8-25-25 Hour 3: Broncos-Saints thoughts/Lets Football Go

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
The Question of the Day evaluate the Broncos preseason in
total and the Bonis in particular. After the final game
on Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I guess takeaway preseason is it more or less looked
like what I expected to look like. We we've got
a great defense. We got we got a really special defense.
We got a chance to do something really unique this
year with this defense, I mean like unique, not just good,
like damn unique. And we got great depth on this
team I have. I was always struggling with the kind

(00:51):
of preseason anointment of Bonnicks and our offense. Uh. And
the offense was very inconsistent throughout the preseason every time
that the starting offense was in there. But they also
did enough good stuff for you to walk away and
be like, Okay, well, we're gonna we're gonna work out
the We're gonna iron out the kinks here in preseason.
Hopefully by the time you get the regular season, you'll
be okay. Uh, defense canna.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Be fine we'll keeping a lot of games. I don't
like Sean Payton's play calling. For the most part of
the preseason, I thought the offense looked first team offense.
I thought looked rather than EMI in the In the
two games the sixth series, I think they got total

(01:35):
maybe I thought it looked fairly aneemic. Good that they
in and on a score. But I'm excited because I
I this is Shawn's team. This is where he wants
to go. I think there's a synergy between he and
the general manager and ownership. I like everything that's surround him.
Jeff Legwell talk talked about it in that article. But

(01:55):
I'm not jumped into saying, oh, we're gonna kill everybody,
because I just listen, great to have a great defense.
So you hold team's seventeen. But what happens if you
know score sixteen, Well, you get a better hope you
got a good punter, Yeah, because you got to play
the field position battle, which I'm being serious, Like when
we've talked about our punter this year, it's not like
something you totally dismiss because if we don't have great

(02:18):
field position this year, that could be a bit of
an issue.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Oh you know, you got to take it seriously. I
don't mean to dismiss it. I'm just saying that's first
fall problems when your biggest issue is like we got
the right punter. But no, of course, it's something that
you got to be I mean, hey, they were serious
enough to draft a guy. That's what they think about it,
and you know you go from there. I don't know
what they're gonna do, and then they're gonna give this
guy a shot.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
By the way, in the years the era that we're
in of high priced wide outs, corners, quarters, edge rushers,
I mean it's I mean those four positions in particular
make it dough ray me right. Isn't it scary to
go cheap on your special teams punter and kicker?

Speaker 5 (03:01):
It can?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Generally speaking, I'm gonna say no, like like, like, what
is cheap? I don't, I don't. I don't know. Like
we we did offer Riley Dixon a contract.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
He got out, we got out bed. They did lose
him because of money. Is that cheap?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean it might be a little bit, But.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I guess to Scott's point, though, to lose a punter
that you really like, and I have no idea what
Riley Dixon is making. Let's call it five million dollars,
but let's call it five million bucks. So in your head,
you're like, we don't want to pay a punter five
million bucks. But in the big picture of your entire
salary cap on a football team, what is five million bucks?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You know, it's a fair point. He goes to Tampa
for a two year, six million dollar contract. I mean
it's a three year I mean it's not that probably.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
An experienced guy for nine ore one thousand, right, So
you're saving two million bucks. Yeah, yeah, I don't even
know if it's a saving and there. I mean, I
don't think that was an ownership saying oh no, we
can't do that. I mean it might be. I just
think I just think, listen, you know, you don't want
to be six weeks six in, week seven in and going, dude,

(04:11):
we gotta change the punter, we gotta get.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Some of the inner beat.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, they had a negotiation. They drew a line in
the sand, and the Tampa Bay Bucks across that line,
and the Broncos probably were just like, okay, I mean
that's it. I bet it wasn't being cheap at all.
I bet it's just like, oh, you know, we're gonna
here's what we're gonna do. And that's that.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
So listen, we don't played the game. So this cross
Shaw could be end up being great.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
He could we have this conversation in ten years.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Who was the guy that the San Diego had forever?
That was an Australian Leagues football guy came over It
was like an unbelievable punter for a decade.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I think I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I forget his name. I know who you think?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
The Tomlinson ere. Whn't he the guy when he.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I forget his name, but I know who you're talking.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
But he was from Australia, wasn't he?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
He was?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It was a great punter, was all Pro every year.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Listen, man to Tyler's pointer earlier. Who couldn't figure out
how to punt in Denver? I mean, it's got to
be one of the easier it's got to be the
easiest place the road to true. But the problem this
guy has is just placing the punts, like controlling his punts,
like having some It's not about just having a big leg,

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which apparently he has. And are we really going that
deep on the punter is I think we've hit the
back so on this move on. Yeah, yeah, it's it's good.
Hot bo do. Finally, eventually, how did bow do?

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Fine? That that's about how I described I would described
the entire training camp as fine, including the last preseason game.
It was fine. It ended on a good note, which
was nice. You said you're gonna play your guys eight
to ten snaps. You ended up giving another series because
you're like, no, we ain't going out like that, and
you were fortunate to have that final drive and on

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a good note, you had a forty three yard past Corla.
I think it was a seventeen yarder on the touchdown
give or take, and Bubble goes four for four in
the final drive. That was good. But combine it all
and it's kind of like, it's fine. There's been nothing
spectacular the entire preseason, and then there's also been nothing
that's been really really bad. It's been fine.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
And again, the best road that he's made in preseason,
I think practice or game was that roll to the
left crossbody passed on a big third down. That was
a long third down. Wasn't it that the court of
the sudden picks up twenty three. I think it was
on that one. Yep, that was his best throw of
the And let me I'll just say this, you can
make that throw. You can make almost any throw. That's

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that was a good sign.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I was happy they had a good moment to walk
off the court. On the field, it's like hitting that
three pointer, like as you you know, it helps. Yeah, man, like,
who leaves a basketball court without hitting their last shot?
I've you know, is it possible to even do that?

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, I don't know how many times you've seen in
basketball where teams just playing like ass, playing like gass,
playing like gas, then all of a sudden, you hit
a big three or something late. And also they came
out on the third quarter it's like a different team.
You're like, of course, maybe that shot woke them up.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And the truth of the matter is, and I see
it on social media all the time for every Broncos game.
It is crazy how often on social media a team's
performance is judged by the first couple of drives in
the first quarter. I mean, it's insane. Let the game
go a little bit, let's see what happens here. And yeah,
it was disappointing. They went three and out on the
first series, But so what you know, you have an

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entire game to sort of flesh it out. Bo had
six series, you know most of them. Was it four
out of six or three out of six he got
scores on you know, I think.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
It don't know, well what six he had a touchdown?
All right? Man?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Or is the glass half full or half empty? What
are we doing?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Is it mostly sunny? You're mostly cloudy?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, I don't know. You're you're the biggest bo Nick
super fan in this group, so you ran.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I think it was just fine, man. I think if
it was six drives, you know, they're scoring on half
of the drives. In a real game, he gets another
four drives, probably ten drives in a game if he
just goes fifty percent of those other drives. If we're
playing this game, Bo put up the equivalent of, like,
I don't know, twenty seven to thirty points.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Well, but he put up thirteen in the six drives
he did play.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
All right, Well, you give him another four and then
you know we got a couple of more touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
But I mean to the banks point, I mean, if
he doesn't we hold on to d Bax point though,
I mean the entirety of what he played was probably
about the equivalent of a half of football, and he
put up thirteen in the first half, the twenty six
twenty seven by the time it's all said and.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Done, of course, twenty six points enough for this team
to win eleven games.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yes it is. Yes, yes, you scored twenty ten points
with this defense. You might you might win more than
eleven games.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
What do you think this defense is going to allow
for a game next year or this year?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, we looked it up and I already forget it.
But what what were they last year? Is like seventeen
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
That is less than that.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
It was really really good.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I bet they're fifteen points or less.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
If you can average eighteen points or less, you are balling.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why they wouldn't. This defense
is stacked. Yeah, they'll they'll give up an occasional flute
play for a touchdown here and there. I mean, that's
gonna happen. But you know what you didn't see in preseason.
You didn't see that repeatedly happen, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well, what they also have been good at is, you know,
the first possession they got, they had a good return
right or the ball after the end zone or whatever
it was. The Okay, they had short field on their
first two possessions.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think, yeah, they could a bunch of field goals.
They got what one touchdown, one touchdown and a bunch
of field goals.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
My biggest concern for this offense right now is not Boonex,
despite the fact that I just told you that he
was fine. That's about the best compliment I could give
him for the preseason. Was it great, wasn't bad? It
was fine? It was acceptable? All right?

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Let me acceptable to see if this concerned any concerns
between you two with Evan Ingram.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I was about to give you. My biggest concern is
that in there No. Zero uh dropped the ball. Not
worried about Evan Ingram at all. My biggest concern is
the running game right we we we've got We've got
what is supposed to be a really good offensive line.
But I'll tell you this, I think it's it's hard
to really judge the running game right now because we
have not seen our started running back in there with

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our starting offensive line in a game situation.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
We don't know Dobbins right now, who knows. We don't. Listen, man,
I don't know. You got two weeks to figure it out.
You got two opponents that you should take care of.
It's like a it's a real NFL game, so it's
not preseason, but I cannot think of a better start
for the team to have.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
You're you're not.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's not murderers Road to start this season. Guys, come on, now,
that starts a week four. Well that the Chargers ain't
gonna be that's no joke right there. But yeah, Cincinnati
home and Philadelphia. Sure, I mean that's a that's a
you need to be two and oh, because that three
game stretch is gonna be tough, Ain't no doubt about it.
It's gonna be a lot of fun. And then from

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there you go take on the Jets in London and
we'll see how that goes before the Reunion game on
the nineteenth. So I love the beginning of the season
for the Broncos. I think it's a lot of fun.
And they don't have a bye week until the twelfth
week of the NFL season, So you got a load
of it, dude. We're gonna have an awesome season here.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
It is set up really really good. Well, what are
your other concerns? What are your other what else is
besides the running game?

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I mean that's my biggest concern. Yeah, is your concern?

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Bo?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Is that your biggest concern?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I'm I'm concerned with the I haven't seen any dynamic
play calling.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Okay, so you're concerned.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I'm being hold on Scott on that one. Also, you're
watching preseason football. We're not putting dynamic out I get you. Well,
we're not. We're not doing dynamic screenplay.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
By the way, the one interception that they had that
in that game Sunday was on a screen.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
It was that was a messed up play.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
E longer. That was.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
That was a botch play from top to bottom. It
was a bad but but chizzle happens, you know. I Mean,
that's it. That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
But are we going to be a screen teams that
were well, Seawan does love screens. But honestly, my thought
on that, Scott, the fact that we had in back
to back drives in the lower red zone that we
had back to back running back screens. My thought on
that we're just trying to put stuff on film that
we're going to make them think we're trying to do that.
We're really not good.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Okay, Well, yeah, so, like I said, I said this
last week, and I'll say nothing matters.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Until until but Shawn does love screens. Nothing matters still
Tennessee all this is just.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay a wazari k.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
I don't know that that could go either way. I think, okay,
Matt again, do you keep well?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
You kept him after his suspension, I gotcha, but he's
the numbers are not on his side right now. They
could be, they could not.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I would try to see if I can get him
on the practice squad. Matthis play pretty good last Sunday
or Saturday.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Right, I'm gonna say he's probably.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Kept again, another guy they may hope to get back
on the practice squad.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I agree. I think they might be trying to trade
him too.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I think your secondary is Patzertan, Riley Moss, Chris Abrams, drain,
Ja Kwan McMillan, Yes, and Jeddi Bart and I and
I think that's probably it.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, Cliss has him keeping five safeties. By the way,
he's got him keeping Locke and Skinner to go along
with how's my math there with uh?

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I should probably add one of those two in I
doubt if if they keep both those, but I probably
should add one of those.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Two in Matthis seems to be a little bit on
the outside right now. That's it, man, that's the drama
that we got, so we'll see how it all plays out. Meanwhile,
the big drama around the rest of the NFL concerns
our guys to Derris Sanders, that's coming up, but let's
football go with Dan Tanner coming up next. We'll see
how you do sticking with that hot take.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, I hopefully don't lose, David.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, I got you. I took a bunch of crap
over the weekend, rightfully, so you dud. Yeah, I'll tell
you about it later. Mountin High Appliance, Thank you, Mountain
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Speaker 6 (14:30):
Everybody is excited about the Broncos defense, and rightfully so.
But Dan Orlowski loves the Broncos h not only for
just their defense. He's got another reason as to why
he thinks so highly of this Broncos team.

Speaker 7 (14:44):
I'm super super super high on Denver, but not only
or just because of their defense from a football perspective.
I tell you the only team that I think in
that conference is better when you take both offensive and
defensive lines. I don't think anybody in that conference. Wow,

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maybe Baltimore, but when he comes to like how good
is your offensive how good is your defensive line, they're
if as good, if not better than everybody.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
So Dana Orlowski thinks the Broncos not only have the
best offensive line in the AFC, but also the best
defensive line in the AFC.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Do you guys agree with his assessment.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, that's how it proved out over preseason, for whatever
it's worth. But sure, I.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Guess I would disagree that the offensive line has looked
as good as they're built. I think they're a good
group and I'm not panicked about this offensive line at all.
Even Mike mcglenchee, who gets a lot of hate. Listen,
he's a dude that's gonna have two or three bad
plays per game. You're gonna look at it, you're gonna
think the dude sucks, But if you really watch every play,
you're gonna realize it kind of dominates the majority of

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the game. So I like our offensive line. It's a
very respectable group. Do they look like a top five
unit right now. Now, No, and part of that is
because the running game has looked soe anemic. And I
will hold out total judgment until we've got our starting
running back going with these guys, I I like their

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defensive line a lot, and I think they're almost underappreciated
from the national perspective because they always talk about certain
and how good this def And I even go back
to No Fly Zone, which I watched a great video
this weekend on the nine No Fly Zone, but it's
amazing all these pick sixes and all these things to

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Leave and Harris were doing. It's amazing how much to
rest the quarterback is stolen the football under yep. And
I think that's what this d line does. I think
they are underappreciated nationally, whereas I think the offensive line
is overstated national. Well, the defensive line is ridiculous. I mean,
if Nick Benito is as good as he's built to be,
Jonathan Cooper's just rock solid, you got freaking Zach Allen,

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you got Jonathan Franklin. My I mean even even your
backup Sabon Jones looked ridiculous in that game. Jones on
the down the middle, like they're They're stacked on the
D line.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
That's crazy. It's hey man, the hype on the Broncos
is gonna be real, real, real. Next up in.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
All right, let's get back into shod Sanders here.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
We heard him when we heard him earlier, talk about
if you would have done anything different. He was taken
out of the two minute drive in favor of Tyler Huntley.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
But let's hear from Joe Flacco.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
He was asked after the game about the growing pains
that Shudor is going through, and he remembers the growing
pains he went through as a rookie.

Speaker 8 (17:42):
Dude, I remember, yeah, big time. I can remember, just
like yesterday. I mean, that's part of being a rookie.
You know you're gonna get thrown into situations that you know,
maybe you don't think are ideal. I got thrown into
a game against New England with two minutes left. I
fumbled on the one yard line. They scored two plays later.
And that was John Harball's first priest game, and he
was not happy.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I mean I wasn't.

Speaker 8 (18:02):
Happy either, but like, hey, like it's part of the game,
but part it's part of what makes a football player
is learning how to deal with those situations and and
learn from them. So yeah, listen, we've all been there.
It's part of the game.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
So a couple of questions here, do you guys think
Schudor got a fair shake in the preseason throughout the process,
And what do you think about the Browns considering or
likely to keep four quarterbacks on their fifty three man roster.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, I personally think that there was no sabotage job.
I mean zero sabotage job. He got the typical opportunities
allotted for a fifth round quarterback, and I could even
make an argument that he got way more than the
normal fifth round opportunities allotted to him. Now would he
would he have gotten that much time if it weren't
for injuries in front of him? Probably not. But that's

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what you need sometimes as a late round guy. That's
what I needed. I needed an injury in front of me.
I think that, like it comes down to semantics. Would
we debate was he set up to fail? Well most
fifth through seventh rounders undrafted guys, Yeah, we are set
up to fail. You've got very few cracks at it.
You're going up against dudes that are good. He's playing

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with an offensive line that is bad, but it's no
different than Sam Allinger's situation where he had to go
in there with the third string offensive line. You got
to make it work with the situation that's in front
of you.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I think Kevin Stefanski was bailed out because Tyler's absolutely right.
He got as much or more than any fifth rowd
quarterbacks ever gotten in a preseason game. I mean, how
many fifth rounders have you see even start a preseason game, right?
I mean, that's that's rare, even if it's because of
injury and also holding out your starting quarterback. But that

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being said, I think it was a perfect bailout opportunity
for Stefanski because if you're gonna use the excuse, well,
I want to give Huddley. He's been a good soldier
and I want to just give you one more buy
of the apple. Then play him the entire second half.
I don't think it was that surprised you with the
fifth round pick. Why not let this veteran guy schieving play,
So don't don't use as an excuse to take him

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out for the last drive. If in fact, if that's
the reason, play him in the second half.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I don't think they are out to sabotage. I just
think they're a dumb organization. Paying Deshaun Watson with guaranteed money.
What they did was dumb. Drafting a quarterback in the
third round and the fifth round, not in the first
round is a dumb the the owner coming out and saying, shure,

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that wasn't on me. That's a dumb thing to do.
And I do think again, it's dumb to spend a
fifth round pick on s he's playing and playing poorly
and you have a chance at the end of the
game to sort of see, well, can he figure it
out with this sort of thing, which is kind of
a t bow type of thing, And to not see
that when you have an opportunity to cut the guy

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the next day, that you give that opportunity, it's sabotage.
They're dumb, that they're a dumb organization, and they'd have
no idea what they're doing really at the quarterback position.
And I would guess, if I'm having a hot take,
they'll be one of the top teams next year in
the running for Arch Manning or you know, any of
the other top quarterback.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
They'll still have a quarterback with fifty million dollars on
the bank account.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Guys, any quarterback competition is inherently dumb going into training
camp having it with multiple guys. If you do it's
as stupid as it cats.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Now, you weren't gonna do it number two, but you
could drop down two or three times, going or picks whatever, whatever,
And say you drop down to twenty, you've pulled up
a couple seconds the first round for next year or
whatever whatever, and you draft Gabriel at twenty three twenty
five low first round, but you but you, but you're
still drafting first round.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, is Flaka on this team?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, Flacca is probably on this team because he's the
perfect even though he doesn't want to be a mentor,
but he is the perfect vet mentor can play the
league if you need to. Right now, Joe Fleck, did
you see Joe Flacco play at all? He looked great,
you know, he looked calm, still has a big arm,
knows the NFL. You know what I'm saying. Like it's

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Joe Flacco, Like he's he's really melded very very well
into that particular mold. I think any team, frankly would
be lucky to have Joe Flacco as a backup mentor
type of quarterback.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Why did he work here?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Because he was a starter and he was the future
because John Alway said he was in his prime. It
was a ridiculous situation.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
It was stupid.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
And Joe Flacco gave the greatest last press conference ever
by saying, we're not going forward on fourth down? What
are we doing here? We're like three and seven or
whatever they were. It was fantastic. It didn't work out
here because again the Broncos were very dumb when he
came to quarterbacks for a significant chunk of John Elway
as a GM, and who was even the coach vic

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with Flacco, I don't even remember.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I don't know I blend all those together at this point.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
It was a mess. That's why it didn't work. And
he was the he was god. You know, you won
a super Bowl with Lway. You also had some really
weird decisions and bad moments with Lway as a GM too.
You had both. You had both.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Next story, Dan, guys, we got college football, local college football.
This Friday. It's see you Georgia Tech at fulsome field.
I saw this clip today and I wanted to play
this for you.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
So this is a defensive back from Georgia Tech, and
he was asked about the matchup with the Buffs.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
He takes a shot here at how Dion's running things
in Boulder.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Any thoughts on playing in the elevation or facing this crowd,
or just in general going out to Colorado.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
Everybody says it's a different experience, but I've experienced some
crazy stadium since being here, so just knowing that, not
trying to over hype it, honestly, Like I said, another game,
I know they bring out celebrities, they do audio crazy stuff,
but it's been playing football and then none of them
playing they can hype up. I didn't want to, but
you want to feel, not them exactly, like come on,

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but yeah, just playing fast, like not dwelling on that
type of stuff.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
That's all I can say.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Then address a big, big pony in the room from
somebody who's playing a practice at sea level coming up
to five thousand feet here, Yeah, you'll get to see
that big old gorilla jumping.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean, I don't have any beef with what he's saying. Look,
if I'm on the other team, I'm gonna say something
very similar and I'm probably gonna take shots about that.
I don't know if it takes shots, but I'm not
gonna act like I'm scared of it. Something tells me
we're gonna have far fewer celebrities this year.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I was just gonna ask that.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you guys think what Travis
and or Gone? Do you think that dissipates it all?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I mean I I do think that Dion's got a
network of people that are just very loyal to him,
and they will they will show up to do him
a favorite twelve Owens guys like that chat interesting, like
these guys are just loyal to him. Yeah, and they
will show up if Dion asks him to show up.
But I don't think it's gonna feel like a circus.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, I won't be Bell BIV, Devo be Bell BIV
and Fred and Fred will probably be there, maybe a
little bit lower.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
I bet you there are celebrities on this one because
it's a Friday night national television game and.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
All three of your first four games are nationally televised.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna bank and there will be
some seed lebs in the house on Friday.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's still prime still Dion Sanders. It's still a cool guy.
He's got a lot of famous friends. It's a cool
game man. And the weather, by the way, this this
whole week is supposed to be a little dodgy. No,
Friday is supposed to be nice, like a little cooler,
and there's not supposed to be rain, even though we're
on and off with rain this entire week. So no,
it should be an incredible atmosphere up there for Georgia
Tech should be awesome. Six o'clock start, nice start time too,

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don't you think, like not too late?

Speaker 4 (25:53):
And well it's better than ten o'clock or nine o'clock
or whatever that.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I will tell you though, good luck on that track.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Holy cat, that's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
That's gonna be a late arriving crowd for a six
o'clock game.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Hey, that's a brutal one, you know, getting through Denver
and the whole thing up there.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
And let's take Friday afternoon. I start telling game about.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I would I'd get there as early as you can.
You know you're going you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I think I'm gonna. I usually skip the night games.
I know you're saying, you like the time. Night games
are tough dude. So I'll go to a handful for sure,
but I usually skip the nights.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
All right, all right, I feel you.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I'm getting old, man, I like like like going to
the night game getting home between this morning, or I
can just watch it for my couch. Yeah, that seems
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I got you.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
I feel you, cold can of Celsius in the fridge waiting.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
There you go? All right? You going?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
You're my wife and I were talking about like what
games do we really want to go to this year?
And I don't know, probably not. We got parents weekend
which is against the Wyoming that's coming up, and then ASU,
which will definitely go to with will be a family
divided that weekend. So to two games, you know, I

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don't know. I don't know what else is on the
schedule there. That's all that interesting. I think it's a
great game to go to, though, I mean it's going
to be a hell of a game. It's one of
the better games on the schedule. Then you got your
other home games Delaware, that's like, who cares? I mean
you should. Okay that's not Fox huh wow? Okay, Oh for.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Your first five I thought it was three of your
first four. But for your first five games nationally televised.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
The BYU game, that's a that is brutal. Eight to fifteen. Yep,
we're kicking off at eight fifteen.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yep. You will not see me at that.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
It's probably eight thirty kickoff.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well, look at the Houston game.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Well that's at Houston there.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, Well that's five thirty start here.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
That's probably our start. Rather say they ain't a four
to thirty start, is it. I don't know, man, that's
probably thirty.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
So they're all Saturdays, Tyler. All of them are Saturdays,
except for the Houston game on the road, oh the
home opener. The rest are all Saturdays. Okay, I like that.
That's a good thing. You know what, this the OPRAH
against Georgia Tech's gonna be one of the better games. Actually,
when you look at the schedule, what are they going

(28:17):
to be around that Arizona State game November twenty second,
what do you think the bus are going to be?
Will that be a battle for the Big twelve championship
right there?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
That'd be fun. Huh Hey, if we're competing for a
Big twelve championship this year, that will be very successful.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
How big would that game.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Be that's that's not my expectation. Though, to be clear,
just give me the Bowl game, man, I mean year
one without your with your big guns, without Dr Sanders,
without four dudes at the wide receiver room that are
now played in the NFL. Just give me back to
bowl game and I'll call that pretty good. Year one
without your studs.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Shiloh Sanders got cut by the Bucks. Where does see
next emerge?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Well, I think Shiloh Is is probably good enough to
bounce around for a couple of years between training camps,
practice squads, whatever. I don't think this is the end
of the road of his NFL career, but you know
it's gonna take a miracle for him to end up
on a fifty three man roster somewhere.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Does Sedur Sanders start a football game in the NFL
this year?

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
What are those circumstances?

Speaker 3 (29:25):
By week seven? Well, I think it's pretty clear by
now that he is behind Dyan Gabriel, Right, so Dyan
Gabriel is, well, he Pickett on the I don't know where, Like, like,
who's the true backup quarterback?

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Is it Candy pickett Is gets hurt or fo sucks?
Why would you go to Kitty Pickett if you've got
two draft picks that you want to see.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
So you've got four really tough games to start the season.
Cleveland started the year as brutal. Say, you start out
zero to four, what the hell would be the point
of going to Kittye.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Pickett two or two and four. If you're two and
four for six weeks going in week seven.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I'm just saying he's got to jump a bunch of dudes,
that's all. I mean, they gotta suck, which absolutely could happen.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
But eventually the owner said, look, if you're two and
six or two and seven and the season's done, if
you're the owner, you're going to listen. The only thing
that can boost some of our ticket sales and get
people excited again put Shader in.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Look, the reality is Shoulder is probably looking at a
redshirt year, and he's probably not gonna dress for any
games unless it less the just perfect opportunity falls in
his lap, right, I mean, it's gonna take a handful
of perfect things to get him on the field.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Does su have any trade value?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, so when you ask that question, I think the
first thing you got to ask is if you cut him,
does he get picked up off waivers. I do think
he gets picked up off waivers. I don't think that
means he has trade value, though. I think I think
a lot of times those two can go hand in hand,
especially when you're get at the back end of the
roster number fifty two fifty three. Teams are like, well,

(31:03):
we don't want to risk the waiver wire, so we'd
rather trade for the guy. There's still enough around Shador
Sanders that I'm not sure team's willing to trade for
him outside of there being some insane performance that present press.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Don't give up, that goes in front of it, never
give up.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
What can you say the word I was trying to say, precedent, Yeah, no,
precedes it, precedes it? Yeah, nailed it, got it? Yeah,
that was the word.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Heroes come in all sorts of shapes.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yep, all right, Well you might be out to dry
you weren't there helping me.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm not tackling that word, trust me, No, I'm not.
I'm not Nate Krekman. By the way, watching you and
Nate Krekman is as smooth as that dude is something.
Oh my god, is he good? I I actually cannot
believe when I watched some of these other play by plays,
guy out, I cannot believe Nate Krekman is not one

(31:57):
of those guys. Seriously, he's that good.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Would so uh.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Props to you guys.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Great broadcast Cowboys depth chart, Dak Prescott, Joe Milton the
Third and Will Greer. Why why wouldn't if you cut
Shad Sanders Jerry Joe said, hey, let's bring him in
at least.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Our third Scott, why isn't he just on the Raiders period?
Right now? I don't even know why the Raiders don't
probably make a trade for chadur But okay, so who
is that? Can you get James Winston? Maybe maybe you can,
But I don't want to bring up the three Amigos
there in New York? How they roll the three amigos?

(32:38):
They got four quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
They only got three listens. Who's that they got? Geno
Aiden and Kim Miller. Well, no, we were talking giants.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Well the Giants, but Aiden's out, Aidan's done, so they
you know, they got to figure out something there.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah. Pete Carroll already came out and said, we're we
were searching everywhere for an experienced backup court.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Okay, Jamis.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I don't know. I mean, I don't go through the list.
I don't have the right guy in front of me.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I guess Jamis would sort of make sense. What are
you doing there in New York? How committed are you
to the young guys? My guy got cut today.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Tommy Devino's got some experience.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Tommy DeVito's did that he does, but that's he's got
the same experiences like Sam Ellinger, Andy.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Dalton with the with the Panthers. He'd be on that list. Okay, uh,
Jacoby Brissette. I guess we should.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Think of what are other Pete Carroll quarterbacks in the past,
Like who else is he connected to? Is Drew Locke
on the team right now?

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Settle?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
He is on Seattle? Okay?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Two weeks?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Thank god I got them. I'm so glad the preseason's over, guys, seriously,
and the cuts for the Broncos are going to be
relatively benign. And the drama really around the NFL is
storylines like.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
This is Kirk Cousins playing for the Falcons. I guess, oh,
that'd be a good guy to bring a for the Raiders.
I doubt they'd bought that kind of drama.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Wouldn't they have to pick up all that money too.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
If they traded for him or or is it part
of the trade you just make a man to take
the entire salary?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Know, it was interesting in Jeff Legwall's article. It was
a really good article. We know what we've talked about it.
But the fact that the Broncos were willing to bite
the bullet on Russell Wilson's contract just to move on
from Russell Wilson is a huge turning point moment that
not many teams would have done, but the Broncos did,
and they're they're better off for it. Sometimes you just

(34:38):
got to eat it whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Did they play Kirk Cousins in the preseason at all?

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I have no idea Eastern.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Stick is their third quarterback?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Did you see Michael Pennix did go after a fan
who called them not Pennis? How much is that guy not?
If I really have to say it, oh calling Michael right?
I know, but I just.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Tennis.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Well, there you go, thank you, Tyler. How many times
do you think of that guy's life? He's had a
deal with you, has been so afraid today, I know,
scaredy cat.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
No, why would you ever get yelled exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I did get yelled at a bunch this weekend. I
did about something else. Now it's something, it's a sports really,
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
It is next.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Hey, ho, let's go all right, I'll tell you what
I got yelled at a little bit for and and
and you want, you can yell at me if you
want to about this my bosses. No, no, no, no, just
just on the social media stuff.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Oh you're talking about fans yelled at you?

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Oh yeah, call that Tuesday, yeah, right, or Monday.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
It didn't look great for your boy d Mac with
the Rockies giving up eighteen runs and score and one
over the weekend against Yeah, thanks Dan.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
I don't even know what to say.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, I know, I got you.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Well, they're playing for some.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's it sucks.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
You've just been on a freaking heater on this thing
that is a little bit mentally and physically exhausting that.
I don't even know what to say other than what
other other than what did you really expect? Well? They did,
they go to it. But hey, everything is awesome. And
let's make sure that we give war and Shaffer a contract.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Hey, you win, you win?

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Are you going back to that note?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
That's where we are today.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
To too with the Dodgers, and then they have the
Giants or the who they have Nicks Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well they they stunk it up against Pittsburgh. And listen,
Skeen's pitch great yesterday. And it was a weird game
we had the Rockies have had seventeen guys make their
major league debut with the Rockies this year.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
How about that. That's kind of that's MLB wreck. Honestly,
I mean, I hate to sound like you, but they should.
I should have that bound. I mean, I don't know
what normal is, but it should be on the high end.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
And yesterday was a new one. This guy mckaid brown
who's six foot six, two thirty like, he is huge.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Broncos could use him.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
He and he just he pitched okay, and then in
the fourth inning he gave up three run homer and
kind of fell apart and they took him out. But
the relief pitching for the Rockies just good. They only
gave up the whole game one half of an inning.
There were a run scored, that's it. Bottom of the fourth.
That was it for either team the whole game, and
they were on the roku channel. So here's a team
that's impossible to find or hard to find period and

(37:27):
they're on something called the Roku channel, which I have
as a streaming service. But you know, you want to
talk about a game that like did not exist in
the realm of anybody watching.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
That's Dick Muffort's fault.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Well, you're thrown up, Charlie Condon highlights. Yeah, we'll probably
see him soon, but I'll tell you this. They got
schooled by the Pirates.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Terrible.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
They didn't show much fight, starting, pitching was terrible. Overall,
was really bad sense of the series. They lost the
series that got swept. They were outscored eighteen to one.
And your boy here, who's you know. I can't defend him.
I cannot them. They lost four in a row. They
had played seventeen games in seventeen days. They have today off,
and they started a three game set against Houston before

(38:08):
hosting the Cubs this weekend.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
We gotta go. We gotta get to that eight again
for Tyler.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Absolutely, we're halfway there.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I want them to get to nine.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well, okay, they got They gotta win five more than
thirty one games, guys, to get to the magical forty two.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Oh yeah, win five games in thirty one, then this
whole place needs to be torched.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, it was pointed out that they've they've never done
that bad in the history of the team ever.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Well, dud, you're flirting with have never done that in
the history of baseball record, right, So I mean that
that that's a does statement.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
So old old enough to remember last week with the
Rockies had it figured it out. I know old enough
to remember last week that hey, they figured it out.
I've said in here screaming about Fool's gold and Oasis
and whatever else I can barrage. I mean, good lord,
like what what, what what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah? Hey, fine, I can't defend it. So, yeah, they sucks.
They were terrible. It was awful period the end. Not
not playoff caliber, not even close, totally bad forget it.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
So Schaeffer, Well, it was a hot weekend.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
This team. I've never seen a team like so satisfied
with good performance and sit on their heels more. I mean,
it's it's not the sign of a good team. So,
but everybody's like, yeah, yeah, I told you so, and
we don't. I got it. I got it. So that's it.

Speaker 10 (39:40):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I probably won't have to do the walk because they'll
probably scrape out another five games. But at the end
of the day, how many left thirty one?

Speaker 3 (39:51):
So five to save your six to save you You
would think they could find five wins in thirty one games.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, like I said, they've never like a five and
twenty six record would literally be the worst thirty one
game stretch in the history of the team. They've never
been that bad.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
You know, what are don't you go dying on me?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Like cow, are you all right?

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I'm shutting up the greatest radio bit in the history
of us. All right, they need to go four and
twenty six and then and then game for the last.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Six is you break the record?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
That'd be something else.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
What's sixty two?

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Then we you know, we bringing holiday, you know, and
all those other extra big games.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
And we bring champagne for him and everything.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
That would be something that like have a live watch
along that game watch along.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, that would be the best thing ever. Honestly, Scott,
you aren't wrong. If we can actually get to the
point that the last game of the season decided it,
that would be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
You know, I'd be hysterical is. If we did that,
I'm all for it. We were to watch the game
here and if I if they lost, I just start walking.
It'd be late at night because it's in San Francisco. Oh,
actually it might be a day game, the last game
of the year. It might be an afternoon game or something.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, but it is afternoon.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, I don't know, Dan, you can look at the
computer like the I know it's a three game set
in San Francisco.

Speaker 10 (41:16):
I'd be a hell of a moment, man, if they're
right there, if they only won four yeah, we have
we have either we get the walk ready. Do you
have you calculated how many hours that would be?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
It's eighteen miles. What do you walk four miles an
hour or something like that, so you know, if you're lucky. Yeah,
So it's a one o five game on So look
at that one oh five. Look at that. Oh on Sunday,
what's the date.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
September twenty eighth.

Speaker 11 (41:43):
The time the Broncos play exactly, Hold on, Hold on
twenty eighth.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Oh, they don't play. That's a Monday night.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
That's a Monday night game.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
We play the Bengals the following night.

Speaker 11 (41:54):
There you go, Oh, that would actually be epic and
you come walking in to a barred downtown by by
coors Field, that we do a remote on that Monday,
right in time for the show.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Oh you want me to you want me to start
on the Monday?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
No, you start right after the loss?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, well it's not gonna take me twenty four hours.
I mean it's not gonna take You think it's gonna
take you twenty hours to walk eighteen miles?

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Well what if the fishers jump back up?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Well that's true, dude. Training for the Boston Marathon with
anal fishers was like, you know, you want to talk
about the brutal It doesn't get worse than that.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
And they needed any extra razor blades.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
All right, enough enough of the stupidness. What's next here
for the Broncos. What's the rest of the week.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Like, we got about twenty four hours that you can
a little bit less than what time is it over
Tomorrow is at two o'clock, So maybe twenty three hours
that you can try to you can continue to try
to trade the back end of your off.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Do you think they make a deal, make a prediction,
so they got to trade done?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I don't think so, because I think they like their
I think they like their squad, right,