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June 9, 2025 46 mins
Ep. 287 - The Art of the Tweet

David and Brad dissect the epic X meltdown between President Trump and Elon Musk while nuclear tensions simmer worldwide. From deadly bug spray encounters to biological men dominating women's softball, the guys explore how we've managed to create a world where grown adults argue on social media while actual crises unfold. Plus: why Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson finally got their due, the wrestling wisdom of Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage, and how Disney World has become ground zero for bathroom selfie influencers.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In these bleak days, humanity is at a breaking point.
Economies are tanking, the woke mob is canceling everything, and
the little guy who's just trying to run a small
business is getting screwed from both ends. But not all
is lost. Amidst the chaos, two men offer up their

(00:26):
voices in the darkness, dropping two thousand pounds laser guided
truth bombs on today's lunacy, introducing the Sirens of Sanity,
David Pridham and l Bradley Sheef.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, there it is. Brother Ron NAT's.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
No relation to Ron Mellow, by the way, who's doing
very well. But the Ronettes breaking up is hard to
do a classic. We are back here. We're starting to
ease into summer, very slight. We're just sort of shifting,
segueing into uh into summer. It's getting warm up here

(01:19):
in the in the Pacific Northeast, and you, my friend,
you are in the Appalachians and it's going to be
still a little colder. Is there Is there still some
some snow up on the old Appalachian Trail.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
I don't know because I'm not in the Apple, but
where I am in Colorado, there is definitely still snow
in fact, it snowed a little yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's currently raining.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
And I believe that breaking up Hard to Do was
made famous by Neil Sedaka.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Breaking up on Neil Sadaka still touring to this day,
my friends still touring to this day.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Could be the Postridge Family also did a version of
breaking Up was Hard to Do?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Really think about that. I have not. There was never
a fan of the Partridge Family. They kind of weirded
me out.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I get confused between the Partridge Family and what was
the other show where they had.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Like Brady Bunch. It's pretty bud.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I get confused between the Partridge Show and the Brady Bunch.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
The Partridge Show was with the Redhead, The Redhead, the
red Head Kidd Danny Bonaducci.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
And and the plot of the Partridge Family was that
there like a musical family and they travel around. Right,
it was the Brady Bunch may or may not have
been musical, but they didn't travel around. Do I have
that ride or.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I mean, I know the Partridge Family sang, but so
did the Brady Bunch. So it's and there was like
a Brady when I was young, there was like a
Brady Variety Hour and there was a Brady cartoon. They
would always sing it was never good.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Mm hmm. Well that's probably why they didn't do a
version of breaking up.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Is hard to do. It's probably too hard for them
to do. Dude, No Berry Menela, but it that way,
not at all, not at all. But who is really? Yeah,
that's that's true. That's true. Anyway, Brad, we are, We're back.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
We mean business, David Pridaman, Brad Chief here on the
Piman Chief We Mean Business ip frequently podcast. So just
got a note from my past to me from my
my my wife electronically that the bug.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Guy is here.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
The bug guy.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, so you can be a lot of routes with that.
If you give me one minute, I'm gonna have to.
I've been summoned to deal with that. And listen, you can
only get this on the Priniman Chief podcast.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
All right, So David, we're going to require at this
point an explanation of because bug guy is amus as
to what you mean. So you're back. You've interfaced with
this person.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
No, not really really as not really guy, not really.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
The The interface is a stretch, just call it an interface.
I went around you could probably hear the humming in
the background. I went around the house looking for him,
and there's a guy out there dressed in what appears
to be a hazmat suit, spraying the bushes and everything
everything out there with this these chemicals designed to.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Kill any anything that comes into contact with it.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
So I stopped him and I said, my wife told
me to come out and find you because you wanted
to talk to me. And the guy looked at me
and started waving his hands like I should go in
the house, and he said, I wanted to tell you
not to come outside for.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
The next hour. So that's what's happening now.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
So I'm a little flighty right now. I got a
couple of whiffs of this thing. And let me just
tell you something. It's not for the faint of heart.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
That you know.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
What is ironic is while you were gone quasi interfacing
with the bug guy, Jared and I were discussing bug guys.
And one of the things that that you ask the
bug guy, obviously, is you're vetting the potential bug guys,
is is the stuff that you're spraying going to kill

(05:14):
me or any member of my family or household, pets
and of course, with the answer is yes, you have
to move on, right, Like this purpose of answer asking
the question is if you get a positive response, And
as Jared pointed out, it doesn't really matter whether or
not it's the bug stuff or not, just if anything
the bug guy's going to do is going to result
in your death. Could be the chemicals, could be that

(05:35):
he's just.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
An axe murderer.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
But if his answer is positive in any sense, you
have to eliminate him from your pool of potential bug guys.
And so I was saying, I've never gotten a positive
response from a bug guy. You know, no bug guys
ever said oh, yeah, this stuff is almost certainly going
to kill.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You, but you just did. Yeah, I survived. I survived
it though, but yeah, he was waves very nervous about
waving me in and everything. Sorry, I signed the waiver.
I'm good. Good. Well, what what what issue do you have?
Ticks and mosquitoes, Brad, ticks and mosquitoes. Ticks and mosquitoes.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
You don't have this issue high in the Rockies where
you live, we talk about.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
That as well.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Jared was asking, why in the hell do you need
an exterminator? And the answer, if you've ever met any
woman with the last name shef is spiders.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
They killed them, killed them at the bottom of your shoe.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
They trained buddy, They trained the dog to eat them.
My girls trained Laika to eat spiders. And that's when
I was again, as I was telling Jared, that's how
I know there's a spider in the house. I'll be
sitting someplace doing whatever I'm doing, and I will hear
a frantic cry for the dog, and I will know
that someone has discovered a spider. So you're you're having

(06:54):
your house sprayed with deadly chemicals, deadly chemicals and what
is almost certainly going to be an unsuccessful attempt to
eliminated spraying the ocean.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Let's spray the Atlantic ocean. What's that happening anyway? But
there it is. Listen, that's it. Yeah, okay, right on,
Well that's why people tune in for. You know, what's interesting.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
There's a there's a burgeoning deer population here this year
for some reason here this year, lots of deer.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Wow, that's queer, yeah it is. But anyway, yeah, so
I've seen a bunch of deer.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
But anyway, they're probably all dead now because they experiencing
these guys.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Out there with Agent Orange just hosing down your whole property.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
It's great, Yeah, it's but you know what, it's like
a head whoa, it's like a head rush.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Burn some water to burn these clothes and let's dilute
whatever you just imbibed. Yeah, he's out there, he's out there,
you know.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But you know what, though, Brad, at the end of
the day, happy wife, happy life.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
That is funny though, that.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I mean, it's the classic, you know, slapstick comedy irony
when you hunt the guy down simply to be told
that all he wanted to tell you was don't hunt
me down.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah. Correct.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
And then the appliance guys out there, we've got to
busted the appliance guys with the bud guy. No, no,
the appliance guy's in his car parked in front of
the house. I knocked down the window to see what
he was doing, and he just looked at me and said,
I'm not gonna open the window that I can't open.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
This guy said not to not to be out there.
So I'm driving. I've got to reschedule.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
So he left, and I'm standing out there like a
like a moron, shorts and a t shirt exactly exactly right, shorts,
T shirt, dumb look in my face. Yea, it is
what it is. But listen, that's what you gotta do.
That's what you got to do to survive. And yeah,
so there, there we are. So what's going on this week, Brett,

(08:56):
anything you want to talk about in particular. I mean,
we could start with the President of the United States.
He's been negotiating with Cherman g and Vladimir Putin after
the Russian nuclear delivery system was uh.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Was dealt a crippling blow.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
By the Ukrainians.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I mean, that's uh, that's interesting. Or we could talk
about the blood feud.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Between Donald Trump and Elon Musk wants best friends Brad
now engaged in a bitter blood feud on the Twitter
the X the X where as far as I can tell,
and they're there, they were just they were just tweets
going back and forth. Yesterday, Musk opposed the budget Reconciliation bill,

(09:41):
calling it a pork pork barrel dream, and then Trump
questioned Musk's mental health, and then Musk questioned Trump's uh
transparency during the election because now he's he's, according to Musk,
spending a lot more money and then Trump said, the
only reason Musk cares is because of the the space

(10:02):
program and the big subsidies he's getting. And then then
Musk came back and said, without me, you wouldn't have
been elected. And then Trump came back and said, well,
maybe I should investigate Tesla. And at this point that
Tesla stock is down fifteen percent into this exchange. And
Steve Bannon goes on the podcast radio network and he

(10:25):
says that he thinks that you know, Steve Bannon.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Brought a big ally of the president, that that's not
the guy who right, Oh no, no, no, that's David Banner.
David Banner, okay, or Bruce Banner, Chus Bocti. That was
a manager. Bruce Bochty is a different thing. I thought
it was.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I thought it was close. But it's important to distinguish
because I mean, if someone who can become the whole
gets on a podcast, I won't pay attention to that.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
But this is the this is yeah, it's similar though
attributes and so Bannon goes out and Bannon says, listen,
I've always had my visions about Elon Musk, and I
think he's here illegally.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
So President, the President should deform him at this point.
You know, it's just like you're just going back and forth.
It it's like literally, yeah, you and I've.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Said this before, but man oh man, it's like being
in like year five of Cheers or or you know,
year four of Mash and it's just the greatest entertimmy.
Just when you think they can't they can't be you know,
one day you got Trump in the Oval Office or
in the whatever, the Oval office wherever he was with

(11:32):
the South African president. They wheel in the avy equipment
and he attacks them with the white golfers and you think,
you think, listen, whoever is producing this ship or whoever's
directing this is freaking fantasastic.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Is an absolute comedic genius. But there's no way you
can you can you can top it, right, you just
can't top it. There's no nothing. And then this and
then they do. They give us this gift.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Which is some of the most entertaining stuff I've seen
in a while. Now. Unfortunately, there may be a daytunt
because one of the billionaire hedge fund guys jumped in
and said, uh, you know who just supposed to be mortified, right,
just sust be mortified, you know. I mean, at one point,
Trump said he was in the you know, Musk did
that Oval Office farewell about a week ago.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
It was last week, and he had like somewhat of
a black.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Eye, and no one said anything about I mean, the
media said some about it, but Trump did say anything
about it. So yesterday Trump tweets out, you know, and
he was also very nice to me in the Oval
Office during his farewell ceremony.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
He said, by the way, what's up with that black guy.
That doesn't seem normal. It's just just attacking. They're attacking
each other.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
And but this hedge fund guy jumps in and says, listen,
we're much stronger together than apart. We should really just
get along. And Elon Musk agreed with that. So it
seems like there's gonna be a phone call now. But man,
oh man, the entertainment you get out of this White
House is literally second to none.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Well, but there's no arguing that what you have just
said is a hunterber cent. True.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
But the the most it is somewhat diminished in.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Its comedic value by what you said at the end,
which is that it's the White House, right, which indicates that.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
It is the president of these.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
United States, arguably the last remaining superpower, who is engaging
in a ridiculous tit for tat. You know, No, I'm not,
but you are kind of exchanged.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
That you, you know, the average adult has not.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
The reason that it. You're you're you shake your head
for saying. You're like, well, I feel like I've been
here before. You have because you were in the third
grade at some point, right when someone said, well, you eat,
you know, boogers, and you said I don't, but you do,
and then you spend the next ten minutes just doing
that back and forth at each other, right, And but

(14:04):
you stopped when you got to the fourth grade. Unfortunately,
you have the president of the United States having in
exchange with, you know, an inarguably very powerful man just
because of the amount of wealth that he has accumulated
and the things into which he has his little fingers.

(14:26):
And they're not only having this back and forth, but
they're doing it publicly through the Twitter, right like yeah,
is there no? And so here's what that tells you,
which is just is again simultaneously funny and horrifying, is

(14:48):
that neither of these guys have anywhere near them an
adult right, like I can tell you right now, I
don't have any social media, but if I did, and
if I was engaging with another adult person in this
fashion on the Twitter, Krista would look. My wife would look,

(15:12):
she would observe, her affect would not change at all.
She would go over to our range, upon which perpetually
sits a cast iron frying pan. She would pick it up,
and she would knock me into next week. Wouldn't say
a word, wouldn't again, facial expression wouldn't change.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
She would just assault, sult.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
It's both an assault, and I believe you're the lawyer,
but I believe it's also a battery.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
If she makes contact.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, so well there you go, so at okay, Well,
the trust me she's making contact. Okay, I mean I've
been married to the woman for thirty five years making contact,
so you know. And then she would put the frying
pan back and just say nothing. And it would be
obvious to me when I woke up that you know,

(16:01):
I had been acting like a child and I should
do better. But what that means is that there is
is no one within frying pan distance of either the
President of the United States or Elon Musk because someone
would have certainly hit them with it.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Now this hedge from well, they may have must kind
a black guy in the oval. The other day he
mentioned Trump mentioned that black guy because there was a
big New York Times article over the weekend about how
Musk was all doped up on cocktail of drugs during
the campaign to get him through, and he brought that up,
and then Elon Musk said, yeah, but you know, it's
very likely that Trump's name is in the Epstein files,

(16:41):
and that's why he hasn't released the meet.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
You just can't make it up.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
And now listen, they're going to talk today though, They're
got to talk.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, well, I literally got to talk. I mean yeah,
I mean it is just you know, I mean, we're
we're you know, in danger of some degree of nuclear
conflict between you know, Russia and the Ukraine, between China
and Taiwan, and of course the United States is in
the midst.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Of all of that.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
And you know, what you're looking for is for the
president to march confidently to some podium somewhere, potentially the
Rose Garden, and to sure the citizenry of the United
States that you know, the office of the President is
engaged and understands the risk and is working diligently to
diffuse these situations and lays out a plan for so doing,

(17:32):
and at the end of it pumps up the United
States military and says, but no matter what happens, we
have the greatest military in the world, and we will
deal with it. And then everybody sort of you know,
gets you know, nods their heads and says, okay, all right,
you know, we're okay here this this guy's in charts.
But that's that's not that's not what we get. We

(17:54):
transition from a doddering fool who has no idea where
he is and is allowing all of these things to
just percolate and foment to a guy who you know,
can't focus on any of that because he wants to
make sure that he gets the last little lick in

(18:14):
a Twitter war between he and another apparent seven year
old who happens to own Tesla and SpaceX and and
you know be a billionaire and who you know, as
as you pointed out as late as last week, we're
apparently working together to cut out you know, fraud, waste,
and abuse. You it's government and this is this is

(18:35):
this is just where we're at and so not. I mean,
not only does everyone in America have to just be
shaking their heads, but I mean, who knows what Putin
and g think or what. Just you know, the average
man in the street anywhere else in the world has
just got to be going what.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
But uh, you know, it's it is what it is,
I guess at this point, but it's it's damn damn entertaining.
It is.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I don't disagree with anything you said. I don't disagree
with anything you said, but this.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Is some good stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
It's sort of like, I mean, you follow you're a
Big Wrestling fan, ya, I mean Big is Big Wrestling,
So it's like it's like that, right. I mean, I
don't know if you remember the late mid to late eighties,
Hulk Hogan was a superstar. He was a specimen that
sculpted in such a way that you know, unlike you

(19:29):
and I I mean, he was he was any any
any thing he wanted any I mean, he could have
been an all star pitcher in baseball, He could have
been a he could have been great in billiards if
he wanted to. He could be great at weightlifting. He
was a good, good weight of twenty four inch pythons, Brad,
and then he got together with the Macho Man Randy
Savage to form the Mega Powers.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Remember that, I vaguely remember that, I remember Randy Savage,
I certainly remember Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
But any event, Yeah, so these guys together they are
the greatest tag team of all time at that point,
the Mega Powers.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
And then then they had this falling out.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
And the falling out was primarily I mean, I don't
want to get sidetracked here, but if you remember Lovely
Elizabeth who's now dead of.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
It drug overdose, gott rest her soul, but.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
She was the Macho Man's valet or valet and manager,
also his wife in real life, and then that they divorced.
But the Macho Man started noticing, noticing that Hulk Cogan
had what he called list in his eyes for Elizabeth
when he would look at her, and they broke up.
They brought the Mega Powers, broke up, and then they

(20:36):
led to the first Summer Slam, and uh, the Macho
vn recruited zeus. It was like a six foot ten
African American Hulk Cogan with a big Z carved on
the side of his head, and it was supposed to
be unbeatable, but he Ogan beat him and and that
was that.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
And that was the end of the Mega Powers. But
it's always it's always a woman.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
You noticed that that leads to this And in this case,
I don't I don't know about Muskin and Trump because
I don't know, but and maybe there's something going on there.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I don't. I don't know, but that he had listened
his eyes and that was it. Macha Man couldn't think.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Strue was wasn't having him.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean, and he was in the I mean, he's
another guy could have I mean, he was in the
Saint Louis Cardinals farm system. Is Randy Poffo before he
became Randy the Macho Man.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Savage. Yeah, well, there you go. He's dead too. They're
all dead. Hogan's not dead, He's gonna Andy Savage is dead.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
He died about ten years ago. He had I think
he had a heart attack while driving down a highway
and he drove into like a head onto another car
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Not good, great, great Ultimate Warrior dead too, You know that?
Notice a trend these guys.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
All, Buddy, we we've talked about this.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
We're at the age unfortunately, where all of our you know,
childhood heroes and you know heroes of our youth, be
they wrestlers, rock musicians, you know, pop culture icons, college professors,
whatever the case may be, they're all dying.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I had two professors I really liked at PC, the
d Z brothers, Richard and Robert Daisy.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
DEA s Y.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
And they one of them taught contemporary American politics.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
He wants to be dead. He's happy he is dead. Well,
he's dead. They're both dead now.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Brother were their eighties were in late seventies and eighties
when I was there.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
But that was Richard and he was the cool one.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
He did contemporary American politics, and he taught a seminar
in the American Presidency.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
And then there was Robert.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
And Robert Daisy was like eighty and he would get
up and he did a seminar in World War One
and he would get up and talk for two frickin hours,
twice a week.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
And he just talked, no notes, nothing, just talk.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
And I wish I could have recorded it because it
was the most insightful lesson I learned about world conflict
and war. I mean, it was just an incredible and
this guy's like eighty one years old, just pacing up
there to suit, just pacing back and forth. Then there
was Jim McGovern who taught a seminar in Vietnam and
fought there, and he.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
He was like, he was like, the.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
What's the guy's name who passed away who was in
back to school theft, the crazy Not bobcat Guldaway, but
something like the same Canison, because the same Kennison.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah he was the same Tennyson type. But yeah, that
that's yeah, that's that. But then that's neither here nor there.
Not even sure how we got on that topic.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
We got because we were talking about all of our childhood.
You know, icons dying off and the DZ brothers. They're
both dead into that guy and they're both dead dead,
but again, given theirs of expertise, they're glad to be dead.
If you are an expert in American politics, you do
not want to be alive to witness what we are witnessing.
And if you are an expert in global conflict, you

(23:59):
do not.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Want to be alive to witness what we are witnessing. Soldn't.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, I wonder what the Chinese, I mean, the Chinese
must think they can take Taiwan.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
I mean, who's going to stop them? Who's going to die?
I tell, I mean that is a very reasonable question.
I mean they have been preparing. You know, it is
one thing, in fairness and in all honesty, right, I mean,
non humorously, it is infinitely easier to prepare to attack one,
you know, sort of fixed goal than to have to

(24:29):
to defend it.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Right.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Defense is harder than attack because you know it's true
in sports, right, the offensive player knows what they want
to do. You have to try and guess, right, And
so that's just harder. And the United States military has
the very difficult burden of having to be prepared to
defend against whatever craziness somebody might.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Come up with.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Right, I mean, we sort of have placed ourselves in
the position of you know, the globes policemen, and you know,
we're going to insert ourselves into all of these conflicts,
and not unreasonably right. I mean, I'm not saying that's
the wrong thing, because a localized conflict, you know, you
go look at the history of the world has a
very strong tendency to expand and become a globalized conflict, right,

(25:13):
And so you don't want to be Chamberlain who comes
back to England and says, hey, peace in our time, right.
You don't want to be that guy and then get
smoked like the Brits did. And so I there's some
value in being the globes policeman, but it is a
very difficult thing to do. And when you're dealing with
a you know, another reasonably potent military power, I eat

(25:36):
China that definitely has nukes, and they look at you
and they say, we're taking this island. It belongs to us,
it is going to be a hard thing to say no,
you're not. And you have to have some other mechanism
other than just force on force to try and convince
a power like China not to do it. There's got

(25:58):
to be some economic, you know, approach that you take.
There's got to be some political approach you take. You
in the back and who knows what's going on in
the back rooms. I mean, that's that's where the rubber
hits the road. It's not what you see, it's what
you don't see, and who knows. But unfortunately, while it
might be comforting to say, well, you know, Trump's in

(26:18):
the back room, really you know, showing China why they
can't do this. He's not he's in the front room
tweeting with Elon last.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, you know, I don't. I can't really don't. Yeah,
there's not much to say about that. I mean, it
is at this point, it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
They need to they need to, you know, just figured
out or not figured out either way. I mean, I
don't think it. I don't think it matters in the
grand scheme of things. Well it might, I mean they
could could. I don't think the Chinese. I mean that
your your your sole hope was always the hope during

(26:56):
the cold where it remains hope today. Your sole hope
is that cooler heads will prevail. Right, So when some crazed,
hawkish member of some government.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Says, you could say, gentlemen, well it could be it
could be Russians, could be us. I mean, when when
someone says, let's just newke them, that's the way to
do it, you got to hope there's somebody else in
the room who goes, well, he time out right, like,
we are not going there. We can we can shoot
hypersonic missiles, you know, we can engage in conventional warfare

(27:30):
if that's what we want to do. We're happy to
do it, but we're not going to start lobbing nukes
because that doesn't go anywhere good. And that's that's the hope, right.
But I don't I don't have any insight in any
of this beyond what anybody else does.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
But I mean, it.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Certainly appears like China is prepared to take Taiwan, and
they have flat out said that island belongs to us.
We're going to do it now. I don't know why
other than just pride, you know, just national pride, they
give a shit about Taiwan. I mean, someone could obviously correct.

(28:10):
Maybe there's something in Taiwan, you know, some natural resource
or whatever that they do have stole.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
An intellectual property in Taiwan.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I mean you and I can tell you that, but
I you know, they they don't need it. I mean,
they don't, they don't need it. There's nothing there that
they need. I mean, this is just the same thing
as Hussein in nineteen ninety taking.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Ta Wait, Thank you. I couldn't come up with Kwait
but All Province nineteen.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
So yeah, I don't know why the Chinese other than
just they're bent out of shape about Taiwan and they
just want to, you know, show those folks what's up. Yeah, buddy,
I mean that could happen.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
You remember Curtis LeMay crazy Curtis LeMay. I do. Yeah,
So there's the idea. I know, I know you. You
probably taught you at the academy.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
But it was a Leakers. But yeah, I definitely know
who he is.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
But he if you listened to some of those Kennedy
tapes before the assassination of those meetings, like during the
the Bay of Pigs and then the Cuban missile crib,
especially the Bay of Pigs, you know, the Kennedy's like
he recorded all those things so you can go, you know,
listen to him. And there's one famous recording where Kennedy's

(29:23):
talking and then he hated le May and la May
wanted to just knew every I mean, he was one
of the guys who was talked about first strike is
the best strike. He freaking lunatic, but he uh, he's
talking to Kennedy during the Bay of Pigs like gright
after we you know, were was deciding whether or not
to provide the air support, which he didn't do, and

(29:44):
Lamy is like, boy, he's liked you. You are in
you are in you were in a pickle here, and
Kennedy stopped. Every kid, excuse me, what did you say?
But he said, you're in a pickle. It's a tough situation.
And Kennedy said, well, let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
You are right here with me, my friend, right here
with me. General. Is he a general or not? No,
he was a general right because he was absolutely was
a four star general. Yeah, but he Kennedy just stopped.
He's like, he's like, you, uh, you are right here,
right here with me, my friend.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
But he is buried at the Air Force guy me
in my alma mater. He's in the cemetery there.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Old pants.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
They called him, Yeah he was what was that?

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Was he the one like the character that Peter Seller's
movie was patterned after.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh crazy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because that was
another thing.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
They called him the big cigar, the big cigar, a
big cigar.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
God bless him, God bless him. Well bred.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Also, you know, Trump is not only focusing on these
issues in the Elon Musk Twitter war. It seems that now,
I mean, you know, they're they're sort of a couple
of weeks out from the lifting of the band on
Pete Rose and reinstating Pete the Late Great Pete Rose

(30:59):
dead now into the baseball eligibility for the Baseball of Fame.
He was reinstated into baseball. And it seems that Donald
Trump spent a lot of time the last couple of
months back channeling to Rob Manfred, who's the Commissioner of Baseball,
which is just I can't even do it.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I can't even.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Anyway, but anyway, Trump, So Trump, there's another success for
the Trump administration as they get the lifetime ban on
shoeless Joe Jackson and Pete Rose lifted.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Well again, I mean, at least he's focused on the
important things, right, I mean, it's a Hall of fame.
China can take Taiwan, Russia can take the Ukraine, we
can start lobbing nukes. But why the hell is shoeless
Joe Jackson on in the Hall of Fame? He should
be agreed.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
So he batted like six hundred in that World Series
he's supposedly threw.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, I don't know. I've never really understood how you
throw something about six hundred.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
But I you know what, I'm not an Expertana.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Well, that's the other thing I never got get the whole,
the whole Pete Rose thing too, because he bet on
his team. He never bet against his team, right, did
he bet against this team?

Speaker 4 (32:07):
I don't think that that was alleged.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I think, you know, the.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Full stop for baseball as an institution was.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
That he just bet on baseball. He bet on the
he bet on the Reds.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Though, well, I think when I think he bet on
you know, other teams, I mean, I think he bet
on games he wasn't involved in, you know, like the
you know, I don't know the Giants versus the Dodgers,
right eye, but or like.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
The Cubs versus the Cardinals could be Cubs, Cardinals Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
He but but that at some point. But when he
did bet on the Reds, he bet them to win.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
And so now let me tell you, I I have
a this is another thing maybe we should do because
I know we're talking about having James Vickers on to
talk about the Kevin Hanrahan incident, which I'm gonna get
indifferent to talk to. I'll sucked him at the debate
reunion coming up, right, and you'll you'll be uh, you'll be.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
In Nicaragua at the time. But I'll talk to him then, but.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I have a dear friend, Billy Martin Jr. Call him
a dear friend as a stretch, but an acquaintance who
adamantly believes.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
He's what. He's very duck.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, apple tree, Apple didn't fall far from the tree there,
But uh so so b m J. Billy Martin Jr.
Is adamant that Pete Rose should not be in the
Hall of Fame. And he has a very interesting argument
for it. He says, you know, he did bet on
the Reds, And I don't know if this is true

(33:46):
or not, but he said days where he bet on
the Reds, he would just exhaust the bullpen and then
and then the next day wouldn't bet on them. You
let the start to go like editings and just get shelled.
And I don't know whether that's true or not. I mean,
BMJ is much closer to the sport of Major League

(34:06):
Baseball than I am. I'm at this point boycotting Major
League Baseball because every time I turn.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
It on, it's like crazy, we can't do anything.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
We can't devor as won't play first base, and you
can't get the guys up from the minor leagues because
they have to play Trevor's story. Who's abouting like one
hundred a buck twenty But anyway, that's a right. But anyway, BMJ,
it's a different podcast, Yeah, BMJ, And listen. Another thing, think,
speaking of BMJ, Billy Martin and George Steinbrenner could be

(34:38):
akin to the Donald Trump Elon Musk feud if you
just dialed back the clock fifty years now. The difference
is neither of those guys were president of the United States.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Or had nuclear weapons or had nuclear weapons.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, and you know, and then, Brad, I'll tell you what.
I will be very honest with you, and I know
you don't want to hear this, but there are a
lot of people that would say that they would.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Like nineteen seventy five, seventy six George Steinberger to have
those nuclear codes.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Well, I think you're right about that statement.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
There are Curtis May would enjoy working for George Steinberner.
The two of them, old Iron Pants and Big George
there would have made a hell of a team. Now,
you know, we'd all be living in a nuclear desert
if that were the case, and it'd be something out
of a bad apocalyptic movie. But again, there'd probably some

(35:33):
folks who like that. There are there's always someone who
thrives in every environment. Right, you look at a situation
you say, oh, thank God, I'm gonna have to deal
with that, And there's some you know, jack hole over
there just giddy as can be to be involved in it.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah. So, I mean there would have been there would
have been somebody who liked it.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
But I I for one, am glad that at least
at this point, at the recording of this podcast, we
are not.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Living in a nuclear desert.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Now, by the time it makes it out into the wild,
who knows, it's hard to handicap.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Brad a couple more things before we go. One.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
The the big Minnesota State softball Championship is uh underway.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I think it's over now.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
And Marissa Rothenberger of Laredo, Laredo of of Minnesota but
White Bear Lake, Minnesota, through a complete game, hit two
doubles in a home run in the in the victory.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
M hm. It's just it's just destroyed the record books.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
And of course the interesting thing about Marissa is that
she is a man, so once again another dominant win for.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
A man and woman sports.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, she was in in in Minnesota as you know
with Mike Waltz is the he's the governor, Mike Walls,
Tim Walls.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Who's Mike Mike Wallas is the guy who was the.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
National security advisor to uh Trump who put everything on
Reddit and then got fired.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, Tim, Tim Walls, he uh he.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I guess they have a law in uh Minnesota where
if you want a new birth certificate you can apply
for one. And Marissa, whose birth name was Marco, was
issued a new birth certificate showing that he was born
female and so the original name was Charlie Dean and

(37:37):
changed the name from Charlie Dean to uh Maarissa. But
now Marissa is the most dominant softball player in the
history of women's softball in Minnesota and the history of
the state.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Well, I mean you get what you get, big one.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
I mean I I I the thing that I asked
myself constantly when this issue arises, which unfortunately it just
it will not go away. Right, you got California state
high school track and field championships and some dude wins that,
and then you got this.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Is is everybody happy? Right? Like? This is what you got?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
You you voted for you stomped around and said this
is what you wanted, and so now are you enjoying?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I mean sports is nominally for.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Two things, right, I mean we engage in sport either
as a competitor in order to compete and measure yourself
against others in this.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
You know, friendly.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Conflict, right, yeah, on the fields of friendly strife. And
the other one is for entertainment purposes, right, so that
people can watch it. And I think, you know, for
being honest, you say, I'm watching it because I want
to see competition.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I want to see.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Fair competition in this friendly conflict that I happen to
enjoy baseball, football, track and field, softball, whatever the case
may be, right, I mean that's it. We don't you know,
we don't generally compete in sports for fitness purposes, right.
You train to be fit for your sport and then
you went. But in the competition, it's about competing, right.

(39:19):
The training is over. You're either fit or you're not,
and we're going to see who wins. And you absolutely
blow both of those things.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Entirely out of the water.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
When there's not really a fair competition, but the whole
thing is skewed in one direction or another, which is
you know, ironically, you can go right back to why
Shoeless Joe Jackson p Rose are not in the Hall
of Fame because of that, right, because they have been
accused of skewing what is supposed to be a fair

(39:52):
competition that is both you know, satisfying to engage in
and fun to wat And when you put a dude
in girl sports, you get something that is not satisfying
to engage in and not fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
So why are we doing this? And if your answer is.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Well, we need to stroke the egos of these people
who are dudes meeting in girls sports, then that's just
a very bad answer.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I mean, it's just a very bad answer, right.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
I mean, if you watch some dude smack around a
child and you become disgruntled by this, as you should,
and you approach the scene as you should, and you say, hey, Bud,
what's up with that? And he goes, I just felt
like doing it. I don't like this kid, and it
makes me feel good to smack them around. And you

(40:57):
then say, well, say that again, and he says, no,
this makes me feel good.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
It's about me.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I realize I'm beating a child. But ignore the child.
That's not the issue. The issue is what do I want?
What in my little heart of hearts is going to
make me feel good? And what makes me feel good
is smacking around this child. And then you say, oh, okay, Well,

(41:26):
I didn't realize that it made you feel good. I
didn't realize that you identified as someone who enjoys smacking
around a child.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
But now that you've explained that, pray, carry on. Well
I don't understand it.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Well, Brat, I give you Lily Tino Contino, who is
an online influencer, a former football player who is now
transitioned to be called Lily, recently went to disney World
Walt disney World, the happiest place on Earth.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
And this is a guy in a in a halter
top and at least one of the days and the
dress and the who just wandered into every ranked every
woman's bathroom at Disney World and took photos like it
posted them online.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I just sent that to you in the chat.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
And uh, I mean, this is a grown ass man
right who's walking around Disney World. Should be arrested for
doing this, by the way, but he's in there with
women and kids and girls, and he's like taking selfies
in the in the in the in the in the
in the mirrors and harassing weight staff from misgendering him.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
It just just you know, bottom of the bottom of
the barrel.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
But that that's it. I don't have much more. I mean,
this is it. This is It makes me yearn for
the days of Hulkgan and Macha them. But if if
you don't have a rift like that, you can't end
up with like, you know, where we are.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Today off, yeah, yeah, And it would be too bad
if we couldn't wind up where we are today with
you know, dudes claiming to have been someone you know
says hey dude, and they're like, no, you've misgendered me. No, no, no,
you misgendered yourself and then expected me, who's never seen

(43:20):
you before, to know that you've done that. And then
you want me you are going to accuse me of
misgendering you, right, so you are to look at you.
You are clearly a grown ass man. And so I
don't know you've had him. I've never met you, I've
never seen you before, but you are clearly a man,

(43:40):
and and we have some social interaction, and there's the
need for me to use some sort of gendered pronoun
or whatever, and I use the masculine, and then you
flip that out because unknown to anyone, certainly including me,
you've decided you're a girl. You've missed gender to yourself,

(44:01):
and now you want to accuse me of being some
bad actor because I didn't know that, right, I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
That's crazy, ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
That's like walking up to an Uber driver and who's
driving a Chevy suburban and getting in and saying, hey,
nice suburban, and he flips the f out and tells you, no, no, no,
this is a Hyundai and accuses you of being a cruel.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
You know, vehicleist. Right.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
You You have purposefully hurt my feelings by referring to
my suburban as a suburban when it should be obvious
to you that I consider it to be a Hyundai.
So if that were to happen to you, just get
out of the suburban and cancel your Uber and get
another one, get a lift or something. Do that call

(44:53):
a cab whatever I happened to calling you a cab
cab like a man.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I don't have those anymore. Gypsy cabs maybe, but that's bad,
too bad. I liked calling a cap.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, well there it is breadth. There it is hi
yah yah yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
I mean at this point, there's really there's really nothing
else that you can do. I'll tell you what we
haven't done in this entire episode. I have not misgendered you.
You have not misgendered me.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
No, sir, that that is a win.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
And you know, we have hopefully pulled back the curtain
on why the president of the United States and a
powerful international industrial magnate should not get into a Twitter fight.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
And but what else have we done.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
We've we've sort of must pull back the curtain on
you know, why nuclear war would be a bad thing
and we should try to avoid it.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
And we but we did it in forty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
And the closest we've come brad to nuclear conflict in
the last fifty years is when the Mega Powers wrestled
at SummerSlam with Zeus.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
That's right, and unfortunately I wound up with the eventual
demise of Miss the lovely Miss Elizabeth. And I mean again,
the resilience podcasts. I understand Smith, you're trying to figure
out which one to listen to, but who is doing
what we're doing in the space if we didn't know one,
nobody right, and again, we will do it again, just
to prove that this isn't If this is your first

(46:14):
time listening, this is not something, and you're saying self,
man like, this is pretty good.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
We're gonna do it again next week, damn good. Right
here on IP frequently.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
This has been IP frequently, once again, clearing a forest
of lies with the machete of truth.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
You're welcome.
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