10-14-25 Hour 3: Lets Football Go

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
You've got a bunch of quick hitters today about the Broncos,
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Hang on there, Broncos quick hitter question, Big question of

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the day, What is your confidence level in bow Nix
and what needs to happen for you to feel good
about bow this Sunday. Looking at the numbers right now
off the bat, your belief in the defense is strong.

(01:00):
In fact, I'm looking at some of the comparable numbers
between the Broncos defense and the Giants defense. It's clear
that Broncos have the best defense in the league. The
only category that they're a little weak in right now
is takeaways. That's it, and it's why the Broncos are
at minus three and giveaway takeaway, which is really weird

(01:22):
that a team that brings so much pressure is kind
of soft in this department with only four takeaways, three
fumble recoveries and can you believe it, only one interception,
which is amazing to me that a team that has
thirty sacks only has one pick. So their pressure rate,
their sacks, they're just everything with their defense would tell

(01:43):
you they're gonna force teams into mistakes. So I think
that damn is going to break at some point, by
the way and the Broncos and I don't know when
it's going to happen, but when it does happen, things
are gonna get a whole heck of a lot easier
for Bo. And I'm looking at his Giants team and
I'm like, all right, man, I'm not taking them lightly,

(02:04):
without a doubt, I'm not taking them lightly. But young
quarterback Scott, listen, they could be hit or miss. And
I love the fraternity house delta house feeling of the
Giants and Jackson Dart, but it would not surprise me
if they have a day defensively where they take the
ball away. Where are you with Bo right now? And
what do you what do you need to see on Sunday?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Ummm, I don't know. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I still
like just have Brock cured on. I still don't think
his footwork has been great. Tyler was talking about it
in training camp, and I think he's had a regression
heere as far as his footwork. Uh, but he got
better the second half of last season. Maybe he's the
second half quarterback. I don't know. I I And another thing,

(02:49):
when Broclet was talking about just really hit me. He's
talking about all these guys, Darnold and Seattle, all these
guys that come back learning different things. Find what you
do well, stick it to and run run, run those
seven or eight things that you do well, and just
keep running them and run and run them. That's not Champagne.
We even talked about that, either in the preseason or

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the first couple of weeks. It's like, let's get everything
out in our playbook in the first three drives punt
punt punt or field goal punt, punt punt, instead of
going here's what we do well. You asked Brock about
moving Bow a little bit on the move, keeping him
going the naked boot's not working, but rolling the pocket mite,
you know, if you want to get him outside the

(03:31):
tackle box. I just feel that he hasn't he hasn't
helped his quarterback. It's I think they need to establish
something solid and I think that would help Bow And
we're going to do it. Do it, do it, do it,
do it, but do it. We gonna stay with it.
Do it. If we slip one play in funny here

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and there, boom, boom bom, here's your here's your full back, touchdown,
pass wide open. Okay, great, but it's it's I don't
think this year that Sean Payton has been settled as
a play caller.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
We had a fun game last night between you know,
Caleb Williams and Jane Daniels. That draft class, the twenty
twenty four draft class, I think, next to the twenty
eighteen draft class, is the next best one. We'll see
where things go in the future, and we'll see where
the twenty eighteen draft class kind of ends up in history.
Right now, it's kind of bumping into nineteen eighty three,

(04:24):
it looks like, but we'll evaluate as it goes. Where
would you put bo in terms of the six quarterbacks
drafted from the twenty twenty four class, Well.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
He's ahead of JJ McCarthy and that's obviously because of injury.
All right, So.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
We had Pennix last night too with the upset over
the Bills.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, Williams looks like he is why he was number one.
The last last three.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Games helps when you get the right coach, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, last three games he's been phenomenal. Panis I tell
you what penicks arm is stupid.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, he's kind of rocket man. I'll give you that.
That is something else in his the velocity there now.
And I'm not putting down Pennis at all. I thought
he had a great game.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I did.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
He has the luxury of being with probably the top
running back in the league this year.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
And it's it.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Ain't sa Quan. It ain't sat Quan this year, and
it ain't Henry this year. It's b John Robinson this year.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
So far.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
You're putting so you're putting Pennis ahead of of both.
See you putting Caleb ahead of Boat?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, Caleb Caleb for sure. Yeah this year you said
this year, Yeah, this year the Chicago's five hundred gosh,
Jane Daniels of pure talent.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yes, by the way, the Commanders had that game won.
They had it.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
They're a handoff away from in any game.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
They're a handoff away from winning the game.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
And then who's was it little? What's their running back? God? Dang,
he went crazy in that fourth quarter when you wanted
to get down to score. They couldn't stop the run.
Washington couldn't stop the I'm less, I'm less scared of
Washington right now, and I know that's a road game
that I am the Giants this weekend. He thought that
that's a good one. I am. I am less nervous

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about Washington and be able to go up there and
at least compete. Then I am about the Giants. Are
you putting Jade ahead of Bone? I think he's more
talented when.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Drake mayhead of Bone got better footwork.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
So you got bow five out of six. Well he's
moved up. But you're right. But I think all five
of those quarterbacks I just mentioned, it's a hell of
the classes. I think all five of those quarterbacks that
you mentioned. And we don't know about JJ. I didn't like.
I didn't like JJ in college. So he had some
great success though, Yeah, but I was that championship game.

(07:01):
I life was terrible. They want it, but I mean
I didn't think he was anything.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
It's hard to judge anything on McCarthy because he's unfortunately had,
you know, and sometimes that's the way some careers go.
I hope that isn't the case with them. But if
you want to just take him out of the conversation
because it's unfair to judge based off injury, you'd say,
right now, this draft class is in all honesty.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Five for five. Yeah, and listen, Williams to me last
night showed why he's number one, the way he looked.
But maybe you take the first. Maybe you take those
five guys and it's any given Sunday.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know what, Scott, Let me go back to the
nineteen eighty three class. Do you think for one second
Broncos fans would rather have Dan Marino rather than John Elway?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Not? Since we know history. Okay, do you think.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Any Buffalo Bills fans would rather have John Elway instead
of Jim Kelly?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
They should, but they won't. They definitely won't, but they should.
Do you think any.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Dolphins fans would rather have Jim Kelly.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Than Dan Marino? No?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
No, The truth is you can get yourself a hamburger
over there at McDonald's. Yeah, you can go over there
to Burger King. You can go over to five guys.
Is better than go and go to five guys. You
can go over there to In and Out, and you
know what, if one of them is your favorite joint,
you're gonna like that hamburger at that place the best.
But the truth is they're probably all good hamburgers. If

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you're partial to one, you're probably gonna stand up for it.
But the truth is all those businesses are doing pretty good.
And that's what I think we have out of the
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Because I know Jim Keller's your boy.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
He is my boy, sold him a two snowmobiles.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
He's your guy. Yeah. I think I think if John
Elway's your quarterback there, they win one of those.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Four, Oh man, that hurts.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think they win at least one of those.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
John had a shot at a couple of Super Bowls,
you know, and didn't.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
It didn't didn't go well for him either. It had
half the talent those bud.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean, I know Jim was over four, but John
was over for three before he got. Guys on that
Buffalo team or in the Hall of Fame quite a few.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, how many on those those eighties super Bowl teams
of John Elway or in the Hall of Fame, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I think zero, yeah, zero, I gotta think about that.
No wide receiver from the oh and three Broncos Super Bowls?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
God?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Is it zero? Is it really zero?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Zero? Is Dan Reeves in the Hall of Fame? No yet,
I don't think he is. You Is he or not?
I don't think he is? God?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Is it really zero?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Would you put Dan Reeves in the Hall of Fame
before Shanahan?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, no, that won't put him in the Hall of
Fame at all. He got to a bunch of Super
Bowls though, I mean, and he was at a play
play the super Bowl in the Hall of Fame, he
sure is. It took him a minute, though it did
not happen overnight. He's still alive.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
He's he's getting up there with Sister Jean territory pretty
soon he's he's uh. And that tradition, by the way,
they did not have that tradition in Buffalo when I
was there, like getting on the mic and saying, where
would you rather be than right here right now?

Speaker 4 (10:04):
You know why?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Because when I was there, Marv was coining that phrase,
like it was becoming a thing.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Then.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
That is such a powerful moment in legacy. When they
get up and say that's a Marv Levy quote. Man,
that just they say before every game the chills just
even thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
This.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Oh my god, Do.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
The Buffalo Bills win one of those four if they've
got Lway rather than than Kelly. I don't, golly, they
may win that first one. The first one is they
just needed to get a few more yards.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
They were such a better team than the Giants parcels
though he works some magic. They were such a better team.
And instead of a forty nine yard field goal, it
had been nice if that bad boy was a thirty
five yard and it was just like they just came
a little bit short on that drive to make it easier.
Would Elway have gotten him those yards? Golly, man, why

(10:58):
did you have to do that to me?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think that's a fair question.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Though, Well, they got blown out by the uh so
John wanted to beat a difference, and then yeah, the
Dallas one wouldn't have mattered. The Dallas killed you twice basically,
and then the Redskins, and they were the Redskins then
they they kind of handled you relatively easily too. But
you know what, that first one, damn it, he probably

(11:25):
does win you that first one.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Damn mmm.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
They were out coaching that one too, Do you know
that first one?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
This is a true story.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Parcells saw a reporter was just doing like a casual
like report, you know, and Parcells saw Belichick talks about it.
But Parcells saw that they were going to work like
a shuffle pass shut yeah, a little you know, little
shell thing to Kenneth Davis to be specific. And they

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did not. They were like, oh, we haven't seen that
during the season. And they tried it like three or
four times, and the Giants had scouted out because they
saw it on TV, and it was like, you know,
no wonder Belichick is a very paranoid about all the
coaches are, rightfully so, by the way.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's why Belichick was scouting out other teams for all
those years.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
It happened to hear a story like that is just
for Bills fans. It's just another heartbreaking Like, hey, listen, man,
I think the Bills fans they thought it was their year,
I tell me.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
And like that was on both the championship teams here,
there was there's a couple that escaped.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'll give you the two guys who escaped and got rings,
I'll give you.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I'll give you three great stories here of the Bills.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
The two guys that got rings that were on all
four of those teams were Mike Lodish, who got two
rings with the Broncos. I was buddies with Loaders back
in the day in Buffalo. In Buffalo, we were we
you know, we piled around. It's funn being in your
twenties the same age as the athletes. We would think,
you know, I was so broadcasters that are your same age. Yeah,

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it was kind of fun, right. We had some times.
He got two rings. Don Beebe got a ring with
the with the Packers, and the other guy who didn't
get a ring, but is the only player in NFL
history to be a active player on a roster for
five straight losing Super Bowls. This is gonna win your spark.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
No.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Somebody who went to the Chargers, the Broncos, or the
Bills lost four in a row. The Super Bowl the
next year was Steve Young the forty nine Ers against
the Chargers. Gail Gilbert was the backup quarterback Scott and
he was on the active roster.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
You wouldn't know his name.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
The most famous thing he was famous for is he
sprained his ankle on team picture day for the second.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Super Bow Bowl of the Bills.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
But this is back when teams carried three quarterbacks on
the act of fifty three all the time. Gale Gilbert,
you can look it up, lost five straight Super Bowls.
And I was unbelievably at the at the San Diego
forty nine or Super Bowl, and I went to the
locker room just to find him. Did you I really did?
And I was like, Gail, and he goes, I know,

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I can't believe it. I go sorry, and he.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Just kind of walked off. But that's it.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
That's the only player in NFL history to lose five
five straight super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
There's your bar trivia for your uh you're you're never
gonna win super Bowls. Watching that Bills game last night,
I was like, this is It's not gonna happen for
him either, you.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Know, Scott?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Can I tell you something ridiculous based on the Broncos
next four games, the way things are in the AFC
this year, I was trying to get up, Well why
not you got the best defense in the NFL, the best,
the best. I'm watching these other defenses. They can't they're

(15:08):
they're they're not even close to the Bronco.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah. And there's depth there. There's depth everywhere. There's depth
the works of linebacker. You know. It's funny.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Nate Krkman had a little bit of an influence on
me because like we were, you know, we're going through
the bow stuff and we had on rock about the
bow stuff and when we got Naden here, he's like,
that game was great, Okay, look at our defense. I
was like, all right, Nata, that's why you're the smartest
guy here.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Was he born when the Bears won their Super Bowl?
Was was Nate born in nineteen eighty six? I don't
know what it's gotta be. I bet he was like
an eighty eighty one? That was eighty five?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I think it was was that eighty five eighty five
Bears eighty six?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
The actual That screws me up. Yeah, why do you
ask that? I just wondered because that was a defensive team.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
So maybe he's, well, you know, defense, it's so funny.
You can you can basically rattle off the defensive teams
that have won Super Bowls? Can't you twenty fifteen Broncos,
two thousand Ravens, eighty five eighty six Bears, whatever it was.
I mean you kind of just know the dilfer Yep, yes,
that's right, Warren Sap Trent Dilfert.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, there's like six of them. I didn't even I
would even say the Ravens first one.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, I would, I would agree, Yeah, two thousand Ravens
and then even the wow with the Ravens team that
that beat San fran be one of them two really
not like not like their first No, So that was
twenty twelve. That's when they beat the Broncos. Could the
Bronco Could we have sixty Super Bowls? This is Super

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Bowl sixty, right, and you can think of the five
teams or so that just won strictly on defense, and
it has happened. So if the here's a bigger question,
if the Broncos truly have a generational, historically good defense
that it it does appear they have, and you can
win these one score games, why can't they win a

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Super Bowl? I don't know, you know the problem in
Super Bowl forty eight, for the.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Part, I'll tell you the only reason they can't. You
gotta flip the turnover ratio. Things got, But don't you
think that is gonna flip at some point?

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Speaker 5 (18:34):
Go all right, guys, the Broncos are bringing in a
wide receiver for a visit. Former Titans wide receiver Trailon
Burks is available and he will be visiting with the
Broncos next week. According to Ian Rappaport, former first round pick, guys,
he was the eighteenth overall pick in the twenty twenty

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two NFL draft. His career staff that's look like this.
He's got fifty three receptions for six hundred and ninety
nine yards and one touchdown in his three NFL seasons.
Scotty Arkansas guy Traylon Burke. So we'll see if the
Broncos end up signing him. Where are you guys at
with the Broncos receivers, right.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Now, Troy Franklin, nothing special.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Where are you at non Courtland Sutton with these guys.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
They're fine, but there's nothing special.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Do they need to bring this guy in?

Speaker 6 (19:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, they If you if you're going to do anything,
you would have drafted, you would have You know, the
Broncos only had to move up one spot or two
if they had to get in front of Tampa for EGWUCA,
that's all they had to do. Yeah, I mean, Golden's
Golden's doing pretty good. And if you got a little
wide receiver envy, it's your own damn fall because you
had to have, you know, Jade Baron, I.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Gotta believe if you bring anybody in, it's gonna go
practice squad, aren't they? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I mean, oh, by the way, Odre Guestsbabe, I don't
know if you're gonna do this or not. Got cut
from you want to talk about how the money have fallen?
He got cut from the Eagles practice squad. He's not
good enough to stay on. You know, the sixteen guys
who aren't even gonna play like, they're like, we gotta
we got to get a sixteenth guy in here. So
you got like fifty three on the roster. Then we

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got sixteen guys, so you're uh, you know math, all right, Dan,
next up?

Speaker 4 (20:24):
All right, all right, guys.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
We saw the Buffalo Bills lose to the Falcons last
night on Monday Night Football. They're entering there by week
on a two game losing streak after a four and
zero start. Sean McDermott said last night after they lost
to the Falcons that the team has to start from
ground zero. We'll figure out things on offense, defense and
special teams. McDermott said, We've got to start over and

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start from ground zero and figure this thing out and
work our tails off to do it. Thoughts right now,
with teams at the top of the AFC, it's it's
kind of a changing of the guard here. The Chiefs
are three and three, either, Ravens are one and five,
and the Bills look a little shaky. So could we
be seeing a slow changing of the guards at top

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of the age?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Hell yeah, you could.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
And the best defense is run by your own Denver Broncs,
by the way, mile long, three inches deep. Brad Johnson,
the quarterback of the Bucks when they had that great
defense and.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Correct. So we you know, the guys right, just yeah,
we just different teams. Just give us.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
We ain't correct, man, Okay, we were, but we get.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
The We don't really prepare for the show. You know
what's sad? You know?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Never mind, what's your question? Like where the AFC is?
The AFC is A is a crapshoot right now, and
if you got the best defense, you might have the
best chance in the AFC this year. It does not
look like an explosive offense. Scott is going to rule
the roost in the AFC. What one of the top

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teams in the A f C has an explosive offense?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Who scares you? Because their AFC offense is so explosive?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Ain't the Bills? Now it used to be the Bills.
Ain't the Chiefs? Ain't the Ravens? Who ain't the Bengals?
Although the Chiefs are starting to say.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay, and they put thirty up against Detroit, But I'd
make the argument Detroit's defense ain't all that? Who scares
you offensively?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Right now? In the AFC?

Speaker 7 (22:24):
Chargers, Hell no, what about the Chiefs? Just Kelsey, No,
Kelsey Kelsey's a Kelsey's an older man than Vick.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Right now, they've got Rashi Rice coming back.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Big deal, like all of a sudden, like, hey man,
if we can have will Watts continue to be a
great kicker as he's been, if Darren Rizzy could somehow
get control of his special teams, which he doesn't have
right now. Ron goes thirty two Scott in kickoff return unforgivable.

(23:02):
Unforgivable to be that bad in the way they're doing.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Kick returns these days.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I hate to say it, but right now, the Broncos,
the way they're defending kickoff returns right now, are better
off just booting it through the end zone.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
But that shouldn't be the case.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
You should be able to defend it and really use
that to your advantage. But right now, for the Broncos,
just boot it through the end zone. I'm sorry to
say that, but boy, they've giving up the cookies way
too often in that department.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah. I was about ready to come in this week
and say, boy, it seems like they've figured out the
kicking game. You're seeing you're seeing more guys stopped at
the twenty twenty two in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, in general, yes, that is true.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
You're still seeing it starts at the thirty eight forty
forty two.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, Broncos are averaging over twenty nine yards return by far,
the worst in the league. If you can't figure it out,
like we can't trust you, just you know, Okay, fine,
we'll start at thirty five and call it a.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Day, which is about what you're giving up anyway.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I mean, it's worse than that, Like that's your average.
So you're giving up, you're giving up.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Like game changes.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
You can give up a seventy two yard of the
other day, Like, I mean, you know, the the Jets
were terrible. They got six points and then they had
nine plays. They didn't have any first downs. How the
hell did you have six points and you had no
first downs in three possessions.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Turnover in a bad return.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, that's right, and that's you know, these are dumb
reasons to lose. It's something that's manageable and accepted.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
All right, guys.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Yesterday the Titans fired their head coach, Brian Callahan. Interim
Titans coach Mike McCoy spoke to the media for the
first time. My guy guyss have said that he's going
to get a chance to be their permanent head coach
after this season. He said he believes that cam Ward
can get things cleaned up. You know, kJ and I

(25:04):
were talking about this yesterday. I think it's the past
four number one overall Picks head coach have been fired
in their first season. Cam Ward, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young
and who is the Trevor Lawrence? All four fired their
head coaches in the first year. Peyton Manning's always said
one way to ruin your young quarterbacks is fire the

(25:26):
coach who calls the plays. Do you guys think Mike
McCoy has a chance to fix the Titans and cam
Ward Scott?

Speaker 2 (25:32):
How many coaches do you really just like personally that
you know everybody basically hates, but you just kind of
like the guy, you know, like I don't think I know,
but you know everybody can't stand him or has bad
things to say.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I thought it was a horrible offensive corter o going
all right, I didn't like Kim Wore Schumer Shermer calling
plays and dem you know what's funny.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
On a personal level, well, I like both of the guys.
I don't think people around here hate Case though. I
don't know, but I think you can go to New
York and Jacksonville, Yeah, Miami, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think I think Adam is despised in probably those places.
But I don't think. I don't think Adam's a bad
word here in Colorado. I think he's pretty well regarded. Actually,

(26:21):
Like Josh McDaniels is in New England, but you know,
good luck anywhere else, Indy, Saint Louis or you know, Raiders, Raiders, Yeah,
I mean, you know, Yeah, McCoy is my guy. He's
a good dude man. He's got a good snarky little
sense of humor and was I don't know, but he
got here with BJ Remember when l Way tried to

(26:43):
have a little VJ Will coach the defense, mccoyl coach
would like have two coaches. But McCoy was always one
of those guys where like this guy should be a
head coach, man, Like I think.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
He got a chance. Listen, he could turn cam Ward around.
You let spend the first round pick, first pick on
a quarterback. Well, he's that guy, man.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
And don't forget McCoy was here with gays when Peyton
Manning came here. And you want to talk about like
an offense like we've never seen let's talk about the
Broncos twenty twelve and twenty thirteen offenses. I mean that
was Those first two years with Peyton were offensively, I
mean ridiculous. You want to talk about what it could
have should is that twenty twelve Broncos team Scott, that

(27:30):
Joe Flacco Ravens. I think they beat the Ravens. I
think they cruise that year. I think they cruised the
Super Bowl because the defense was in better shape. And
don't forget in Super Bowl forty eight, you didn't have
Von Miller, you didn't have Derek Wolf, you had you know,
Paris Lennon as a starting player for you. You're deep
Champ Bailey. We love Champ, but he was on his

(27:52):
last legs. It just there was a big difference in
the defense from one year to the other. But that
twenty twelve year, I think they would.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Have cruised, cruised.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
But it was a really cold day that day, Joe
freaking Flacco and that was a double overtime game, bro
double overtime, and Peyton Manning had the ball in his
hands three times in a double overtime and they couldn't
get a field goal three times. Peyton Manning had had
the ball in the off People forget that. People think

(28:21):
that that game was lost, right, you know, No, no, no,
I mean they went to double overtime.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
The game was lost in the last thirty seconds of regulation.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Okay, but like it wasn't I know what you're saying.
I mean, metaphorically, maybe it was lost and you weren't
destined to win, but literally the game did go to
the double over time. All right, last story, Dan, really cool? Oh,
it was unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
You guys want to hear Jim Harbas salivating over his
quarterback Justin Herbert. The Chargers come back beat the Dolphins.
Herbert has it passed him Acconkey on the drive that
led to the field goal. Well, I'm gonna play it anyway, Scott,
don't ask the question here he is salivating over the
play of his quarterback.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
That play would be burning my mind. For t They
throw dirt over top of me, Usin Herbert back to
throw the fender wrapped around him. You know he's able
to just a mighty man it and shake it off
and hit Ladd Mconkey. Lad does his stop fly by
and uh starts starts getting that necessary yardage and here

(29:27):
comes Zion Johnson, uh flying ahead of Ladd, gets that
block shielded, and you know there's another twenty. Yeah, I'm
gonna remember that play till they throw dirt over top
of me. That's how great I feel about I feel
about that.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
He is such a weirdo, but I I really do
understand why his players love him though he is so weird.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
But I get Is that your question?

Speaker 5 (29:50):
No, My question was gonna be who loves their who
salivates over their quarterback? More harball with Herbert Sean Payton,
with bow Nicks, ah Hard.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Peyton sells it. I love what by the way Rock
said about that. Yeah, he comes out publicly and really
promotes bow. But he said I think he's pretty hard
on him, So I wonder how he might know that.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I told you, I hope we're going down Receed Street
here a little bit. Your boy was asking like, how
is that relationship really with bo Nicks Sean Payton? You know,
I get it a lot of nice platitudes and stuff,
but what's.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
It really like? Like, what's really going on?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Seeing a couple of little cracks a little bit?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, okay, you know, so who do you stick with? Man? Well?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Who am I Greg Penner because George Payton ain't making
that decision. Trust me, that's that's above George Payton's pay grade.
Well Craft screwed up by sticking by Belichick. I'll be
very specific, because we saw this in that Patriots documentary.
He's stuck by Belichick's side on the Brady Belichick beef

(31:06):
because the Patriots at the time had a really good
defense and it.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Was a mistake. My man, my man, just keep that
in mind.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Keep just.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
History made out repeated sales. Sports history does here.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
It's uh book titles, book title of them. I dare
you to miss this next segment next, all right, I
got a great conspiracy theory for you for my book titles. No, no,
I'll do it after, but I just want to let
you know after your double book title, I got a
great conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Theory stick around for that.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
What are your what are your book titles? And nan
Andy coming up here and will announce our winner for
our abstickets here in ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, I'm thinking thinking like all the years of radio
and stuff like that. So first working title seven minute
deuce in a four minute window by Life in Radio.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, I was I was rolling, I was giving you, Grace.
I was I was rolling without you. I wasn't. I
didn't ratch you out. It was as if you were here.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
But it was close.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I was close, but in the I mean you were
late for the segment by like a.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Long stretch forty seconds oh three back track, But again,
is that not our life in radio? Seven minute deuce
in a four minute window? Diarrhea?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Listen, No, that would be a lot quicker shizzle hat
you pray for. That's just like, yeah, you'll get the
number two. I was on a podcast with Mike on
Sunday night, and man, I played a sound I.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Was like, can I do this in fifty three seconds?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Because I have a little video clip and it was
like fifty three seconds long, and I know I was.
I was this close to saying, hey, Mike, why did
you take a couple of questions? And I'm playing the
sound clip and I'm like, I don't think I can
quite do it, and things settle down enough, but that
those thoughts go through your mind, like your your mind
and media sometimes this job. Can I do this timing wise?

(33:27):
But my friend, you got a partner here, Okay, you're good.
You take your time to understand that. But I mean
I think you got to be no, no, no, you got
it just real quick. Would that be a good radio book?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yes, it would be.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You got to go back to the radio days when
you had to press the buttons.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
My friend, Oh well, I was in the radio days.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean like when you're the only one there sound effects. Yeah,
And let me tell you who I felt the worst for,
because essentially I worked at rock stations, so I could
always put on.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know, got a veto.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Sure, well there's a two and a half minute version,
but if you put on that twenty minute version, you're like,
you know, there's.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Something going on.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
There's a couple of live old Genesis songs, and we
had I mean, if you were really feeling it, Blue Days, Dazing, Confused,
live led Zeppelin from Madison Square Garden and you know
you could.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Go home riders into storms about six.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I always felt bad because when I worked for the
Buffalo Savers, we had an oldies, oldies station. I mean
we're talking fifties, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Glenn Miller band. No, no, not.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Quite that old, but we're talking, you know, like the
fifties pop, fifties Miller. That's we're not doing jazz we're
doing like you know, you're Beatles and you know Elvis
and you know those type of songs rock around the
clock and you know them Oldie Sees sure, Jerry Lee
Lewis all that, and we did the Sabers games were

(34:50):
on the oldies station. I looked at that poor DJ.
Every song is like two minutes and fifteen seconds, and
you've got to start every song.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Oh, I don't.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
He must have a bucket underneath that con he still
has a computer.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
All right, that's my first working title. What's your second one?
Don't forget.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I got a big conspiracy theory coming up.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Working with one ply in a two play world, My
life in radio.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Well, we know what you're thinking about these days.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Well, I was sitting there thinking about it. Yeah, I was.
I was saying about that, but I mean it has
so much more connotations.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I worked with the dude in radio and Buffalo who
brought his own toilet paper in because it was too scratchy.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
We worked with Tyler and Andy Worseman. They working with one
plan in a two play world. He works with Andy.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
You're ready for my We got six minutes until the
winner go ahead at the conspiracy music.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Well, you have your own music. We go to Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Why did the Browns take Shedur Sanders the Browns yesterday
Scott's settled with the city of Cleveland because there were
ongoing lawsuits. Why because they're building a new stadium.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
My friend.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
So the Brown Stadium right now, whatever it is, was
built in nineteen ninety nine, very similar to in power
Field in terms of time. Just a pinch older, but
I mean ish, and they're they're kind of.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
The original Browns probably with a stadium.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Now, if you don't, if you haven't been to Cleveland,
I don't blame it. The Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame is kind of a big deal. Well, what's also
a big deal to Cleveland, believe it or not, is
the waterfront property. Well, the stadium is actually built in
a stupid place. Because you want to have a stadium
where you can do everything around the stadium in Cleveland,

(36:49):
there's a whole side of the stadium that's it's a lake. Right,
It's just dumb, you know, by today's standards. It's kind
of cool. But that property, it's a rare thing. That
property right there is way more valuable for commercial real
estate right on that part of Cleveland and believe it
or not, that part of Cleveland is kind of cool.

(37:11):
The flats are like across the river lake. The Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame is right that and then
you got this big football stadium. It's kind of hard
to access because there's a lake there. Guess where they're
building the new stadium and they settle this lawsuit just yesterday.
Guess where they're.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Going, Richfield. They're going to the suburbs.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I forget the name of it. They're going to They're
going to Lone Tree, They're going you know so. And
they just settled it, and there Jimmy Haslam is going
to be paying off the city and all that. It's
going to be completed in twenty twenty nine. We had
Adam Schefter guessing that the new Broncos Stadium would have
a Super Bowl in twenty thirty three. Is it possible

(37:52):
conspiracy theory that the NFL was embarrassed by what was
going on with Shader Sanders and wanted to avoid some
sort of whatever. Is it possible conspiracy theory that some
promises were made if you build that new stadium, when
a Super Bowl is going to come to Cleveland, if
you draft Shadur Sanders and sort of let us off

(38:14):
the hook so that we cannot be accused of X, Y,
and Z. And that's why Shadir Sanders was drafted. Because
the truth is nobody Scott really wanted Chadur in Cleveland,
but Jimmy Haslm wanted to be in good with the NFL.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
So when they.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Build this new stadium in twenty twenty nine, they get
a Super Bowl and say twenty thirty or twenty thirty
one in Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Ah, you guys digging my conspiracy theories. Why would the NFL?
Why would the Are you saying to keep away from
the collusion?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yes, comments we fear that it's. Hey, Jimmy Haslm, this
collusion stuff. I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
This.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's not comfortable. Tell you what, man, things make your
way in twenty thirty, twenty thirty one with that new stadium,
as long as you guys pick up Shadr here at
some point.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Oh, I think that's awful. Deep. I'm playing the conspiracy music. Yeah,
but not all conspiracies are deep.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Not all conspiracies, like hardly any of them are true,
but they're still conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
I ran out of conspiracies because they all came true.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Aait way, what what conspiracy?

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Isn't that deep Scott?

Speaker 3 (39:25):
The entire NFL organization is going to tell one team
to draft because we're gonna give you a super Bowl.
But the every town that's built, including Detroit, has gotten
a super Bowl. When they build a new arena.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Who do you think. Do you think anybody wants a
super Bowl in Cleveland?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
It better be an indoor Well, I'm sure it will be.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Every stadium is going to have retractable this The Bills
are stupid. By the way, the Bills are morons.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
They aren't.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
They don't get a super Bowl because they don't have
any coverings. They're covering the fans, they're heating the field,
but they're they idiotically are not developing a roof. So
you don't get a super Bowl in Buffalo, you morons.
But I can't even explain how stupid that is. By
the way, they're taking a ton of funding from the state.

(40:11):
You know how, We're gonna have no funding nothing, right,
We're just gonna do it, or great Penner's gonna do it.
And Buffalo they're taking everything they can possibly think of
because the phools aren't that rich. It's a conspiracy. But
when I read the article today about them settling with
the city of Cleveland, and everybody's hunky dory by the way,
about putting that stadium out in the suburbs. There ain't

(40:33):
no outcry in Cleveland about keeping a stadium downtown.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
None.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
They're all like excited to have that bad boy fifteen
miles outside of city limits. It's almost identical to where
like Loan Tree is compared to where the Broncos are,
almost the same distance.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
The Cavaliers we used to play. They used to play
on a Richfield coliseum on the suburbs. Out in the suburbs,
the only hotel that was nearby. We stayedd a holiday
in Express or no holiday in Hollodome because they had
a swimming pool and stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Dude, if the creek don't rise and we're all here
to hear it, do not be surprised if we get
a Super Bowl. Remember this conversation. In twenty thirty or whatever,
it's announced that there's a Super Bowl going to be
held in Cleveland, and it may be based conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Stay on SAT see what's going on with new stadiums.
What have you heard any resolution with Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Kansas City, Oh the case Missouri Kansas, Missouri battle.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
To war, border war, Kansas Basic. He said, yeah, we'll
build it for you.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I'll get to that in a second. Congratulations, thank you,
Dan Justin Kirk of Denver wins those AVS tickets and
Nate Nandy will give out another keyword at three twenty
and they'll have a pair to give away as well.
So there you go. Ass tickets on an ass ticket Tuesday.
More keywords to come. I am not familiar with what's
going on with I know Missouri and Kansas have had

(41:56):
this fascinating like battle, and it's Kansas that's open to
like everything right. Missouri is a little stickier with what
they want to do.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I think.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And the stadium right now is in Missouri, correct of
the Kansas City thing.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
It's in Missouri.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Well you know what's amazing there?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
But as you said, Aigo, there's nothing around it except
the Royal Stadium.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, but at least there's like there's not a lake
like when I saw that stadium where it was. It's like,
this is the dumbest location ever for an NFL stadium.
It's the whole side is just water.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Well, the forty nine ers say, hello, they're not.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
They're in Santa Clara. That used to be in Candlestick
was bad. But they're they're in Santa Clara.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
But there's nothing around it is there.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
It's just parking lots. It's it's it's it's fine. There's
there's tons, tons of parking near the Santa Clara Clara Niners.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
You have tons. But but going back to what origin,
don't you have to have an entertainment district around your
new stadium? Ah?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yes, and I mean it's I roll my eyes because
you know it's the San Francisco forty nine ers, like
built in Highlands Ranch. So entertainment I mean is the
AMC twenty four off Broadway in four to seventy and
entertainment district is you know it's like that. It's it's
it's like the most generic American place in the world.

(43:19):
That's your quote unquote entertainment district around the Niners. It's
like Glendale's the same way, by the way where where
the Cardinals are. It's just as if you go about
a mile and a half away, there's there's some cool
places in Glendale.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yeah, there's some restaurants cool when you.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Get centered Texas Roadhouse like a cool place.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
No, there was a Mexican restaurant I ate at that.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Was, oh Chipotle pack dude, it's say it again.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
What did you call it? Chipotle? Chipotle?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Okay, and you only had the status for like one day.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
It was, it was around for four days. It made
an appearance and then and then it disappeared. Yeah, it's
these things again. They're just they're just visitors. Okay. Nobody's
here permanently.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
It never stays longer. You you were out Friday, so
you must have had a Friday.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
We were on remote on Friday.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
I saw yes, because Twitch cannot comment on it. Yes,
you had it Monday and here we are today, and
then here we are.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
You do like to rock like the somewhat homeless look