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September 4, 2025 41 mins
Ep. 299 - When Delusion Goes Postal

The Sirens of Sanity are back from summer break with a sobering dose of truth. David and Brad dissect how society's endorsement of reality-optional thinking creates a pipeline from gender dysphoria to school shootings, while the usual suspects immediately blame MAGA before facts emerge. Plus: Bill Belichick's UNC debut face-plant proves even football legends can't coach their way out of midlife crisis girlfriend syndrome, Arch Manning's performance leaves something to be desired, and Trump's Rose Garden stonework audit shows what happens when someone who actually built things runs the White House. Also featuring: Biden's auto-pen presidency legacy, NASA's asteroid fear-mongering for budget season, and why encouraging crazy people to stay crazy shouldn't surprise anyone when they graduate to homicidal crazy. It's 299 episodes of clearing forests of lies with the machete of truth - assuming that the asteroid doesn't find its way into Earth first.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In these bleak days, humanity is at a breaking point.
Economies are tanking, the woke mob is canceling everything, and
the little guy who's just trying to run a small
business is getting screwed from both ends. But not all
is lost. Amidst the chaos, two men offer up their

(00:26):
voices in the darkness, dropping two thousand pounds laser guided
truth bombs on today's lunacy, introducing the Sirens of Sanity,
David Pridham and l Bradley Sheef.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well, there it is, brad.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Everyone knows that that tune, Yes, the UNC North Carolina
fight song, the great UNC tar Heels who are embarking
on a new journey right there in the middle of
upgrading their football program to be a perennial top five
power and and yeah, so they're.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Look, they're after the races. They look good.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
The song is climbing the charts. So that's good. I mean,
it's big, that's huge. And I did not honestly, I
did not see any of the the first game, but
it didn't look like it necessarily matched. The result did
not match the expectations that were set.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Well, buddy, you know, I mean, if you're going to
be a perennial top five power. Maybe the way to
start is to just get schalacked by TCU and then
you know, you can look back on it when you
are a perennial top five power and say, look at
this giant hill we climbed. So maybe Belichick is crazy
like a fox, right, he's saying, you know, it'll be

(01:55):
that much sweeter when we get to the top when
we started out so low. But my guess is that
that wasn't the plan, and that perhaps you know, he's
spending a little bit too much time with his girlfriend,
who is some fifty years younger than he is.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
So yeah, I mean it's I sure hope it wasn't
the plan. But anyway, yeah, Bill Belichick, they they he's
gonna have the girlfriend up in the box with Michael
Jordan's sitting there.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's just you can't make it up.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm looking forward to I can kind of you know,
you pick up a book and you start reading it,
and you get into the first couple of chapters and
you kind of have an idea about what would happen
if your page to the end. I kind of think
this is not going to end well, and I kind
of think it's going to end with the girlfriend going
ballistic on the folks who run North Carolina, the reboard

(02:52):
of chancellors or regents or you know, the folks at
PepsiCo or whoever it is. You know, I think it's
not going to end. I don't see it any well.
It's my prediction, my bold first prediction of September twenty
twenty five is that this is going to end poorly.
It'll probably end swiftly, and it may very very well.

(03:16):
And this year, I mean, it is what it is,
and we'll see. We could be surprised, could be pleasantly surprised.
But I will say the other good thing that I
really enjoyed over the weekend was I didn't watch the game.
But you know, there was the Texas Ohio, yeah, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
State game, and you know everyone's been talking.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's been talking about this Manning kid, as if he's
like the next Peyton Manning or Brady or whatever. And
he plays at Texas, which is just just the worst.
But apparently he had a terrible game and apparently he
was the missing people all.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Did you watch the game?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I on foot while no, I unfortunately didn't because you know,
as you and I have briefly discussed. I was out
attempting to keep up with you know, green Berets in
the in the hills and mountains of Colorado for the
weekend because it was my oldest daughter's fiances batch their weekend.

(04:20):
And in you know, typical fashion for guys like him,
you know, there was no trip to Vegas, there were
no strip clubs, there was no drinking. There was just
you know, being in the woods as though we were
surrounded by the enemy. And so no, I missed the game,
and I am exhausted as a result of that. But
I did follow up on it because I was curious.

(04:42):
Krystal watched it and yeah, apparently arch Manning, you know,
the pressure got to the kid a little bit.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
So well, I think the funny thing was, I was
at the beach with the kids and I am you
start seeing you know, if you pull up Twitter, you
start seeing hundreds and hundreds of these tweets about arch
Manning and they're all in two different buckets right just

(05:12):
during the game, during the game. So one bucket is, well,
what would arch Manny be doing given his performance in
this game? And this is like during the game, if
he didn't have the last name Manning and didn't have
Peyton and Eli as his uncles. And you saw everything
from a guy filling popcorn at a movie theater and
put buttering it to a guy making burgers at a

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fast food place.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So that was one bucket, and then there was the other.
If arch Manning.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Was the dot dot dot bucket okay, and it's included
you know, it's not funny, but the Twin Towers and
the American Airlines flight going towards the Twin Towers and
they're missing wildly.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
And then it said nine to eleven if Manning was
the pilot. And then there's.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Another There was another one a picture of JFK like
a wrinkled face and gray hair, and it said JFK
if arch Manning was the shooter. Just you know, and
it just shows how great technology is that it's being
used for those those purposes. But I mean, you know,
it couldn't happen to a nicer team than NiCad guy.
I'm all, I'm all for it, and he's making like

(06:22):
sixteen million a year on the nil. That was the
whole point of his rant that I was starting. I
don't you know where it was going anyway, Well, that's
that's that. But that's it's that's our football talk portion.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Of the day.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
You know, while we were on a summer break, there
was a school another school shooting in Minneapolis. His monster
shot up a school chapel where kids were having him
back to school mass and I mean, you know, elementary
school kids, and then posted a bunch of videos posted
with this guy, guy who became a gal, was talking

(07:00):
about how the transition and probably I don't know, all
all sorts of stuff, wrote Trump's.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Name on one of the.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
One of the magazines, and all sorts of anti Semitic
stuff and anti black stuff on others. But just this
crazy hate mongering person shoots up a school. And then
what was interesting, and I don't know about you know,
I don't know much about this transitioning stuff, right, but
what was interesting is that people immediately came out, including

(07:31):
that Knitwi mayor of Minneapolis, the one that got down
on his knees and kissed the.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Lloyd George just a piece of garbage, go to piece
of garbage.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
He came out and he started talking about how no
one should attack the trans community. The mullah Omar, the
Taliban dude who's in Congress, who, by the way, has
a net worth of over thirty million dollars, of course,
going from zero to thirty million in the last couple
of years, came out, said it was a it was

(08:03):
not a transgender person that did the shooting. And then
remember Rosi O'Donnell.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Oh, yeah, didn't you go to Ireland or something? Yeah,
she did good to Ireland because Trump was making fun
of of her in front of the Irish Prime Minister.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
She did go, but she came out and she said
that the person that did the shooting. These people immediately
go and post stuff and listen, I'm all four posting
stuff like the JFK thing funny, you know, post it
the nine to eleven thing, not saying that nine to
eleven is funny, but the arch banning attacks are hilarious.
Keep posting those. But you know she gets up there
and she's like, well, you know the this is a

(08:40):
maga Republican who shut this up, and you know, just
completely wrong. The first inclination is to say whatever comes
to your mind, regardless of facts, and then the way
you want.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
The facts to be right, it's not even what first
comes to your mind, it's what you're hoping the reality
is because you don't care about the kids. You would
just love to be able to argue that, you know,
once again, Trump has done something wrong. It's reprehensible, it
really is.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, it's it's insane. It's insane.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
So they you know, then the mayor comes out and says,
people started offering their prayers, and he said, don't offer
their don't offer prayers, you know, do something concrete, which
I assume is to ban guns, right, which, you know,
again whatever, But it was just just the reaction to
these things is so polarizing. No one waits for facts anymore.

(09:31):
People just blurt out whatever, like a stroke victim, you know,
like just says the first thing that comes to their mind.
That's what That's what these people do, regardless of whether
it's grounded in the.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Truth at all.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
And and this, this situation was just horrific. Two kids died,
others are still in the hospital fighting for their lives.
It's it's just insane. But I don't know what is
going on in this world.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
It is it is in sane body, right. I mean
that that's the key to the whole thing, is that
we are we are encouraging crazy people in their craziness, right,
and that is always going to cause problems. I mean,
and and and you know, just to go back to

(10:24):
what you were saying about posting things for just a second.
It's it really is sickening when you think about it.
So Rosie o'donald doesn't know who the shooter is at
the time, right, But you see the left do this
all the time. Anytime there's a shooting anymore, they immediately
come out and and state that the shooter was a

(10:48):
right wing you know, typically white male, you know, Trump voter.
And they do that not just to influence people thinking,
but because that's what they want, right. They are happy
to allow for school shootings as long as the shooter

(11:09):
is a right winger because in their minds, the cost
is worth their opportunity then to harp on the right wing. Right,
you don't see them their first post is not, you know,
this is horrible, let's think about the families, you know,
what can we do in this country to reduce shootings?

(11:31):
Their first post is to fingerpoint, because that's what they
want to do, right. It is it is apparently based
on their behavior, worth the cost so that they can
point to finger and that is just reprehensible behavior. And
then you have the issue of, well, let's ask ourselves, Okay,
what would happen if someone says something that is crazy, right,

(11:57):
says I am biologically male, but I want everyone to
treat me as though I am female, to include allowing
me to use female restrooms and participat in girls sports. Right,
everyone has to warp their reality to my reality. At

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any point in the past, you would have said, wait
a minute, we're not going to do that, right, your
view of reality does not actually comport with reality, and
we're not going to do that, and we're certainly not
going to encourage it. Right. You know, if there's anyone
who loves you, hopefully they will help you get treatment

(12:40):
with respect to the fact that you are warping reality.
But we're not going to do it for you. But
we stopped doing that, right, And not only have we
stopped doing that, we don't just shake our heads and
walk away. We encourage it. We say no, no, you
run with your version of crazy. Okay, you take what
you want reality to be and you act as though

(13:02):
that's the way reality is, and we will cheer you
want to the point that we will ruin women's sports,
and we will make women feel uncomfortable in the restroom. Okay,
we will do all of that. We will cheer all
of that on so that you can have reality the
way that you want it to be. Well, then how
in the world can anyone take the position that them

(13:26):
then saying well, I want to kill people, and I
want to kill children, and I want to do it
while they're in church. I want to I want to
bar the doors so no one can get out and
just start shooting at children, because that's the way I
want reality to be. And everyone encouraged me in my
other just completely warped reality, so why shouldn't they encourage

(13:49):
me in this one? Right? I mean, that is a
lesson that you're teaching someone who is unhinged when you
not only allow them to continue to be unhinged unimpeded,
but you encourage them in being unhinged. Why should you
be surprised when they do other things that are unhinged.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Right?

Speaker 4 (14:08):
The lesson you have taught is that you being unhinged
is worthy of praise, and so that when they take
two steps in this other direction to do something that
is unhinged and it happens to be shooting at children
because that's what they want to do. And you know,
again you told them they can do whatever they want
to do. Then you suddenly act shocked like how did

(14:30):
we get here? But of course you don't want to
address the fact that it's a mental health issue. You
want to blame the inanimate object. That absence being picked
up by an unhinged person would have just laid where
it was for the rest of time. Okay, you are
not going to solve people shooting at innocent children by

(14:54):
blaming the inanimate object, no matter how unpopular that may be.
That's the truth. And if you want to address the
issue and look to be fair, and you and I
do try to walk down the middle here, there are
crazy people on the right as well, but they are
just as crazy. They happen to hold a crazy viewpoint

(15:14):
that is different from the crazy viewpoint this trans personneled.
But they are what's the common denominator, They're all crazy.
And if you banned the guns, if you did away
with the guns, if you somehow magically did away with gunpowder, right,
some substance that will explode and provide energy to a projectile,

(15:37):
if you somehow were able to do away with that,
these people would pick up rocks and sticks and knives
and whatever else and go do the same thing. So
and tell you address the issue, which is that we're
encouraging crazy people to be crazy, then you're going to
have these problems are going to manifest themselves in many way,

(16:01):
many of which are not as e grabbing and gut
wrenching as a school shooting, but still exist because we're
encouraging crazy people to be crazy. And when you do that,
you waive your right to act shocked and appalled when
they do something else that is crazy. That's just the

(16:22):
way it is.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
You know what's interesting, I've seen some of these taking
a step back from just the Minnesota thing. I've seen
some of these references to a common thread and some
of these mass shootings being that people are identifying as trans.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Have you seen that, Well, I know I have.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
I mean I haven't seen any research on it. I
know that this person was trans, and I know the
person was it North Carolina. There was another shooting at
a Christian school. I want to say it was someplace
in the South.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, this is Nashville twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
The shooter at the Covenant school was identified as trans
killed three children. I'm of Colorado Springs twenty twenty two.
A trans person killed five people at an LGBTQ nightclub Aberdeen, Maryland.
Twenty eighteen. A transgender male killed three people at a

(17:31):
right aid facility Denver. Twenty nineteen. One of the two
shooters was a transgender male, where one person was killed.
In the Iowa twenty twenty four person who killed one
person and injured six at Perry High School. People claimed

(17:52):
he was a transgender or transactivist. That's obviously, it's not
there's nothing scientific about that list I just read. But
that's what percent of the population is trans well.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I mean, it's minuscule obviously, But again you're you're dealing
with people who have decided that they will make up
their own reality. I mean, and again you can I'm
not qualified to comment on why they do it, and
you know, what motivates them and what's the best way

(18:31):
to help them. Maybe it is to accept them at
you know, some level, at whatever sex they want to be.
I don't know. I'm not a psychologist or not a doctor,
so I don't know. But what I do know is
that when someone who is male tells you you have
to act like I'm a girl, or someone who is

(18:54):
his female says you have to act like I'm a boy. Right,
then they are. What they are doing is saying I
don't want to live in reality. Right, It's uncomfortable for
me for whatever reason. Again, I'm not qualified to comment
on it, but it doesn't matter for the purpose of
the point I'm trying to make. You're dealing with a
person who has said reality is uncomfortable for me. I

(19:16):
don't like it. I won't live in it. And not
only will I not live in it, I will not
allow you to live in it. And I will jump
up and down and claim that you're a racist or
a sexist or transphober or whatever the case may be.
If you look at me and say, well, wait a minute,
you're asking me to participate in your warping of reality,

(19:37):
and I will not do that. I Am going to
live in reality, as uncomfortable as it may be for
me as well. Right. I mean. I don't think there's
anybody who goes through life and it's all rainbows and unicorns, right,
But most of us, when we bump up against something
that is a challenge, even a terrible challenge. We try
to push through it and find a way to manage
it inside of reality. These people are not doing that.

(20:00):
And what we have done as a culture is we've said,
we've you know, we've we've created the thought police who
have said, hey, listen, if someone wants to take a transposition,
you must support them. You must act as though they're
warping of reality. Is the truth?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Right?

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Is that? Is that? That? That is now the way
it is. They have simply stated something that isn't true.
It's demonstrably untrue, and you now have to act as
though it is true, right, and and encourage them not
just act as though it's true, encourage them to continue
wandering around in unreality. Well, okay, when you do that,

(20:41):
then you're again, I realize I'm saying the same thing twice,
but you're you're saying, Okay, you get to make up reality,
whatever it may be, and if people make you angry
and you want to shoot them, then you should just
go do that because that's your reality, that's your truth.
That's the right way, so go do it. So what
I'd be surprised if someone were to present evidence that said, hey,

(21:03):
it's just an astronomically statistically anomalous number of shootings are
done by trans people. No, I wouldn't, because I would say, well,
those are people who have decided to make up their
own reality, to make up their own truth. They've almost
certainly been encouraged by people in that behavior. And so again,

(21:24):
when it stops being about their sex and starts being
about who they want to kill. While you may consider
one far more awful than the other, they are the
same thing. They are someone deciding that they can make
up the truth, they can decide who's good and who's bad,
and if and if they decide someone's bad, they can

(21:44):
kill them. That that's the same thing. It's warping reality,
and so it should not come as a surprise.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, it's it's disturbing. I mean, until until we deal
with something like this head on, right, until we art
to actually address it, you're going to see more and
more of these I think, I mean this, and and listen, also,
I don't even want to get through this without talking

(22:12):
about the parents. I mean, the parents apparently enabled this
and and saw some of these disturbing videos and manifestos
and and didn't do anything about it. I think the
mother is like on the run right now and hired
a criminal defense lawyer. So the parents should not escape
responsibility for this that that that is definitely definitely not true.

(22:39):
So I think that's something that's going to be looked
at as well. I mean, it's a hard issue, but
it's also one that is now resulting in kids in
a safe space in a church getting showered with bullets
and and shattered stained glass. So it something's going to
be something's got to.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Be done here. Well, and you're not a parent, right,
I mean the objective that the description of someone as
a parent is someone who is raising a child, right,
someone who is creating healthy and appropriate boundaries, who are
saying this is right, this is wrong, this is the truth,

(23:19):
this is not this is how we do it. And
when you are just so bereft of a sense of
responsibility and you lack the courage and the wherewithal to
step in with your child, or worse, you encourage your

(23:39):
child in this behavior because it makes you feel good, right,
It allows you to go to your little tea parties
and talk about how woke and enlightened you are because
you have a child who is clearly incredibly disturbed and
you know, suffering from some mental illness, but you want
to encourage it because it allows you to go rus

(24:00):
you signal and talk about how woke you are. Then, yeah,
you're absolutely culpable in the behaviors of your child, whom
you are supposed to be responsible for. And the word
we use for being responsible for a child is parent.
We have a word for that, right, and you are

(24:21):
not a parent when you don't take that responsibility, and
you know it does it's again equally as reprehensible, but
not surprising that the mother's first reaction would be the
lawyer up right. I mean, it's just I don't even
know what you say about that.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, well, welcome to twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
At least we have the arch Manning thing to fall
back on, where it gives us a little bit of levity.
Speaking of which, going down at the White House recently
that you know, the President has completely redone the Rose Garden,
And if you heard.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
About that, completely redone the Rose Garden, the Trump.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
The Trump people, they've remodeled it, completely remodeled it.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
And I guess they've remodeled the Rose garden.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
They remodeled the whole Rose garden, and I guess as
part of this, they put in some new stone work,
and and you know Trump's a builder, right, that's what
he's done. So they put in some new stone work,
and apparently there was a gash in some of the
stone that was put down some limestone or something, and
so Trump had the all that because you know, they

(25:30):
have a couple of security.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Cameras at the White House. I don't know if you
know that Trump.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Trump got the people to bring them, the Secret Service,
whoever bring him this the footage, and he poured through
it until he identified the subcontractor the damage of the stone,
and then he, uh, he charged them for it.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
So you know, that's you know what Again, you know,
there would certainly be some percentage of people who, you know,
if Trump had literally saved buppies and baby seals and
small children, would say it was a terrible thing to do.
So we can set those people aside, and then there
will be others who will say, man, you know, maybe
best use of the president's time is not calling through

(26:09):
security video to make sure that you know, right is
done in terms of billing on the stone work. But
on the other hand, I mean, Trump is at this
point not really a home owner. I mean, it's not
fair to say that the president owns the White House,
but the president is responsible for the White House during
the period of time in which they reside there. And

(26:31):
as a tax payer, that's what I want to see.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Right, I'm fine with that.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
I want to see the person who is responsible for
the home going. Wait a minute, we got screwed, you know,
on this work, and I'm not paying. You would do
the same thing. I would do the same thing any
reasonable homeowner. If you paid for someone to do some
stonework in your garden and they screwed it up, and
then they presented you with a bill, you would say,

(26:56):
who wha, whoa. Look at this piece of limestone right here.
I'm not paying for that. And any reasonable contractor would say, well, yeah, okay.
I mean if that was our fault and you say, well,
there's no, If, my friend, there's no, if here's the video,
then you know this is the what you get.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
No, I think it's uh. I think it's great.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I'm all for it. And look he can do he
can he can walk in chew gum. At the same time,
he fired that woman from the Federal Reserve who lied
about our mortgage he's.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Literally going through and he's firing everyone on.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
These different boards who has committed mortgage fraud, which is
probably a good thing, right, So he's he's doing that.
Plus he's making sure that the taxpayer money is well spent.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
And then he gave this interview.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I don't remember to whom, but there was some group
in the White House and he was showing off the
Rose Garden and that's how the whole Rose Garden damaged
stonework came up. But then he uh, he started talking about,
you know, the Oble Office. He's got more presidential uh uh,

(28:03):
you know pictures up in the Evil Office. He's stacking
them all the way up to the ceiling. That so
it looks pretty good, yes, mate. But they somehow, somehow,
it came up about the Biden you know, because when
presidents leave, they get their portrait, get their of their
official government portrait and he uh, and the the current

(28:28):
president is responsible for consulting with the former president about
the portrait, and so that Biden is doing. They've got
someone painting Biden. But Trump during this interview said that, uh,
you know, he's he's he has got a hands on
approach even to that, and he has ordered the the artist,

(28:52):
whoever it is, and hopefully it's the person that did
the dogs playing poker because they were really good. But
he's ordered whoever the person is, whether it be you know,
the person with the dog's playing poker or probably not
Norman Rockwell because I think he's dead, but he's ordered
the person to include the auto pen in the portrait.

(29:19):
Dead serious, he's ordered, he said.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
He said, uh, what'd he say?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
He said, he's going to put it up on the
Presidential Wall of Fame walking into the Rose Garden, and he.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Would the auto pen would be probably featured.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
And then the the person who did the reported on
the interview said quote. It wasn't specified whether the whether
the portrait would be biden with the with the auto
pen or just the auto pen itself.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
So there you go. I just I mean it from
an entertainment perspective, you can't beat it. I mean, it's
where we've gotten ourselves again. You know, we say it
again and again, but where we've gotten ourselves in this
country is is crazy. But let me ask you a
serious question with regard to the autopen. They've been around
for a while. The autopens and all presidents use them, right,

(30:19):
I mean, because they sign all content crap. So, my
beautiful and talented wife is a volunteer in a program
called KASA, which is court appointed Special Advocates. So when
a kid is in the system right because their parents
are incapable of parenting them for one reason or another,
then you know, everybody has a lawyer. The parents have
a lawyer, the government has a lawyer, but the kid

(30:41):
that has a guardian and item. But it's it's not
really the same thing. And so this organization has been
it's been around for decades and basically people who are
cost is their job is to advocate for the child, right,
you know, not for the parents, not for the system,
but to make sure, if at all possible, that the
best outcome for the child happens. So that's great, right,

(31:02):
And she does that and she spends you know, a
ton of time doing it, and every year she gets
a certificate from the president, right, whoever the president may be,
for her volunteer time. I guess there's a number of
organizations that fall with under the under some kind of
an umbrella where the president recognizes, hey, you're volunteering, you know,
benefits the country. And I'm going to give you a certificate,

(31:24):
and there's there's lots and lots and lots of them,
is my point, right, I mean, there's probably millions of
these certificates that are issued every year to all kinds
of different volunteers. So obviously the human president is not
going to sit down and take months off of actually
being the president to sign millions of volunteer certificates, right. So,
I mean the auto pen comes in handy there, and

(31:44):
so my point is all presidents use them for things
hopefully like that. So what was the what's the beef
with Biden's use of the auto pen?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Well, I think the beef with with Biden and I
don't know much about it, but I understanding is the
autopen was used for more substantive documents such as pardons
and ah, the question is did what was he aware?
I mean because they tons of people, and you know
he did some of these pardons with not just his son,

(32:17):
but with others in his family and Fauci and and
all the members of like Liz Cheney. He gave them
blanket pardons. Right, I've never heard of it before, but
he gave them blanket pardons for anything they did within
a period of time, and it could be anything. You
could kill somebody, and theoretically, if it were a federal charge,

(32:39):
then you'd be you would you would not be subject
to prosecution. So, uh, the the the claim is my
understanding that the autopen was used for some of those pardons.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
And so the theory being that the actual president of
the United States at the time was one Joe Biden
had no idea that these pardons were being issued, that
they were just you know, someone was crafting them and
then someone was auto penning them and then suddenly they
effectively become law and that's it. And if you were

(33:13):
asked Joe Biden, hey, you know, did you pardon this person,
he would just look at you and go, I don't
not to my knowledge, which I guess doesn't come as
a surprise, because by the time Biden left office, he
was out of it. And to my knowledge, we have
not seen hide nor hair of the guy since he
left office, right, has he done any public appearances.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
He was out getting it now. He spoke at the
Bar Association thing a few months ago, and he was out.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Getting ice cream over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Well, so, so, I mean, did that bar association thing go? Fine?
Does he seem to have his wits about him or I.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Mean, it didn't seem any different than anything else he'd
done over the last four years. Well, that's I suppose
it could. It's going to be the eye of the beholder.
Do you think that he has WIT's about in the
last four years out?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, well you've had seen your own question, I guess
I am Finally, Brad.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
We are on the cusp of our three hundredth episode.
Right in the cusp, three thousandth producer is saying, it's
the three thousandth.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Episode, which is interesting.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
But there is a there's what you call a monkey
range thrown into the works in that NASA has warned
that a huge asteroid the set of a commercial jet
will potentially skim past Earth in the next twenty four hours.
It speeds of twenty eight thousand miles per hour.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Within forty five thousand kilometers. No, I'm sorry, it's gonna
be within thirty five thousand miles of Earth.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
So well, if it is arch manning the pilot, well,
if there's a pilot, I mean, this is this is
five eight.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
We have not talked about this before, but I mean,
you know, this could be we could be stuck at
two ninety nine if this thing does indeed collide with Earth.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
You know, I this asteroid thing is fascinating because we've
obviously relatively recently developed the technology to detect these things, right,
And I don't understand what NASA is doing with respect
to this. Okay, So you just got done saying this
thing is going to go whizzing by at a high

(35:36):
rate of speed, no doubt about it. But it's going
to be thirty five thousand miles from the Earth. Okay.
So of all the things that we as human beings
have to worry about or be concerned about with respect
to you know, our personal lives and our you know,

(35:57):
our community lives, and you know, just our our role
as regents of the planet, it would seem that an
object whizzing by whatever speed thirty five thousand miles away
would be low on the list. And I'm also going

(36:17):
to go out on what I think is a relatively
thick limb here and say this has been going on
literally forever since the Earth coalesced out of a bunch
of rocks and dust and whatnot at the beginning of
the Solar System. That objects have been whizzing past at
various distances all the time, and we just didn't know

(36:38):
about it because we lacked the ability to determine it.
So why does NASA suddenly think there's value in creating
some sense of alarm that, ay, this reality that's been
going on literally since the creation of the Solar System

(36:58):
continues to go on, and that specifically something is going
to go whizzing by thirty five thousand miles away. What's
in it for NASA?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I'm not sure, but a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
One, they have said that there is a zero percent
chance this asteroid strikes there, so I think we're okay there.
I didn't read the fine print. And then in addition
to that, as you and I I believe we've talked
about before, there's the whole dart thing, right, the dart things,
So we're probably going to be good regardless.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
See again, I just you know, telling someone there's a
set of circumstances in which you may well suffer a
fiery death. You say that to them, and they I
s get wide and they take a half step back,
and well what, And then you say, but of course
there's a zero percent chance of it happening, then you

(37:55):
should not be surprised if that person slaps you across
the face. Right, this is why how dare you, you know,
alarm me that that my life may be in jeopardy
and then tell me that in fact, there's no there's
no chance it happens. And yet NASA has is now
regularly alerting us to the fact that an asteroid that

(38:15):
will wipe out the planet, a city killer, whatever the
case may be, is hurtling at us. And then you
know two paragraphs below that they announced but there's a
there's a actually a zero percent chance that happens. But
they've also why some TikToker might do it? But why
is NASA doing it?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
But you've got you know, you've got the dart program. Mmmm?

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Is that the come on shooting distol at the.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
That's exactly right. It's the double asteroid redirection test that
NASA is and agoing. It's uh, it's using what's known
as a kinetic impact or technique, which is striking the
asteroid to shift its orbit.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Now they don't want to try it on this one, Brad.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Because the punch get asteroid.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
It's like you know, you knock it, knock it a
little bit out of the yeah, knock it a little
bitut of the way. But anyway, it sounds like we're
in pretty good shape there. So you know, we'll we'll
learn more about the dart. I don't think they're going
to try it on this one because it could be
you know, where they're intritting to get right in knock
it right into us, like an arch Manning type pass.
So we don't want to do that, right, But you know,

(39:21):
there we are.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
That's a lot, a lot to digest here, a lot
to digest.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
But I think we I think we've we've done a
good job here as we re enter the podcast universe
after a summer of fun and frolicking at the Jersey shore.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Yeah, well funny, I mean, you know, again, as you said,
there you go, we did it. We covered Bill Belichick
and his less than stellar debut is the head coach
of UNC football. We transition from that to just the
transitioning to transitioning and the results of telling people that
they're crazy is fine, and that in fact, they should

(39:58):
continue in whatever crazy direction and they want to go,
and how you then wave your right to be shocked
and appalled when they do it. Right, and then we've
and we've talked about asteroids and the fact that NASA
seems intent upon, you know, ratcheting up every human being
stress level by constantly talking about asteroids and the damage

(40:19):
they could potentially do. But of course there's no chance
they're going to do it right. They're just they're going
to They're going to go about their asteroid business. But
all asteroids should know that we're not screwing around. We
have a giant you know, like one of those giant
boxing gloves on a spring that you know pops out
sometimes in comedies and hit somebody. We've got one of

(40:41):
those waiting for the first asteroid to have the just
you know, ridiculous hutzpa to aim itself at our planet.
Where we're going to We're going to dart you right
back into parade rest mister asteroid, and and we'll you know,
we'll cover all of that right up to and through, Buddy,

(41:01):
We're not going to stop. Three hundred is a big number,
but we're not going to stop there. We're going to
continue all of this important discussion and reporting to and
through the three hundredth episode, and we will do that
right here on IP.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Frequently This has been IP frequently, once again clearing a
forest of lies with the machete of truth. You're welcome
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