has lost seventy percent, seventy seven percent, just about
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the same as Japan had had destroyed by the time
of their surrender, and I think it was August nineteen
forty five. Seventy seven percent. They've lost it. And not
only that, because of their stingy and religiously fanatic culture,
religious cultish fanatic attitudes. They mined all of the buildings
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or many of them to slow down the Israeli armies
so that these things would be destroyed, and they basically
had to be destroyed. And what can you say. So anyway,
when Emperor Herohido saw that seventy five percent of his
country had been destroyed, he was wise enough to realize
that he had to overrule his military council and he
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had to tell his subjects to surrender. And his military
council didn't want to surrender because they were fanatics also,
so circumstances intervened and he was able to address his
subjects for the first time. Many of the Japanese had
never heard the emperor's voice, but it was broadcast live,
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and he told his subjects that he was going to surrender.
It became important relative speaking, I mean, you know, because
he did this, it became important to keep him as
emperor in order to affirm and confirm what he himself
had said to his subjects, and to promote social order,
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you know, and so forth. And this this is what
has to be applied in the Middle East. And that
is to say, and you know you've heard me say
this before, but I'm going to say it again. Hamas,
you have lost the war, surrender and once you surrender,
give up the hostages, because many of them they're killing.
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When the Israelis get too close, they kill them. Once
you surrender, give up your hostages. Stack your arms, we
lay down your arms. This is like, once again using
the examples of history. This is like Roberty Lee at
Appomatis right, greatest day in American history, really, certainly in
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the historically annicals and annals in the nineteenth century. Then
you of course have the strongest case to enjoy humanitarian benefits.
You may remember when General MacArthur got to Japan to
begin the operation, he found there wasn't enough food, and
he sent something back to Washington, where people were thinking
of retribution or war, guilt or revenge, and MacArthur said, look,
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forget that. The situation here is simple. Either you give
me bread for these people or you give me bullets.
Because if you don't feed people, they'll continue to rebel.
So therefore it has been it's been a very confused
situation with all kinds of people who really know better
but won't dare say it. What we need here is
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thank you to and consulting this politics by taking We're back,
all right. So we're talking about the situation with the
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Hummas and Gaza and Israel and the Palestinian people. So
and I left off, and I said, I made the
statement what we need here is not a ceasefire. A ceasefire,
I do not shirk to say to you is a
Hamus trick. A ceasefire means that they get to stay
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in political power. It means that they don't have to flee,
they don't have to stack arms, they don't have to
give up their hostages or anything else. They can stay
where they are in their bunkers, of course, in their tunnels.
And these Hamas butchers, killers, whatever they are, are terrorists.
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Certainly according to the US government and many others. They
have to be put out of business. But if you
do a ceasefire, that of course preserves them. And one
of the things we say here politics by Jake, is
that Hamas must end, they must be politically destroyed. And
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then for them too, as I said, sit there holding hostages,
some of whom die from time to time. But nevertheless,
the Hamas people say, and they are holding by the way,
may I say they are holding the Palestinian people hostage
as well. For yes, it is true. But the Homis
people will say, you know, you've got to provide us food.
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You've got to provide us on the benefits which they're
not going to give to the people. They may let
a little bit drab out. But these Hamas terrorists have
gotten rich. Senowar was rich, Hanie was rich because they
were bringing food and other things in through the tunnels,
and they were charging a surcharge or attacks to bring
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these through the tunnels. They had control of the economic
lifeline and they became rich. They became billionaires in many cases,
or millionaires or one hundred thousand. So this is a
cynical thing. These people don't care about the Palestinian people.
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The Palestinian people are fodder for them, and they are
entirely willing to deny them the basic necessities of life,
which as MacArthur said to Washington's, look, if I can't
kill these people that they're just giveing bullets because they're
going to continue to They're going to continue to rebel.
One hundred people are going to continue to rebel. And
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this goes back to this goes to the New Deal.
But we're not really talking about the New Deal, Roosevelt's
New Deal right now. But it's the same concent here.
I mean, people have got to eat. So the Hammus
people will say, if you leave this, leave them in power,
or if you're talking about the ceasefire, they will say
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to you, you've got to provide us food, which they're
really not going to give to the people. This is
a canard, this is a falseness. They're taking these food
deliveries that the United States and eight other nations tried
to provide. They're attacking the transports and they're taking the
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food to themselves, and there are in many cases hiding
it in their tunnels. They're not distributing it to the people.
Why because they want the Palestinian people to die. They
want them to suffer. They want them to be grotesquely
disfigured with famine, the effects of famine and starvation so
they can obtain their political goal. And they're entirely willing
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to let their own people suffer so that they can
do that. These people are fanatics, so they'll say, you've
got to provide us food, give us other benefits, a
little medicine, little tile and all little asp room. But
we're going to remain in a state of war. We're
going to keep killing Israelis and firing rockets and so forth.
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And look, this is a form of insanity. Like I'm
saying to you, the only justice in international affairs is
that wars, once they are started, they have to be ended.
The only mercy inherent in warfare is its quick solution.
Get it over with. Sherman said this. He's the one
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who said war as hell. There is no reforming it.
He said, the only thing that you can do is
make it as terrible as possible so that it will
end as quickly as it can. And of course we
all know because if you listen to Politics by Jake,
I tell you about the situation with Sherman's you know,
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marched through Georgia and what he did and how he
destroyed the place. Some commenters, some historians say that this
destruction was so complete, so devastating on the Confedistry that
they really didn't fully recover for about one hundred years.
I'm willing to be held to task for that, but
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the historians do say that they said that this was
so difficult and so brought upon the South that they
really didn't begin to recover for about about one hundred years.
So many states are really beginning to believe in this,
and many states are beginning to sign on on this.
So what do you do? You know what Politics by
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Jake says, the United States, because the United States is
the indispensable nation, needs to go in and take that
place over and make it a protectorate under the United States.
Because the the Palestinian people, they are two propagandised. There's
not a free chance for them to develop under normal conditions.
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They are continually oppressed, they are continually propagandized with apostate
Muslim religion, and it's just it's no good. You can't
have that. They can't the state. Secular state can't develop
normally when it's like that. And you come to me
and say, well, you know, Jay, what you're talking about.
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Apostate religion. Yes, it's a pastate. It's just like the
Christian religions. They are all apostate too, and there's no
meaning to the minds. There's no agreement even among the
Christian sects as to which one is right. It's just
it's completely ridiculous. And you have different sects of the
Muslims too. This isn't going to work. It's not going
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to work. There needs to be secularism, and you can't
have the proper development of a state when it's oppressed
by religious fanaticism. In Palestine is oppressed by religious fanaticism.
And I think the United States is the only way.
By the way, what I'm about to tell you I
do not favor, but I think it's the only way.
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The United States is the only way. It's the only way.
The United Nations not going to be able to do it.
The United States has to take that over. That is
not going to happen. So if that does not happen,
what are you going to do? And I'm not for this,
by the way, I just told you what I'm for,
But this is the next best solution. There needs to
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be a Palestinian state with stringent conditions. Of course, nobody
here is talking about giving recognition to a Palestinian state
run by Hamas. That would be pure insanity.
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That would be what these opponents of this solution are
accusing the forces of reasons of wanting to do and
what I'm referring to, by the way, and I've given
a short shrift, and I'm sorry, guys.
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There's just so much going on. That is what the
New York Declaration is about. And you're going to be
hearing more on that, and you're definitely going to be
hearing more on for me, and probably it's not being
talked about very much on the media right now, but
the media is corrupt and controlled, the mainstream media. It
has to be replaced by organizations like Politics by Jake.
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But you are going to be hearing from this, and
that's one of the things Politics by Jake. One of
the things we talk about on our patreons did we
tell you the things that the others won't. This is
one of the things. So we don't want to have
Hamas preserved. They've got to go. They want to prove
and moderation of the PLO, right, And I'm not It
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would be very It would have been very easy for
the PLO to say, oh, oh, it's October twenty eighth,
twenty twenty three and Hamas is attacking, we better attack too.
But what happened They did nothing of the kind. And
this and like I say, I don't favor this, except
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that the solution that I favor is not going to
happen in derogation to that. The most dramatic, the most conclusive,
the most apiedictic proof you're ever going to see is
what you've just seen. And I'm gonna tell it to
you now. And this ain't nothing, folks, that while the
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actual Iranian puppet states, which you've heard me call the
Three Ah Club, with Iran being the eye before the
Age or the after the Age, the Three h Club,
Hamas has Ballah and the houthis they all went to
war and what happened They got slammed. But the Palestinian
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authority Abu Abbas. I think they're located in Romala. They
did not. They continued with normal treaty obligations which they
now have. And I mean, remember, Hamas has the destruction
of Israel written into its churner. It's a genocidal government
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existing side by side. How would you like it? I mean,
what do you think you know? Here in the United States?
What if Canada had it written into its charter for
the destruction of the United States. What if Mexico had
it written into its charter that in principle it desired
and in practiced the destruction of the United States. How
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long do you think that would go on? It wouldn't
go on along at all. But Hamas has the destruction,
it's the same thing, has the destruction of Israel written
into its turner. It's they want genocide. They want to
drive them into the sea, and then when they are
in the sea, they want to kill them in the sea.
So even driving into the sea. And you know, I'm
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sorry to portray it to you in such a profound way,
but this is this is what it is, this viciousness
that comes from fanatical apostate religion, whether it's Islam, whether
it's Christianity. Sorry, but this is what they want. And
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the Palestinian authority pel O Fata, the Arafat Abu and
I don't like Arafat either. I mean, I'm saying these
things and I'm saying them with some reluctance because I
think this is the only way. I think Arafat wasn't
all that much better than Sinawar and Hama and Hanye
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Abu Abbas, He's something different the Abu Abbas side of things.
They have repudiated At did not repudiate terrorism in violence.
But they have repudiating terrorism and violence, and they did
not revert to it on October twenty third, I'm sorry,
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October twenty twenty three. They did not have recourse to it.
They did not turn back to it. Okay, all right,
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is politics by Jake and we are back. So okay,
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we're spending some time, and golly, there's just all sorts
of things that I'd like to spend time on. I
don't know if I'm going to get to them today,
but this is important. I haven't talked about this in
this kind of depth for a while, so we're we're
going to stay on this. We're talking about how the
PLO acted normally. They did not have recourse to violence,
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which they used to under Arafat, they used to. So
let me just just to get you right into this,
because I take it now that very few people are
even aware of this. I listened to the International Hour
I'm put in National Public Radio. It's called at one
a first Amendment supposedly apparently not free not when it
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comes to I don't know what. So the International Hour,
there's a domestic hour at ten am, there's an International
Hour at eleven am. So what did they talk about.
They've talked they've been dedicating more than half of their
program to the Gaza Israeli situation, more than Ukraine, which
is a distortion of the world. Nevertheless, they could have
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said something about it. They did talk about it, and
they say, are we living through a turning point in
the Israeli Palestinian situation, and most of them said no,
probably not. And they're not addressing the New York declaration
which came out earlier, and they chose not to talk
about that. So that's probably an extreme case. So we
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have a number of barriers to peace, and one of
them is the people who won't talk about these things.
But you know, getting rid of Hamas. We have a
number of barriers. But who are the no good knicks
who are blocking the path to peace? Hamas is the
most obvious, right, they're the most flamboyant. We know that
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Yaya Sinowar, the late Yaya Sinwar and his late brother
believed the Palestinian corpses were the political capital of Thomas.
Their successors still do, and that if one hundred thousand
of them became martyrs, Thomas now claimed sixty thousand. But
that's not enough. They have invested interest in inflating that number.
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And don't kid yourself, Okay, I think in reality it's
not going to turn out to be that number, but
that's really irrelevant. This is the point. They believe that
their authority, their leverage, their bargaining power, their status, everything
about it. And they've made money, they've grown rich As
I said, off of the Palestinian people. Their power depends
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on a large number of victims. Said this to you
over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Listen to me.
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I have said it over and over again. That's why
they used Palestinian civilians as human shields. It's why when
there was this peach march under the white flag in
northern Gaza, you probably didn't even hear about it. Towards
the end of March of this year, the Hamas killers
waited and they watched, and then they assassinated some of
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the leaders of that at least one that we know about.
We know and by name. So Hamas has to get
rid of that, and it's generally accepted therefore now that
if you get rid of Hamas in the context of
ending the war, the net and Yahoo government will fall.
And that's due to the extremism and the ferocity and
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the cruelty and the insane rage. Like I said, you've
heard me said that. This is why the United States
has to take it over, which I also say the
very same breath, that's not going to happen, but it
needs to happen because the Palestinians controlled by Hamas have
lost their minds, the insane rage of Israelis Smotrich and
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Ben Geverer, they have lost their minds, so okay, So
that's them, and and I say that they're both crazy,
and they are. And you just can't You can't run
the world that way. You just can't run the world
where you are so enraged that you lose your mind
and you're basically sleeping on your swords, so to speak,
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and your only purpose is to get up in the
morning and to kill your fellow man. That just it's
just not going to work, okay. So that's them. And
then probably at that point the other barrier to piece
is going to be Trump. But if Hamas is gone
net and Yahu goes to jail, then I think that
will probably convince Trump. And you know, I'm really giving
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too much credit for Trump. Of course, Trump was to
develop Gaza. He wants it to be the Mediterranean of
the East, just like back in the seventies they wanted
Lebanon to be the Mediterranean of the East as well,
and actually it was for a while. But I think
that will probably convince Trump that discretion is the better
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part of valor, and he ought to stop with this stuff.
That he's been carrying on. So okay, here's an article
from the London Daily Telegraphs by Adrian Blomfield, and he writes, well,
the headline Hamas could be forced into exile by Arab states.
So this is the kind of framework that the New
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York Declaration is about. By the way, the situation, the
concrete historical context for the New York Declaration, which remains
the center of our attention in today's broadcasts. All right,
and here's what we have. Hamas leaders could be forced
to leave Gaza after Middle Eastern States united behind a
new plan to end the twenty two month long war.
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Now when they say new plan, that's the New York Declaration.
And see, there's just this great reticin to mention it.
I think it ought to be trumpeted throughout the world.
I mean, you know, it used to be that the
wars generally ended with the Treaty of Paris. It used
to become a knowledge among history majors that if you
don't exactly know what treaty of it is the Treaty
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extend or is it the Treaty of Bologna, just guess Paris.
About half their time, you're going to be right, but
in this case it's the New York Declaration. Oh and
by the way, getting to American politics, if you have
Mandani as a mayor, you probably wouldn't even have the
UN anymore. It would become like the Shanghai Declaration or
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something like that. So you know, take that Mandani. So
in other words, getting back to this, so Hamas could
be forced to leave Gaza after Middle Eastern States united
behind a new plant and the twenty two referring to
the article now the twenty two month long war. Qatar
and Turkey are the New York Declaration. They're two of
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the group's main patrons. And pardon me, I said Katar
for those of my mother, I know you say cutter.
Pardon me, I mean no disrespect. But anyway, they're a
Qatar or a cutter. And Turkey they are prominent members
of the group that's now backing this, you know, New
York Declaration. They've thrown their weight behind a French Saudi
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peace plant. And that's the New York Declaration that sharply
increases pressure on Hamas to disarm, to surrender power, and
to accept exile. And this whole thing about exile, this
in itself is another whole can of worm. Because the
Islamic nations, the Arab nations, they don't want to accept Hamas,
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these fanatical Islamists, they don't want them. And the reason why,
I'll just say briefly, I've enumerated it on other shows.
They always try to take over the places where they
are received. And now what we've been hearing from the
Muslim Brotherhood, of course is Hamas is of course a
branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. For many it is the
(36:04):
Gaza or Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. And of
course they're different, and this is an important thing the
Muslim Brotherhood. It's not the same as these and I
don't want to say secular Arab states, but I do
want to make a distinction. The goal of the Muslim
Brotherhood is to wipe out all existing Arab states and
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to wipe out, indeed, to wipe out indeed all existing states,
including the United States, including Europe, including everything if they
can and recreate and they want to recreate the caliphate
with a caliph, which is basically an emperor, and a
worldwide emperor based on shari Alah. And you know, whether
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you like it or not. Whether you like cold Napoleon,
whether you like Anglo Saxon common law, whether you like
the US Constitution. You know, whatever it is that you
like is as far as those guys concerned, you can
forget it. It's going to be Shariah along. So if
that happened, hence, by the way, the joining of many
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of these Arab states to this idea of the New
York Declaration. So if you don't have that, get ready
to see limbs lopped off, get ready to see the
adulters is stoned again, and all these other things which
are really you know, they're not even medieval, they're pre medieval.
And of course just these this is unaccepted to large
(37:33):
parts of the Western world still, I think even in
New York City. So this is the group. So why
is it so important? Well, we have a list of backer.
You've got Katar Turkey backing this idea to get rid
of Hamas, to dump them. Why is that so important?
Because those are two patrons of Hama, of the Muslim Brotherhood.
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The Muslim Brotherhood, according to many experts, financed out of
Qatar or cut having home bases in gutter. And you
may remember about ten years ago when we had to
struggle the Kurds attempting to close the border between northern
Syria and Turkey, a lot of fighting. The whole question
about refugees flowing into Europe and so forth, well you
know that's Turky. So anyway, you know, maybe we have
(38:18):
to I don't know if I'm going to get to
this gonet for the first time to go through a
list of backers of this thing. And there's a school
of thought that says Air to Wan of Turkey is
a top leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. Others would say
that Gutter is more important. But when you put the
two of those together, you add Turkey and Gutter, that
is his Master's voice for the Muslim Brotherhood and therefore
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also for Hamas and Gaza and everywhere they exist, which
includes now a lot of the Hamas front organizations on
American campuses, and of course we've got various candidate. To me,
this is unbelievable, but this is why we have politics,
by Jake, because I know you guys don't get this.
I know you don't understand this. You don't have time
(39:00):
to get it or understand it. So you come to
listen to me on Mondays and Fridays, and I can
help explain this for you because the regular media is
not explaining it. So as I said, we've got various
candidates for public office, often municipal public office. Who knows
what they're going to do about this? I should have said,
(39:22):
it is to be expected that the mum Muslim brotherhood
in Hamas will try to wreck, torpedo, denigrate, insult, blittle,
and otherwise slander and defame the New York Declaration. They're
already busy. We've heard them. I've been listening to as
much electronic media as I could, so you know, there
weren't but the power and the money in that Muslim
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brotherhood world. Now that I Ran is essentially a pauper state.
Whatever influence they had considerable influence. But I think it's
waning now, whereas Turkey coming out of thisretty much strengthened.
And remember Turkey, you know, whatever it is you want
to call it, it's a NATO member, it's not going
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to be as bad as a whole series of other places.
So you know, honestly, it's good to see Turkey in
there and then gut her and if they say scram
Hamas scram yourself out of Gaza, then that's going to
be hard to say no. So gut Her and Turkey,
two of the group's main patrons, they have thrown their
(40:28):
weight behind the French Saudi peace Initiative, the New York Declaration,
and this sharply increases the pressure on Hamas to disarm,
to surrender power and accept is exile. So you know,
now we have the battle of the slogans. And at
this point, before I go further, I told you I
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didn't want to do this, but I just don't have
enough time and I felt like we needed to do this.
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politics by Jake, and this is politics by Jake, and
we are back. So we're talking about the New York Declaration,
and we're at the point where we have this French
(42:59):
Sudy piece in his which is the New York Declaration.
And so now you know the Muslim Brotherhood is fighting
against it, and they've already started. So we have the
battle of the slogans. And we know the Muslim Brotherhood
slogan which was not repeat not the PLO slogan at
the beginning, is BDS. Right, So it's boycott and this
(43:20):
is what's going on it. See you're hearing on American
campuses boycott, divest and sanctioned. That's the Muslim Brotherhood. That's Hamas.
When you hear that on American campuses, that's what that is,
the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas satellite front groups slogan. This is
(43:42):
not what the PLO wanted and it's not what they
want now. They want to invest in Israel. They want
to invest in their Palestinian or their our hour, I
would say, meaning the Plos Palestinian part, the West Bank
and Gaza best there and things will improve. In other words,
(44:04):
a rational development oriented and therefore comparatively honest program. Whereas
you know with Hamas, you notice there's not one milligram,
one ounce, one iota of Palestinian nationalism when it comes
to Hamas, all hate the Israelis, Destroy the Israelis. Be matyrs. Die, die, die,
(44:29):
have your photo taken as you're starving in front of
the other martyrs who have already died of starvation. So
this isn't going to work. As they said, You've got
to have You've got to build a nation where there
can be some prosperity and some longevity. This is the
whole idea which I've talked about on the show many times.
(44:50):
Great Believer are Politics by Jacob the New Deal and
the power of the middle class and the prosperity in
the middle class is the great economic engine of not
only the nation, but also the world. And this applies
as much to Palestine as it does to the United
States and anywhere else. And it is the reason why
the social democracies of Europe have become so powerful as
(45:15):
they are because they're applying this. And where you have that,
you do get prosperity, and you do get some longevity.
You know, people live longer and they're more productive. In
other words, they're not just living, but they're actually doing
things and there are some other positive results. Whereas the
Muslim brotherhoods it's fundamentalist, it's fundamentalist Islam, and that's extremist Islam.
(45:42):
The PLO is not even any religion. The pl is secular.
So anyway, we talked about the Hama slogan. Instead of
BDS bondage divestiture in sanctions, the new slogan is d S.
If you meet a watch number one, watch what you're doing,
(46:02):
of course, right, but it would be disarm, surrender exile,
Disarm surrender exile. So DC now be BBS. If you're
a friend of the Palestinian people, you tell me how
it helps to prevent investment in that part of the country,
because from the international point of view, it's part of Israel.
(46:25):
Now we're going to change that. We're on our way
to changing it. That's the idea. All right, So all right,
we're in the world of senior golf officials. You know,
we've been talking about that. We're talking about gutter obviously,
senior golf, Arabian golf, Persian golf, whatever you like call it.
You know what you want, golf officials have said, and
(46:48):
this is a rare display of regional unity. This could
isolate the movement Hamas to the point where it has
no option but to comply, disarm, surrender, go to exile,
stop the fighting, free the hostages immediately. And that quote
is from an Arab diplomat and you know, politics by Jake,
(47:11):
based on the provisas which I said earlier in the show,
we genuinely believe that there's a chance of this. Half
a loaf is better than no loaf at all. Hamas
is in a corner now. They don't have much of
a choice. They're leaders, you know, if we could call
them that, the people who started this war without thinking
for two seconds about the lives, the welfare of the children,
(47:36):
the woman, I'm sorry the women, and the food, and
even defense. They had no defense for what they knew
the Israelis were going to do. They didn't think of
that either, They're too stupid. But they had underground tunnels
for themselves, stock full of food for themselves, and the
(47:56):
poor Palestinians were up on the surface getting bombed and
they knew it would happen. That's an interesting question where
peers Morgan asked somebody more on the Homice side. Lately,
didn't you realize that this was the case? And now
quote golden opportunity unquote to deliver the final blow to
(48:18):
put Hamas out of business, not by carpet bombing on
the surface, but by getting them out of their rat
holes and sending them off somewhere else. And I said
this in the last segment. There's precedents. Black September in
nineteen seventy. Remember maybe you don't. If you don't, I'll
tell you politic by Jake my New Friday seventy a m.
(48:41):
Cheap plug. Cheap plug. We had so many Palestinians in
Jordan that they foolishly thought that they could take This
is white in the past. The Arab nations, they don't
want to have anything to do with the Palestinians because
they foolishly thought, and this is an example, they could
take over Jordan from King Hussain in those days, the
(49:04):
Arab legion the Dardanian army, and they tried a rebellion
and there was and that was Black September of nineteen
seventy and it failed. And after that, of course, they
were kicked out of the country and They've been kicked
out of a couple of other places, Tunisia, Lebanon, They've
been kicked out of some of the smaller Arab states. Kuwait.
(49:25):
They did the same thing in Kuwait, something like this.
But the main one that you want to look at
is when, like I just said, when the Palestinians moved
into Lebanon and created their operation at Beirut, the Israelis
invaded in the Plo still learning were driven out and
they went to Tunisia, which I just also said. They
went into northern Tunisian near Carthage, and there's a tavern
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there called Ivan Khaldoun, the IVN Caldun tavern, and they
used to have their meetings in there in the IVN
Caldoun tavern. So they were and that's the present. When
you lose a war, you're go into exile. And it's
not a bad rule. If it was good enough for Rapollion,
it's certainly good enough for Hamas, and it applies here
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and it must apply here. And my point is I
didn't want to spend all of the show talking about this,
not that it's not worthy, but the opportunity now arises
here with the New York with the New York Declaration,
and it's been signed by Turkey, by Arab League members,
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and like I said, this is not nothing.
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This is big.
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The European Union, Britain and others which denounced the October
seventh massacre, I said, October eighth, pardon me, October seventh,
and demands an end to Hamas rule. So look what
we have here. Look what we have here. This is
actually a kind of revolution in its own right. We
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have got and let's maybe you'll end a show on this.
Let's let's go through the list of the countries. You
have France, you have Saudi Arabia, obviously these are the
chairs of the group. Then we have Brazil, Egypt, Ireland, Jordan,
we've already mentioned Katar or cutter, pardon me, and Turkey,
(51:16):
Saudi Arabia. I think we mentioned listen, Canada, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Norway, Senegal, Spain,
the United Kingdom, Malta for sure, a smaller country in
the med But noticed the Arab League, the Arab League,
(51:39):
this is a really big deal. Last time I looked,
there were twenty two states in the Arab League. So
what have they done? They have condemned the Homus attack
of October seventh, twenty twenty three, which they have never
before done. They also condemned the Israeli war on Gaza
European Union the same because that's that's what this will
(52:01):
go through some of the direct quotes. So this is
a co production with the OIC, which is the organization
for Islamic cooperation. So Italy big deal to Pan, huge deal.
Mexico obviously quite key. Mexico, Spain, very important country, Egypt
the leading Arab state, Jordan, Ireland, Indonesia the most populous
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Islamic state, Muslim state. So let's just finish with a
daily telegraph. So when they say we really have a shot,
we have a shot. Hamas is in the corner, and
they don't have much choice. They're militarily smashed. Their main
leaders have all been killed. The casualties are enormous, and
they have a huge resistance. Their popularity. Hamas's popularity is
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below six percent as far as anyone can determine, most
of the leadership has been killed. Government barely functions. Israeli
Is control seventy percent of God's I say seventy seven percent.
I'll see the seven percent that's okay. Clan Militia's arm
by Israel are contesting much of the rest. I talked
about that earlier in the show because there's an underlying
(53:13):
clan structure there, see, And they don't like Hamas. Thomas
killed one of their guys who is involved in that
peace march down with Hamas. Hamas go home. Hamas are terrorists,
all right, And I wish we had more time I
could go on. I told you this is a big deal.
So we're going to end the show at this point,
(53:34):
and maybe I'll pick this up. So much going on,
like I always say, Oh my goodness, so much going on,
But let's end the show here and August this is
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importance of what has just happened. As you know, we
are of the opinion that the center of the world
historical struggle right now is the conflict between Ukraine and Russia,
and it's imperative that Ukraine win the war and that
the Russian Federation be vanquished. And we can add, backed
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up by Zelensky this week, that the Putin regime it
must fall. There must be regime change in Russia, the
departure of Putin, and one would hope free elections at
some early time, which they haven't really had, you know,
in Russia since maybe the nineteen nineties, if at all.
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That's the story on Russia. But we have of course
seen the tremendous importance that has been by the world,
or i should say in the world by the Israeli
Palestinian question. This is you know, this has been around
now for a long time. It's been around since the
late nineteen forties, generated many wars, and it has become
(04:15):
a tremendous disturbing factor in the political life of the
Western world. So what we have is the biggest step
towards a peaceful solution, not a military solution, but a
peaceful one. And what it shows, as I hope you'll see,
is that the forces of region are not vanquished. The
forces of chaos, insanity, lunacy, slaughter and hatred do not prevail,
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at least not without a struggle. And that is the
issue right now. And as you know, our recipe for
ending the tremendous humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza is number one.
To recognize that Hamas is a fascist enemy. Hamas is
the aggressor in this war. They started the war and
(05:05):
they lost the war. They've lost seventy seven percent of
their territory at least they're fighting for control of the
other twenty three percent, and they're fighting. They're kind of fighting.
As I said on the Friday Show, they're fighting in
hostile territory. Maybe it was Monday Show, but they're fighting
in hostile territory because the people who live up there,
(05:29):
they don't like them because they killed some of their
own people. So they're not they're not really in friendly
territory there. But they've lost the war. When you lose
seventy seven percent of your territory, you've lost. And like
Germany and Japan in World War two, and let me
say that, we're getting reports that before they left all
(05:54):
of these areas, they mined all of these areas. And
this has had the effect of slowing the Israelis down
because they had to, you know, detonate these minds. They
had to go find them and they had to detonate them.
And this has slowed them down. Is just this the niggardly,
this great restraint, this fight until the last breath. It's like,
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it's just these are religious fanatics. They're fanatics. I mean
they've lost, and like Germany, but all they want to
do is fight. They had diseased minds. And like Germany
and Japan and World War two on a much larger scale,
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if you start the war, you're the aggression and if
you lose the war, you've got to surrender. And Hamas
has lost and in one case, in the case of Hitler,
he had to be assassinated in the case of Japan,
we have to say, you know, and I'm reluctant to
give him too much credit, but we do have to say,
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we have to give credit where credit is due, and
we have to say that Emperor Hirohiro was wise enough,
although you know, it doesn't take too much wisdom. Curtis
Lamy had anybody feel free to call into to the
station with this and check my figures. But he had
something like twenty thousand bombers. He had B seventeens, he
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had B twenty four's, he had B twenty nine's, and
when they took over Okinawa, they were three hundred and
seventy five miles away from the Japanese mainland. And LeMay said,
you know, and it's true, we dropped the atomic bomb
on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We did do that. But one
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of the things that is not understood very much or
is downplayed, is the fire bombing, the terrible fire bombing
that went on when we were able to get to
Okinawa and before the last place we were at it
was like sixteen hundred miles to the Japanese mainland. The
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pilots and the crew they had to take uppers, they
had to take Benzadrin because they had to be able
to stay awake for sixteen hours, because that's how long
those missions were. And they were doing those, and when
they took Okinawa, they had a situation where they could
and they had all these bombers, and General Curtis LeMay
basically said, he said, you know, let's start running missions
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all the time. Let's start running to a day mission.
And they used incendiary bombs. And by by the time
Japan and this all goes to what I'm saying about
Emperor hero Hiedo, by the time that hero Judo finally said,
you know, we're going to surrender, there was a stunning
amount of Japanese infrastructure that had been destroyed, something like
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seventy seventy five percent, And it was because of the
incendiary bombing, which did far more damage on a far
more extended and protracted basis than the dropping of two
atomic bombs. So you know, if I look around me
and I see that seventy five percent of my country
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is destroyed, I don't know if you want to call
that wisdom. I mean, I guess you do. I guess
from a certain standpoint you want to call it wisdom.
But I don't know. That's not too smart in my opinion. Anyway,
getting back to Hamas, this is the situation with Hamas.
Hamas has lost seventy percent, seventy seven percent, just about
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the same as Japan had had destroyed by the time
of their surrender, and I think it was August nineteen
forty five. Seventy seven percent. They've lost it. And not
only that, because of their stingy and religiously fanatic culture,
religious cultish fanatic attitudes. They mined all of the buildings
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or many of them to slow down the Israeli armies
so that these things would be destroyed, and they basically
had to be destroyed. And what can you say. So anyway,
when Emperor Herohido saw that seventy five percent of his
country had been destroyed, he was wise enough to realize
that he had to overrule his military council and he
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had to tell his subjects to surrender. And his military
council didn't want to surrender because they were fanatics also,
so circumstances intervened and he was able to address his
subjects for the first time. Many of the Japanese had
never heard the emperor's voice, but it was broadcast live,
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and he told his subjects that he was going to surrender.
It became important relative speaking, I mean, you know, because
he did this, it became important to keep him as
emperor in order to affirm and confirm what he himself
had said to his subjects, and to promote social order,
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you know, and so forth. And this this is what
has to be applied in the Middle East. And that
is to say, and you know you've heard me say
this before, but I'm going to say it again. Hamas,
you have lost the war, surrender and once you surrender,
give up the hostages, because many of them they're killing.
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When the Israelis get too close, they kill them. Once
you surrender, give up your hostages. Stack your arms, we
lay down your arms. This is like, once again using
the examples of history. This is like Roberty Lee at
Appomatis right, greatest day in American history, really, certainly in
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the historically annicals and annals in the nineteenth century. Then
you of course have the strongest case to enjoy humanitarian benefits.
You may remember when General MacArthur got to Japan to
begin the operation, he found there wasn't enough food, and
he sent something back to Washington, where people were thinking
of retribution or war, guilt or revenge, and MacArthur said, look,
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forget that. The situation here is simple. Either you give
me bread for these people or you give me bullets.
Because if you don't feed people, they'll continue to rebel.
So therefore it has been it's been a very confused
situation with all kinds of people who really know better
but won't dare say it. What we need here is
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thank you to and consulting this politics by taking We're back,
all right. So we're talking about the situation with the
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Hummas and Gaza and Israel and the Palestinian people. So
and I left off, and I said, I made the
statement what we need here is not a ceasefire. A ceasefire,
I do not shirk to say to you is a
Hamus trick. A ceasefire means that they get to stay
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in political power. It means that they don't have to flee,
they don't have to stack arms, they don't have to
give up their hostages or anything else. They can stay
where they are in their bunkers, of course, in their tunnels.
And these Hamas butchers, killers, whatever they are, are terrorists.
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Certainly according to the US government and many others. They
have to be put out of business. But if you
do a ceasefire, that of course preserves them. And one
of the things we say here politics by Jake, is
that Hamas must end, they must be politically destroyed. And
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then for them too, as I said, sit there holding hostages,
some of whom die from time to time. But nevertheless,
the Hamas people say, and they are holding by the way,
may I say they are holding the Palestinian people hostage
as well. For yes, it is true. But the Homis
people will say, you know, you've got to provide us food.
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You've got to provide us on the benefits which they're
not going to give to the people. They may let
a little bit drab out. But these Hamas terrorists have
gotten rich. Senowar was rich, Hanie was rich because they
were bringing food and other things in through the tunnels,
and they were charging a surcharge or attacks to bring
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these through the tunnels. They had control of the economic
lifeline and they became rich. They became billionaires in many cases,
or millionaires or one hundred thousand. So this is a
cynical thing. These people don't care about the Palestinian people.
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The Palestinian people are fodder for them, and they are
entirely willing to deny them the basic necessities of life,
which as MacArthur said to Washington's, look, if I can't
kill these people that they're just giveing bullets because they're
going to continue to They're going to continue to rebel.
One hundred people are going to continue to rebel. And
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this goes back to this goes to the New Deal.
But we're not really talking about the New Deal, Roosevelt's
New Deal right now. But it's the same concent here.
I mean, people have got to eat. So the Hammus
people will say, if you leave this, leave them in power,
or if you're talking about the ceasefire, they will say
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to you, you've got to provide us food, which they're
really not going to give to the people. This is
a canard, this is a falseness. They're taking these food
deliveries that the United States and eight other nations tried
to provide. They're attacking the transports and they're taking the
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food to themselves, and there are in many cases hiding
it in their tunnels. They're not distributing it to the people.
Why because they want the Palestinian people to die. They
want them to suffer. They want them to be grotesquely
disfigured with famine, the effects of famine and starvation so
they can obtain their political goal. And they're entirely willing
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to let their own people suffer so that they can
do that. These people are fanatics, so they'll say, you've
got to provide us food, give us other benefits, a
little medicine, little tile and all little asp room. But
we're going to remain in a state of war. We're
going to keep killing Israelis and firing rockets and so forth.
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And look, this is a form of insanity. Like I'm
saying to you, the only justice in international affairs is
that wars, once they are started, they have to be ended.
The only mercy inherent in warfare is its quick solution.
Get it over with. Sherman said this. He's the one
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who said war as hell. There is no reforming it.
He said, the only thing that you can do is
make it as terrible as possible so that it will
end as quickly as it can. And of course we
all know because if you listen to Politics by Jake,
I tell you about the situation with Sherman's you know,
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marched through Georgia and what he did and how he
destroyed the place. Some commenters, some historians say that this
destruction was so complete, so devastating on the Confedistry that
they really didn't fully recover for about one hundred years.
I'm willing to be held to task for that, but
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the historians do say that they said that this was
so difficult and so brought upon the South that they
really didn't begin to recover for about about one hundred years.
So many states are really beginning to believe in this,
and many states are beginning to sign on on this.
So what do you do? You know what Politics by
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Jake says, the United States, because the United States is
the indispensable nation, needs to go in and take that
place over and make it a protectorate under the United States.
Because the the Palestinian people, they are two propagandised. There's
not a free chance for them to develop under normal conditions.
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They are continually oppressed, they are continually propagandized with apostate
Muslim religion, and it's just it's no good. You can't
have that. They can't the state. Secular state can't develop
normally when it's like that. And you come to me
and say, well, you know, Jay, what you're talking about.
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Apostate religion. Yes, it's a pastate. It's just like the
Christian religions. They are all apostate too, and there's no
meaning to the minds. There's no agreement even among the
Christian sects as to which one is right. It's just
it's completely ridiculous. And you have different sects of the
Muslims too. This isn't going to work. It's not going
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to work. There needs to be secularism, and you can't
have the proper development of a state when it's oppressed
by religious fanaticism. In Palestine is oppressed by religious fanaticism.
And I think the United States is the only way.
By the way, what I'm about to tell you I
do not favor, but I think it's the only way.
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The United States is the only way. It's the only way.
The United Nations not going to be able to do it.
The United States has to take that over. That is
not going to happen. So if that does not happen,
what are you going to do? And I'm not for this,
by the way, I just told you what I'm for,
But this is the next best solution. There needs to
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be a Palestinian state with stringent conditions. Of course, nobody
here is talking about giving recognition to a Palestinian state
run by Hamas. That would be pure insanity.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
That would be what these opponents of this solution are
accusing the forces of reasons of wanting to do and
what I'm referring to, by the way, and I've given
a short shrift, and I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
There's just so much going on. That is what the
New York Declaration is about. And you're going to be
hearing more on that, and you're definitely going to be
hearing more on for me, and probably it's not being
talked about very much on the media right now, but
the media is corrupt and controlled, the mainstream media. It
has to be replaced by organizations like Politics by Jake.
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But you are going to be hearing from this, and
that's one of the things Politics by Jake. One of
the things we talk about on our patreons did we
tell you the things that the others won't. This is
one of the things. So we don't want to have
Hamas preserved. They've got to go. They want to prove
and moderation of the PLO, right, And I'm not It
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would be very It would have been very easy for
the PLO to say, oh, oh, it's October twenty eighth,
twenty twenty three and Hamas is attacking, we better attack too.
But what happened They did nothing of the kind. And
this and like I say, I don't favor this, except
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that the solution that I favor is not going to
happen in derogation to that. The most dramatic, the most conclusive,
the most apiedictic proof you're ever going to see is
what you've just seen. And I'm gonna tell it to
you now. And this ain't nothing, folks, that while the
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actual Iranian puppet states, which you've heard me call the
Three Ah Club, with Iran being the eye before the
Age or the after the Age, the Three h Club,
Hamas has Ballah and the houthis they all went to
war and what happened They got slammed. But the Palestinian
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authority Abu Abbas. I think they're located in Romala. They
did not. They continued with normal treaty obligations which they
now have. And I mean, remember, Hamas has the destruction
of Israel written into its churner. It's a genocidal government
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existing side by side. How would you like it? I mean,
what do you think you know? Here in the United States?
What if Canada had it written into its charter for
the destruction of the United States. What if Mexico had
it written into its charter that in principle it desired
and in practiced the destruction of the United States. How
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long do you think that would go on? It wouldn't
go on along at all. But Hamas has the destruction,
it's the same thing, has the destruction of Israel written
into its turner. It's they want genocide. They want to
drive them into the sea, and then when they are
in the sea, they want to kill them in the sea.
So even driving into the sea. And you know, I'm
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sorry to portray it to you in such a profound way,
but this is this is what it is, this viciousness
that comes from fanatical apostate religion, whether it's Islam, whether
it's Christianity. Sorry, but this is what they want. And
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the Palestinian authority pel O Fata, the Arafat Abu and
I don't like Arafat either. I mean, I'm saying these
things and I'm saying them with some reluctance because I
think this is the only way. I think Arafat wasn't
all that much better than Sinawar and Hama and Hanye
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Abu Abbas, He's something different the Abu Abbas side of things.
They have repudiated At did not repudiate terrorism in violence.
But they have repudiating terrorism and violence, and they did
not revert to it on October twenty third, I'm sorry,
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October twenty twenty three. They did not have recourse to it.
They did not turn back to it. Okay, all right,
So at this point, let's take another break, have a
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is politics by Jake and we are back. So okay,
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we're spending some time, and golly, there's just all sorts
of things that I'd like to spend time on. I
don't know if I'm going to get to them today,
but this is important. I haven't talked about this in
this kind of depth for a while, so we're we're
going to stay on this. We're talking about how the
PLO acted normally. They did not have recourse to violence,
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which they used to under Arafat, they used to. So
let me just just to get you right into this,
because I take it now that very few people are
even aware of this. I listened to the International Hour
I'm put in National Public Radio. It's called at one
a first Amendment supposedly apparently not free not when it
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comes to I don't know what. So the International Hour,
there's a domestic hour at ten am, there's an International
Hour at eleven am. So what did they talk about.
They've talked they've been dedicating more than half of their
program to the Gaza Israeli situation, more than Ukraine, which
is a distortion of the world. Nevertheless, they could have
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said something about it. They did talk about it, and
they say, are we living through a turning point in
the Israeli Palestinian situation, and most of them said no,
probably not. And they're not addressing the New York declaration
which came out earlier, and they chose not to talk
about that. So that's probably an extreme case. So we
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have a number of barriers to peace, and one of
them is the people who won't talk about these things.
But you know, getting rid of Hamas. We have a
number of barriers. But who are the no good knicks
who are blocking the path to peace? Hamas is the
most obvious, right, they're the most flamboyant. We know that
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Yaya Sinowar, the late Yaya Sinwar and his late brother
believed the Palestinian corpses were the political capital of Thomas.
Their successors still do, and that if one hundred thousand
of them became martyrs, Thomas now claimed sixty thousand. But
that's not enough. They have invested interest in inflating that number.
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And don't kid yourself, Okay, I think in reality it's
not going to turn out to be that number, but
that's really irrelevant. This is the point. They believe that
their authority, their leverage, their bargaining power, their status, everything
about it. And they've made money, they've grown rich As
I said, off of the Palestinian people. Their power depends
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on a large number of victims. Said this to you
over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Listen to me.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I have said it over and over again. That's why
they used Palestinian civilians as human shields. It's why when
there was this peach march under the white flag in
northern Gaza, you probably didn't even hear about it. Towards
the end of March of this year, the Hamas killers
waited and they watched, and then they assassinated some of
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the leaders of that at least one that we know about.
We know and by name. So Hamas has to get
rid of that, and it's generally accepted therefore now that
if you get rid of Hamas in the context of
ending the war, the net and Yahoo government will fall.
And that's due to the extremism and the ferocity and
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the cruelty and the insane rage. Like I said, you've
heard me said that. This is why the United States
has to take it over, which I also say the
very same breath, that's not going to happen, but it
needs to happen because the Palestinians controlled by Hamas have
lost their minds, the insane rage of Israelis Smotrich and
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Ben Geverer, they have lost their minds, so okay, So
that's them, and and I say that they're both crazy,
and they are. And you just can't You can't run
the world that way. You just can't run the world
where you are so enraged that you lose your mind
and you're basically sleeping on your swords, so to speak,
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and your only purpose is to get up in the
morning and to kill your fellow man. That just it's
just not going to work, okay. So that's them. And
then probably at that point the other barrier to piece
is going to be Trump. But if Hamas is gone
net and Yahu goes to jail, then I think that
will probably convince Trump. And you know, I'm really giving
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too much credit for Trump. Of course, Trump was to
develop Gaza. He wants it to be the Mediterranean of
the East, just like back in the seventies they wanted
Lebanon to be the Mediterranean of the East as well,
and actually it was for a while. But I think
that will probably convince Trump that discretion is the better
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part of valor, and he ought to stop with this stuff.
That he's been carrying on. So okay, here's an article
from the London Daily Telegraphs by Adrian Blomfield, and he writes, well,
the headline Hamas could be forced into exile by Arab states.
So this is the kind of framework that the New
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York Declaration is about. By the way, the situation, the
concrete historical context for the New York Declaration, which remains
the center of our attention in today's broadcasts. All right,
and here's what we have. Hamas leaders could be forced
to leave Gaza after Middle Eastern States united behind a
new plan to end the twenty two month long war.
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Now when they say new plan, that's the New York Declaration.
And see, there's just this great reticin to mention it.
I think it ought to be trumpeted throughout the world.
I mean, you know, it used to be that the
wars generally ended with the Treaty of Paris. It used
to become a knowledge among history majors that if you
don't exactly know what treaty of it is the Treaty
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extend or is it the Treaty of Bologna, just guess Paris.
About half their time, you're going to be right, but
in this case it's the New York Declaration. Oh and
by the way, getting to American politics, if you have
Mandani as a mayor, you probably wouldn't even have the
UN anymore. It would become like the Shanghai Declaration or
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something like that. So you know, take that Mandani. So
in other words, getting back to this, so Hamas could
be forced to leave Gaza after Middle Eastern States united
behind a new plant and the twenty two referring to
the article now the twenty two month long war. Qatar
and Turkey are the New York Declaration. They're two of
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the group's main patrons. And pardon me, I said Katar
for those of my mother, I know you say cutter.
Pardon me, I mean no disrespect. But anyway, they're a
Qatar or a cutter. And Turkey they are prominent members
of the group that's now backing this, you know, New
York Declaration. They've thrown their weight behind a French Saudi
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peace plant. And that's the New York Declaration that sharply
increases pressure on Hamas to disarm, to surrender power, and
to accept exile. And this whole thing about exile, this
in itself is another whole can of worm. Because the
Islamic nations, the Arab nations, they don't want to accept Hamas,
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these fanatical Islamists, they don't want them. And the reason why,
I'll just say briefly, I've enumerated it on other shows.
They always try to take over the places where they
are received. And now what we've been hearing from the
Muslim Brotherhood, of course is Hamas is of course a
branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. For many it is the
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Gaza or Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. And of
course they're different, and this is an important thing the
Muslim Brotherhood. It's not the same as these and I
don't want to say secular Arab states, but I do
want to make a distinction. The goal of the Muslim
Brotherhood is to wipe out all existing Arab states and
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to wipe out, indeed, to wipe out indeed all existing states,
including the United States, including Europe, including everything if they
can and recreate and they want to recreate the caliphate
with a caliph, which is basically an emperor, and a
worldwide emperor based on shari Alah. And you know, whether
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you like it or not. Whether you like cold Napoleon,
whether you like Anglo Saxon common law, whether you like
the US Constitution. You know, whatever it is that you
like is as far as those guys concerned, you can
forget it. It's going to be Shariah along. So if
that happened, hence, by the way, the joining of many
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of these Arab states to this idea of the New
York Declaration. So if you don't have that, get ready
to see limbs lopped off, get ready to see the
adulters is stoned again, and all these other things which
are really you know, they're not even medieval, they're pre medieval.
And of course just these this is unaccepted to large
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parts of the Western world still, I think even in
New York City. So this is the group. So why
is it so important? Well, we have a list of backer.
You've got Katar Turkey backing this idea to get rid
of Hamas, to dump them. Why is that so important?
Because those are two patrons of Hama, of the Muslim Brotherhood.
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The Muslim Brotherhood, according to many experts, financed out of
Qatar or cut having home bases in gutter. And you
may remember about ten years ago when we had to
struggle the Kurds attempting to close the border between northern
Syria and Turkey, a lot of fighting. The whole question
about refugees flowing into Europe and so forth, well you
know that's Turky. So anyway, you know, maybe we have
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to I don't know if I'm going to get to
this gonet for the first time to go through a
list of backers of this thing. And there's a school
of thought that says Air to Wan of Turkey is
a top leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. Others would say
that Gutter is more important. But when you put the
two of those together, you add Turkey and Gutter, that
is his Master's voice for the Muslim Brotherhood and therefore
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also for Hamas and Gaza and everywhere they exist, which
includes now a lot of the Hamas front organizations on
American campuses, and of course we've got various candidate. To me,
this is unbelievable, but this is why we have politics,
by Jake, because I know you guys don't get this.
I know you don't understand this. You don't have time
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to get it or understand it. So you come to
listen to me on Mondays and Fridays, and I can
help explain this for you because the regular media is
not explaining it. So as I said, we've got various
candidates for public office, often municipal public office. Who knows
what they're going to do about this? I should have said,
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it is to be expected that the mum Muslim brotherhood
in Hamas will try to wreck, torpedo, denigrate, insult, blittle,
and otherwise slander and defame the New York Declaration. They're
already busy. We've heard them. I've been listening to as
much electronic media as I could, so you know, there
weren't but the power and the money in that Muslim
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brotherhood world. Now that I Ran is essentially a pauper state.
Whatever influence they had considerable influence. But I think it's
waning now, whereas Turkey coming out of thisretty much strengthened.
And remember Turkey, you know, whatever it is you want
to call it, it's a NATO member, it's not going
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to be as bad as a whole series of other places.
So you know, honestly, it's good to see Turkey in
there and then gut her and if they say scram
Hamas scram yourself out of Gaza, then that's going to
be hard to say no. So gut Her and Turkey,
two of the group's main patrons, they have thrown their
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weight behind the French Saudi peace Initiative, the New York Declaration,
and this sharply increases the pressure on Hamas to disarm,
to surrender power and accept is exile. So you know,
now we have the battle of the slogans. And at
this point, before I go further, I told you I
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didn't want to do this, but I just don't have
enough time and I felt like we needed to do this.
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we are back. So we're talking about the New York Declaration,
and we're at the point where we have this French
(42:59):
Sudy piece in his which is the New York Declaration.
And so now you know the Muslim Brotherhood is fighting
against it, and they've already started. So we have the
battle of the slogans. And we know the Muslim Brotherhood
slogan which was not repeat not the PLO slogan at
the beginning, is BDS. Right, So it's boycott and this
(43:20):
is what's going on it. See you're hearing on American
campuses boycott, divest and sanctioned. That's the Muslim Brotherhood. That's Hamas.
When you hear that on American campuses, that's what that is,
the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas satellite front groups slogan. This is
(43:42):
not what the PLO wanted and it's not what they
want now. They want to invest in Israel. They want
to invest in their Palestinian or their our hour, I
would say, meaning the Plos Palestinian part, the West Bank
and Gaza best there and things will improve. In other words,
(44:04):
a rational development oriented and therefore comparatively honest program. Whereas
you know with Hamas, you notice there's not one milligram,
one ounce, one iota of Palestinian nationalism when it comes
to Hamas, all hate the Israelis, Destroy the Israelis. Be matyrs. Die, die, die,
(44:29):
have your photo taken as you're starving in front of
the other martyrs who have already died of starvation. So
this isn't going to work. As they said, You've got
to have You've got to build a nation where there
can be some prosperity and some longevity. This is the
whole idea which I've talked about on the show many times.
(44:50):
Great Believer are Politics by Jacob the New Deal and
the power of the middle class and the prosperity in
the middle class is the great economic engine of not
only the nation, but also the world. And this applies
as much to Palestine as it does to the United
States and anywhere else. And it is the reason why
the social democracies of Europe have become so powerful as
(45:15):
they are because they're applying this. And where you have that,
you do get prosperity, and you do get some longevity.
You know, people live longer and they're more productive. In
other words, they're not just living, but they're actually doing
things and there are some other positive results. Whereas the
Muslim brotherhoods it's fundamentalist, it's fundamentalist Islam, and that's extremist Islam.
(45:42):
The PLO is not even any religion. The pl is secular.
So anyway, we talked about the Hama slogan. Instead of
BDS bondage divestiture in sanctions, the new slogan is d S.
If you meet a watch number one, watch what you're doing,
(46:02):
of course, right, but it would be disarm, surrender exile,
Disarm surrender exile. So DC now be BBS. If you're
a friend of the Palestinian people, you tell me how
it helps to prevent investment in that part of the country,
because from the international point of view, it's part of Israel.
(46:25):
Now we're going to change that. We're on our way
to changing it. That's the idea. All right, So all right,
we're in the world of senior golf officials. You know,
we've been talking about that. We're talking about gutter obviously,
senior golf, Arabian golf, Persian golf, whatever you like call it.
You know what you want, golf officials have said, and
(46:48):
this is a rare display of regional unity. This could
isolate the movement Hamas to the point where it has
no option but to comply, disarm, surrender, go to exile,
stop the fighting, free the hostages immediately. And that quote
is from an Arab diplomat and you know, politics by Jake,
(47:11):
based on the provisas which I said earlier in the show,
we genuinely believe that there's a chance of this. Half
a loaf is better than no loaf at all. Hamas
is in a corner now. They don't have much of
a choice. They're leaders, you know, if we could call
them that, the people who started this war without thinking
for two seconds about the lives, the welfare of the children,
(47:36):
the woman, I'm sorry the women, and the food, and
even defense. They had no defense for what they knew
the Israelis were going to do. They didn't think of
that either, They're too stupid. But they had underground tunnels
for themselves, stock full of food for themselves, and the
(47:56):
poor Palestinians were up on the surface getting bombed and
they knew it would happen. That's an interesting question where
peers Morgan asked somebody more on the Homice side. Lately,
didn't you realize that this was the case? And now
quote golden opportunity unquote to deliver the final blow to
(48:18):
put Hamas out of business, not by carpet bombing on
the surface, but by getting them out of their rat
holes and sending them off somewhere else. And I said
this in the last segment. There's precedents. Black September in
nineteen seventy. Remember maybe you don't. If you don't, I'll
tell you politic by Jake my New Friday seventy a m.
(48:41):
Cheap plug. Cheap plug. We had so many Palestinians in
Jordan that they foolishly thought that they could take This
is white in the past. The Arab nations, they don't
want to have anything to do with the Palestinians because
they foolishly thought, and this is an example, they could
take over Jordan from King Hussain in those days, the
(49:04):
Arab legion the Dardanian army, and they tried a rebellion
and there was and that was Black September of nineteen
seventy and it failed. And after that, of course, they
were kicked out of the country and They've been kicked
out of a couple of other places, Tunisia, Lebanon, They've
been kicked out of some of the smaller Arab states. Kuwait.
(49:25):
They did the same thing in Kuwait, something like this.
But the main one that you want to look at
is when, like I just said, when the Palestinians moved
into Lebanon and created their operation at Beirut, the Israelis
invaded in the Plo still learning were driven out and
they went to Tunisia, which I just also said. They
went into northern Tunisian near Carthage, and there's a tavern
(49:48):
there called Ivan Khaldoun, the IVN Caldun tavern, and they
used to have their meetings in there in the IVN
Caldoun tavern. So they were and that's the present. When
you lose a war, you're go into exile. And it's
not a bad rule. If it was good enough for Rapollion,
it's certainly good enough for Hamas, and it applies here
(50:09):
and it must apply here. And my point is I
didn't want to spend all of the show talking about this,
not that it's not worthy, but the opportunity now arises
here with the New York with the New York Declaration,
and it's been signed by Turkey, by Arab League members,
(50:32):
and like I said, this is not nothing.
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This is big.
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The European Union, Britain and others which denounced the October
seventh massacre, I said, October eighth, pardon me, October seventh,
and demands an end to Hamas rule. So look what
we have here. Look what we have here. This is
actually a kind of revolution in its own right. We
(50:55):
have got and let's maybe you'll end a show on this.
Let's let's go through the list of the countries. You
have France, you have Saudi Arabia, obviously these are the
chairs of the group. Then we have Brazil, Egypt, Ireland, Jordan,
we've already mentioned Katar or cutter, pardon me, and Turkey,
(51:16):
Saudi Arabia. I think we mentioned listen, Canada, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Norway, Senegal, Spain,
the United Kingdom, Malta for sure, a smaller country in
the med But noticed the Arab League, the Arab League,
(51:39):
this is a really big deal. Last time I looked,
there were twenty two states in the Arab League. So
what have they done? They have condemned the Homus attack
of October seventh, twenty twenty three, which they have never
before done. They also condemned the Israeli war on Gaza
European Union the same because that's that's what this will
(52:01):
go through some of the direct quotes. So this is
a co production with the OIC, which is the organization
for Islamic cooperation. So Italy big deal to Pan, huge deal.
Mexico obviously quite key. Mexico, Spain, very important country, Egypt
the leading Arab state, Jordan, Ireland, Indonesia the most populous
(52:26):
Islamic state, Muslim state. So let's just finish with a
daily telegraph. So when they say we really have a shot,
we have a shot. Hamas is in the corner, and
they don't have much choice. They're militarily smashed. Their main
leaders have all been killed. The casualties are enormous, and
they have a huge resistance. Their popularity. Hamas's popularity is
(52:51):
below six percent as far as anyone can determine, most
of the leadership has been killed. Government barely functions. Israeli
Is control seventy percent of God's I say seventy seven percent.
I'll see the seven percent that's okay. Clan Militia's arm
by Israel are contesting much of the rest. I talked
about that earlier in the show because there's an underlying
(53:13):
clan structure there, see, And they don't like Hamas. Thomas
killed one of their guys who is involved in that
peace march down with Hamas. Hamas go home. Hamas are terrorists,
all right, And I wish we had more time I
could go on. I told you this is a big deal.
So we're going to end the show at this point,
(53:34):
and maybe I'll pick this up. So much going on,
like I always say, Oh my goodness, so much going on,
But let's end the show here and August this is
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