8-20-25 Hour 3: Lets Football Go/Jeff Legwold

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
His big question of the day, what is the biggest
takeaway from Broncos practice. We'll get there in a second.
Here's what Joel Lombardi said, offensive coordinator of the Bronco
is about what he wants to see from Bow in
New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
And this game would be good, you know, if you
got in a rhythm and you know, put together a
driver too, and just uh, you know we're getting to
the end of training camp and in most of the
installs in so just you know, tightening up the details,
you know before we know when you're getting ready for
that first game. So you'll just continue on that on

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the path that he's on.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
The Jeff Lakewall will join us at two thirty. Tyler
was out of practice today. What'd you see from bow?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Uh? Not as good of day as yesterday? For sure.
Yesterday it was a good day for bow Nicks. He
strung together a couple of good days going back to
the joint practice with Cardinals. Followed it up yesterday with
a really strong performance. Today felt like, oh, Scott, just
about any other day out of training camp. I mean,
it definitely was not a bad day. Bow had some
moments that looked pretty good, which has been his camp.

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I mean, even when we say he wasn't great, I
mean he had moments. He started out the practice like
the first like real bow period would be the third
down period you got team run and everything, but the
first bow period that would be the third down period
they had there, and it was kind of like a
high red zone period. And honestly, I was charting the
whole thing. He started out he was four for four

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on completions, He was three or four on picking up
the first down. By the time the period was all
said and done, he was five of seven on completions,
four of seven on converting the first down. It ended
on a sour note because Evan Ingram reached for a
ball fully extended, you know again, one of those balls

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that if it's if it's six inches closer to Evan
Ingram's body, he can get two hands on it. But
he couldn't. So he's fully extended ball, tips off his hand,
ends up in an interception, so you kind of walk
away from the period on a sour note, but as
a coach, you're looking at it, You're like, hey, man,
you did a lot of good stuff there, like and honestly,
it was a pretty good period. Practice didn't necessarily end

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that way. And you know, I charted absolutely everything that
went on today. I could go through the two minute
drill again if we want to. But you know, the
two minute drill was hectic. They were helped out by
a slow thumb on the clock a handful of times.
But it was also like, hey, you were moving the chains,

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you did your job. You're down by seven. You got
yourself down there with the chance to win the game
was six seconds on the clock, probably just enough time
for one. If everything's perfect, maybe you get a chance
for two. Magically after the first one that should have
been an interception to Jakewan McMillan, they put one second

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on the clock. Okay, well get another crack at this thing,
so should have probably ended with interception to McMillan. He
just drops the thing and then on the final play
of the practice. Bo Nick's probably one of the worst
pocket awareness I've seen from him in a long time.
I think both's got good pocket awareness I do. I
think he does a good job of stepping up, scrambling out,
buying time. Very rarely do I feel like he's putting

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his off its line in a bad position. I mean,
Mike McGlinchey was just at a beautiful spot, fully extended,
walked out Jonathan Cooper, and bo just literally just drifts
directly into Jonathan Cooper for a sack.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Practice over okay, these all seem like positive steps, though,
excuse me. Overall, I feel like it is a good
thing that they're going to play in a game, though
it feels like way too long that they've gone without
playing in a competitive circumstance.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Does you need and Joe Lombardi just said this, you
need they? I think they, And it doesn't mean any
regular season, But for me, here's what I need. I
need the first team offense to have some success going
into the regular season. Right, didn't play in Game two,
didn't score in Game one. I think they only had
one or two first downs even in that in that

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first game.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well, bo Nix has played in three series.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
You know, in hindsight, and the that's it. In hindsight.
It's gonna take a little bit of time for the
league to have like a uniformed approach to preseason because
right now everybody's trying to figure out what their approach
is going to be. I do wonder if what Sean
Payton did now the excuse for not playing the guys
last week was that we had two joint practice But

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in hindsight, it's actually a pretty good plan because you're
just talking about how long it feels since they played
in a game. Yeah, well, if you play in the
first two and you don't play in the third, you've
got a three week break there playing football because there's
two weeks after that final game. Great, so this might
be an interesting trend. Play the first game, set out
the second, play the third, and then get ready for

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the regular.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
We just know, I'm rolling my eyes because they will
have this for a little bit, but they will be
going to an eighteen game schedule in only two preseason
games actually, and that's probably the way it'll stay for
a long long time once they get there. So I
don't know, I don't know how you balance it out.
I think it's just common sense that they're about to
do this, that they'll do a second by a week,

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that they'll push the Super Bowl back to President's Day weekend.
All these things are just kind of ridiculous common sense, Right,
So how you get your team ready? I suppose while
we until we get to that point is a question.
I don't know if there is an answer. I'm still
trying to figure out what sense it makes to do
all the spring stuff, take six weeks off and come

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back for training camp. And now it feels like for
the Broncos, this just all feels too long. Like they
are I mean, you know, for better or worse. I
think they're ready to go. Do you guys agree or not?

Speaker 4 (06:06):
I think there's probably mentality of them that's ready to go.
But you never know if you're ready to go till
you go. Yeah, I don't know. I'm a big believer
that football takes time to marinate. You need time to
stew and play and practice and go over the situations
and install at a slow pace. It doesn't feel like

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it doesn't feel like it's been too long to be
I mean there's still a lot of kinks that they
got to iron out.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, well, I mean it goes to the game Saturday
and then you got.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I mean, are you asking me as a player, would
I be ready to be done with camp or you
asking me as an analyst do they look prepared to
play football?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I guess I'm asking you as an analyst? Are they
ready to play football? I guess that's where I'm going.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
That offense is way too inconsistent right now.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
And you can get consistent through what you have left.
They got three more weeks, dude, I get it.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
That's a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So how much are we pressing things over these next
three weeks? Are we pedal to the medal? Is that
what you need? Do you do you need more joint practices?

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Like?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
What else do you need?

Speaker 6 (07:13):
No?

Speaker 4 (07:13):
I mean, I'm not saying that they gotta do anything stupid,
but I do think that you need the time all right.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't know, man, it's the perpetual sort of like.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
They have a very slow start to the season.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
What does that mean? Oh but they still win? Well,
I mean they're playing two. If they can't beat these
two first opponents, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Say they're three and three six, three and three, four,
three and three, four and two.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, three and three might be okay because you got
after these first two on paper easy games at Chargers.
That's not easy home again? Cincy. That ain't easy at Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
So you're saying, we're starting out three and zero and
then you lose three.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right, yeah? Or how about you how about you win
your first two, you lose three straight and then you
beat at the Jets.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
So there you're three and three.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
But that's that's in England. So you beat three and three.
You know what if the problems are three and three,
I'm okay with that in week six, yeah, or going
into week seven.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
You're not a special team though, I don't.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Know, man, I mean, that's l a Cincy Philly. I
think you're you guys, you don't know who you are, Scott.
But if you start out three and three, it definitely
does not prevent you from being a special team. Yeah,
you've still got a great opportunity to do whatever the
heck you want to do.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
What if you're doing four? That feels that feels different.
I know it's just one game, but that really does
feel different. And who's the game that any keeps bringing
this up the game after the Jets game.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, it's you got Giants. It's the Giants and then
Dallas both at home.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
By the way, you keep asking me, I finally looked
into it because you're gonna ask me another twelve times
until I figured it out. Giants game is the Super
Bowl reunion with DTS.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Go to Okay, win that game please, and the Giants
are I.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Heard we got over thirty five guys that already.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's going to be a special day. That is going
to be a special day. That's a great time of
year or two man, in October for football and come on, man,
that's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
But you're also traveling back from.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
England from to play. You don't have a bye weekend.
You're right, that's yep. What are they doing too? After Philadelphia?
Are they staying on the East Coast?

Speaker 4 (09:33):
No, they're going straight to London? They are.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, they're going right to London. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah,
Well they're stayed well like last year when they stayed
in uh wherever in West Virginia, so they are kind
of doing that again sort of. They did that last
year too, they stayed on the road between games, so
they're going to do that. Yeah, you're right, that's well,

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that's a lot of travel. You'd be on the road
for a long time for football a team. Then you
come back with that reunion game against the Giants. Hmm, well,
I would suck to lose that one. The Giants suck,
all right.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Russe Wilson is still the starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh Man week seven? Ja, Yeah, I think I think that.
I think the crowd in New York is is screaming
for Jackson Dart at that point. That's fun, though.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, Russ usually starts pretty good.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
You think you're not wrong. Russ was awesome in Pittsburgh
through six weeks and then he fell apart. But the
first first six weeks for Russ and Pittsburgh were great,
and fields was four and two, and I think Russ
did Russ not win like six games in a row
or something like that. He was like really good, and

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then he lost six games in a row.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Here's the Giants. They got a tough start to the
season at Washington, at Dallas.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Tough, tough, the oh my god, okay tough.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
And then Chargers Kan'tas City at home, Chargers at home,
and then at the Saints, and then and then the
Eagles at home, and then you go to Denver. They
might be one and five.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Russ ain't gonna bac make it past four games on
that one, you're zero and four. What are their first four?
What are their first four? Again?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Washington, Dallas loss, Kansas City Chargers. I don't know. They
might be able to beat Dallas. I can't see Chargers
are at home, Dallas and Washington on the road.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, you know, I want Russ though, Man, I want Russ.
I want Russ so bad. Come on, Russ starting.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Union it doesn't even feel like anything now, like Russ
coming back into town head that that's got like zero emotion.
Let me let me say this.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Come on, man, you see if.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
You agree this, if it's still Russ with that opening schedule,
when they play game seven and divnies, they're probably a
little better than you gave the Giants credit for.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, fair, very fair.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
So for US is still the starter. And now you're
traveling after two weeks on the road all the way
back from London.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
It's dangerous to play a game.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Does that not become a dangerous game?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I just said it dangerous pun intended. It's PhD. Let's
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field today, Tyler was out there, Dan Bud Squint's Tanner

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Let's football gory.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Tyler, you were out there.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
Tell us if you agree here with what you saw
today in scott overtraining camp, over the practices of the
last couple of days. If this team, this Broncos team
looks like the fourth best team in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Number four Broncos.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Listen, they didn't just add players, They added elite players.
Drake Greenlaw, Evan Ingram who fun get safety. Last year's
defense was good and aggressive. Why would it go backwards?
So again, Bo Nicks in a second year.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I the old line is.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Rated number two according to PFF in preseason. So last
year caught us by surprise. This year all their good
young players are a year older. In the system of
Sean Payton, I have denver at number four.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Too high, too low, just right. In your guys' opinion
on the Broncos being ranked the fourth best team in
the NFL by Colin Cowherd, Oh, look.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
I'd mean we're jumping. We're putting the card ahead of
the horse. Here for sure, fourth best team in the NFL?
What are we talking about? I'm not sure we're the
second best team in the AFC West. Do we have
a chance with AFC West this year? That all comes
down to who are the Chiefs? I don't know. I mean,
everybody seems to be operating under the assumption that this
is the year that the Chiefs fall off the face

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of the earth. I'm like, okay, I'll believe that when
I see it. I get the argument. I do. I
understand last year, how many games could you win by
what was it like, seven points or less? At some
point that's going to catch up to you. But to
anoint us as the fourth best team in the NFL, like,
let's slow down here.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
It's probably too high. Well, however, I'll give you an
argument for where it may make a little sense. He
does have the Bills and Ravens over the Broncos, and
I think he's got the Eagles at number one. So
if the Broncos were to win the AFC West, well, okay,
they're better than the Chiefs. If they were to win

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that wildcard game they were hosting, okay, they'd be beating
a team, say like the Texans or maybe Jacksonville is
a wildcard team, right, so you beat one of them
and then you lose to the Ravens, so you don't
make the the AFC Chancechampionship game. But like, where are you?

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I mean, are you automatically less than the teams in
the NFC Championship or are you better than them too?

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Like?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Who are those NFC teams that you're better than? If
you make it that far? Now, if it's not fourth, fine,
but where would you put the Broncos if they won
the AFC West and won a wildcard playoff.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Game today today? So we know what we know today today,
We're not We're not like just assuming that we're going
to get magically better, Like we know what we know today.
That's what you're asking.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, he's projecting, Colin's projecting what it's going to be.
So I guess you just sort of play the game forward,
just let the dominoes fall.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Like, Okay, I would say, I mean, if you're asking
me today where i'd put the Broncos thirteen fourteen?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I mean, and then logically if you were to say that,
I said, oh, okay, they're the thirteenth best team. How
does their season. Go, what's the record whether they do
in the playoffs?

Speaker 4 (15:58):
So you know, let me play the projecting game to
utyl Okay, right, Bronco's in the season fifteen and two?
Are they a top fourteen? Yeah? Of course if they
finished the season two and fifteen, where are they bottom two?
All right? So I mean that's all projecting too.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
We don't sure, Well you can you can play that
game too. What would it take to be the fourth
best team and go from there?

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Fourth best team? Probably thirteen? You think that gets it done? Maybe?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Is it possible to be the fourth best team and
not playing the AFC Championship game?

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well, depends how you want to rate best. Are you
doing it purely on on record or you can look
at the Broncos second Suit Bowl they won? Or first
of well, I think they won ten games and we're
a wild card team. I mean to answer your question,
maybe the best of the end of the year. The
only way that would be a possibility is if the
NFC was awesome. They put together two or three amazing

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teams and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson got.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Hurt, gotcham See. This is another reason why. And I
know there's some discussion about realignment in the different sports.
Where's that coming? Is that coming from baseball more than anything?
But I've seen some speculation like, hey, what if you
realigned the Nuggets? You know, what if what if you
re aligned the Rockies or whatever? These teams. I just wish,

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I wish this whole AFC NFC thing, guys would go away. No,
I think finding an NFC team during an AFC team
in the Super Bowl, to me is just dumb. Let's
get the two best teams in the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
You know, you know, you don't got to fix what
ain't broken. You got you got a great product in
the NFL with no problems right now. I do think
rivalries matter. I think divisions matter. All of the above,
it all adds intrigue in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm watching this Cowboys as.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
You understand what you're saying, it can be frustrating at times.
You just want the best teams to be there.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like I'm watching this Cowboys thing, and they have the
Cowboys playing the Niners in the NFC Championship and the
game is unbelievable. And then the Cowboys get to my
Buffalo Bills and they beat them by forty points. Like,
it's clearly the two better teams that year were the
Niners and the Cowboys. Why can't that be the championship?
Why can't that be the Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Well?

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Were the two best teams last year? Washington and Philly?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Washington and Philly?

Speaker 4 (18:25):
That was the NFC championship game? No, No, I.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Think the Chiefs were probably a better team than Washington,
although it would have been an interesting game for sure,
no doubt.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
They trounced the Chiefs right.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
The Well, yeah, in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (18:43):
What happened to the Bills? I can't even remember.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Bills lost to the Chiefs again, but like what happened?
It was a close game, but you know they.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Lost at home too. Didn't a Buffalo game?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
You're killing me on the memories.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I think it was in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I should remember painful bowmans.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Me let me go back. That's true. I told you
guys where i'd put the Broncos today. Where are you
guys plating them? Well?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I got him going eleven and six and win in
a playoff game. I don't have them winning the AFC West,
so I probably have him as a nine or ten
something like that.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
I mean, to me, that's a reasonable reach, Like, I
think that that's a reach, but I think that that's reasonable.
Top four.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Come on, Yeah, the mock draft by field Yates, he's
got the Broncos drafted at twenty, so he's got him
slightly out of he's got more or less like they
were last year.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Scott twenty eight. I would say thirteen to fifteen.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Okay, when you got him like last year, then right
now you got him as a playoff team, then.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
I think it's gonna be. If they don't make the playoffs,
it'll be a horrible year. I agree, we completely overassessed everything.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I think this year is a total failure. If they
don't make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
What does that mean? If they don't lit? I know, yeah,
I got that, but I mean, are we talking about changes?

Speaker 2 (20:08):
You're not talking about well, you're probably not head coaching changes,
but you're if they're not a playoff team, they probably
were not as good defensively as we thought they were
going to be, So you may see a different defensive coordinator.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, or i'll give you the other side of the coin.
Or offensively they're exactly what we've seen in training camp. Yeah,
about who's shot because you're not gonna win eleven or
twelve games with the offense that we've had in training camp.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Let's bring Jeff Legwold into the conversation. Leggy has brought
to you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers IBW
Local sixty eight. Start with a job, end with a career.
Don't mean to go negative right off the jump with you, Jeff,
But if you want to ask them the question if
the Broncos don't make the playoffs, Oh.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, I mean, we're just playing a lot of major
what ifs here, But yeah, I mean, what does it mean, Jeff,
I the Broncos don't make the playoffs this year?

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Who it means the head coach said they were good
enough to win the Super Bowl, And I don't think
he'd take that very well if they didn't make the playoffs,
And I guess it would just be where does the
accountability hammer hit, you know, after something like that. It's
what I thought all along, guys, I thought, you know,

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he's obviously done this for a reason. He didn't. He
didn't say they were good enough to win the Super
Bowl to anybody who asked by accident. I mean, he
obviously had a reason for doing this. And if for
some reason they didn't make the playoffs after all of that.
That would leave a very big unanswered question at that point,

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like why not. And I guess if it wasn't injuries,
then yeah, I think there would be at least some
shake up around it. It would be a lot harder
to explain why you didn't have some shakeup after that.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
So give me a reason why they would be a
top four or five team at the end of the year,
and some of the reasons they would not be as
constantly presented.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Yeah, I mean, I just think defensively, in a lot
of a lot of seasons, if you're a lege on defense,
you're you're going to be in the mix no matter.
You know, if your offense doesn't punish you, you know,
if you're not high in turnovers and mistakes and penalties,

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if your offense is just you know, sort of you know, humdrum,
and you have an elite defense, you're in the mix.
It's when you have an elite defense and your offense
is punishing you along the way that gets you in trouble.
So I think if you're elite on one side of

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the ball or the other, you're in the playoff conversation
unless the other side of the ball is is you know,
crushing you along the way. And I you know, again,
we don't We don't know anything because I haven't played
a regular season game. But I'm just judging by how
I've seen teams, teams come through training camp or in

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the preseason over the decades, and this is one of
the better defenses I've seen exit a training camp or
a preseason.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Jeff, what you were out there in practice today, you
would you see for bow Dickson offense?

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Yeah, I mean it's the same, you know, a lot
of the same things. They occasionally moved the ball. I mean,
but I thought today, you know, at least in some
of the team periods, Bow was on the run quite
a bit against the number one defense, and you know, again,
you know, it's it's one of those things. Are we

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are we judging the offense too harshly or are we not
given the defense enough credit? I don't think we know,
get but just more of the same. You know, that
offense has its moments, but they have get to have
you know, as consistent a run practice after practice as
as the defense has.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
That's pretty much exactly what I said.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
For the record, it feels like the one position on
the team that we may see somebody added after the
cuts happened, might be a full back or a tight
end full back sort of guy. I think they really
like Nate Atkins, and I think they like what Atkins
brings to the table, but he's not going to be

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available for a few weeks. Am I reading that room
right there? Jeff is at the one position that we
may see a new guy come here from from off
the street.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, especially if Burton isn't going to be ready with
a hamstring injury. You know, I think that influences the clock,
you know, anyone doing roster projections, you know, with the
people that are on the roster right now, you know
you go with Burton in the fullback spot because he

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might be ready. But yeah, that they I asked him
yesterday straight up. Yeah, you know that a position you
want squared away by the regular season, and they do so.
I think that is one spot where they'd be looking
at the wiber wire to see what's out there. And
you know, does that mean they only keep three tight
ends initially two? I think that's all a possibility. But

(25:30):
when Atkins is ready, I'm assuming right now he comes
right back to the roster and then that that's yet
another change a few weeks down the road.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Does that possibly open the door for Tasom Hill.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't get that. I mean,
anything's possible with him, Sean Payton. I mean, I don't
think he never clears, you know, anything off the table
right away without talking about it. But if you've played
for him, it's always going to be a possibility. Yes,
But is that a fit for this team right now?

(26:06):
I can't see him taking bow nicks off the field
to give you know, Taysom Hill some you know, wacky
quarterback snatch or anything like that. So, uh, you know,
but yeah, you've played for him, it's a possibility.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Hey, Jeff, give me your running backs room.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Hmmm.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Uh, you know, I think the day it gets the
fourth spot, I think right now, if I'm just judging
by how they're doing the groupings and the walkthroughs and practice,
that's kind of how I see it now, you know,
did that change? Yeah? I think Julie Old in my mind,
has had a little safer of a spot than some
people think. But maybe that's just me.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
But that's well, when hold on, when you say fourth spot,
are you including the fullback or not?

Speaker 6 (26:50):
No, I think four running backs and a fullback is
is what he'd like.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
To have, you know, So you got you got Julil
ahead of you give him Gloughlin ahead of the day.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
I do because he does more. I watch how they
group players. I watch what what they use them in,
what groupings they use them in, what parts of the
playbook they're using them. I mean today, it has only
made an appearance sort of in the two minute stuff recently,
and julia'sn't a lot more of the third down second
third down hybrid stuff than anybody else is. Frankly Well, that.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Actually kind of leads into my next question anyways, because
I was gonna ask you about wide receivers. If you're
going to carry four running backs, you might may have
to make a tough decision somewhere else. We got six
wide receivers that deserve to be on this team, there's
no question about it. But you look at what's going
on across the league, and now's the time you're seeing
all these back end trades of guys that were going
to get cut or whatever. Sixth round swap, seventh round swap.

(27:49):
Any chance that there's a surprise wide receiver trade off
this team because they got to make a tough decision
because they want a fourth running back for example.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
Yeah, I think. I mean when I did it for
us at ESPN, when I turned mine in, I had
the four running backs and six receivers make it. And
I think there's a scenario for you to do that
and still keep you know, the traditional twenty five on offense,
twenty five on defense, three on special teams. So I

(28:19):
think I think six receivers make it. I don't think
they have any interest in going lower than that unless
they get pushed in some way or they want to,
you know, some one of their younger players. They're nervous
about trying to sneak through waivers. But I think the
six have earned it clearly, and a couple of those

(28:40):
undrafted guys are intriguing prospects, and that's where the question is.
You know, like last year they kept Frank Crumb the
tackle that was a bit of a surprise, or Blake
Watson they kept when they went to the fifty three
because they believed they would not get through waivers either
one of them. So I think less there's a scenario

(29:01):
like that. I think the six wide receivers make.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
It it is. I was gonna ask you, is there
any surprise from the people you're talking about of of
Franklin and his emergence in this training camp.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
No, that's been their hope, Scott. I mean they they
had a couple of advocates in the draft room, including
the head coach you know, who very much wanted Franklin
to come off the board as soon as possible on
that day. You know, that was like the one guy
they wanted to have when the when the that day

(29:38):
of the draft started. So is he you know, we
we don't. He's looked good. Yes, I think the only
question has left the answer is is he ready for
the part of the game that frustrated him last year,
which was when DBS put put their hands on him
at the line of scrimmage and wouldn't give him his
release and that frustrated him and limited his output. He's

(30:03):
done better with that in camp, but they don't do
a lot of it in camp. That's just not how
you're going at it all the time. And he always
hasn't created separation in the in the rare instances they've
actually done that in camp, and uh, that's the only
question for me that remains. Otherwise, Uh, he's had one

(30:25):
of the better camps of anybody across.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
The roster, anybody fighting for Is there is there any
competitions at any position on the line where the game
will matter on Saturday at anywhere?

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Yeah, Mac, I think those last three to four spots
on the roster, the special teams coaches are gonna have
a lot to say, and that's those are guys you
can have an impact in this last game and you know,
give that one, you know, the last minute of the
round in a boxing match, so to speak. You know,
you give them that last look of something really good,

(31:05):
and you could you could find your way on the roster.
And you know, I don't think like you know, the
traditional depth chart offense and defense positions. I don't think
there are many of those sort of still in the balance.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Hey, really quick is good or not?

Speaker 6 (31:25):
I think so. Again, I judge by how they're running
the groupings and how they are line in players up.
But yeah, I think five corners, five safeties is where
it goes right now because of special teams. Again, a
lot of your safeties are in the big special teams
loops right now. And I think Lock Skinner. Uh you know,

(31:48):
those two guys are are heavy into special teams as well.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
You go to New Orleans, what's the what's the restaurant,
what's the spot?

Speaker 6 (31:57):
You know, I'm actually not making this trip, not not
excited about the new kickoffs, so we are, we're tapping
out of that one. But okay, they'll send me. They'll
send me to London, but not a New Orleans preceding.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Dame so well they know your history.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't blame him. Frankly, let's
be honest.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Thank you, Jeff. We appreciate it. We'll talk to you
next week, okay, Jeff Legwell brought to you by the
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers i b W Local sixty eight.
Start for the job and with a career. ESPN. Did
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Kind of interesting, Yeah, Fox thirty one their parent company

(32:42):
buying nine News Tea.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
So much for competition.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
That will be interesting. I think we'll see, uh see
what happens there. But that's a that's a big one.
That is that is large. So for me, ohch wow
ho tail.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
M h.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
I don't even know what you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yes, you do, alright, I'll take you don't know, take
two seconds? All right?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Time weak? You know. I have a text for you,
Tylerka about your weekend.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
What did I do?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Find out next? Just to do some house cleaning here?
The movie we were talking about earlier because we got
a no dumb question about a guy who was frightened
by a dude at Starbucks, sitting there by himself with
no devices, no book, just sort of drinking a coffee.
And his question was, is that a psychopath?

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yes? Is the answer.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, we more or less came to that conclusion too,
And I said.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Oh, that Jeff Scott, who's also well, we didn't. We
didn't go that lane. But maybe I am.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well that that movie the guys, it's there you go,
There you go, Milton, I gotcha.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
The movie I was referring to with the guy sitting
in the lawn chair with the sprinklers splattering his uh
you know, his knees.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Was the firm with Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, and that is a that's a pretty good pull
right there. Great John Grisham book. Are you guys in
the John Grisham.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
I used to be I've read most of his early works.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I just read a recent one, and he's got a series.
I know, you guys like the series Camino Island series.
But anyways, The.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Sphere was a great book. Didn't translate well to the TV.
The Firm, the Sphere.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
The Sphere, I don't know the Sphere Is that a
John Grisham thing I believe? Anyways, Yes, the movie was.
The movie was the Firm. However, somebody said in con
Air it was when Steve Buscemi was at a pool.
Yeah that was the empty Yeah, so and then he
was playing like I.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Swear there was something really similar to that in that movie. Yeah.
By the way, this fear might have been Michael Crichton
that now that I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
He's a great writer. Do you ever read The Dominant Strain? Ye?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Actually, the movie in the seventies was scary at heck,
but the book's even better.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah. Michael Krichon also the inventor of Jurassic Park, of
that series. By the way, there you go.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
What was the book about the apes and they're trying
to find the Lost City and also these apes are
lost City? Is the oru? I know? Also they're killing everybody.
Planet of Dates that's where I was gonna go. But
I just watched The Planet of the Days like two
nights ago. I like those movies.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Let me let me spear. Is Michael Crime by the way,
Drastic Park and a dominant strain. This is for Tyler
on the shot mansa text line because Tyler and a Krekman. Well,
I guess this is for Nate too when he gets here.
My name is Cleveland Ward. I live in Colorado Springs,
but I work in Denver for the Post Office. I drive.

(36:06):
I drive a big truck and I listen to you
guys every day. This is our guy. Yeah, we love
driv I love drivers.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
We used to have a lot of Melmour too. Listen.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I love Mailman. I love drivers, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
I heard hate teachers, but but you do love drivers.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well, they're back to work now, so watch out for
the pools. I heard mister Tyler Columbus, we'll be calling
a high school game at D twenty South State.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
I thought mister Columbus is Tad Columbus. Let's just get
that clear.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
He's calling you, mister Tyler. I appreciate that The directions
are I twenty five south.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
To exit exit no no, that's the tree farm calling
a guy high school football game.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I twenty five south to exit one fifty three InterQuest Parkway.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Okay, I appreciate, but I'm gonna end it right there. More.
I'm gonna end it right there, buddy, I appreciate the
local direction. There. I'm gonna put it into my iPhone
and I'm gonna go where my iPhone.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
You just take Colorado twenty one, which just Powers Boulevard.
You get off at exit one fifty head west. That's
the right at the next light, okay, and then you're
next right and then you'll see the stadium right now.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Anybody got a notepad, let me write this down really quick.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Also try the skirted Heifer fifteen thirty five Dublin Boulevard
and Colorado Springs, best Burger's in town.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
See now that's advice that I might take him up on.
You give me the best burger in town, I might
head up that joint.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Thank you for caring.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
What was the day? Moving again?

Speaker 2 (37:38):
The spirited Heifer.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
The Spirited Heiffer, the famous Clevan's.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Kleingon's cleans.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Clevelan little hell. I don't know. I don't want to
play this.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Lazy sheriff, right right, right, right, right right. I could
think that's the only one I could think of, too,
and I needed.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
That one, that one Elton Johnson.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, oh, Lev not Clevan, I know I knew you
were going there too.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Well. And then that one great song about Jose.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
What's that song?

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Jose? Can you see.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I like that one too?

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
You got some before, dad, Hey, how are dance drop offs?
How's that going these days?

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Dance drop offs?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, no, no dance dancing. A dance party when you.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Do the well, today was supposed to be a day
and I had a doctor's appointment.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
So have you not? Have you not had one yet?

Speaker 4 (38:40):
I've had one, and I got the sink in the chair.
Sink in the chair, Dad, Please don't.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Is she in a new school?

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah, brand new school?

Speaker 2 (38:48):
And is she in the lowest grade? So she's six
seven eight and she's six yeah?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, dance parties are over, buddy. I hate to break
your heart, but the back I just today, I Oh,
that's risky.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It's not as cutesy anymore.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
No, Oh, I don't care. Okay, I'm here to say
there's no sixth, seventh, or eighth grader that can whoop
me at that school.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I got it. But she's the one that has to
walk in. I might be able to whoop her, though
I don't want to hear that. Yeah once so he
said once.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
That's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Not gonna happen a second time. No, okay, all right,
we were talking or any any final thoughts on the
Broncos today any other.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
I'm thinking about the spirited heifer. It's time to get
a game going. It's time to get a game going.
I got I gotta Scott, Can I count? Can I
tell a story? Now? I got it. My college roommate,
Dusty Dusty Sprague was from Holyo, Colorado. Right, where's that
Eastern Colorado? Practically Debraska? Okay, didn't they play like seven

(39:58):
man football? Or yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
No?

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Oh, actually I think it is eleven man. It's eleven man,
but it's definitely a small.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Town, so it's out theah.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
But I mean the hell of an athletic family. Two
brothers went to CSU. He he apparently said forget the
family tradition because they were older, and he went to
see you. He said to a pregnant lady one time, huh,
oh man, you look like a hell of a heifer. Wow.

Speaker 8 (40:28):
In his mind, that's ament thought that that was a
compliment because you're from farm land. Because you're from farmland, right,
It didn't even cross his mind that that might not
come across.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Right. Yeah, when you call somebody heifer, that's derogatory. Yeah,
but no, you're you're a good mother, you're birth in,
like you're doing a good job a birth in that child.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
As a farmer.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I suppose like