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August 5, 2025 44 mins
Ep. 295 - Death, Taxes, and Alien Probes

A Florida school board member gets (virtually) body-slammed by Hulkamaniacs after celebrating Hulk Hogan's passing on social media—proving that even in death, the Hulkster still knows how to lay the smackdown. Meanwhile, Trump's economic winning streak continues as trade deals stack up faster than Jim Cramer’s false predictions. But the real showstopper? A tenured Harvard professor claims a comet hurtling toward Earth is actually an alien probe that's been traveling for 800 million years just to get a peek at our solar system. Brad breaks down the astronomical stupidity of this theory while David contemplates whether this is exactly why federal funding to Harvard should be cut immediately. It's another episode where the hosts clear a “Dark Forest” of lies with the machete of truth—and remind you why you should never trust anyone just because they appear on a screen (or a podcast).
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In these bleak days, humanity is at a breaking point.
Economies are tanking, the woke mob is canceling everything, and
the little guy who's just trying to run a small
business is getting screwed from both ends. But not all
is lost. Amidst the chaos, two men offer up their

(00:26):
voices in the darkness, dropping two thousand pounds laser guided
truth bombs on today's lunacy, introducing the Sirens of Sanity,
David Pridham and l Bradley Sheaf.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Brad I'll tell you what one of my favorite songs
of all time Satisfaction Guaranteed by the Firm fronted by
one Chris Slade. And you'll remember Chris Slade was a
i want to say, second round pick of the Patriots
out of Florida back in in the middle of the
belichicker when Belichick couldn't pick for poop, and he used to.

(01:14):
He was terrible. He couldn't make a tackle in the game.
But he would like once in a while, he'd find
a nut and he'd and he'd be like thirty yards
down the field and get dragged, you know, for a while.
The running back would get tired and go to bounds
and then Chris Slade would do this little dance and
his nickname was the Undertaker.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Chris Slade in the firm is a different guy, and
he was the drummer. So Paul Rodgers was fronting the
band's kind of a super band, but he had Paul Rogers,
who you'll remember from Bad Company, and Jimmy Page who
was the guitars for led Zeppelin, Chris Slade on drums,

(01:52):
and so, you know, like I said, kind of a
super band and satisfaction guaranteed, I think you know. I
mean that should almost be our theme song.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
But anyway, here we are. We're back better than ever.
Not quite the dog days of summer yet, but they're coming.
I can hear them nipping at our heels, barking, panting maybe,
but exciting times here across the globe. Lots going on.
Of course, we've had a lot of people reach out
after our episode last week, which could only be described

(02:21):
as sort of a wake for some of the icons
of the nineteen eighties. So we're not going to really
dwell on metal that. We'll probably talk about it a
little bit, I would do, knowing us, we would probably
talk about a little bit. But first this is David
Pridham and bradshef on the iHeartRadio Podcast Radio Network. And
of course you can get us anywhere that you consume podcasts, Apple, Google,

(02:47):
the Twitter, anywhere anywhere, but we prefer you go through
the iHeart Podcast Radio Podcast Network. Why I'm not sure,
but we've been asked to say that. So we do
remember to describe, rate, review, recommend, and then reflect and
then do it all over again whenever you listen to
the podcast. And what we wanted the number is to

(03:08):
spike a little bit. So if you have to create
what would you say, Brad, five to ten to fifteen
fraudulent accounts that would work for you.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, it's fine. I mean, they don't even have to
be fraudulent. You're allowed to create as many accounts.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
As you want. This is a free country.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
And if you want to create ten to fifteen various
accounts so that you can download our podcast.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Again and again and again, you're allowed to do that.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
You can even make a T shirt for yourself that
says I have fifteen accounts, all of which I use
to download the same podcast. And people may look at
you askance, but you will not be subject to arrest.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
But as far as weverurage people to do it, as
far as we know at least not now. A couple
of years ago, possibly and probably would have happened, but
who who really knows. I did want to give an update, Brad.
Remember I talked a few weeks ago about that our
son Noah loves the Disney Yeah, even though it's it's woke.
But I don't think he cares about that. I'm not sure,

(04:11):
but I don't think he cares about that. No, he doesn't,
but he loves, he loves everything Disney. And so I
purchased for his birthday, which is in December. For this
birthday coming up, this this Disney model of Disney World,
which includes you know, air quotes, working monorails and boats

(04:33):
and trains, and then all these different figurines you set
up so you have like the Magic Kingdom and the
Epcot Center and the Animal Zoo and the hotels have
all of it goes on this base. And I ordered
this from the Land of the Rising Sun, Japan, one
of your favorite places on Earth, and it came to

(04:56):
me and I've slowly been working my way through it,
and so far I haven't been able to get it
to work.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
But ironically, even though you ordered this thing in the
month of June, because I recall when you told me
that you had ordered it and actually sent me some
pictures of it, you did not give yourself enough time
between June and December to put that thing together.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
No, no, I didn't. It's and I've got all they've
They've sent me about fifteen photographs of how the little
tiny wires get set up give this bass, and then
you put the top on the base. But the top
of the base is connected to all the wires have
to be connected for the damn boats and the trains
and the mono rails to work.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Sure, and so I.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
And the sound, there's sound, but I've got it all sounds.
So you have listen, let's talk for just a second.
Set aside the complexity of the Disney WORL thing for
just a second. Complex and you you have been a dad,
okay for ten years, over ten years, frankly, a little
bit over ten years. You have been a dad, and

(06:09):
yet you acquired a toy for one of your children
that makes noise.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh, it's one of many, it's one.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Of I'm aware of that. I've been in your house.
Why would you add to the cacophony.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, the good news is, Brad, it's supposed to make noise,
but when you plug it in, it'll make the noise
and everything and it lights up to it lights up,
and then after like ten seconds it stops, right, everything stops.
And so they told me I needed a step down transformer.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh yeah, don't but yeah, yeah, that's a good Yeah
it's Japan, different frequency, Moody, You're gonna blow that whole
thing up, and all your money and time and effort
and frustration and et cetera will have gone to waste.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
So I got this step down transformer and I plugged
that thing and plugged it into that thing, then that
thing into the wall, and it still does the same
thing ten seconds and stops working.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
And he thought, well, no pun intended, but you may
have been taken for a ride here.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, but I mean, if I was gonna be taken
from a ride for a ride, how would it why
would it work at all?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, I mean, what's more frustrating when it doesn't work
at all and you can just kind of scratch it
and go, well, this is just a hugg jog, or
when it lures you in for ten glorious seconds of
miniature Disney World excitement, and then you know, in the
eleventh second just leaves your hang and just leaves.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
You there droopy and morose.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Dopeys.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, well, I mean that may or may not be.
I don't know what to tell you there, buddy. It
does sound like it is, you know, experiencing some you know,
it's overheating or there's a a you know, safety mechanism
in there somewhere that goes, oh, wait a minute, we.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Don't want to blow the whole thing up. We're just
going to shut it down.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So, I mean, I also be that one of the
little wires of the fifteen wires is not plugged into
the right spot. I could also be that. So and
it's just the problem is I have big hands, and
so they don't exactly fit. And then you, if you
you have to, the wires are just long enough to
reach the little you plug about. Yeah, and so you

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have to. And it's just it is just one of
the worst decisions I've ever made. It's just sitting there
and it's constantly tormenting me, right, constantly tormenting me. It's
just I just don't think it's gonna work out. But anyway,
one thought is to ship it to you so you
could put it together.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, buddy, I mean it is possible. One might even
go so far as to say probable, given that my
wife and your wife are coordinating at this point on
all things, you know, baby stuff, which by the way,
you may want to wait into to make sure you
take the opportunity to you know, sort of clean house

(08:59):
if you will. But that's superate podcast. The baby stuff
podcast is different Tuesday afternoons at five, But that it
is possible that I will be coming out there and
then you and I could sit down together as a team.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
You know, let's let's move on. This is not this
is not helping. Just to say that in terms of
the ability to return this via the eBay return system
to the Land of the Rising Sun, that that ship
my friend has sailed.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Not worried about it. We get it fixed.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Mm hmmm. Anyway, a couple of things going on here
this week. First of all, just following up on last week,
have you heard of Sarah Rockwell.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Sarah Rockwell not my knowledge.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
She is a Florida County School commissioner in Suffolk County, Florida,
and she's a school board chair, not the commissioner of
the chair. After hulk Hogan died, she tweeted, oh no,
did Hulk die. One less maga person in the world.
I don't care, and then she said some other things,

(10:11):
and then within two days she was forced to shut
down her Twitter account because of the hulky maniax rising
up in her face. And then she had to issue
a one two three four paragraph apology to hulk Hogan,
his family, and his legion of Hulkamnix. So that even
with the Hulk gone, Hulkimenius still survives.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Well and will for decades to come. I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
But this is just one more example of I know,
I talked about this a lot, and I realize that
I'm in the you know, just amazingly small minority of
people who not only don't do social media now but
never have.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
But this is again, like.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
If you think things like that, Okay, so you know
you're you're just there's something wrong with you, right if
a person dies, and even in Hulk's case, I mean,
it was far from a tragedy. I mean, he lived
a good, long life. He accomplished many of the things
I'm sure he wanted to. I'm sure, if he were
able to, he would tell you, Hey, listen, you know
I had a good hot run. I didn't necessarily want

(11:18):
to die, but you know, I had a good hot run.
So but even in that circumstance to sort of crow
over the death of a human being.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
There's something wrong with you.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
And then to get out your nubby little thumbs and.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
And BANGMBS by the way, I mean, there's a shock,
but good.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Guess yeah, and then you know, bang that into your
little mobile computing device and then hit send and then
kind of smirk like, oh, you know, I've shown the
rest of the world what a woke, you know, virtuous
person I am.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
You're not own.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
There's not only something wrong with you, you're a dope.
And therefore, again, no matter what you feel about Hulkog
and Maga politics, whatever, this guy got exactly what she
deserved for her actions and her sentiment, which is just wrong.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
And I would be saying the.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Same thing if it had been someone who was a
conservative wacko as opposed to a liberal wacko and who
was crowing over the death of some you.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Know, leftist.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
It's got nothing to do with the actual politics. It's
got to do with the fact that you were crowing
over the death of a human being and not only
did that, and then we're you know, thought, what am
I doing? I'm embarrassed that I even had this thought. No,
you publicized it, So you are a dope and you

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deserve what's coming to you.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
The best part of it is she had to issue
this apology, take down the other tweets, their exes whatever
they're called. I don't know what they're called. And then
she had to enter some sort of anger management deal,
which is just the best. And you should apologize to
his fami, Hull Cogan, his family, all his family. It's

(13:15):
just nothing's better. And you know what that that, in
and of itself leads you to the realization that America
is back. When someone like this just gets shut down
and forced to publicly grovel at the feet of Holt Cogin,

(13:36):
just absolute, absolute, what a country we live in.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, Yeah, she got what she deserved. I hope that
she learned something from it. My guess is that she's
not going to. But my fervent hope for her is
that she actually did honestly say to herself many that

(14:00):
was not just not that she's upset that she got
caught right, that's very common, but that she actually says
to herself, Yeah, that was that was a bad move.
That reflected poorly on me. I should not be thinking
things that way, thinking things in that about things in
that way. But my guess is that she didn't. I
guess said she's she thinks that she's the wronged party

(14:22):
here and she's.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
A she's a pig. But in any event, one of
the other nice things I saw in the wake of
all Kogan's passing was this meme that showed him entering
heaven and waiting for him were some of the great
wrestlers of the past. Andre the Giant, the Macho Man,
Randy Savage, Roddy Piper, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Roddy Roddy Piper,

(14:49):
and then Peanut the Squirrel was there. I gotta find
this and said he but it's just like one of
the greatest greatest things of all time, Hulk.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Was, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
But anyway, that that is what it is. And then
we found out this week that Hall of Famer Ryan
Sandberg passed away. So another eighties icon MVP nineteen eighty
four Second Basement, the Cubs made the Playoffs were supposed
to be the World Series that year, and they lost
to the Padres, and the Padres get smoked in the

(15:18):
World Series by your Detroit Tigers.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
You know what, I remember the Cubs not making the
World Series simply because that was still during the what
over one hundred year period of time when they had
not won a World Series, and you know, so them
knocking on the door was a big deal. And so
I remember the fact that they did not get into
the World Series.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Remember the fact that the Detroit Tigers beat the Padres
that year.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
That was the year Detroit started some crazy twenty and
oh or something and Jack Morris won the cy Young
and Kirk Gibson the MVP. It was a good Lou
Whitaker and Trammell was on that Delance Paris was on
that team. Good team.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, no, that was a good team. And Sparky Anderson
was the manager.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And you know what was interesting that year, he was
like forty something.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Sparky Anderston.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I just remember him being like one hundred and
ten years old and you know, crustally walking out to
barket Umpires and yeah, I also love her from that
era well as far as I know, But I also
remember for that era that one of my favorite signs
in all of the sporting world existed in the old

(16:29):
Detroit Stadium. On the door to the visitors locker room
there was for years there was a sign that said
Visitor's locker room, No visitors allowed, which that puts you
in kind of a weird conundrum as the visiting team. Now,
obviously I think the intent there was to say, you know,

(16:50):
no visitors other than the actual visiting team, But it
is an odd thing to put on a sign and
hang on a door and then leave there for you know, years.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
But in any case, he was fifty years old in
nineteen eighty four where they won that title.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, younger than both of us currently are today. And
he looked like a dang I mean, he looked pretty
pretty old Marquie.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Anyway, God God bless his heart. But Ryan Sandberg rip,
that's that is. And he was young twos in sixties.
He was not old next but tired of winning yet.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
The trade deals are stacking up. In the past few days,
President Trump has negotiated successfully a trade deal with the
Land of the Rising Sun, Japan, and that actually exempts
the big piece of electronics that I that I purchased
from tariff, So I appreciate that. Well, it doesn't work,
but that's we talked about that. And then he did

(17:51):
a big deal with the EU, which is interesting, and
the stock markets hitting all time highs, and there was actually,
you know, Jim Kramer on CNBC, I do. He he's
one of the guys that has been vocal in his
criticisms of Trump. He you know, said, these tariffs are

(18:12):
not going to work. There's going to be a recession.
You're going to see more inflation and all this stuff,
and so inflation relative you know, year on years, everything's
going down, and uh so, so that's you know, I
think that's one thing that's that's interesting. And in addition

(18:34):
to that, you see these amazing results of the market,
and then the the the deficit is shrinking because of
the tariffs that are being collected. It doesn't it just
doesn't seem like prices are going up that much. Right,
they may be going up here or there, but it's
not a universal fifty percent hike in in this and that.

(18:55):
In fact, prices here on ear going going down. So
so Kramer gets on the air and he just he
dropped an F bomb and he said this f an
economy is doing so great. He's like, I was wrong,
And there are a bunch of these guys now are
coming out and saying I was wrong. And Trump seems
to know what he's doing. I mean, whether he does
or not, I'm not I'm not sure, but there's there
seems to be more of a consensus building that the

(19:18):
administration knows what it's doing in terms of the economy.
And then there's sort of the three dimensional chess aspect
of this, where Trump is using these rate changes or
the potential interest rate changes to try to pay down

(19:39):
or reduce the national debt, which is which has happened
over the last few months. So I think all this
is pretty pretty interesting, and I think it gives credence
to the thought that in this administration he's put together
a team that's much different than the team that he
put in place in the last administration, primarily based i

(20:00):
think now on his experience with the Cretans in Washington,
d c.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
But I mean, I think you're a hundred percent right,
and you are one hundred percent right about that. That
say what you will about Donald Trump and his you know,
inner circle. But they figured it out that their main
mistake in the first regime was, you know, they left
too many of Obama's people in place that were just

(20:27):
you know, undercutting left and right everything they were trying
to do, and they didn't pick the right people. But
another key lesson here, which we just seem incapable learning,
I think in Western culture in general, maybe worldwide, but
certainly in the United States. And I don't get this
because TV has been around for so long and now,

(20:47):
you know, not just TV in the sense of the
big things sitting on the entertainment center, you know, in
your living room that we had as children, but just
whatever media display you're using, is that Originally you know,
back in the day, in the fifties and the sixties,
maybe even the seventies, you know, it was reasonable to
sort of be awestruck by a personality that appeared on

(21:10):
your television screen, right because there was just you know,
there were not a lot of them. There were only
three channels, so you know, there wasn't a lot of
opportunity to be a TV personality or media personality, and
so to be one was a big deal. And you know,
there's sort of this subconscious effect that if you were
seeing someone appear on your television set, that they must

(21:32):
be somebody and they must know what they're talking about, right,
And that is it may have never been the case,
it is certainly not the case now right now. That
every lunatic can have their own TikTok channel. The mere
fact that someone is appearing on it before you on
a screen does not give them any credibility.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
And you got to ask yourself.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I don't mean to pick on old Kramer, and God
bless him for being willing to admit he was wrong.
There are many many people who would.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Not do that.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
But understand that Kramer is being presented to you on
a two dimensional media surface, not because he's necessarily an
expert in macro economics. He's almost certainly not right. He
mean to know something about personal finance, the way the
stock markets work, at least I hope he does.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
And so that's kind of his job.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
He's on the screen in front of you because he
is an engaging personality that has the ability to roll
up his sleeves, wave his arm around, drop an f bomb,
and bounce from display to display such that you will
stay watching. And therefore the commercial dollars that underlie his

(22:46):
program will go up, and he will stay on and
you will stay watching, and the TV, you know, whatever
media outlet will make money, and the folks paying for
the commercials will nominally make money.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
But he's unhinged, she's a little unhaned. Well, that's something.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
That's the point, right, that's the point.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
He's on the screen in front of you, not because
he is worthy of listening to about anything financial. And again,
he may be in certain aspects worthy of listening to,
but that's not why he's on the TV in front
of you. There are lots of people who know more
about financial markets, the way they work, how to invest, macroeconomics,

(23:22):
fiscal policy, all these things. There are zillions of people
who know more than he does. He's on the screen
in front of you because he's entertaining. Remember that, right,
Remember when you are watching a screen that the person
who's on it in front of you is not there
because they're necessarily experts at whatever they're talking about. They're

(23:43):
on that screen in front of you because they're entertaining.
If you actually want to learn something, read a book. Okay,
read a book. You can actually find good information on
the Internet that are written by experts, but not by
going to MSNBC or CNBC or Fox or any of those.

(24:05):
You're not getting good information from any of those outlets.
You may be entertained, but you are not getting good
information from any of those outlets.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
And yeah, for definitely not.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
And and Trump has, I mean, look at his current cabinet.
There are some real experts. Again, you don't have to
like them. You can hate them, but there are some real.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Don't tweet about them. Don't tweet about them?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Well, I mean again, you go back to the am
I a dope? And one of the tests for that is,
has have I tweeted out some incredibly mean spirited, you know,
just reprehensible nonsense. And if the answer to that is yes,
well then you're dope. Okay, that's a test for that.
But whether you like them or not, Trump has real

(24:52):
expertise in his cabinet. And therefore, while I certainly don't
understand fiscal policy, I don't know whether terrifs work or
don't work.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I don't have any idea.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
I don't even know exactly what I've read some stuff
because I'm just curious.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
I don't even know exactly what Trump is.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Hoping that they would do or believed that they would do,
and why I don't even understand any of that. But
the net result would tell you somebody knew what they
were doing. Somebody knew what they hoped would happen and
is in fact happening because the economy is on freaking fire.

(25:32):
And again, you can hate everybody in the Trump administration,
but you cannot take away the fact that if you
have any investments at all, you're making money as a
result of what this administration has done. That's just that's
the bottom line.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, well, I mean it's interesting to interesting to watch
and if these trade deals are really lining up like
they say they are, they seem like general wins for
the administration. And you know what's left to follow is China.
But he actually did a did a visit to the
UK this week where he uh he met with the

(26:13):
UK Prime Minister. I guess whatever, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
And.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
That that deal's done as well, and so you know,
it's been a somewhat of a winning streak for for
old Trump. Enough he just gets those Epstein files out
and we figure that out, then will be in good shape.
Get those Epstein.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Files out, Yeah, what's the story with that.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
He said that they were going to release them, and
the the UH Attorney General said they were going to
release them, and then they said there were no files. So
it's kind of weird, seems odd. But it also seems
to me that if there was a bunch of stuff
about him and those files, Biden would have released them
right years ago. So I don't believe that. I think,
I think maybe there's just nothing there.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Who knows, Yeah, I'm I mean, but that's the thing
that people have to remember. I mean, effectively, fifteen minutes ago,
the left was in charge of.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
All of that.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
And there is no one that the left hates more
than Donald Trump. Right, they would take fifty Epstein's just
walking around on the planet doing all of the just
horrible things.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
That he did.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
They would happily have that if they could just get
rid of the one Donald Trump. And therefore, if there
was any derogatory information about Donald Trump available to the left,
especially if it tied him to a guy like Epstein,
they would have had that. They would have made a

(27:44):
movie about it, and they would have forced all of
us to go into the theater and watch the movie.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Right, like they forced all of us to get COVID shots.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Right, they would have said, he's an Epstein guy, he
went to Lolita Island, or he's on the low lead
an airplane, or whatever the case may be. They would
have made a movie. They would have mandated that every
American go to the theater and in their wallet, next
to their COVID shot card, have the I saw the
Trump tied to Epstein movie. So the fact that that

(28:17):
didn't happen is all you need to know to know
that there is no derogatory information regarding Donald Trump in
whatever amounts to the Epstein files or frankly anything else,
because the Left has spent years digging up and making
up anything they could to.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Be smirched Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
And so yeah, I mean if there were Epstein stuff,
if there was Ebstein stuff on him, it would be
out there.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
We would have seen it. Yeah, I think that's I
think that's right. So we'll we'll see about that. But
it's very interesting. Let me ask you this, Brad, have
you heard of We talk about this regularly, but have
you heard of Professor A.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
VI.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Lobe at Harvard Him and his team at Harvard.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Obe Avi Lob.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Wasn't there a famous attorney with the last name Lobe?

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Or am I thinking of somebody else?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I don't know. There could have been oh many Lobe.
You're thinking the MANI Lobe?

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Maybe I am Maybe I am no a VI Lobe.
I don't believe I've heard of.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Although the mere fact that he's at Harvard, which you know,
sadly for the Harvard dies used to you know, you
perk up your ears though something from Harvard. Now you're like, oh,
what's going to be rolling out of that place next?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, this guy is a full professor at Harvard and
he is a director of space research for the nonprofit
Initiative for Interstellar Studies. Over the years, he has suggested, let.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Me tell you why that's a nonprofit, because there's no
chance anything named that could turn a profit. So even
if they wanted to turn a profit, they couldn't do it,
so you might as well be a nonprofit.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think that's probably right. There's no profit turn there
unless there's some intergalactic deal, which we don't know about.
But he is one of the people. He's claimed that
to ten percent of the metal fragments in the Pacific
Ocean contain alien elements, and he a longtime proponent of

(30:18):
extra terrestrial life bread in outer space and beyond. And
he has conducted a research project as part of this
interstellar research platform that he has, and he has been
focused in fact on the comet three I Atlas, which

(30:38):
is a comet identified as one that is quote barreling
towards Earth this December. It's supposed to pass by Earth
by about ten million miles.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
But he has you'll be able to feel the breeze
in your hair.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, I mean, he has studied this extensively as part
of research at the institute, and he has noted that
this supposed comment now he don't notice, he doesn't say comment.
He says, supposed comment is on an extremely unusual course.
It'll take it close to three different planets before the Venus, Mars,

(31:18):
and Jupiter. And he explained that its course is so
rare that the chance of it being an actual comet
is less than point five percent. And he said, based
on those findings and others that he can't release, he
believes that three I Atlas is an alien probe sent

(31:41):
to this solar system by an unknown intelligence in the
galaxy or beyond. He also said that such a craft
and the beings or entities or things that control it
would have one of two motives bred one and I
quote would be harmless and the other could be hostile.

(32:02):
So one of two motives, and he said the consequence
is a quote. The consequences should my hypothesis turn out
to be correct, could potentially be dire for humanity and
would possibly require massive defensive measures to be undertaken, though
these might prove futile. He also said that it could
be non event he warned in his new study and

(32:24):
this is a study Brad of the three I atlas
supposed alleged comet, and he also is a proponent of
the dark Forest hypothesis. The dark Forest hypothesis, created by
the folks at the Inner Galactic Space Consortium that he

(32:47):
works at, assumes that other intelligent civilizations in the galaxy
would be hostile and likely view humanity as a threat
that needs to be attacked and eradicated. Historically, Lobe theorized
that the comet oh Mumara, which passed through our solar

(33:07):
system in twenty twenty one, was an alien probe because
of its quote strange cigar like shape, and so there
it is bred a lot of evidence there that I've
given you from a Harvard professor, tenured tenured professor at
Harvard thoughts on this are you? Are you concerned? I mean,
this December could be could be it according to Professor Loeb.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Let's let's break this down from everybody. Let's see when
I do it right here.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I'm just take it apartment, take it apart, that dissect it.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
So, first of all, for anyone who previously.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Was like, boy, I don't know if we should be
cutting the federal funding to Harvard, they might be doing
some good work there. Okay, that's that's over right. This
is what Harvard's doing is there. They're funding this lunatic.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Right, so let's we can blowbotic the global maniac brother maniac.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
So this so this, so this is good. Right.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
So we've we've been able to to the extent that
there is anyone who is like, ah, man, I just
don't know, maybe we should be federally funding Harvard. Now no,
we shouldn't. Here's why you know Exhibit A. We're done
here so we can put a pin in that. So
that's good, right, We've done that today. And let's thing
about what this guy is saying, Okay.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
So the the trajectory, which you know, extra.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Solar system objects, right, objects from outside of our Solar system,
they're in these incredibly long elongated orbits, right, that's math
several days they're they're they're in an or like I
just and maybe I'm missing something here. Maybe there's some
astrophysicists who can square us away. But the reason that

(34:57):
we know that these comments are coming, okay, it's because
they orbit the Sun. They are periodic, They show up predictably,
which is how this guy knows that it's coming and
knows what its trajectory is going to be. They sling
their way around the gravity well created by our son,

(35:18):
and then they head back out, and then in some
period of time they're coming back. So this is the
dumbest probe ever, if that's what it is, right, because
it just periodically swoops through and it does not take
the same trajectory with respect to the planets every time, right,
because the planets are moving, it's moving, the entire galaxy

(35:41):
is moving, and that has repercussions. And so in order
for this to be true, what would be interesting is
to know how many times this particular comment has slung
through our solar system, and this would be one of
you know, an exceptionally small number, maybe for the very
first time that it's come through the solar system that
we're aware of at this particular trajectory. So the professor's

(36:04):
theory would have to be, well, whoever these aliens are,
they've been waiting, you know, millions of years for this
particular pass of their of their probe. Right as it
goes around and then there's a long time, and it
goes around again, and then there's a long time, and
that goes around again. They've just been sitting out there going, yeah,
but in the four thousand and six hundred and seventy

(36:27):
second time it does that, we're going to get this
really awesome opportunity to fly by three planets, you know,
relatively closely.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
So that just makes no sense not to mention the fact.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
That wherever these alien beings might be from, they're not
from here, and therefore the any information that this probe
would send to them, unless they've you know, somehow figured
out how to make that information travel faster than light,
would take years, probably thousands of years to get back

(37:09):
to wherever they are, and at that point in time
be completely useless to them as.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Well, we'll be dead.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, there's any sort of strategic information right because it's
thousands of years old.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
And then then lastly, but I just want to do
one final thing.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Should I give you a couple more data points? Do
you want to make the final point?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Well, well, let me make this point and then we'll
see the data points.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
If there was an alien race sophisticated enough to send
a probe here with enough of a time horizon to
let it make you know, a kazillion lapse around the
solar system before it does anything useful, and then they
can hang around away for the information to get back.
When that information got back, it would be about us.
And we're not threatening to anybody because we can't get

(37:52):
out of our own way. Right Like, if you wanted
to destroy humanity and you were observing us right now,
what you would say is just them go.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Just let them go. They're doing a great.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Job of destroying themselves, just to don't touch a thing.
Just let humanity progress. So here's what I here's what
I be overly concerned. Here's what I've a few more
data points. There was a July tenth study in the
Astronomy and Astrophysics Journal, which found that three I atlas

(38:23):
I think it's three I thirty one something thirty one. Uh,
took about eight hundred million years to travel across part
of the Milky Way to reach our Solar system.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
It's twelve. Let's see what else we got here. In October,
it'll make its closest approach to a planet, coming within
point four units are astronomical units to the planet Mars,
and an astronomical unit, as you know, BRAD, is equal
to the distance between the Earth and the Sun, which

(38:55):
is ninety three million miles. So technically the this has
been in the Solar System for weeks after traveling eight
hundred million years across the Milky Way on its current trajectory.
Bread and this is what's most concerning You tell me

(39:15):
if this concerns you. But based on projections, it's expected
to pass by Earth on December seventeenth, twenty twenty five,
speeding through the Solar System at forty one miles per second,
and it'll come bright within two point four two point

(39:37):
four not two point four million, two point four astronomical
units of the planet Earth.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, something like two hundred some odd million miles.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Correct, and it took what'd you say, about eight hundred
million years to get here eighty one million years.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
In July tenth, study in Astronomy and Astrophysics found that
the asteroid the comment rather took about eight hundred million
years to travel across part of the Milky Way to
reach our solar system.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
So here's the thing you got to think about. I mean,
who's the poor bastard that caught the response.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
He's sitting in the you know three I at list
command post in a galaxy, you know, the the hostile
alien who sent this, and you know, they're putting together
this mission and they're going to, hey, we're going to
send this probe. We're going to shoot it over here
what we think might be a stellar system that has planets.

(40:33):
I can't really tell because we're eight hundred million miles away.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
But anyway, we're going to do that.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
And then hey, hey, Bob, you sit here and you
watch this monitor until it gets there, and then you know,
you let us know what's going on. And Bob says, well,
all right, you know, I work for the you know,
alien space pro authority here on this world. That kind

(40:58):
of sounds like my job I will do it. How
long am I going to have to sit here before
I get the information back? And the answer is sixteen
hundred million years? Yeah, because the probe's got to get
there and then the information's got to get back.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
So maybe maybe not a full sixteen.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Hundred million, you know, if the information comes back more
quickly than the probe itself got there.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
But but you know, somewhere around you know, a billion years,
You're you're gonna have to You're gonna have to sit there.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
But keep an eye on that screen because boy, oh boy,
when our probe gets to the solar system, it's gonna
be awesome.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, this guy's a dope.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
But I just sent you a study in the in
the chat. But it's interesting when you look at this,
it's pretty conclusive in my view, again, my my layman's
view and my read of this and looking.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
At some of these.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Formulas and distance from the Sun in time, I mean,
this is interesting stuff. Maybe you know, maybe we're doing
a disservice to this. Maybe we should lead with this
next time.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Oh maybe, buddy, maybe, I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Doctor Abraham Lowe, maybe we should have a lot hard
to say.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Well, I mean, I I if we can get this
guy on, we should definitely have him on because there's
some there's some questions we should probably ask into the
bottom of this thing. But I will tell you that
for myself, I'm not concerned. I'm not concerned there may
be aliens out there. I don't really have any idea.
I don't spend a ton of time thinking about it.

(42:38):
The distances of space are so vast and the timeline
so long, like the grounds, the polo grounds, Yeah, go
back and get So what these guys would need would
be the Willie Mays of intergalactic probes, you know, someone
who could just turn their back to the home planet
and run this sucker down. But I don't think they
have them, and so I'm not worried about it. And frankly, buddy,

(43:02):
I don't think anybody should be worried about it. But
to your point, you don't want to be overly casual. So,
as we always do on this very fine program, we
will keep one, you know, sliver of an eye on
good old three I at lists, just to make sure
you know there's there's no jack assery going on there
that we need to be concerned about. And I think

(43:22):
having said that, you know, we've we've done what we
came here to do. We've talked again about you know,
some eighties icons passing away. We've provided a warning that
you should keep your thumbs to yourself and you know,
not tweet out all of the just reprehensible things you think.
In fact, you probably shouldn't even be thinking them, and

(43:44):
maybe you should go get some help. We have also
provided a warning that just because you're watching someone on
TV doesn't mean they know what they're talking about. In fact,
probably means that they don't know what they're talking about
because they've gotten where they are because they are entertaining,
not because they are knowledgeable.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
And you know, we've given people a little bit of
a heads up.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
That there's a chance that some alien race decided to
you know, invest eight hundred million years worth of waiting
on getting something to come within two hundred million miles
of Earth. There's there's there's a chance that we covered
all of that, and we'll keep our finger on all
of that when we come back again next week.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Right here on IP frequently.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
This has been IP frequently, once again clearing a forest
of lies with the machete of truth.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
You're welcome
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