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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Columbus Hastings and Dmac on demand. Listen to
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Man Trade Davon Veile.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We're really excited to have an opportunity to bring him
and on board him with us.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Obviously a really good player, really good person, really.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Had a productive year last year in Denver, and so
it felt like as we went through the hey, you're
always looking for guys, looking for opportunities, it felt like
it was a great, great opportunity for us to get
a younger guy second year in the league that's still
developing and growing and it'll be great for our for
our team. And so as a result, we did have
to release Donovan People's jones, which is always the challenging
part of this and you know, other than that, we
should be good to go roster wise. I don't think
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anything from an injury standpoints changed. And as far as
we look forward to this Denver game, you know, plan
is to get as many of the starters playing as
we can. You know, we'll see how long that goes,
but we'll try and get those guys some game time action,
Which how about that?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
So vle just goes and plays against the Broncos. I
guess there you go. Kind of a twist, kind of
an odd one. I suppose have.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We heard whether or not in New Orleans to play
in their starters.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
He might have just said. He just said they're gonna
go as long as they can, like he's gonna play them.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Dude, if we're doing sports talk radio in New Orleans
right now, are you not ripping this organization for a
team that, hey, we should be an outright tank mode,
accumulating as many draft picks as we possibly can, and
yet we're giving up a fourth and a seventh for
Devon Vley.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
If I'm doing sports talk, I may be like, who
the Devon?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
What?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Who is this? And then I find out he's twenty
seven years old as a second year player, I know,
and he caught how many forty one passes?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
And it sounds like we're ripping on Von Vley. And
that's not my intention, because Von Valley is a hell
of a football player. He is a hell of a
football player. What I am ripping is not de von Vley.
I'm ripping an organization that should be accumulating draft picks
right now because they are not gonna win games this year,
and yet they're going out there and giving up a
fourth and the seventh for a middle of the road
wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
You know what teams can't help.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You know, we're missing on this Tyler going on that
vein and what you just said when the Broncos shucked
they had no picks. I mean kind of like what
you're saying, New Orleans is putting theirself into. It seemed
like all them years we were in they're having five picks,
seven no picks. Now the Broncos are gonna get good
and they're gonna be loaded with picks left and right.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's great, exactly right on. But so we're making fun
of New Orleans, which I agree with if I'm a
New Orleans timan Listen, Vedy's gonna be a good player
and I think he'll be their leading reception receiver next year.
He's twenty seven, and you gave a fourth round pick too.
I know the seventh round is for knicks for the
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twenty seventh year. I believe right, the twenty seventh draft.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, but still, oh well, Man agreed and I read
today too, that the Saints are looking to trade for
like a running back, like they're willing to give up
more stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Estimate. Let's go, I told you that, you guys poop
pooed me earlier.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
They're definitely not in tank mode, not not intentionally.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It appears you believe in Tyler Shuck or Spencer Rattler.
I guess. I mean, if I'm if I'm doing sports
talk in New Orleans, You're right, I'm apoplectic, I'm pissed.
I'm like, hey, we got a tank for Arch? What
are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
If you if you were doing sports talk in New Orleans,
you would put a what was that thing you did
for Tebow?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
The ten reasons the manifesto work?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, the Shuck manifesto.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, but shucked. Well, here's the difference.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Hey, Spitzer, Rattler's number one on the depth chart five
save Rattler manifesto.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
No, no, no, you gotta understand, man, these are not
first round guys. If the Saints really are truly trying
to win with Rattler and Shuck, they are bucking the
trend of the vast majority of NFL teams. Now, Listen,
they're doing something that if they're really serious about this,
very brave because they're trying to go low budget on
the quarterback, which allows them to sort of pile up
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other places. I don't know, do you think a team
can ever seriously win by being able to replace a
quarterback who's sort of a mid round guy and just
kind of mediocre every four years or so while you
pile up great players at other positions.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I mean, I don't know about the replacing them every
four years, but yes, I do think you could find
quarterbacks outside the first round.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Well, you'd have to do this with this strategy, because
if they're any good, they're gonna cost you fifty to
sixty million dollars because that's just that's what they go for.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The their super Bowl back in was it two thousand
and two thousand and two, whatever year they wanted, whatever
year that was. Who is their quarterback that, by the way,
didn't start the season. We took over a trend team
like the third or fourth game, the Ravens right Tred
Delfer took over like the third, fourth, fifth week, something
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like that. That's the middle of the road quarterback. But
here's the difference in how, Yes, you can win with
middle of the road guys, you have a defense that
is like all world, right, and you still have you
had probably what Tyler won the best, if not the
best running back at the time, and he had a
Hall of Fame tight end on the on the team. Right,
that's how you do it. But even though ain't got
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that stuff, a.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Rock party at some point, no matter where he was drafted,
if he's the right guy, you're paying him fifty million dollars.
So I would just rather start with the first round guy,
try to win in his first five years and and
then you know, you got to pay him eventually. That
that is a very traditional way.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
To go, or you start over with a new first
round guy.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Uh, well, right, of course. And so if I'm doing
sports sock radio in New Orleans, I am pissed today.
You're right, I'm like, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
This is we need to be accumulating draft picks?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, well what pick was?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
What round was he? I have your third round? I
think the second rounder. He was the second rounder. Okay, Well,
as I'm concerned, that's too late. I don't know, man,
and and he's behind Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Yeah for now?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Okay, Well that's another discombinedronos. Okay, well that's a messed
up organization right there. They really don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Schuck was fortieth overall.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Okay, Well, they're not that committed to them, are they?
Who they take in the first round?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
There are eight spots away from what you would define
as committed.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, it's a big difference in my world. Why I
don't want to bore everybody with it, but either you're
committed to your weight.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I mean it's literally eight picks.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Well yeah, but I don't want to get into it
because it's not just the first round. It's as high.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
As the thirty second pick. Did he have a second round?
Great on him? He picks away from the first round,
And I'm saying, whoever was drafted this year the thirty
second pick, chances are he had a second round ground
probably right?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So what's the difference at forty thirty two or pick
this year twenty eight?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Maybe it's the level of commitment to the player, That's
what it's all about. And where you're Are you really
going to focus your offense and your coaching staff around
that person? Are you gonna put your arms around him
like and It makes a huge difference, and the answer
is clearly know in New Orleans, by the way, clearly no.
So if Benzer Rattler is ahead of him on the
depth chart, like you really just don't care that much
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about this guy. This was Drew Locke's problem, by the way,
being a second round pick. They just weren't that into him,
not really not enough, and it just was a disaster
about whatever. That's New Orleans problem. The Broncos got it right.
It's a great deal for the Broncos, great deal, and
and it just.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Cleans so many things up for the Broncos. It's nobody's
anti Davon Valley. Everybody loved Von Vley. But you had
six wide receivers that all had to make the roster.
If you didn't trade one of these guys, you had
no choice but to keep them all because they're all
too talented. And then that means on game day you
were going to have a healthy scratch of a very
very productive football player that you're carrying for really no reason.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, I love it. Anybody else on the TEP it does.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Put a lot of pressure on Pat Bryant, though I
will say that it puts immediate pressure Pat Bryant better
be the dude that they think he is.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, let me ask, just if you project in Maley
forty one last year, are their projections at him for
fifty one this year sixty one? What do you think
the projections would have been? Because they do that in
the offices, right, what do you think they projected him at?
And they are they looking at it and go listen,
Pat Bryant's probably gonna do whatever we project Vyleay to
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do this year and we get a fourth rounder.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, well, I think that's exactly what they're telling you.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I think the story, too, is the ascension of Troy
Franklin and what they think of him and where he's going,
and all of a sudden, the value on Troy Franklin
is kind of shooting through the roof.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
And Troy Franklin just immediately got thrust it into your
number two wide receiver, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I guess let me put this out that we haven't
said that that Andy was saying yesterday when this all
came down, and understanding unless it's changing, if it has,
correct me and you guys are saying, listen to Orton's
gonna suck. Well, guess what it's New Orleans fourth round pick.
So it's that's good. Chances are they could be like
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the second or third pick in the fourth round.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
It's another good one, no doubt about it. All right,
we will have Shadur Sanders responding to Dylan Gabriel's entertainer
and competitor comment. We'll have that coming up. He answered
those questions today, so stick around for that. Scott, what
do you got going on? You got something? What do
you say, stupid or interesting?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, it's well both. I gotta pull up, so I
want you guys pull up your phones or look up
right now the Hotel Colorado and just put Hotel Colorado haunted, okay, okay,
which I didn't realize till I was about to leave.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I heard Bose trying to tell us it was haunted
this morning. Yeah, it's often excited as one of the
most haunted hotels in Colorado. Bo I stayed there last night,
and you're still here, Well, thank you very much. So
I get last night and I and I had looked
up something that said room five forty five. One of
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the things on Google was one of the hotel rooms
to where they had to shut it down now they
make it a storage whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
That's Scott. Oh four fifty four, yeap, this this room
is rumored to be where the chambermaid was murdered, and
it's now a storage area with the padlock.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Okay, ok.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So guess what. Guess what room number? I was?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Four fifty four is hunted. So were you in four
fifty three?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Five fifty well, no, I was in five fifty one.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Oh oh, hold on five point fifty one, fifth floor
reports of high EMF energy and the male spirit near
room five point fifty one and the attic.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, and the stairs to the attic was right across
my door. Oh my door, and there it was right there.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Did you feel the male spirit?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No? So anyway, I'm starting to read this thing and
I'm like, oh gosh, really no, no, I got the
protection of Jesus, so I was good. But i mean, like,
still you're thinking, here here we go, we got so go?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
So wait, hold on? Does that a thought through your
head though, like as you late, Well, I'm alright, I
got the protection of Jesus.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I put my little little.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So it's still in your head though you were feeling
good about it, but still you were thinking that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah a little bit okay. So all of a sudden, Julie,
Julie the war facetize. He goes, Oh my god, you
said five fifty one. Check when I just sent you.
So she sends me one, two, three, four, five, five
pages of five point fifty one. Being haunted, uh nineteen
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eighty two. During renovations espressly put wallper would just consistently
be rolled up and peeled off the floor and found
on the bed. Blah blah blah, stuck in. No other
disturbance occur high electric EMF energy scene two thousand and six,
around eight to ten mg versus the baseline of three
to five. Just a concentrationious spirit, injury, visual phenomenon, and
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operation reports. I'm reading all this and I'm laying in
bed like it's like nine thirty nine. I'm getting I'm
reading all this thing. Oh my gosh, no to bed, decorating, spirit,
visual phenomenon, map, paray. I'm going through this on man,
I need to stop reading this because yeah, I gotta
stay in this room.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And just go to bed.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And then I'm looking. I see if you can see this,
Look what says at.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
The very up and that you gotta just tell us.
I see there's something about it. Can you see anybody
when some consider I mean, I can you know, just
read it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's just chat GPT. Yeah, the witch got a jet
chat GPT. It says, write me a haunting story about
room five point fifty one at the Hotel Colorado at
Glenwood Springs. Well, I get through three pages of this,
starting to work myself up a little bit before I
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realized I look at the top. I said, chat GPT.
Oh that that so anyway? I called her back. I
go really really because she got me. She got me
three pages deep into that thing, getting a little nervous
before I turned to the fourth page and went chat GPT.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
She just made it all up.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Well that the a I did the warden the warden, uh,
that the warden got on her phone into chat freak.
Take write me a good story about the hauntings of
room five point fifty one at the Hotel Colorado.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I mean the real quest, I mean, did you not
did you see anything that you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Thought was hana? I told you I had I had protection, dog,
I had protection.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Well, you've seen plenty of things in the past, and
I apparently you weren't protected.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yes I have, Yes I have.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
But were you not protected at that point of your life?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I was not. No, I was not Tyler. I was not.
I was a fool in my follies. But anyway, so
I thought you guys said that bit funny that the
ward would think, think he'd use AI and send that
to me just to try to give me a fright.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I think it's awesome that a great wife tries to
scare the crap out of her. Oh that's well done
out of her husbands.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I definitely respect the hustle.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yes, now that's a good hustle. Now, this hotel was
built in eighteen ninety or something like that, eighteen ninety three.
I mean it's got some history and it looks like
an old hotel. Yeah. Oh it's giant.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I stay there one time. It's because it's so convenient
to the hot Hot Springs. It's right there. I think
you can take a bridge right way. Yeah, it's right
across the Yeah. Yeah, so you didn't go to the
hot Springs, did you.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I didn't know hospital.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But I was sitting there thinking, well, I didn't want
to walk back from the hot Springs at eleven o'clock
at night.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
It's the hotel. Wait a second, what happened to the
protection that doesn't cover you if you go for a swim?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That would have it would have absolutely But no, I
just I listened. You don't understand. I told you this
their day traveling. Yeah. Man, I got in the room,
filled my take up when I landed there. When I
got to the glen Wood Springs, got a bag of
chips and a diet coke and went went to my
room and sat there and turned on So I didn't
even know what I watched.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I hope it was a horror film. Yeah right, put
something on there, you know, the Shining Jack Nicholson. No,
you know, something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You could have put on watch him shows anyone.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You could have put on another horror show, just highlights
of the Rockies first half before the All Star break? Hello,
any ghosts here?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Now? You know why we don't respond, don't you? Is
that just like a ghost that just opens the door.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
To go.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I did watch a horror movie the other day.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I don't ever watch him HERODIC. Have you guys seen it?
I have no, I have not it's uh, gosh, what's
the dude's name? Still time out, Hugh Grant? Is that
is it?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
It?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I have seen that.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, he lures the girls in the basement.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I did see that. That is a crazy one. It's
a good one.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah. It was pretty good.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, fun fun topic. They're they're Mormon girl. Yeah,
the Mormons that we're gonna learn lure the Mormons into
a basement and then you know whatever with them. Oh,
and then there's another person.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
In the base.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
We're gonna kill the others, boltim.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Are we spoiling it? Yeah, we're gonna have a little
experiment with people in the basement.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, they spoiled that movie. All you want, Well, we.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Just did just horror film.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, he was good in it.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Your Cry from the Rock Cop.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I could see him sitting in the Starbucks just staring
off into the wilderness.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I could too after seeing that movie.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well hear from Shadur Sanders if you can take it
coming up next year on PhD. It feels like because
of Prime and see you in that connection there that
that I feel connected to what's going on with Sadur
and then the drama with the Browns is pretty significant.
I'm watching the Dallas Cowboys thing finish watching that. Holy cow,
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what they did for Jerry Jones on that one, My goodness.
But but there's a whole thing about prime. You know,
it feels dumb to even say this, but we may
slightly forget how good of a football player Dion Sanders was.
I don't know because it is more than thirty years ago,
but oh my god, when you just see, Oh my god,
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and I had forgotten that he played receiver?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Was he the original entertainer? Oh man, all the dance
in the high step end, all that. Maybe there were
some guys that came before him.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
He was all of that heat.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
He took it to another level. I mean, you gotta
look at Billy White Shoes, Johnson and Elmore, Otis Taylor,
guys like that. But he he uh as a defensive
player because those guys, those guys are all offensive guys. Well,
I had he was like the first defensive guy that
you know, did the high step in the end and
stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
True, but he played receiver in the Super Bowl like
he got snaps and caught passes and you know, for
the Niners and for the Cowboys. He's on the Niners
one year winning Super Bowl. On the Cowboys the next year,
winning Super Bowl. He did play offense and took kicks
and was the best corner of all time. Like they
were just like both teams were just you know, we
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make this big deal about Travis Hunter, but Prim did
all of this same stuff at the highest level. Like
they had packages for him. I'm not saying he was
like a full time receiver, but I was like, I
had totally forgotten that he had caught passes during the
Super Bowl for those teams, It's like, WHOA. So again
my respect for Prime in terms of being an athlete
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was I mean, it's out of control. So anyway, we
fast forward all these years later, right, and here is
what should dr Well, we let's start with Dylan Gabroe.
What he said when asked about the media. Right, that's
the context of this whole thing. He was asked about
the media with the entertainment thing. Yeah, okay, it's just
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part of it.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
You know, there's there's entertainers and there's competitors, and I
totally understand that, and my job is to compete and
that's what I'm focused on doing.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Of course, we're.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Doing this mid game, but you know it's something that
I'll get used and just want to be the best
team that I can and create an environment where we
can all go do our best work. That's all we
want to do.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Okay, shot or not a shot at Shadar.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Well, the context of the question was that he had
previously been asked about blocking out the noise from the media, right,
and that was his response. So his response is, there's
entertainers and there's competitors. I do not believe that it
was a shot at sheddur Sanders at all, at least
not intentionally. But anybody can take anything they need to
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feel their own fire. And if you're the type of
dude that gets driven off of bolted board stuff, then
you can turn it into shot if you want to.
But the context of the question was specifically in regards
to blocking out the noise for the media.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Scott, shot or not a shot?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Tyler was just talking about you, a B. I didn't
know the entire context. If I did not know the
entire context, then my answer would have been what you say,
and I would have said yes. But I didn't know
what Tyler just just inform me.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
You know, there's a story that George Carl says that
he was at a restaurant one time and Michael Jordan
walked in and he didn't see him or catch him,
and Jordan thought it was a snub, and Jordan always
used that when playing George Carl's teams or something. This
is to your point, like, if you want to make
it something, sure know you can do it. Like I mean,
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was Csu really making it about you know, Prime's mama.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
He was talking about mama, right, but was he he
was talking about his mamba?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Okay, listen, if you want to make it personal, you can.
And I think the Sanders family has a long history
of using things like this as motivating and us against
the world, and we'll prove you wrong in all of that.
So whether or not Dylan Gabriel really meant that against Shedr,
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it is reasonable that you could take it that way.
So here's Shadur's response to it today.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
Honestly, I don't I don't even think about nothing, and
I don't think about anything if it's not words or anything.
You know, at this point can't do anything to me.
You know, I know, you know that God put the
ability into power within me to not even think about
nobody else comments not care.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It is what it is.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
I spoke with him. He said, nah, bro, it wasn't
he said that wasn't he told me on the plane.
He came up and he was like, nah, bro, that
wasn't that. Trusty how he trying to spend I'm like, oh,
I'm not trupid.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Regardless of whatever it was.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
I don't nobody's words that anything affects me.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You know, So you believe hi when he told you,
was that on you? Did? I believe him?
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I mean, I feel like you trying to start something.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
He's doing his job.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
He spoke to man, you don't feel like he did.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I don't know. And that's not on me to.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Sit here and be like, oh he did, he did it.
That's not gonna save my life in any way.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah, he took the bait, oh man. I mean he
definitely took the baby.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
And that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I mean, if you're the type of tooth it's gonna
get motivated by that stuff. Fine, Okay, go for it.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
It's a little bit unusual when it's your own teammate.
Usually you're just like, yeah, I know, he didn't mean anything.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
That is not what he said.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Kind of did and then he backed off of it.
You know, he said he came up to be on
the plane and I was said, hey, I'm not sure,
but don't worry about it, right but then he backed
off of it.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
That is interesting, Okay, whatever a whatever works for you.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean that the d MAC would would would love
to be a talk show host in New Orleans after
all their moves. Now I'm thinking he would really love
to be in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Oh my god, Cleveland is his wet dream, dude. Cleveland
is to be a sports lock coast in Cleveland right now?
Is the best? Are you nuts? That is well the
best you have to live in Cleveland theoretically, unless you
could be doing it from you know, I don't know, Aspen, Butland. Yeah, man,
but there's no doubt the biggest drama in the NFL
(24:15):
right now is Cleveland. It's not even close. What's second
in the NFL right now?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Uh yeah, Cam Hayward and his contract with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I mean, I don't know what's the second biggest drama
in the NFL right now?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Dallas.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're definitely right. Okay, good drama.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yeah, yeah, there you go, that's good too. What exactly
is ther that's good? So again, you gotta live in Cincinnati,
but you know, maybe Kentucky. Okay, cool, There's there's two, Terry,
there's three, okay cool? Where where are the Broncos? By
the way, on this list? Everybody's doing lists these days.
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Most of this best a look at this, look at that.
If we're doing drama lists, where exactly would Broncos be?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
You know what the drama is. There's only one drama
with the Broncos that's significant, and it's so low that
it's barely worth mentioning. And that's Nick Benito and that's
not even like drama right now.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
And when Nick got up there and spoke on it,
our takeaway was take that was refreshing. Hearing the guy
talk about it like that, that was refreshing. He's just
gonna go out there and he's gonna go to work,
and he's make d back look like a fool.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
He did check. I guess. I mean there's nothing there,
so there's nothing really to talk about. So okay, but
that is funny to hear Shadura stir the pot there
a little bit instead of just he could have easily
just said I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Think that was really smart on his behalf. I don't
I think that the team. I think that the coaches,
they've all been waiting just to see when there's gonna
be something, you know, and that it was. At first
it was the the boom box entrance with his teammate
and like, okay, whatever, he's doing his deal. I didn't
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necessarily love that. I liked when he was walking in
the shadows.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
And I don't necessarily love this either, because I think
it just gives affirmation to anybody out there that is
waiting to point the finger and say, hey, you're gonna
be about the drama.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I'm trying to think for the Broncos, when there were
probably quarterbacks that didn't get along that great or there
were things between them.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah, but I mean publicly and privately, it's always different team,
you know.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I think t Bow and Orton were like that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I don't think Orton well, I mean, Tyler no better
than me, but it didn't seem like they were buddy buddy.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Was there drama between Maddox.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
And Elway, Oh that could have been. You would have
understood it right. It would have made sense.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Man, the Browns have themselves to blame for this. They
they've they've set up this situation. Where where did they
think this was?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Point out? The latest rumor is Deshaun Watson's gonna come
back earlier expected. Well, just throw him into the becks.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Now, okay, well there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Going back, it'll be an inchting two weeks and we'll
probably get to see exactly what Cleveland's gonna do in
their quarterback room.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Going back to this Cowboys documentary, Hey, what's your guys
opinion of Troy Aikman. What do you think of Troy Aikman?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
What's the question as a broadcaster period?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Just in general Troy Aikman, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I think I thought he's a pretty pretty good quarterback.
Seemed like a good lead leader. But I think he
sometimes acts like he's got something up the patuti.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
He seems a little bit grumpy, for sure. You can
see that. He just he looks tired, like he's always
got blotch on eyes and he just looks tired.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
He was a shirk. He hated Switzer, hated him, and he.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Transfer from Oklahoma because of Switzerland.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
That's right, and he would put oh wow, he would
put things in the media of trying to get him fired. Meanwhile, Scott,
I didn't realize Switzer was beloved by the other guys
on the team. They freaking loved him.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I didn't know that part of it though, Scott. So
he played for him in college and then left. Yeah, yes,
oh left fascinating he went to USC.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I think, yeah, they won a Super Bowl. They didn't talk.
How about that? There was no communication.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
With Tom Dalen and Rico.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Was that was that the case?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
There was an entire year that Tom Dalen would not
communicate with Rico. Those two had to communicate through intermediaries.
They literally would's job Rico's no line coach. Rico was
the offensive line coach, and Tom Dalen refused to speak
to him for an entire season, to the degree that Tom,
like in a in a meeting, if if Rico would
(28:57):
say something Tom, Tom would would would turn to somebody
next to him, whispered to him, and then that person
would say it back to Rico.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
That went on for a whole year, a year. Wow, wow,
Well here you go, man, I mean it's it's I
don't know. I think Troy Yeman is just kind of
a jerk in all honesty, but he loved Jimmy Johnson,
and Jimmy Johnson was a ballbuster and Barry Switzer wasn't.
Barry Switzer was a hug him and put your arm
(29:25):
around him and that sort of guy. They both won
Super Bowls. You know, they probably could have done better,
but it just it just it was fascinating to me.
And I don't know if you guys have ever been
part of it. Can you really win? And I guess
they did. When somebody very important to your team is
totally disconnected from the head coach, pretty damn.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Tough with it's QB.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, but who's the offensive coordinator that year? So I
gotta believe that Turner was the guy and he loved nor.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
And then I think it became chan Gaily after that. Yeah,
I meant think Norv got an opportunity went somewhere. But yeah,
Norm was the right hand man. And when Switzer inherited
the team, Jerry Jones kept all of the same coordinators.
Switzer didn't hire one of his own guys. It didn't
matter Jerry Jones two is a tear all right, bigger
question and Jerry Jones, he got the Cowboys, they were terrible,
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and then they won three Super Bowls in four years
and were pretty good in the fifth year even though,
so they had a really good five year run and
good have won five Super Bowls in a row. Then
there were thirty years after that where they have not
made it to the NFC Championship Game, never winning a
Super Bowl. So you got five, you got terrible. When
he first bought the team, built him up five extraordinarily
(30:41):
good years, including three Super Bowls, and then thirty years.
Is that Is he a good owner or a terrible owner?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well, let's go back to our conversation with the Rockies
and what they've done. Is he running a business or
is he running a family?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Oh, he definitely sees it as both. Jerry Jones. He
has three of his kids who are running the Cowboys
behind the scenes right now, two sons and a daughter.
He definitely he is not gonna ever give up, you know,
control this Michael Parsons thing. He is sunk in man.
He doesn't care. He let he he didn't sign EMMITTT.
(31:23):
Smith and they played two games in the regular season
without Emmitt Smith.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I think big picture, it would be really tough to
put the entire resume together and not say he was
a great.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Owner, great owner.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
What year did he buy the team?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Eighty nine?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So the year they went one in fifteen with Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
They went one in fifteen, Yeah, I think so is
he a nine or ninety something like that? So well,
fifteen with Troy, No, I think they won a couple
of games. I think they actually got worse in the
second year with Troy Aikman. Once he got Troy, they
win one in fifteen. I think that was the year
he owned it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Eighty eight, they were three and thirteen. Eighty nine, they
were one in fifteen. Okay, they were seven and nine
and two, three, four or five six years. Their worst
season was ten and six and they won three Super Bowls,
lost to the conference finals once, lost two division games.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah, they were incredible, they were unbelievable. But they haven't
been back to an NFC championship game guys in thirty years.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah since uh, since they won the Super Bowl ninety five.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
How about that? So is he a great owner or
a terrible owner? But Tyler big picture, yeah, because he
got him three super Bowls. At the end of the
eight years of the row.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
They won the Super Bowl three and lost to the
Conference finals once.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Right, Yeah, they were great at that time. Yeah, but
it's been thirty years, guys, thirty years and he ain't changing, man,
he is he And they interviewed his son and his like,
what's the succession plan? There is none?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Dies?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Like?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
There is no handing the team over while Jerry Jones
is alive.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
It'll happen at some point, but no.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
So this is Michael Parsons thing. Man, this thing could
easily go into the regular season easily.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yeah, I don't know what the heck's going on there.
I mean they might be barely down the path of
a double franchise stack on that dude.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Maybe there certainly could do it.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well. I think he and I said to here to day,
I think he's in the same boat the Rockies are
as far as going out and getting free agent pitchers.
And after they had a couple of guys blow up
on him in Hampton and Nagel and even Kyle, right,
Kyle went on a pitch better they or Hampton pitched
great in Atlanta and Kyle pitched pretty good in Saint Louis.
(33:53):
After they left, the Rockies Nagel and I don't think
you ever pitched again. So they've been gunning since that time,
I really do. I think the Dallas Cowboy was Jerry
Jones's gun shy because of Dak Prescott's contract.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Maybe maybe, but he'll stick to his guns. Well, we'll
see what happens. I don't really care about the Cowboys.
I'm just more concerned about Nick Benito, Like, well, what's
gonna happen? And if they're really waiting for that, then
how do you feel about them? I mean, how long
can you wait? You know, how long is it gonna go?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Well, at some point it'll become clear that they're not
getting a deal done, So I think you wait until
it's clear. I think it's waiting until it's obvious that
he's holding out for an entire season or whatever. I mean,
something will clear up.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Jerry Jones may be one of the most narcissistic guys
ever in the history of sports period the end. And
he's bought any organization anything, And the reason why he
hates Jimmy Johnson this is so wild, all these years later,
is a disagreement about whose idea the Herschel Walker trade is.
To this day, they can't agree on it forty years
(34:57):
later or whatever. It's unbelievable. My idea, no, that is
that is the root of why they hate each other.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
It's unbelievable, unbelievable. All right, we'll come back with no
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Speaker 4 (35:31):
Two five on the shat Mas, the text line, how
do you have six or seven great years and thirty
bad to awful years and say Jerry Jones is a
great owner.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Well, you were just bringing up a lot of stuff
that you did for the NFL, right, which other owners
in the NFL should be very grateful to Jerry Jones
for the amount of money that he made everybody. But
that doesn't make him a great owner of that franchise, right,
I don't know. I mean, listen, you had hell of
a run. It's been a long time, but are the
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Dallas Cowboys not interesting every year? Are they not relevant
every year? Are they not in the storyline every year?
As a fan? Is really I mean, it's not realistic
to think that your team is gonna be competing for
championships all the time. But I mean, isn't that your
dream to always have an interesting football team.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Here's the two things that Jerry Jones did that changed
the NFL. He negotiated a one point six billion dollars deal.
He was the key cog of that with Rupert Murdoch,
and that was a huge game changer. And he partnered
with Pepsi and Phil Knight of Nike to do merchandising
(36:44):
deals away from what collectively the NFL had done. And
the NFL sued him, and he countersued the NFL and
it the NFL basically tried to take his team away,
and he counters and he won. He won that so
he was able to keep his team.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Scout and oh it wasn't I don't when he first
bought the stadium and the team, the official soda pop
of the NFL was co. He brought in Pepsi and
they paid the Cowboys and the stadium and not and
not you know, he didn't worry about what the NFL
(37:25):
was trying to do. He also did that with the
American Express. He brought official credit card the Dallas Cowboys
the American Express instead of Visa. So he came in
and I said this here today, and Doner said, he
bought the franchise for one hundred and some million. He
recouped those hundreds of millions in advertising deals with American
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Express and PEPSI was like in the first handful of
years of him his ownership, and I think a lot
of other franchises started saying, well, you mean you can
own your stadium and market your own state. He even
make makes serious.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Which everybody does. Now everybody does that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Now he has made and I know Goodell's been at
the Helm at a great time of a surgeence of
of the NFL and the money the owners make. But
it started with Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones opened that Pandora's
box and the reason that what what did we say
(38:24):
the franchise, the Knicks franchise may go for seven nine
billion dollars And he bought his for one hundred and
seventy five.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
One hundred and fifty five or something.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Million, fifty one hundred and fifty five million. Yep, that's
Jerry Jones. Guys. You know now has he not won?
He's had nine losing seasons. Is thirty one years as
the owner. Not bad, and he's got three Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Okay, yeah, man, he put it on the line too,
and he made one hundred million dollars in oil, used
all of it to buy the Cowboys, which is, by
the way, it's exactly what Pat Bowland did to own
the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Who who who was the first owner to also build
like a super stadium?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
H Are you are you.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
When Jerry? When Jerry beat Jerry World? I don't know
if you guys have been a game there. I've been
a game there. It's fantastic. Now, look at every stadium
that comes up after after Jerry Jones built the new
Jerry World. Everybody's trying to out do everything. Look what
so FIG is. I mean, everybody is getting bigger. Wait
till you see that one out in Loan Tree that
(39:40):
the Broncos are gonna build. You see that thing? See
what that looks like?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yeah, we'll see it. And well that's that's the standard
for for operating everything. So we'll see where that goes
open for no dumb question, you guys got anything else?
What's what's what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (39:57):
You guys late night stackers? Wow, we'll try not to
be I've a got a good habit. I like, I've
been on this health kick and everything. Man, I do
great all day, and it's just like that, it's the
hours between eight pm and when I go to bed
that it's just everything goes to hell in a handbasket.
My no dumb question is is it humanly possible to
(40:19):
eat a singular bowl of cereal?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
You're eating cereal late at night?
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, Cereal's my go to late night choice.
Why Why do I think that I'm capable every single
night of eating a singular bowl of cereal without that
turning into five bowls of cereal?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Maybe if you did fiber brand instead. Well, I'm doing health.
I'm actually doing healthy cereal. I'm doing protein cereal. So
I am doing that and that's my justification when I
started that. I don't have to feel so bad because
I'm eating healthy cereal. I'm even I'm even using like
like car Master milk, you know, like like I'm doing
that whole thing.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Scott. But when you eat five bowls of it, it
doesn't make it any better.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
No, but Alicia putting protein in there, so sure that's true.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
You're right, yeah, you're fine. No, no, no, but but but.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
When do you eat your last food?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Oh my gosh, that the problem is am I drinking
or not? If I'm drinking, then there's no control, there's
it's all out the door. Who knows, unpredictable.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
How many nights do you not drinking?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I tried, I tried. I might have like maybe two
nights a week that I have, like you know, a
couple of cocktails or something. I try not to do
it more than two nights a week. I'm definitely not
one of them guys that like I had a pal.
It was it was amazing because I lived with him
for a short period of time while I moved into
my digs in Maryland, and he would come home from
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work and he would go straight to the refrigerator every
night and he would just stand in front of the
refrigerator and pound a beer. Found it like, just drink
it at three refrigerator. Then he would grab a second
beer and he would sip it and goes, let's go
play Madden.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
We would go down and play Madden for like an
hour or whatever before dinner. He would do this every
single day. He ended up divorced. But uh yeah, so
no I don't. I don't do that, but I could
get you. The drinking get you obviously.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
How about the drinking during COVID you yet, That's why
I no longer drink Scott because drinking drink during COVID
glass sounded pretty good. Every night glass turned out the
two you know, yeah two turned into whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, it turned into a nightcap to let's stay up
another three hours and finish this bottle of buffalo trace off, I.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Mean, and then I was streaming every show on Knowing
to Mankind, and I was like, well, I bet it
might as well just watch one more episode.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Right, Oh my god, Tyler. On the text line, I've
been bringing four bags of little Bite muffins to bed
for my midnight stack for the.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Last two Hey, those are another one. Anybody hold on, anybody,
anybody that's got kids can relate with that dude right there.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
The little four pack packets.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Yeah, because those things are like cracked, they are. They're
absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yeah, those things are dangerous. It just takes them to bed.
I take four bags with me to bed.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
Yeah, yeah, I got you man. All right, I've definitely
been liable in a in a previous life to eat
an entire box of fruit snacks at once.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
That's too funny, too funny.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
All right, We'll just get you like those they have,
those little packs of uh nuts. Just put some nuts
in your mouth before you go to bed.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Oh, I do that every night.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
That marinate. That's where we didn't need a sound effect.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Settle in.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Seriously, they got I gotta I keep a jar of
peanuts and pecans and almonds.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
And is it fair to say you love nuts?
Speaker 2 (44:07):
That's them in the car. Haven't even opened.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Whoa Okay, big question of the day, Devon Valley. How
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Man Trade Davon Veile.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We're really excited to have an opportunity to bring him
and on board him with us.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Obviously a really good player, really good person, really.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Had a productive year last year in Denver, and so
it felt like as we went through the hey, you're
always looking for guys, looking for opportunities, it felt like
it was a great, great opportunity for us to get
a younger guy second year in the league that's still
developing and growing and it'll be great for our for
our team. And so as a result, we did have
to release Donovan People's jones, which is always the challenging
part of this and you know, other than that, we
should be good to go roster wise. I don't think
(00:47):
anything from an injury standpoints changed. And as far as
we look forward to this Denver game, you know, plan
is to get as many of the starters playing as
we can. You know, we'll see how long that goes,
but we'll try and get those guys some game time action,
Which how about that?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
So vle just goes and plays against the Broncos. I
guess there you go. Kind of a twist, kind of
an odd one. I suppose have.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We heard whether or not in New Orleans to play
in their starters.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
He might have just said. He just said they're gonna
go as long as they can, like he's gonna play them.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Dude, if we're doing sports talk radio in New Orleans
right now, are you not ripping this organization for a
team that, hey, we should be an outright tank mode,
accumulating as many draft picks as we possibly can, and
yet we're giving up a fourth and a seventh for
Devon Vley.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
If I'm doing sports talk, I may be like, who
the Devon?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
What?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Who is this? And then I find out he's twenty
seven years old as a second year player, I know,
and he caught how many forty one passes?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
And it sounds like we're ripping on Von Vley. And
that's not my intention, because Von Valley is a hell
of a football player. He is a hell of a
football player. What I am ripping is not de von Vley.
I'm ripping an organization that should be accumulating draft picks
right now because they are not gonna win games this year,
and yet they're going out there and giving up a
fourth and the seventh for a middle of the road
wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
You know what teams can't help.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You know, we're missing on this Tyler going on that
vein and what you just said when the Broncos shucked
they had no picks. I mean kind of like what
you're saying, New Orleans is putting theirself into. It seemed
like all them years we were in they're having five picks,
seven no picks. Now the Broncos are gonna get good
and they're gonna be loaded with picks left and right.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's great, exactly right on. But so we're making fun
of New Orleans, which I agree with if I'm a
New Orleans timan Listen, Vedy's gonna be a good player
and I think he'll be their leading reception receiver next year.
He's twenty seven, and you gave a fourth round pick too.
I know the seventh round is for knicks for the
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twenty seventh year. I believe right, the twenty seventh draft.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, but still, oh well, Man agreed and I read
today too, that the Saints are looking to trade for
like a running back, like they're willing to give up
more stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Estimate. Let's go, I told you that, you guys poop
pooed me earlier.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
They're definitely not in tank mode, not not intentionally.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It appears you believe in Tyler Shuck or Spencer Rattler.
I guess. I mean, if I'm if I'm doing sports
talk in New Orleans, You're right, I'm apoplectic, I'm pissed.
I'm like, hey, we got a tank for Arch? What
are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
If you if you were doing sports talk in New Orleans,
you would put a what was that thing you did
for Tebow?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
The ten reasons the manifesto work?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, the Shuck manifesto.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, but shucked. Well, here's the difference.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Hey, Spitzer, Rattler's number one on the depth chart five
save Rattler manifesto.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
No, no, no, you gotta understand, man, these are not
first round guys. If the Saints really are truly trying
to win with Rattler and Shuck, they are bucking the
trend of the vast majority of NFL teams. Now, Listen,
they're doing something that if they're really serious about this,
very brave because they're trying to go low budget on
the quarterback, which allows them to sort of pile up
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other places. I don't know, do you think a team
can ever seriously win by being able to replace a
quarterback who's sort of a mid round guy and just
kind of mediocre every four years or so while you
pile up great players at other positions.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I mean, I don't know about the replacing them every
four years, but yes, I do think you could find
quarterbacks outside the first round.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Well, you'd have to do this with this strategy, because
if they're any good, they're gonna cost you fifty to
sixty million dollars because that's just that's what they go for.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The their super Bowl back in was it two thousand
and two thousand and two, whatever year they wanted, whatever
year that was. Who is their quarterback that, by the way,
didn't start the season. We took over a trend team
like the third or fourth game, the Ravens right Tred
Delfer took over like the third, fourth, fifth week, something
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like that. That's the middle of the road quarterback. But
here's the difference in how, Yes, you can win with
middle of the road guys, you have a defense that
is like all world, right, and you still have you
had probably what Tyler won the best, if not the
best running back at the time, and he had a
Hall of Fame tight end on the on the team. Right,
that's how you do it. But even though ain't got
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that stuff, a.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Rock party at some point, no matter where he was drafted,
if he's the right guy, you're paying him fifty million dollars.
So I would just rather start with the first round guy,
try to win in his first five years and and
then you know, you got to pay him eventually. That
that is a very traditional way.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
To go, or you start over with a new first
round guy.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Uh, well, right, of course. And so if I'm doing
sports sock radio in New Orleans, I am pissed today.
You're right, I'm like, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
This is we need to be accumulating draft picks?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, well what pick was?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
What round was he? I have your third round? I
think the second rounder. He was the second rounder. Okay, Well,
as I'm concerned, that's too late. I don't know, man,
and and he's behind Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Yeah for now?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Okay, Well that's another discombinedronos. Okay, well that's a messed
up organization right there. They really don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Schuck was fortieth overall.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Okay, Well, they're not that committed to them, are they?
Who they take in the first round?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
There are eight spots away from what you would define
as committed.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, it's a big difference in my world. Why I
don't want to bore everybody with it, but either you're
committed to your weight.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I mean it's literally eight picks.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Well yeah, but I don't want to get into it
because it's not just the first round. It's as high.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
As the thirty second pick. Did he have a second round?
Great on him? He picks away from the first round,
And I'm saying, whoever was drafted this year the thirty
second pick, chances are he had a second round ground
probably right?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So what's the difference at forty thirty two or pick
this year twenty eight?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Maybe it's the level of commitment to the player, That's
what it's all about. And where you're Are you really
going to focus your offense and your coaching staff around
that person? Are you gonna put your arms around him
like and It makes a huge difference, and the answer
is clearly know in New Orleans, by the way, clearly no.
So if Benzer Rattler is ahead of him on the
depth chart, like you really just don't care that much
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about this guy. This was Drew Locke's problem, by the way,
being a second round pick. They just weren't that into him,
not really not enough, and it just was a disaster
about whatever. That's New Orleans problem. The Broncos got it right.
It's a great deal for the Broncos, great deal, and
and it just.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Cleans so many things up for the Broncos. It's nobody's
anti Davon Valley. Everybody loved Von Vley. But you had
six wide receivers that all had to make the roster.
If you didn't trade one of these guys, you had
no choice but to keep them all because they're all
too talented. And then that means on game day you
were going to have a healthy scratch of a very
very productive football player that you're carrying for really no reason.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, I love it. Anybody else on the TEP it does.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Put a lot of pressure on Pat Bryant, though I
will say that it puts immediate pressure Pat Bryant better
be the dude that they think he is.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, let me ask, just if you project in Maley
forty one last year, are their projections at him for
fifty one this year sixty one? What do you think
the projections would have been? Because they do that in
the offices, right, what do you think they projected him at?
And they are they looking at it and go listen,
Pat Bryant's probably gonna do whatever we project Vyleay to
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do this year and we get a fourth rounder.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, well, I think that's exactly what they're telling you.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I think the story, too, is the ascension of Troy
Franklin and what they think of him and where he's going,
and all of a sudden, the value on Troy Franklin
is kind of shooting through the roof.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
And Troy Franklin just immediately got thrust it into your
number two wide receiver, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I guess let me put this out that we haven't
said that that Andy was saying yesterday when this all
came down, and understanding unless it's changing, if it has,
correct me and you guys are saying, listen to Orton's
gonna suck. Well, guess what it's New Orleans fourth round pick.
So it's that's good. Chances are they could be like
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the second or third pick in the fourth round.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
It's another good one, no doubt about it. All right,
we will have Shadur Sanders responding to Dylan Gabriel's entertainer
and competitor comment. We'll have that coming up. He answered
those questions today, so stick around for that. Scott, what
do you got going on? You got something? What do
you say, stupid or interesting?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, it's well both. I gotta pull up, so I
want you guys pull up your phones or look up
right now the Hotel Colorado and just put Hotel Colorado haunted, okay, okay,
which I didn't realize till I was about to leave.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I heard Bose trying to tell us it was haunted
this morning. Yeah, it's often excited as one of the
most haunted hotels in Colorado. Bo I stayed there last night,
and you're still here, Well, thank you very much. So
I get last night and I and I had looked
up something that said room five forty five. One of
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the things on Google was one of the hotel rooms
to where they had to shut it down now they
make it a storage whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
That's Scott. Oh four fifty four, yeap, this this room
is rumored to be where the chambermaid was murdered, and
it's now a storage area with the padlock.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Okay, ok.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So guess what. Guess what room number? I was?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Four fifty four is hunted. So were you in four
fifty three?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Five fifty well, no, I was in five fifty one.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Oh oh, hold on five point fifty one, fifth floor
reports of high EMF energy and the male spirit near
room five point fifty one and the attic.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, and the stairs to the attic was right across
my door. Oh my door, and there it was right there.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Did you feel the male spirit?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No? So anyway, I'm starting to read this thing and
I'm like, oh gosh, really no, no, I got the
protection of Jesus, so I was good. But i mean, like,
still you're thinking, here here we go, we got so go?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
So wait, hold on? Does that a thought through your
head though, like as you late, Well, I'm alright, I
got the protection of Jesus.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I put my little little.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So it's still in your head though you were feeling
good about it, but still you were thinking that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah a little bit okay. So all of a sudden, Julie,
Julie the war facetize. He goes, Oh my god, you
said five fifty one. Check when I just sent you.
So she sends me one, two, three, four, five, five
pages of five point fifty one. Being haunted, uh nineteen
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eighty two. During renovations espressly put wallper would just consistently
be rolled up and peeled off the floor and found
on the bed. Blah blah blah, stuck in. No other
disturbance occur high electric EMF energy scene two thousand and six,
around eight to ten mg versus the baseline of three
to five. Just a concentrationious spirit, injury, visual phenomenon, and
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operation reports. I'm reading all this and I'm laying in
bed like it's like nine thirty nine. I'm getting I'm
reading all this thing. Oh my gosh, no to bed, decorating, spirit,
visual phenomenon, map, paray. I'm going through this on man,
I need to stop reading this because yeah, I gotta
stay in this room.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And just go to bed.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And then I'm looking. I see if you can see this,
Look what says at.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
The very up and that you gotta just tell us.
I see there's something about it. Can you see anybody
when some consider I mean, I can you know, just
read it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's just chat GPT. Yeah, the witch got a jet
chat GPT. It says, write me a haunting story about
room five point fifty one at the Hotel Colorado at
Glenwood Springs. Well, I get through three pages of this,
starting to work myself up a little bit before I
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realized I look at the top. I said, chat GPT.
Oh that that so anyway? I called her back. I
go really really because she got me. She got me
three pages deep into that thing, getting a little nervous
before I turned to the fourth page and went chat GPT.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
She just made it all up.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Well that the a I did the warden the warden, uh,
that the warden got on her phone into chat freak.
Take write me a good story about the hauntings of
room five point fifty one at the Hotel Colorado.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I mean the real quest, I mean, did you not
did you see anything that you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Thought was hana? I told you I had I had protection, dog,
I had protection.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Well, you've seen plenty of things in the past, and
I apparently you weren't protected.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yes I have, Yes I have.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
But were you not protected at that point of your life?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I was not. No, I was not Tyler. I was not.
I was a fool in my follies. But anyway, so
I thought you guys said that bit funny that the
ward would think, think he'd use AI and send that
to me just to try to give me a fright.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I think it's awesome that a great wife tries to
scare the crap out of her. Oh that's well done
out of her husbands.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I definitely respect the hustle.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yes, now that's a good hustle. Now, this hotel was
built in eighteen ninety or something like that, eighteen ninety three.
I mean it's got some history and it looks like
an old hotel. Yeah. Oh it's giant.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I stay there one time. It's because it's so convenient
to the hot Hot Springs. It's right there. I think
you can take a bridge right way. Yeah, it's right
across the Yeah. Yeah, so you didn't go to the
hot Springs, did you.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I didn't know hospital.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But I was sitting there thinking, well, I didn't want
to walk back from the hot Springs at eleven o'clock
at night.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
It's the hotel. Wait a second, what happened to the
protection that doesn't cover you if you go for a swim?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That would have it would have absolutely But no, I
just I listened. You don't understand. I told you this
their day traveling. Yeah. Man, I got in the room,
filled my take up when I landed there. When I
got to the glen Wood Springs, got a bag of
chips and a diet coke and went went to my
room and sat there and turned on So I didn't
even know what I watched.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I hope it was a horror film. Yeah right, put
something on there, you know, the Shining Jack Nicholson. No,
you know, something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You could have put on watch him shows anyone.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You could have put on another horror show, just highlights
of the Rockies first half before the All Star break? Hello,
any ghosts here?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Now? You know why we don't respond, don't you? Is
that just like a ghost that just opens the door.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
To go.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I did watch a horror movie the other day.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I don't ever watch him HERODIC. Have you guys seen it?
I have no, I have not it's uh, gosh, what's
the dude's name? Still time out, Hugh Grant? Is that
is it?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
It?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I have seen that.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, he lures the girls in the basement.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I did see that. That is a crazy one. It's
a good one.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah. It was pretty good.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, fun fun topic. They're they're Mormon girl. Yeah,
the Mormons that we're gonna learn lure the Mormons into
a basement and then you know whatever with them. Oh,
and then there's another person.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
In the base.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
We're gonna kill the others, boltim.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Are we spoiling it? Yeah, we're gonna have a little
experiment with people in the basement.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, they spoiled that movie. All you want, Well, we.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Just did just horror film.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, he was good in it.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Your Cry from the Rock Cop.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I could see him sitting in the Starbucks just staring
off into the wilderness.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I could too after seeing that movie.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well hear from Shadur Sanders if you can take it
coming up next year on PhD. It feels like because
of Prime and see you in that connection there that
that I feel connected to what's going on with Sadur
and then the drama with the Browns is pretty significant.
I'm watching the Dallas Cowboys thing finish watching that. Holy cow,
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what they did for Jerry Jones on that one, My goodness.
But but there's a whole thing about prime. You know,
it feels dumb to even say this, but we may
slightly forget how good of a football player Dion Sanders was.
I don't know because it is more than thirty years ago,
but oh my god, when you just see, Oh my god,
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and I had forgotten that he played receiver?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Was he the original entertainer? Oh man, all the dance
in the high step end, all that. Maybe there were
some guys that came before him.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
He was all of that heat.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
He took it to another level. I mean, you gotta
look at Billy White Shoes, Johnson and Elmore, Otis Taylor,
guys like that. But he he uh as a defensive
player because those guys, those guys are all offensive guys. Well,
I had he was like the first defensive guy that
you know, did the high step in the end and
stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
True, but he played receiver in the Super Bowl like
he got snaps and caught passes and you know, for
the Niners and for the Cowboys. He's on the Niners
one year winning Super Bowl. On the Cowboys the next year,
winning Super Bowl. He did play offense and took kicks
and was the best corner of all time. Like they
were just like both teams were just you know, we
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make this big deal about Travis Hunter, but Prim did
all of this same stuff at the highest level. Like
they had packages for him. I'm not saying he was
like a full time receiver, but I was like, I
had totally forgotten that he had caught passes during the
Super Bowl for those teams, It's like, WHOA. So again
my respect for Prime in terms of being an athlete
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was I mean, it's out of control. So anyway, we
fast forward all these years later, right, and here is
what should dr Well, we let's start with Dylan Gabroe.
What he said when asked about the media. Right, that's
the context of this whole thing. He was asked about
the media with the entertainment thing. Yeah, okay, it's just
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part of it.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
You know, there's there's entertainers and there's competitors, and I
totally understand that, and my job is to compete and
that's what I'm focused on doing.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Of course, we're.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Doing this mid game, but you know it's something that
I'll get used and just want to be the best
team that I can and create an environment where we
can all go do our best work. That's all we
want to do.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Okay, shot or not a shot at Shadar.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Well, the context of the question was that he had
previously been asked about blocking out the noise from the media, right,
and that was his response. So his response is, there's
entertainers and there's competitors. I do not believe that it
was a shot at sheddur Sanders at all, at least
not intentionally. But anybody can take anything they need to
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feel their own fire. And if you're the type of
dude that gets driven off of bolted board stuff, then
you can turn it into shot if you want to.
But the context of the question was specifically in regards
to blocking out the noise for the media.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Scott, shot or not a shot?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Tyler was just talking about you, a B. I didn't
know the entire context. If I did not know the
entire context, then my answer would have been what you say,
and I would have said yes. But I didn't know
what Tyler just just inform me.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
You know, there's a story that George Carl says that
he was at a restaurant one time and Michael Jordan
walked in and he didn't see him or catch him,
and Jordan thought it was a snub, and Jordan always
used that when playing George Carl's teams or something. This
is to your point, like, if you want to make
it something, sure know you can do it. Like I mean,
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was Csu really making it about you know, Prime's mama.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
He was talking about mama, right, but was he he
was talking about his mamba?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Okay, listen, if you want to make it personal, you can.
And I think the Sanders family has a long history
of using things like this as motivating and us against
the world, and we'll prove you wrong in all of that.
So whether or not Dylan Gabriel really meant that against Shedr,
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it is reasonable that you could take it that way.
So here's Shadur's response to it today.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
Honestly, I don't I don't even think about nothing, and
I don't think about anything if it's not words or anything.
You know, at this point can't do anything to me.
You know, I know, you know that God put the
ability into power within me to not even think about
nobody else comments not care.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It is what it is.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
I spoke with him. He said, nah, bro, it wasn't
he said that wasn't he told me on the plane.
He came up and he was like, nah, bro, that
wasn't that. Trusty how he trying to spend I'm like, oh,
I'm not trupid.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Regardless of whatever it was.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
I don't nobody's words that anything affects me.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You know, So you believe hi when he told you,
was that on you? Did? I believe him?
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I mean, I feel like you trying to start something.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
He's doing his job.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
He spoke to man, you don't feel like he did.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I don't know. And that's not on me to.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Sit here and be like, oh he did, he did it.
That's not gonna save my life in any way.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah, he took the bait, oh man. I mean he
definitely took the baby.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
And that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I mean, if you're the type of tooth it's gonna
get motivated by that stuff. Fine, Okay, go for it.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
It's a little bit unusual when it's your own teammate.
Usually you're just like, yeah, I know, he didn't mean anything.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
That is not what he said.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Kind of did and then he backed off of it.
You know, he said he came up to be on
the plane and I was said, hey, I'm not sure,
but don't worry about it, right but then he backed
off of it.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
That is interesting, Okay, whatever a whatever works for you.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean that the d MAC would would would love
to be a talk show host in New Orleans after
all their moves. Now I'm thinking he would really love
to be in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Oh my god, Cleveland is his wet dream, dude. Cleveland
is to be a sports lock coast in Cleveland right now?
Is the best? Are you nuts? That is well the
best you have to live in Cleveland theoretically, unless you
could be doing it from you know, I don't know, Aspen, Butland. Yeah, man,
but there's no doubt the biggest drama in the NFL
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right now is Cleveland. It's not even close. What's second
in the NFL right now?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Uh yeah, Cam Hayward and his contract with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I mean, I don't know what's the second biggest drama
in the NFL right now?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Dallas.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're definitely right. Okay, good drama.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yeah, yeah, there you go, that's good too. What exactly
is ther that's good? So again, you gotta live in Cincinnati,
but you know, maybe Kentucky. Okay, cool, There's there's two, Terry,
there's three, okay cool? Where where are the Broncos? By
the way, on this list? Everybody's doing lists these days.
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Most of this best a look at this, look at that.
If we're doing drama lists, where exactly would Broncos be?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
You know what the drama is. There's only one drama
with the Broncos that's significant, and it's so low that
it's barely worth mentioning. And that's Nick Benito and that's
not even like drama right now.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
And when Nick got up there and spoke on it,
our takeaway was take that was refreshing. Hearing the guy
talk about it like that, that was refreshing. He's just
gonna go out there and he's gonna go to work,
and he's make d back look like a fool.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
He did check. I guess. I mean there's nothing there,
so there's nothing really to talk about. So okay, but
that is funny to hear Shadura stir the pot there
a little bit instead of just he could have easily
just said I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Think that was really smart on his behalf. I don't
I think that the team. I think that the coaches,
they've all been waiting just to see when there's gonna
be something, you know, and that it was. At first
it was the the boom box entrance with his teammate
and like, okay, whatever, he's doing his deal. I didn't
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necessarily love that. I liked when he was walking in
the shadows.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
And I don't necessarily love this either, because I think
it just gives affirmation to anybody out there that is
waiting to point the finger and say, hey, you're gonna
be about the drama.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I'm trying to think for the Broncos, when there were
probably quarterbacks that didn't get along that great or there
were things between them.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah, but I mean publicly and privately, it's always different team,
you know.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I think t Bow and Orton were like that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I don't think Orton well, I mean, Tyler no better
than me, but it didn't seem like they were buddy buddy.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Was there drama between Maddox.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
And Elway, Oh that could have been. You would have
understood it right. It would have made sense.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Man, the Browns have themselves to blame for this. They
they've they've set up this situation. Where where did they
think this was?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Point out? The latest rumor is Deshaun Watson's gonna come
back earlier expected. Well, just throw him into the becks.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Now, okay, well there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Going back, it'll be an inchting two weeks and we'll
probably get to see exactly what Cleveland's gonna do in
their quarterback room.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Going back to this Cowboys documentary, Hey, what's your guys
opinion of Troy Aikman. What do you think of Troy Aikman?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
What's the question as a broadcaster period?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Just in general Troy Aikman, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I think I thought he's a pretty pretty good quarterback.
Seemed like a good lead leader. But I think he
sometimes acts like he's got something up the patuti.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
He seems a little bit grumpy, for sure. You can
see that. He just he looks tired, like he's always
got blotch on eyes and he just looks tired.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
He was a shirk. He hated Switzer, hated him, and he.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Transfer from Oklahoma because of Switzerland.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
That's right, and he would put oh wow, he would
put things in the media of trying to get him fired. Meanwhile, Scott,
I didn't realize Switzer was beloved by the other guys
on the team. They freaking loved him.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I didn't know that part of it though, Scott. So
he played for him in college and then left. Yeah, yes,
oh left fascinating he went to USC.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I think, yeah, they won a Super Bowl. They didn't talk.
How about that? There was no communication.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
With Tom Dalen and Rico.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Was that was that the case?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
There was an entire year that Tom Dalen would not
communicate with Rico. Those two had to communicate through intermediaries.
They literally would's job Rico's no line coach. Rico was
the offensive line coach, and Tom Dalen refused to speak
to him for an entire season, to the degree that Tom,
like in a in a meeting, if if Rico would
(28:57):
say something Tom, Tom would would would turn to somebody
next to him, whispered to him, and then that person
would say it back to Rico.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
That went on for a whole year, a year. Wow, wow,
Well here you go, man, I mean it's it's I
don't know. I think Troy Yeman is just kind of
a jerk in all honesty, but he loved Jimmy Johnson,
and Jimmy Johnson was a ballbuster and Barry Switzer wasn't.
Barry Switzer was a hug him and put your arm
(29:25):
around him and that sort of guy. They both won
Super Bowls. You know, they probably could have done better,
but it just it just it was fascinating to me.
And I don't know if you guys have ever been
part of it. Can you really win? And I guess
they did. When somebody very important to your team is
totally disconnected from the head coach, pretty damn.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Tough with it's QB.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, but who's the offensive coordinator that year? So I
gotta believe that Turner was the guy and he loved nor.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
And then I think it became chan Gaily after that. Yeah,
I meant think Norv got an opportunity went somewhere. But yeah,
Norm was the right hand man. And when Switzer inherited
the team, Jerry Jones kept all of the same coordinators.
Switzer didn't hire one of his own guys. It didn't
matter Jerry Jones two is a tear all right, bigger
question and Jerry Jones, he got the Cowboys, they were terrible,
(30:18):
and then they won three Super Bowls in four years
and were pretty good in the fifth year even though,
so they had a really good five year run and
good have won five Super Bowls in a row. Then
there were thirty years after that where they have not
made it to the NFC Championship Game, never winning a
Super Bowl. So you got five, you got terrible. When
he first bought the team, built him up five extraordinarily
(30:41):
good years, including three Super Bowls, and then thirty years.
Is that Is he a good owner or a terrible owner?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well, let's go back to our conversation with the Rockies
and what they've done. Is he running a business or
is he running a family?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Oh, he definitely sees it as both. Jerry Jones. He
has three of his kids who are running the Cowboys
behind the scenes right now, two sons and a daughter.
He definitely he is not gonna ever give up, you know,
control this Michael Parsons thing. He is sunk in man.
He doesn't care. He let he he didn't sign EMMITTT.
(31:23):
Smith and they played two games in the regular season
without Emmitt Smith.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I think big picture, it would be really tough to
put the entire resume together and not say he was
a great.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Owner, great owner.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
What year did he buy the team?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Eighty nine?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So the year they went one in fifteen with Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
They went one in fifteen, Yeah, I think so is
he a nine or ninety something like that? So well,
fifteen with Troy, No, I think they won a couple
of games. I think they actually got worse in the
second year with Troy Aikman. Once he got Troy, they
win one in fifteen. I think that was the year
he owned it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Eighty eight, they were three and thirteen. Eighty nine, they
were one in fifteen. Okay, they were seven and nine
and two, three, four or five six years. Their worst
season was ten and six and they won three Super Bowls,
lost to the conference finals once, lost two division games.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah, they were incredible, they were unbelievable. But they haven't
been back to an NFC championship game guys in thirty years.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah since uh, since they won the Super Bowl ninety five.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
How about that? So is he a great owner or
a terrible owner? But Tyler big picture, yeah, because he
got him three super Bowls. At the end of the
eight years of the row.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
They won the Super Bowl three and lost to the
Conference finals once.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Right, Yeah, they were great at that time. Yeah, but
it's been thirty years, guys, thirty years and he ain't changing, man,
he is he And they interviewed his son and his like,
what's the succession plan? There is none?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Dies?
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Like?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
There is no handing the team over while Jerry Jones
is alive.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
It'll happen at some point, but no.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
So this is Michael Parsons thing. Man, this thing could
easily go into the regular season easily.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yeah, I don't know what the heck's going on there.
I mean they might be barely down the path of
a double franchise stack on that dude.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Maybe there certainly could do it.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well. I think he and I said to here to day,
I think he's in the same boat the Rockies are
as far as going out and getting free agent pitchers.
And after they had a couple of guys blow up
on him in Hampton and Nagel and even Kyle, right,
Kyle went on a pitch better they or Hampton pitched
great in Atlanta and Kyle pitched pretty good in Saint Louis.
(33:53):
After they left, the Rockies Nagel and I don't think
you ever pitched again. So they've been gunning since that time,
I really do. I think the Dallas Cowboy was Jerry
Jones's gun shy because of Dak Prescott's contract.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Maybe maybe, but he'll stick to his guns. Well, we'll
see what happens. I don't really care about the Cowboys.
I'm just more concerned about Nick Benito, Like, well, what's
gonna happen? And if they're really waiting for that, then
how do you feel about them? I mean, how long
can you wait? You know, how long is it gonna go?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Well, at some point it'll become clear that they're not
getting a deal done, So I think you wait until
it's clear. I think it's waiting until it's obvious that
he's holding out for an entire season or whatever. I mean,
something will clear up.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Jerry Jones may be one of the most narcissistic guys
ever in the history of sports period the end. And
he's bought any organization anything, And the reason why he
hates Jimmy Johnson this is so wild, all these years later,
is a disagreement about whose idea the Herschel Walker trade is.
To this day, they can't agree on it forty years
(34:57):
later or whatever. It's unbelievable. My idea, no, that is
that is the root of why they hate each other.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
It's unbelievable, unbelievable. All right, we'll come back with no
dumb Questions next.
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Speaker 5 (35:18):
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I'm leaning into the segments.
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Speaker 4 (35:31):
Two five on the shat Mas, the text line, how
do you have six or seven great years and thirty
bad to awful years and say Jerry Jones is a
great owner.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Well, you were just bringing up a lot of stuff
that you did for the NFL, right, which other owners
in the NFL should be very grateful to Jerry Jones
for the amount of money that he made everybody. But
that doesn't make him a great owner of that franchise, right,
I don't know. I mean, listen, you had hell of
a run. It's been a long time, but are the
(36:04):
Dallas Cowboys not interesting every year? Are they not relevant
every year? Are they not in the storyline every year?
As a fan? Is really I mean, it's not realistic
to think that your team is gonna be competing for
championships all the time. But I mean, isn't that your
dream to always have an interesting football team.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Here's the two things that Jerry Jones did that changed
the NFL. He negotiated a one point six billion dollars deal.
He was the key cog of that with Rupert Murdoch,
and that was a huge game changer. And he partnered
with Pepsi and Phil Knight of Nike to do merchandising
(36:44):
deals away from what collectively the NFL had done. And
the NFL sued him, and he countersued the NFL and
it the NFL basically tried to take his team away,
and he counters and he won. He won that so
he was able to keep his team.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Scout and oh it wasn't I don't when he first
bought the stadium and the team, the official soda pop
of the NFL was co. He brought in Pepsi and
they paid the Cowboys and the stadium and not and
not you know, he didn't worry about what the NFL
(37:25):
was trying to do. He also did that with the
American Express. He brought official credit card the Dallas Cowboys
the American Express instead of Visa. So he came in
and I said this here today, and Doner said, he
bought the franchise for one hundred and some million. He
recouped those hundreds of millions in advertising deals with American
(37:46):
Express and PEPSI was like in the first handful of
years of him his ownership, and I think a lot
of other franchises started saying, well, you mean you can
own your stadium and market your own state. He even
make makes serious.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Which everybody does. Now everybody does that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Now he has made and I know Goodell's been at
the Helm at a great time of a surgeence of
of the NFL and the money the owners make. But
it started with Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones opened that Pandora's
box and the reason that what what did we say
(38:24):
the franchise, the Knicks franchise may go for seven nine
billion dollars And he bought his for one hundred and
seventy five.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
One hundred and fifty five or something.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Million, fifty one hundred and fifty five million. Yep, that's
Jerry Jones. Guys. You know now has he not won?
He's had nine losing seasons. Is thirty one years as
the owner. Not bad, and he's got three Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Okay, yeah, man, he put it on the line too,
and he made one hundred million dollars in oil, used
all of it to buy the Cowboys, which is, by
the way, it's exactly what Pat Bowland did to own
the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Who who who was the first owner to also build
like a super stadium?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
H Are you are you.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
When Jerry? When Jerry beat Jerry World? I don't know
if you guys have been a game there. I've been
a game there. It's fantastic. Now, look at every stadium
that comes up after after Jerry Jones built the new
Jerry World. Everybody's trying to out do everything. Look what
so FIG is. I mean, everybody is getting bigger. Wait
till you see that one out in Loan Tree that
(39:40):
the Broncos are gonna build. You see that thing? See
what that looks like?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yeah, we'll see it. And well that's that's the standard
for for operating everything. So we'll see where that goes
open for no dumb question, you guys got anything else?
What's what's what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (39:57):
You guys late night stackers? Wow, we'll try not to
be I've a got a good habit. I like, I've
been on this health kick and everything. Man, I do
great all day, and it's just like that, it's the
hours between eight pm and when I go to bed
that it's just everything goes to hell in a handbasket.
My no dumb question is is it humanly possible to
(40:19):
eat a singular bowl of cereal?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
You're eating cereal late at night?
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, Cereal's my go to late night choice.
Why Why do I think that I'm capable every single
night of eating a singular bowl of cereal without that
turning into five bowls of cereal?
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Maybe if you did fiber brand instead. Well, I'm doing health.
I'm actually doing healthy cereal. I'm doing protein cereal. So
I am doing that and that's my justification when I
started that. I don't have to feel so bad because
I'm eating healthy cereal. I'm even I'm even using like
like car Master milk, you know, like like I'm doing
that whole thing.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Scott. But when you eat five bowls of it, it
doesn't make it any better.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
No, but Alicia putting protein in there, so sure that's true.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
You're right, yeah, you're fine. No, no, no, but but but.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
When do you eat your last food?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Oh my gosh, that the problem is am I drinking
or not? If I'm drinking, then there's no control, there's
it's all out the door. Who knows, unpredictable.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
How many nights do you not drinking?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I tried, I tried. I might have like maybe two
nights a week that I have, like you know, a
couple of cocktails or something. I try not to do
it more than two nights a week. I'm definitely not
one of them guys that like I had a pal.
It was it was amazing because I lived with him
for a short period of time while I moved into
my digs in Maryland, and he would come home from
(41:52):
work and he would go straight to the refrigerator every
night and he would just stand in front of the
refrigerator and pound a beer. Found it like, just drink
it at three refrigerator. Then he would grab a second
beer and he would sip it and goes, let's go
play Madden.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
We would go down and play Madden for like an
hour or whatever before dinner. He would do this every
single day. He ended up divorced. But uh yeah, so
no I don't. I don't do that, but I could
get you. The drinking get you obviously.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
How about the drinking during COVID you yet, That's why
I no longer drink Scott because drinking drink during COVID
glass sounded pretty good. Every night glass turned out the
two you know, yeah two turned into whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, it turned into a nightcap to let's stay up
another three hours and finish this bottle of buffalo trace off, I.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Mean, and then I was streaming every show on Knowing
to Mankind, and I was like, well, I bet it
might as well just watch one more episode.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Right, Oh my god, Tyler. On the text line, I've
been bringing four bags of little Bite muffins to bed
for my midnight stack for the.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Last two Hey, those are another one. Anybody hold on, anybody,
anybody that's got kids can relate with that dude right there.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
The little four pack packets.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Yeah, because those things are like cracked, they are. They're
absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yeah, those things are dangerous. It just takes them to bed.
I take four bags with me to bed.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
Yeah, yeah, I got you man. All right, I've definitely
been liable in a in a previous life to eat
an entire box of fruit snacks at once.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
That's too funny, too funny.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
All right, We'll just get you like those they have,
those little packs of uh nuts. Just put some nuts
in your mouth before you go to bed.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Oh, I do that every night.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
That marinate. That's where we didn't need a sound effect.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Settle in.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Seriously, they got I gotta I keep a jar of
peanuts and pecans and almonds.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
And is it fair to say you love nuts?
Speaker 2 (44:07):
That's them in the car. Haven't even opened.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Whoa Okay, big question of the day, Devon Valley. How
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