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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, hey, that was awesome. Can't you see Alan DJ
Jones Blenido Cooper dress up as the Jackson five the
abc D.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
There's that? Only four?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, well you just that's the four guys. I mean,
how many guys you want in the Jackson five? I
mean you put one more in there if you want six,
sure they can all dress up like the Jackson five.
But it's the abc D. Dude, come on, we get
the music, you get the highlights.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Why's JFM getting slided in there?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, you know you can be Tito with the bass guitar. Dude,
come on now.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
How about PS two?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I don't know how many Again.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
The thing is is he's been dead serious when he
says it.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I think it's funny as hell and will look cool
and it is cool. Always be closing the abc D.
It's been twenty four hours. Listen. I get it Orange Rush,
which they're putting down at the stadium. But you say
that's about the running game, which has actually been good,
But all right, I call that the running Game, the
Orange Rush. I like that, and we call this the
ABC D.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Can we just give up on this?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Dan putting music in highlights together? I'm sorry it sounds
because Dan has to say yes, sir, I think that
sounds awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Dan, what like our new podcast studio?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I think it sounds amazing. I'm sorry you're gonna have
to spend ten minutes somewhere else, Dring.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
We all voted it down three out of the four.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Then you guys win. You guys, you know, we don't
now what it's fantastic. I don't know where you're gonna
spend another ten minutes of your day. I mean, I
don't know how you're possibly going to adjust, but we'll
see what a how obstacles you know, overcome that. The
Broncos final score this game will be what.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Twenty three fourteen Denver Broncos, twenty four to thirteen Denver Broncos.
I'm gonna stick to keeping New York under fourteen points, Scott.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I either want to go twenty sixteen or twenty four sixteen.
I think I think they hold them under seventeen.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Though, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
And if you don't hold them under seventeen. You may lose.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I got twenty sixteen. I'm a little bit more nervous.
I think I'm more nervous about this game than you guys.
It sounds like you got.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
A touchdown in three field goals. That's why I was.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know why, I'll tell you. I'll tell you why.
I do not trust Darren Rizzy and our kickoff return coverage.
I do not think they're going to kick it through
the end zone. I think they should.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
That's what we're paanicking about.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Back off.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's where I think they're gonna get field position where
they shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Do they have at I'm actually not bocking, but I'm
just trying to follow your lot. Do they have some
phenomenal kickoff return game or something?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Gunner Oswaski horse Laski is one of these you know dudes.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Right averaging like returning the ball to the forty five.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I mean they're decent. They're okay, Oh here we are
there kickoff return. Kickoff return third in the league. Oh no, no,
I'm sorry, that's their that's their coverage. My bad, that's
their coverage. Their their kickoff return. Oh, fifth in the league.
They are fifth in the league in return and in

(03:48):
coverage their third in the league.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
So there's first stakes. Pretty good.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
What what is dim return? We're thirteenth in terms of
returning at thirteenth, and we're dead last in terms of coverage.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's a big discrepancy, dead last. That could lead to
some field goals.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Rizzy was given all sorts of excuses yesterday. Uh, you know,
we've we've returned, we've covered more than ever. It's only
been two big returns. But it's only six games. Dude, Like,
I'm not impressed with Darren Rizzy so far. I don't
know how you guys feel about it, but he said,
by far, he said, by far, the weakest part of
our special teams right now is kickoff coverage. And yeah, okay, fine,

(04:28):
like you average this, but you also give up fifty
and seventy two yarders, which means to me, as great
as the defense could play, you're just gonna give up
field goals, probably a couple if you can't return, if
you can't cover, so to me, I just kick it
through the end zone. That is not the right way
to handle things, because if you can actually cover kicks
the right way, you certainly will keep your importent be

(04:49):
behind the thirty yards.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
If you've noticed, it seems around the league the last
two or three weeks, compared to the first two or
three weeks, coverage has gotten better. You're not seeing these
thirty five thirty for thirty three. You're seeing in the
twenties now more often than not.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I don't trust him. Here's what I don't trust right now.
I don't trust our coverage on special teams.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
But you just you just signed one one special team guy,
and one special team guy's was supposed to change you.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Is and he'll tell you J T. Gray is the
best coverage special teamer ever in the invention of football.
That's literally what he said about this guy, JT. Gray.
How he became available, I don't know, but guess what
he used to play with them in New Orleans. I
know what a shock surprise. Hey, I hope this guy
is great. And it gives every indication they're not going
to kick it through the end zone. They're gonna try

(05:35):
to cover these times.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
You play special teams at a time or two in
your career barely.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I mean, wait, my rookie year I was on kickoff
return with we had the old school wedge and I
was just there to take a concussion and uh, great job. Yeah, yeah,
just you know there's four guys. Guy, left eye blink
when you said that. Yeah, I did so. I did
that my rookie year. And then I mean, you know,
field goal Pat.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's it. That's how I got them having sixteen, I
got it. I got some sort of screw up. I
got a touchdown because you know when games, you get
a touchdown, I mean it happens, shizzle happens, and the
way things go, I think they'll get a couple more,
but only one. So I got sixteen points and twenty
for the Broncos. I just figured at some point this
defense is gonna get a takeaway or two. Right.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm just not buying the Jackson Dark Campscataboo deal. I'm
just not buying it. So, you know, maybe they'll surprise me.
Maybe I'll have to come on air on Monday and
need some crow on this thing. But I'm not buying
that these guys are actually that good. I think that
they've just been fun to watch. They're like a little
energizer buddy. They go out there, they do their little dances.
The crowds go nuts for him. Cam's gonna run over

(06:42):
three or four guys. But guess what, When you run
over three or four guys at home, that creates some energy.
Run over three or four guys on the road, it
doesn't create as much energy because now the crowd's not
getting behind you. So I don't think these guys are
gonna be anything that is going to be terrifying. They
haven't gone up against a defense like this. If they
score more than thirteen, fourteen points, I'll be surprised.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
We all have wins. Though. Listen, if they turn it
over five times like they did the Saints, they're gonna
lose by thirty. Yeah, obviously, so that happened too to
this team. That too happened with Skataboo and Jackson Dart too.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
A winless we will I mean, if we turn the
ball over five times, we'll lose by thirty.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Probably. I mean the Eagles turned it over. I mean, yeah,
I get uh yeah, probably. Oh no, man, I think
the Giants, I don't know if they know who they
really are. I don't think anybody really knows. It's an
interesting test for him. I do think the vibes of
the day are such to like, I don know, man,

(07:43):
I tell you, this is a good time for this
reunion after this England trip, like just to get everybody's attention, Like,
there's no way you're missing out on Are you going
tomorrow to the practice? Are you gonna go over there
with some of the lums there? Yep, So there you go.
That'll be a whole thing, right that. I mean, we're
gonna have one hundred lums at practice. That's gonna be unbelievable,
or at least a significant amount of guys from Super
Bowl fifty.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I don't know how it affects the team itself, but
it's gonna be a lot of fun for us.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Better defense twenty to fifteen are now.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Well, I'm not gonna start comparing in contrast until this
team starts win in.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Do you think that when those comparisons naturally happen, and
of course patser Tann and crew are gonna hear these comparisons,
do you think that is a motivating factor?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Sure, I mean people got pride, Players got pride. They
want to be the best to ever do it. But
how many of the players now understand what that team was?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Very few? Very few?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
So I mean, but okay, fine, Maybe they don't know
the specifics, but they certainly know it's regarded as one
of the best defenses of all time. Like, you don't
need to know a lot about them, but you know that, hold.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
On, hold on, hold. Are they considered one of the
best defense of all time?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yes, I would say so, absolutely to who. I would
say they're one of the top five defenses of all
time because I think five or so defenses have won
Super Bowls, and that's one of them. Namely, the other
defenses that have won super Bowls. Give you the Bears, give.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
You the Ravens, yup, Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Okay, fine, we'll give you Tampa Bay. Brad Johnson, not
Trent Tilford. I mean, there's not many most most Super
Bowls are won by offense, not defense, but there's about
five or six of them that are defense, and that
team is one of them.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Uh what about Seattle's.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's up there, it's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
I think Seattle and Denver twenty fifteen, they'd probably be
competing for that fourth and fifth spot.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean Seattle. I mean, listen, let's not you know, Russ.
It's not like Russ was a terrible quarterback the full
time and Marshawn Lynch was on that team as well.
I mean, they had some players on that offense, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
The one thing that you can't tangibly feel in a
stat line with that twenty fifteen defense, though, which what?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Which?

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Is what really made them so special? The timeliness man,
I mean, the third and long sack, the strip sack,
the interception, the keep to Lee picked six. It's not
just that they happened, it was when they happened. They
happened at the biggest, most crucial moments of every game.
You just knew the defense was gonna do something insane.

(10:22):
And you can't tangibly feel that when you look at
all time great stat line.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Right. Oh, we've went back and looked at that Orange Crush,
the original Orange Crush. They had a three year period
where they gave up it was crazy, twelve, ten and
fourteen points. It was over a three year stretch. In
that three years, they average given up thirteen points a game.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, the Broncos. The Broncos are giving up fifteen fifteen
points game, fifteen point eight. We gotta look at the Texans.
The Texans are actually in first place in that department
with just under twelve. Like, something's going on, and we'll
see the Texans here in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
You've been struggling, right, and so all of a sudden
they can win games. I think when you compare offenses
and defenses, you got to compare by eras, Like I
don't think it's right to compare against the Bearers in
eighty five when they held them to like twelve points
per game. Well, it's a different it was a different game, right,
So it's almost like take from two thousand and on

(11:18):
and what had been the best defenses of all time
Baltimore and Denver and Seattle.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And where this defense fits in. It's off to a
great start for show with the.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Three he's mentioned won a championship. So this and I
first question asked you in the open if you waste
this defense and can't find a way to win a
Super Bowl with this defense and the way it's perpetrating
on people.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
And man, we already did you waste two or three years?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
We already possibly blew two games with this defense for
special teams reasons. Yeah, one for sure with the Colts,
And it's arguable if you blew the game with the Chargers.
But I mean it was a walkoff. Well the Colts won.
You've just had one and you've just screwed it up
leverage and hopefully that doesn't come to burn you. But
like I mean, even if you just say, hey, the

(12:05):
Charger's gonna win, okay, I mean I guess this Broncos
team should be five and one right now. Let's let's
face it. So the question is are they legit or not?
And yeah, okay, it's been fun seeing the Giants. Come on, man,
you're gonna lose on this reunion weekend to Jackson Dart
and cam Skataboo.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
They almost lost in London to Justin Field.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right, But Tyler makes a good point. London's London, like
you know, London is. I agree with you on that.
London is just quirky. Everything about it's quirky and different.
This has not been a quirky different week. Listening to
the coaches and the players, I don't know how they
did it, but they manage their sleep, schedules, their rest whatever.
These guys aren't. I don't get a sense, Tyler, whatsoever
they're burned out or exhausted. I don't get a vibe

(12:51):
like that, whatsoever?

Speaker 4 (12:52):
I mean, I don't know how we would know. How
would we know.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm just telling you the vibe from what I see
from out there and reported how the guys are sounding,
what they're talking about, that's all I mean. If they are,
I haven't heard anything about it. I haven't heard anybody
talking about it. There's no indication of it. But we'll see. Man,
I don't know if they go out and lay an egg.
Maybe the schedule was too much, Maybe they really do
need a break.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I mean, that would be my biggest concern with the game. Still,
It's not about the Giants, It's not about Jackson Darter
Camp's kataboo. It would be can you handle the justment
of coming back without a buye?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
All right? Well, we all have them winning and we
go from there. You talking about the Dallas Cowboys coming
in next week at home, That game's a little more scary,
I think, actually, I don't know. Their defense is terrible,
but their offense is.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Like I'm always more scared about teams you supposed I
don't know. I was scared of the Jets. Gable, I
feel you on that.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Hey, le Broncos are a seven and a half point favorite,
and that scares you were definitely supposed to win this one.
Ain't no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I mean, they're seven and a half points favorite and
they got thirteen points last week.

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(14:47):
five oh four ninety two five. Dan First up.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
All right, guys, Drake Greenlaw don't know if he's gonna
play Sunday against the Giants. Here is Sean Payton from today,
asked by Leggy how Good of a wiki.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
From your perspective to green oile a good week.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, positive, you know, he was able to go and
move around. So yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
He would later go on to say that we'll know
if he's gonna play when the injury report comes.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Out later today.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
He wouldn't say if he would be listed as questionable.
But I just I'm curious, what do you guys think
Drake Greenlaw will add to this defense that they don't have?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Right now?

Speaker 5 (15:23):
What is Dray Greenlaw adding to this already top ranked
Broncos defense when he comes back.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Wait, it's hard to say, like what's missing on this defense?
Right because the defense is fantastic and I would say
the best part of this defense is how cohesive they play.
It is similar to twenty fifteen. It's a great pass
rush with a great secondary. I think our inside linebacker
play has been the one questionable mark of the defense.

(15:52):
The one thing that Dray brings is a hard hitting, thumping,
downhill linebacker that can actually cover. So what's his specialty?
I would say his presence. I mean, you guys saw
Dre out there just on the sidelines of trading camp.
That's a thick dude. Now, that's a real thing.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Dude, Yeah, I think it adds a thumper inside on
the run game, which if you kind of go back
and listen, Jonathan Taylor's doing it against everybody who's played
against this year, right, averaging over one hundred yards a game.
But they sure could have used little Drake Greenlow inside
in that game in particular. So you got a pretty
good offensive line, you got a thumper running back. Be

(16:33):
nice to have a thumber middle linebacker.

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number two.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
All right, our guy Tony Rizzo up there in Cleveland
is usually freaking out about shudor Sanders, but he's freaking
out about their GM up there, Andrew Berry and the
Joe Flacco trade. Listen to the tirade from Tony Rizzo
up in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
This morning. How could you do that, Andrew?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
How could you do it?

Speaker 6 (17:20):
Why on earth did you feel the need to trade
this guy to a division opponent for a fifth round
draft pick. Fireable offense? That is a fireable offense. I
want to know how much longer the owner's gonna watch
this crap, because the fans have had it. We deserve better.

(17:41):
You just you worried more about your stadium than you
are your football team. That's the perception, Jimmy, and you
allow these people to do this. You have the worst
offense in the league. Your GM screwed this quarterback thing
up like I've never seen in my life. I've never
seen anything like kids to play Madden could have a
better job, truly.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's not hyperbally, it's a joke. It's a joke.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
This franchise has become a joke, and I'm sick of it.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Well, he's right about that, He's right about all of it. Um,
But they weren't going anywhere this year anyway. But yes,
they've totally messed up the quarterback thing. We talked about
it from the jump, Well, we talked about it when
Flacco went there. We talked about when Dylan Gabriel we
still really don't understand why you drive to schadur and
you gave Deshaun Watson the dumbest contract ever. So, yeah,

(18:34):
Jimmy Haslam, you are a moron, and you probably do
care about your stadium that's going fifteen miles outside of
the city. By the way, they ain't putting that stadium
in the city, They're taking it to the suburbs.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
But specifically, as to the topic which started the conversation there,
which was the Joe Flacco trade, you don't see this
done in the NFL. Ever, damn sure. You don't see
it with the quarterback. You don't see players traded within conferences.
That does not happen. And I mean, Tomlin called out
Andrew Berry for a very good reason. You like, I'm

(19:04):
not calling Joe Flacco a stud. He looked like a
stud last night. He's a capable quarterback that you combine
that with some really good wide receivers and what do
you expect He's probably gonna look Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
If you start with Joe Flacco with the Browns, you
might have won seven games this year, maybe eight, but
you're still not going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
But but the best part of it is that the
Browns are they They weren't even trying to trade Joe Flacco.
The Bengals just called and they offered a fifth round.
There like, oh, that actually sounds like a good idea.
Let's do that.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, that is true. They just that is true. That is.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Let me just let me throw some names out there.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Spurgeon Win, Sorry, throw some.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Names out your Spurgeon Win.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Spurgeon Win.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Have you heard of him?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
He's a wide receiver, I believe no.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
He was a drafted quarterback for the Browns. Luton McCown,
Charlie Fry, I know where we're going now, Brady Quinn,
Colt McCoy, Brandon Whedon, Manzell, Cody.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Kessler, Yeah, got him, gotcha, Deshaan Kaiser. It's been. It's
been brutal.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Baker Mayfield, Dorian Thompson, Robinson. So the problem the Rizzo
or whatever that cast name is, made a mistake in
his siloquy, which I don't disagree with most way he
says when he said they're becoming a joke. Those are
just a handful of quarterbacks they've drafted since two thousand.
They've been a joke for a long long time.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
And here's why. Jimmy Haslam is the Dick Monford of football.
He probably has the best intentions and he's focused on
the finding a shiny new toy, but it ain't working
there and he doesn't know how to make it work,
and he's not stepping out like he is. He's involved
with everything. He wants to be involved with everything. Now
you know what his whole thing is is truck stops

(20:49):
and all that Jimmy HASLM stuff. It's some shady stuff
with Jimmy Haslam. But they're getting the stadium builds and
it's going to bring in billions probably in YadA, YadA YadA.
And wait till super bowls in Cleveland. Wait till we
have the twenty thirty or twenty thirty one Cleveland Super Bowl, y'all?
Won't that be a dandy on the suburbs of Cleveland?

(21:11):
Are you got one more there?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Dan Well?

Speaker 5 (21:14):
I was just gonna mention that Kevin O'Connell, Viking's head coach,
said that Carson Wentz will make his fourth consecutive start
on Sunday against j Eagles, not JJ McCarthy, So that'll
be another game without their original starter JJ mccarforthy, who
did return to practice this week as he continues to
recover from a high right ankle sprain he suffered on

(21:36):
September fourteenth. Do you guys think that JJ is the
most likely bust of the twenty twenty four oh quarterback
draft class.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
It's too sure to say bust because the injury. I
didn't like him in college, but that's that's a whole
another question. We'll see. I will have him watched a
few different things lately. I'm kind of a big fan
of Kevin O'Connell for sure, and if JJ McCarthy can play,
he'll be a player in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
If he doesn't work with Kevin O'Connell, Okay, it's tough
to call guys bus when they don't play well or
they have injury issues. Does that make him a bust.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Or just starting quarterback right now?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
For the Vikings? Carson wentz Right, Sorry.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I mean we were quick to call him a bust
after he suffered a big a cl and after his
rookie year. Right, he was never the same for the
next two or three years.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, but before that he was like the MVP of
the league and was taking him right to the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
He tours a cler Remember Tynery tours a cl and
went in for another play handoff touchdown. I don't think
fans with his ACL Yeah, I mean, I don't think
fans would hesitate to use the word bust with injuries.
I'm with the Mac though.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Like I think about Bradley Job, A lot of people
call Bradley Job a bust with the Denver Broncos. I
was like, Bradley jumb is not a bust. That dude
was a good football player, a really good football player.
They got hurt a lot, and so yeah, it fell disappointing,
But I can't call the dude to bust. What he's
actually good at.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
His job is where I'll jump on on dmax side.
But in a position where you're not necessarily going to
be a game changer and you don't have a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Is Sam Darnold a bust?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Not anymore?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Is Baker Mayfield a bust?

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Not anymore?

Speaker 5 (23:17):
So?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Who knows? You guys, time, give guys opportunity. You never know.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
What's what's Carson Wentz now Minnesota since he's been starting.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, he's like when when Whens is in the journeyman
fits magic. But I understand that Tyrod you know he's
he's like that.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
But all of a sudden, these guys find a place
where there's there's a guy that actually is is an
instructor and a developer, and all of a sudden you
find out, hey, Carson, this is what you do. Do well,
you've got another eight years backup quarterback at six million years.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I agree with you on that. And if you're willing
like Joe Flacco is, and I'm not saying he's a
bad person at all, but if you're willing to live
apart from your family and just have this vagab on
sort of lifestyle, like Joe said, one of the things
he's most excited about his seeing his family because he
has five kids. But he'll see his family this weekend
because they played on Thursday night. But their family is
willing to make that sacrifice so that he can do that.
And there's nothing wrong with that, nothing at all, But

(24:13):
you got to be willing to do it.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Worse his kids at family.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
They had to settle down somewhere, so I'm not sure
exactly where they are. I'm gonna kind of guess they
went back to Maryland, that area because that's where they
had their biggest roots. But I don't know that for
a fact. But he he knows he can't be moving
them all over them. What's he gonna move to Cincinnati
in the middle of the season.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, he lives in South Jersey in the off season.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Okay, Well, that's probably where he's from. It's probably where
he grew up. It's a Jersey boy. He went to Delaware.
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(24:56):
on Adam Marris from d NVR. Adam, how tall are you?

Speaker 7 (25:01):
I'm six five six five.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, that's legit. I believe it. Tyler's six' eight and
a little bit more than. That scott are? You are
you above six ten or you like probably a little
bit little little above six?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Ten.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Adam What i'm saying here is this lineup right here
sounds pretty. Good six,' five six eight, and change six ten.
And change and then You Put, chris DEMPSEY who i
guess will just beat everybody up AND then i don't
know what you do. AT guard, i mean we you
know who cares really at, that point and this is this.
Is IDEAL but i gotta, Tell You, TYLER scott I

(25:36):
heard dempsey is tapping out because he's got. Some Issues, So, Adam,
Yeah ADAM i'm, I Guess i'm i'm we're getting you
on here because it seems like you guys are really
excited about this. Whole THING but, i mean we need
we might need a little. Recruitment. HERE adam i don't
know if you got anything to Say to Tyler and
scott here about what damnage you guys could do together
Against the nuggets.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
Assistant, coaches, well, look Man all i'm gonna Say is
i'm gonna beg those guys. To play because You said
i'm feeling excited. ABOUT this i don't know if excitement's the,
right word BUT if i got those two guys by,
My side i'm feeling a lot better.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
About, it scotty what'd you say you? Saw it what
what'd you say that you saw his line At on twitter?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Last, Night yeah i'm, following, You.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Guys adam people are hyping. You up by, The.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Way adam's gonna get fourteen eight and six and you
got fourteen eight and six idea Against the.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Nuggets' coaches i'm telling you, Right now i'm expecting a.
Quadruple team SO so i. DON'T know i might go
for a zero, Zero zero BUT like, i, Said, man scotti, Come,
on tyler. Let's, GO man i think we could pull.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
This, off no.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
We.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Already had we had a whole show the other Day
when tyler said he could play IN, the nfl that
that there's a time in your life as a former
jock that you. Remain delusional and mine hit me at
FIFTY when I let mos goof playing one, on one
drive around Me and, i'm going this is the slowest
guy in. The earth and he just went around me

(27:00):
and IT was i was FIFTY and, i went oh,
My god i've been delusional for. Seventeen years i've been.
Deluding Myself but i'm.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Just saying if six five six eight six' ten got
off the Bus for the muggles, for the, Media, YOU know, adam,
i mean, okay Question though SHOULD scott and i, EVEN
be like i don't Even think THAT scott and i
should be included because we're Not, True bud wow well, Here,
we go like should former athletes in the?

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Media, be included adam what?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Do, you think well, first of.

Speaker 7 (27:31):
All absolutely yes and the REASON yes is i have
A feeling like i don't know if we're Going To
get david adaman. ON the court i don't know if
he's going to. BE out there i think we're going to,
get player development we might get. A video coordinator i
have a feeling the coaching team is not going to be. Just, pure,
coaches so uh if they're going, TO fudge it i
think we can. Fudge.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
It too uh you, go, Before Games right and i'm
going to put two guys names Out there That i've
seen i've seen you or have seen you. Watch, Work,
Out nakoleokic Durell arthur got Amingo.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
Mass, him no, HEY technically though i think. He's a
scout This is. What i'm. Saying he's not but he's.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
On the stage, he getting. Paid all right how about,
the other Guy how about. BONNIE six, eleven, i mean yeah.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
That's, gonna be yeah he's he's. A little tall i
think he's gonna probably. Block Him shots and.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'm trying to find. HIS cat's name. I Can't remember
so adam put up put.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
A roster together that put a roster together that won't
lose by forty or won't be as Humiliated as the
celtics media Was against.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
The, celtics, COACHES well well, i gotta say at four
points feels, like the. Bar doesn't it fifty, three point
line that feels. Like the bar, if we can if
we can keep this thing within, TWENTY thirty POINTS i
think i would count it. As a win but.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Who's gonna stay who's gonna stay In Front?

Speaker 7 (28:50):
Of john beckett nobody's All stayed in, georgia.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Two Time all amsa gonnie we get we we. Aren't
at him, by the way we did hash this out
the other day before. It became official it's funny that, now,
it's official right and we said they're Gonna score will
the challenge we would have is just getting the ball.
Up the Court but With, tyler and scott because, there
you know there's we just, got, and you frankly we
always had you in, the starting lineup, by the way just,

(29:15):
to you know from. From the jump but we we
we we would have a way to get the ball,
up the court, and then Frankly, we figured tyler who
could bench press a freaking. MOUNTAIN these days i don't
know If you've seen. Tyler these days tyler just, talking
on you but he's. An Unbelievable shape if tyler's looking to,
mess somebody Up? AREN'T it tyler, I mean.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
No i'm not, i'm NOT scoring but i can get.
The way exactly.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Just set some some, bone crushing screens Right. He just.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Tyler tyler, sets the screen rolls. To the basket Either.
You or scotty just jack. Up the threes we're not
worried about. An inside game just get. The shots off.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Let me throw it out another That if the z's
leaks plays in the game, and guards you you won't.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Touch.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
THE ball, yeah i mean HERE'S the thing i, Always,
TELL people man i player at. The college level i'm a.
PRETTY good Player i Think i'm an i'm. FORTY one
Now i mean i've, lost a lot but AT my
best i was a ninety. Ninth Percentile player but i'm
closer to the fiftieth PERCENTILE player than i am the,
hundredth percentile player WHICH is what nba. Guys are like

(30:17):
the curve gets really steep at the top, when those,
guys you know when those. Guys are phenomenal so it's
gonna and that that would have been. Twenty Years ago
but i'm still. Excited for, it you know it's still
gonna be. A fun challenge what was your?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Last college game was two thousand and Six.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
Against uh pomona pitzer was, my last game which Was
a great popovich's. Old, old school.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Listen here's what's gonna. Happen at him you're gonna turn
around halfway, in this game and you're gonna be on
the court and you're gonna see you vote wind for
stall in me and you were going to feel so
sad right. Then and there and that's where that's where
it gets to like. A total humiliation.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Harrison will be jacking up threes from. About, thirty two.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Well the pressure Was. Put on harrison harrison was listed
AS the previous mvd in. The press release.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
Hey here's, the key man and this is. THE honest,
true i mean if, they press, us you know, it's
almost like what are? We gonna, do come on you
gotta work to. Beat a press you gotta have a.
PLAN in place i don't even know. Everybody is playing
but Here's the thing i'll tell guys when. We get there.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Just.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
Shoot it, man you're like it's gonna be hard enough.
Getting shots off the. Ball finds you we gotta, get
it up get lucky a, couple of times, and you
know you know their plan is going to be to
try to double and trap and get some steals. And
get out so just. Just shoot it let's.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
See what happens we just give you a. Quick coaching,
tip ball fakes get them, off their feet because everyone's
gonna try. To steal everything, so ball fake get them.
Off their, feet, pass around, fake high, pass low, fake low,
pass high pressure. Full core pressure you gotta have somebody
designated that's always gonna. FLASH middle no i think you

(31:58):
hit middle. No for them the other. Teams, compress him
oh hit it to the middle of fly the way.
You're gonna be you. Going, TO coach listen i. Got.
A job hey i get Yelled at if i'm on
the road and have to leave, THIRTY minutes early i Get. Mad, at,
now HEY sorry so i will miss the last two
hours of the show to. Go play, basketball hey.

Speaker 7 (32:21):
Man come, On all right i'll write The letter to Altitude,
today saying hey we need we need, a coach man
at least a Coach. Here with hastings but you Know
we got vic's always. IN good shape i. Hope he's
playing katie's always. In good? Shape, got it well man doesn't.
Ever stop Running forgot?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
About Doug yet is doug?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Considered? Media anymore hasn't he hasn't done anything that he's
at their.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Milk and, cows, He's tall.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Brother, I'm, Telling You. Durell arthur counts, i'm, BRINGING anybody anybody,
i can get anybody that's ever called. Into the show
i'm getting them.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
On, all right adam are? YOU in charge.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
I don't know i, don't think so because you might
have to take charge when, we get there just to. See,
what's happening okay What, scene In gladiator remembering gladiator the
first when they, get out there nobody has any instruction
and they just somebody has to. Take the lead that's what's.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Gonna feel like moe used to call call of all, the,
regular People uh d s's dip? You know what and
so he would he would have, if he's here he
would have, looked, at him going you're the king Of.
The d s's so. He's in.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Charge congratulations, Shooters, all right well it's gonna be a
fascinating Day, on next tuesday and.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Is it really it's.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Gonna be fascinating it's.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Getting less fascinating actually going to, hate.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
This question but i'm just gonna throw it out there
because we've got. To be prepared what happens?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
If we?

Speaker 7 (33:36):
Win?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (33:38):
God what? What what?

Speaker 7 (33:39):
Happens what happens there's gonna be cameras? And everything? Else
what what what? Does that? Say?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
You're, drunk that yeah THAT somebody sliped pcp inside the. Coaches,
gatorade bottles.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
Hey THIS is why i love what you said right,
off the top is that there's a moment where your
delusion as an. Athlete goes away my, mine's GOING away
but i still got a little kernel of.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Delusion. In me, YEAH well listen i can told you
if you hear a guy, and they say a zz
you got? More, got you yeah you ain't? Touching, The
ball okay i'm. Just telling you this dude is a. Stud, jock,
Athlete yeah man.

Speaker 7 (34:20):
I've, seen. Him, yeah madam guys, by the way those are,
the young guys Those.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Are, the yeah yeah he's he's probably twenty four.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
To, twenty five adam you got three days to get
the get in shape in Three Days, the towering twins you.
Know in shade, other than, that you know when you
pass Out From uh Matt Moore, to ryan blackburn it. Could,
get Ugly.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Listen the muggles. Put themselves In if the muggles put
themselves a wreck team but played a, rec league somewhere
you wouldn't even. Be, five, Hundred, hey.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Hey scott he's not wrong by The way that i'm with.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Him on, that all right it's great to. Have you
on we'll see. How it goes.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Have fun.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Without you Two he's and chris isn't, gonna. Play either,
apparently but no but.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
My Conversation with With, tyler started wednesday and he took
A LITTLE personal and i didn't mean, it'd Be.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Personal but, I'm you know i'm. Only forty scot.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
But but Now listening, to adam, delusional hold on he called.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Here's the difference he called himself a. NINETY ninth percentile
i was a. NINETY ninth percentile a little bit, of a,
DIFFERENCE you, KNOW i, mean, i MEAN like Like i loved,
adam and all but you know what WAS he, PLAYING
d two?

Speaker 3 (35:32):
D three basketball?

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Is?

Speaker 4 (35:33):
That is that is that ninety? Ninety, ninth, YOU no
no i was not, talking about basketball to, BE very.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Clear i gotcha you had twenty One Game with cherry
creek got. Benched, in half? Okay thank, you.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
All right maybe we just. Won't even bother, It's, All,
right well, tyler it's uh you got you got a.
Lot going on YOU want to i don't know what
you can say and what, you can't say but it's.
A pretty awesome it's, gonna, Be fun man i'm looking forward.
To doing it what are you looking forward? To the most,
by the way tonight's gonna.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Be really cool so we got a we got a
little program. Tonight that starts, it's PRETTY early SO i
gotta i gotta skid out and get, out of here
go home and get, changed real, quick, and then. UH
god day i don't know what, the Program is so
i'm curious to see. They call it the program goes
from four, to seven, O'clock ALL right so i don't
know what they got. Planned for that But Tonight is

(36:28):
super bowl Fifty team And, ring of famers so that's.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Gonna be, Great, oh wow okay.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
So that'll be a little bit. More intimate gathering get
breaking one guest, tomorrow is uh we got practice in
the morning and that Again Is just super bowl fifty
team and ring of famers.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
On that one you, can break it get any.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Guests You want so i'm actually bringing my pops TOMORROW
morning to, uh to practice which. Will be cool and
then in the, EVENING, Tomorrow night uh we've got another
program or whatever you want to call it that will
be for all, of the alumni right so any year
which will. That'll be fun i'm taking my dad to.

(37:11):
That one again And then, on sunday morning, taking my daughter,
My youngest daughter Kenzie to the broncos game and we'll
be down there at halftime on The. Field For dubarius
and it's it's, a, full Weekend man so i'm really looking.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
FORWARD to it i found out a couple of things
by the WAY on this i Was talking to patrick.
A little bit eleven thirty is the UNVEILING of the
dt statue outside. OF the stadium i don't know if
you're planning on being, there or not but that's happening
at eleven Thirty. Tomorrow OUR sunday and i Did talk To,
patrick like hey would it Be Cool for courtland sutton

(37:49):
to like wear? Number eighty eight have you guys thought about?
Something like that, and, he goes yeah it's. A great thought.
We've had it but the licensing DEALS of the nfl
makes it so. MUCH red tape i just felt that
was like such a bummer that there's these contracts and THE,
way the nfl You know, What i'm saying like.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
It's a bummer BECAUSE, it's the nfl the biggest sports entity.
In the world and if you, were, gonna say hey
one of the league's fallen, heroes the, league uh citizen
CITIZEN of the nfl died and they're, honoring him today
we'd like to. Do, something special well you got to
FILL out your br forty nine.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
And you're coress Well That's.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
That's, roger, goodell saying no they can do what. They
want to it's. A certain exception.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Here's, a stamp, well you know it Appears that the
bromas we're thinking about it and would want, to do
something but it's just a bridge. Too far across, so
WELL again can i tell You You.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Have Greg penner, called goodell said rubber? Stamp this?

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Forment, WOULD you yeah i don't know what do you
know what other ways are GOING? To honor dt? TYLER
any kind I Saw the super bowl. The reunion poster
there's four guys on. The reunion poster can you name?
Who they are. There's, four guys okay they do a
poster For Every, SINGLE, Broncos, peyton.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Dt Vaughan And the marcus Marcus, YOU'RE.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Close peyton dt i'll GIVE you a dt is. NOT on,
THERE i think I think because dt is getting all
of his own stuff and so it's More Like the super.
Bowl fifty team AND not that, dt wasn't important but
who was like the four people the four people that most,
Symbolize that.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Too, Marcus, Von, uh Leake.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Jackson.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
AND wolf, no i mean like the OTHER name that i,
was leaning towards is it? Another offensive player?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
It's, A Coach?

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Oh? Garyl coobs coops.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Well that was.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
A trick question why set us up for failure?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
On That One it's coobs peyton where and.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
By the way the first twenty thousand fans, In THE
door oh, I saw that you'll. Get a uh it's it's.
Actually pretty cool it's a it's gold gold Chain With
a super. BOWL fifty pendant i think it's.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Kind, OF cool, YEAH i saw i. SAW a key
i want to get.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
ONE of them i.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Saw to LEAVE how do i get my hands on?
ONE of those i think YOU'LL probably just i bet they'll.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
Have.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Some extras Okay, SOMETIMES in ballerina.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
I see the.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
CASES of giveaways i mean it's there's palate loads, of these,
things you know, twenty five thousand but they'll probably give
them thirty five. Thousand for, WHATEVER but YEAH i. THINK
i don't i don't think you're gonna have a, Problem, get,
One okay Cool i'd be i'd be surprised. If you
Were Congratulations, to steve cruz He won the. Maverick gift

(40:37):
card Say. Hi to, Tom, thank you steve and congratulations
were brought To You. By revitalized health find Them. At
Revitalized health, Uh i'm sorry, oh my god My Memories
to revitalized? Health isn't them and revitalized dash. Health dot
com any we'll let, You. Go here tyler anything else
you want to say about three and anything.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
We should know i'm just really looking forward to being a.
Part of this, and you know it's All. Really about
dubarrius it's Not About the super bowl fifty team as
much as It Is, about da barius and we're all
getting together to be able. To honor them we've got
forty plus players coming back, from my team which is
gonna be. An absolute, blast i'm Actually even, Though i'm
local i'm gonna stay at the Hotel that the broncos,

(41:18):
offered for us just hang out with the boys AS
long as. I possibly can so we'll see what we.
Get Into tonight but i'm really looking forward to it
and really Really happy that tabarius is getting honored as
one of the all type of great will you will
you wear? A NAME tag will i wear? A? Name,
Tag sure Yeah i'm just i'm just. The backup tackle.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
We'll have a great time and we'll talk to you About.
It on monday and, by the way nice.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Bro tank TODAY you KNOW i had i had. A,
THING thing okay.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
I.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
APOLOGIZE about that i will try to not leave you
out to. DRY ever AGAIN i know i did feel
guilty About. That next, friday all, right goodbye.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Boys see it what's your best Memory Of that super?
Bowl fifty Team scott and nate as are.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
That they, won twelve games and on the, surface of
it that was a. FIVE hundred team i mean, they
you know whether It was, the Chiefs game, or detroit's
Game or, the cleveland game and there's Another One in.
San diego game they had all these games it seemed
like they had no. Right to Win And then david bruton.

(42:31):
Make a play And then then peyton who would throw
three picks in, the, first Half right and nate and
then all, of a sudden have one drive in, the
fourth quarter, gets you down, score a touchdown and you.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Win the GAME they had i think two wins that
year where they didn't score.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
An, offensive touchdown yeah so, there, you go YEAH which.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
Which i Think included like baltimore, in THE opener And
I remember darian stewart made a crazy play at the end.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Of that game and then god was IT like the
i think
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