November 13, 2024 • 50 mins
Step right up to witness the political circus of 2024, where Trump's comeback tour steamrolled through the electoral college while Harris was busy staging fake phone calls and door-knocks. Brad and David break down how America collectively said 'thanks, but no thanks' to men in dresses stealing luggage and decided maybe having functional borders isn't such a crazy idea after all. In other news, David and Brad recount the tragic tale of Peanut the Squirrel, who fell victim to New York's overzealous conservation officers. Plus, bonus coverage of panda diplomacy, because nothing says 'congratulations on winning' like FedExing giant bears across the Pacific.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In these bleak days, humanity is at a breaking point.
Economies are tanking, the woke mob is canceling everything, and
the little guy who's just trying to run a small
business is getting screwed from both ends. But not all
is lost. Amidst the chaos, two men offer up their
(00:26):
voices in the darkness, dropping two thousand pounds laser guided
truth bombs on today's lunacy, introducing the Sirens of Sanity,
David Pridham and l Bradley Sheef.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The Lidout Shuffle Baggs, big big fan of Boscags.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I love that song, and I want to welcome everyone
to a new sort of a new down here in
America where you know, you can already sit and we're
gonna talk about some of the things that have already
gone on since the election. But Brad, this is this
is this is a new don This is an exciting
time to be alive.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well it is. But we said the same kind of
thing back in twenty sixteen when Trump won the first
time and the left it just went nuts, right that
they don't at least they didn't, you know, We'll give
them a break and see if they're better eight years
down the road. But they didn't want anything to do
with a renewed America or you know, a populist movement
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or a government that was focused on the people. They
wanted their agenda, and when they didn't get it, like
a much more dangerous and larger version of a toddler,
they threw a tantrum and started burning cities down. So,
you know, let's see if we actually get a new
don I would love that, but I'm not confident.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You know what I am.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I am gonna be the uh, the glass half full
guy here. I think it's a different time, a different dynamic.
The electorate has now, I think repudiated the nonsense, as
you would say, Jack assary of the Biden administration, the
men in dresses running around with naval uniforms, the bald
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men in dresses stealing luggage, the gender affirming care, the
open borders, the crazy nonsense in Ukraine, the Middle East, Afghanistan.
I think there's been a pretty large repudiation of that.
And what's great about it is that the repudia, in
my view, right, the repudiation didn't come from white men, right,
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I mean, it came from across the board. Coalition of women,
Latino men, Latino women, African American especially African American men
across the board, and uh Muslims and and uh Jewish
Americans and uh, I mean it's it's really if you
look at it, it's a remarkable coalition that Trump put together.
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And you know, want to get into this a little bit,
but I think probably the greatest political comeback I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Well it has to be right. I didn't realize until
you'll know this because this is your this is your deal.
But I read a headline somewhere. I didn't know that
any president had done this before, had won an election,
lost in election, won an election. But I guess Grover
Cleveland did it. He did, Yeah, and so but I mean,
I don't think Grover Cleveland had two assassination attempts. I
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don't think Grover Cleveland had you know, untold numbers of
trumped up criminal charges in a particular state that can't
stand Trump leveraged against him, or couldn't stand Cleveland leverage
against him, had the entire weight of you know, the
mainstream media national meta against him, or at least ninety
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five percent of it, and still was able to not
only win a significant majority of the electoral college, but
the popular vote, and you know, to your point, buddy,
it was the popular vote. Wasn't one group that carried
him over the finish line. And I think if any
lesson should be learned by the left here, it's a
walk a little bit away from the crazy. Okay. I
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mean there may be some, you know, noble aspects of liberalism,
but it ain't where you are, and people know that.
And two, we have thankfully begun to move beyond trying
to treat people as though they fit in a silo, right,
just just as a culture, as a people politically, The
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problem I think that the left saw was that they
still try to do that, right, They still try to
treat all women as though they're exactly the same. So
women are a monolithic group and not human beings. They're women.
And you know, people of color are not human beings.
They're people of color. They're a monolithic group, and you
can treat them that way, and they should vote that way.
I mean, look, Stephen A Smith of all people, chastise
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both Oprah and Michelle Obama for coming out and treating
African Americans, particularly African American men, as though it just,
you know, just land basing them and saying, well, if
you don't vote for Harrish, it's a vote against us,
right as though the US exists, and I think the
vast majority Americans just look at people's skin color or
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they look at their sex, and they're just like, okay,
ho hum, who cares about that. We're beyond that. Those
are people. They have jobs, they have lives, they have families.
They are going to vote for what is best for
their families, for themselves, for the economy. That's what they're
going to vote for. They're not going to vote a
certain way because they look down and go, oh my gosh,
I'm black, or they go, oh my gosh, I'm a woman.
And this whole idea that people didn't vote for Harris
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because they don't want a woman president, that's ridiculous. There
are women all over the government. There are tons of
women general officers in the military, there are tons of
significant companies being run by female CEOs. No one cares
about that anymore. That issue, thankfully, is past us. They
looked at the quality of the candidate, swallowed hard and said, well,
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between these two, it's this person who is the better candidate.
This person is a twit and an airhead, and I'm
sick of listening to her. And that's what happened. And
that's why you're missing all these votes on the Democratic
side because this, you know, about the same number of
people that voted for Trump the first time have voted
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for him again. And he and we were talking about
this a little before the podcast, but he would you say,
like twenty million, fourteen million something like that people who
voted for Biden apparently didn't vote. Yeah, it's like fort
I'll tell you, it's like fourteen million. And it's interesting because, yeah,
there are a couple of rules of thought there. One
is these people just didn't vote. On the right is
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that these were all the stolen votes in the last election.
Well yeah, I mean I I'm just saying no, no, no, no,
I'm sure it is and it may be true. I mean,
I think it will be a long time, if ever,
before we learn the truth about what happened in twenty
twenty exactly with all of these different just bizarre things
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that went on in that election. And no matter what
side you fall on, there were a lot of bizarre
things that happened. There were a lot of things that
got swept under the rug that nobody wanted to talk about.
And you know, maybe one day the data will be there,
and you know, some historian or group of historians will
dive into it, and maybe you and I will live
long enough to read that book. But that's possible, and
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and there may even be a significant chunk that were
votes that shouldn't have been cast, or were miscounted, or
you know, were cast twice or whatever the case may be.
But my guess is that a lot of folks who
sort of bought into the rhetoric on the left last
time that Trump is a Nazi, Trump's gonna do a
way with democracy, Trump's the devil incarnate. No matter what,
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you know, come rain, come hail, come dark of night.
You got to get out and vote against this guy,
or it's the end of our lives. You know. Fast
forward four more years, you get that same story and
you're just sitting your house going, oh, please, just just
please shut up, and you have no motivation to go vote.
So I totally get that.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well, that could be, yeah, that could be. Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I mean, I think that's probably a big part of it,
Although it's tough to say who's a more inspiring candidate,
either Biden or or Harris, because they're both they're both
way off. But it's, uh, it's interesting on the just
to put a final pin in the whole democratic thing.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It's interesting to watch the whole Harris thing.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Just combust and I and I get the fact that
Trump was not a gracious lose her in twenty twenty,
and maybe that's part of it, but for the fact
to have this election he clearly won, He was the
winner at like one in the morning East Coast time,
was clear before that, it was trending in his direction
to not concede, to not give a concession, call to
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not you know, to to not have And this is
different than twenty twenty, right, I mean twenty twenty it
was not that clear, right, But I mean Trump was
ahead and all these states and then they were the
votes that trickled in days after the after the after
the vote. But to not get you know, Biden, Obama, Clinton,
No one reaches out to Trump until late the day
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after the election.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's just it's sort of telling and like, I'm sorry,
but I'm all for trying to be objective and all
that stuff, but my goodness, they nominated the most inauthentic candidate.
I don't know if you saw this, but within the
last twenty four hours of her her air quotes candidacy,
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she all this was caught on camera. She was caught
on camera going door to door in Pennsylvania, right again
air quotes canvassing, whatever the hell that means. And she
goes up to this one door and there are these
two people on their porch, either going in or coming out,
and they hug her and they like thought she was great.
And she looked at them and she said, well, I'm
suposed to be knocking on doors, said do you mind
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going back inside, and then I'll come up and knock
and then we can film it with the press following her.
I mean, it's like like Budhajid's with the bike and
by the way, thank god we're rid of that moron.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But uh, she did that.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And then she gets in front of her whole press staff,
her whole campaign staff at her campaign office and I
think it was in uh, I think it was in
Philadelphia or something, and she's got it. She's she was
she's taking air quotes, taking a phone call from a supporter,
and she's talking about how they need to stay in
line and all this stuff, and the thought was it
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was some suppressed voter. And then she holds up the
phone for everybody to say hi to the person, and
it was on camera mode, right, so there's literally everyone's
getting a reflection of what she's pointing at. So she's
not on the phone's she's pretending and she's on camera mode.
So it's, uh, you know, it just just just totally inauthenticity.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And I didn't feel I mean I should. I don't
really like other people being miserable. It doesn't it's not
my thing.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But watching am Hoff the guy who hit the women
and Walt's tear up, I mean that that, for some reason,
that gave me a little bit of a little bit
of satisfaction. I shouldn't say that, and it really shouldn't,
but it did.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Well, buddy. I mean, I appreciate you being honest. I
think it gave a lot of people a lot of
satisfaction because it's it's it's justice right, it's come up
and the Democrats did, and I presume they did it
because of all the money that was in the campaign
accounts that by law could only go to a name
on the ticket, so it either had to be Biden
or Hairs. I don't know why they did what they did,
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but she was eight rrible candidate from the jump. It
is remarkable how much the media had to just you know,
give up on any sort of integrity, on any sort
of authenticity, I mean just entirely to the extent they
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had any sort of ethics with regard to journalism, they
just crucified those ethics in order to try and prop
Harris up. And despite that, and to the great credit
of the American people, the American people, the electorate looked
at that and said, now that we cannot have that.
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And what almost makes that better is that the one
that she was up against was not some super high quality,
you know, Reagan esque conservative candidate on the other side.
It was arguably a crazy person on the other side.
And despite that, she still couldn't get people to come
out and vot vote for her. In fact, many of
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her supporters, apparently based on what we just talked about her,
many of the prospective supporters, those who voted for Biden,
just said, I'm not leaving. I'm not getting out of
my chair right for that, I'm not getting out of
my chair, and so I applaud the electorate for having,
you know, looked at all of this media just absolute nonsense.
Pro Harris Anti Trump shoved it aside, looked at the
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way life really is, looked at the way the economy is,
looked at what's happening in their neighborhoods, looked at what's
happening in our culture, and said, we're just not doing
that anymore. We're not doing that. And they either said
screw it, I'm not going to vote, or they went
out and they cast a vote for Donald Trump. And
now you know, Trump's got to put his money where
his mouth is. And my my fervent prayer is that
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as opposed to his first term, he will listen. He
has the ability to bring strong people in around him,
and if he will listen to them, if he can
get up every morning and take just a tea spoon
of humility with his morning coffee and listen to the
people that are that he's able to put around him
and move towards the middle and govern from there. And
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if he can get Congress to do that, well, then
we can really get back on track in this country.
But if the if a Republicans start leaning as far
right as the Democrats did left and try to rule
from an extreme right position. It's just going to go
right back in the crapper and we're gonna have to
do this all over again in four years.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, And I think the good thing about that is
he's not I don't think he's inclined to do it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I think he.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I know he's a fascist, but he he's got one term, right,
he can't run again without amending the Constitution, and then,
you know, we talk about that all the time, it
will never happen.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So he knows that.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He knows this is a legacy building term, and he
also knows he's got at least two years. It looks
like he's got the Senate and he'll probably have the House.
So he's gonna have two years where he can build
Republican only coalitions to get legislation through. And that doesn't
mean right wing, but that means it's easier to pass bills.
You still want to get votes from the other side.
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But he's already I mean, the thing is, he's come
out this time and he's already said two things in
little he's doing these little vignette videos yesterday, Well, the
first one was about how you know, we have the
two hundred and tutor fiftieth right anniversary of the country
coming up in twenty twenty six, and he's going to
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do a big he's reinstituting the World Fair and they're
having a year or summer long I guess World Fair
in Iowa from like May to the fourth of July
or something. And he's got this, you know, he's got
every state. It's going to be working with governors of
all fifty so it's actually interesting. So that's the first
thing he issued, and then he did a minute and
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a half proclamation, if you will, whatever announcement on gender
affirming care, which was well thought out right. He said
he was going to revoke all the Biden executive orders
on that stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's going to.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He is going to then pivot towards getting Congress to
affirm that all the the only two sexes are male
and female and there are no other sexes. And he's
going to try to pass the legislation through Congress lifting
any moratorium on liability for doctors who perform gender affirming
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surgery on minors. I mean a lot of good a
lot of good stuff. So he's on that next, he's
probably going to go back and reaffirm the border policy,
revoke whatever he has to that's left of the Biden
executive orders they have that they haven't walked away from,
then build the wall. And I think also you're going
to see him try to resolve these conflicts right in
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the Ukraine and then try to read start that Abraham
Accord stuff in the Middle East, get the Palestinians a
homeland and try to deal with that issue once and
for all, and then get Saudi Arabia, Jordan and some
of these other countries to come on board with that. So,
you know, and all that stuff I don't think is
very controversial, right. I think you even hear Democrats now
talking about how absolutely harsh in harsh tones about their
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about their fellow Democrats who've had all this LGBTQ and
transitioning part of their of their agenda. So I think,
you know, I think by and large he's he's on
the right track. And I think even though he's going
to probably go back to that travel ban and all
that stuff, I think there's a way to deal with
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that from a tone perspective that will that will help
as well well.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
And again so he just I agree one hundred percent
with all of that, and I think those moves are
far from being radical, you know, extremist right wing moves,
their moves toward the middle, like this gender affirming care stuff.
I don't know where that happens, right, It clearly happens,
and it's just awful. I mean, you are mutilating children,
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and you know, simultaneously saying, well, that's what they want, okay,
with their children, they want to do nothing but eat
chocolate and popsicles all day long and never go to bed. Okay,
So would you let them do that and then say
you're just doing what they want, sort of like putting
it on them, but clearly you're motivating it. And these
surgeries cannot be undone. This work cannot be undone, and
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it's just horrific. But I don't know, like it must
happen in places that are just radically leftists, and I
don't know where those places are because when I talk
to people and I live in Colorado, buddy, I mean,
Colorado was one of the first states, you know, west
of the Mississippi to just be right. I mean, Colorado
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doesn't screw around when it comes to their sort of
rabid liberalism used to be red though used to be red,
I know, and my guess is that it will wander
back that way. I mean, it's the same thing. You know,
what's always remarkable. I showed my daughters this because you know,
they were like, I don't you know, how does because
I guess they were looking at a state and when
you look at the precincts in the state, the counties,
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you know, geographically, the vast majority of the state was red,
and then there's just these little dots of blue, and
they're like, well, how in the world. And I'm like, well,
here's what you got to remember. It's all about population.
So in those little dots of blue are the cities, right,
And so you got this dense population there. They're largely
voting Democratic. That's what moves the needle, and then that's
what gets these electoral College votes. But when you pan
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back from that and you look at a geographic map
of the United States and geographically, right, so town by town,
how people lean, it is incredibly heavy on the red side, right,
I mean people in this country geographically, and I get
it all about the people, and there's lots of people
in cities But when you wander around the country, you're
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wandering around in largely conservative areas, even in blue states,
And when you talk to people and you're like, hey,
do you want to like emasculate your boy children? Do
you think that's a good thing to do? Literally, no
one goes, yeah, I sure do, I do want to
do that, right, I mean just I have yet to
find a person, even people I know who disagree with
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me strongly on worldview and political position, who say, yeah,
I would lop off my son's nuts at the age
of nine because he came home one day and said
he'd like a Barbie doll. Yeah, right, I mean it,
just no one says that. So I think Trump going, yeah,
we're going to stop doing that is offending next to
no one. And the people who are offended by him
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doing that already hate him. So what difference doesn't make?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
And you know, if you look at the last two presidencies, right,
Trump won and Biden, they both made terribles. And you
know you said, I mean, you know, trump the first
move trying to revoke the Affordable Care Act made no sense, right,
It was great for the base, and you know, the
thirty percent they're going to vote for Trump no matter what.
But it didn't make any sense. I mean, the first
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thing you should have done. I mean, and I look,
I hope he does it now. First thing you should
do is invite Democrats and Republicans into the White House
and say, look, here's the agenda. And but but you know,
we'll we'll work with you on some of these some
of these issues. And I think sort of getting revoking
what's left of that of that of that infrastructure bill
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that Biden passed, revoking what's left of that UH broadband bill.
There's billions left in that, the revoking what's left of
that big environmental boondoggle that they had as part of
the the UH the UH afford of the whatever they
call that, the Inflation Reduction Act or whatever it was called,
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right right, just taking all the money, getting all that
money back, and then you know, reallocating it. Maybe it's
to build roads, I don't know. Maybe it's to invest
in technology.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Maybe it's incentivized companies to build here or to develop here.
I don't know what it is, but come up with
a plan, get broad support for it. Pass that bill.
The border bill is another one. I just don't you
hear everyone on TV? Now, I heard Chris Matthews on TV,
who I like, but he's a very left wing guy,
and he was very critical of all the spending by Biden,
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and he was also critical to border and he said,
I don't know, kind of like what you just said
about gender affirming care. I mean, it's mutilation, but whateverever
you want to position it. He said, Look, I don't
know anyone who thinks it's a good idea to have
an open border. And that's what Biden did. That's what
they did. So Biden should never have done that. Trump
shouldn't have done what he did. I think Trump has
an opportunity here to be a lot more thoughtful in
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how he goes about this. And I think one of
the problems he had in sixteen was he had a
lot of republiclkens who were air quotes supporting him, like
McConnell and Paul Ryan, who was the speaker. It just
weren't really behind his program. And now you know, everyone
who got elected this cycle owes it to Trump on
the Republican side, and they're electing new leaders in the Senate.
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Now McConnell's gone, or will be soon. So I think
it's important to get those people behind his agenda as
opposed to him getting behind sort of a traditional Republican agenda.
And he's going to have to pass some of this stuff,
like the whether it's the no tax on tips, or
incentives for borrowing and deducting interest on automotive loan payments,
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or whether it's whatever it is. Replacing the broadband bill
with the starlink would be a great idea, But I
think I think there's an opportunity here to do something good.
And you know, you'll see pretty quickly how he who
he's putting around him. And I think it'll be different
than before because a lot of the people who put
around him before he didn't know. I would bet money
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that the people he's going to put around him now
he knows. He knows they're going to want to implement
what he campaign do.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, well, the things he campaign on are good things.
I mean again, there's there's counter arguments to everything. I
get that, but not taxing tips perfect great, do that right,
as you said, pulling some of these some of this
money back out of these just crazy, heavily speculative boondoggle investments.
The government is going to make putting it back in
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the pot. And hey, guess what maybe you actually do
with it what the name of the bill said, Like,
maybe you reduce inflation with some you know, wise fiscal policy.
Maybe you actually do upgrade the national infrastructure. I mean,
in many cases, it's just an embarrassment. I mean, how
many more bridges have to fall down before we go?
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You know, maybe all this stuff we built in the
sixties is getting a little long in the tooth, right,
Maybe we better take a look at that. We're supposed
to be the last of the world's great superpowers. Maybe
we should have roads right and spend them mo that way, right,
and build up job. I mean, one of the really
cool things that's kind of been happening below the radar
is that, you know, we're starting to restock, if you will,
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the trades, right, young people, bright, intelligent, motivated young people
who you know, back in our generation, for sure, buddy
would have just gone to college, right, not not for
any good reason other than that's just what you did.
You know, if you were a decent student, you had
a decent head on your shoulders, and you graduated from
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high school in the in the seventies, eighties, nineties, even
the two thousands. You you just picked a college and
went right when someone said, well, what are you gonna
do there? I mean with the vast majority of kids,
I don't know, I don't know I'm going to major
in this is just what you do. And now many
of them are going, you know what, I'm going to
go in the trades, right, I Am going to go
into a you know, some career field while I'm working
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with my hands where I am producing something, where I'm
able to build a business, where I'm able to start
in service, where I'm able to innovate, where I'm able
to be to you know, invent and apply my inventions.
And that is going to be incredibly helpful to our
economy if the government comes alongside and support some of
that right and says, hey, we'll actually invest in roads.
(26:16):
So you folks with bright ideas about how roads, bridges, railways,
et cetera, can be better, there's going to be some
funding for that. As opposed to you freaking con artists
who keep trying to sell us windmills that don't fricking
work and take more energy to build than they'll ever
put back into the power grid. You guys can go screw.
(26:38):
We're going to invest in these young folks who have
real aspirations to do real things in our economy and
we're going to make that go. And Trump should get that, right,
I mean, if Trump is anything, he is a business guy,
and so one would hope that he would get that
and one that would hope that he would apply it
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and let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You know, there's also an opportunity with crypto. He can
do a lot with crypto to make sure that you know,
the sort of the beachhead for crypto globally is in
the United States.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So kind of what we do with the Internet, I
mean that was huge for us what thirty years ago.
The fact that the backbone of the Internet and to
my knowledge still does physically exists within our borders is huge.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Oh one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And he can and he's he's embraced crypto on the trail.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Really the first presidential Canada has ever talked about it.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
So that's to understand it. So someone will have to
explain it to me. But if it's a good thing,
it's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh I don't either, but I mean, you know, we'll
we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But I mean, the market was up fifteen hundred points
yesterday and the day after the election, and uh, you know,
I think there's a lot to be.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Focused on.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
And I do think not having another election is helpful
to him just because.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
He doesn't have to.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It's not something has to be in his mind, even
though I know he doesn't typically care about any public
support or folks breaking.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Against them, because you'll just attack them.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But I think not having to worry about that or
be distracted is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And so I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm excited about, you know, the possibility that you know,
Robert Kennedy Junior is going to be part of the
government on the health side. Maybe maybe secretary of HHS
would be just freaking amazing. And hopefully Telsea Gabbert gets
like to head the CIA or something, because that is
a mess and you know, it would be nice if
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we could get that out of control. And he has
promised Brad to release all the Kennedy files, all of them.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
So that's you.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Rob Clark, which so we've got to get Rob Clark
on a by the end of the year to talk
about what may be in those files.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Well, I don't discrew with any of that, and Buddy,
I would love And again I realized this is a
little bit you know about a I don't know, a
Red Sox fan talking about the Yankees or whatever man
from the time that I was in the Bureau and
certainly up to and trust me, I get it. The
Bureau has gone rapidly down hill as well. But the
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agency has not been doing its job, okay, just not.
I could give you example after example of what a
clown show that is, and so anybody that can get
in there. And unfortunately, pob mean, I agree with you
that it is too Trump's benefit that he doesn't have
to run again because he can just focus on what
he wants to do, knowing that at the two year point,
(29:37):
he doesn't have to start beginning to say, okay, how
am I going to put together a coalition that would
get me back in there? But unfortunately, four years is
not enough time to turn around to ship the size
of the United States government, right, I mean, it's just
not I mean, even if you even if you threw
out all the nonsense, right and somehow we're able to
get the White House in both Houses of Congress, just
(29:59):
you know, laser focused on fixing all the problems. Four
years not enough time. And so you know that's the
downside to there only being one term here is that
and presuming for the sake of the argument, Trump does
the things he said he was gonna do, if we
don't get someone in there of his mindset who's going
to carry forward with the seeds of success he plans
(30:23):
and weed out things that he plants that need to
be reeded out. Then and we flip it again in
four years and you know, Gavin Newsom or some other
just you know, liberal twit takes over. Then you're just
gonna you're gonna go back in the other direction, and
then you'll pencil them back in this direction we really
need is you know, twelve to sixteen years of a
(30:47):
consistent policy. But in order to get that, that policy's
gonna have to be way over towards the middle. And
in order to get the electorate to go, yeah, we'll
keep doing that, you got to move it towards the middle.
And if you're a conservative, it can certainly be on
the conservative side of the middle. Right, not asking anybody
to give up, you know, sort of their worldview or
(31:09):
the things they believe are important, but it cannot be
you know, closer to the end zone. Then let's say
the thirty five, right, I mean, you start getting closer
to the end zone than the thirty five, you're going
to lose a chunk of the electorate, and and you're
going to open yourself up to even false accusations that
your policy is the reason that some problem arises. Right,
(31:29):
So you know, let's say there's an economic problem where
there's a foreign policy problem. If you're closer to the
end zone than the thirty five, that opens the door
for your opposition to go, see, it's what he's doing.
It's these crazy, wacko extreme policies are causing this problem.
But if you're close to the middle, those allegations ring hollow.
When everybody just goes, I don't know, it seems like
pretty good policies to me. I don't think that's the problem. Right.
(31:51):
Maybe it's the fact that some of these other foreign
leaders suck, right, So I think I just think that's
that is the keyst Actually, if the Republicans have both
houses of Congress, is you gotta legislate from the middle.
You gotta convince people that even if they disagree with you,
and you disagree with them about certain aspects, particularly of
(32:13):
social policy, that at the core, you're all on the
same page. You're all trying to move in the same direction.
You're all trying to strengthen the economy. You're all trying
to improve education for our children. You're all trying to
improve health care for everybody. You're trying to improve the
infrastructure we all have to use. If you can convince
the American lecture to those things, they'll always be with you.
(32:36):
But you start wandering close to your own end zone,
and you're done for it. You're going to be out
in four years.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And I think it's I think if he started with
something like his you know, the Trump tax cuts and
extending that out, but then throwing in things to the
bill like no tax on tips, because the reality is
who's paying tax on tips anyway?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Right, Well, certainly if they're cash tips, yeah, no one.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
So uh so you put something like that in there,
put something like which would be popular, which should be
popular with Democrats, but something like the auto loan interest
deferment or elimination or deductibility whatever, and then you know
the other thing.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
He pledged to do in sixteen.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
He never did was that whole carried interest thing, right,
which allows you know, you and I, when we get
paid out of out of our company, we pay personal
our personal rate, right, we pay the income dex rate
at a personal level. But that carried interest thing allows
people like Mitt Romney to pay like a fifteen percent
tax on his distributions from his venture fund. That's what
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one of the things that Obama brought up in twelve.
And that's crazy, right, I could see why people would
be mad about that. It doesn't make any sense that
certain people at these equity funds pay some ridiculously low
rate on those distributions when they're simply if you if
you tax us like like as if it's ordinary income,
(34:04):
then why shouldn't they be taxed as if it's ordinary income.
And if a teacher or a fireman or a policeman
are getting paid, that's taxes ordinary income. So you know,
I think something like that could be very popular and
terms run on it before.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So yeah, do something like that.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I think I think all those would be would be
good ways to garner.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Support. And then you get your hook into a few.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Democrats. Then you move over to immigration. You say, okay,
let's start dealing with the immigration issues. I mean, it's
going to be sticky right when you get into the
whole deportation thing. But you know, you've got twenty million
people who've come into the country in.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
The last four years illegally. What are you going to
do with them.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You've got to you've got to identify them, you've got
to make sure that if there are kids that are
being trafficked, you've got to protect them. And then you've
got to either grant people on a case by case
basis asylum if it's appropriate, depends and the nature of
their entry into the country, and then other folks have
to be returned.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean, that's just the way it is.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So I think these are types of things he can
do where he'll get support from the other side, especially
after that last election.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Well but I couldn't agree more. And I think if
you approach the immigration thing again reasonably and rationally from
somewhere between the forties right to continue with my perhaps
you know, over worn football analogy, but in this football season,
people are just gonna nod their heads when you just
look at people and go listen, there's a really good
(35:38):
reason why countries control their borders, and we have for
better or for worse. Right, obviously for worse in terms
of the actual impact. For better, hopefully that we've educated
ourselves seen the results when you just throw open the
doors and let anyone come in. The fentanyl deaths have skyrocket. Right.
We cannot control substance movement of any type across our borders, right, so,
(36:03):
from illegal drugs to weapons to who knows what, we
cannot control that, right. So again, for the party that
wants to control you know, violence and death and always
harping on the guns, who knows what's coming across our borders,
We certainly don't because we're not we're not controlling them, right.
(36:24):
And then you say, and guess what part of that is.
You can't just come in here. So we are going
to have to get this figured out. And for folks
who have no reasonable excuse for being here other than
they just walked across an open border, they got to
go back, right, That's the way it works. And listening
to this argument of well, someone's got to do all
(36:46):
these jobs that Americans won't do, let's first ask ourselves
why Americans won't do them? Is it because they're just
really hard nonsense. I see Americans doing hard things all
the time. Americans of all different you know, shapes, sizes, creeds, colors,
religious beliefs do hard things all the time. Is it
(37:09):
because you're mistreating your labor force? And so a citizen
of the country is not going to put up with that. Well,
if that's true, then we shouldn't be abusing these people
just because they happen to walk across our border either, right,
and so there's really no good reason for us to
(37:29):
just throw them in the borders and let anyone carrying
anything come across. Right. And I am a completely You're
a historian. I'm a historian. I know how this country
got to be the way it is, and I continue
to believe that a melting pot is an amazing thing, right.
I mean, the number of advancements made in this country,
(37:49):
historical advancements made in this country by immigrants is myriad, right,
I mean, just story after story after story, and that
process will continue so long as we can continue to
have a reasonable immigration policy. And I think if you
present that argument again, the vast majority of the electorate's
just gonna go, Yeah, you know what, You're right, that's true.
(38:10):
Those things are true, let's do that. And so this again, leftists,
you lost, You not only lost heavily in the electrical call,
in the electoral college. When people argue about, oh, we
don't need that, you lost the popular vote, You're in
the minority. No matter how you slice it, nobody's interested
(38:31):
in this anymore. Get used to that. And if that
just blows your mind and upsets you and you can't
deal with it anymore, okay, fine, go sit in the corner,
suck your thumb. If you want to jump up and down,
say you're leaving America, that's fine. I mean, we certainly
don't have a closed border on the way out. Audios, right,
I mean, if that's what you want to do, do
it right. But if you want to reevaluate and go, boy,
(38:53):
maybe maybe we did get a little crazy. Maybe there
is a way that if we're willing to compromise and
work with policies, that we can sort of pull them
in our direction a little bit and actually make a difference.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Do that.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
How about you? You look at what happened in this
election and you go, oh, okay, like what we were
talking about, maybe that is nuts. Let's do something different.
How about that?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
No, look, I agree, I agree, and this is something
we're not going to resolve today, of course, but we'll
over the coming weeks and months. I think it'll start
to come into shape.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Let's hope, Buddy, that nothing would make me, you, everyone
listening to this podcast, and the vast majority of Americans
happier than for you to be an accurate prognosticator.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
So real quick. A couple of other notes. One exciting
news out of China. The Chinese have sent two giant
Pandas back to DC. I believe, I believe in direct
response to Trump's victory, but I'm not exactly sure of that.
(40:07):
But they're on a FedEx. They're currently being FedEx to.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Panda.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
They are literally on a I have a video playing
now of a FedEx plane being loaded with two giant Pandas.
And then second Brad This Saturday, Mark Longo, I know,
you know Mark is. It looks like, assuming he gets
the body of Peanut back, there will be a service
(40:32):
burial service for Peanut the squirrel in upstate New York.
Of course, Peanut, you know that's the pet squirrel. I
guess it was a squirrel.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
That he he found and rehabbed.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
It was in for shape, and then when the squirrel
was fully rehabby, refused to leave, so he kept him along.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
He also had a pet raccoon, Fred.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Apparently the the the New York Department of Environmental Conservation
raided his home on an anonymous tip. We talked about this,
and UH took the squirrel and the UH and Fred
the raccoon in order to test them for rabies. And
(41:20):
apparently the only way you can test for rabies is
to in fact decapitate the UH.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
You know, decapitate the thing. They had to decapitate the.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
So you tell me, in this day and age, the
only way you can test for rabies.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Simple, simple, the brain. Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
They did that, but I believe both tested negatively, which
is good news.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
But obviously from the pictures, these are not rabbit animals.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, yeah, I like the one, especially of him with
him he's in a raccoon or he's in a squirrel
costume holding the squirrel.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
That's how you do it. But I was not. I
was not aware of this story until you know, the
well one. You made me aware of it, but until
the events around the rating of the home, right, Like,
I didn't know about peing out the squirrel in front
of the raccoon and what's his cat's name? Longo? The
guy that mark Mark Longo. I didn't know. I you know,
(42:18):
I'm not a social media guy, so I didn't I
didn't see this pop up. But as you and I discussed,
I am as a former federal law enforcement guy, I
am fascinated by the fact that there was some mechanism
by which at the Conservation Department of New York could
enter someone's home without their permission, to take anything, to
(42:43):
include a squirrel in a raccoon out of it, again,
without their permission. I mean that that's a government agency,
so they are subject to the Bill of Rights. They
are subject to the Fourth and fifth Amendments to the Constitution.
You can't just go as a government entity into a
(43:03):
private home and take what you want. At a minimum,
you have to have probable cause, and in almost all
cases you need to get a warrant, and I don't
Is it against the law in New York to have
a squirrel and a raccoon in your home voluntarily like
(43:28):
I want them in there? Yeah, it's against the Well, well,
that's what I mean that I would like to know
that the the the statute on which a government agency
in any state stands to enter someone's private I mean,
(43:48):
think about it, thinking about that, this was your house
and you had a you know, I don't know what,
an antique gramophone, and some government agency said like you
know about that kind of that, and they just kicked
in your door while you were doing god knows what
in the privacy of your own home and came in
and took your gramophone and then you know, didn't even
(44:11):
do anything useful with it. It just destroyed it, just
said well, not only can you not have this, no
one can have it, and killed two animals. So I'm
not really sure. If you're the Department of Conservation, the
root of that is to conserve, right, So if you
don't know what that means, look it up and I
think you'll go, wow, like it's really not conserving anything
(44:32):
to decapitate it or kill it in any way. So
I mean, I'm just I'm fascinated, and frankly someone alarmed
that that happened. And I'm a little bit more alarmed
that there's not more people going ho ho ho time out.
How did the government get into this guy's house, And
if in fact, it is against the law to have
(44:55):
a squirrel. Hey, should we evaluate that law? And if,
in fact, a judge signed a warrant saying, yes, I
authorize you to enter this home without the homeowner's permission
and take the squirrel, then that judge needs to be reevaluated, right,
I mean, there are ways to negotiate this right to say, hey,
(45:20):
you know, we could get a warrant, we're not going to. Instead,
here's what we'd like. We'd like you to bring peanut
down to the local conservation office. We will draw some
blood from peanut, you know, where we do have a
public health concern that you know, maybe the animals a rabbit,
although again looking at the pictures of them you can
just tell they're not rabbit. But buddy, that that really
is I mean, setting inside the fact that it's a squirrel,
(45:40):
and that's kind of funny, and people made a meme
of it. It's it's it's it's entering someone's home without
their permission by an arm of the government.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, I mean that requires.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
There is a there's a rumor that Trump may attend
to this funeral.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
That thing you sent me of him, like sitting at
the resolute desk and he's reaching back to touch the
spiritual paw of the squirrel. I may get a copy
of that and hang it in my office.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
There is a there have been multiple, I gotta find them,
but I've seen multiple pictures circulating of him and his
victory celebration at mar A Lago where he's sitting there
with Elon Musk and with his wife and some other people.
And then in the background, and I don't even understand
the whole thing, but in the background, you have, like
(46:31):
hovering above the scene, you have a ghostly silhouette of
the of Peanut the squirrel, of Fred the raccoon, of
that gorilla. And I don't even understand who you what
happened with that gorilla, but maybe it was some someone's
pet they euthanized. And then Prime Minister Abe from Japan,
you know, the one who was shot. Yeah, all of
them just hovering over Trump like.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
It's just I don't understand, is there a Okay? So
Peanut the squirrel and Fred the raccoon, I get right,
like they obviously belong together. They were involved in the
same incident. I can see you extending that out to
another animal that was potentially you know, unjustly or without
(47:15):
cause euthanized. But then, you know, the leapover to the
former Prime Minister of Japan seems a stretch. I don't
know that he and Trump were friends. I don't know
that you can you really tie those things together. And
I think if I think.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
They played golf, I think they played golf.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Well, they probably did. But I think if you were
in the Prime Minister's family, you would say, listen, you know,
I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't really think my
former you know, husband, father, uncle, son, friend, colleague, you know,
blalls in the same category as the gorilla, the raccoon,
(47:56):
and the squirrel.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
You don't know that squirrel's beloved.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
And then just really quickly before we wrap up, I
don't know if you saw her. I set the video.
I just I shot it up into the zoom, But
I don't know if you saw. Kamala Harris gave her
her concession speech at Howard University, and she waited, of course,
till the next night to do it, because that's apparently
when you lose by landslide, that's what you do. And
(48:19):
before the speech, there's a video of the little the
Little Dais where she was going to be speaking and
there was a squirrel racing around the dais like, yeah,
you gotta watch the video.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
It's the funniest thing.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
And so they were like, it wasn't just this clip
because this clip is from some network. I don't I'm
not exactly sure, but there were other like CNN had
this dais on the screen while they were waiting for it,
and all you see is the squirrel just banding about,
jumping around. I mean, it's the funniest thing. And you
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know what it probably was. Maybe it wasn't peanut, but
it could have been related to peanut.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
Well listen, Unlike human beings who get and you know,
we talked about this earlier, who get all wrapped around
the axle, about trying to categorize ourselves based on the
way we look or act or think, as opposed to
just going, hey, we're all humans, you know, let's treat
each other as such. Squirrels do that, right. Squirrels do
not care if your furs a little darker, a little lighter,
(49:24):
if you're you know, you like to climb up the
left side of the tree or the right side of
the tree. They are united in their squirrel dumb, and
it would not surprise me if there was not only one,
but more than one squirrel who just got out there
on that dais and effectively gave the double middle finger.
Do squirrels have a middle finger? Do they have an
odd number of fingers? I don't. I don't know the
answer to that. But whatever is the squirrel equivalent of
(49:47):
the bird of just giving it full bird to the
person who represents the worldview that needlessly executed some poor guys.
Pet squirrel. So, buddy, I mean, as you said, we
do have to get out of here, but I applaud
your effort. You were on the clock, you stayed focused,
you stayed in it, and as a result, we got
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this post election edition of this very fine program done,
and it's in the can and it was well done.
And we will continue to keep our finger on the
pulse of you know, all things transition, the direction of
the country is moving. If we finally get to solve
the JFK assassination, we will do all of that and
we will bring it right here again next week on IP. Frequently.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
You know, as antonin Scalia once said, you've got to
crack a few eggs to make an outlet.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Indeed, I believe you did say.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
That this has been IP frequently, once again clearing a
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Well it is. But we said the same kind of
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or a government that was focused on the people. They
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they threw a tantrum and started burning cities down. So,
you know, let's see if we actually get a new
don I would love that, but I'm not confident.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You know what I am.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I am gonna be the uh, the glass half full
guy here. I think it's a different time, a different dynamic.
The electorate has now, I think repudiated the nonsense, as
you would say, Jack assary of the Biden administration, the
men in dresses running around with naval uniforms, the bald
(02:25):
men in dresses stealing luggage, the gender affirming care, the
open borders, the crazy nonsense in Ukraine, the Middle East, Afghanistan.
I think there's been a pretty large repudiation of that.
And what's great about it is that the repudia, in
my view, right, the repudiation didn't come from white men, right,
(02:48):
I mean, it came from across the board. Coalition of women,
Latino men, Latino women, African American especially African American men
across the board, and uh Muslims and and uh Jewish
Americans and uh, I mean it's it's really if you
look at it, it's a remarkable coalition that Trump put together.
(03:11):
And you know, want to get into this a little bit,
but I think probably the greatest political comeback I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Well it has to be right. I didn't realize until
you'll know this because this is your this is your deal.
But I read a headline somewhere. I didn't know that
any president had done this before, had won an election,
lost in election, won an election. But I guess Grover
Cleveland did it. He did, Yeah, and so but I mean,
I don't think Grover Cleveland had two assassination attempts. I
(03:41):
don't think Grover Cleveland had you know, untold numbers of
trumped up criminal charges in a particular state that can't
stand Trump leveraged against him, or couldn't stand Cleveland leverage
against him, had the entire weight of you know, the
mainstream media national meta against him, or at least ninety
(04:02):
five percent of it, and still was able to not
only win a significant majority of the electoral college, but
the popular vote, and you know, to your point, buddy,
it was the popular vote. Wasn't one group that carried
him over the finish line. And I think if any
lesson should be learned by the left here, it's a
walk a little bit away from the crazy. Okay. I
(04:24):
mean there may be some, you know, noble aspects of liberalism,
but it ain't where you are, and people know that.
And two, we have thankfully begun to move beyond trying
to treat people as though they fit in a silo, right,
just just as a culture, as a people politically, The
(04:48):
problem I think that the left saw was that they
still try to do that, right, They still try to
treat all women as though they're exactly the same. So
women are a monolithic group and not human beings. They're women.
And you know, people of color are not human beings.
They're people of color. They're a monolithic group, and you
can treat them that way, and they should vote that way.
I mean, look, Stephen A Smith of all people, chastise
(05:10):
both Oprah and Michelle Obama for coming out and treating
African Americans, particularly African American men, as though it just,
you know, just land basing them and saying, well, if
you don't vote for Harrish, it's a vote against us,
right as though the US exists, and I think the
vast majority Americans just look at people's skin color or
(05:33):
they look at their sex, and they're just like, okay,
ho hum, who cares about that. We're beyond that. Those
are people. They have jobs, they have lives, they have families.
They are going to vote for what is best for
their families, for themselves, for the economy. That's what they're
going to vote for. They're not going to vote a
certain way because they look down and go, oh my gosh,
I'm black, or they go, oh my gosh, I'm a woman.
And this whole idea that people didn't vote for Harris
(05:55):
because they don't want a woman president, that's ridiculous. There
are women all over the government. There are tons of
women general officers in the military, there are tons of
significant companies being run by female CEOs. No one cares
about that anymore. That issue, thankfully, is past us. They
looked at the quality of the candidate, swallowed hard and said, well,
(06:19):
between these two, it's this person who is the better candidate.
This person is a twit and an airhead, and I'm
sick of listening to her. And that's what happened. And
that's why you're missing all these votes on the Democratic
side because this, you know, about the same number of
people that voted for Trump the first time have voted
(06:40):
for him again. And he and we were talking about
this a little before the podcast, but he would you say,
like twenty million, fourteen million something like that people who
voted for Biden apparently didn't vote. Yeah, it's like fort
I'll tell you, it's like fourteen million. And it's interesting because, yeah,
there are a couple of rules of thought there. One
is these people just didn't vote. On the right is
(07:01):
that these were all the stolen votes in the last election.
Well yeah, I mean I I'm just saying no, no, no, no,
I'm sure it is and it may be true. I mean,
I think it will be a long time, if ever,
before we learn the truth about what happened in twenty
twenty exactly with all of these different just bizarre things
(07:23):
that went on in that election. And no matter what
side you fall on, there were a lot of bizarre
things that happened. There were a lot of things that
got swept under the rug that nobody wanted to talk about.
And you know, maybe one day the data will be there,
and you know, some historian or group of historians will
dive into it, and maybe you and I will live
long enough to read that book. But that's possible, and
(07:47):
and there may even be a significant chunk that were
votes that shouldn't have been cast, or were miscounted, or
you know, were cast twice or whatever the case may be.
But my guess is that a lot of folks who
sort of bought into the rhetoric on the left last
time that Trump is a Nazi, Trump's gonna do a
way with democracy, Trump's the devil incarnate. No matter what,
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you know, come rain, come hail, come dark of night.
You got to get out and vote against this guy,
or it's the end of our lives. You know. Fast
forward four more years, you get that same story and
you're just sitting your house going, oh, please, just just
please shut up, and you have no motivation to go vote.
So I totally get that.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well, that could be, yeah, that could be. Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I mean, I think that's probably a big part of it,
Although it's tough to say who's a more inspiring candidate,
either Biden or or Harris, because they're both they're both
way off. But it's, uh, it's interesting on the just
to put a final pin in the whole democratic thing.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It's interesting to watch the whole Harris thing.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Just combust and I and I get the fact that
Trump was not a gracious lose her in twenty twenty,
and maybe that's part of it, but for the fact
to have this election he clearly won, He was the
winner at like one in the morning East Coast time,
was clear before that, it was trending in his direction
to not concede, to not give a concession, call to
(09:18):
not you know, to to not have And this is
different than twenty twenty, right, I mean twenty twenty it
was not that clear, right, But I mean Trump was
ahead and all these states and then they were the
votes that trickled in days after the after the after
the vote. But to not get you know, Biden, Obama, Clinton,
No one reaches out to Trump until late the day
(09:39):
after the election.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's just it's sort of telling and like, I'm sorry,
but I'm all for trying to be objective and all
that stuff, but my goodness, they nominated the most inauthentic candidate.
I don't know if you saw this, but within the
last twenty four hours of her her air quotes candidacy,
(10:02):
she all this was caught on camera. She was caught
on camera going door to door in Pennsylvania, right again
air quotes canvassing, whatever the hell that means. And she
goes up to this one door and there are these
two people on their porch, either going in or coming out,
and they hug her and they like thought she was great.
And she looked at them and she said, well, I'm
suposed to be knocking on doors, said do you mind
(10:23):
going back inside, and then I'll come up and knock
and then we can film it with the press following her.
I mean, it's like like Budhajid's with the bike and
by the way, thank god we're rid of that moron.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But uh, she did that.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And then she gets in front of her whole press staff,
her whole campaign staff at her campaign office and I
think it was in uh, I think it was in
Philadelphia or something, and she's got it. She's she was
she's taking air quotes, taking a phone call from a supporter,
and she's talking about how they need to stay in
line and all this stuff, and the thought was it
(10:56):
was some suppressed voter. And then she holds up the
phone for everybody to say hi to the person, and
it was on camera mode, right, so there's literally everyone's
getting a reflection of what she's pointing at. So she's
not on the phone's she's pretending and she's on camera mode.
So it's, uh, you know, it just just just totally inauthenticity.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And I didn't feel I mean I should. I don't
really like other people being miserable. It doesn't it's not
my thing.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But watching am Hoff the guy who hit the women
and Walt's tear up, I mean that that, for some reason,
that gave me a little bit of a little bit
of satisfaction. I shouldn't say that, and it really shouldn't,
but it did.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Well, buddy. I mean, I appreciate you being honest. I
think it gave a lot of people a lot of
satisfaction because it's it's it's justice right, it's come up
and the Democrats did, and I presume they did it
because of all the money that was in the campaign
accounts that by law could only go to a name
on the ticket, so it either had to be Biden
or Hairs. I don't know why they did what they did,
(11:58):
but she was eight rrible candidate from the jump. It
is remarkable how much the media had to just you know,
give up on any sort of integrity, on any sort
of authenticity, I mean just entirely to the extent they
(12:19):
had any sort of ethics with regard to journalism, they
just crucified those ethics in order to try and prop
Harris up. And despite that, and to the great credit
of the American people, the American people, the electorate looked
at that and said, now that we cannot have that.
(12:40):
And what almost makes that better is that the one
that she was up against was not some super high quality,
you know, Reagan esque conservative candidate on the other side.
It was arguably a crazy person on the other side.
And despite that, she still couldn't get people to come
out and vot vote for her. In fact, many of
(13:02):
her supporters, apparently based on what we just talked about her,
many of the prospective supporters, those who voted for Biden,
just said, I'm not leaving. I'm not getting out of
my chair right for that, I'm not getting out of
my chair, and so I applaud the electorate for having,
you know, looked at all of this media just absolute nonsense.
Pro Harris Anti Trump shoved it aside, looked at the
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way life really is, looked at the way the economy is,
looked at what's happening in their neighborhoods, looked at what's
happening in our culture, and said, we're just not doing
that anymore. We're not doing that. And they either said
screw it, I'm not going to vote, or they went
out and they cast a vote for Donald Trump. And
now you know, Trump's got to put his money where
his mouth is. And my my fervent prayer is that
(13:48):
as opposed to his first term, he will listen. He
has the ability to bring strong people in around him,
and if he will listen to them, if he can
get up every morning and take just a tea spoon
of humility with his morning coffee and listen to the
people that are that he's able to put around him
and move towards the middle and govern from there. And
(14:12):
if he can get Congress to do that, well, then
we can really get back on track in this country.
But if the if a Republicans start leaning as far
right as the Democrats did left and try to rule
from an extreme right position. It's just going to go
right back in the crapper and we're gonna have to
do this all over again in four years.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, And I think the good thing about that is
he's not I don't think he's inclined to do it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I think he.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I know he's a fascist, but he he's got one term, right,
he can't run again without amending the Constitution, and then,
you know, we talk about that all the time, it
will never happen.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So he knows that.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
He knows this is a legacy building term, and he
also knows he's got at least two years. It looks
like he's got the Senate and he'll probably have the House.
So he's gonna have two years where he can build
Republican only coalitions to get legislation through. And that doesn't
mean right wing, but that means it's easier to pass bills.
You still want to get votes from the other side.
(15:14):
But he's already I mean, the thing is, he's come
out this time and he's already said two things in
little he's doing these little vignette videos yesterday, Well, the
first one was about how you know, we have the
two hundred and tutor fiftieth right anniversary of the country
coming up in twenty twenty six, and he's going to
(15:38):
do a big he's reinstituting the World Fair and they're
having a year or summer long I guess World Fair
in Iowa from like May to the fourth of July
or something. And he's got this, you know, he's got
every state. It's going to be working with governors of
all fifty so it's actually interesting. So that's the first
thing he issued, and then he did a minute and
(15:59):
a half proclamation, if you will, whatever announcement on gender
affirming care, which was well thought out right. He said
he was going to revoke all the Biden executive orders
on that stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's going to.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
He is going to then pivot towards getting Congress to
affirm that all the the only two sexes are male
and female and there are no other sexes. And he's
going to try to pass the legislation through Congress lifting
any moratorium on liability for doctors who perform gender affirming
(16:37):
surgery on minors. I mean a lot of good a
lot of good stuff. So he's on that next, he's
probably going to go back and reaffirm the border policy,
revoke whatever he has to that's left of the Biden
executive orders they have that they haven't walked away from,
then build the wall. And I think also you're going
to see him try to resolve these conflicts right in
(16:58):
the Ukraine and then try to read start that Abraham
Accord stuff in the Middle East, get the Palestinians a
homeland and try to deal with that issue once and
for all, and then get Saudi Arabia, Jordan and some
of these other countries to come on board with that. So,
you know, and all that stuff I don't think is
very controversial, right. I think you even hear Democrats now
talking about how absolutely harsh in harsh tones about their
(17:28):
about their fellow Democrats who've had all this LGBTQ and
transitioning part of their of their agenda. So I think,
you know, I think by and large he's he's on
the right track. And I think even though he's going
to probably go back to that travel ban and all
that stuff, I think there's a way to deal with
(17:48):
that from a tone perspective that will that will help
as well well.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
And again so he just I agree one hundred percent
with all of that, and I think those moves are
far from being radical, you know, extremist right wing moves,
their moves toward the middle, like this gender affirming care stuff.
I don't know where that happens, right, It clearly happens,
and it's just awful. I mean, you are mutilating children,
(18:17):
and you know, simultaneously saying, well, that's what they want, okay,
with their children, they want to do nothing but eat
chocolate and popsicles all day long and never go to bed. Okay,
So would you let them do that and then say
you're just doing what they want, sort of like putting
it on them, but clearly you're motivating it. And these
surgeries cannot be undone. This work cannot be undone, and
(18:40):
it's just horrific. But I don't know, like it must
happen in places that are just radically leftists, and I
don't know where those places are because when I talk
to people and I live in Colorado, buddy, I mean,
Colorado was one of the first states, you know, west
of the Mississippi to just be right. I mean, Colorado
(19:01):
doesn't screw around when it comes to their sort of
rabid liberalism used to be red though used to be red,
I know, and my guess is that it will wander
back that way. I mean, it's the same thing. You know,
what's always remarkable. I showed my daughters this because you know,
they were like, I don't you know, how does because
I guess they were looking at a state and when
you look at the precincts in the state, the counties,
(19:24):
you know, geographically, the vast majority of the state was red,
and then there's just these little dots of blue, and
they're like, well, how in the world. And I'm like, well,
here's what you got to remember. It's all about population.
So in those little dots of blue are the cities, right,
And so you got this dense population there. They're largely
voting Democratic. That's what moves the needle, and then that's
what gets these electoral College votes. But when you pan
(19:45):
back from that and you look at a geographic map
of the United States and geographically, right, so town by town,
how people lean, it is incredibly heavy on the red side, right,
I mean people in this country geographically, and I get
it all about the people, and there's lots of people
in cities But when you wander around the country, you're
(20:05):
wandering around in largely conservative areas, even in blue states,
And when you talk to people and you're like, hey,
do you want to like emasculate your boy children? Do
you think that's a good thing to do? Literally, no
one goes, yeah, I sure do, I do want to
do that, right, I mean just I have yet to
find a person, even people I know who disagree with
(20:27):
me strongly on worldview and political position, who say, yeah,
I would lop off my son's nuts at the age
of nine because he came home one day and said
he'd like a Barbie doll. Yeah, right, I mean it,
just no one says that. So I think Trump going, yeah,
we're going to stop doing that is offending next to
no one. And the people who are offended by him
(20:50):
doing that already hate him. So what difference doesn't make?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
And you know, if you look at the last two presidencies, right,
Trump won and Biden, they both made terribles. And you
know you said, I mean, you know, trump the first
move trying to revoke the Affordable Care Act made no sense, right,
It was great for the base, and you know, the
thirty percent they're going to vote for Trump no matter what.
But it didn't make any sense. I mean, the first
(21:15):
thing you should have done. I mean, and I look,
I hope he does it now. First thing you should
do is invite Democrats and Republicans into the White House
and say, look, here's the agenda. And but but you know,
we'll we'll work with you on some of these some
of these issues. And I think sort of getting revoking
what's left of that of that of that infrastructure bill
(21:37):
that Biden passed, revoking what's left of that UH broadband bill.
There's billions left in that, the revoking what's left of
that big environmental boondoggle that they had as part of
the the UH the UH afford of the whatever they
call that, the Inflation Reduction Act or whatever it was called,
(21:58):
right right, just taking all the money, getting all that
money back, and then you know, reallocating it. Maybe it's
to build roads, I don't know. Maybe it's to invest
in technology.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Maybe it's incentivized companies to build here or to develop here.
I don't know what it is, but come up with
a plan, get broad support for it. Pass that bill.
The border bill is another one. I just don't you
hear everyone on TV? Now, I heard Chris Matthews on TV,
who I like, but he's a very left wing guy,
and he was very critical of all the spending by Biden,
(22:32):
and he was also critical to border and he said,
I don't know, kind of like what you just said
about gender affirming care. I mean, it's mutilation, but whateverever
you want to position it. He said, Look, I don't
know anyone who thinks it's a good idea to have
an open border. And that's what Biden did. That's what
they did. So Biden should never have done that. Trump
shouldn't have done what he did. I think Trump has
an opportunity here to be a lot more thoughtful in
(22:55):
how he goes about this. And I think one of
the problems he had in sixteen was he had a
lot of republiclkens who were air quotes supporting him, like
McConnell and Paul Ryan, who was the speaker. It just
weren't really behind his program. And now you know, everyone
who got elected this cycle owes it to Trump on
the Republican side, and they're electing new leaders in the Senate.
(23:17):
Now McConnell's gone, or will be soon. So I think
it's important to get those people behind his agenda as
opposed to him getting behind sort of a traditional Republican agenda.
And he's going to have to pass some of this stuff,
like the whether it's the no tax on tips, or
incentives for borrowing and deducting interest on automotive loan payments,
(23:39):
or whether it's whatever it is. Replacing the broadband bill
with the starlink would be a great idea, But I
think I think there's an opportunity here to do something good.
And you know, you'll see pretty quickly how he who
he's putting around him. And I think it'll be different
than before because a lot of the people who put
around him before he didn't know. I would bet money
(24:01):
that the people he's going to put around him now
he knows. He knows they're going to want to implement
what he campaign do.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, well, the things he campaign on are good things.
I mean again, there's there's counter arguments to everything. I
get that, but not taxing tips perfect great, do that right,
as you said, pulling some of these some of this
money back out of these just crazy, heavily speculative boondoggle investments.
The government is going to make putting it back in
(24:29):
the pot. And hey, guess what maybe you actually do
with it what the name of the bill said, Like,
maybe you reduce inflation with some you know, wise fiscal policy.
Maybe you actually do upgrade the national infrastructure. I mean,
in many cases, it's just an embarrassment. I mean, how
many more bridges have to fall down before we go?
(24:49):
You know, maybe all this stuff we built in the
sixties is getting a little long in the tooth, right,
Maybe we better take a look at that. We're supposed
to be the last of the world's great superpowers. Maybe
we should have roads right and spend them mo that way, right,
and build up job. I mean, one of the really
cool things that's kind of been happening below the radar
is that, you know, we're starting to restock, if you will,
(25:14):
the trades, right, young people, bright, intelligent, motivated young people
who you know, back in our generation, for sure, buddy
would have just gone to college, right, not not for
any good reason other than that's just what you did.
You know, if you were a decent student, you had
a decent head on your shoulders, and you graduated from
(25:34):
high school in the in the seventies, eighties, nineties, even
the two thousands. You you just picked a college and
went right when someone said, well, what are you gonna
do there? I mean with the vast majority of kids,
I don't know, I don't know I'm going to major
in this is just what you do. And now many
of them are going, you know what, I'm going to
go in the trades, right, I Am going to go
into a you know, some career field while I'm working
(25:55):
with my hands where I am producing something, where I'm
able to build a business, where I'm able to start
in service, where I'm able to innovate, where I'm able
to be to you know, invent and apply my inventions.
And that is going to be incredibly helpful to our
economy if the government comes alongside and support some of
that right and says, hey, we'll actually invest in roads.
(26:16):
So you folks with bright ideas about how roads, bridges, railways,
et cetera, can be better, there's going to be some
funding for that. As opposed to you freaking con artists
who keep trying to sell us windmills that don't fricking
work and take more energy to build than they'll ever
put back into the power grid. You guys can go screw.
(26:38):
We're going to invest in these young folks who have
real aspirations to do real things in our economy and
we're going to make that go. And Trump should get that, right,
I mean, if Trump is anything, he is a business guy,
and so one would hope that he would get that
and one that would hope that he would apply it
(26:58):
and let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You know, there's also an opportunity with crypto. He can
do a lot with crypto to make sure that you know,
the sort of the beachhead for crypto globally is in
the United States.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So kind of what we do with the Internet, I
mean that was huge for us what thirty years ago.
The fact that the backbone of the Internet and to
my knowledge still does physically exists within our borders is huge.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Oh one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And he can and he's he's embraced crypto on the trail.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Really the first presidential Canada has ever talked about it.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
So that's to understand it. So someone will have to
explain it to me. But if it's a good thing,
it's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh I don't either, but I mean, you know, we'll
we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But I mean, the market was up fifteen hundred points
yesterday and the day after the election, and uh, you know,
I think there's a lot to be.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Focused on.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
And I do think not having another election is helpful
to him just because.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
He doesn't have to.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It's not something has to be in his mind, even
though I know he doesn't typically care about any public
support or folks breaking.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Against them, because you'll just attack them.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But I think not having to worry about that or
be distracted is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And so I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm excited about, you know, the possibility that you know,
Robert Kennedy Junior is going to be part of the
government on the health side. Maybe maybe secretary of HHS
would be just freaking amazing. And hopefully Telsea Gabbert gets
like to head the CIA or something, because that is
a mess and you know, it would be nice if
(28:36):
we could get that out of control. And he has
promised Brad to release all the Kennedy files, all of them.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
So that's you.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Rob Clark, which so we've got to get Rob Clark
on a by the end of the year to talk
about what may be in those files.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Well, I don't discrew with any of that, and Buddy,
I would love And again I realized this is a
little bit you know about a I don't know, a
Red Sox fan talking about the Yankees or whatever man
from the time that I was in the Bureau and
certainly up to and trust me, I get it. The
Bureau has gone rapidly down hill as well. But the
(29:15):
agency has not been doing its job, okay, just not.
I could give you example after example of what a
clown show that is, and so anybody that can get
in there. And unfortunately, pob mean, I agree with you
that it is too Trump's benefit that he doesn't have
to run again because he can just focus on what
he wants to do, knowing that at the two year point,
(29:37):
he doesn't have to start beginning to say, okay, how
am I going to put together a coalition that would
get me back in there? But unfortunately, four years is
not enough time to turn around to ship the size
of the United States government, right, I mean, it's just
not I mean, even if you even if you threw
out all the nonsense, right and somehow we're able to
get the White House in both Houses of Congress, just
(29:59):
you know, laser focused on fixing all the problems. Four
years not enough time. And so you know that's the
downside to there only being one term here is that
and presuming for the sake of the argument, Trump does
the things he said he was gonna do, if we
don't get someone in there of his mindset who's going
to carry forward with the seeds of success he plans
(30:23):
and weed out things that he plants that need to
be reeded out. Then and we flip it again in
four years and you know, Gavin Newsom or some other
just you know, liberal twit takes over. Then you're just
gonna you're gonna go back in the other direction, and
then you'll pencil them back in this direction we really
need is you know, twelve to sixteen years of a
(30:47):
consistent policy. But in order to get that, that policy's
gonna have to be way over towards the middle. And
in order to get the electorate to go, yeah, we'll
keep doing that, you got to move it towards the middle.
And if you're a conservative, it can certainly be on
the conservative side of the middle. Right, not asking anybody
to give up, you know, sort of their worldview or
(31:09):
the things they believe are important, but it cannot be
you know, closer to the end zone. Then let's say
the thirty five, right, I mean, you start getting closer
to the end zone than the thirty five, you're going
to lose a chunk of the electorate, and and you're
going to open yourself up to even false accusations that
your policy is the reason that some problem arises. Right,
(31:29):
So you know, let's say there's an economic problem where
there's a foreign policy problem. If you're closer to the
end zone than the thirty five, that opens the door
for your opposition to go, see, it's what he's doing.
It's these crazy, wacko extreme policies are causing this problem.
But if you're close to the middle, those allegations ring hollow.
When everybody just goes, I don't know, it seems like
pretty good policies to me. I don't think that's the problem. Right.
(31:51):
Maybe it's the fact that some of these other foreign
leaders suck, right, So I think I just think that's
that is the keyst Actually, if the Republicans have both
houses of Congress, is you gotta legislate from the middle.
You gotta convince people that even if they disagree with you,
and you disagree with them about certain aspects, particularly of
(32:13):
social policy, that at the core, you're all on the
same page. You're all trying to move in the same direction.
You're all trying to strengthen the economy. You're all trying
to improve education for our children. You're all trying to
improve health care for everybody. You're trying to improve the
infrastructure we all have to use. If you can convince
the American lecture to those things, they'll always be with you.
(32:36):
But you start wandering close to your own end zone,
and you're done for it. You're going to be out
in four years.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And I think it's I think if he started with
something like his you know, the Trump tax cuts and
extending that out, but then throwing in things to the
bill like no tax on tips, because the reality is
who's paying tax on tips anyway?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Right, Well, certainly if they're cash tips, yeah, no one.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
So uh so you put something like that in there,
put something like which would be popular, which should be
popular with Democrats, but something like the auto loan interest
deferment or elimination or deductibility whatever, and then you know
the other thing.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
He pledged to do in sixteen.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
He never did was that whole carried interest thing, right,
which allows you know, you and I, when we get
paid out of out of our company, we pay personal
our personal rate, right, we pay the income dex rate
at a personal level. But that carried interest thing allows
people like Mitt Romney to pay like a fifteen percent
tax on his distributions from his venture fund. That's what
(33:41):
one of the things that Obama brought up in twelve.
And that's crazy, right, I could see why people would
be mad about that. It doesn't make any sense that
certain people at these equity funds pay some ridiculously low
rate on those distributions when they're simply if you if
you tax us like like as if it's ordinary income,
(34:04):
then why shouldn't they be taxed as if it's ordinary income.
And if a teacher or a fireman or a policeman
are getting paid, that's taxes ordinary income. So you know,
I think something like that could be very popular and
terms run on it before.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So yeah, do something like that.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I think I think all those would be would be
good ways to garner.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Support. And then you get your hook into a few.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Democrats. Then you move over to immigration. You say, okay,
let's start dealing with the immigration issues. I mean, it's
going to be sticky right when you get into the
whole deportation thing. But you know, you've got twenty million
people who've come into the country in.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
The last four years illegally. What are you going to
do with them.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You've got to you've got to identify them, you've got
to make sure that if there are kids that are
being trafficked, you've got to protect them. And then you've
got to either grant people on a case by case
basis asylum if it's appropriate, depends and the nature of
their entry into the country, and then other folks have
to be returned.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean, that's just the way it is.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So I think these are types of things he can
do where he'll get support from the other side, especially
after that last election.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Well but I couldn't agree more. And I think if
you approach the immigration thing again reasonably and rationally from
somewhere between the forties right to continue with my perhaps
you know, over worn football analogy, but in this football season,
people are just gonna nod their heads when you just
look at people and go listen, there's a really good
(35:38):
reason why countries control their borders, and we have for
better or for worse. Right, obviously for worse in terms
of the actual impact. For better, hopefully that we've educated
ourselves seen the results when you just throw open the
doors and let anyone come in. The fentanyl deaths have skyrocket. Right.
We cannot control substance movement of any type across our borders, right, so,
(36:03):
from illegal drugs to weapons to who knows what, we
cannot control that, right. So again, for the party that
wants to control you know, violence and death and always
harping on the guns, who knows what's coming across our borders,
We certainly don't because we're not we're not controlling them, right.
(36:24):
And then you say, and guess what part of that is.
You can't just come in here. So we are going
to have to get this figured out. And for folks
who have no reasonable excuse for being here other than
they just walked across an open border, they got to
go back, right, That's the way it works. And listening
to this argument of well, someone's got to do all
(36:46):
these jobs that Americans won't do, let's first ask ourselves
why Americans won't do them? Is it because they're just
really hard nonsense. I see Americans doing hard things all
the time. Americans of all different you know, shapes, sizes, creeds, colors,
religious beliefs do hard things all the time. Is it
(37:09):
because you're mistreating your labor force? And so a citizen
of the country is not going to put up with that. Well,
if that's true, then we shouldn't be abusing these people
just because they happen to walk across our border either, right,
and so there's really no good reason for us to
(37:29):
just throw them in the borders and let anyone carrying
anything come across. Right. And I am a completely You're
a historian. I'm a historian. I know how this country
got to be the way it is, and I continue
to believe that a melting pot is an amazing thing, right.
I mean, the number of advancements made in this country,
(37:49):
historical advancements made in this country by immigrants is myriad, right,
I mean, just story after story after story, and that
process will continue so long as we can continue to
have a reasonable immigration policy. And I think if you
present that argument again, the vast majority of the electorate's
just gonna go, Yeah, you know what, You're right, that's true.
(38:10):
Those things are true, let's do that. And so this again, leftists,
you lost, You not only lost heavily in the electrical call,
in the electoral college. When people argue about, oh, we
don't need that, you lost the popular vote, You're in
the minority. No matter how you slice it, nobody's interested
(38:31):
in this anymore. Get used to that. And if that
just blows your mind and upsets you and you can't
deal with it anymore, okay, fine, go sit in the corner,
suck your thumb. If you want to jump up and down,
say you're leaving America, that's fine. I mean, we certainly
don't have a closed border on the way out. Audios, right,
I mean, if that's what you want to do, do
it right. But if you want to reevaluate and go, boy,
(38:53):
maybe maybe we did get a little crazy. Maybe there
is a way that if we're willing to compromise and
work with policies, that we can sort of pull them
in our direction a little bit and actually make a difference.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Do that.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
How about you? You look at what happened in this
election and you go, oh, okay, like what we were
talking about, maybe that is nuts. Let's do something different.
How about that?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
No, look, I agree, I agree, and this is something
we're not going to resolve today, of course, but we'll
over the coming weeks and months. I think it'll start
to come into shape.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Let's hope, Buddy, that nothing would make me, you, everyone
listening to this podcast, and the vast majority of Americans
happier than for you to be an accurate prognosticator.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
So real quick. A couple of other notes. One exciting
news out of China. The Chinese have sent two giant
Pandas back to DC. I believe, I believe in direct
response to Trump's victory, but I'm not exactly sure of that.
(40:07):
But they're on a FedEx. They're currently being FedEx to.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Panda.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
They are literally on a I have a video playing
now of a FedEx plane being loaded with two giant Pandas.
And then second Brad This Saturday, Mark Longo, I know,
you know Mark is. It looks like, assuming he gets
the body of Peanut back, there will be a service
(40:32):
burial service for Peanut the squirrel in upstate New York.
Of course, Peanut, you know that's the pet squirrel. I
guess it was a squirrel.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
That he he found and rehabbed.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
It was in for shape, and then when the squirrel
was fully rehabby, refused to leave, so he kept him along.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
He also had a pet raccoon, Fred.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Apparently the the the New York Department of Environmental Conservation
raided his home on an anonymous tip. We talked about this,
and UH took the squirrel and the UH and Fred
the raccoon in order to test them for rabies. And
(41:20):
apparently the only way you can test for rabies is
to in fact decapitate the UH.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
You know, decapitate the thing. They had to decapitate the.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
So you tell me, in this day and age, the
only way you can test for rabies.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Simple, simple, the brain. Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
They did that, but I believe both tested negatively, which
is good news.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
But obviously from the pictures, these are not rabbit animals.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, yeah, I like the one, especially of him with
him he's in a raccoon or he's in a squirrel
costume holding the squirrel.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
That's how you do it. But I was not. I
was not aware of this story until you know, the
well one. You made me aware of it, but until
the events around the rating of the home, right, Like,
I didn't know about peing out the squirrel in front
of the raccoon and what's his cat's name? Longo? The
guy that mark Mark Longo. I didn't know. I you know,
(42:18):
I'm not a social media guy, so I didn't I
didn't see this pop up. But as you and I discussed,
I am as a former federal law enforcement guy, I
am fascinated by the fact that there was some mechanism
by which at the Conservation Department of New York could
enter someone's home without their permission, to take anything, to
(42:43):
include a squirrel in a raccoon out of it, again,
without their permission. I mean that that's a government agency,
so they are subject to the Bill of Rights. They
are subject to the Fourth and fifth Amendments to the Constitution.
You can't just go as a government entity into a
(43:03):
private home and take what you want. At a minimum,
you have to have probable cause, and in almost all
cases you need to get a warrant, and I don't
Is it against the law in New York to have
a squirrel and a raccoon in your home voluntarily like
(43:28):
I want them in there? Yeah, it's against the Well, well,
that's what I mean that I would like to know
that the the the statute on which a government agency
in any state stands to enter someone's private I mean,
(43:48):
think about it, thinking about that, this was your house
and you had a you know, I don't know what,
an antique gramophone, and some government agency said like you
know about that kind of that, and they just kicked
in your door while you were doing god knows what
in the privacy of your own home and came in
and took your gramophone and then you know, didn't even
(44:11):
do anything useful with it. It just destroyed it, just
said well, not only can you not have this, no
one can have it, and killed two animals. So I'm
not really sure. If you're the Department of Conservation, the
root of that is to conserve, right, So if you
don't know what that means, look it up and I
think you'll go, wow, like it's really not conserving anything
(44:32):
to decapitate it or kill it in any way. So
I mean, I'm just I'm fascinated, and frankly someone alarmed
that that happened. And I'm a little bit more alarmed
that there's not more people going ho ho ho time out.
How did the government get into this guy's house, And
if in fact, it is against the law to have
(44:55):
a squirrel. Hey, should we evaluate that law? And if,
in fact, a judge signed a warrant saying, yes, I
authorize you to enter this home without the homeowner's permission
and take the squirrel, then that judge needs to be reevaluated, right,
I mean, there are ways to negotiate this right to say, hey,
(45:20):
you know, we could get a warrant, we're not going to. Instead,
here's what we'd like. We'd like you to bring peanut
down to the local conservation office. We will draw some
blood from peanut, you know, where we do have a
public health concern that you know, maybe the animals a rabbit,
although again looking at the pictures of them you can
just tell they're not rabbit. But buddy, that that really
is I mean, setting inside the fact that it's a squirrel,
(45:40):
and that's kind of funny, and people made a meme
of it. It's it's it's it's entering someone's home without
their permission by an arm of the government.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, I mean that requires.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
There is a there's a rumor that Trump may attend
to this funeral.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
That thing you sent me of him, like sitting at
the resolute desk and he's reaching back to touch the
spiritual paw of the squirrel. I may get a copy
of that and hang it in my office.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
There is a there have been multiple, I gotta find them,
but I've seen multiple pictures circulating of him and his
victory celebration at mar A Lago where he's sitting there
with Elon Musk and with his wife and some other people.
And then in the background, and I don't even understand
the whole thing, but in the background, you have, like
(46:31):
hovering above the scene, you have a ghostly silhouette of
the of Peanut the squirrel, of Fred the raccoon, of
that gorilla. And I don't even understand who you what
happened with that gorilla, but maybe it was some someone's
pet they euthanized. And then Prime Minister Abe from Japan,
you know, the one who was shot. Yeah, all of
them just hovering over Trump like.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
It's just I don't understand, is there a Okay? So
Peanut the squirrel and Fred the raccoon, I get right,
like they obviously belong together. They were involved in the
same incident. I can see you extending that out to
another animal that was potentially you know, unjustly or without
(47:15):
cause euthanized. But then, you know, the leapover to the
former Prime Minister of Japan seems a stretch. I don't
know that he and Trump were friends. I don't know
that you can you really tie those things together. And
I think if I think.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
They played golf, I think they played golf.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Well, they probably did. But I think if you were
in the Prime Minister's family, you would say, listen, you know,
I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't really think my
former you know, husband, father, uncle, son, friend, colleague, you know,
blalls in the same category as the gorilla, the raccoon,
(47:56):
and the squirrel.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
You don't know that squirrel's beloved.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
And then just really quickly before we wrap up, I
don't know if you saw her. I set the video.
I just I shot it up into the zoom, But
I don't know if you saw. Kamala Harris gave her
her concession speech at Howard University, and she waited, of course,
till the next night to do it, because that's apparently
when you lose by landslide, that's what you do. And
(48:19):
before the speech, there's a video of the little the
Little Dais where she was going to be speaking and
there was a squirrel racing around the dais like, yeah,
you gotta watch the video.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
It's the funniest thing.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
And so they were like, it wasn't just this clip
because this clip is from some network. I don't I'm
not exactly sure, but there were other like CNN had
this dais on the screen while they were waiting for it,
and all you see is the squirrel just banding about,
jumping around. I mean, it's the funniest thing. And you
(48:56):
know what it probably was. Maybe it wasn't peanut, but
it could have been related to peanut.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
Well listen, Unlike human beings who get and you know,
we talked about this earlier, who get all wrapped around
the axle, about trying to categorize ourselves based on the
way we look or act or think, as opposed to
just going, hey, we're all humans, you know, let's treat
each other as such. Squirrels do that, right. Squirrels do
not care if your furs a little darker, a little lighter,
(49:24):
if you're you know, you like to climb up the
left side of the tree or the right side of
the tree. They are united in their squirrel dumb, and
it would not surprise me if there was not only one,
but more than one squirrel who just got out there
on that dais and effectively gave the double middle finger.
Do squirrels have a middle finger? Do they have an
odd number of fingers? I don't. I don't know the
answer to that. But whatever is the squirrel equivalent of
(49:47):
the bird of just giving it full bird to the
person who represents the worldview that needlessly executed some poor guys.
Pet squirrel. So, buddy, I mean, as you said, we
do have to get out of here, but I applaud
your effort. You were on the clock, you stayed focused,
you stayed in it, and as a result, we got
(50:08):
this post election edition of this very fine program done,
and it's in the can and it was well done.
And we will continue to keep our finger on the
pulse of you know, all things transition, the direction of
the country is moving. If we finally get to solve
the JFK assassination, we will do all of that and
we will bring it right here again next week on IP. Frequently.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
You know, as antonin Scalia once said, you've got to
crack a few eggs to make an outlet.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Indeed, I believe you did say.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
That this has been IP frequently, once again clearing a
forest of lies with the machete of truth. You're welcome
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