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September 22, 2025 37 mins
Ep. 302 - Cancel Culture Karma

After years of the left gleefully canceling conservatives for wrongthink, they're now clutching their pearls about "censorship" when Jimmy Kimmel gets the boot from ABC. David and Brad serve up this piping hot dish of hypocrisy as they watch the woke mob suddenly believe in the First Amendment... but only when it applies to them.

Other hot news topics include AOC's presidential delusions of grandeur, Trump's unfiltered diplomatic performance, and the serious legal battle over Candace Owens' conspiracy theories about France's First Lady that has a Delaware judge demanding... photographic evidence.

From constitutional confusion to conspiracy courtrooms, David and Brad prove that when progressives get served their own medicine, the cognitive dissonance is both immediate and entertaining.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In these bleak days, humanity is at a breaking point.
Economies are tanking, the woke mob is canceling everything, and
the little guy who's just trying to run a small
business is getting screwed from both ends. But not all
is lost. Amidst the chaos, two men offer up their

(00:26):
voices in the darkness, dropping two thousand pounds laser guided
truth bombs on today's lunacy, introducing the Sirens of Sanity
David Pridham and l Bradley sheaf.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Well brother the Flock of Seagulls. I don't know. I
don't know if it was a one hit wonder or
Nolage amadeis too right.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I don't think so amedeis remember that that was?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, No, I definitely do, But I don't think that
was like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Was maybe maybe them. I mean, I'm then not.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Sure about this German band.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
This is in honor of our colleague and part time
producer who's running the Ultra Marathon circuit now, Patrick Aloysius Anderson,
who he just commented and we're looking at the website
before you joined, and he looks like he's like crossing
the Delaware. His photo he's very, very stoic, and he's

(01:35):
running these ultra marathons one hundred miles in a twenty
four hour period. You said, right, And like, are these
do they like little?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I don't know that he's done it more than once.
I just know that he's done it once.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
But do they cordon off streets?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
You know what, buddy? I don't, No, no, no, because
these things I think are generally run like their trail
runs right like you don't You're not running on streets like.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
In the woods.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Could be the woods, yeah, could be the woods, could
be the desert.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Are there lights at night? How do you do that?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
No? You got to carry like a headlamp.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Put a headlamp. But how do you know your if
their trail? How do you know you're on the right
trail that? I don't know. How many people run these things?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
All part of the too many in my opinion. They
cannot listen. I mean, my hat is off. There is
no freaking way that I could ever run one hundred
miles one go, and I don't even want to. Just
the idea of having to train for it is not
something that that I want to do. But my hat
is off to anyone who does it. I mean, it's

(02:39):
an amazing feat, but it cannot be good for you.
But having said that, if you have the wherewithal to
do it, then good for you. I myself do not.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah. Well anyway, that's that is what it is. But
we wish Patrick well In is ultra marathon. When is
the marathon that he's running.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
The New York Marathon, that's that ultramat that's an ultrath. No,
that's just a regular marathon. You just have to be
a regular lunatic to run that, not an ultra lunatic.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not into this stuff. I couldn't
even no, no, no, twenty four hours no, not interested anyway. Okay,
well here we are, so let's see what do we uh,
what do we have going on? Big things going on
the way we had the whole, the whole Charlie Kirk
thing that continues to unfold. And as part of that,

(03:27):
you have all these people that were celebrating Charlie Kirk's
death who are getting fired and canceled and terminated and axed,
and then you have other people, you know, who are
there's sort of a ground swell of activity there and
part of that is this whole Jimmy Kimmel thing. You know,

(03:49):
Jimmy Kimmel is the show on ABC that competes with
The Tonight Show and the other one and took the
place of Ted Copple and Ted Copple Nightline night Line. Yeah,
he may be coming back on the air now, well,
Ted Copple, because Jimmy Kimmel was it was I guess

(04:11):
he was suspended or indefinitely his show was indefinitely pulled
from the lineup because of some of the things he
said about Kirk's death and basically saying Republicans are the
ones that killed him, and all these conspiracy theories and
and so, you know, a bunch of the affiliates get
together and said we're just not gonna are his show anymore.

(04:31):
And that caused Disney to pull the thing. And now
there's this big debate, big debate in this country about
whether or not this is a form of censorship where
the government is censoring what we can and cannot cannot
watch and sort of, you know, ignores some of the
economic aspects of this, including the fact that no one's

(04:54):
watching the show to begin with, and it's very poor
ratings and they're paying him, like they're paying on like
twenty million year to do this thing, and no one's
watching it.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
That's the problem. I don't understand any of this. I mean,
first of all, I just find it so amusing. It
must be an amazing feeling to be a lefty, right,
to just be confident that every word that comes out
of your mouth is gospel, that every concept that goes

(05:24):
through your head is the most correct one, and that
everything you do is right and everything that your opposition
does is wrong. Right, because you know, it was not
long ago that cancel culture was you know, the big thing,
and it was all the left on the right. Right,
someone would say something that the left didn't like, they

(05:44):
would immediately be accused of racism and homophobia and then
quote unquote canceled, right deep platformed, whatever you want to
call it. And that was great, right, I mean, as
far as the left is concerned, that was the absolutely
appropriate thing to do. This person used their speech mechanism,
be it you know, social media or a podcast, whatever,

(06:05):
just you know, made a statement in public that was
speech right, but that speech was not allowed, and you know,
as a result of that, you were quote unquote canceled
and quote unquote deplatformed, and that was great. Was that
was justice being done. And now that the shoes on
the other foot, it's the worst thing ever. It's a
violation of the First Amendment. It's the censorship of free speech. No, no, no,

(06:29):
it's exactly the same thing. It's just that you are
the one upon which it is being perpetrated at this point.
And so now suddenly you're gasping and frantic and how
can this possibly happen? So suck it, right, I mean you,
you on the left, you canceled X number of people

(06:50):
on the right, And that's fine. If that's the culture
we want to have. Fine, If you want to have
a culture where if you say the wrong thing based
on whoever the judges of the day are, then you
get removed from your gig, well fine, that's the culture
we want to have. Fine, but it's going to be

(07:11):
a two way street. I mean, we discussed the same
thing with respect to political violence last time. I mean you,
if this is the door you want to open, fine,
but it's going to swing both ways, and so shut up,
right you you love to cancel culture when it was
the left on the right. Now you're going to have
to suck it up. And the other thing is it's

(07:34):
it's got nothing to do with the First Amendment. For
those of you scoring at home, and you're much more
of a of a come yeah, you're much more of
a constitutional scholar than I am. But it prevents the
government from stifling speech. That's it's not a unilateral right

(07:57):
to say anything you want in front of anybody you want, right.
I mean, you stepped to me or to do David,
I think I can speak from in this and you
start calling our daughters a whore, You're going to get
punched right in the mouth.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
And while in.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
This culture, I'm sure we'll be tried and convicted of
assault and battery for something like that. It's not a
violation of your free speech. We're not the government. And
so to say that ABC's decision or the affiliates decision
to remove Jimmy Kimmel from a paid position that he
has no right to. No one has the right to

(08:35):
be a late night talk show host. Okay, that is
not a right that is protected by the constitution or
statutory law. That is a paid position that he nominally
somebody thought he deserved or earned at some point, and
apparently they're paying him twenty million dollars to do it.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
But when that same organization decides, you know what, I'd
rather do something else with my twenty million dollars and
fires Jimmy Kimmel, that's not a violation of his rights.
I mean, maybe a contractual, Violet, I don't have any idea,
but it's not a violation of his rights.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
And if he says something stupid and his employer says, well,
that was stupid, and I'm not going to pay you
to say stupid things, they don't have to. So anybody
taking the position that this is somehow a violation of
his First Amendment rights. He didn't work for the government,
and the government's not the one that fired him. ABC
fired him. They're a private organization, a for profit private organization.

(09:33):
And to your point, David, the guy sucked anyway. I mean,
I've never seen the Jimmy Kimmel Show, but I've seen
him in other things. He's not funny, he's smug, he's arrogant.
He's the classic guy who thinks that he's been given
a platform so that because people are interested in what
he thinks. If you're on late night TV. You're on
late night TV to be entertaining. I give you Johnny Carson,

(09:55):
who is entertaining. Jimmy Kimmel not entertaining makes the hubistic
miss stake of thinking that people are tuning in because
they're super interested in what Jimmy Kimmel thinks about anything
not true. You've now found that out. You've been fired.
It has nothing to do with freedom of speech. And frankly,

(10:15):
while I applaud the you know, the step that ABC
has taken of getting this guy off the TV, my
guess is they were just looking for an excuse because
again he sucked.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Mmm. I don't. I've never seen an episode of the show.
I've seen snippets. I agree, he's just unwatchable. But it didn't.
We talked about this earlier. It did used to be
the case that late night TV was appointment television. Right
There'd be Carson and Letterman and then Leto and Joan Rivers.
I remember when she did it for a while, and

(10:52):
it used to be just something you'd stay up for.
Now it's like there's no chance in hell. But the
highlight of this thing, I don't know if you saw, well,
you know, Trump President Trump is in or was in
Great Britain, England, Bright England. Hello, Hello, put another shrimp
on the bobby.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Combining your accents there. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
But anyway, Trump is over in England, right, He does
the full deal with King Charles, King Charles, and I
guess you're not supposed to touch the king, but he
patted him on the back and Charles like, you give,
you give the type of look we you know you'd
want to just hit him. And then Trump paddled him
against you get everything but ruffle up his hair, which
is great. And so Trump does that and they have

(11:36):
like a million horses out with the red ruffles and everything.
And then Trump meets up with the Prime Minister of
England and they have a press conference and it's Trump
and the Prime Minister of the UK and the stommer
guy and uh. And the first question out of the
shoot is is Britain still a Christian nation? And Trump

(11:59):
stommers starts to talk. Trumpets hand up and he goes, listen,
I got this, I got this one. And then Trump
goes on for like five minutes of that thing. And
then the second question was about Jimmy Kimmel and Trump
said Trump, Listen, you can't make this shit up. It's
it's like literally, if you picture in your head. Okay,
at one time this was Churchill and FDR Right. At
one time this was Regan. And Trump gets up there

(12:24):
and I'm reading some of this. He goes, it's great
news for America. He goes, Jimmy Kimmel was canceled. He
was terrible, he said, Finally ABC has the courage to
do what needs to be done. But of course it
was an easy decision because Jimmy Kimmel had zero talent, none,
and his ratings were worse than even Stephen Colbert. That's
not even possible. And the Tonight Show, don't get me

(12:45):
started on the Tonight Show. That leaves just Jimmy Fallon
and Seth Myers. They're two total losers. It's on fake
news NBC. Their ratings are also horrible. We need to
get rid of this. I mean, he's saying all this stuff. Literally,
I'm a Dais with the British Prime Minister standing at
a podium next to him, and he's he goes, and
this is just these are just clips from some of

(13:06):
the things he said. He just went on and on
and on, and on and it's just I mean, listen,
am I entertained, yes, yes, I'm.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Response to England being a Christian nation because I'll tell
you what, that is an interesting question because it pretty
much demonstrably is not.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
He said, he said it, and I'm paraphrasing he said
it was. But he said there are certain there are
problems and pointed to immigration. And then the I guess
the mayor of London is like Shahid Khan or something.
Con is that right? And uh, he went, he just
he said, he started talking about him and London's a
dump and he said, you know, we really really wanted

(13:48):
to be at this state dinner and at the press conference,
but Trump said I wouldn't have it. I don't want
anything to do with him, and basically called those people godless.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
And it's just you know, there you go.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
But it was it was a pomping that the horses
would run around. They had Camilla Parker bowls. By the way,
who's just looking fantastic as always, And uh, you know,
I still remember the time I told my wife we
were having dinner with another couple in Dallas. It was
just a fucking mistake, and uh, somehow we got on this.

(14:24):
The the whole line of you know, you get one
hall you know what a hall pass is?

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I do.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, So you get one hall pass where you were
allowed to assume you you probably picked Audrey Hepburn, but
you get to pick one person in your in the
world where if the opportunity came up, you can run
out on your marriage. It's not cheating, it's a hall pass.
And so who would your hall pass be? And this
is a conversation all these other couples are having, and
I like, jump in at this point, I just want
to be out of there, right, I want to be

(14:51):
out of there. I've had a couple of glasses of
wine and so I say, well, mine is Camilla Parker Bowls.
And everyone's just looking around the table like if I
have I don't even know what it is. And then
the other half like and my wife is like, what
what are you talking about? And I said, yeah, Prince Charles,
he was prince. He was in a king now he's
a king and she's a queen. I said, no, it's
Camilla Parker Bowls. She's incredible, absolutely incredible. And I pulled

(15:14):
up a picture of her and it's like she's got
these black teeth and she kind of looks like, you know,
like Gollum almost in a way with hair, a little
bit like if the crip keeper had kids with a
column and uh, there's just a lot of people. No one,
no one gets that it could even possibly be a joke, right,
no one. It's just everyone's looking at me like that

(15:34):
was that was kind of wacky. It's kind of a
weird feinish there, and I'm like, oh, it was a joke,
but it's totally wasted on you, So what's the But anyway, yeah,
she Camilla Parker Bowls was running around with the the
the Melaia Trump and then the daughter, the Princess Kate
is out there. It's good times.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Sounds like good times.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, let's see other political news. I guess you know
a remember Aoc Octavia Acacia she uh Cortes, right, yeah,
Alexandria that you know he is a knquisador was looking

(16:22):
for the lost. I thought it was a guy that
won that fight against Canela last week. No, it's a woman, Aoc.
She apparently she.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Knows what that is funny, but I could not tell
you what her name. I know who you're talking about.
But she's so commonly referred to as AOC I couldn't
tell you her name.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Who is Octavio Cortes, That's what I'm thinking. I keep
saying Octavio.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
No, that sounds like a prize fighter.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah. Well, I mean, this woman has not a bit.
But apparently aoc IS has formed a an exploratory committee
to determine can you imagine what that groups like to
determine whether she should run for the Senate in a
primary against the people's choice check Schumer, or run for

(17:05):
the presidency in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
That's it where she's she should definitely do both.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
She could do both. I mean, that's yeah, that's something
I mean, you got to you got to you got
to wonder.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Is she's still relevant? I mean, I you know, remarkably,
And I hadn't even thought of this until you you
brought her up. And that's why I thought of it,
is I haven't thought of her in a long time.
Like there was a period of time when she was,
you know, being mentioned in the media on a at
least once a day every day, and was out there,
you know, and was going to the to the met

(17:37):
and you know, just all this stuff it was just
aoc all the time, running her stupid mouth, and I
have not heard anything about her in months. So I
mean it's I mean, set aside the fact that it
is beyond ludicrous that she would run for the presidency.
There's no way she might. And she might in a

(18:00):
senatorial seat in New York. And if you're in New York,
that's all you need to know about your state. Okay,
So just if you're a reasonable human being who happens
to reside in New York, fasten your chin strap, buddy,
because your state could easily vote aoc In as one
of your two senators. But she's not winning the presidency,
although I mean I'm not saying you won't run. She

(18:21):
probably will, but I mean, who cares about her anymore?
She's still a thing.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
She is very popular with the Democratic base. That is
a fact. And I'll tell you this. You know, can
she win the presidency? No, it's I mean, I think
it's unless something unprecedented happened.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well, yeah, unless the Republicans run Marjorie Taylor Green.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Even if they ran her, she probably lose to her.
I mean, she's so she's so extreme, and I mean
there was she was posting a video about this Jimmy
Kimmel thing, and she said, this is outrageous, this is censorship.
It should never happen. And then somebody chimes in and
this is why, like Twitter is just successful. I can't
even because you get on there and you start for first,
like within a second of that thing popping up, a

(19:05):
comment pops up this year, and then there's a video
of her from when Tucker Carlson was fired talking about
how we have to deep platform hate speech and it's
not it's got nothing to do with freedom of the
freedom of of course, the same thing, just just this
this syrupy, condescending lecturing as about Tucker Carlson. And again
I'm I'm not for the government advocating for any of

(19:29):
these morons to be taken off the air, right, But
what clearly happened with Tucker Carlson was that there was
pressure put on Fox, including governmental pressure, because of things
he said about the election. And then you know, with
this Jimmy Kimmel thing, I mean, you know, the the
the FCC did make some statements about Kimmel's comments about

(19:51):
I'm not for I'm not for any of that, but
I'm for the fact that, you know, let the marketplace
decide and Kimmel suck exactly. But she's such a she's
such a phoney's such a hypocrite. She could win a primary,
though I'm not. I'm telling you right now, she could very,
very easily win a Democratic primary for president.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I know she could do it in New York. I
mean again, not only a is it New York. And
you know New York is very proudly just you know,
for mayors, for congressional seats, for senatorial seats, just sending
the worst people they can find into the office. So yeah,
I mean New York could definitely do it. But you're

(20:33):
also running against Chuck Schumer, who's just he's just to get.
He's just a lightweight get. And so you know, when
you when you got two gets going head to head,
I mean, who knows who comes out the winner.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Show.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I could definitely see her winning that primary now.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
And in general too, in New York should wind Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I mean again I said, I mean New York seems
to be bound and determined to go all get all
the time, right, And fine, I mean if that's if
that's what you want, that's your state, that's what you do.
That's fine, that's what democracy is. But the idea that
the Democrats could be so bereft of political acumen and

(21:18):
talent that the person who would win the Democratic primary
and become their candidate for president would be that gal
is I mean, if you're a Democrat, you know, especially
if you're some involved professionally in some way in the

(21:38):
d NP, the idea that she could play isn't that
Democrat National what do you call it? What do you
call the like National Organization of the Democrats?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Uh DNC, Democratic National Committee?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Is that it? Maybe that's it? So whatever that is whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
The organization loosely the Democratic Party.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
But okay, well there you go. So if if you're
in charge of the Democratic Party, however, just run and
the idea that that could be your candidate, that that's
the best you could do, must just be horrified, right,
I mean, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
What it reminds me of that. I want to say, Lord,
I don't know what twenty ten or twelve the Republicans
had a chance to be, but it must have been ten, right,
because it was the Biden Senate se They had a
chance to pick up the Biden Senate sea. That was
vacant because he became vice president of two thousand and

(22:36):
nine and the Republicans had some some senate I guess
Delaware has one representative in the House and then two senators.
And the representative was a Republican he'd been there forever,
and he was convince him to run for the senatec
the moderate guy, like an old New England conservative, very

(22:56):
very liberal on social issues, so a guy who could
win in Delaware, and he got primaried by this chick
who was like AOC but on the right. But she
won the primary because she ran this this, this fire
and brimstone campaign and then and all this stuff. And
she gets into the general against some Democrat, probably Chris

(23:20):
Coons or some of the guy's a senator now, and
they immediately start running ads about other things she's done,
including her social media. And it turns out this chick
was a witch. She had a wicked whatever that's wicked?
Is that what it's called? And she was like away.
There's all sorts of stuff on her Facebook page about
how she was a practicing witch and this and that,

(23:40):
and obviously she I think she won like twelve percent
of the vote in the election. I mean they just
they destroyed her and because of you, they used her
own words. But that that's what this kind of you
know thing would remind me of when they send someone
up like her to take on JD. Vance. It's not
gonna it's not gonna fly. I mean, there's a lot
to happen in the next three years and it's very premature.
Last thing I want to do is talk about another

(24:01):
presidential legend without putting my hand on a scalding hot
stove and get shaped. But she, she would have She
would struggle in a general legend, I think to say, they.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Imagine her on a debate stage with nearly any other
human being, but certainly someone who was skilled in the
art of debate. I mean, it would just.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
She'd have a tough time. Yeah, she'd have a tough time.
Next bread. You know, we talked earlier today. We had
you and I had a as everyone knows, you and
I talk in advance about all the topics, and we
had our call with the new baseball duo, the Matt
and Bill Show, which is running I believe every night
on this podcast network from eleven thirty to twelve or

(24:49):
whenever the last game ends.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, the West Coast games are over.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, m hmm, yeah, so we'll we'll see about that.
But we had a a discussion about, you know, the
big conspiracy theories that are going on out there about
everything from uh, you know, World War two all the
way to president the latest assassination at Charlie Kirk on
the Trump assassination. And one of the people we talked

(25:16):
about was this Candice Owens. Candas Owens is the conservative
woman who is I guess you'd call her conservative firebrand.
She's a flamethrower, bomb thrower, whatever you want to call her,
but she's she's has very very radical positions and she

(25:36):
on her podcast and she gets again, she gets millions
of cliqus because some of the stuff she says is
out there, and on her podcast at some point over
the past year, she made statements about, uh, you know
mac macon in France, Jean maclone.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
The Prime Minister of France. Buzzn't in France?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Correct, yeah, correct? And then and again he has a
very interesting interesting marriage, right because he was his wife
is like twenty nine years older than him, and she
was his teacher. She was like his his teacher when

(26:21):
she was forty and he was like fourteen, and then
they became they became engaged. I guess engaged with the
way you do it.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
You can do that in France.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
And they're married. But Owens has claimed on her podcast
that her name is Brigitte Carl. She has claimed on
her podcast that Brigitte Macrone, now seventy two, was born
male and said that she would then recently she said

(26:55):
she would stake her entire professional career on that point.
And apparently she was backed up by claims previously made
in France by two women who were sued by Brigitte
Macrol in twenty twenty one. So even she's making these

(27:16):
claims that and I don't even know why that matters. Yeah, yeah,
I mean do you care? Would you care if your teacher?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Well, now, well, I mean, I don't know that I'm
a fan of a forty year old teacher having a
relationship with a fourteen year old. I don't know that
I would be get behind that.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Well, Brad, he's of age now, Brad, he's the Prime minister.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
But I understand that he's of age now. I mean,
and I and Frank, I don't care if you know
mcron wants to marry a woman twenty nine years his senior.
I don't care, and I don't care if it turns
out that that quote unquote woman turns out to be
a dude, and that's Macron's thing. I mean again, is
it my thing? Am I advocating for it? I am not.

(27:56):
But if that's what Macron wants to do, and if
that's what the people of France want to elect, I
don't care.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
But you don't.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I think it would be a stretch to just assume,
especially back in that day seventy two years ago, that
you know that would occur.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
But I you know, who knows which part?

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, I mean, the forty year old with the fourteen
year old is imaginable.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, that's what Dave Krueger, you're one of your proteges,
did only the reverse. I think there was no teacher
involved and he I don't think he's a dude, but
I'm not sure. But no, it's interesting, and then you know,
you get to this whole. I mean, I love you said.
Charlie Sheen just had a you know, he just wrote
a book and he's doing the rounds and he said

(28:42):
that he had a man on man experience at some
point too. And he said he was always ashamed of it,
but he in his book he came out to reveal
that and then I guess that's how he got the HIV.
But he said he too had a man. And again,
I'm not saying that regime mccron is a man. I
don't believe that. I think there's no evidence to that
that effect. I'm not giving it credence other than just

(29:05):
talking about it in general consecut lawsuit. But Charlie Sheen
said that he had some experiences like this, So maybe
Meckle did. I mean, you know, again, Brad who hasn't had.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
A starters, I can't even Okay, yeah, well neither have I.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
But I mean again, there's you so, so, the so
the Okay. So here's the story though. So this woman,
Candice Owen, says all this stuff, and so she has
now been sued in Delaware right by the French couple. Right,
they have they suit her in July. They alleged that

(29:51):
Owen's disregarding all credible evidence disproving her claim in favor
of platforming non conspiracy theories and proven to famers, has
to fame and brigite mcron, and so the court in Delaware.
Have you you ever seen the show Orleans with Larry Hagman. No,
there was a show called Orleans. He's dead now, but

(30:12):
he he played a judge in New Orleans and he
would always do these weird like he had. There was
one case of like they I guess, they would have
a county turtle race every year, and there was a
photo finish and they were there was a dispute about it.
So the two owners of the two turtles that were
at the front of the race, like Patrick, right, like Patrick,

(30:33):
came to court to get him to rule in either
of the turtle's favor, and he said, hold on a minute.
He said, for me to judge this, I have to
see the two turtles race. And so they did a
turtle race, right because he wanted to see it, Brad.
But to see it he you know, fool me once,
shame on you, fool me twice on me type of thing.
You know what I'm saying. Like he wanted to see

(30:54):
the evidence. So in this case, the judge in Delaware,
and I don't know who this judge is. I don't
have I have dug into the pleadings. Yet there's a
protective order protecting some of the disclosures, I guess, but
I guess the judge has asked that Emmanuel Meckcole and
his wife Brigitte present quote, photographic and scientific evidence to

(31:17):
prove the French first Lady is in fact a woman,
and they're going to comply with that. So and again
that that gives new meaning to the words protective order. Right,
you don't want to see that.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
No one does.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
No one does for sure, though. Yeah, but in any
event that's happening.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Well, that's good. I mean, I'm I'm glad to hear
that Candice Owens has staked her professional reputation, which seems
easy to do because her professional reputation can't be much
on this very improbable event being the case, and that
the court and imagine, and you know, we obviously are,

(31:54):
our justice system is starting to teeter it a little
bit because you know, we've got judges acting like they're
emperors and you know, enjoining this and joining that and whatnot,
and you know, well beyond the bounds of their authority.
So you can, you can certainly make the case of
our justice system is not what it once was. But
can you imagine being a federal judge and coming to

(32:18):
work one day and saying, well, you know, great, you know,
I'm going to get to preside over the jurisprudence of
you know, some important issues today. I'm looking forward to
being a judge. And then you see on your desk
a civil complaint filed by the President and First Lady
of France claiming that the First Lady has been impugned

(32:40):
because she's been called a man when in fact she's
a woman. And I would do exactly the same thing.
I would say, all right, well, this is pretty easy,
you know, you know, let's let's let's let's see the evidence,
Madam first Lady. And then when you get it. And
my presumption is that when the judge gets it, it's
going to you, you know, present a case, a strong

(33:04):
case that miss mcron is in fact a woman. Then
you drag all candice in front of in front of
the bench and you say, all right, you know, defend yourself.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
So that's it, that's it. I mean, do you remember
when my former brother in law, Anthony do you remember him?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
I do remember him. I mean one of the first
things he could run for office in New York because
he is likewise.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Again, yeah, he told me One of the first things
he said to me was he said, who do you
What are your politics? And I like, I don't. I
don't talk about it. And then he told me, well,
you know, Michelle Obama is a man, right, And I
said what And I'd never heard this before and then
he said yeah, yah, yeah. Then he pulled up this
video on his phone of some guy in like a

(33:51):
room just giving this lecture on Michelle Obama's physical characteristics.
Now has to be a man, and I was like,
I couldn't believe someone was saying this. And then I
literally googled Michelle Obama and his theory was that Michelle
Obama was like Michael Johnson or whatever something, and he
said this, this is a Michelle Obama didn't exist until

(34:15):
grad school and she was the she she was. Her
original name was Michael Johnson or something, a middle linebacker
from the for the Oregon Ducks, right, something like that.
And I was like, but what just mean very first
of all, that's not true, none of it's true. It's
it's it's defammatory to even say that, so but I

(34:37):
was like it just he was how dumb some people are?
I said, well, that's freaking insane, and I literally picked
up my phone I googled Michelle Obama high school graduation
photo because if she didn't exist before Harvard Law or
wherever Yale, wherever she went, then there wouldn't be a
high school graduate. Well there it is. You know, the
did countless pictures of her. It's just nonsense. Unlike Kamala

(35:01):
Harris right, who never worked at the McDonald's, didn't have
any photos of rhythm, no one could vouch for Michelle
Obama was born a woman, and that's a fact. Jack
he still doesn't buy it though, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
He's Well, that's the beauty of being a conspiracy theorist, right.
I mean, it's it's sort of like being on the
left and if someone says something you don't like, you
just say, well, you're a racist. I mean even if
someone even if the person on the left says spaghetti
is the best meal on earth and you say, well,
I disagree, I think it might be a hamburger, they
just go, well you think that because you're a racist.
And then you stand there because there is no response

(35:36):
to that, there's no reasonable response that you just stand
there flat foot of going wait what And then they
just a clare victory and walk away, right. And so
it is similar being a conspiracy theorist because you present
some case like Candace presenting this case that Brigitte Macron
is a dude. Brigit presents, you know, photos of the

(35:58):
of the you know, object in question, and the judge goes,
well that that doesn't look like a dick to me,
and whoa you just declare, you know, is your conspiracy
is just say well she doctored the photos, right, I mean,
you can just kick this can as far down the
road as you want, right. You can say, well that's
that evidence was doctor, right, And then you say, well, okay,

(36:20):
well then we need to get evidence that the evidence
was evidence. And then you present evidence that the evidence
was evidence, and then it's not.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Evident that's doctored.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
And then you need evidence that the evidence of the
evidence was evidence. Yeah, and you just do that forever.
That's the duty of being a conspiracy too much.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Well I'm exhausted, brout how I'm exhausted? Yeah, like Patrick,
like Patrick after one hundred mile raise.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
But that's the thing. Patrick wasn't exhausted. He was surprised
a spring chicken. So I mean as far as I know,
but in any case, yeah, but I mean, that's that's
probably all that we should reasonably try to tackle at
this point, all over the place, to include Brigitte mccrun's privates.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Which inappropriate.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I'm not sure how we got there or why we
even talked about Charlie Sheen, you know, having an incanxperiment
with a man which say, you know what, we'll just
we'll stop, we'll stop, we'll reevaluate, and we'll move forward,
and we'll do it right here next week, IP frequently.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
This has been IP frequently, once again, clearing a forest
of lies with the machete of truth.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
You're welcome.
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