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December 17, 2025 25 mins
Ep. 313 - How to Lose Everything in Ten Minutes

David and Brad dissect the spectacular implosion of Michigan's head football coach, who traded a $6 million dream job and family for ten minutes of pleasure (and that’s being generous). Gene Simmons drops wisdom at the Kennedy Center about staying in your lane, and the guys explain why if you go to Thailand, you’re probably gonna get kidnapped.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In these bleak days, humanity is at a breaking point.
Economies are tanking, the woke mob is canceling everything, and
the little guy who's just trying to run a small
business is getting screwed from both ends. But not all
is lost. Amidst the chaos, two men offer up their

(00:26):
voices in the darkness, dropping two thousand pounds laser guided
truth bombs on today's lunacy, introducing the Sirens of Sanity
David Pridham and l Bradley Sheaf.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Brad one of the great themes one of the great
franchises of all time, the Vacation Franchise. I still remember
to this day. You know, people often say to me,
what are your fondest memories of being a ute? And
I say, listen, I say I have there a lot
of them, right. Obviously starring on the football team, like listen,

(01:08):
you wouldn't know what this is like, but getting packets
of you know, from from large like Division one college
like Oklahoma for example, not necessarily saying that happened, but
you know, coming home and having Lou Holtz in your
in your living room just waiting on you. Jimmy Johnson
Art Shellenberger no artist who's the guy Louisville and he

(01:30):
won the title of Miami Shellenberger the pipe.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh, I don't know. The only guy I know one
a title at Miami is Jimmy Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Now this guy won a title before Arch. Maybe I'm
just imagining.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Maybe I've already star artll I know, but that's ll
smoke a pipe.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Art Shell was, according to Jim Vickers, the greatest offensive
lineman of all time and the worst Raider coach of
all time. And that, of course, he said that before
the recent spate of Raider coach Joe Carol. I think
Joe Biden coaches them. Now. I saw the game the
other day. It's not good.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
No, it's not good.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's good. But one of my one of my earliest
memories was the the Vacation movies. I was allowed to
see the first one or the second one, but the
third one, Christmas Vacation. I was standing outside the school
with a friend of mine. I forget who, and I'm like,
I'm leaving the school with Hank Anthony. Hank Anthony was
the son of a Lebanese teamster, and we were just leaving,

(02:28):
like you know, we're done for the day. We're going
to go. It's like ten am, We're gonna go see
National Lampoons.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Vacation done for the day. It's ten am.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well we were, you know, it was the end of
the semester. So I want to say Vacation came out
in June. Is that possible?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
The original vacation or Christmas vacation?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Christmas vacation, Well.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
It probably came out around Christmas, would be my guest.
And maybe you were done for the semester, so all
that would make sense.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm just gonna say
this to be very candid. This story. The story is delaying.
But as I look at I put in when was
it released? And it was December first, nineteen eighty nine,
which is a year the year after I graduated high school.
So the story couldn't have happened because I've got this
story pegged at eighty seven. What was the damn movie?

(03:14):
There was some movie. They were standing out in front
of the school and we were like, we're going to
the movie. We're leaving, But it was in June.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
And then we started talking about vacation because it's a movie.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
You remember going to a movie.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
But it wasn't fake I don't know what the film was.
You know, it might have been Naked Gun when was
Naked Gun, or it could have been The Naked Gun,
the first Naked Gun movie. I bet it was that.
Maybe I don't even know where this story. I don't
even know where this story went off the rails. I'm
sorry again again. I just had a rough week. So
but so listen. So this this week, though, you know,

(03:48):
the government is kind of you know, I mean, I
don't want to say depressing, but we're just sort of
in this little lull. You're kind of looking at Trump.
Now we're a year in. Everyone's exhausted again, and you're like,
my god, I'm just so tired of the although he
just gave you see the Kennedy Center honors. You just
gave the Kennedy Center honors to like uh uh stallone

(04:10):
and Gloria Gaynor, who's terrific by the way, you know,
oh no, no, go walk out the door. Don't turn
around now because you don't know will she got one?
And then did uh George Strait got one? And and
then Jean you see Gene Simmons and kiss gout one.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
I saw I did not see that, but I saw
that he was testifying on the Hill about you know,
artists getting proceeds from radio airplay, and they.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Saw or something.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
But you know, when you get Gene Simmons sitting down
in front of Congress, I wish that I had known
that was happening before it happened, because I would have
watched that. Well.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Then that was the guy who does not f around.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
And those are morons who are asking him questions. And
Gene Simmons is not a moron. I don't know if
you ever listen to that guy talk, He's not a moron.
So that was probably entertaining.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
He is fantastic and he he They interviewed everyone on
the way into the Kennedy Center and they and all
the you know, the reporters and the stuff that you
typically get, you know, they're like, hell, did you do
you support do you disavow anything? The President said, do
you support her? And he looked at the guy. I said, listen,
He said listen. He said, I'm not going to say
anything political. You know why, because it doesn't matter. He said,

(05:22):
you know what I'm You know what I am. I'm
a guy who puts paint on my face and sticks
my tongue out for a living, and I've done pretty
well with that. And he said, you shouldn't care what
I say. I don't care what you say. He had that,
you know, the wife.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
With him, the wife.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
He's a very nice lady.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
But I've actually been married a fairly long time.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Been married a fairly long time. She was like one
of those softcore poor I don't know if she had
like some of that stuff. And and he looked at
it was one of the guys from CNN, and he said, listen,
let me help you out. He said, I don't have
any desire for you to know my who I voted for.
When I was young, we went to the voting booth

(06:01):
and there was a curtain, so you pullect the curtain
so no one would know who you voted for. But listen,
don't worry about it, because I have the most beautiful
wife here and I'm gonna be fine. And then he
just walked away, and it was absolutely absolutely terrific. But
but yeah, so, I mean, but you're in the middle
of this like little lull, right, you got that going on.

(06:22):
You got the healthcare thing, which we just got to.
The healthcare thing's got to be figured out we can't.
But the problem is, you know we've now they're gonna
they're gonna renew the Obamacare subsidies, So we're just gonna
polloon the deficit even more. I hopefully they can figure
that out, but they're going to figure that out. You
got the elections that took place this year that were

(06:43):
not great for the Democrat of the Republicans. But you
just sort of feel it, right, You just sort of
feel that as soon as it can't get any lower,
and you're kind of like, oh, I just need to
move on from this.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I don't want to do this anyway.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
He's gonna ramp it up a notch and take it
to another love. You just feel it like it's like Drake.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
May By, he you're talking about Trump.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yes, I'm talking about Trump. He was on the plane
the other day and you thought it almost happened the
other day. He was on the plane the other day
and he was talking to the reporters on Air Force
one and then some reporter tried to like was behind
him trying to get out of the bathroom and try
the door kind of jostled into Trump, and Trump pushed
it back and shut. He said, oh, No, you're not
getting out of there right now. It's just you start
seeing things like you can see already, the false imprisonment

(07:27):
stuff and kidnapping and all that. But I feel like
there's another shoot to drop after the first year, and
I don't want to get ahead of ourselves because we
have our big Year in Review twenty twenty five episode
coming up. We have our bold and fearless predictions coming up.
So I feel like the second the second act is

(07:47):
going to be is going to be good. I'll probably
get a second wind over the holidays and be able
to stomach some more of this stuff, and maybe the
whole Ukraine thing goes away. Maybe you and I, you know,
we come back from the hall of the Ukraine things over,
We've solved the healthcare crisis. Maybe maybe time travel is
the thing.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Maybe I don't want time travel to be a thing
living one of the the older I get, the less
I want to do it again, you know what I mean.
I'm super happy with where I am, but I don't
want to do it again.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Now. Listen, listen, there are a lot of things going
on now right though. There are a lot of things
still things to talk about. What do you follow Michigan football.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I do not specifically follow me. I'm not a Michigan man.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
I don't really care about Michigan University, but I follow
college football.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I enjoy college football.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I liked it very much, and so I am aware
of the situation at Michigan University.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
It seems like, you know Belichick, and listen, I give
Belichick credit, right, because he's got careful fourign a. He's
doing his doing his deal down. He's staying apparently at
North Carolina. But it's like this coach at Michigan who
I didn't even know I did. I knew it was
a coach at Michigan, right, and I knew they beat o
Iowa State last year and had a pretty good team,

(09:05):
and a couple of years ago they were in like
the semi finals with this coach.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Well they want it with Harball Harball.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, exactly exactly. But apparently this coach, I guess, went
way off the deep end. And basically he's got a family,
got young kids, but he had a relationship with like
a kid who was like a some some graduate student
or something who was like his made his assistant, and

(09:37):
then that gut found out. He was fired and then
he goes to her house and threatens to kill himself.
And now he's in the pokey, he's been arrested. He's
like hog Tide.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, some of that I cannot attest too. And so
I have not read a story today, but I read
yesterday that he was summarily fired after an investigator fired
four after an investigation that he had an inappropriate relationship
with a staff member.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
And so I mean, which is his secretary? This girl?

Speaker 4 (10:08):
You don't have to be, you know, a middle aged man,
as both you and I are to know read between
those lines to say, okay, he was, you know, fiddling
if it were with some young gal.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
And of course that's what it turns out to be.
And the university said, no, we're not doing that.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
And I presumed I didn't know what you said. He
went over there and threatened to kill himself. I presumed
that she got upset with him, that she sort of
ratted him out.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
He lost his job and now.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
You know, his entire reputation, family, et cetera because of this,
And he went over there and beat the tarnation out
of her, and the cops locked him up for that.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
That's what I was when all of that was just presumption.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I don't know that he locked him up.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
I know that it was.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I know that he got locked up for a for
violence a man. I know he got locked up for
abusing someone. And to the point where they have not
let him out. I mean, I guarantee you that he
you know, if they had set bail, he could he
could make it.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I mean, he was the football coach at Michigan.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
He's making millions, so I'm sure whatever his if they
had set bail, he would be able to get us. So,
whatever he did, they're not letting him bail himself out.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
He is in, as you say, the poking.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
He he had like a six million dollars a year
job and a high profile coach, and he had years
to go in the contract, three four years. And he's
having an affair with his.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Best jobs in the world.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, he's having a Yeah, he's having an affair with
some kid. And then apparently she broke it off and
he goes running over to her. Hat that doesn't think
about his wife and his kid goes running over to
her house and threatens to kill himself with a butter knife.
And you know, Trump probably traumatized her and and and
now he's in he's in jail. I mean, that's you know,
it'd be funny, though I'm not. I'm not no that's funny.

(11:54):
But would be funny is if Michigan hired Lane Kiffin
to be its next coach.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
I will say this about that whole situation, my old man,
you know, and this unfortunate buddy.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I guess I should just be I should just be
thankful that whatever that gene is.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
You know, when guys hit a.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Certain age and they look in the mirror and they're like, ah,
you know what, I have lost his step. I don't
have point the game I used to have. And they
try to resolve that by having an affair with a
younger woman, and they try to have their caken in
it too, right, they try to be a family man,
raise their kids.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I don't have that gene. But I'm not taking credit.
I'm not saying hey, I'm awesome.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Everybody's really me. I'm just saying I don't. That has
never been a temptation for me. I want nothing to
do with it, and I frankly don't understand it because
if you think about.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
It for thirty.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Seconds and this guy's the classic example. He's got a
six million dollars a year job, great job, one of
the most coveted jobs in college football. He's got a wife,
he's got kids, he's well respected.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
And he can't keep it in his pants.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
I mean, that is just I don't get it in
my old man still this day, I was gonna say
he used to say it, still says it now. His
the and you know, the old man, he's very pithy.
He just says these little things he says, and sometimes
they'll just take you right off your feet. And he
would always say, I hope the you know effing that
he got is worth the effing that.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
He's gonna get.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah, And that's that's hit in a nutshell, right, I mean,
for I mean, let's give the guy some credit and say,
you know, he's pretty good at it. You got ten
minutes of, you know, a pleasurable experience with a younger woman,
and in exchange.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
If he's lucky, if he's said I was good.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
So I was saying, I'm just giving the guy credit.
He got ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
With this young lady, maybe more than once, but certainly
no more than ten minutes of a pleasurable experience with
this young lady and exchanged the whole.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Rest of his life for that. Yeah, I just don't
do that.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
If you're listening to the Very Fine Program and you
are approaching that age when men fall into this trap,
you just have an ice creamrea, buy a car, do
some other middle aged crisis thing, right, something that's harmless,
something that people will make fun of you, like, get
a hair weave, some like that. Somewhere you're gonna be
made fun of, and deservedly so, but isn't going to

(14:20):
ruin your whole life, right, Just don't don't do it.
Get a friend, ask him as advice. I still tell
you don't do it. Then both of you go get
an ice cream and a hair weave, and it's all good.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You know what's interesting. Do what you gotta do, and
not the ice cream. The ice cream things have bridge
too far from me. I'll be honest, I just can't
do it. I there are I can think of it.
The last year at least a dozen times where we
take the kids out for ice cream and you got
the senior crew in front of you and they're just
like you gotta try the bubble gum, and like heaven,

(14:54):
And I haven't even know this was a thing. Do
you know that? It's a thing where you can go
to the ice cream store and they'll get a little
tasting spoon and then let you taste all the ice cream.
Did you know that? Yes?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I didn't know that, But now that I do know
what I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I'm sure you'll do it. You'll be the one me
and my wife are complaining about.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Is that butterbrick thirty little taste of ice cream? And
then you just shrug and go, oh, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
And we're sitting there with like four kids just screaming
all they want and I'm like, I don't. They don't
want to taste the ice cream. We just can They
can taste what they buy. They're gonna take. My kid
looks at me and says, hey, I want to taste it.
Them like, yeah, you could that. That is that what
you want? Because that's what you're gonna get. You're not
getting taste. We're not sitting up, we're not doing that.
That's good parent, yeah uh huh, but that's old again,

(15:37):
all due respect old people on ice cream. I can't
do it, And you know, don't even get my wife started.
Next time you see her, ask her about it. Ask her.
She'll this is something very near and dear to her heart.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
She does not like that, as you know, buddy, because
it's still one of my favorite memories. When your wife
decides to go down hot take alley. Oh yeah, it
is absolutely worth being there. Set up the ropes, pop
yourself some corn. Because when one Emberly Brittam decides to
cook off about something, it is the best.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
And so if I can get her to cook off
about senior citizens in ice cream, I.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Will absolutely do that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well that's listen, that's not gonna be hard to do.
Just ask and you shall receive. That's very very straightforward.
You'll you'll you'll get that if you uh, if you uh,
if you want? Did I tell you we were invited
to be on the boat show?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
The boat shown? I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
There's a show, this reality TV show on the boat
where people go on a boat. It's called below Deck
and you go on a boat below deck. They film it.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
It's like a boat, must be a big boat.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
So this is it's like a yacht. It's like a
yacht and you go on the boat. Yeah, yeah, you
go into the yacht. Well that you bring people, so you,
you and Christin would of course be involved, maybe Silas,
Harry Morgan and his wife and a couple of a
couple of the stown I'm intrigued, okay, But basically it's
this whole crew and the crew is like you know,

(17:12):
they're they're young people and they're all having a connecting
with one another and all this stuff. And then you
go on the boat and they're you're there for like
two days on the boat and you but everything gets filmed,
Everything gets filmed. Everything, you have to sign the waiver
and it all goes in and uh and they usually
charged listen to this, they charge like one hundred and
twenty k for this experience, and they offered it to

(17:35):
us for like a ninety percent discount, which is sort
of you know, I've done that before of our licenses.
But yeah, there's just a ninety percent discount. And there's
like okay, and then and then what you're gonna film everything?
And yeah, then we're gonna do and then okay, how
do you get on this boat? And they said, well,
first thing you do is you fly to Thailand and
that was it. Nope, we're not doing that. That was
the end of that.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah, you know, pretty much, I will say pretty much
anything where they say listen stop on.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Flight of Thailand, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
But I gotta circle back here from because I've never
heard of this show, and admittedly I am open to,
you know.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Being mocked for my pop culture.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
There's no TV shows that I know, so this show.
So let me get it straight.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
So there's some number of Is it always couples.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, it it depends. It's usually it's it's just a
group of people that come on and then that's an episode.
They go on the boat, then another crew. It's like
they do so.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
It's it's not it's not you don't have to be
on the boat for a month.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
No, you going for two days and then you get
off and then another crew comes out.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
And they just so it's it's it's a reality show
about the crew and they throw.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
A bunch of people together. Is the crew always the same?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
No, I don't think so, because they're all different boat shows.
They have different ones for different boats. But again we're this,
where is this? Yeah, there's the crew's the captains one?
No that I would.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Love to watch you people get a sense of you,
probably a pretty fair sense by listening to this very fine,
no doubt, they get a sense of who David is. Correct,
they don't really know you, on the other hand, really
know you, and you.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Would be.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
The most entertaining human being that's ever been on the show.
Not because you're campy or you're gonna be up to hijinks,
but because you're just going to heap your disdain and
scorn on everyone around you. That's what you would do.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Well.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's also because the people that bring with me, I mean,
that's that's you know that that would probably be it.
I'm telling you some of these people you give them
a you give them their own show, and they're, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
I could think of several associates of yours and of
mine for that matter, that you know again, it would
be the episode to end all episodes if you did that.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
How did you get rather? You just know, like the
producer they.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Reached out to my now they reached out to my wife.
She she got connected through somebody that was on the
show and they recommended her and she doesn't want it.
She's like, for Thailand, are you crazy? And said, yeah,
they're kidnapping Americans and Thailand. That's all I have to
say to their kids, Like if she's if she says, hey,
I want to go to Chicago, but I'm like, they're
kidnapping Americans. That's it. Like I want to go to Mystic,
Connecticut to go to the seaport. Are you crazy? They're

(20:18):
kidnapping Americans.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Mystic And that's the end of that.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's all I have to say.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
That's as you can say that about your backyard if
you don't want to cut the grass.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, that's all I But you know, you bring someone
like our good friend Silas Moody on the thing indeed,
and you know, every once in a while, I'll be
sitting with him because right now we're in the middle
of this heater on the Patriots. We're ten and hour.
But you just look at you after the game, you know,
when he should be going home, and he'll say, did
I ever tell you the time about about the time
when I bought the the cubicles? And I said what,

(20:48):
And he's like, yeah, the cubicles. When I bought cubicles
enough for to run a fifty person company. Everyone's sitting
in cubicles. And I said, well, why would you do that.
He said, well, I was going to do my own,
my own. Actually, you know, we should have them on
the We should have them on THEO to talk about that,
and then that that and then the other. The other

(21:10):
more disturbing thing is my my wife and I she
likes to watch these shows on the Netflix, the documentaries
about husbands killing wives or wives killing husbands or boy,
you know that Idaho thing she's on. She's on that,
you know, the Idaho murder where they killed others. She's
she's trying to figure that out. And she's like she's
studying that. And then but but she looked at me

(21:33):
the other day we had dinner and she looked at
me and she said, you know, Silas, sorry almost she's
his real name. Has uh, there's an unusual number of
Silas's paramours that are no longer with us. And then
we did the math and it's just about a handful
and uh, you know, is something to explore, something to explore.

(21:53):
But that's it, that's it, that's all I have. Get
them on and yep, that's that's it.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I can't do anymore.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
I will say that should you for some crazy reason,
they call you back and they go listen, we're gonna
film this boat show at the end of your doc, right,
so oh yes, you can basically just say yeah, well
that's fine.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
That would be spectacular. It would just be spectacular.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
We could sit down you and I for a couple
of minutes, we put together the list. Be easy to do,
put together the list, get those people all on the
boat for a couple of days, and spectacular. So it'll
be the episode ten dollars it. What do you win
for TV shows?

Speaker 3 (22:38):
A Grammy? An Emmy? What do you win? I think
it's an Emmy.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
I think it's an Emmy. We would win an Emmy.
It's either it's it's an Emmy, it's a Tony, it's
it's there's some.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
There's some award you get for TV shows and whatever
it is that episode going away, you win it.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
So I'm still into this gold Stallion thing. I'm trying
to figure it out. But anyway, yeah, we can do that.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Those guys on the boat now, they're old and probably
haven't done anything with themselves.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
You know, Croshety, you wouldn't do what overwere.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
That would be That will be it.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I'm gonna dig it into it.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Dig into it. And while you're digging into it, you know,
I mean, we can, as we always do. Let people know.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Listen, you you spent your time wisely by listening to
this program. We have stallions to vacation movies that turned
out not to be vacation movies, but it might have
been naked gun movies. Find your warning everybody to pay
attention because we're predicting after the first of the year,
it's going to get even crazier. I learned about a

(23:52):
boat show that you might be on, and I'm just
telling you right down.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
No no, no, no, no no no. I never said that.
That's still no no. I didn't say it was going
to be on it.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
No, I said you might be on.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well, listen, I'll do if you If you guys want
to go, if you guys are interested, let me know
and then we'll then we'll have a conversation.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
All right, Well I listen, I I'll tell you what man,
I would almost if you guys, if that were to
come to fruition, we did.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
What you said is true. We get to pick the
people to go on the boat.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I would be tempted to do that.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
So yeah, silas.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
You know what the beauty of the beauty of that
is that I know people who listen to this very
fine program think we're making the scrap up. They don't
think that these things that we've said have happened to
us have happened to us. They just think, you know,
we're storytellers and we're making it and that's nothing to
be further room truth.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Everything we talk about as in fact, happened.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
As we've described it. And if we did this episode,
people would then have to go son of those guys
were telling the truth because they could see it for
themselves above decks, below, decks, off the decks, whatever the
case may be, they would see it. And so you
know what, buddy, while we're in between episodes here where,

(25:09):
while we're letting people catch their breath, recover from all
the information we provided, you and I are got to
sit down and noodle our way through this, and then
once we've done it and we know where we're going
with it, we'll be back next week right here on
IP frequently.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
This has been IP frequently, once again, clearing a forest
of lies with the machete of truth.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
You're welcome
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