8-26-25 Hour 3: Broncos roster taking shape/Lets Football Go

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
What are the biggest surprises, if any, with the Broncos
right now? And if we just go through some of
the highlights of the cuts, Audric Esime mathis, I suppose
I could throw Turner yell in there. They did cut
Caleb Lohner the seventh round.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
A couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh, you could be right. I mean, he certainly played
quite a bit for the Broncos. They have they have
continued to keep three quarterbacks, four running backs. They did
get rid of Adam Prentiss because they're gonna keep well,
they haven't announced anything with Atkins, the guys they're putting
on Ir Drew Sanders and Michael Michael Burton. All right,

(01:03):
help me out what surprises you? What's cut? Your attention here?
And as far as we know right now, they're keeping
three quarterbacks and.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
For Tyler, sorry, the most non dramatic cut day that
we've experience in ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, I was actually just gonna say more or less
the same thing. I mean The storyline is just the
drama free training camp just continues to be drama free.
I mean, if we want to try to manufacture or something,
Bailey getting cut at inside linebacker that caught us all
off guard, Okay, big whoop. I mean a young dude,
undrafted dude that I think is it a second year right,

(01:38):
something like that?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, I mean, so you cut a second or third
year undrafted dude like this is not a real big surprise,
not a huge deal, just.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Just a little indentum to that story. Inside linebacker Kareem Read,
as far as we know right now, was kept, which
is an undrafted guy. Yeah, and we were having a
hard time thinking of undrafted guys that would make the team.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so good good for him. But Scott's right.
I mean, the storyline is just it's the drama free
training camp. It's been a drama for free waiver wire
period here. I'll be fascinated to see if sam Ellinger
really is the long term plan, you know what I mean.
As much as I don't get it, as much as
I don't understand it, I actually do think they're gonna
plan on carrying three quarterbacks. I think that's Shawn's deal.

(02:20):
That's maybe he really values that third quarterback that you
can now dress without it counting against your active roster
on game day. Well, for whatever reason, I think the
Shawn's into it. I think it's stupid. I really do,
because in my opinion, I don't care who your third
backup quarterback is. And Sam's a pretty good backup quarterback
to be number three. Right. Well, but if you get

(02:41):
to that third, dude, pack your backs, go to Expedia
dot com and play your vacation.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Come who has more chance to play your third quarterback
or your fifth or sixth inside lineback.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Fifth or sixth inside linebacker which always play special teams
without a doubt.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, then there's your answer, yes to me, Yes, you know,
especially this year. Like I said, I'm own it. I
wanted him to keep three last year because I just
wasn't sure what bo Nicks can do. Bonnicks proved himself.
You got a starting quarterback in the NFL this preseason.
The Stinkham's been fantastic, So there you go. You don't

(03:14):
need a third quarterback.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, it is that they chose to keep nine offensive linemen,
which is common. You either carried nine or ten. I
think ten. You feel really comfortable. But what's unusual about
the offensive line room right now is that of your
four backups that you kept, three of them are tackles.
That's weird. Usually you only carry two. Yeah, one has

(03:37):
to you said earlier, has to be able to swing
to guard.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, Dan, are you keeping eyes on the other the
rest of the NFL. I know we'll have more and
less football go in about fifteen minutes. But other news
earlier in the day or yesterday, Kenny Pickett was traded
for what a fifth round draft pick to the Raiders. Okay,
Marik Cooper's back with the Raiders, Okay, I should ure
Sander does make the Browns. They're keeping three quarterbacks as

(04:03):
far as everybody can tell.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I saw it with one on the injured list before.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, and I saw a hater out there sad. Oh
you know who it was. It was Tony GROSSI like
the guy that should have had that beef with his.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Uh yeah radio local radio guy.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and his uh his tweet was
Brown's trade Kenny Pickett. I would not be surprised if
they bring back Tyler Huntley to be QB three, which
is what I proposed in my column this morning, that
guy really does have it out for Schadur, doesn't he. He's, uh, Tony,
what are you doing to me?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Why you hate me?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Tony?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's the guy he was talking to me.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yes, yes, it is, so. Tony's definitely, Uh, what I do?
What I do to you? Tony? Tony, Tony's being that guy,
all right, whatever, Well, you know the always one of
them guys out there, So Tony's that guy. All right, Well,
Schinder's on the team, and then the Huntley's not coming back,

(05:08):
and what are you talking about? That ain't happening. They're
just rolling any other surprises out there, anything that caught
you guys attention. In terms of others.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
It feels like.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
In the past and with in the past decade, there
was always two or three veteran, big name veteran guys
that were cut because of money. It seems like there
was less of that this year.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, I'm looking for names out there, fellas, like we'll
get your attention.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Maybe Clyde Edwards, Hilaire he got cut.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Okay, there's a name, you're right.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Hunter redfro he got cut out the Panthers, you know,
not a huge surprise. He had to take some time
off from football because he was dealing with that concussion. No, no,
he was dealing with like irritable bowel syndrome or something
like what yeah, yeah, yeah, he lost like fifty five
pounds with it. That's not good. Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah, sorry, And the Panthers let him go yep, which
is Neck of the Woods, which if you.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Remember his start, that dude was he was like Brock Bowers.
He was fantastic in this first cover years, right the Raiders.
Uh one, I'll give you a name to keep an
eye on. Okay, we made a surprise cut it inside
Blindbacker by letting Bailey go. Uh. There is a dude
that is a former top ten pick that Vance Joseph
has got a lot experience that maybe was a surprise cut.

(06:34):
Isaiah Simmons is now available. So he's a guy that
was around in Arizona with Vance Joseph. I mean, where
is he at in his career right now? I don't know,
but familiarity goes a long ways.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
All right, do you think anybody the Broncos have released
will end up on somebody's fifty three?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Good question? Let me look at this again. Fifty three
fifty three no practice squad.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I think a lot of guys they will be practice
squad guys, but fifty three, like that was what Sean
was the most paranoid about. I'm gonna let somebody go
and they're gonna be a star somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I really don't. I'm looking to this list. Don't you
think some teams are looking that are thin in quarterbacks?
Gonna look at me? Well, I was just gonna say that,
or or delayn Turner yell, yeah, one of those two guys,
because those guys are special teams guys. They do rotate
them in and out a lot.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, I'm just going through some other stuff. Any other here,
Blake Watson's gonna be on an injury settlement short time
or I's turn I R for bern and Sanders. Yeah,
this is as up to date as I can as
we get. Okay, estimate, estimate doesn't land on a team,

(07:58):
I don't think so, man, that is tough.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
What would you say? What'd you say yesterday about Shador?
He got more opportunity than the most fifth right as guest.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Has. He got this money, so I mean, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I'm just saying the guy played a bunch. That's all.
You know. He played in the NFL quite a bit.
It happens running backs. It's rough. It's a rough life
as a running back. Man. Good luck making it more
than three years in the NFL period as a running back.
Everybody thinks of the big name guys, but it is
it is insane how many running backs teams go through.
That's why like keeping four running backs? To me is,

(08:41):
I don't know, man, what's the big deal?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, I'd rather carry four running backs and three quarterbacks?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well yeah, I mean, but I'd rather carry two quarterbacks
and three running backs and keep Frockmorton or whatever your
Lavell Bailey or something.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean guys that can contribute other ways I have.
I really don't know what suns I hope somebody asks
him that today. What what is your love affair with
three quarterbacks on the fifty three? That'd be a good
way to ask it too. Huh. He would love that.
All right, we'll we'll get to more of the NFL.

(09:16):
What's going on with let's football go and a little bit.
Let me turn to see you right now and uh
help me hear Dan? Where is it? This is Prime
announcing what we're doing here at quarterback?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Where is that one right here? No, I don't know
where it is. I don't got it, Dan, I got it?
You got it all right? Here's Prime on their starting quarterback.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
We got two guys are capable of getting the job done.
Ca saut is going to start. You guys knew that.
I don't know why you planned to. You wasn't he
was gonna start. Your kid has a ton of experienced
with threat, you can throw the heck out of the
ball as well. He's he's the guy. He's the guy.

(10:02):
At this point, we were praying and we're hoping that
you see some juju periodically through the game as well.
We would like to get him some reps as well,
but the game predicates dead.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Did we know Kadan Saltz was definitely gonna start?

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I mean it seems why I actually played better?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
So yeah, well, was this like a no brainer? Was
this like?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
So yeah? It's it's Joe Flacco, It's it's it's it's
why you brought him in. You brought him in to
be a one year bridge to get your five star
ready to play football.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
The problem is with then Il and Chancellor portals. You
better make sure he's happy to being a bad.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's why you do have to play him to some
to some degree, you have to play Juju, Lewis it
just the number one you want to do it for
the luxury of getting experience, but number two in today's
day and age, if you don't keep doing happy, they.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Go all right, Well, how what's the best way to
mix them in?

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Then?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
And a perfect world?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
You're winning a lot of football games just garbage time. No,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Think it has to be garbage time, but I mean
games that you're not stressed out, you've got a couple
couple score lead. But I think it's going to be
more than that. I think there's gonna be a game
plan for him. Whether that's every third or fourth series,
you know what, I bet it turns it into about
about a series per half. I bet that's what it looks.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Like, Okay, like consistently, like we'll see him out there.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
As long as as long as he's playing well.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Like Friday Nights first half, we'll see a little Juju
out there. I'd be my guess, all right, we really did.
What else we know about CU nothing?

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Well, what I've been told is their offensive line is
legit this year. Big.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
They are big.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Boys, we know that. So are they going to run
the ball?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well. So you've got two young quarterbacks that are both mobile,
so that helps with the running game a lot. If
you get involved your quarterback in the running game, it
makes it much easier.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Okay, I'm just looking it up to see you favored
or not favored on Friday night? What do you think
I do not know. I'm looking it up right now.
What do you guys think I.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Would say it's a it's within three points either way,
it is not.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Then they're than they're underdogs.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
They are four and a half, four and a half
point dogs at home.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
You get three points for playing at home, so that's
like one and a half.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Okay, starts off with the bang man.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Actually that's like seven.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's six o'clock on Friday night, so it's gonna be fun.
And then the other big news of the day is, uh,
they tried to get another Ralfie ready and it just
didn't work out timing wise, and they're putting Ember Ralphie
what number seven.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Or this will be seven? Yes, the Ember was six
be seven.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
So Ralphie six goes out to pasture.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Some of the names. The other ones were there was good,
there was I had blackout. Blackout was a badass. Yeah,
whate was black eyed peas?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Is that right? I believe so? And the other one
was tasty. Shouldn't they name aim after food? Like, shouldn't
the nicks for Ralphie be named tasty? No? But because
they don't get eating it, should people.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I've talked to a couple of cu people that have
a difference of opinion on eating bison. I've talked to
one person who it's like, it's a tribute because we
love our you know, that's of course.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Oh so we should eat humans.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
And then that's like the other person is like that,
It's like, that's the most ridiculous thing ever. I would
never do it. It's it's like being It's yes, it's
like eating humans. Where do you sit on that?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Are we on air? Off air? We're on air right now? Hell,
I ned I got I'm not a freaking cannibal. Gotcha
got about a quarter of a bison after cannibal? You did?
That's right?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, alphad Packer, that is hysterical. By the way, I
was up there. Yeah, I'm like I'm there and I'm
seeing the Alfred Packer thing and I've never been in
the report. I'm like, they named their cafeteria after a cannibal.
What's that?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
There's a controversy there is.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Did you know that Trey Parker and Matt Stone when
they were at CU did their student film about that,
about Packer and the cannibalism the South Park guys. It
is kind of a twist that you've got your mess hall,
your cafeteria named after a cannibal, allegedly serve a dorm.

(15:00):
He's got a lot of care. Did you see what
was going on there last yesterday too? It was a
jerk hole thing was going on, the fake shooting and
they had a shelter in place. He didn't catch that
story at Norland Hall, at Norland Library rather Norland Norland. Yeah,
that sucks. There's there's pranks going on that they you

(15:22):
call in like a shooting and it triggers everything and
it's it was you know, you get you get alerts
and there's cops and the whole campus was shut down
for a few hours yesterday and it was all prank.
It was all like, well, at least it was a prank. Yes,
thank god, that's for sure. All right, Dan has everything
that you need to know. Let's football go, and yeah,
the Broncos are practicing. But we'll hear from Sean Payton

(15:45):
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Speaker 3 (15:53):
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the NFL. Let's football go, Dan.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah, we'll hear from Dion here in just a second Fellas.
He was asked what does the post buff's world look
like without Travis Hunter and shud Or Sanders. So I
want to get your thoughts on what he had to
say on that. But just some updates here, Fellas from
Mike Cliss. His latest tweet is from fifty minutes ago,
So there's not a whole lot of new news that
we can get to. But the latest is he says,

(16:32):
it looks like the Broncos. We'll keep both Jordan Jackson
and Ioma Juaso Rique, so they're going to carry seven
d linemen. He says it's unusual for teams that run
a three man front, but he said the talent and
depth at that position may be the best on the team.
They also place Drew Sanders inside linebacker on the injured

(16:55):
reserve list, as well as fullback Michael Burton. He'll start
the season on IO as well. And lastly, guys, the
Broncos are expected to carry four running backs.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
JK. Dobbins, RJ.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Harvey Badet and Jalil mcglofflin will be your four running back.
So one quick question I have for you guys. So
Joe Mixon with the Texans will start the season on
IR and Taj Spears running back for the Titans, we'll
also start the season on the IR. Do you, guys
see Audric estimate potentially being picked up by either the

(17:28):
Titans or the Texans, And if not, do you think
he ends up on the Broncos practice squad.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
If I'm Audric gestamay, I don't want any part of
being on the bron in the Denver Broncos at all,
So it's time to move on if I don't land
on a fifty three band roster somewhere, which I guess
if you were putting me on the spot right now,
I don't think anybody's gonna play them. They very well could.
You never know, man, I mean, you had a very
impressive college career. I get offered a deal to come

(18:00):
back to the Broncos practice squad, I am politely decline
in going somewhere else. I know where I stand here.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Maybe a new new surroundings best for him. Yeah, I
think somebody will pick him up, though, I think he'll
be able to think he'll be fifty three. No, I
think on a practice squad. Okay, I think somebody else
would take a chance on it.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I'm seeing that the Broncos still have to make one
more cut there. It's down to one more guy, one
more name.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Are you counting, are guys?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well? I'm somebody just told me that it's one more guy.
So whatever it is, it's one more dude, one more
name should be coming. Okay, So I guess I would
just throw this back on on you guys. There's one
guy left. Where's it gonna come from?

Speaker 7 (18:42):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Jordan Jackson or Sam Ellinger? Okay?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I'd go, say, Mellinger, it would make the most hm hmm. Okay,
would it make more sense to carry four running backs
or three quarterbacks?

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Four running backs? That makes more sense, Yeah, because running
backs get hurt a lot, and it's not the end
of the world if you get down to your third
or fourth running back, whereas it's all over, you get
down to your third QB.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Well, they would have had to put it in by
two o'clock.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Look, I say that, but I really say that in
terms of what I would do, right, I don't think
Sean's gonna cut Saim. Doesn't It kind of feel like
that's his deal now it does. And you know what,
maybe maybe I'm kind of stuck in my era of
football to be fair here, when we didn't have that
third quarterback that was available on game day. Maybe the

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league is evolving. Maybe they do value that third quarterback
simply because you can't dress them on game day and
it doesn't count against your forty seven.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I'll give you a quirky one. That guy we've literally
not talked about at all. But in free agency, the
Broncos sign Sam Franklin Junior, who has like six years
of experience to a one point three million dollar contract. Yeah,
and they cut him. I mean, that's not somebody we've
talked about. It's NFL money. It's low, but that's, you know,

(20:04):
an interesting chunk of change.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I mean he does have an offset in his contract, though,
so when he gets picked up, the Broncos will hardly
owe a dime.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, if he gets picked up, I should.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Say Lavell belly Is.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
We'll see what happens. But there should be one more name,
so we'll see, we'll see where that got.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
To call your shot, I'm calling George Jackson Ellen.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Oh man, I'll say Jalil, jalil, because it doesn't make Listen.
I get you. I think Sean Payne's thing is this
three quarterback thing. So normally I would just say that
out of common sense, I would say the third quarterback.
I would I would agree with you. But now I'm
trying to think like Seawn Allah. I think he loves Beiday.

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I think he really likes Jaliel.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yeah, but okay, let's let's play the the What would
you be more afraid of, right if if Julie mclough
landed on somebody else's fifty three band roster or Tyler Bedey,
which one would you be more afraid of exploding?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Juliel not even close. Yeah, hey, listen, it's a herd
you're asking. I don't know. I'm grasping at straws here.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, because going heavy a d line doesn't seem to
make much sense either. So Wazerika, if he made it
this far, I mean right, so Jordan Jackson, that makes
total sense.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
And if you got Ellinger, what's the fear of him
signing on somebody's.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Fifty Not much, not high, like nothing. He's not going
to be out of fifty three.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
You know why because and it's not a shot at
his ability. He's plenty capable to be a backup quarterback
in the NFL. But the NFL is not overly interested
in a dude in year five to develop as a
backup quarterback.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I actually was surprised they got anything for Kenny Pickett
with the Raiders. You know, I don't know. That doesn't
seem like the vet what's it, Pete Carroll say he
wants some veteran whatever, that's Kenny Pickett. But but the
Pickens are slim. There's not a lot of choices out there.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
By the way, A little bit of Shadur Sanders news here.
Kevin Stefanski is officially named the number two quarterble. Come on,
Gabriel as Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Wow, that's cool, that's cool, breaking news. I would even
do that? Why I would he even bother doing that today?

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Probably just put it all the rest because he doesn't
want to deal with any drama, right right. I think
it's smart.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Actually, but they did keep Shader, they didn't cut him.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
All right.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Let me ask you this, If Shadur Sanders was cut,
was he going to get signed with anybody's fifty three?

Speaker 6 (22:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I think he's a practical guy too. Yes, he would
get picked up, you think so, yep, because it's so
much easier to sell to the owner, to the fan base,
to the head coach, to whoever you got to sell
it to. Hey, we didn't draft shed Door Sanders. We
just picked him up off Waivers, all right.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Next story Dan.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
All right fellas Trey Hendrickson's contract situation is resolved and
his holding is over. He'll get a fourteen million dollar
raise from the Bengals for this upcoming season, boosting his
salary up to thirty from sixteen. His revised deal also
includes one million dollars in incentives that he could collect
if you play sixty percent of the plays and the

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Bengals make the playoffs. He is still scheduled to be
an unrestricted free agent after this season. So here's my
question for you guys. What edge rusher gets his new
deal first? Nick Benito or Micah Parsons?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Hmmm, oh man, Micah, It's gonna be micop.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
By the way, do you guys see he was sleeping
on the sideline during the Cowboys final preseason game.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, on the training table.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
It's hard to stand on them sidelines.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I think it's exhausting, it is.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I think Michael Parson still gets a deal done with
Cowboys before the season even begins.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'll go with Micah too, because it just makes more
common sense. I think they're just being silly there and
and smart. Is Jerry really gonna do what he did
Emmitt Smith and and go a couple of games without
Micah Parsons since.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
It is Charles Haley gonna have to come out of retirement,
come and throw a helm and at it.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
There you go, right there you go.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well, listen beyond all that. I don't know how you
guys feel I don't know where you stand on it.
I actually don't think the Broncos here anywhere close to
a deal with Nick Panito.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I have no idea, I have no inclination of that
one way or another. I can't I can't believe Nick
Beannina is not doing me holden. But whatever, it's his life,
and you know, he's a good dude. And yeah, it
seems to be very quiet on the Western front in
terms of that. It seems like there's nothing going on
good for Nick Beonito. I mean, I guess, way to

(24:53):
go team player, Well, I guess the price of play.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
I mean, if you bank on yourself, come in and play. Yeah,
that could go out thirteen a half sacks next year.
He drops fifteen in the in the books. That went
from being able to game signed to twenty five toy
six twenty seven to thirty two, thirty five, thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, he said it. I'm in the right market. You know,
he's he's right. If he bets on himself and he
doesn't get hurt, he's and he has a great year.
I ainty million guaranteed, about about twenty guaranteed. You know,
it just keeps going from there. So it's you know,
risky though, and Hendricks is interesting because what did he
just sign like a one year deal.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Or like no, no, no, I mean they they literally
just gave more money this year. So it was like
last year they bumped it from six. Alright, So then
next year they'll just he'll be a free agent next year,
Well he'll just tag him, they could.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
And then they could tag him again. I mean, if
they're already paying him top money already, they can hold
onto him for two more years now they ain't. There's
no way that guy would ever do a future contract
with them, right, no way.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
And he's gonna make sixty five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
But if you're paying a guy top five, two, top
three or top three money already, that is, boy, what
a cheap assway to go.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Well dollars would make him the sixth highest paid pass rush.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Okay, so you go from six and they're just gonna
tag you and you go into the top five. That's
not a big deal. That's like you're kind of there already.
That is a cheap assway for an organization, right.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
That's that's Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
That is Cincinnati. You want to talk about why they
are a lowsy place to work for. They're they're showing
you and they can do that for two years. And
that's what Kirk did there with Washington. You know, he
got two years out of it. Yeap, So they really,
Oh man, how'd you It's a lot of money, So
you can't say it's terrible. I mean, you don't feel

(26:45):
bad for a guy making thirty I actually.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Think all things considered, they came to a very healthy compromise. Yeah, hey,
we're gonna we're gonna pay you a lot of money
this year to keep you happy for one year, and
we know that we're gonna have another problem by the
time we get to the end of the season. Yeah,
but they're there's no reason for anybody to be on appy.
I don't think that's actually unfair to tray what they
did right there. They're given thirty million dollars, they gave

(27:07):
an upgrade of fourteen.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well, let me ask you this, do you think that
Jamar Chase and t Higgins one of them will be gone?
Then they'll have to do something with one of those dudes,
because they're certainly not going to get rid of Burrow
and it doesn't feel like they can afford guys, is
this like a little bit of a weird like we'll
only have this team together for one more year?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I don't know. I guess i'd have to look more
into it. I doubt if they're gone next year.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Well, don't you think it's bonkers? How many like it?

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Usually about year three or four that you've gotten out
in the contract?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
How many guys on a team can you pay more
than thirty million dollars to?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Is that kind of wild?

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:42):
For a team that I don't know if they led,
But Joe Burrow's got sacked as many times as anybody
last year, right, and the offensive line was not good.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I don't know much about Cincinnati FI, but on my
guess is they're not a very deep team. I don't
know how they could afford it. So we'll see. Hey, Rubber,
we'll meet the road on Monday night, September twenty ninth
here in Denver. One more Dan, Yeah, let's hear from
coach Prime.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
He was asked today, fellas, what does the post Travis
Hunter Shadoor Sanders Colorado Buffalo's football team look like this year?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I already know what they look like.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
I've been with him for a minute now, so I
know what they look like. I know the expectation of
what they should do, the young men, how they've been preparing,
how they've been practicing against the men that we have.
Some people get baffled because you think this guy is good,
but he's playing against your guy is bad, and then
he ends up going against the lathe and he's not. David,

(28:39):
we understand what we have and we're excited about that.
We don't think we lost. We think we gained. Sure,
there's a couple athletes that were phenomenal, but I think we,
and I've been saying this for quite some while, we
have a better team.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Are you surprised to hear deonce he thinks they have
a better team this year than they did the last
two years with Travis and Shadur?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
What's you gonna say we're gonna be bad.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I'm not surprised that Dion Zanders is saying it's well, aren't.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
You gonna have a more more maybe less experience. Aren't
you gonna have a more active, mobile quarterback than you had?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Oh? Yeah, yeah? And the offensive line is supposed to
be much better. Offensive is big, and I was told the.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Wide receivers are long and big. Also, yep, so they
may not have a Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Let's go man, that sounds awesome. So why are they
four and a half point dogs over Georgia.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Ten because you lost the Heisman Trophy winner and the
starting quarterback that some thought was gonna be the second big.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Of the draft. That was so fun when we thought that,
that was really cool. That was that was a fun period.
By the way, that was that was awesome. We were like, hey,
we're gonna have two top five draft picks, a big,
a big another that was really cool. Feather and Scott's cap.
Oh okay, oh you shows your mock drafts are just stupid.

(30:01):
Uh huh, thank you. You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
What other player did the mox really get wrong?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Did you call your shot on him going to the
fifth round? Yeah, no, I stold, mock drafts are stupid.
They're dumb. Wait till the draft.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
You didn't say Shader Sanders at any moment was going
to drop out of the first round.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Well, you know, we should have been smarter, all of us,
in the sense that when it was second, second, second. Also, well,
there's no way he drops below twenty. But we were
talking about the week for the draft.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
It was the Steelers, whatever number they were at, twenty one, right, Yeah,
they were the pick after the Broncos. Maybe we should
have known something.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I feel like you're trying to bait me with the
mock draft stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
We were sitting there reading all the mock drafts, gonna
go number two and all of a sudden goes the
fifth round.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Hey, I get them.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Man, Well that's because they didn't go to Orange sticky
fingers dot com. Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Biggest, biggest, biggest miss since the twenty sixteen presidential election.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
It was historic what happened in the draft this year.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
But I'm serious, go back and look at those poles.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
All right, we'll hear from Sean Taytan. What's he go
Sayble'll find out next. We're waiting for you see anything
for Shan yet. I'm monitoring. Okay, they don't even have
the video up yet, so it might be going longer. Okay,
I'm not gonna dart Scott.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I think he's singing du but what here you go?
It is a great song.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
It's a great song, you know, and sing along? Turn
out Dan dum.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Bill, you you dude?

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Do you guys know the Sublime is making a new album. Yeah,
but they're the lead singer, the originally singer like Odeed
or something.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, he's dead.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
So they're making a new album twenty twenty five. It's
called Subline No Subend. God, I've been good today. You're
on it. I've been like borderline, a dad dad modern joke.

(32:20):
You're slap happy today.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
You're a little goofy today in a fun way.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Well, you know what. The wardens had to work and
go in.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Their job is usually remote, but they call him once
twice a year. It's like three straight days. So I'm
up at like seven, I'm getting the kid breakfast and
off to school.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
What I did? I did?

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I did the parent thing today. I dropped off at
school and never got out of my pjs.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Oh okay, that had been a great thing to do.
Dance party then, that had been amazing pajamas. But you know,
there's it's a new school though, so different.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
When you're the sixth grader in the you were talking
to you talk, it's all over. I'm film tomorrow because
it's it's Wednesdays.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
I'm just telling you don't do it unless you want
her to hate you.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, now, now, it's hitting you that she's the youngest
in the grade and it'd be too embarrassing for her.
Now now that's dawning on you.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, because I mean, you know they were bmoc's when
you're in fifth grade, right, you're you're kind of bmo.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, you can do it. You can have the embarrassing
dad in fifth grade.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, sixth grade, eighth grade, oh, can't wait.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Eighth grade. I don't even know if your kids talk
to you in eighth grade, who knows.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
So, I mean you got the history of that.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
And then by the time they turned like a sophomore,
you know, it's like, really it's a down world. The
best might be fifth grade, fifth grade maybe, like like
like that might be the pinnacle right there.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
The fifth grade was good.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Then in their twenties they just beg you for money.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Now I've got a rule now, like I play a song,
and I like, play a song real fast. Play that
song right there, and I'll show you what I do
in the car. So I'll be in the car some
hip song, especially with this beat they got beat.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
I'm going to start don't contain back t put tare.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
And now it used to be funny now it's all dad,
I'm relegated. Wednesdays are the only days I can make noise.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
And sing and dance in the car.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Like we were going to uh a soccer practic last
night and I pulled it on it because it was
a perfect dance song.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I got. I got a test. If you can't robot
to a song, then the song is not a good
dance song.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
All right, what song can you not robot to?

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Well, I mean, legit good I eleven three eleven. You
can rollbot to a lot of the s. Right, there's
probably some Bob Marley doesn't that that that don't stick
me as a It might be.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Slow motion to Bob Marley.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, that not robot.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
It's more that slow mo flow.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
But anyway, and so I got two styles.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
One is the robot and the other one is like
a seventies dance where you go you got like this,
you know kind of I'm not on camera.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
So we're doing a little Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Wow, this can't robot to this? Subvibes. Lead singer's son
is the new lead.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
WHOA, that's kind of cool?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, that is cool. He keep the Taylor Swift Dan
Taylor Swift is not a robot song.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's a cool deal. Do you know that Food Fighters
is aiming for the new drummer to be Well he's
a badass. He is, Yeah, he is. But they fired
a really good drummer for that.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
I just saw him the other day, did you He
plays for nine in Snails now, doesn't he He's a
really good drummer.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
They fired him because they're bringing up Taylor's kid, right,
But where.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Does deputism exist in the world, d bac. Who would
ever hold their kid's hand to give them a job?
Who would ever ever make a plan for their kid?
Who would do that? Who would drive a mattress all
the way up to Boulder? Yeah? I did that?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I guess did that would fire a really good drummer
for their kid? Well, it's not their kid. I don't
mean the downer here. The kid's dad is dead, right,
you get the point. Yeah, well they got a plan.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Isn't that their kid?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
As long as you have a plan, that's their kid.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Okay, Well, maybe Dave grow kid.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
This is when we do killing time for Sean Payton
to come on for the cut day. This is what happens.
I thought we were just Samford, No we're waiting for
the theoretically they are running late here today, which, well,
I got.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Football question, No tough question for Tyler. What's up this time?
When your playing career? Yeah, did you ever have two
or three of these forty eight seventy two hour windows
where you were just you know, spitting bricks.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Like, not cut but still nervous?

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Oh? Yeah, for sure, I felt that way. They never
did get me in this window. I only got cut
after the opening day roster one time, and that was
my eighth year. The final year that was by the
super Bowl year, So it never did happen to be
But was I nervous every year?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
When would you stop being nervous?

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Like?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
How?

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Never?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I mean, quite frankly, honestly, unless you're a starter. Never never.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
But what time do you get your money guaranteed? At
least you get paid, right, that's true.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
So you have to be a vested veteran, okay, which
means you have to play three years three games, so
four years okay, and you can only do it one
time in your career. So at one time in your career,
if you're on the opening day roster and they cut
you after that, you can collect your salary. But if
you weren't on the opening day roster and then they
cut you, you do not get to collect your salary.

(37:48):
So you have to be on the opening day roster,
and you have to have four years of service and
you can only do it one time.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
So your first four years up until that first game,
you were just sweating bullets.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
The whole year. So your eighth year, when I got you,
I collected my full salary from Atlanta and I got
to get paid by Denver. That was a nice ye
good year.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, but look what it took to get there. Oh
my god, not easy? What's what is basketball? They just
give you? Just did they back up the brinstruck? Like
the second you signed this? Here's here's gargantuan millions of dollars.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
I was, you know what, I was stupid my rookie year. Wow,
because I did have a portion of my In fact,
I think, did you really?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
You bought ap How much were your making?

Speaker 3 (38:34):
No?

Speaker 4 (38:34):
I didn't buy anything, but I but I signed a
year lease in New Jersey, you know, nine hundred bucks
a month lease in nineteen eighty two, which is pretty
because I thought, oh well, they guaranteed my first year
of the three, one hundred and twenty five was guaranteed you?

Speaker 2 (38:50):
And how much were you paying? One for a car?

Speaker 5 (38:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
No, no, for a house nine old house.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Oh, a studio a studio apartment for nine hundred nine
o five actually and and but I signed the least
for a year. And then all of a sudden, about
about five days in the camp, I realized one hundred
and twenty five thousand dollars they don't care about they
in fact, they end up keeping me and kind of

(39:18):
a guy that had four hundred thousand guaranteed on his
contract and I and I about a week into camp,
I went, oh, my gosh, I might I might have
to owe these people for a whole year of of
of rent and I may not be on the team,
and then you know, the next two years. It's yeah,
the next two years. I wasn't guaranteed either, But I

(39:40):
actually had pretty good camps.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
By the way, the Rockies put out their schedule for
next season, mm hmm, that's curious.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
I got. I did get some insight info from the
Rocks today what what?

Speaker 4 (39:55):
And we talked about what's the name kid that they
moved over and is going to slide in for Feesil eventually.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Of Monforts, not Sterling Walker Walker Montfort. Yes, what about it?

Speaker 3 (40:07):
I heard is a great dude.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Yeah, it's really working hard, I mean works hard, is
really trying to learn. He understands he doesn't know the
baseball side of it. Yeah, and if they get rid
of Schmid, he'll have a say in who they bring in.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Well, wouldn't be his decision.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
But well, he's gonna have a big Well, his dad's
probably gonna say time. But but he's gonna have a
big say in it. But he ain't gonna be on
the baseball side. But but the guy I talked to
you said, listen, this guy, I've been really shocked and surprise.
He ain't some spoiled nepo as you called it. Okay, well,
I mean he is, but he but he said, he
doesn't act like he's a spoiled owner's kid, you know,

(40:47):
demanding everything.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
He said.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
This guy actually really works and put his time. I
thought it was a good report.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
That's fine. That that indicates that he won't be making
any autonomous decisions in terms of baseball. That means his
dad will still be in charge of Bill Schmidt keeps
his job or not.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Probably because the guy also said, like you. He said, listen,
he said, Warren Schaffers is a Warren Schafer, he's the manager.
Is not great interview with like the media people, he said,
but the players love him, of course, and they got
young guys that are really playing.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Hard for him. Well, okay, walking the company.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
And this is what I heard, and he said, he
said they should probably bring him back. He said, but
Bill Schmidt needs to be out of here. Listen if Warren,
if Warren, if Bill Schmidt is out of here, the
new GM probably will want his own manager, and so
Warren Shafer won't.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Be I'll stay consistent. If Warren shaf can do something
impressive like get to fifty wins, which would be impressive,
and they are playing like a playoff team, which would
be impressive considering where they were, I'm fine. Guess what
they aren't right now. They've lost four in a row.
They just lost eighteen to one in three games. They're
in Houston starting tonight. So Warren Schaffer did have him

(42:08):
there and now they're not. So that's the way it goes,
and right now they're not. And there's nothing special about
Warren Shaffer right now now he's got a month, five
weeks of baseball to prove us, I mean, to prove anything,
and we'll see what they do with it. But once
you get into September, people are right when they say
you're just beating teams that have nothing to play for
and the game's really, really, truly mean nothing. And people

(42:31):
are right about that criticism. The games that September are bs.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
I just say this about Walker Bonfort, like none of
that surprises me because we could say that exact same
thing about his dad. Hey, people really like Dick Bonfort.
Actually he really cares. He really does want this team
to win. Like he's trying his hardest, he's doing the
best he possibly can. Like, you could say all those
things about his dad and it would be true. Right.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
I haven't heard as many good things about the dad
that I heard today about the Sun.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Well, I don't know Scott. I mean, I don't know
Dick on a personal level. But I've heard a lot
of people thank you keep that's a keeper.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
But I've heard a lot of people say very kind
things like if you meet the dude, you'd like him.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I've heard that too. I've heard that too, But whatever,
it's a bottom line business here, you get five weeks
to see if you can do something unique or whatever.
But listen, if great Walker Montfort's a nice dude, but he's,
like you said, he's on the business side of you.
But Black was a nice dude also exactly, and they

(43:33):
needed to Okay, well, they've done actually better with Clinton Parkers.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Guy just does the business side of it. That's where
his nose is cleaned. And that's great.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Well, I'm gonna gets the business side of the Rockies
is probably pretty good.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
But this guy did tell me, he says, but to
be honest with you, Bill Schmid needs to be out
of here.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, so is there a person in power who can
make the hard decisions? And there's two brutally hard decisions.
What you do with the GM and what you do
with Sterling Monford who's in charge of scouting. Can you
fire the owner's son and and a guy in Bill
Schmidt who's been there for thirty years? And if the
answer is no.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
They can't fire them, but you can promote them.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Oh well, okay, so what's really gonna change?

Speaker 3 (44:15):
So promote them to something else?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Sure, I guess who knows. Listen, I'm as frustrated as
anybody when I see them, you know, hit the skids
like they did the past three games. That sucked for
somebody who's kind of pumping them up. But I'll keep
it real. They sucked man over the past three games,
and it was brutal to watch. Then most people don't
have the Roku channel or can find it, so they
didn't have to watch it.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
Well, they're they're they got a three game set against
against Houston and then it's the home series for the
Cubs as mister Cubb walks in the door this weekend
or for the Rockies. You going any of those games,
you're gonna make a make a point to, uh where
all your Cubs gear and root on your hometown team.

(44:57):
Go Cobbies there, you go right right down the line.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
By the way, we were killing time to get to
Sean Payton here and uh no, I don't think it
means anything. It's just you know, they're late. They're fifteen
minutes later than they were going to be, which again, Tyler,
I don't understand why they're They even