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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Tyler will be back from practice here in seconds, so
we look forward to hearing all about the Broncos. We're
in the back of in Shanker Studios. Their passion, it's justice. Hey,
fill in this sentence. Let's have a little fun with this.
Bill Tyler gets back, and uh, we can focus in
on the Broncos. Show Hayes on the bump tonight for
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the Dodgers. Fill this blanket three oh three, five four nine.
Going to watch show heyo, Tawny pitch is like seeing blank,
do blank or play blank? One of those things is
like what seeing showy show? Hey o, Tawny pitch.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Is like what magic playing basketball? Is it? Why?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Magic?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
La A lot of other really good okay, all right,
all right, a.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Little a little different for his time. But what he did,
I mean, he wasn't he wasn't conventional point guard. He
was six or nine, right, m hm, A little unconventional,
a little bit different, a little different here.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Possibly the best ever.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well he's in. He's in, you know, top five, top ten.
I mean, Joey o'tani is he the best ever?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
When you hear like, well, Spilly says so on the
broadcast all the time. So this is the best guy
to ever put on a baseball uniform. I mean I've
heard him say it multiple times. Now, whether you agree
or not, that's up to you. It's just an opinion.
But that's why I'm asking the question. Going to see
show heyo tany pitch is like what now, I'm well,
have you played against Michael Jordan? I was lucky to
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see Michael Jordan. I was lucky to see Kobe Bryant
in person, Lebron James, Larry Bird, Magic, Magic, Sure you
know Magic hold on. I gotta think about that. Well, yeah,
but that's against I didn't. I didn't. I didn't have
tickets like the NBA Finals. I don't know if I
ever did see Magic play in person. I might not
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have actually, but we can get back to it later.
We just kill a little time till Tyler got back here. Anyways,
so well we can continue that a little bit, but
that is happening later tonight. He's he's arguably the best
of all time and seeing somebody who's is like, you know,
watching Da Vinci paint, you know, something like that. Is
it is it?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Like?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Is it something like just beyond just sports itself.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I'm always reluctant to put a guy who's currently playing
in the best of all Time. Okay, you know he
has another elbow injury, and then he becomes a hitter,
hell of a hitter. Yeah, got a little power.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, didn't pitch last year at all. So he's pitching.
It's not that he's just hitting, says, he's pitching. We
can get to it later, Tyler, Welcome back for practice.
How how was the deal out there today?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, it was. It was a hot one for sure.
Felt to be like the guys were grinding a little bit.
To be honest with you, I mean it's hot. Those
days do affect you sometimes it's hard to break the
energy when you're just zapped like that. Are you a
fan of orange? You find a fan of white, Well,
I'd like to see that White do better.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I had orange in high school, the Tigers. I had
Orange literally is the nickname of my college. And I
am been a Broncos fan for twenty six years. All right,
So I guess I'm partial to Orange.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Your team defense reluctantly, yes, okay, well team defense out
of day.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, all right, so I'm tem Orange.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah yeah, team defense definitely out of day yesterday. Look,
I'm totally transparent, totally honest with you guys. Yesterday it
was a great day for the offense. It was another
good day for bow Nicks. Today was not nearly as crisp.
It started out pretty decent for bo. I had the
elevated view again, and so I actually was able to
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kind of chart a few of the periods, and you know,
they they started out practice with a team run period.
I'll say this, it sure appears to me like Tyler
Braday has got that number three spotty. I mean, he's
clearly the third man in just about every single time,
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they are giving fewer and fewer reps to the twos
and the threes over the last couple of days. Team
run period, I thought the O line created some holes
and it was pretty decent. Then they went to a
third down period and bow was five of seven on
his completions, four to seven on converting the first down right,
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So so third down period, it was a pretty good
period for him. But it ended on a on a
sour note. Not necessarily a terrible throw from bow knicks,
but a one of those that Evan Ingram. He's totally out.
He's reached out as far as he possibly can with
his left hand tip ball interception. It was not it
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was not a great ball. It wasn't a terrible ball,
but it did lead to an interception. Steady Scott, you'll
be happy to hear. Yeah, you'll be no, no, no, no,
you'll be happy to hear steady and regress today, Steady
uh in the third down period was putting too much
in the limelight. Well, you know you're the only one
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rooting for his demise. You're the only one here. He
was over three, Sam Aliger was over one in the
third down period. I keep going here, but I'll give
you guys to catch up. But they were playing music
during the team periods today, and they were alternating between
music and crowd noise, getting ready for crowd noise. So
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that was a new thing today. We have not had
any music or any crowd noise.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Bring more energy.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
No, no, no. It felt to me like the guys
were zapped. It really really did. What else, man, what
else had another period, uh Bo had a chance for
a really cool play with Pat Bryant, scrambled up the middle,
stopped just short of the line of scrimmage, launched it deep,
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probably fifty yards ish, give or take, but overthrew pap
By like ten yards and and and it was. It
was a walk in touchdown. Again. Not the easiest of throws.
You know, you're you're scrambling, You're you're you're moving up
in the pocket, you're you're trying to be aware of
the line of scrimmage, all those sorts of things. But
it was kind of crazy how far you overthrew them.
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I mean kind of crazy. You know, those are the
ones you get it stop, get your heartbeat right in
a matter of what one point two seconds and then
going on a dime. Yeah yeah. Uh They did continue
just random spots throughout practice to continue the work in
the no huddle. It would just be like a player
or two here that would stay on the line of scrimmage,
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run another plate. Uh So that's a couple days in
a row of a lot of know how to work
and then they you know, to wrap up practice. I
charted the whole thing. I don't know if you want
the whole thing, but the two minutes raill to wrap
up practice. Sure, thirty eight seconds, you're down twenty one
to fourteen. You got one timeout, balls on the fifty.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
All right, we gotta get a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Gotta get it, Gotta get a tuddy first plass, first
pass deep to Courtland Sutton incomplete. Second, second down, you
got a troutman crossing route, gain of five or six yards,
gets out of bounds, does his job. Okay, Third down, sack.
We're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Got timeout.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I guess we do have a timeout, we haven't used it.
Some questionable clock management. The clock was not ticking very quickly,
I'll tell you that much. But trouble, Yeah, real game.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Fifty yard line, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah. I didn't chart exactly where it was, but
that sounds.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
About right right. Yeah, you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Fourth down, it was fourth and six, and he does
convert it with a quick slant to Courtland Sutton. Okay,
drives alive. Okay. Again, questionable clock management here, because somehow
we've still got twenty seven seconds on the clock and
we only started with thirty eight with a sack. Not
entirely sure how that works, and not using Timeoutka, but
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you know what, we'll take the twenty seven seconds and
we're not going to complain because we're an offensive minded group.
Right second down in zone shot Marvin mems and complete
third down. We got fourteen seconds left. Bo scrambles for
fifteen timeout. Probably Zach Allen sack. But big game. Now
we're probably on the twelve fifteen yard line.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
How much time.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
After that play? We've got six six seconds left?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You might have time for two plays? Maybe yes, maybe yes?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Six seconds left? I wrote time for one TV shot.
Should have definitely been an interception to Jake Lon McMillan.
He just dropped it, flat out dropped it, so probably
should have walked off on an interception there. One second
is miraculously still on the clock.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
How about that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I don't know how the hell it happened, but I
mean it's amazing how there's just one second that is
still on that clock.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
This is certainly gonna be the last play. We've got
another crack of this thing. All right, let's go two
touchdown attempts, one second left.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh my gosh, Bo, what are you doing? You want
to talk about? You want to talk about ultimate? Russell
Wilson like just zero pocket presence, brain fart. Mike mclinchey
has got Jonathan Cooper locked up, I mean fully extended
arms out locked up. Bo's looking down the field, and
he decides to just drift out to the right and
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try to go by himself some time, and I mean
just walks directly into Jonathan Cooper or sack practice over all.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right, Well, more of the defense is pretty good.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, let's look at that one question before.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Of course, of course, did you.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
See Kevin Coward out there? Was he out there practice?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Colin Cowhard?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I did not see Colin Coward, you said.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, Scot's referring to the fact that Coward as predicted
the Broncos to be the fourth.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Best team from what he's seen. I saw that, and
I'm like, yeah, what's he seen from what he's heard? Yeah? No,
I you just said that in fact of being better
more clear from what I heard from Sean Payton. Yeah,
but don't tell me what you've seen when you've been
out there. I've been up there ten eleven times and
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and he ain't out there. I ain't seen nothing. Yeah,
you know, this team is pretty hard to predict. I
see somebody say bye, mister negative. Okay, I mean, look,
do you do you want to know what happened to
practice or not? Yesterday I was ultraed, I was glowing,
I was glossing bow dicks. I was telling you it
was good. Uh, today was bad. But this is why
this team is so hard to predict, because look, if
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you're a fan of good defense, we're have great defense,
right and that should put us in a lot of
ball games. That should give us a chance to win
a lot of games. What will this offense become will
be the question. I think that's the only thing to answer.
And I don't think you're gonna get it answered Saturday,
and I'm not sure that you'll get it answered until
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who was it the first game? Tennessee?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Tennessee. Let me ask you, Tyler, can you really replicate
those pressure situations in practice? Does it? Does it feel
like a game?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I think two minute drill always does it? Does? Yes?
Because that's that's especially as an offensive lineman. That's that's
tough living man.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That is tough living even in practice.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh hell yes, because defense is just tee and off.
They they're they're not even remotely playing the run. It's
just that that's a scary moment of practice.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Does success or failure in two minutes in practice often
replicate what happens in the real world in games? Or
is it just or is it impossible to bring it well?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I do think it can be a good indicator, you know,
a successful two minute drive. It's not about big plays.
It's about that play on second down that you threw
it out to Trout mean right. It's about that six
yard crossing route that you got out of bounds, right.
It's about that five yard quick slant to Courtland Sutton
getting on the ball and not eating up two clock
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too much clock. It's about efficiency. So I do think
you get a pretty good clue of how efficient the
crew can be. I don't think it was a bad
two minute drill. The clock management was questionable and it
gave them some extra opportunities in there, but they just
stalled out when they needed it the most.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
All right, well, we'll hear from some of the coordinators
coming up. They spoke to some of the muggles off
to the side, so we'll track that down for you
to hear what they have to say about life in
the fast lane. Plus a question if you were to
start an NFL team. Best player in the NFL right now,
who's not a quarterback? It's PhD On ninety two to five.
Appreciate you listening. I did not watch Hard Knocks last night.
(13:05):
I don't know if you did or not.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
No, I did not. I'm done. I watched the first two.
They were terrible. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
If you watch another one and you tell me it
got good, I'll watch it again. But someone's gonna have
to give me a reason to watch it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I got. I got started watching the.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I want your take on the Austin Gomer thing too,
in a little bit too. I'm curious where you come
from it. But I'm watching the Netflix Cowboys thing.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know, I'm a sucker for drama, Ain't no doubt
about it, whether it's real or not. But it is
always so good when it's real.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And like that Dallas Cowboys team. What are your memories
of that early nineties Cowboys team?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Man? I got to see him in the Super Bowl
in Atlanta when they just crushed the Bills. Close game,
I think at first half and then the second half,
third quarter, they just they had their smoked him. My
brother's the biggest Cowboy fans. When I grew up in Kansas,
you got your AFC game of the week was always
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the Chiefs and your NFC game was always the Cowboys.
So I have one brother who's like a die hard
Chiefs fan, another brother who's a die hard Cowboys fan.
So I always followed him, you know, always liked him.
It was a thrill one time when I got to
meet Roger Staubach. I always thought that was cool, right,
Well that goes back, yeah, yeah, well that was when
I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You know, I had forgotten how bad Tom Landry was
as a coach at the end, Like he is revered,
but at the end he was terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, he stayed kind of old school.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He didn't know guys names. He was falling asleep in meetings,
he was he was awful.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
How old was he?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I don't know, man, But like it wasn't good. Like
it was not a difficult decision for Jerry Jones to
move on from Tom Landers.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know. One of this sidebar Woody pages one of
his great back when he was a columnist with the Post.
Right when when Tom Landry died, he did almost a
eulogy on his on his side post was always on
the side of the paper, right, And it was a
story about his mom. Has mom always liked him because
he always Tom always dressed night and the coat and
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the tie and all these other coaches are wearing. But
it was like a whole story of Tom Landry's career
from the eyes.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Of his mom.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It was one of the great articles I've ever ever read.
But yeah, I think Tim Tom or when Jerry Bob
bought the team. I'm sure they went as far back
to that, right.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh yeah, you know they bought the line changes. Oh
they called it the Saturday Massacre.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's like two hundred million, right, one.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Hundred and fifty five.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And but hold on, when they spent that, they thought
he was crazy, they did, yep, And he made that
up within the first year.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, he he. It's just so funny seeing things that
don't feel like it that long ago. But I guess
they were. Emmett Smith had a holdout. Do you know
what he was holding out? Nineteen eighty nine?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, so right before the Hey Day?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, they were they were bad. They were bad.
And the first two years that he owned it, they
were bad. And then it sort of clicked in they
were bad with Jimmy Johnson. In the first year with
Jimmy Johnson, wasn't right right away, and then you know
when he's.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Blown out legends like take you know, Hank tex Shram.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh in his first press conference, Jerry Jones in his
first press goes, yeah, I don't I don't want to
be the coach. I want that guy's job. And he
points at the general manager, Tex shram who he consequently fired,
you know, shortly thereafter. But he actually said it. Jerry
Jones is a hoot man. You can say whatever you
want about that dude, but he is high entertainment and
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uh he is in a certain way. He's the most awesome.
Emmett Smith had a hold out. Now, this does remind
me of what's going on right now with Michael Parsons.
Jerry Jones prides himself on digging his heels in, like
that's that's where he feels he's the best. EMMITTT. Smith
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leading Russia for two years, wins a Super Bowl with
Dallas without a doubt, the best running back in the
NFL playing on a rookie contract, wants to redo his deal.
Sounding familiar, Michael Parsons Okay, Jerry just says, forget it,
We'll just move on to a rookie. They start ohing two.
And had they not started ohing two, I don't know
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if a deal would have got done. Emma had been sitting,
you know, and they had just won the Super Bowl.
Emmittt Steel that he finally settled for to be the
highest paid running back. You're ready for this? Nineteen nine?
Why'd you take a guess first? Nineteen ninety two, ninety
three something. So it's a four year contract, give me
the money?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh, total hold of money for four years?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Ten ten, Scott four years.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Eight million.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, okay, thirteen point six because Thurman Thomas had a
four year, thirteen point five million deal. But still, so
I guess I'm going a little bit over what you
guys are guessing.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Well, you made he made me want to guess low?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I guess so, But thirteen six for four years? Yeah,
and that that was the top. That was like.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Whoa yea three million.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Jerry Jones didn't want to pay it. He pays it.
They win another super Bowl and m Smith is, you know,
on multip fantastic. But this Michael Parson's thing, you know,
this thing I could see this lingering a little bit, man,
I could see Jerry Jones pushing this. Certainly has a
history of it.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah. I heard Adam Schefter talking about it yesterday and
he felt like the things leading towards a divorce. I
don't know, man, it seems to me like they're just
gonna pay the man. But they do still have the
franchise tag, so I mean, if he really wants to
dig his heels in, all right, Mike, get how about
you lose a year of service doesn't count towards anything.
You're further behind, you don't get anything towards your pension.
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And oh, by the way, on the back end of
that thing, yeah, we still got that franchise tag twice.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
So how big of a ripple effect do you think
this will? Do? You really think for Nick Benito, nothing
will happen until Michael Parson sells itself out.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Well, I mean, if it goes that long, no, no,
I mean they're they're not gonna wait an entire year
plus to get a deal done. But I mean, yeah,
I think that they're still holding out for it and
seeing what's gonna happen here, and you know, maybe maybe
you hold out until the end of training camp, and
if Michael Parsons doesn't get that deal done, maybe you
re engage. But for now, there's no reason to be
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in a rush because the money's only gonna go up
with each new contract.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
There was a question out there Dan Dan put it
in the old group text, if you were a side quarterback,
who's the best player in the NFL. This is a
tricky one to me because we got it. It's context
to me, actually, Matt, like, you know, is this who
I'm starting my team with? Is this who makes the
most plays? Is this who's the best defender? I mean,
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what what what matters the most? So it was like, well, okay,
how do you really want to find it? First of all?
Should just throw it out there? Do you think you
can define it? Do you think you can just say, okay,
take away quarterback? Here is the next here is the
best player in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Man, it's tough. I mean, I'd be tempted to go
with Saquon Barkley. I'd be tempted to go with uh,
Dustin Jefferson. He's up there for sure. You know, typically speaking,
when you don't go QB, it feels like you almost
always end up on a pass rusher, right, But the
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pass rushers, I think that there's not a clear separation
of who the best pass rusher in the NFL is anymore.
You know, it was TJ Watt for a while, it
was JJ Watt for a while. You know, it was
Aaron Donald for a long time. We've got we've got
a cluster of guys, Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, all these guys. Yeah,
and Trey Hendricksons certainly in the mix. They are all
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just like they're they're they're the best group in the NFL.
But could you really define who the best of them are?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I think it's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
The funny thing is if you'd ask this question six
years ago, I mean there was talk Aaron Donald winning
an MVP. I mean he was, he was that good.
I don't think there was when he was in his role.
Was there any question he was probably the best non
quarterback player in the end, No, No, he was the He
was the best player in the NFL for years and years.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
If you want to go by pay, a receiver would
be the choice, I suppose. Yeah, And if we're just
getting taken the quarterback out of it, the way the
NFL operates these days.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
If you really put me on the spot, I had
to pick a guy, I guess I'd picked Miles Garrett.
But then you look at it, You're like, well, what's
that doing for the brown So what's the best player
in the world doing for the Browns? I don't know.
It doesn't mean he's not the best player in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know, it's funny. I'll go back to that Cowboy document.
They had Michael Irvin, they were one and fifteen. They
had Troy Iigman, they were one and fifteen. You know,
it's a weird question, right, So it might be Miles Garrett. Seriously,
he just the rest of it kind of is kind
of whatever. I mean, that's what makes football so great,
by the way, because it's the ultimate team sport.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
People well, and it's changed to the quarterback is so
so instrumental.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's so ridiculous about every team.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You know, if we go back thirty five years ago
to the Cowboys, you can't you can't put Roger Staubach
in there. Tony door Seve would be voted, or maybe
Hollywood Henderson or one of.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Their really changed the Cowboys as this documentary shows it's
Charles Haley, and he had mental problems, There's no doubt
about it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well, he had mental problems for Super Bowls in San
Francisco and Super Bowls in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He just straight up has that's true, but he boiled it. Now.
I have no idea, but he was interviewed for the documentary,
so at least he's with us, you know. And he
was unbelievable as a player. Sometimes you talk about hey
players and the game is so much better now than
it was. There are some guys that, Tyler, don't you
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think could just play.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Oh, there's always gonna be players that could play in
any generation.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Charles Haley, I'm pretty convinced, would be a great player
in a head case, no matter. I think Michael Irvin
would be a great receiver. I think Emmitt Smith would
be a great running back. Troy Aikman would be a
great quarterback. Jerry Rice could play, Joe Montana could play.
There's some guys that just throughout time would always be
great players. I think.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
No, I agree with that. So, I mean, I think
the far Majordy would struggle in today's game. But there's
there's there's generational guys.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, it was pretty funny to see the old one.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I should say intergenerational.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I guess the Arkansas tape. Jerry Jones is a guard
and he might have gone, I don't know, two sixty maybe.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Oh, I don't big. I bet it was closer to
like two fifteen.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Uh, he would be bulked. I think he's gotta be
above two. He was actually kind of I mean puffy
a little bit. Then you see pictures of Jimmy Johnson,
who was I guess at defensive end, which is like
kind of a pretty squatty body for a pass rushing
defensive end or.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
What one when he when he was playing the University
of Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well it's a beefy one ninety five as a guard. Yeah,
that's great. It was nineteen sixty four, dude, Yeah, I
got you different times.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And invented chemicals.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Ship, that's crazy. He was really is it one ninety something? Okay? Nuts? Hey,
did you hear our conversation about Austin Gomber and that
whole thing?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I did hear some of it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You got any Just to recap Austin Gombers down on himself?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Oh yeah, just mak him bad pitches. You know, I
just feel like I'm in a tough spot right now.
You know, it's sex to let the team down, and
you know, more specifically the bullpen for sure. You know
we needed more length than that. I just couldn't provide it.
You know, I just feel like I'm just a little
bit lost out there right now. You know, don't really
(25:04):
have any confidence conviction, really don't really have like an
identity of what I'm trying to do, you know, so
just trying to figure it out, man. And it's kind
of that's what it is, you know, Like I said,
it just doesn't and I don't really have a lot
of like belief in what I'm doing, so just kind
of like searching, you know as we go. So it's
(25:29):
a tough place to be, you know, out there trying
to you know, figure out what's gonna work on the fly,
you know. But that's just kind of what I have
right now. So you know, we're trying to find it,
trying to find something to like grab on to and
go with, you know, but right now I'm just startling
to find that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, you know, it's something I can relate to he's
an a a radically different phase of his career. I mean,
I've been I haven't been shy of discussing periods of
my career why I went through confidence issues. But I
was a young young player in my first and second
year in the NFL. My second year in the NFL,
I'm starting my hometown, I'm playing for Josh McDaniels, and
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I'm getting told one hundred and fifty eight times per
day how terrible of a player I am. And at
some point I started to believe the words that were
being said about me, you know. And it was a miserable,
miserable experience. I mean, I lost confidence of myself. I
hated football. There was at one point I thought I
was going to quit football. And it took me a
(26:30):
change of scenery. It took me a coach that gave
me external validation, and it took enough internal wins to
turn that around. You know. But I was a young guy,
right which the opposite of that. By the time I
got to my later years, Dude, I was oozing in confidence.
I mean, I don't think it was too like. I
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don't think I was irrational about it. I always knew
my limitations as a football player. But I mean, I'd
been through it all. I'd seen it all, I'd played
them all. So to be on the back end of
your career feeling that way, that's that's a different place,
right mm hmm. I heard you guys' conversation about how
do you handle it? I don't know, dude. I mean,
(27:13):
everybody's different and and I this might even sound weak
minded for me. I needed somebody else to tell me
I'm good. I did. I need. I needed a coach
that believed in me. I needed to go to Seattle
and have Tom Cable tell me that there's no difference
between me and Russell Okum. I needed somebody that could
they could that could help me knowing I was struggling
(27:35):
with some confidence issues and help me power through it.
I wish I could say it was as simple as
just doing it intrinsically. I wish I could say it
was something that that could be done purely internal, But
sometimes it does take a belief. Honestly, to answer your
question that I heard you guys talking about, would you
just keep putting him back out there or not? Yeah? Yeah,
I would?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You would?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I would? I mean, because at this point I don't
need to punish the guy further by by taking him
away from the game. The season's lost. He's not good
enough if you take him out, right, which is what
you just talked about, right, I mean I I would
just pat this dude on the back. I'd give him
all the love in the world. Uh, and I'd keep
him in the rotation. I mean, what the hell is
the point of embarrassing that, Like you, the organization's embarrassed.
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You're not embarrassing us, Austin. That's what I would tell him. Hey,
you're not doing anything to make this club like embarrassed.
We suck. We suck, and and and and so, yeah,
we got your back, brother.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You know, the Rockies have just let two older guys
catchers just go this year. Recently, Austin Nola was let go,
and uh, I'm forgetting the name, but he he actually
threw for Actually Nola threw too. So the two guys
that had position players that pitched have both been released
by the team because you know, they weren't that great
(28:51):
and they wanted to develop new guys. So what's the
difference between that and a thirty two year old pitcher
who's kind of you know, doesn't have a stuff anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
What's the difference, Hey, that you don't have one hundred
pitchers growing off the vine and be catchers probably are.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Well, there's always amen, always double A, and there's always
triple A, and there's guys. I mean, there's always got Hey,
we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Forty man. Call op hasn't started yet, has it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It doesn't start till September. But we're only ten days
away from that.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, but you do that now and guess what then
you got to pay somebody guy, they lose a year
of eligibility or whatever it is to the negotiation, and
the Rockies are about that.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I'm not anti Austin Gomber, by the way, And if
you think, hey, the best thing is to pat him on,
I think there are they are being supportive of them.
The guys owned seven on the season. You know, he
has not won a game all year and he's been
you know, regularly put out there. So I don't think
he's in a like we're being harsh on you situation.
But I feel for the dude because I understand players
(29:50):
have a I mean, did you guys ever have teammates
that came out and said that to the media, like,
I don't have any confidence of myself. I don't know
what I'm doing. I feel lost out there.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I I don't know about like directly to the media,
but definitely have had teammates that have been like, dude,
I need help. Yeah, for sure, I have. Well, I
have never that I can reflect on. Dude, you again,
I go and you talk about it because Tyler, I
(30:21):
don't know. This is a young team. You got, you know,
maybe a future ahead of this team. What a great
chance for growth internally from this team. A guy stepping
up and said, listen, I know he's a veteran, but
he needs he needs support. Dog. You know, this would
be a great opportunity to see if your manager is legit.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Well, I guess that's a fascinating thing as an athlete too.
At one point do you believe in a teammate and
what point do you not believe in teammates? Like do
you always believe in a teammate just because they're your teammate,
or do you know, guys just don't have it anymore.
I mean, you guys know better than me, that's for sure.
And you know you're you're competing at the highest level.
(30:59):
You know, it's not just you know, hey, we grew
up in the neighborhood together. We're competing. This guy might cost.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Us, Yeah, but I disagree with that. He's not costing
them anything. It's over. The whole season's gone. It's so
what's he costed you?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Jack Squatt, Well, I'm just talking about a bigger sort
of picture, you know, like confidence in your teammates. You know,
if you if a guy okay, let me just take
him out of it. Guy comes up to you, he
expresses he doesn't Who is that guy on the Broncos,
the offensive lineman who was caught on Mike saying I
don't have it, I you know, to an X teammate,
You remember that Watson? I think, yeah, I think it
(31:39):
was I think no, no.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
No, no, it was Donald Stevenson.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh okay, okay, okay. And he was caught on I
don't know what I'm doing out here. And then one
of his ex teammates.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Like Sam Donald was big on that when he was
a quarterback with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm seeing ghosts. I mean, are you guys good with teammates?
So just you're like, hey, man, you'll get over it.
It's hanging there you'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, No, listen, I've had guys in shooting slumps that
you can see that their dobbers down. But every good
team I've been on, as you've always had multiple guys
picking them up. Right. You know, I'll go back to
and we Maybe it means nothing, but Miles Garrett to
Shadur in that first game, you know they're playing and teasing.
I want to feel what it feels like you get
(32:23):
hit by you and you don't want that. You know, Hey,
we're gonna need you, and we're gonna need you this year. Right,
Just that little comment like that goes a long ways. Right,
if a guy like Miles Garrett came to you, it's
a dog get up, y'all right, because we're gonna need
you this year. Yep? What would that done for you?
A lot? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I guess as a teammate, what do you got to
lose except for being supportive, especially when somebody else is
going to make that decision. It's not gonna be up
to you anyway, it's a good teammate, then it's a
good teammate.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I do think that things change based off how competitive
a team you are, Like when you ask do you
ever lose belief in Look, I've been on bad teams
and I know what it's like, and at that point
there's a bonding in the suck disc that you're you're
over like it's not that you're not trying, it's not
that you're not competing, but you're over the embarrassment of losing.
(33:16):
And now it's like it's almost about protecting each other sanity.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, maybe that's the case, all right, no dumb questions
three oh three, five, four oh ninety two five. We'll
also get back to what the Broncos did in practice
here for some of the coordinators coming up as well.
It's PhD On ninety two.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
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Speaker 3 (33:38):
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Speaker 2 (33:55):
Uh, there was a mock draft tiler that had argument.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Draft Yeah, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
They had arch Manning going number one to the Browns.
No dumb question. If the Browns have the number one
pick and next year's.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
She said, he's staying in school.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
If the Browns have the number one pick in the draft,
what does that say? What happened to Shadur's year with
the Browns?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Uh? I don't know. I mean, I know, I've kind
of facetiously maybe not facetiously. Maybe I'm serious. I'm not
quite sure what I am on it. Penpointed that Miami
game for the Browns, which is Week five, as what
could be a turning point for the Browns where they
(34:43):
turned on Joe Flacco because if they start the season No.
One four, which is very realistic. I can't remember what
the schedule was. It was like Bengals, Ravens. I don't know.
It was four really good, four really really good teams
that you're like, yeah, they're losing all four of those games. Well, okay,
Shader gets input it in week five? Uh? Does should
Sanders even get input at any pointer? Is it Dylan Gabriel?
(35:05):
So I don't know how to answer that question, dude.
I mean, say, by the time say Dylan Gabriel gets
the first crack, okay, and they maybe they do bench
Joe Flacco in week five, Dylan Gabriel is the next
man up. Well, he's gonna get four or five games
in there until they're like, well, this guy sucks. Also,
let's give Sanders a crack at this thing. So it
(35:28):
might not mean much of anything about Shaudar Sanders season
because he might only play in three or four games.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
But when they well, this mock has him draft in
arch Manning, so it has them drafted on quarterback and
what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Then well, yeah, you're done right.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So the first four games of the Browns, I thought
I thought.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
You were asked about how he played. But but yeah,
you're right. Of course, if you draft Archie, he's.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Toast Bengals at Ravens, home Packers at Lions.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah good luck.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah you could be owing four.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
But but but don't you don't you say, if you're
Paul or dad or uncle or uncle, hey, you know
you still got eligibility. Do you want to go to
Cleveland or stay at Texas and make eight million dollars?
I know we always bring up that conversation, and I'm
always like, guess who you're gonna go to the next year,
another really really horrible organization? Would you rather go, especially
(36:18):
with man in history, to a lousy New Orleans team
or a lousy Cleveland team. I don't know. I mean,
I guess New Orleans sounds pretty cool because I'm a Manning.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Right, Grandpa and Grandma lived there, and it's they're Mannings
in New Orleans, I guess. But there's what's the guarantees
that Orans is going to be there?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, listen, if you got if you gotta go to
a Suckey team, give me a Suckey team. It's a
little warmer than Cleveland. Where give me Carolina or Tennessee or.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Well, there's something roa dome.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Have you guys heard Johnny Manziel just trashing in the
city of Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, he's honest. He's easy, but I'm honest.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
I've been catching a lot of his podcast stuff on
Instagram or TikTok or whatever. Yeah, it's actually kind of
an interesting podcast. He brings on good guests and they
talk about deep subjects. I mean, I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I do too. I wonder where he is mentally in
life sometimes, but hopefully he's doing all right. He's an
interesting he's an interesting personality.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I can't tell if that dude is sober if he's
still on one? Dude?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
They had that Netflix documentary about him, and most documentaries,
in all honesty kind of end like and this is
how that.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
One needed about four more episodes that one.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Don't you like that one ended? I was like, is
he gonna kill himself? Like it just sort of ended,
and I'm like, wait a second, is he all right?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
They could have done easily four more episodes with that.
It was a great documentary, but it definitely felt like
they left a lot of stuff out.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
No dumb question on the text line shot mans the
text line, why doesn't the NFL push back all afternoon
kickoffs until two thirty or three o'clock to allow four
morning games to completely finish two zero five kickoffs continually?
Interfew was watching the end of morning games. Well, well,
a lot of games do kick off at two twenty five.
They don't all kick off at two five.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Well, you know what else that would help with that,
like awkward hour break that we all hate before the
nighttime game because we just want to go straight into
more football. And then we got yeah, I would like that.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Well, they do that because they sell advertisements on the
pregame shows. There for the Sunday night thing. I know
what you're talking about though, Yeah, yeah, sure, But but.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Do you guys not always feel like you just want
to go straight into another game.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
That's how I feel, of course. But they do torture
you with postgame and pregames, but they're not going to
change that they're there.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's well, then that's probably your answer very much on
why why did they do it? That's probably the answer
because they got a leave time for that. Yeah, I really,
But I mean the question seems pretty logical to me.
Why do you want the crossover time there? Because there
are games that are indeed while your game is beginning.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Here's a no doub question. I saw a guy at
Starbucks today, no phone, no tablet, no laptop. He just
sat there drinking coffee. Is he a psychopath?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Oh, he's definitely planning a murder at ten.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I have never thought of that. I don't know if
I've ever gone into a Starbucks in the past five
years where somebody isn't on a device, if they're by themselves.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I do that all the.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Time, by yourself. And you don't take No, you got
your phone.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I don't believe you.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
No.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I on the road. I try to do it on purpose.
If they'll have a little coffee shop or something, but
you bring a book, I'll go down there with a book.
That doesn't that's my thing, by the way, But I'm
now into going to the coffee shops and reading books.
I dig it, That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
But but you've got you guys to be there. You
got a book, and I want to get out of
the room.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I don't want to just sit there and drink the
coffee up in the room. But this psycho path was
just sitting there.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Because legs crossed, just drinking cum.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Maybe he got the window. Maybe he's got a job
where he's on it all day. He just needs ten
minutes of just electronic peace. Yeah, don't you guys ever
do that? No, yeah, with the book. But I don't
just sit.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
There, No, do what just to sit there and stare up.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
At me, me and my thoughts. My brain is scary.
I don't like being in my brain. I find myself
more and more isolating away from the phone and just saying.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Are you just like Forrest Gums sitting on the front
porch with your hands on your staring wondering if you're
gonna start running medications.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
The any thing is I'm trying to do that and
be present with my family.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Well that's what's playing roadblocks.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
And the warden's sitting there doing her Facebook stuff and
I'm like, the one time in I ever have that
is I'm trying to do a little quiet time with God.
But that only last about ten or fifteen minutes. Back.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
What's that movie for the guys out of his launchair
staring off in his space and the sprinklers just spraying
on his like his pants. Gods should turn it? What
the heck is that?
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I want to say it was Connair when he was
sitting by the empty pool, or I think you might
be right something like that, sitting on the launch air.
There's something wrong. Yeah, I don't know, man. Of course
those guys are prisoners, have been locked up in the
big house and they gotta go out. You don't think
you want to sit down just damn. I don't know.
There was something similar to that, And you had the
(41:27):
dude that was eating kids sitting there talking to a
little kid too.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
So I don't know, man, it might freak me out
a little bit if I just saw a guy in
the coffee shop, just seriously drinking cone.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
He's either planning a robbery or a murder, one of
the two. I think that's peaceful. I think that's unbelievable.
He's definitely casing the place.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I can't tell you last time I saw it.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
If I'm the manager, I'm kicking that dude out. You
are casing my restaurant right now. You are not allowed
to be here.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Do you think we could go into a coffee shop
right now and find anybody doing that?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
No, they have them are on their computer and doing
work or whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I gotcha. I'm not saying it's a perfect I have.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
A nice little peaceful just no noise, but let's be yes.
I do enjoy that, and I try to do that
every single morning. I try to start my morning with
a cup of coffee, sitting on my porch outside, get
a little sunlight on me. I'm talking to God. But
I can only that can only happen. That can only
last about ten or fifteen minutes before I need something
(42:29):
to do. I get about five fifteen. I'm that guy
right there till about seven until everybody wakes up. You
stare off for an hour, and I'm calling such BS
on that I'm calling a BS.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Hour, just staring thoughts.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Nobody can sit there for an hour. Oh I could,
but no, I sit there and I'll read and think and.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Again reading different music is different, all right, But you
take ten minutes doing, then you gotta do something that's.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Not what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm sitting there in
silence without anything. I'll read out on my almost every day.
I read on my porch for an hour and a half,
two hours almost every day. Yeah, there's nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I'll tell you what I'll do in pretty hot lately.
I'll go the is there a coffee shop around here?
What are you gonna go? Film yourself? That doesn't count.
I'll leave at the top of the hour, and I'll
leave all my stuff in the car, and then I'll
check in with you guys at uh in the crosstop
at three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
There's the star fucks like down the road.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
You know, I could just go up to Chick fil
A and just get a soda, same thing and just.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
The same thing. And no, no, no, this is a
coffee shop, but it's the same thing. No, no, no, no, no.
People go to Chick fil A and coffee shops for
two really different reasons.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Well so exactly. So if I went there and just
order a soda and setting the booth by myself, is
that not straight? Yes? If the food's all gone, yes,
if you're eating, No, I'm not gonna eat. I'm just
gonna get a soda and then we'll just go sit there.
Don't you ever Guys like to sit there and watch people.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I guess not.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
I've never planned a murder before.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
I think.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I get on my bike. I'm trying to stay healthy,
but there's there's some negative sort of reasons why. I
like getting outside every day and pushing yourself just a
little bit every day and having some thoughts. But I'm
doing that. I got my earbuds in. I'm listening to
the station or something else or whatever's music or whatever.
Even even on my bike, I've got something else happening.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Maybe that's just my problem. But if I saw a
dude at a Starbucks and he just had his legs
crossed and was staring into space with a like a lot,
I'd get I'd leave. Ye, there's something going on there.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I'm driving tonight up the Aspen, right.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
I look forward to it because I can sit there.
Music don't need a loud just down low yeah, and
just silence being the music, the car, hume of the
road whatever whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, okay, no dombe question.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
But does it not bother you? Because when I get
in the car, I feel like I just want to
just veg and just let's just go. Then all of
a sudden, someone's simiciding talking the whole freaking time.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Would you rather have somebody with you for three four
hours to Aspen or buy yourself.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
By myself by myself? For sure? I am a big introvert.
I just like piece and quiet. I don't know you
guys ain't in my around me.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I got something like I got something going on tonight,
like I'm not sure if I'm gonna do it or
not because I want to see Sho heeo Tani pitch,
but I know my wife isn't really interesting going to
the Rockies, and I'm like, I should just go. If
I want to go, I should just go. Sure, And
then like when he's done pitching, I you know, just.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Leave, so in the eighth inning and you could leave
and he.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Ain't going eight that'd be a hell of a game,
but you know what I'm saying. But anyways, whatever, let's
get back to the Broncos. What you saw in practice today,
that's coming up next
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Tyler will be back from practice here in seconds, so
we look forward to hearing all about the Broncos. We're
in the back of in Shanker Studios. Their passion, it's justice. Hey,
fill in this sentence. Let's have a little fun with this.
Bill Tyler gets back, and uh, we can focus in
on the Broncos. Show Hayes on the bump tonight for
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the Dodgers. Fill this blanket three oh three, five four nine.
Going to watch show heyo, Tawny pitch is like seeing blank,
do blank or play blank? One of those things is
like what seeing showy show? Hey o, Tawny pitch.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Is like what magic playing basketball? Is it? Why?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Magic?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
La A lot of other really good okay, all right,
all right, a.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Little a little different for his time. But what he did,
I mean, he wasn't he wasn't conventional point guard. He
was six or nine, right, m hm, A little unconventional,
a little bit different, a little different here.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Possibly the best ever.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well he's in. He's in, you know, top five, top ten.
I mean, Joey o'tani is he the best ever?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
When you hear like, well, Spilly says so on the
broadcast all the time. So this is the best guy
to ever put on a baseball uniform. I mean I've
heard him say it multiple times. Now, whether you agree
or not, that's up to you. It's just an opinion.
But that's why I'm asking the question. Going to see
show heyo tany pitch is like what now, I'm well,
have you played against Michael Jordan? I was lucky to
(01:54):
see Michael Jordan. I was lucky to see Kobe Bryant
in person, Lebron James, Larry Bird, Magic, Magic, Sure you
know Magic hold on. I gotta think about that. Well, yeah,
but that's against I didn't. I didn't. I didn't have
tickets like the NBA Finals. I don't know if I
ever did see Magic play in person. I might not
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have actually, but we can get back to it later.
We just kill a little time till Tyler got back here. Anyways,
so well we can continue that a little bit, but
that is happening later tonight. He's he's arguably the best
of all time and seeing somebody who's is like, you know,
watching Da Vinci paint, you know, something like that. Is
it is it?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Like?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Is it something like just beyond just sports itself.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I'm always reluctant to put a guy who's currently playing
in the best of all Time. Okay, you know he
has another elbow injury, and then he becomes a hitter,
hell of a hitter. Yeah, got a little power.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, didn't pitch last year at all. So he's pitching.
It's not that he's just hitting, says, he's pitching. We
can get to it later, Tyler, Welcome back for practice.
How how was the deal out there today?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, it was. It was a hot one for sure.
Felt to be like the guys were grinding a little bit.
To be honest with you, I mean it's hot. Those
days do affect you sometimes it's hard to break the
energy when you're just zapped like that. Are you a
fan of orange? You find a fan of white, Well,
I'd like to see that White do better.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I had orange in high school, the Tigers. I had
Orange literally is the nickname of my college. And I
am been a Broncos fan for twenty six years. All right,
So I guess I'm partial to Orange.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Your team defense reluctantly, yes, okay, well team defense out
of day.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, all right, so I'm tem Orange.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah yeah, team defense definitely out of day yesterday. Look,
I'm totally transparent, totally honest with you guys. Yesterday it
was a great day for the offense. It was another
good day for bow Nicks. Today was not nearly as crisp.
It started out pretty decent for bo. I had the
elevated view again, and so I actually was able to
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kind of chart a few of the periods, and you know,
they they started out practice with a team run period.
I'll say this, it sure appears to me like Tyler
Braday has got that number three spotty. I mean, he's
clearly the third man in just about every single time,
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they are giving fewer and fewer reps to the twos
and the threes over the last couple of days. Team
run period, I thought the O line created some holes
and it was pretty decent. Then they went to a
third down period and bow was five of seven on
his completions, four to seven on converting the first down right,
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So so third down period, it was a pretty good
period for him. But it ended on a on a
sour note. Not necessarily a terrible throw from bow knicks,
but a one of those that Evan Ingram. He's totally out.
He's reached out as far as he possibly can with
his left hand tip ball interception. It was not it
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was not a great ball. It wasn't a terrible ball,
but it did lead to an interception. Steady Scott, you'll
be happy to hear. Yeah, you'll be no, no, no, no,
you'll be happy to hear steady and regress today, Steady
uh in the third down period was putting too much
in the limelight. Well, you know you're the only one
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rooting for his demise. You're the only one here. He
was over three, Sam Aliger was over one in the
third down period. I keep going here, but I'll give
you guys to catch up. But they were playing music
during the team periods today, and they were alternating between
music and crowd noise, getting ready for crowd noise. So
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that was a new thing today. We have not had
any music or any crowd noise.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Bring more energy.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
No, no, no. It felt to me like the guys
were zapped. It really really did. What else, man, what
else had another period, uh Bo had a chance for
a really cool play with Pat Bryant, scrambled up the middle,
stopped just short of the line of scrimmage, launched it deep,
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probably fifty yards ish, give or take, but overthrew pap
By like ten yards and and and it was. It
was a walk in touchdown. Again. Not the easiest of throws.
You know, you're you're scrambling, You're you're you're moving up
in the pocket, you're you're trying to be aware of
the line of scrimmage, all those sorts of things. But
it was kind of crazy how far you overthrew them.
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I mean kind of crazy. You know, those are the
ones you get it stop, get your heartbeat right in
a matter of what one point two seconds and then
going on a dime. Yeah yeah. Uh They did continue
just random spots throughout practice to continue the work in
the no huddle. It would just be like a player
or two here that would stay on the line of scrimmage,
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run another plate. Uh So that's a couple days in
a row of a lot of know how to work
and then they you know, to wrap up practice. I
charted the whole thing. I don't know if you want
the whole thing, but the two minutes raill to wrap
up practice. Sure, thirty eight seconds, you're down twenty one
to fourteen. You got one timeout, balls on the fifty.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
All right, we gotta get a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Gotta get it, Gotta get a tuddy first plass, first
pass deep to Courtland Sutton incomplete. Second, second down, you
got a troutman crossing route, gain of five or six yards,
gets out of bounds, does his job. Okay, Third down, sack.
We're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Got timeout.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I guess we do have a timeout, we haven't used it.
Some questionable clock management. The clock was not ticking very quickly,
I'll tell you that much. But trouble, Yeah, real game.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Fifty yard line, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah. I didn't chart exactly where it was, but
that sounds.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
About right right. Yeah, you're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Fourth down, it was fourth and six, and he does
convert it with a quick slant to Courtland Sutton. Okay,
drives alive. Okay. Again, questionable clock management here, because somehow
we've still got twenty seven seconds on the clock and
we only started with thirty eight with a sack. Not
entirely sure how that works, and not using Timeoutka, but
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you know what, we'll take the twenty seven seconds and
we're not going to complain because we're an offensive minded group.
Right second down in zone shot Marvin mems and complete
third down. We got fourteen seconds left. Bo scrambles for
fifteen timeout. Probably Zach Allen sack. But big game. Now
we're probably on the twelve fifteen yard line.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
How much time.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
After that play? We've got six six seconds left?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You might have time for two plays? Maybe yes, maybe yes?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Six seconds left? I wrote time for one TV shot.
Should have definitely been an interception to Jake Lon McMillan.
He just dropped it, flat out dropped it, so probably
should have walked off on an interception there. One second
is miraculously still on the clock.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
How about that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I don't know how the hell it happened, but I
mean it's amazing how there's just one second that is
still on that clock.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
This is certainly gonna be the last play. We've got
another crack of this thing. All right, let's go two
touchdown attempts, one second left.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh my gosh, Bo, what are you doing? You want
to talk about? You want to talk about ultimate? Russell
Wilson like just zero pocket presence, brain fart. Mike mclinchey
has got Jonathan Cooper locked up, I mean fully extended
arms out locked up. Bo's looking down the field, and
he decides to just drift out to the right and
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try to go by himself some time, and I mean
just walks directly into Jonathan Cooper or sack practice over all.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right, Well, more of the defense is pretty good.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, let's look at that one question before.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Of course, of course, did you.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
See Kevin Coward out there? Was he out there practice?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Colin Cowhard?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I did not see Colin Coward, you said.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, Scot's referring to the fact that Coward as predicted
the Broncos to be the fourth.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Best team from what he's seen. I saw that, and
I'm like, yeah, what's he seen from what he's heard? Yeah? No,
I you just said that in fact of being better
more clear from what I heard from Sean Payton. Yeah,
but don't tell me what you've seen when you've been
out there. I've been up there ten eleven times and
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and he ain't out there. I ain't seen nothing. Yeah,
you know, this team is pretty hard to predict. I
see somebody say bye, mister negative. Okay, I mean, look,
do you do you want to know what happened to
practice or not? Yesterday I was ultraed, I was glowing,
I was glossing bow dicks. I was telling you it
was good. Uh, today was bad. But this is why
this team is so hard to predict, because look, if
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you're a fan of good defense, we're have great defense,
right and that should put us in a lot of
ball games. That should give us a chance to win
a lot of games. What will this offense become will
be the question. I think that's the only thing to answer.
And I don't think you're gonna get it answered Saturday,
and I'm not sure that you'll get it answered until
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who was it the first game? Tennessee?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Tennessee. Let me ask you, Tyler, can you really replicate
those pressure situations in practice? Does it? Does it feel
like a game?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I think two minute drill always does it? Does? Yes?
Because that's that's especially as an offensive lineman. That's that's
tough living man.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That is tough living even in practice.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh hell yes, because defense is just tee and off.
They they're they're not even remotely playing the run. It's
just that that's a scary moment of practice.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Does success or failure in two minutes in practice often
replicate what happens in the real world in games? Or
is it just or is it impossible to bring it well?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I do think it can be a good indicator, you know,
a successful two minute drive. It's not about big plays.
It's about that play on second down that you threw
it out to Trout mean right. It's about that six
yard crossing route that you got out of bounds, right.
It's about that five yard quick slant to Courtland Sutton
getting on the ball and not eating up two clock
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too much clock. It's about efficiency. So I do think
you get a pretty good clue of how efficient the
crew can be. I don't think it was a bad
two minute drill. The clock management was questionable and it
gave them some extra opportunities in there, but they just
stalled out when they needed it the most.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
All right, well, we'll hear from some of the coordinators
coming up. They spoke to some of the muggles off
to the side, so we'll track that down for you
to hear what they have to say about life in
the fast lane. Plus a question if you were to
start an NFL team. Best player in the NFL right now,
who's not a quarterback? It's PhD On ninety two to five.
Appreciate you listening. I did not watch Hard Knocks last night.
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I don't know if you did or not.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
No, I did not. I'm done. I watched the first two.
They were terrible. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
If you watch another one and you tell me it
got good, I'll watch it again. But someone's gonna have
to give me a reason to watch it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I got. I got started watching the.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I want your take on the Austin Gomer thing too,
in a little bit too. I'm curious where you come
from it. But I'm watching the Netflix Cowboys thing.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You know, I'm a sucker for drama, Ain't no doubt
about it, whether it's real or not. But it is
always so good when it's real.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And like that Dallas Cowboys team. What are your memories
of that early nineties Cowboys team?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Man? I got to see him in the Super Bowl
in Atlanta when they just crushed the Bills. Close game,
I think at first half and then the second half,
third quarter, they just they had their smoked him. My
brother's the biggest Cowboy fans. When I grew up in Kansas,
you got your AFC game of the week was always
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the Chiefs and your NFC game was always the Cowboys.
So I have one brother who's like a die hard
Chiefs fan, another brother who's a die hard Cowboys fan.
So I always followed him, you know, always liked him.
It was a thrill one time when I got to
meet Roger Staubach. I always thought that was cool, right,
Well that goes back, yeah, yeah, well that was when
I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You know, I had forgotten how bad Tom Landry was
as a coach at the end, Like he is revered,
but at the end he was terrible.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, he stayed kind of old school.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He didn't know guys names. He was falling asleep in meetings,
he was he was awful.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
How old was he?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I don't know, man, But like it wasn't good. Like
it was not a difficult decision for Jerry Jones to
move on from Tom Landers.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know. One of this sidebar Woody pages one of
his great back when he was a columnist with the Post.
Right when when Tom Landry died, he did almost a
eulogy on his on his side post was always on
the side of the paper, right, And it was a
story about his mom. Has mom always liked him because
he always Tom always dressed night and the coat and
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the tie and all these other coaches are wearing. But
it was like a whole story of Tom Landry's career
from the eyes.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Of his mom.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It was one of the great articles I've ever ever read.
But yeah, I think Tim Tom or when Jerry Bob
bought the team. I'm sure they went as far back
to that, right.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh yeah, you know they bought the line changes. Oh
they called it the Saturday Massacre.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's like two hundred million, right, one.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Hundred and fifty five.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And but hold on, when they spent that, they thought
he was crazy, they did, yep, And he made that
up within the first year.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, he he. It's just so funny seeing things that
don't feel like it that long ago. But I guess
they were. Emmett Smith had a holdout. Do you know
what he was holding out? Nineteen eighty nine?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, so right before the Hey Day?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, they were they were bad. They were bad.
And the first two years that he owned it, they
were bad. And then it sort of clicked in they
were bad with Jimmy Johnson. In the first year with
Jimmy Johnson, wasn't right right away, and then you know
when he's.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Blown out legends like take you know, Hank tex Shram.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh in his first press conference, Jerry Jones in his
first press goes, yeah, I don't I don't want to
be the coach. I want that guy's job. And he
points at the general manager, Tex shram who he consequently fired,
you know, shortly thereafter. But he actually said it. Jerry
Jones is a hoot man. You can say whatever you
want about that dude, but he is high entertainment and
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uh he is in a certain way. He's the most awesome.
Emmett Smith had a hold out. Now, this does remind
me of what's going on right now with Michael Parsons.
Jerry Jones prides himself on digging his heels in, like
that's that's where he feels he's the best. EMMITTT. Smith
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leading Russia for two years, wins a Super Bowl with
Dallas without a doubt, the best running back in the
NFL playing on a rookie contract, wants to redo his deal.
Sounding familiar, Michael Parsons Okay, Jerry just says, forget it,
We'll just move on to a rookie. They start ohing two.
And had they not started ohing two, I don't know
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if a deal would have got done. Emma had been sitting,
you know, and they had just won the Super Bowl.
Emmittt Steel that he finally settled for to be the
highest paid running back. You're ready for this? Nineteen nine?
Why'd you take a guess first? Nineteen ninety two, ninety
three something. So it's a four year contract, give me
the money?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh, total hold of money for four years?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Ten ten, Scott four years.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Eight million.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, okay, thirteen point six because Thurman Thomas had a
four year, thirteen point five million deal. But still, so
I guess I'm going a little bit over what you
guys are guessing.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Well, you made he made me want to guess low?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I guess so, But thirteen six for four years? Yeah,
and that that was the top. That was like.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Whoa yea three million.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Jerry Jones didn't want to pay it. He pays it.
They win another super Bowl and m Smith is, you know,
on multip fantastic. But this Michael Parson's thing, you know,
this thing I could see this lingering a little bit, man,
I could see Jerry Jones pushing this. Certainly has a
history of it.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah. I heard Adam Schefter talking about it yesterday and
he felt like the things leading towards a divorce. I
don't know, man, it seems to me like they're just
gonna pay the man. But they do still have the
franchise tag, so I mean, if he really wants to
dig his heels in, all right, Mike, get how about
you lose a year of service doesn't count towards anything.
You're further behind, you don't get anything towards your pension.
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And oh, by the way, on the back end of
that thing, yeah, we still got that franchise tag twice.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
So how big of a ripple effect do you think
this will? Do? You really think for Nick Benito, nothing
will happen until Michael Parson sells itself out.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Well, I mean, if it goes that long, no, no,
I mean they're they're not gonna wait an entire year
plus to get a deal done. But I mean, yeah,
I think that they're still holding out for it and
seeing what's gonna happen here, and you know, maybe maybe
you hold out until the end of training camp, and
if Michael Parsons doesn't get that deal done, maybe you
re engage. But for now, there's no reason to be
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in a rush because the money's only gonna go up
with each new contract.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
There was a question out there Dan Dan put it
in the old group text, if you were a side quarterback,
who's the best player in the NFL. This is a
tricky one to me because we got it. It's context
to me, actually, Matt, like, you know, is this who
I'm starting my team with? Is this who makes the
most plays? Is this who's the best defender? I mean,
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what what what matters the most? So it was like, well, okay,
how do you really want to find it? First of all?
Should just throw it out there? Do you think you
can define it? Do you think you can just say, okay,
take away quarterback? Here is the next here is the
best player in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Man, it's tough. I mean, I'd be tempted to go
with Saquon Barkley. I'd be tempted to go with uh,
Dustin Jefferson. He's up there for sure. You know, typically speaking,
when you don't go QB, it feels like you almost
always end up on a pass rusher, right, But the
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pass rushers, I think that there's not a clear separation
of who the best pass rusher in the NFL is anymore.
You know, it was TJ Watt for a while, it
was JJ Watt for a while. You know, it was
Aaron Donald for a long time. We've got we've got
a cluster of guys, Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, all these guys. Yeah,
and Trey Hendricksons certainly in the mix. They are all
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just like they're they're they're the best group in the NFL.
But could you really define who the best of them are?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I think it's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
The funny thing is if you'd ask this question six
years ago, I mean there was talk Aaron Donald winning
an MVP. I mean he was, he was that good.
I don't think there was when he was in his role.
Was there any question he was probably the best non
quarterback player in the end, No, No, he was the He
was the best player in the NFL for years and years.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
If you want to go by pay, a receiver would
be the choice, I suppose. Yeah, And if we're just
getting taken the quarterback out of it, the way the
NFL operates these days.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
If you really put me on the spot, I had
to pick a guy, I guess I'd picked Miles Garrett.
But then you look at it, You're like, well, what's
that doing for the brown So what's the best player
in the world doing for the Browns? I don't know.
It doesn't mean he's not the best player in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know, it's funny. I'll go back to that Cowboy document.
They had Michael Irvin, they were one and fifteen. They
had Troy Iigman, they were one and fifteen. You know,
it's a weird question, right, So it might be Miles Garrett. Seriously,
he just the rest of it kind of is kind
of whatever. I mean, that's what makes football so great,
by the way, because it's the ultimate team sport.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
People well, and it's changed to the quarterback is so
so instrumental.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's so ridiculous about every team.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You know, if we go back thirty five years ago
to the Cowboys, you can't you can't put Roger Staubach
in there. Tony door Seve would be voted, or maybe
Hollywood Henderson or one of.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Their really changed the Cowboys as this documentary shows it's
Charles Haley, and he had mental problems, There's no doubt
about it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well, he had mental problems for Super Bowls in San
Francisco and Super Bowls in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He just straight up has that's true, but he boiled it. Now.
I have no idea, but he was interviewed for the documentary,
so at least he's with us, you know. And he
was unbelievable as a player. Sometimes you talk about hey
players and the game is so much better now than
it was. There are some guys that, Tyler, don't you
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think could just play.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Oh, there's always gonna be players that could play in
any generation.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Charles Haley, I'm pretty convinced, would be a great player
in a head case, no matter. I think Michael Irvin
would be a great receiver. I think Emmitt Smith would
be a great running back. Troy Aikman would be a
great quarterback. Jerry Rice could play, Joe Montana could play.
There's some guys that just throughout time would always be
great players. I think.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
No, I agree with that. So, I mean, I think
the far Majordy would struggle in today's game. But there's
there's there's generational guys.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, it was pretty funny to see the old one.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I should say intergenerational.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I guess the Arkansas tape. Jerry Jones is a guard
and he might have gone, I don't know, two sixty maybe.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Oh, I don't big. I bet it was closer to
like two fifteen.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Uh, he would be bulked. I think he's gotta be
above two. He was actually kind of I mean puffy
a little bit. Then you see pictures of Jimmy Johnson,
who was I guess at defensive end, which is like
kind of a pretty squatty body for a pass rushing
defensive end or.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
What one when he when he was playing the University
of Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well it's a beefy one ninety five as a guard. Yeah,
that's great. It was nineteen sixty four, dude, Yeah, I
got you different times.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And invented chemicals.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Ship, that's crazy. He was really is it one ninety something? Okay? Nuts? Hey,
did you hear our conversation about Austin Gomber and that
whole thing?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I did hear some of it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You got any Just to recap Austin Gombers down on himself?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Oh yeah, just mak him bad pitches. You know, I
just feel like I'm in a tough spot right now.
You know, it's sex to let the team down, and
you know, more specifically the bullpen for sure. You know
we needed more length than that. I just couldn't provide it.
You know, I just feel like I'm just a little
bit lost out there right now. You know, don't really
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have any confidence conviction, really don't really have like an
identity of what I'm trying to do, you know, so
just trying to figure it out, man. And it's kind
of that's what it is, you know, Like I said,
it just doesn't and I don't really have a lot
of like belief in what I'm doing, so just kind
of like searching, you know as we go. So it's
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a tough place to be, you know, out there trying
to you know, figure out what's gonna work on the fly,
you know. But that's just kind of what I have
right now. So you know, we're trying to find it,
trying to find something to like grab on to and
go with, you know, but right now I'm just startling
to find that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, you know, it's something I can relate to he's
an a a radically different phase of his career. I mean,
I've been I haven't been shy of discussing periods of
my career why I went through confidence issues. But I
was a young young player in my first and second
year in the NFL. My second year in the NFL,
I'm starting my hometown, I'm playing for Josh McDaniels, and
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I'm getting told one hundred and fifty eight times per
day how terrible of a player I am. And at
some point I started to believe the words that were
being said about me, you know. And it was a miserable,
miserable experience. I mean, I lost confidence of myself. I
hated football. There was at one point I thought I
was going to quit football. And it took me a
(26:30):
change of scenery. It took me a coach that gave
me external validation, and it took enough internal wins to
turn that around. You know. But I was a young guy,
right which the opposite of that. By the time I
got to my later years, Dude, I was oozing in confidence.
I mean, I don't think it was too like. I
(26:51):
don't think I was irrational about it. I always knew
my limitations as a football player. But I mean, I'd
been through it all. I'd seen it all, I'd played
them all. So to be on the back end of
your career feeling that way, that's that's a different place,
right mm hmm. I heard you guys' conversation about how
do you handle it? I don't know, dude. I mean,
(27:13):
everybody's different and and I this might even sound weak
minded for me. I needed somebody else to tell me
I'm good. I did. I need. I needed a coach
that believed in me. I needed to go to Seattle
and have Tom Cable tell me that there's no difference
between me and Russell Okum. I needed somebody that could
they could that could help me knowing I was struggling
(27:35):
with some confidence issues and help me power through it.
I wish I could say it was as simple as
just doing it intrinsically. I wish I could say it
was something that that could be done purely internal, But
sometimes it does take a belief. Honestly, to answer your
question that I heard you guys talking about, would you
just keep putting him back out there or not? Yeah? Yeah,
I would?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You would?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I would? I mean, because at this point I don't
need to punish the guy further by by taking him
away from the game. The season's lost. He's not good
enough if you take him out, right, which is what
you just talked about, right, I mean I I would
just pat this dude on the back. I'd give him
all the love in the world. Uh, and I'd keep
him in the rotation. I mean, what the hell is
the point of embarrassing that, Like you, the organization's embarrassed.
(28:19):
You're not embarrassing us, Austin. That's what I would tell him. Hey,
you're not doing anything to make this club like embarrassed.
We suck. We suck, and and and and so, yeah,
we got your back, brother.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You know, the Rockies have just let two older guys
catchers just go this year. Recently, Austin Nola was let go,
and uh, I'm forgetting the name, but he he actually
threw for Actually Nola threw too. So the two guys
that had position players that pitched have both been released
by the team because you know, they weren't that great
(28:51):
and they wanted to develop new guys. So what's the
difference between that and a thirty two year old pitcher
who's kind of you know, doesn't have a stuff anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
What's the difference, Hey, that you don't have one hundred
pitchers growing off the vine and be catchers probably are.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Well, there's always amen, always double A, and there's always
triple A, and there's guys. I mean, there's always got Hey,
we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Forty man. Call op hasn't started yet, has it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It doesn't start till September. But we're only ten days
away from that.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, but you do that now and guess what then
you got to pay somebody guy, they lose a year
of eligibility or whatever it is to the negotiation, and
the Rockies are about that.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I'm not anti Austin Gomber, by the way, And if
you think, hey, the best thing is to pat him on,
I think there are they are being supportive of them.
The guys owned seven on the season. You know, he
has not won a game all year and he's been
you know, regularly put out there. So I don't think
he's in a like we're being harsh on you situation.
But I feel for the dude because I understand players
(29:50):
have a I mean, did you guys ever have teammates
that came out and said that to the media, like,
I don't have any confidence of myself. I don't know
what I'm doing. I feel lost out there.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I I don't know about like directly to the media,
but definitely have had teammates that have been like, dude,
I need help. Yeah, for sure, I have. Well, I
have never that I can reflect on. Dude, you again,
I go and you talk about it because Tyler, I
(30:21):
don't know. This is a young team. You got, you know,
maybe a future ahead of this team. What a great
chance for growth internally from this team. A guy stepping
up and said, listen, I know he's a veteran, but
he needs he needs support. Dog. You know, this would
be a great opportunity to see if your manager is legit.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Well, I guess that's a fascinating thing as an athlete too.
At one point do you believe in a teammate and
what point do you not believe in teammates? Like do
you always believe in a teammate just because they're your teammate,
or do you know, guys just don't have it anymore.
I mean, you guys know better than me, that's for sure.
And you know you're you're competing at the highest level.
(30:59):
You know, it's not just you know, hey, we grew
up in the neighborhood together. We're competing. This guy might cost.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Us, Yeah, but I disagree with that. He's not costing
them anything. It's over. The whole season's gone. It's so
what's he costed you?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Jack Squatt, Well, I'm just talking about a bigger sort
of picture, you know, like confidence in your teammates. You know,
if you if a guy okay, let me just take
him out of it. Guy comes up to you, he
expresses he doesn't Who is that guy on the Broncos,
the offensive lineman who was caught on Mike saying I
don't have it, I you know, to an X teammate,
You remember that Watson? I think, yeah, I think it
(31:39):
was I think no, no.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
No, no, it was Donald Stevenson.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh okay, okay, okay. And he was caught on I
don't know what I'm doing out here. And then one
of his ex teammates.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Like Sam Donald was big on that when he was
a quarterback with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm seeing ghosts. I mean, are you guys good with teammates?
So just you're like, hey, man, you'll get over it.
It's hanging there you'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, No, listen, I've had guys in shooting slumps that
you can see that their dobbers down. But every good
team I've been on, as you've always had multiple guys
picking them up. Right. You know, I'll go back to
and we Maybe it means nothing, but Miles Garrett to
Shadur in that first game, you know they're playing and teasing.
I want to feel what it feels like you get
(32:23):
hit by you and you don't want that. You know, Hey,
we're gonna need you, and we're gonna need you this year. Right,
Just that little comment like that goes a long ways. Right,
if a guy like Miles Garrett came to you, it's
a dog get up, y'all right, because we're gonna need
you this year. Yep? What would that done for you?
A lot? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I guess as a teammate, what do you got to
lose except for being supportive, especially when somebody else is
going to make that decision. It's not gonna be up
to you anyway, it's a good teammate, then it's a
good teammate.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I do think that things change based off how competitive
a team you are, Like when you ask do you
ever lose belief in Look, I've been on bad teams
and I know what it's like, and at that point
there's a bonding in the suck disc that you're you're
over like it's not that you're not trying, it's not
that you're not competing, but you're over the embarrassment of losing.
(33:16):
And now it's like it's almost about protecting each other sanity.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, maybe that's the case, all right, no dumb questions
three oh three, five, four oh ninety two five. We'll
also get back to what the Broncos did in practice
here for some of the coordinators coming up as well.
It's PhD On ninety two.
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Speaker 2 (33:55):
Uh, there was a mock draft tiler that had argument.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Draft Yeah, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
They had arch Manning going number one to the Browns.
No dumb question. If the Browns have the number one
pick and next year's.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
She said, he's staying in school.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
If the Browns have the number one pick in the draft,
what does that say? What happened to Shadur's year with
the Browns?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Uh? I don't know. I mean, I know, I've kind
of facetiously maybe not facetiously. Maybe I'm serious. I'm not
quite sure what I am on it. Penpointed that Miami
game for the Browns, which is Week five, as what
could be a turning point for the Browns where they
(34:43):
turned on Joe Flacco because if they start the season No.
One four, which is very realistic. I can't remember what
the schedule was. It was like Bengals, Ravens. I don't know.
It was four really good, four really really good teams
that you're like, yeah, they're losing all four of those games. Well, okay,
Shader gets input it in week five? Uh? Does should
Sanders even get input at any pointer? Is it Dylan Gabriel?
(35:05):
So I don't know how to answer that question, dude.
I mean, say, by the time say Dylan Gabriel gets
the first crack, okay, and they maybe they do bench
Joe Flacco in week five, Dylan Gabriel is the next
man up. Well, he's gonna get four or five games
in there until they're like, well, this guy sucks. Also,
let's give Sanders a crack at this thing. So it
(35:28):
might not mean much of anything about Shaudar Sanders season
because he might only play in three or four games.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
But when they well, this mock has him draft in
arch Manning, so it has them drafted on quarterback and
what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Then well, yeah, you're done right.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So the first four games of the Browns, I thought
I thought.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
You were asked about how he played. But but yeah,
you're right. Of course, if you draft Archie, he's.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Toast Bengals at Ravens, home Packers at Lions.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah good luck.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah you could be owing four.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
But but but don't you don't you say, if you're
Paul or dad or uncle or uncle, hey, you know
you still got eligibility. Do you want to go to
Cleveland or stay at Texas and make eight million dollars?
I know we always bring up that conversation, and I'm
always like, guess who you're gonna go to the next year,
another really really horrible organization? Would you rather go, especially
(36:18):
with man in history, to a lousy New Orleans team
or a lousy Cleveland team. I don't know. I mean,
I guess New Orleans sounds pretty cool because I'm a Manning.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Right, Grandpa and Grandma lived there, and it's they're Mannings
in New Orleans, I guess. But there's what's the guarantees
that Orans is going to be there?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, listen, if you got if you gotta go to
a Suckey team, give me a Suckey team. It's a
little warmer than Cleveland. Where give me Carolina or Tennessee or.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Well, there's something roa dome.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Have you guys heard Johnny Manziel just trashing in the
city of Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, he's honest. He's easy, but I'm honest.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
I've been catching a lot of his podcast stuff on
Instagram or TikTok or whatever. Yeah, it's actually kind of
an interesting podcast. He brings on good guests and they
talk about deep subjects. I mean, I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I do too. I wonder where he is mentally in
life sometimes, but hopefully he's doing all right. He's an
interesting he's an interesting personality.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I can't tell if that dude is sober if he's
still on one? Dude?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
They had that Netflix documentary about him, and most documentaries,
in all honesty kind of end like and this is
how that.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
One needed about four more episodes that one.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Don't you like that one ended? I was like, is
he gonna kill himself? Like it just sort of ended,
and I'm like, wait a second, is he all right?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
They could have done easily four more episodes with that.
It was a great documentary, but it definitely felt like
they left a lot of stuff out.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
No dumb question on the text line shot mans the
text line, why doesn't the NFL push back all afternoon
kickoffs until two thirty or three o'clock to allow four
morning games to completely finish two zero five kickoffs continually?
Interfew was watching the end of morning games. Well, well,
a lot of games do kick off at two twenty five.
They don't all kick off at two five.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Well, you know what else that would help with that,
like awkward hour break that we all hate before the
nighttime game because we just want to go straight into
more football. And then we got yeah, I would like that.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Well, they do that because they sell advertisements on the
pregame shows. There for the Sunday night thing. I know
what you're talking about though, Yeah, yeah, sure, But but.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Do you guys not always feel like you just want
to go straight into another game.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
That's how I feel, of course. But they do torture
you with postgame and pregames, but they're not going to
change that they're there.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's well, then that's probably your answer very much on
why why did they do it? That's probably the answer
because they got a leave time for that. Yeah, I really,
But I mean the question seems pretty logical to me.
Why do you want the crossover time there? Because there
are games that are indeed while your game is beginning.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Here's a no doub question. I saw a guy at
Starbucks today, no phone, no tablet, no laptop. He just
sat there drinking coffee. Is he a psychopath?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Oh, he's definitely planning a murder at ten.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I have never thought of that. I don't know if
I've ever gone into a Starbucks in the past five
years where somebody isn't on a device, if they're by themselves.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I do that all the.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Time, by yourself. And you don't take No, you got
your phone.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I don't believe you.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
No.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I on the road. I try to do it on purpose.
If they'll have a little coffee shop or something, but
you bring a book, I'll go down there with a book.
That doesn't that's my thing, by the way, But I'm
now into going to the coffee shops and reading books.
I dig it, That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
But but you've got you guys to be there. You
got a book, and I want to get out of
the room.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I don't want to just sit there and drink the
coffee up in the room. But this psycho path was
just sitting there.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Because legs crossed, just drinking cum.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Maybe he got the window. Maybe he's got a job
where he's on it all day. He just needs ten
minutes of just electronic peace. Yeah, don't you guys ever
do that? No, yeah, with the book. But I don't
just sit.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
There, No, do what just to sit there and stare up.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
At me, me and my thoughts. My brain is scary.
I don't like being in my brain. I find myself
more and more isolating away from the phone and just saying.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Are you just like Forrest Gums sitting on the front
porch with your hands on your staring wondering if you're
gonna start running medications.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
The any thing is I'm trying to do that and
be present with my family.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Well that's what's playing roadblocks.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
And the warden's sitting there doing her Facebook stuff and
I'm like, the one time in I ever have that
is I'm trying to do a little quiet time with God.
But that only last about ten or fifteen minutes. Back.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
What's that movie for the guys out of his launchair
staring off in his space and the sprinklers just spraying
on his like his pants. Gods should turn it? What
the heck is that?
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I want to say it was Connair when he was
sitting by the empty pool, or I think you might
be right something like that, sitting on the launch air.
There's something wrong. Yeah, I don't know, man. Of course
those guys are prisoners, have been locked up in the
big house and they gotta go out. You don't think
you want to sit down just damn. I don't know.
There was something similar to that, And you had the
(41:27):
dude that was eating kids sitting there talking to a
little kid too.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
So I don't know, man, it might freak me out
a little bit if I just saw a guy in
the coffee shop, just seriously drinking cone.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
He's either planning a robbery or a murder, one of
the two. I think that's peaceful. I think that's unbelievable.
He's definitely casing the place.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I can't tell you last time I saw it.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
If I'm the manager, I'm kicking that dude out. You
are casing my restaurant right now. You are not allowed
to be here.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Do you think we could go into a coffee shop
right now and find anybody doing that?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
No, they have them are on their computer and doing
work or whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I gotcha. I'm not saying it's a perfect I have.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
A nice little peaceful just no noise, but let's be yes.
I do enjoy that, and I try to do that
every single morning. I try to start my morning with
a cup of coffee, sitting on my porch outside, get
a little sunlight on me. I'm talking to God. But
I can only that can only happen. That can only
last about ten or fifteen minutes before I need something
(42:29):
to do. I get about five fifteen. I'm that guy
right there till about seven until everybody wakes up. You
stare off for an hour, and I'm calling such BS
on that I'm calling a BS.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Hour, just staring thoughts.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Nobody can sit there for an hour. Oh I could,
but no, I sit there and I'll read and think and.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Again reading different music is different, all right, But you
take ten minutes doing, then you gotta do something that's.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Not what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm sitting there in
silence without anything. I'll read out on my almost every day.
I read on my porch for an hour and a half,
two hours almost every day. Yeah, there's nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I'll tell you what I'll do in pretty hot lately.
I'll go the is there a coffee shop around here?
What are you gonna go? Film yourself? That doesn't count.
I'll leave at the top of the hour, and I'll
leave all my stuff in the car, and then I'll
check in with you guys at uh in the crosstop
at three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
There's the star fucks like down the road.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
You know, I could just go up to Chick fil
A and just get a soda, same thing and just.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
The same thing. And no, no, no, this is a
coffee shop, but it's the same thing. No, no, no, no, no.
People go to Chick fil A and coffee shops for
two really different reasons.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Well so exactly. So if I went there and just
order a soda and setting the booth by myself, is
that not straight? Yes? If the food's all gone, yes,
if you're eating, No, I'm not gonna eat. I'm just
gonna get a soda and then we'll just go sit there.
Don't you ever Guys like to sit there and watch people.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
I guess not.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
I've never planned a murder before.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
I think.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I get on my bike. I'm trying to stay healthy,
but there's there's some negative sort of reasons why. I
like getting outside every day and pushing yourself just a
little bit every day and having some thoughts. But I'm
doing that. I got my earbuds in. I'm listening to
the station or something else or whatever's music or whatever.
Even even on my bike, I've got something else happening.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Maybe that's just my problem. But if I saw a
dude at a Starbucks and he just had his legs
crossed and was staring into space with a like a lot,
I'd get I'd leave. Ye, there's something going on there.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I'm driving tonight up the Aspen, right.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
I look forward to it because I can sit there.
Music don't need a loud just down low yeah, and
just silence being the music, the car, hume of the
road whatever whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, okay, no dombe question.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
But does it not bother you? Because when I get
in the car, I feel like I just want to
just veg and just let's just go. Then all of
a sudden, someone's simiciding talking the whole freaking time.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Would you rather have somebody with you for three four
hours to Aspen or buy yourself.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
By myself by myself? For sure? I am a big introvert.
I just like piece and quiet. I don't know you
guys ain't in my around me.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I got something like I got something going on tonight,
like I'm not sure if I'm gonna do it or
not because I want to see Sho heeo Tani pitch,
but I know my wife isn't really interesting going to
the Rockies, and I'm like, I should just go. If
I want to go, I should just go. Sure, And
then like when he's done pitching, I you know, just.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Leave, so in the eighth inning and you could leave
and he.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Ain't going eight that'd be a hell of a game,
but you know what I'm saying. But anyways, whatever, let's
get back to the Broncos. What you saw in practice today,
that's coming up next
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