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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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of the Broncos. Remember to enjoy responsibly. See what they
got on the thundervision down there already I did.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I did bad take though.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
If you look down in a little small cap of
Broncals rushing, see they tied it into the running game.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh is that how you took it?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Look at the bottom script of it on the screen,
got red screenshot you said, was.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
My high city?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Different serious rushing yards?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
See they got it tight end with rushing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh that's how it's because it says season rushing yards there. Yeah, okay,
so a v C might still have some hope.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
No good, So you didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
That's why when I sent you back the response to
that picture, you're you're like, what the hell is he
talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Did you let right back?
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Hold on?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'll say.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So, you're a half step behind it, Scotty. I did notice.
For whatever it's.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Worth, the uninspired empower field game. Ops don't get creativity.
I just thought you thought, you know, the orange Rush
thing was was the rip off.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
They're tying into running. That's that's the cats. That's the cat,
that's the hook got. It's about the Orange Rush, is
about the past.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So there's still hope for the A B C. You know,
here's what it is. I did screw up a little
bit because the A B C that doesn't make sense.
What you need to say it's.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
The A B C D.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And then somebody else pointed out you really could say
the A B C D e F.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You know, I literally suggested that yesterday because that combines
d J. Jones in the.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Defense perfect idea?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
What is wrong with you? Now?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's a good idea, the A B C. It's your idea.
I'll give you credit for it. I don't want Tyler
has a great idea. No, I'm sorry Tyler's idea I
supported one thousand percent.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I apologize. I take it back, obviously, for I was
trying to improve your terrible nick name. But there's no
improving it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You've vastly improved it, so now it works.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I got maybe one way that if you want to
try to salvage it a little bit. Dan has a
little for you.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's always a collaborative.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I still want to call it the wed again.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
The ABC Little Michael Jackson, I'd say, you're making it
even better. Always be closing. It's simple like ABE like
one two three, ABC one two three, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You and me. Oh there you go. Then we're on
the tame page.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You're throwing a nick Bonito sound sack right here.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Is this another great idea from you?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Terrible idea for me? I'm just a music man.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, Tyler had the better idea.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Anyways, Tyler, Tyler tried to improve a terrible idea.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And you did significantly to the degree that I think
we could call it Tyler's idea.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So what you're saying is when Dan didn't highlights yesterday,
he should have put this song under the highlights.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That would have actually been pretty awesome. And now the
ABC D when they when they take their photo of
Alan Beandino and Cooper, they can be dressed up like
the Jackson five bell bottoms and the big FROs suits
and the frow the hats and the one guy's on bass,
the other guys you know, know, was Tito your favorite Jackson?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
No, I just all I know is Tito, Jermaine, Randy, Michael, Tito.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Here's a hand, hank, Jeef. Here you go, Tito.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I don't remember all of them.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Jermaine, Michael, Tito, Willie, Fred, Bill, Bill, Janned, LaToya, Suirley,
Janet and Janet. Janna is in there too. So all
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we need now, Dan, See, it gets better and better.
Some some you know, football, and some Tyler's idea. Tyler's idea.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Don't you put that on me, Ricky Bobby. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I couldn't. I couldn't get it over the Finish Life.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
But I want nothing to do with this terrible, terrible dick.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Tyler was there, like in his underwear, just like Ricky
Bobby running over the Finish Show.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You could have brought an ugly date to the prom
and Tyler's gonna put some just.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Put a little bakeup, which is but she's still ugly.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, but now she's your date.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's a good one. Okay, that's a good that's a
good one.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
See it's catching some fire. I didn't even catch the
rushing thing. I apologize for that, but you're right, So
we'll see where it goes. You guys, feeling good about
the game or where's your head's at here?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Today?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Harry the Morning Show is super cocky about this game, Like, Wow,
I'm really.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Good about the game all week long, I really have.
I mean part of it's because I'm tossing the Jets
game out. I'm just making an anomaly and we're about
to find out whether that thing was the real deal
or not, because you're going up against another relatively uh
not very good football team, put it that way, and
so yeah, I think the Broncos are going to handle it.
What's the spread? What's the spread?
Speaker 6 (05:52):
I don't know, I would guess.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I'm gonna guess six and a half. I'm gonna say
four and a half.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Let's see which I was pretty No, it's it's gotta
be more than four and a half. It is seven
and a half down and a half. How about that?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, that's a bigger spread than last week against the Jets.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
There they'll cover the spread.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Wow, I'm glad. I'm glad you're feeling so good about it.
I'm not so I got them winning by four, and
I'm just gonna stick to that and low scoring too,
something like twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
But hey, am I, I'll welcome to it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, twenty four to thirteen Devin Broncos.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That'd be awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm waiting for the offense to click. It took a
little time last year, whatever that means, and wherever they
got to get to, but it's got to get better.
I still throw the idea at you're not gonna win
a lot more games this year. If you're only scoring
thirteen points. I'm not sure you're gonna win this game.
If you only score thirteen.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Points last game of the season, that you might be
able to do it, though, last what this might be
the last game of the season that you could win
by scoring thirteen I mean might be, might might be.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I fear the special team's return coverage is gonna let
you down on this one.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I just think your offense has got to start proposed
getting better. I'm going to show you this comparison. I
thought about this Texan Andy late in their show, right
before they go off.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Of four thirty.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
House hockey.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That was a fun game to watch. If this offense
doesn't step up and it becomes give me a spectator
type of an offense for the next year or two.
Can you relate that to what we've seen the last
two years with the Nuggets, with what they put around
(07:37):
n Kola Jokic, Because is this defense not if you
go back what you said and when Nate said earlier
this week that this defense is primo and and and
super special. If you don't give some to a sentuated
that actually puts points on the board, are you wasting
a great defense?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, we said, if you could just have average offensive play,
you'll probably win nine or ten game. Right If you
get above average off you get.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
To the playoffs and like in the NBA and maybe
maybe get the Sega round, maybe not get the seground.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Get above average, you might have a chance of winning
eleven something like that. You know, right now we don't
have average right now. It's ugly. So Bode's got to
get better. The offense has got to get better. Sean
Payton's got to get better. The whole deal's got to
get better on offense.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Zach Seegers, good dude, retreated this guy. Matt Williamson. You
know those charts that show yo kics just like like
you know, whatever the x Y charts are and he's
just offense.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Now he's now to the point where I watched a
Bill Simmons with one of the other big national rioder speakers,
espn Ors.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
He's now on national broadcast. I mean, he has topics
on major podcasts around the country, which I think when
you when you start doing stuff like that in today's
you're now there, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Oh he's so there. And in that chart, well, look
at where the Broncos defense is. Maybe can see and
that's small, I know, but I.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Just show it to you.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They're they're they're Jokic land, you know what I'm saying.
Like there it's pass rush to sack ratio and they're
the I mean, they're in a land by themselves.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
There's nobody.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So it's a good comparison to say they're playing right
now kind of what Nicola has been the last few years.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, the the disparity, the difference between their pass rush
to sack ratio, it's in a different universe than the
rest of the teams in the league. It's uncommon. So
that's historic. You know when you talk about, like Patser
Tan said, we're gonna have a historic defense, Well, you
gotta have something to back it up.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Well, here you go. I mean, if that stays up
and this is what Nicola has had for the past
few years.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well defensive field themselves. I mean we're taking shots at
the Giants fan base, where we're taking shots at Jackson Dart.
I mean, we're providing bolt to board material and you
know what, I'm down for it. I am. I don't.
I don't think these boys have to shy away from
being good like this to me is not like the
same thing as Sean Payton spouting off before the season
about how good his team is. Our defense, Like they're
(10:01):
they're feeling themselves because they're they're doing it well. We're
actually out there doing their things.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Well to the specifics of it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's Jonathan Cooper, it's Nick Benido, it's I think Thibodeaux
on their side. Yeah, there's a little uh, Dark responded
Jackson Dark responded in a snarky way. We got a
little something something going on. We got a little uh.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
For game seven of a seventeen game series against an
Eastern Conference team. Yeah, in the Western Conference team in
NFC AFC. This shouldn't have this shouldn't be anything about Biltimore.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
With with all with all proper respects in Aid and
Andy and their jazz flutes and twitter beefs. We got
some of that. We got some of that. We'll we'll
show you what it is coming up next.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
What do you think of the Broncos players being suspissive
of you.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Guys and your fanbase.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Yeah, I just say this the that's a really good
football team.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Note that really matters.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
What matters is how you perform during the week and
how you play on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Pat.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
As you know, again, we're in a competitive industry, an
emotional industry. But the most important thing is doing your
job leading up to Sunday and then ultimately going out
there and playing well on Sunday, making tackles, taking care
of the football, communicating well in a loud environment, being
productive on early downs, trying to stay out of third
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and long, trying to get them into third and long,
playing good on special teams, tackling mems that those are
the things that matter.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Okay, boy, talk about this coming out of nowhere. Great
Jersey Bend, by the way, that's Jersey Ben Bon Jovie.
Better Jersey Ben than Springsteen.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Okay, Bob Poppa, who's been the voice of the Giants
Forever will join us in eight minutes so we can
get toad Greg.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
That is a great question.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's an unusual last name, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I don't know. I did a hit with them another
day and on my phone, I got a call from
a New York area code right and it says New
York Giants on my phone and I was like, oh,
I better answer this one. Maybe they're calling me to
get come out of retirement on this sucker. And I
really cause that used to be like the rush, Like
when when you'd be a free agent or whatever and
all of a sudden you look at your phone and
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you see a team is calling you. It says their name.
You're like, oh, yes, here we go. Man. It gave
me a quick flashback.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It wasn't that though. They weren't asking to play.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I just want me to talk.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So I guess it all started with Jonathan Cooper.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I mean he's a young, young guy. He's you know,
feeling himself a little bit. He's out there running around,
he's got the chain on, he's dancing. You know.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I feel like everybody needs something.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
But we've went against QB's who have ran around in
the pocket and have, you know, try to do stuff
with their legs.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So it ain't nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
We haven't seen game, so asked about it yesterday Jackson
and Darko's quote. I think a lot of guys wear
chains and dance when they score touchdowns. I appreciate him
following my touchdowns, my dance touchdowns. Abdul Carter Rookie tweeted,
put your three D glasses on, and response to Jonathan
Cooper's remark, then uh, Cavon Thibodeaux tweeted, this is all
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on Twitter last night, by the way, hold on what
I miss?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Then he responded to that. I don't have the exact quote,
but he responded to that. And you know, I think
I think Nick Bonito put something out there and deleted
it like it was a it was a whole thing
going on there.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So who shot the first fire across the.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I guess it was Jonathan Cooper?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
We did.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, listen, you shoot one across the bow, you'll be
ready to swing over and get on the first boarding
party getting on the ship.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I actually think this team needs something like that right now.
Like we're trying to figure ourselves out. Our defense has
got plenty of reasons to be confident. Okay, talk a
little trash. Now, go out there and back it up.
No big deal. I mean it is going to be
BOLTI board material any game in which there was about
zero chances of there being BOLTI board material. But I'm down.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, and Benino was quote I've never seen such delusional
fan base.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
But this was in response because the Giants fans have
been getting all over Cooper for saying what he said.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yep, yeah, what does put your three D glasses on me?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
You can see better?
Speaker 6 (14:27):
I guess what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Like you can see better?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, so you don't understand what you're saying. Put you
put your.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You're looking at this better? I would assume, right, Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Hi, And actually, if you look at the quote, he's
a young guy. He's feeling himself a little bit. He's
out there running around, he's got the chain on, he's dancing.
I feel like everybody needs something.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know. What's so bad about that?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, it's kind of the tone, the dismissive tone of like,
you know, yeah, you're you're a cute little team, but
you know, wait till wait, wait until you see mom
and dad come home. As Cooper and Benito are back
to back Defensive Players of the Week in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Hey, twenty fifteen defense wasn't shy about talking trash.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
True, trash talk matter before games, can it?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I don't really think so, to be honest, I don't know.
I mean, have you ever prepared more or less for
a basketball game, scop because somebody said something like maybe
maybe a little personal battles. It gives you a little
extra ambition to go out there and perform a little
bit better. But I don't know, man, I mean, a
football game is a football game. They're all tough. You
prepared the same way for them all.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
On one hand, you're like, thinking, as I said a
w ago, you've got an NFC team, an AFC team,
two different divisions, both young quarterbacks, one second year, one's
a rookie. Okay, you know, maybe some paths work in
the same direction. Hey, You're like, why is there any
beef at all? I mean, there shouldn't be any beef
at all? You don't We won't see these guys again
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for three years, right, four years? And yet with social
media and what it is, I'm surprised there hasn't been
more beef every single week in the NFL. Jonathan Cooper
is saying the same thing I've been saying all week long, like, yeah,
Camp's kataboo, Like we gets cool man, but he ain't
all that.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
He ain't that good. Like he's gonna run through a
tackle or two, but we're not exactly terrified of Camp's kataboo.
Jackson Dart, Okay, the dude's got good feet. Yep, he's
got really good feet, and he's gonna run around. He's
gonna pick up two or three first downs with his feet.
You know who we've already played this year. We played
justin Fields, We played Jalen Hurts. Contained those guys pretty well,
didn't we.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, I mean the Broncos are definitely.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But when you're a team that's.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Trying to figure themselves out in your animal House, yeah,
you know you're getting ready to wreck the parade and
what they want to do. We are now at the
last scene of the movie and some of the Animal
House are trying to wreck the homecoming parade.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And useless gesture is how it was put in the movie.
And who's better to serve up a feudal and useless
gesture than us? So there was nothing about wrecking the
parade that changed anything. It was a feudal and useless gesture.
That you led the band into an alley so the
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trombone smashed into a wall, and that you knock down
the stands where the mayor was with Dean Warmer, and
that you took Dean Warmer's wife home apparently, which happened
in the movie. It didn't matter, didn't change anything. It
was a feudile, feudile and useless gesture.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Which is what this could be.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Which maybe this is what the Giant Season really is.
In all honesty, maybe.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
They should have told Jackson Dart and Camp's kataboo that
drunken stupid's no way to go through life. That's right.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
You just hope that they don't come out and ball
and get up fourteen to nothing. Then Seam Payton's over
on the sidelight, going.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Stay come all this world.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Because the golf ball may end up in the soup,
and then a food fight starts, and then you know,
I keep to leaves on the field, snatching a chain
away from Jackson Dart.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I'll say this, see Tyler Grease if this is real
and this just isn't you know, modern day Twitter battles
and everybody. I mean, you can find a Twitter battle
if you search hard enough every single day or or
ten or one hundred. But if it gets chippy real early,
like in the first five or six minutes, you start
seeing some chippiness, then maybe these guys took it more seriously.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
We thought, all right, cool, I mean, that'll be fun.
I think that'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm hoping Nate Andy puts some jazz flute to it
later this afternoon and put their spin on it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
That's what they do. That's a great pit that they do.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They take Twitter beets and they put the jazz flute
from like Anchorman or something underneath it, and they just
go through the Twitter beefs.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
It's hysterical.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I don't know. These boys got me feeling a little
bit more confident too. Giants aren't scoring one of the
fourteen points in this game.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, we all got the Broncos winning this one. I
guess it just depends what the margin is. We'll talk
to Bob Papa.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Good question.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
In just a second, it's time for the Injury Report,
powered by Ramo's Law, the official law firm Injury law
firm partner of the Denver Broncos yesterday. The only person
that did not participate was Jonah Ellis Drake Greenlaw, according
to VJ, like a pitch count sort of thing. That's
what VJ was more or less saying, maybe not just
(19:30):
for this week, but for the next couple of weeks.
So I think Greenlaw could go just like we've been speculating,
but they're gonna be careful with it.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Is the last time he practiced the first practice, dual practice,
that was here in Denver.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Then we have a dual practice of day.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
He came back after that a little bit and then
reaggravated again. He reaggravated it twice, but he actually played
in that little scrammy. He did practice. Yeah, Yeah, you're right.
The next he did participate in that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Bob Papa from the Voice of the Giants and Serious
Radio joins us, Hey, Bob, thank you for being on
with us. Yeah, we look at the Giants right now.
We're we've been calling them Delta House like animal House
recently for the past couple of weeks because we got
cam Skataboos, Blueto zero point zero and Jackson Dart is
the president of the fraternity how do you guys like
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that comparison? Can you take that as a compliment or
is that an insult?
Speaker 8 (20:30):
I think considering what the Giants have been like basically
over the last decade, with the exception of twenty sixteen,
in twenty twenty two, I think any description is a
good description at this point.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
What what all?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Give us what's the vibe there? Especially with Dart and Skataboo.
I guess that's the the I mean, that's got to
be These are the star Yeah. I guess you got
other good players too, obviously, but those those who have
everybody's attention, well.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
I mean they've energized a Dorman football team, right. I mean,
you watch the Sunday night football game against the Chiefs.
It was a gettable game at MetLife Stadium, and then
Russell Wilson is throwing the ball out of the back
of the end zone goal. Yeah, I mean, and listen,
Russell Wilson was a great player, you know, for a
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long time in this league. But Father Time is undefeated
unless you're Tom Brady or Joe Flacco. But you know,
it's one of those situations where you look at it
and you just say, hey, it was time to inject
a little life. And Jackson Dart has been a very
robust figure around the team since the minute they drafted him.
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He had that personality at Old Miss. A lot of
people said he had that pied piper where all of
his teammates, not just the guys on offense but defense,
gravitated toward whatever that it is that he has. And look,
the results are pretty good.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
When they played the Chargers in Week four, the Chargers
were three and oh they had three division wins. People,
you know, they had that incredible win against the Broncos
and everyone was talking about, hey, the Chargers are one
of the better teams in the league. And the Giants
never trailed. They beat them wire to wire. Then they
turned it over five straight times in New Orleans and
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lost to a winless team, and then in primetime they
beat the Super Bowl champions. And Dart and Scataboo have
a lot to do with that, not only with the
energy that they bring, but they're pretty good players too.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Bob, I respect the hell out of camps Kataboo. I mean,
he's so much fun to watch. It's just like that's football, right,
That's the way the football is supposed to be. Played,
and I hate to add to the bulletin board material
that's going on this week, but I'm just not convinced
he's that good. I'm not convinced that Jackson Dart is
that good. They're like energizer bunnies that have provided a
spark plug. But tell me why I'm wrong or do
(22:55):
you disagree with me on that. I just can't tell
how good these guys are or if they're just period of.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Well. I mean, Skataboo was pretty good last year at
Arizona State. I think the thing that everybody misses about
Skataboo is and you'll, hopefully you'll get a chance to
see this a little on display on Sunday or maybe
if you're rooting for the Broncos you won't. But he's
got a lot better vision than people think, and he's
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a lot shiftier than people think. And in the open field,
he's a lot faster than people think.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Like he's a pretty.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Darn good back. Now. Am I saying he's Jonathan Taylor
or Bijon Robinson. No, he's not. Or Saquon Barkley or
Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
No.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
But I think he's got above average skills as far
as being a runner in the National Football League, and
everybody falls in love with the battering ram and all
that other stuff and him fighting for extra yardage, But
take a look at sometimes how he gets to that spot,
when he gets to that second level. He's a little
shiftier than people think. And look Jackson Dart. I mean
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the Giants took them in the first round. There were
some other teams that really liked them. That's why the
Giants traded back into the first round to take them.
All I know is this, He's one of only three
quarterbacks in the history of the NFL to have over
fifty yards rushing in his first three career starts, Jalen
Hurts and Lamar Jackson. And since nineteen seventy eight, there's
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been only two quarterbacks that have led their team on
an opening drive touchdown in their first three starts, Jackson
Dart and Patrick Mahomes. And that's going back to nineteen
seventy eight. So I think it's a little bit more
than energy. I think it's his ability to use his
legs extend plays on Hey, if you watch that Eagle
game the other night, if Russell Wilson's in there, the
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Eagles have seven sacks, and he's able to make you know,
one of the things that he does well, which bo
Nix did very well last year, is when they're on
the move, their eyes remained downfield to make plays. And
I think Jackson Dart will just continue to get better
and better as a player. And you know, obviously the
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energy brings is one thing, but he's also not a dummy.
I mean, he's he's a student of the game. He's
been well coached by the likes of Lane Kiffen and
Charlie Weis Junior, and I think he's just in the
right spot at the right time.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And Bobby, you've talked about it too.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
In the tough years that the Giants have had, and
we've talked about our show, we went an eight year,
you know, drought trying to figureut how to get even
to the playoffs. You get a quarterback, you're young, you
may overdraft a little bit, who knows, but in this
league right now, you're really not going anywhere if you
can't find a young quarterback that can hopefully turned into
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a franchise guy for you to really change your fortunes
for the league. And you guys are hoping that's Jackson Dart,
like Denver is hoping that it's bow Knicks.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Exactly.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
I mean, you know, the Giants thought they might have
had that in Daniel Jones, and look, he had an
unbelievable rookie season. Pat Shermer was his head coach. Pat
Shermer gets fired. Mike Shuley was the OC. He gets fired.
Then Joe Judge comes in and a new offensive coordinator,
and then the offensive coordinator gets fired, and then a
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new general manager comes in and a new head coach
and another new offensive coordinator comes in. Like it's hard
for a quarterback to develop. And you know with Sean
Payton there in Denver and bow Nicks, you know you
have the opportunity there to develop this guy and maybe
take a guy that's a seventy to thirty chance of
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being a top line player and increasing the odds even
higher by having continuity and a legitimate guy. And the
Giants are hoping that, you know, Jackson Dart with Brian
Dable can be that recipe where they can build upon
what they're doing right now as he gets and hopefully
he gets better and better. All I know is this
the last three games since he started, they're averaging one
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hundred and fifty six yards rushing a game. They're hitting
their third downs at fifty one percent, and they've scored
seven of their nine red zone touchdowns since Start was
put in the starting lineup. And again, it's against the Chargers,
it's against I know, the Saints, and it's against the
defending Super Bowl champions. So it's not like he got
to play Tennessee three straight games. I mean it's against
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a couple of good teams that he's done that against.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
How are you feeling about the offensive line of the
Giants in terms of pass protection going against the Broncos, D.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
Man, it's gonna be brutal. I mean, look, since Andrew
Thomas got back and healthy after his foot injury, the
offensive line has been a lot better because you don't
always have to help your left tackle and you can
play it a little more straight up. To me, it
comes down to will the Giants be able to run
the ball effectively enough on first down? Or short pass
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game to the backs to the tight ends try to
get you know, if you can get four and a
half yards on first down, all right, Now you stay
on schedule, and now the playbook's.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Open to you.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
But if they get behind the chains, I don't know
how you hold off that pass rush because it's not
one guy, right, It's not like when you're going against
the Cowboys and it's just Micah Parsons. It's across the board,
it's interior, it's the two edge rushers, it's the inside backers,
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and even the safety's got a sack. So like, everybody
joins the party. And if the Giants are playing in
second and nine and third and eight sol game, it's
going to be a long day if you is it?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well said?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, and especially you're talking about a young quarterback now,
not only the third lungs against the defense and stuff.
Now you're talking about a young guy. How quick under
Duresk can you actually pick and choose and find the guys?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
You know?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
By the way, you still got two pretty good corners
that if you do go man to man, pretty good
man to man players.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I was reading here, Bob, this is the biggest Giants
game since they went to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Is this the biggest Giants game since then? The biggest
test they've had, the biggest spotlight on the Giants?
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Oh no, no, okay, I would disagree with that. I mean,
the biggest one was last Thursday Night since Plaxico Burris
shot himself in the leg in two thousand and eight,
when the Giants were the dominant team in the NFL,
they were the defending Super Bowl champs, they were ten
and one or whatever. They beat the heck out of
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the Steelers in Pittsburgh, they beat out, they were beating everybody.
He shot himself in the leg. He was the matchup
problem for the Eagles since Donovan McNabb and the Eagles
went into Giants Stadium in the divisional playoff round and
beat the Giants that day when the Giants with the
number one seed. The Eagles had beaten the Giants twenty
seven out of thirty four games. Well, I mean it
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has been like they have owned the Giants. So last
Thursday night in prime time, you know the Giants in
twenty eighteen, before that game, we're three and twenty in
primetime games. Like to go out there and beat the
defending Super Bowl champion Eagles, that was the biggest game.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Now this is big.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
This one has become big because of what they've done
in two of their last three. But as far as
the Giant fan base and the Eagles and the division
and the hatred that was second to none.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
I mean, you know, if you're there every day, you know,
you see what you see, and you know and you
know what you know. And I understand the career numbers.
I mean, when you start looking at numbers, that doesn't
always tell the complete story about what a guy meant
for a team and a franchise. But like I tried
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to tell the people on the Giant social media department
when he was up for the first time, I'm like, dude,
he's not getting in. It's going to take him a
few years, and there's going to be some guys like
Drew Brees that there jumped the line, guys that the
first year of eligibility, their numbers are so off the charts,
they're going to get in ahead of them. You know, Listen.
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I'm good friends with Shannon Sharp. I was in his
hotel room with he and his brother the first year
that Shannon was eligible to get into the Hall of Fame.
And I think at the time that he retired, he
had the most receiving yards and receptions of any tight
end in the history of the sport. Yeah, he didn't
get in in his first ballot straighthand didn't get in
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his first ballot. And I said, you know, it's not
Eli's fault that the general manager in the organization failed him,
because he was thirty two when they handed him a
second Lombardi Trophy, and then they just neglected the offensive line.
They drafted horribly and the thing was a mess. It
wasn't his fall. But the record is the record. So
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it's gonna take Eli a few years to get in,
but I think eventually he's going to get in as
more time goes by.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
All Right, well, Bob, enjoy your your visit here to
uh to our city. It is the ten year union.
Tyler was on the team of the Super Bowl fifty champions.
They have one hundred and forty alumni forty or so
players from the team, including the No Fly Zone. So
here in here in Denver, the juice for this one
(32:31):
is pretty high. I gotta be honest with you. It's
a it's a big one in terms of the excitement
for this game.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a it's an unbelievable history
and uh, it's it's it's pretty cool to be able
to be there, to see it, because I think that's
that's going to be pretty special. Those were some great teams,
and like, you know, I'm really in like all the
Hall of Fame stuff and the voting and everything, and
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is it not just absolutely in urse to the Pro
Football Hall of Fame that Mike Shanahan is not in.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Thank you? Yep, you're right. We talked about it every year.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
With all due respect to Don Coriel, who I know
there's a lot of lobbying that goes in with former
players and stuff. But you please tell me how Don
Coriel could be in the Hall of Fame before Mike Shanahan,
before Tom Coughlin, before Dan Reeves. Please please explain that
to me.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Well, Bob, we're gonna welcome you with open arms, all
right there. That's the way to butter yourself up to right.
There's no doubt about it. We appreciate your time, man,
We got it. We're not disagreeing with you, We got it.
Thank you, Bob, appreciate it all right. Guys, there you go,
Bob Papa, he's been doing that a long time. Good argument, man,
right there. Yeah, I don't think they're quite sure they
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like it, though. I think that's the vibe. They don't know,
they don't know if this is all for real, but
but they've been starved for any kind of excitement with
that team for a long time.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
But it so were we last year, aren't they kind
of yes, on a parallel track to what we last year?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Did we find something? Is this gonna be real? Do
you realize how lucky the Giants are right now that
they've got Jackson Dart for their fan base. With what
Daniel Jones is doing in in Indianapolis? Yeah, I mean,
can you imagine if they didn't have hope from Jackson
Dart they got to watch Daniel Jones do that? All right?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
We have more on the Broncos than the Giants as
we rolled nice win by the Avs last night.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
It's PhD on ninety five, but.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Brow Haggans in shine, the ten Hagens from the end
zone and a ccinnati lead.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Call it what you want, the icy hot boll, Jarret's all.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Ball, dude. The Electricity Bowl, Great Game.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Bowl, unbelievable game, unbelievable game.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
How freaking cool was that it was?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Every part of it was amazing to the degree where
I was like, hey man, this is the end of
the Joe Flacco movie. You might as well just walk
off into the sunset, like I'm not exactly sure how
it gets any better than this. Right now, you in
a Bengals outfit with Bengals fans chinning, thank you Cleveland.
(35:13):
As you're talking about how like play calls were like,
I don't know, so I'll just run with it. That's
what he said, like something was supposed to happen, and
then he was like whatever, I'll just go and it
was amazing. Well, you lead your team, this new team,
to a comeback, and then t Higgins screws me over
in fantasy football by not running in.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
We do right, put a smart play.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Smart play screwed us over in fantasy Dude, if we
lose our fantasy games by like six points, I'm gonna
be pissed.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But dude, I was like, going, it's and the ward.
I watch it and then he slides down.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
I'm like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
And then she goes, why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I go, well, it's a smart place.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
They know they're gonna get the field goal to win
the game. They have two timeouts and it would have
been like a minute thirty nine. You probably don't want
to get Aaron Rodgers a minute thirty nine and two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, he didn't need a ben at thirty.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Can I give you something else too, which is wild?
His hail Mary throw Rodgers seventy yards the longest air
yard throw in the NFL this year?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah? Yeah, forty one years old. I mean, you just
watched two guys go out there and play nearly perfect football.
I mean, gif Joe Flacco a couple of wide receivers,
and all of a sudden, the dude looks unbelievable. I
mean it really wasn't just the receivers. I mean the
ball placement was insane. He was dropping little tear ducks
in there. Aaron Rodgers was on fire. I still can't.
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Is this the weirdest that you've seen Aaron Rodgers in
a different uniform? Though, Like his body seems weird. It
seems weird to be, like, the whole thing just looks
different in a Steeler's uniform.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Hey, what did you think was up with this offensive
lineman like tackling him?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Oh? That was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Okay, So do you think that was just a klutzy
move by the offensive lineman or was that?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
What does you think there was anything else with that.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
I don't know what else would have been to it.
I mean I think the offensive lineman was just excited
and forgot that I weigh three hundred and eighteen pounds
and I up on my quarterbacks back, and he's like, hey,
I can't barely take a sack yet alone a blind
side hit from my own offensive tackle here.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Okay, so not friendly fire, just kind of a big
kletzy bear right there.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
What do you think he was trying to take him
out on purpose?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
It's a weird celebration, man, I mean, he's jumping on
his back, he's wrestling him down by the neck, he's
ripping off his helmet.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
You guys, if you guys had this, stop watching that
game though, And were you not thinking a little because
Joe Flacco spent a year here, were you not thinking?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Boy?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Were we so screwed up that we couldn't figure something way?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
We didn't have a single Joe Flacco game that looked
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
No, but Flacco let us know and is goodbye press
conference when he said, come on, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Not going for it?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Or three and six? And what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
How about he said, what was going on?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
How about Joe Flacco's zone read. There wasn't even his
own read. You know that he just totally improv that thing.
Joe Flacco, of all quarterbacks, gains I don't know, thirteen
yards on the zone read. He said that he just
saw that play breaking down. The defensive end was crashing
so hard. It wasn't it wasn't a call Zone Reid.
He just kept that Summer's gonna expect him to run.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
I know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I mean he's still new to the system and things
just didn't go on that play. And this is what
he said afterwards. You know, to me, when I've listened
to afterwards, you know what you got there. That's a
guy who just doesn't give a flip like whatever, man
Like there's no pressure. I don't think Joe Flacco was
feeling any pressure whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
But I did love the stories he talked about. Man.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
I was talking to my dad and my brothers this
week is you wouldn't believe the receivers these guys had.
You know, he was like tripping out how good those
guys were.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Twenty three targets to Jamar Chase twenty three.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Well, he had sixteen catches and then Tehaggins had nine catches.
You had you had twenty five catches, believe your top
two guys. And yet a couple of the big big
plays with that third receiver right number eight. Was it
eighty who had that one rate.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Down the middle? Washington? I mean he had had two
or three monster plays.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
For that guy eighties iOS via.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I know, man is Yo. That didn't look like a
two and four team, did it.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, the Bengals are now three and four. They do
get Joe Burrow back. That division is in shambles. I
wouldn't write the well, that wud be a hell of
a story. The Bengals can come back.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I mean, I'm not writing off the Steelers. I think
the Steelers are a day good football team and I
still think that they win that division. But you know,
this is exactly why they made the trade. Cincinnati just said, look,
all we need Joe Flacker to do is get us
the end of the season. If you could just keep
us in position here, we're gonna have a fighting chance
at it. Did you see the stat they had?
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I think Tomplin spoke at halftime when they did the
sideline interviews.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Whatever the little.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Stat they put down there and this was halftime, so
this before the game's over. Tomlin in his career Pittsburgh
is two and nine on the road on Thursday nights.
He's the great at coach. He's been never been below
five hundred. He is now two and ten on Thursday
nights on the road. That's an interesting betting stance. You'd
probably want write them if you're a gambler.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
All right, we're gonna catch up with the the the Avs,
the Nuggets have a useless game tonight and hopefully everybody
stays healthy.
Speaker 6 (40:17):
But we have to make a little bit of a decision.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Run.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Something's happening that we were joking about but now is
really happening. So we gotta we gotta figure that out
out and we'll have we'll go back to New York
as we Oh, we have a game, and we have
a game here today for you guys. You wait, nothing,
but we got a game. It's Giants football player or
Sopranos character. M Dan's never seen the Sopranos. What and
(40:41):
he's has he's had access to HBO and he's chosen
not to watch the Sopranos.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, you need to do that one Dan, I rewatched.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
I rewatched Game of Thrones instead, he.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Is, I'm thinking about doing that. You know what, I
should rewatch Game of Thrones. That that's one of those
like you pick up on so much more than second
time around.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
There you go, Dan, you got some help there. But
he's ignored the sopranos even though he's had access to HBO.
Didn't know the song, didn't know the intro.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Song, which is a great song. We'll hear it coming,
great song.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
I did bad take though.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
If you look down in a little small cap of
Broncals rushing, see they tied it into the running game.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh is that how you took it?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Look at the bottom script of it on the screen,
got red screenshot you said, was.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
My high city?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Different serious rushing yards?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
See they got it tight end with rushing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh that's how it's because it says season rushing yards there. Yeah, okay,
so a v C might still have some hope.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
No good, So you didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
That's why when I sent you back the response to
that picture, you're you're like, what the hell is he
talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Did you let right back?
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Hold on?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'll say.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So, you're a half step behind it, Scotty. I did notice.
For whatever it's.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Worth, the uninspired empower field game. Ops don't get creativity.
I just thought you thought, you know, the orange Rush
thing was was the rip off.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
They're tying into running. That's that's the cats. That's the cat,
that's the hook got. It's about the Orange Rush, is
about the past.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So there's still hope for the A B C. You know,
here's what it is. I did screw up a little
bit because the A B C that doesn't make sense.
What you need to say it's.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
The A B C D.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And then somebody else pointed out you really could say
the A B C D e F.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You know, I literally suggested that yesterday because that combines
d J. Jones in the.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Defense perfect idea?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
What is wrong with you? Now?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's a good idea, the A B C. It's your idea.
I'll give you credit for it. I don't want Tyler
has a great idea. No, I'm sorry Tyler's idea I
supported one thousand percent.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I apologize. I take it back, obviously, for I was
trying to improve your terrible nick name. But there's no
improving it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You've vastly improved it, so now it works.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I got maybe one way that if you want to
try to salvage it a little bit. Dan has a
little for you.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's always a collaborative.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I still want to call it the wed again.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
The ABC Little Michael Jackson, I'd say, you're making it
even better. Always be closing. It's simple like ABE like
one two three, ABC one two three, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You and me. Oh there you go. Then we're on
the tame page.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You're throwing a nick Bonito sound sack right here.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Is this another great idea from you?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Terrible idea for me? I'm just a music man.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, Tyler had the better idea.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Anyways, Tyler, Tyler tried to improve a terrible idea.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And you did significantly to the degree that I think
we could call it Tyler's idea.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So what you're saying is when Dan didn't highlights yesterday,
he should have put this song under the highlights.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That would have actually been pretty awesome. And now the
ABC D when they when they take their photo of
Alan Beandino and Cooper, they can be dressed up like
the Jackson five bell bottoms and the big FROs suits
and the frow the hats and the one guy's on bass,
the other guys you know, know, was Tito your favorite Jackson?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
No, I just all I know is Tito, Jermaine, Randy, Michael, Tito.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Here's a hand, hank, Jeef. Here you go, Tito.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I don't remember all of them.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Jermaine, Michael, Tito, Willie, Fred, Bill, Bill, Janned, LaToya, Suirley,
Janet and Janet. Janna is in there too. So all
(04:35):
we need now, Dan, See, it gets better and better.
Some some you know, football, and some Tyler's idea. Tyler's idea.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Don't you put that on me, Ricky Bobby. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I couldn't. I couldn't get it over the Finish Life.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
But I want nothing to do with this terrible, terrible dick.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Tyler was there, like in his underwear, just like Ricky
Bobby running over the Finish Show.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You could have brought an ugly date to the prom
and Tyler's gonna put some just.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Put a little bakeup, which is but she's still ugly.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, but now she's your date.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's a good one. Okay, that's a good that's a
good one.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
See it's catching some fire. I didn't even catch the
rushing thing. I apologize for that, but you're right, So
we'll see where it goes. You guys, feeling good about
the game or where's your head's at here?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Today?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Harry the Morning Show is super cocky about this game, Like, Wow,
I'm really.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Good about the game all week long, I really have.
I mean part of it's because I'm tossing the Jets
game out. I'm just making an anomaly and we're about
to find out whether that thing was the real deal
or not, because you're going up against another relatively uh
not very good football team, put it that way, and
so yeah, I think the Broncos are going to handle it.
What's the spread? What's the spread?
Speaker 6 (05:52):
I don't know, I would guess.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I'm gonna guess six and a half. I'm gonna say
four and a half.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Let's see which I was pretty No, it's it's gotta
be more than four and a half. It is seven
and a half down and a half. How about that?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, that's a bigger spread than last week against the Jets.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
There they'll cover the spread.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Wow, I'm glad. I'm glad you're feeling so good about it.
I'm not so I got them winning by four, and
I'm just gonna stick to that and low scoring too,
something like twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
But hey, am I, I'll welcome to it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, twenty four to thirteen Devin Broncos.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That'd be awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm waiting for the offense to click. It took a
little time last year, whatever that means, and wherever they
got to get to, but it's got to get better.
I still throw the idea at you're not gonna win
a lot more games this year. If you're only scoring
thirteen points. I'm not sure you're gonna win this game.
If you only score thirteen.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Points last game of the season, that you might be
able to do it, though, last what this might be
the last game of the season that you could win
by scoring thirteen I mean might be, might might be.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I fear the special team's return coverage is gonna let
you down on this one.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I just think your offense has got to start proposed
getting better. I'm going to show you this comparison. I
thought about this Texan Andy late in their show, right
before they go off.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Of four thirty.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
House hockey.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That was a fun game to watch. If this offense
doesn't step up and it becomes give me a spectator
type of an offense for the next year or two.
Can you relate that to what we've seen the last
two years with the Nuggets, with what they put around
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n Kola Jokic, Because is this defense not if you
go back what you said and when Nate said earlier
this week that this defense is primo and and and
super special. If you don't give some to a sentuated
that actually puts points on the board, are you wasting
a great defense?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, we said, if you could just have average offensive play,
you'll probably win nine or ten game. Right If you
get above average off you get.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
To the playoffs and like in the NBA and maybe
maybe get the Sega round, maybe not get the seground.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Get above average, you might have a chance of winning
eleven something like that. You know, right now we don't
have average right now. It's ugly. So Bode's got to
get better. The offense has got to get better. Sean
Payton's got to get better. The whole deal's got to
get better on offense.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Zach Seegers, good dude, retreated this guy. Matt Williamson. You
know those charts that show yo kics just like like
you know, whatever the x Y charts are and he's
just offense.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Now he's now to the point where I watched a
Bill Simmons with one of the other big national rioder speakers,
espn Ors.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
He's now on national broadcast. I mean, he has topics
on major podcasts around the country, which I think when
you when you start doing stuff like that in today's
you're now there, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Oh he's so there. And in that chart, well, look
at where the Broncos defense is. Maybe can see and
that's small, I know, but I.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Just show it to you.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They're they're they're Jokic land, you know what I'm saying.
Like there it's pass rush to sack ratio and they're
the I mean, they're in a land by themselves.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
There's nobody.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So it's a good comparison to say they're playing right
now kind of what Nicola has been the last few years.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, the the disparity, the difference between their pass rush
to sack ratio, it's in a different universe than the
rest of the teams in the league. It's uncommon. So
that's historic. You know when you talk about, like Patser
Tan said, we're gonna have a historic defense, Well, you
gotta have something to back it up.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Well, here you go. I mean, if that stays up
and this is what Nicola has had for the past
few years.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well defensive field themselves. I mean we're taking shots at
the Giants fan base, where we're taking shots at Jackson Dart.
I mean, we're providing bolt to board material and you
know what, I'm down for it. I am. I don't.
I don't think these boys have to shy away from
being good like this to me is not like the
same thing as Sean Payton spouting off before the season
about how good his team is. Our defense, Like they're
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they're feeling themselves because they're they're doing it well. We're
actually out there doing their things.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Well to the specifics of it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's Jonathan Cooper, it's Nick Benido, it's I think Thibodeaux
on their side. Yeah, there's a little uh, Dark responded
Jackson Dark responded in a snarky way. We got a
little something something going on. We got a little uh.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
For game seven of a seventeen game series against an
Eastern Conference team. Yeah, in the Western Conference team in
NFC AFC. This shouldn't have this shouldn't be anything about Biltimore.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
With with all with all proper respects in Aid and
Andy and their jazz flutes and twitter beefs. We got
some of that. We got some of that. We'll we'll
show you what it is coming up next.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
What do you think of the Broncos players being suspissive
of you.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Guys and your fanbase.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Yeah, I just say this the that's a really good
football team.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Note that really matters.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
What matters is how you perform during the week and
how you play on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Pat.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
As you know, again, we're in a competitive industry, an
emotional industry. But the most important thing is doing your
job leading up to Sunday and then ultimately going out
there and playing well on Sunday, making tackles, taking care
of the football, communicating well in a loud environment, being
productive on early downs, trying to stay out of third
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and long, trying to get them into third and long,
playing good on special teams, tackling mems that those are
the things that matter.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Okay, boy, talk about this coming out of nowhere. Great
Jersey Bend, by the way, that's Jersey Ben Bon Jovie.
Better Jersey Ben than Springsteen.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Okay, Bob Poppa, who's been the voice of the Giants
Forever will join us in eight minutes so we can
get toad Greg.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
That is a great question.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's an unusual last name, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I don't know. I did a hit with them another
day and on my phone, I got a call from
a New York area code right and it says New
York Giants on my phone and I was like, oh,
I better answer this one. Maybe they're calling me to
get come out of retirement on this sucker. And I
really cause that used to be like the rush, Like
when when you'd be a free agent or whatever and
all of a sudden you look at your phone and
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you see a team is calling you. It says their name.
You're like, oh, yes, here we go. Man. It gave
me a quick flashback.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It wasn't that though. They weren't asking to play.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I just want me to talk.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So I guess it all started with Jonathan Cooper.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I mean he's a young, young guy. He's you know,
feeling himself a little bit. He's out there running around,
he's got the chain on, he's dancing. You know.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I feel like everybody needs something.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
But we've went against QB's who have ran around in
the pocket and have, you know, try to do stuff
with their legs.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So it ain't nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
We haven't seen game, so asked about it yesterday Jackson
and Darko's quote. I think a lot of guys wear
chains and dance when they score touchdowns. I appreciate him
following my touchdowns, my dance touchdowns. Abdul Carter Rookie tweeted,
put your three D glasses on, and response to Jonathan
Cooper's remark, then uh, Cavon Thibodeaux tweeted, this is all
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on Twitter last night, by the way, hold on what
I miss?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Then he responded to that. I don't have the exact quote,
but he responded to that. And you know, I think
I think Nick Bonito put something out there and deleted
it like it was a it was a whole thing
going on there.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So who shot the first fire across the.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I guess it was Jonathan Cooper?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
We did.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, listen, you shoot one across the bow, you'll be
ready to swing over and get on the first boarding
party getting on the ship.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I actually think this team needs something like that right now.
Like we're trying to figure ourselves out. Our defense has
got plenty of reasons to be confident. Okay, talk a
little trash. Now, go out there and back it up.
No big deal. I mean it is going to be
BOLTI board material any game in which there was about
zero chances of there being BOLTI board material. But I'm down.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, and Benino was quote I've never seen such delusional
fan base.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
But this was in response because the Giants fans have
been getting all over Cooper for saying what he said.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yep, yeah, what does put your three D glasses on me?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
You can see better?
Speaker 6 (14:27):
I guess what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Like you can see better?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, so you don't understand what you're saying. Put you
put your.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You're looking at this better? I would assume, right, Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Hi, And actually, if you look at the quote, he's
a young guy. He's feeling himself a little bit. He's
out there running around, he's got the chain on, he's dancing.
I feel like everybody needs something.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know. What's so bad about that?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, it's kind of the tone, the dismissive tone of like,
you know, yeah, you're you're a cute little team, but
you know, wait till wait, wait until you see mom
and dad come home. As Cooper and Benito are back
to back Defensive Players of the Week in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Hey, twenty fifteen defense wasn't shy about talking trash.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
True, trash talk matter before games, can it?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I don't really think so, to be honest, I don't know.
I mean, have you ever prepared more or less for
a basketball game, scop because somebody said something like maybe
maybe a little personal battles. It gives you a little
extra ambition to go out there and perform a little
bit better. But I don't know, man, I mean, a
football game is a football game. They're all tough. You
prepared the same way for them all.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
On one hand, you're like, thinking, as I said a
w ago, you've got an NFC team, an AFC team,
two different divisions, both young quarterbacks, one second year, one's
a rookie. Okay, you know, maybe some paths work in
the same direction. Hey, You're like, why is there any
beef at all? I mean, there shouldn't be any beef
at all? You don't We won't see these guys again
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for three years, right, four years? And yet with social
media and what it is, I'm surprised there hasn't been
more beef every single week in the NFL. Jonathan Cooper
is saying the same thing I've been saying all week long, like, yeah,
Camp's kataboo, Like we gets cool man, but he ain't
all that.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
He ain't that good. Like he's gonna run through a
tackle or two, but we're not exactly terrified of Camp's kataboo.
Jackson Dart, Okay, the dude's got good feet. Yep, he's
got really good feet, and he's gonna run around. He's
gonna pick up two or three first downs with his feet.
You know who we've already played this year. We played
justin Fields, We played Jalen Hurts. Contained those guys pretty well,
didn't we.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, I mean the Broncos are definitely.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But when you're a team that's.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Trying to figure themselves out in your animal House, yeah,
you know you're getting ready to wreck the parade and
what they want to do. We are now at the
last scene of the movie and some of the Animal
House are trying to wreck the homecoming parade.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And useless gesture is how it was put in the movie.
And who's better to serve up a feudal and useless
gesture than us? So there was nothing about wrecking the
parade that changed anything. It was a feudal and useless gesture.
That you led the band into an alley so the
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trombone smashed into a wall, and that you knock down
the stands where the mayor was with Dean Warmer, and
that you took Dean Warmer's wife home apparently, which happened
in the movie. It didn't matter, didn't change anything. It
was a feudile, feudile and useless gesture.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Which is what this could be.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Which maybe this is what the Giant Season really is.
In all honesty, maybe.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
They should have told Jackson Dart and Camp's kataboo that
drunken stupid's no way to go through life. That's right.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
You just hope that they don't come out and ball
and get up fourteen to nothing. Then Seam Payton's over
on the sidelight, going.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Stay come all this world.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Because the golf ball may end up in the soup,
and then a food fight starts, and then you know,
I keep to leaves on the field, snatching a chain
away from Jackson Dart.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I'll say this, see Tyler Grease if this is real
and this just isn't you know, modern day Twitter battles
and everybody. I mean, you can find a Twitter battle
if you search hard enough every single day or or
ten or one hundred. But if it gets chippy real early,
like in the first five or six minutes, you start
seeing some chippiness, then maybe these guys took it more seriously.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
We thought, all right, cool, I mean, that'll be fun.
I think that'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm hoping Nate Andy puts some jazz flute to it
later this afternoon and put their spin on it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
That's what they do. That's a great pit that they do.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They take Twitter beets and they put the jazz flute
from like Anchorman or something underneath it, and they just
go through the Twitter beefs.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
It's hysterical.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I don't know. These boys got me feeling a little
bit more confident too. Giants aren't scoring one of the
fourteen points in this game.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, we all got the Broncos winning this one. I
guess it just depends what the margin is. We'll talk
to Bob Papa.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Good question.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
In just a second, it's time for the Injury Report,
powered by Ramo's Law, the official law firm Injury law
firm partner of the Denver Broncos yesterday. The only person
that did not participate was Jonah Ellis Drake Greenlaw, according
to VJ, like a pitch count sort of thing. That's
what VJ was more or less saying, maybe not just
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for this week, but for the next couple of weeks.
So I think Greenlaw could go just like we've been speculating,
but they're gonna be careful with it.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Is the last time he practiced the first practice, dual practice,
that was here in Denver.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Then we have a dual practice of day.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
He came back after that a little bit and then
reaggravated again. He reaggravated it twice, but he actually played
in that little scrammy. He did practice. Yeah, Yeah, you're right.
The next he did participate in that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Bob Papa from the Voice of the Giants and Serious
Radio joins us, Hey, Bob, thank you for being on
with us. Yeah, we look at the Giants right now.
We're we've been calling them Delta House like animal House
recently for the past couple of weeks because we got
cam Skataboos, Blueto zero point zero and Jackson Dart is
the president of the fraternity how do you guys like
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that comparison? Can you take that as a compliment or
is that an insult?
Speaker 8 (20:30):
I think considering what the Giants have been like basically
over the last decade, with the exception of twenty sixteen,
in twenty twenty two, I think any description is a
good description at this point.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
What what all?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Give us what's the vibe there? Especially with Dart and Skataboo.
I guess that's the the I mean, that's got to
be These are the star Yeah. I guess you got
other good players too, obviously, but those those who have
everybody's attention, well.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
I mean they've energized a Dorman football team, right. I mean,
you watch the Sunday night football game against the Chiefs.
It was a gettable game at MetLife Stadium, and then
Russell Wilson is throwing the ball out of the back
of the end zone goal. Yeah, I mean, and listen,
Russell Wilson was a great player, you know, for a
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long time in this league. But Father Time is undefeated
unless you're Tom Brady or Joe Flacco. But you know,
it's one of those situations where you look at it
and you just say, hey, it was time to inject
a little life. And Jackson Dart has been a very
robust figure around the team since the minute they drafted him.
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He had that personality at Old Miss. A lot of
people said he had that pied piper where all of
his teammates, not just the guys on offense but defense,
gravitated toward whatever that it is that he has. And look,
the results are pretty good.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
When they played the Chargers in Week four, the Chargers
were three and oh they had three division wins. People,
you know, they had that incredible win against the Broncos
and everyone was talking about, hey, the Chargers are one
of the better teams in the league. And the Giants
never trailed. They beat them wire to wire. Then they
turned it over five straight times in New Orleans and
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lost to a winless team, and then in primetime they
beat the Super Bowl champions. And Dart and Scataboo have
a lot to do with that, not only with the
energy that they bring, but they're pretty good players too.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Bob, I respect the hell out of camps Kataboo. I mean,
he's so much fun to watch. It's just like that's football, right,
That's the way the football is supposed to be. Played,
and I hate to add to the bulletin board material
that's going on this week, but I'm just not convinced
he's that good. I'm not convinced that Jackson Dart is
that good. They're like energizer bunnies that have provided a
spark plug. But tell me why I'm wrong or do
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you disagree with me on that. I just can't tell
how good these guys are or if they're just period of.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Well. I mean, Skataboo was pretty good last year at
Arizona State. I think the thing that everybody misses about
Skataboo is and you'll, hopefully you'll get a chance to
see this a little on display on Sunday or maybe
if you're rooting for the Broncos you won't. But he's
got a lot better vision than people think, and he's
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a lot shiftier than people think. And in the open field,
he's a lot faster than people think.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Like he's a pretty.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Darn good back. Now. Am I saying he's Jonathan Taylor
or Bijon Robinson. No, he's not. Or Saquon Barkley or
Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
No.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
But I think he's got above average skills as far
as being a runner in the National Football League, and
everybody falls in love with the battering ram and all
that other stuff and him fighting for extra yardage, But
take a look at sometimes how he gets to that spot,
when he gets to that second level. He's a little
shiftier than people think. And look Jackson Dart. I mean
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the Giants took them in the first round. There were
some other teams that really liked them. That's why the
Giants traded back into the first round to take them.
All I know is this, He's one of only three
quarterbacks in the history of the NFL to have over
fifty yards rushing in his first three career starts, Jalen
Hurts and Lamar Jackson. And since nineteen seventy eight, there's
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been only two quarterbacks that have led their team on
an opening drive touchdown in their first three starts, Jackson
Dart and Patrick Mahomes. And that's going back to nineteen
seventy eight. So I think it's a little bit more
than energy. I think it's his ability to use his
legs extend plays on Hey, if you watch that Eagle
game the other night, if Russell Wilson's in there, the
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Eagles have seven sacks, and he's able to make you know,
one of the things that he does well, which bo
Nix did very well last year, is when they're on
the move, their eyes remained downfield to make plays. And
I think Jackson Dart will just continue to get better
and better as a player. And you know, obviously the
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energy brings is one thing, but he's also not a dummy.
I mean, he's he's a student of the game. He's
been well coached by the likes of Lane Kiffen and
Charlie Weis Junior, and I think he's just in the
right spot at the right time.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And Bobby, you've talked about it too.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
In the tough years that the Giants have had, and
we've talked about our show, we went an eight year,
you know, drought trying to figureut how to get even
to the playoffs. You get a quarterback, you're young, you
may overdraft a little bit, who knows, but in this
league right now, you're really not going anywhere if you
can't find a young quarterback that can hopefully turned into
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a franchise guy for you to really change your fortunes
for the league. And you guys are hoping that's Jackson Dart,
like Denver is hoping that it's bow Knicks.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Exactly.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
I mean, you know, the Giants thought they might have
had that in Daniel Jones, and look, he had an
unbelievable rookie season. Pat Shermer was his head coach. Pat
Shermer gets fired. Mike Shuley was the OC. He gets fired.
Then Joe Judge comes in and a new offensive coordinator,
and then the offensive coordinator gets fired, and then a
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new general manager comes in and a new head coach
and another new offensive coordinator comes in. Like it's hard
for a quarterback to develop. And you know with Sean
Payton there in Denver and bow Nicks, you know you
have the opportunity there to develop this guy and maybe
take a guy that's a seventy to thirty chance of
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being a top line player and increasing the odds even
higher by having continuity and a legitimate guy. And the
Giants are hoping that, you know, Jackson Dart with Brian
Dable can be that recipe where they can build upon
what they're doing right now as he gets and hopefully
he gets better and better. All I know is this
the last three games since he started, they're averaging one
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hundred and fifty six yards rushing a game. They're hitting
their third downs at fifty one percent, and they've scored
seven of their nine red zone touchdowns since Start was
put in the starting lineup. And again, it's against the Chargers,
it's against I know, the Saints, and it's against the
defending Super Bowl champions. So it's not like he got
to play Tennessee three straight games. I mean it's against
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a couple of good teams that he's done that against.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
How are you feeling about the offensive line of the
Giants in terms of pass protection going against the Broncos, D.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
Man, it's gonna be brutal. I mean, look, since Andrew
Thomas got back and healthy after his foot injury, the
offensive line has been a lot better because you don't
always have to help your left tackle and you can
play it a little more straight up. To me, it
comes down to will the Giants be able to run
the ball effectively enough on first down? Or short pass
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game to the backs to the tight ends try to
get you know, if you can get four and a
half yards on first down, all right, Now you stay
on schedule, and now the playbook's.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Open to you.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
But if they get behind the chains, I don't know
how you hold off that pass rush because it's not
one guy, right, It's not like when you're going against
the Cowboys and it's just Micah Parsons. It's across the board,
it's interior, it's the two edge rushers, it's the inside backers,
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and even the safety's got a sack. So like, everybody
joins the party. And if the Giants are playing in
second and nine and third and eight sol game, it's
going to be a long day if you is it?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well said?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, and especially you're talking about a young quarterback now,
not only the third lungs against the defense and stuff.
Now you're talking about a young guy. How quick under
Duresk can you actually pick and choose and find the guys?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
You know?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
By the way, you still got two pretty good corners
that if you do go man to man, pretty good
man to man players.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I was reading here, Bob, this is the biggest Giants
game since they went to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Is this the biggest Giants game since then? The biggest
test they've had, the biggest spotlight on the Giants?
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Oh no, no, okay, I would disagree with that. I mean,
the biggest one was last Thursday Night since Plaxico Burris
shot himself in the leg in two thousand and eight,
when the Giants were the dominant team in the NFL,
they were the defending Super Bowl champs, they were ten
and one or whatever. They beat the heck out of
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the Steelers in Pittsburgh, they beat out, they were beating everybody.
He shot himself in the leg. He was the matchup
problem for the Eagles since Donovan McNabb and the Eagles
went into Giants Stadium in the divisional playoff round and
beat the Giants that day when the Giants with the
number one seed. The Eagles had beaten the Giants twenty
seven out of thirty four games. Well, I mean it
(29:57):
has been like they have owned the Giants. So last
Thursday night in prime time, you know the Giants in
twenty eighteen, before that game, we're three and twenty in
primetime games. Like to go out there and beat the
defending Super Bowl champion Eagles, that was the biggest game.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Now this is big.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
This one has become big because of what they've done
in two of their last three. But as far as
the Giant fan base and the Eagles and the division
and the hatred that was second to none.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
I mean, you know, if you're there every day, you know,
you see what you see, and you know and you
know what you know. And I understand the career numbers.
I mean, when you start looking at numbers, that doesn't
always tell the complete story about what a guy meant
for a team and a franchise. But like I tried
(31:00):
to tell the people on the Giant social media department
when he was up for the first time, I'm like, dude,
he's not getting in. It's going to take him a
few years, and there's going to be some guys like
Drew Brees that there jumped the line, guys that the
first year of eligibility, their numbers are so off the charts,
they're going to get in ahead of them. You know, Listen.
(31:21):
I'm good friends with Shannon Sharp. I was in his
hotel room with he and his brother the first year
that Shannon was eligible to get into the Hall of Fame.
And I think at the time that he retired, he
had the most receiving yards and receptions of any tight
end in the history of the sport. Yeah, he didn't
get in in his first ballot straighthand didn't get in
(31:43):
his first ballot. And I said, you know, it's not
Eli's fault that the general manager in the organization failed him,
because he was thirty two when they handed him a
second Lombardi Trophy, and then they just neglected the offensive line.
They drafted horribly and the thing was a mess. It
wasn't his fall. But the record is the record. So
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it's gonna take Eli a few years to get in,
but I think eventually he's going to get in as
more time goes by.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
All Right, well, Bob, enjoy your your visit here to
uh to our city. It is the ten year union.
Tyler was on the team of the Super Bowl fifty champions.
They have one hundred and forty alumni forty or so
players from the team, including the No Fly Zone. So
here in here in Denver, the juice for this one
(32:31):
is pretty high. I gotta be honest with you. It's
a it's a big one in terms of the excitement
for this game.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a it's an unbelievable history
and uh, it's it's it's pretty cool to be able
to be there, to see it, because I think that's
that's going to be pretty special. Those were some great teams,
and like, you know, I'm really in like all the
Hall of Fame stuff and the voting and everything, and
(32:57):
is it not just absolutely in urse to the Pro
Football Hall of Fame that Mike Shanahan is not in.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Thank you? Yep, you're right. We talked about it every year.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
With all due respect to Don Coriel, who I know
there's a lot of lobbying that goes in with former
players and stuff. But you please tell me how Don
Coriel could be in the Hall of Fame before Mike Shanahan,
before Tom Coughlin, before Dan Reeves. Please please explain that
to me.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Well, Bob, we're gonna welcome you with open arms, all
right there. That's the way to butter yourself up to right.
There's no doubt about it. We appreciate your time, man,
We got it. We're not disagreeing with you, We got it.
Thank you, Bob, appreciate it all right. Guys, there you go,
Bob Papa, he's been doing that a long time. Good argument, man,
right there. Yeah, I don't think they're quite sure they
(33:47):
like it, though. I think that's the vibe. They don't know,
they don't know if this is all for real, but
but they've been starved for any kind of excitement with
that team for a long time.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
But it so were we last year, aren't they kind
of yes, on a parallel track to what we last year?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Did we find something? Is this gonna be real? Do
you realize how lucky the Giants are right now that
they've got Jackson Dart for their fan base. With what
Daniel Jones is doing in in Indianapolis? Yeah, I mean,
can you imagine if they didn't have hope from Jackson
Dart they got to watch Daniel Jones do that? All right?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
We have more on the Broncos than the Giants as
we rolled nice win by the Avs last night.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
It's PhD on ninety five, but.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Brow Haggans in shine, the ten Hagens from the end
zone and a ccinnati lead.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Call it what you want, the icy hot boll, Jarret's all.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Ball, dude. The Electricity Bowl, Great Game.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
Bowl, unbelievable game, unbelievable game.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
How freaking cool was that it was?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Every part of it was amazing to the degree where
I was like, hey man, this is the end of
the Joe Flacco movie. You might as well just walk
off into the sunset, like I'm not exactly sure how
it gets any better than this. Right now, you in
a Bengals outfit with Bengals fans chinning, thank you Cleveland.
(35:13):
As you're talking about how like play calls were like,
I don't know, so I'll just run with it. That's
what he said, like something was supposed to happen, and
then he was like whatever, I'll just go and it
was amazing. Well, you lead your team, this new team,
to a comeback, and then t Higgins screws me over
in fantasy football by not running in.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
We do right, put a smart play.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Smart play screwed us over in fantasy Dude, if we
lose our fantasy games by like six points, I'm gonna
be pissed.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But dude, I was like, going, it's and the ward.
I watch it and then he slides down.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
I'm like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
And then she goes, why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I go, well, it's a smart place.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
They know they're gonna get the field goal to win
the game. They have two timeouts and it would have
been like a minute thirty nine. You probably don't want
to get Aaron Rodgers a minute thirty nine and two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, he didn't need a ben at thirty.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Can I give you something else too, which is wild?
His hail Mary throw Rodgers seventy yards the longest air
yard throw in the NFL this year?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah? Yeah, forty one years old. I mean, you just
watched two guys go out there and play nearly perfect football.
I mean, gif Joe Flacco a couple of wide receivers,
and all of a sudden, the dude looks unbelievable. I
mean it really wasn't just the receivers. I mean the
ball placement was insane. He was dropping little tear ducks
in there. Aaron Rodgers was on fire. I still can't.
(36:30):
Is this the weirdest that you've seen Aaron Rodgers in
a different uniform? Though, Like his body seems weird. It
seems weird to be, like, the whole thing just looks
different in a Steeler's uniform.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Hey, what did you think was up with this offensive
lineman like tackling him?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Oh? That was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Okay, So do you think that was just a klutzy
move by the offensive lineman or was that?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
What does you think there was anything else with that.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
I don't know what else would have been to it.
I mean I think the offensive lineman was just excited
and forgot that I weigh three hundred and eighteen pounds
and I up on my quarterbacks back, and he's like, hey,
I can't barely take a sack yet alone a blind
side hit from my own offensive tackle here.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Okay, so not friendly fire, just kind of a big
kletzy bear right there.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
What do you think he was trying to take him
out on purpose?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
It's a weird celebration, man, I mean, he's jumping on
his back, he's wrestling him down by the neck, he's
ripping off his helmet.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
You guys, if you guys had this, stop watching that
game though, And were you not thinking a little because
Joe Flacco spent a year here, were you not thinking?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Boy?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Were we so screwed up that we couldn't figure something way?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
We didn't have a single Joe Flacco game that looked
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
No, but Flacco let us know and is goodbye press
conference when he said, come on, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Not going for it?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Or three and six? And what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
How about he said, what was going on?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
How about Joe Flacco's zone read. There wasn't even his
own read. You know that he just totally improv that thing.
Joe Flacco, of all quarterbacks, gains I don't know, thirteen
yards on the zone read. He said that he just
saw that play breaking down. The defensive end was crashing
so hard. It wasn't it wasn't a call Zone Reid.
He just kept that Summer's gonna expect him to run.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
I know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I mean he's still new to the system and things
just didn't go on that play. And this is what
he said afterwards. You know, to me, when I've listened
to afterwards, you know what you got there. That's a
guy who just doesn't give a flip like whatever, man
Like there's no pressure. I don't think Joe Flacco was
feeling any pressure whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
But I did love the stories he talked about. Man.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
I was talking to my dad and my brothers this
week is you wouldn't believe the receivers these guys had.
You know, he was like tripping out how good those
guys were.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Twenty three targets to Jamar Chase twenty three.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Well, he had sixteen catches and then Tehaggins had nine catches.
You had you had twenty five catches, believe your top
two guys. And yet a couple of the big big
plays with that third receiver right number eight. Was it
eighty who had that one rate.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Down the middle? Washington? I mean he had had two
or three monster plays.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
For that guy eighties iOS via.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I know, man is Yo. That didn't look like a
two and four team, did it.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, the Bengals are now three and four. They do
get Joe Burrow back. That division is in shambles. I
wouldn't write the well, that wud be a hell of
a story. The Bengals can come back.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I mean, I'm not writing off the Steelers. I think
the Steelers are a day good football team and I
still think that they win that division. But you know,
this is exactly why they made the trade. Cincinnati just said, look,
all we need Joe Flacker to do is get us
the end of the season. If you could just keep
us in position here, we're gonna have a fighting chance
at it. Did you see the stat they had?
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I think Tomplin spoke at halftime when they did the
sideline interviews.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Whatever the little.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Stat they put down there and this was halftime, so
this before the game's over. Tomlin in his career Pittsburgh
is two and nine on the road on Thursday nights.
He's the great at coach. He's been never been below
five hundred. He is now two and ten on Thursday
nights on the road. That's an interesting betting stance. You'd
probably want write them if you're a gambler.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
All right, we're gonna catch up with the the the Avs,
the Nuggets have a useless game tonight and hopefully everybody
stays healthy.
Speaker 6 (40:17):
But we have to make a little bit of a decision.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Run.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Something's happening that we were joking about but now is
really happening. So we gotta we gotta figure that out
out and we'll have we'll go back to New York
as we Oh, we have a game, and we have
a game here today for you guys. You wait, nothing,
but we got a game. It's Giants football player or
Sopranos character. M Dan's never seen the Sopranos. What and
(40:41):
he's has he's had access to HBO and he's chosen
not to watch the Sopranos.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, you need to do that one Dan, I rewatched.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
I rewatched Game of Thrones instead, he.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Is, I'm thinking about doing that. You know what, I
should rewatch Game of Thrones. That that's one of those
like you pick up on so much more than second
time around.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
There you go, Dan, you got some help there. But
he's ignored the sopranos even though he's had access to HBO.
Didn't know the song, didn't know the intro.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Song, which is a great song. We'll hear it coming,
great song.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
High school Football and Altitude Sports Radio continues tonight. Justin
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