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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey man, I'm so glad that you were here. I'm Priscilla.
Welcome to the chat.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We get an opportunity to chat about a lot of
stuff around here that's going to be hopefully very very
exciting to you. I think today is going to be
very exciting. If it's not exciting for you, it's exciting
for me. I'm glad to be here because we get
to talk to one of my favorite people on the planet.
And let me just tell you, she's not only my
favorite because she has brought so much light and love
and beauty through music to.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Millions of people all over the entire world.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She's beautiful because behind closed doors, when the spotlights aren't
on her, she's just a woman of humility and integrity
who loves her family and loves the Lord and really
believes what she proclaims when a lot of people are around.
That's what I love about the pet One. They we're
going to be talking to her stick around who are
not going to want to miss?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Hey there, It is going to be a great day.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's a good day for you to be here because
we are talking to one of my favorite people in
the world. Her name is Miss CC and she's come
to join us to talk about just some things that
are important to us that she can offer us some
wisdom on. And then we're also going to talk about
some things that are important to her. And so it's
all going to happen today while you're here, which is
why you want to stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So please help me. Welcome CC why it's.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Beautiful, lady.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm good to see you, to.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
See you too. I want to make sure I get
on my spot.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yes, okay, So can I tell people your real name?
Because I happen to like your name.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So much, I happen to love yours. I happen to
love you. Yes, you can go right ahead and tell
them my real name.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Real name is Priscilla Love.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
That's right, Priscilla Marie loves.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh yes, straighten it up.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yes, beautiful name that I don't get to hear.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You don't get to hear it that often. Well, I
hear it enough for both of us, that's okay. I
want to know what it's like to walk around with
that voice in your head all the time and just
act like everything is normal.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Oh please, oh please? What is that? I don't think
i've ever heard it put that way to Sola. Well,
you know it's it's just it's a blessing to to
have a gift that God has given you to bring
people closer to him, you know. But but yeah, I'm
just a normal person with a voice, that's all.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
How old were you when you realized you had Did
someone else point out to you that you had this
gift or did.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You figure it out?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
My parents pointed it out to me. Yes, yes, I
was forced to sink No, I'm serious. I had no choice.
You know, it was back then when you didn't have
a choice. You know, new parents nowadays they give their
children choices. Maybe we need to.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Talk about that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Today. You're going to sing and you're going to lead
this song. And my first song that I led was
fil my cup Lord and eight years as an adult, right, Yes,
I thought since I was an adult, it would be
good for me to sing it without crying. Because for
the first few years, you know, it was during a
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conference that they would do every year back then, they
called a convocation. I had to sing feel my cup Lord,
and all my friends my age knew the point that
I would break down and cry. It happened every year.
But they saw the gift in me. And they kept
pushing me, and and probably a few years in I
realized that it was more than just a gift to sing,
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but God had anointed me to do something that was special.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, were you ever resentful of the push by
your parents? Did you ever just resent ministry or resent
singing or just all that cause your whole familure? You
were so inundated and surrounded by it all the time.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Right right? No, No, I was probably resemble at the time,
you know, at eight, you know, because I just didn't
want to do it. But but no, no, I found
out very soon on that this is where I was
supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now, why did you not want to do it?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Though?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
What did you want to do?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well? I mean I was very comfortable in singing, singing
in the background.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I always liked the background, Yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Background, the choir was fine. I never liked being a front,
like sitting up here with you now that I would
just never thought I would do.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
This, Okay, So people would find that hard to believe
that standing on a stage for you?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Is it still difficult today?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It's not difficult. I mean I still get a little
nervous before I start, but I think that's good. For anybody,
you know, because I'm always praying and depending on the
Holy Spirit. But but yeah, I was. I love being
in the background. I don't ever have to be out
front ever.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And you're just happy that way.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I'm so happy that I could stay at home, I
could be at my church, at my church choir, I
could just be a mom and a wife and I'm happy. Yeah,
But God, got.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Did you find that you had to.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Kind of really adjust your desires and adjust your willingness
to go with God in the direction you saw him
leading you? In other words, would you have been it
didn't require a lot for you to kind of go, Okay, Lord,
I'm gonna go against what I really want, which is
to stay at home and just do the wife and
mom thing in a regular traditional way.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And I'm really gonna have.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
To surrender yield to you in order to go with what.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I see you charting out as the path for me.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
No, it really wasn't difficult. It wasn't difficult again because
I started so early on. By the time I was sixteen,
I was singing and going everywhere doing different things. Seventeen,
I was a part of a PTL Christian network. The
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only thing I had to do was really just like
you said, surrender, but surrender in a way that I
gave God everything so that I could be used, so
that he could use me to the maximum. Every time
I stood before its people earlier on, because I saw
the anointing, I saw people's lives being changed, and I realized,
I think for everybody, when you really find where you're
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supposed to be, then that becomes home for you, even
if it's not what you want to do. You know,
even if it's not your most comfortable place. You know,
I'm not going to be happy doing anything else. You know,
this is my calling, this is what I was, this
is my purpose, this is why I was born. God
had this in mind from me before I was formed
in my mother's room, and so I've always had that
piece doing this. And so it's just the ongoing decisions
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that you have to make. You know, you know how
it is to live in the airport, living out of
a suitcase. You know, it's those everyday small sacrifices that
people don't really see that goes along with what we do.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yes, and you mentioned your family, and I want to
talk about your family because that is I think what
a lot of women don't get to hear about as
much from you that they want to know about. They
want to know how in the world are you balanced,
because you know, us normal folks can barely balance figured
out what's for dinner every night.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
That's like a a major.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Exercise for us is trying to figure out what am
I going to cook for dinner?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And how many get the laundry done?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And balance if I'm working outside the home and balance that. So,
how have you been able to keep your family a priority?
How have you struggled along the way to bring balance
to your life as a working mom?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, it's not a one word answer.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
To Yeah, come on, give it to it. We'll take
all of it.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
We'll take Well, the first answer is you already said
it that your family has to be priority. It has
to be first. And if that's really settled in your
mind and heart and you never get that twisted, then
you're going to be okay. You know, because God, I
am a wife and a mother first. That is my
first calling and so anything that jeopardizes that has to go.
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You know, you can't even contemplate it. You know, wonderful
husband who has supported me down through the years, will
be married. Well, we're married twenty nine years this year,
to be thirty years next year. Wow, working on thirty years.
And he's always been there for me two hundred percent.
You know, he recognized the call on my life. He
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knew that I didn't want to do it. I only
did it because it was a call. And so he
has always been there to support me. And without that,
there's no way I could have accomplished what I've accomplished.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And what what does that look like when you say
your husband's been there to support you, because you know,
traditionally speaking, it's this setting where the husband's supposed to
be supported by his wife in a traditional sense. So
what does it look like when you know, for many
wives that are in their home. I'm not saying this
is your situation, but for many wives, you know, they
both maybe work outside of the home, but maybe the
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wife makes more money, or she's gotten a promotion that
he hasn't gotten. Her career has taken off and his hasn't,
you know, just in the regular corporate world, right, And
so are many women struggling because maybe their their husbands
are feeling a little displaced by the fact that they're Yeah,
were intimidated by the fact that their wife is successful
in a particular region area of her life. So how
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did were you able to balance that?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
You have a lot of questions. They're not simple questions,
so they're very complex questions, but they're good questions because
that's it's different levels. First of all, Alvin, Alvin Love
is his name. When he told me his name was Love,
I was like, yeah, right, sure it is.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
You have a very handsome husband.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
By the way, yes, I think he's really cute. And
he gets cuter every year he gets older. Why is
that with men? They get older and get cuter. I'm like,
what is up with this? They can have the gray
show and they look distinguished and we like, no, that's
not going to work.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And you should know that her brothers did not want
her to marry Alvin at first.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
That's another whole story. Exactly. They had seven older brothers.
That's another whole testimony. But he was very secure in
who he was. And and you know, whenever whoever's in
the light, in the in the light and in the public,
they get all the attention. And sometimes your other path
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can get pushed aside and disrespected and all that. All
that incredible stuff that he has taken with a smile
all these years. But it's because he was solid in
who he was. People would call him sometime mister Wining
and it's like, well, no, that's not his name, but
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he could take it. You know. He loved me well,
but he understood that he was my covering. He understood
that no matter where God took me, it did not
diminish him. If anything, it brought him along with me.
We were one. And so because he was solid, he
was a man of God, he understood the importance of
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him praying for me, him covering me, him making those
sacrifices wasn't just about me, but it was for the
Kingdom of God. And then we had a lot of
great help. He was not a mister moms and I
don't get this thing twisted. He could not. I remember
one day I was out of town and I think
he attempted to do my daughter's hair and she was
fine until she walked past the mirror. She walked past
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the mirror, it just broke out cross. So I always
had great help. My mother was there when they were small,
when we all lived in Detroit, my mother in law
was there, my sister, so they all it was a
team effort, it was a family effort. And so whenever
I went out of town, I made sure they were
taking care of I made sure they had meals. I
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made sure that somebody was there to take them to school,
so my husband could could really continue the pattern and
the routine he was used to, you know, because he
worked a full time job and he was there for
them when they got home from school. And so I
made sure that the home was in place. You managed
it even if I wasn't there. I managed it to
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make sure that they had probably more than what they
would have, but I was there. My kids really end
up getting spoiled more because I was away.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Okay, how do you keep from feeling displaced as the
mother because you know our moms, my mom, my grandmother,
they didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Have no help.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know, they had meals hot on the table, and
all the laundry was folded and everything. I mean, I
just don't know to this day how my mother made
a Sunday dinner, that huge Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Spread she made every week and it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Was all hot at the same time with one oven.
I just can't one of Yes, yeah, now I have
one of it, and I cannot for the life of
me figured out how to get everything hot on the table.
So they did all the stuff, and they seemed to
do it without the help.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That's right, they did, so they did it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So how do you feel how do you keep yourself
or how did you keep yourself when your children were
smaller from feeling that sense of guilt that sometimes mom
feel when they when they need help and they've got
to ask, you know, they got to hire somebody once
a week or once every other week to come help
them cleaner. Sometimes I think.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I ever felt guilty for hiring help. I don't think
I ever felt guilty.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Just give us permission.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Should we all go home with permission from We have
permission for me to lose the guilt and get the help, yes,
the Lord.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
For me? No? No, because you know before I could
hire help. You know, I did those things, you know,
when I was home, I cooked, I cleaned, I I
folded the clothes. You know, like you said, my mom
had ooh, I only have two. I call them alf
and Omega. You know, my mom had ten kids. She
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had seven boy straight, three girls. She worked outside the home,
She cooked, did y'all do?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah? You know. Yeah, you start training those kids when
they're young for everybody to help out. You babysit this one,
you help this one, you know, and when you have
an army like that, you can do that. And so
so I did those things. But when I realized that,
you know, I was going to be gone or I
always had certain people to come in and help and
and I didn't feel guilty about that at all, because
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you know, I was there. I was the mom, I
was the wife. I'm I'm gonna spend the time and
and the good thing about what we do or what
I did. You know, when I'm gone, I'm gone. But
when I'm home, I'm home. I didn't work a regular job,
so if I wasn't on tour, I was home. You know,
I was able to take them to school and pick
'em up and go to the things. It's just those
certain times. And then I would limit the times I
would be away from home. You know, I wouldn't go
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out there. Well we have a month's tour. Well, no,
I can't do that. I have kids.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, you know, so I traveled with them. I know
you took 'em with them.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, when they got to a certain age, I took
them out of school and I put 'em in home school,
hire somebody to h to teach them. And they were
on the road with me, my husband, my children, all
of us was out on the road, and so family
always remained first. And if that meant all of us
going out on tour, we would do that. If that
meant hiring help, you know, to make sure everything was
in place, that's what we did, you know. But but
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I cannot exclude the most important thing, and that is
always staying preyed up, always allowing the Holy s fear
to lead. You know, a lot of times we try
to figure everything out on our own and we can't
with a formula.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And it's like the Holy Spirit has to leave you.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
What's good for your family?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yes, and for each child, you know, every child is different.
You know. For your husband to minister to your husband
in the right way, you have to pray. You have
to pray.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Don't you think.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Don't you think that we give each other as moms
such a hard time that if you're what's best for
your family does not look like what I'm doing with
my family. That sometimes we make each other feel so
bad because we just cast this judgment on the way
she's mothering her family, or that she's not homeschooling, or
she is homeschooling, or she travels a little bit, or
she works outside of the home, or she has someone
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to help her. Why can't she do it herself. I
think we give each other a hard time.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I think we give each other hard time. But more
so than that, I think we're so hard on ourselves,
you know. And God never expected us to do everything perfectly,
you know, but just according to His way. And that's
really everybody's perfect looks different. Yeah, you know, perfectionist you
being submitted to the Holy Spirit, and a lot of
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times perfection looks so far from perfection. But when you're
submitted to the Holy Spirit and you're loving according to
how the Word teaches us how to love, and you're
including Him in all your plans, you know. I had
to depend on that word. And Bible said, if you
acknowledge me in all our ways, he'll direct your path.
I had to depend on that. Lord. Look, I acknowledged you,
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and this is what I'm feeling in my spirit. This
has got to be you, you know. And as you
walk out in that daily you begin to trust and
you begin to really learn the Holy Spirit that the.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Voice you have to say.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Okay, Lord, I will take care of your business, but
I'm gonna trust you to take care of my business.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'll do my part.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Lord, I'm gonna ask you to do your part right,
and you know what to Just to all you're saying
about prioritizing family, I have to tell you that I remember,
and I've told you see this before, but I remember
being fourteen years old some kind of way after she
and her brother b B had done a concert. We
ended up at dinner together at the host's house, whoever
the host was of this particular event, and CC's kids
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were little, really little, and I remember, you know, here
I am a teenager and CC Winings is in the house,
and I was just like, you know, watch it everything.
I was just so excited to be there. And these
folks were trying to treat her like a celebrity, and oh,
CC wins is here, and they wanted her to come
in a certain room with just the adults. And I
will never forget watching her because she would she just
wouldn't have it. She wouldn't have anybody treating her like
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a celebrity and she was gonna mother her kids. They
wanted to kind of put the kids off to the
side so they could just be with CC and Bbie.
You were with those kids, and I will never forget
seeing that at fourteen years old, and seeing you prioritize
being their mom and not letting them feel pushed off
to the side. And some of the decisions that Jerry
and I have made as parents now and as people
that have to travel a lot and we're in ministry
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and stuff, some of those decisions I literally go back
in my head to what I saw happened that day
when I was fourteen.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And that's really helped to kind of govern decisions that
we make in parents pray. So it's like you never
know who's watching, You never know you know, and the
imprint that it makes on their life.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So thank you for prioritizing you got it.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
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Speaker 2 (19:28):
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Speaker 1 (20:27):
Now your children are how old?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Ooh? Children? My son is twenty eight and my daughters
just turned twenty six.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Can we just say we cannot believe you have children
that are almost thirty years old.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yes, you're trying to get them married off.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm praying for.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
They're really great kids, they really are. But yeah, I'm
looking forward to being a grandma. I was just gonna
ask you that I got to get them married off first.
That's it, according to the words, that's right. But yeah,
So do.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
You feel like as you look forward to this next
kind of of your life? You talked about you kids
getting older and get married and grandmother and all that.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Do you want to slow down some or.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Do you want to keep on at the pace you've
kind of held for the last few years.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Oh? No, I have to slow down. Yeah. I'm starting
to get signs here and there that I need to
slow down, you know, like a sign like today, I
was in the wrong place. That means I need to
stay home.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know, she showed up for our interview.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
For those of you who are watching, she showed up
for our interview at the wrong studio, so we had
to call her and redirect her faith.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That's a sign.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
You start getting signs like that it's like, Okay, you
know it's time for you to.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Slow down, but you made it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I made it. I made it. I made it. But yeah,
I look forward to slowing down. I think I will
always as long as I can sing, I will always
sing and lift up a praise into the Lord. But
I think it'll look differently. It's already starting to change.
I don't I don't travel as much as I used
to travel, but I still go quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Well, I know you're traveling with women of faith fits
and that you enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And you've got other things that you're doing as well.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Are you you have any new projects coming out?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yes, we need to know. Yes, it's coming out, probably
in spring twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Perfect.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yes, if I stay on this schedule I'm supposed to
be on. If it's a little later, just forgive me.
But it's coming. It's coming. Yeah, I'm really excited about it. Though.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I want to ask you, though, before we end this
time together, I want to ask you about the balance
of faith and fame. How do you keep that equilibrium?
How have you kept that equilibric Because we see so
many folks that kind of lose their integrity or lose
their humility along the way somewhere it all kind of
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gets lost in there, and you are and people like
you are really a breath of fresh air that we
just know that you just are the same person you
were two decades ago, and you still have the same
not just message when the lights are on, but when
you're in the quiet and nobody's looking, you just are
who you are.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
How do you think you've been able to maintain that?
What keeps that steady in your life?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Well? I think a lot of things going to that.
I think again, I go back to my parents, who
raised us in the church, but also raised us in
a way that we understood what ministry was all about,
and we understood that whatever platform God gave us was
not about us, but it was about Him. They taught
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us the importance of home church. You know, a lot
of times you asked a lot of believers do you
belong anywhere? Are you planted anywhere? Are you submitted to
somebody's leadership? And a lot of people aren't. And you
just can't make it that way. No, it wasn't designed
for us to make it that way. And so it
was really important that if I you know, went out
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and received an award of some sort that I came
back home and I was planted, and I heard the
word and I understood, oh, flesh has to die every day.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Or you come off of stage and you have a
baby and you know everybody else was just ah, and
you get your baby and they throw up on you.
It's like this, Yes, this is great humility class. You
started a church, did you? We did?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You and your husband We.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Just started a church, probably about a year and a
half ago.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So that's the else to balance. Yes, Now you're a
pastor's wife on top of it all.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yes, yes, yes, And so when you say balancing faith
and fame, your faith just has to be the most
important thing.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Keep it prioritized at the center.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
It goes back to priority. If you keep your relationship
with the Lord first, then everything else will fall into
the right place. Once you let anything else come before that,
then it's going to be out of balance. You know.
You you start believing your pressed when it's good, you
start believing when it's bad, and then you you're happy
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today and you're depressed tomorrow, and you're happy when's in
your depressed arriety. But when you stay plugged in, then
you're able to live a life like this. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, okay, personal question. You can tell me that you
don't want to answer it if you don't. Oh Lord,
here we go for But it is leading somewhere.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Okay, it's leading somewhere.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
How old are you?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Oh, that's no problem.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Oh, you can sell that.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Actually, I'm about to have a birthday, are you.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yes, I'm turning forty nine, turning forty nine.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, okay, so i'll be the Big five old next year.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Okay, all right, forty nine.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
The reason I asked you that question is because there
is something that I've heard happens in your forties.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
So I'm ten years younger than you.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Okay, okay, I've heard that in your forties you kind
of settle into this. You know, I am who I am.
I feel free to be who I am. I don't
need to impress anybody.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Any I don't worry.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm not worry about what y'all think about me.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yes, And I'm wondering if that happened for you before
forty because you're so comfortable in your own skin. We've
seen you be comfortable in your own skin for a
long time. Did you ever go through a season when
you were kind of wrapped up in I mean, you know,
being in front of people has been your life. Did
you have to grow up or mature in this area
of not needing to get the applause or not that
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you ever needed it or wanted it, but you just
you're okay, You're just okay with who you are the
way you look, just satisfied and settled.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yes, well, you grow into that, You grow into that.
I mean as a young artist. Again, I started out
as a kid. You know, I'm sixteen, seventeen years old,
and so you're always I don't think I was ever
to the point where it was where I had anxiety
attacks or anything like that. But as you get older,
you definitely get wiser and you definitely begin to appreciate
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all the things that maybe you didn't appreciate when you
were younger. You begin to see the beauty in the
life that you have and who you are. And so
that is a great thing about getting older. Yeah, yeah,
you understand that. Yeah, I got it. I got it
going on. Nobody else thinks that, because again that comes
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from the Lord as well. Your peace, your happiness, your joy,
your appreciation. You know, when you get older, the things
that used to worry about. It's like, really, I used
to get up type about that even in your marriage.
You know, as you grew in your marriage, the things
used to fall out about. Oh god, all the miss uh,
the emotional roller coasters. I used to get tired of myself.
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I knew my husband had to be tired of me
because I'm like, what you're crying about now, I don't know.
I don't know why I'm crying. So things just don't
matter that much.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Some of that stuff doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, you realize that it's not important at all.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Sould those of us who are in our twenties and
our thirties chill out now and you can have that now.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I don't think you have to wait until you get older.
I think a lot of us have because we probably
didn't listen to those that went on before us. But
if you listen to me now, okay, we're listening, you
could chill out now. You could be cool right now. Yeah,
just let it go, Yeah, just let it go. Just
let it go.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
In hindsight, looking back on two decades in ministry and
as a wife and as a mom, other than chill
out now, what would you say you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Would have maybe done differently.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I would have chilled out earlier. Yeah, differently, Differently, I
would have consulted the Holy Spirit more. I think as women,
as mothers, as wives, we kind of fall into doing
what we saw other people do, you know. And it's
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just I love my mom. She's she's an incredible Yes,
she is woman of God, incredible role model. I only
pray that I could be half as great as what
she is. But but everybody's different. Your life is. We
are really all unique, yeah, you know. And so I
did a lot of things just because they did it
that way. Yeah. And it's like, you know what, if
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I would have consulted the Holy Spirit and really prayed
over every decision, I wouldn't have gone through the suffering
that I went through, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So it's like you have to give yourself permission to
just walk your own Yes, yes, called you to be perfect.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yes, that's the way. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
That frees us up, doesn't it frees us up?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Mss CC is uh a wonderful gift, not just to
the church, not just to the Body of Christ, but
millions and millions and millions of people have been blessed
by our music. And we are so blessed to have
had her here with us today. We are gonna have
a part two to this conversation because she cares passionately
about out the next generation of men and women, and
so we're going to talk to her about what's encouraging
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her and discouraging her, about what she's seeing in the
next generation and how she thinks that she can help
and that we can help. So join us for part two,
but thank her for being here for part one.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Please part
Hey man, I'm so glad that you were here. I'm Priscilla.
Welcome to the chat.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We get an opportunity to chat about a lot of
stuff around here that's going to be hopefully very very
exciting to you. I think today is going to be
very exciting. If it's not exciting for you, it's exciting
for me. I'm glad to be here because we get
to talk to one of my favorite people on the planet.
And let me just tell you, she's not only my
favorite because she has brought so much light and love
and beauty through music to.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Millions of people all over the entire world.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She's beautiful because behind closed doors, when the spotlights aren't
on her, she's just a woman of humility and integrity
who loves her family and loves the Lord and really
believes what she proclaims when a lot of people are around.
That's what I love about the pet One. They we're
going to be talking to her stick around who are
not going to want to miss?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Hey there, It is going to be a great day.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's a good day for you to be here because
we are talking to one of my favorite people in
the world. Her name is Miss CC and she's come
to join us to talk about just some things that
are important to us that she can offer us some
wisdom on. And then we're also going to talk about
some things that are important to her. And so it's
all going to happen today while you're here, which is
why you want to stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So please help me. Welcome CC why it's.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Beautiful, lady.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm good to see you, to.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
See you too. I want to make sure I get
on my spot.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yes, okay, So can I tell people your real name?
Because I happen to like your name.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So much, I happen to love yours. I happen to
love you. Yes, you can go right ahead and tell
them my real name.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Real name is Priscilla Love.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
That's right, Priscilla Marie loves.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh yes, straighten it up.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yes, beautiful name that I don't get to hear.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You don't get to hear it that often. Well, I
hear it enough for both of us, that's okay. I
want to know what it's like to walk around with
that voice in your head all the time and just
act like everything is normal.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Oh please, oh please? What is that? I don't think
i've ever heard it put that way to Sola. Well,
you know it's it's just it's a blessing to to
have a gift that God has given you to bring
people closer to him, you know. But but yeah, I'm
just a normal person with a voice, that's all.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
How old were you when you realized you had Did
someone else point out to you that you had this
gift or did.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You figure it out?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
My parents pointed it out to me. Yes, yes, I
was forced to sink No, I'm serious. I had no choice.
You know, it was back then when you didn't have
a choice. You know, new parents nowadays they give their
children choices. Maybe we need to.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Talk about that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Today. You're going to sing and you're going to lead
this song. And my first song that I led was
fil my cup Lord and eight years as an adult, right, Yes,
I thought since I was an adult, it would be
good for me to sing it without crying. Because for
the first few years, you know, it was during a
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conference that they would do every year back then, they
called a convocation. I had to sing feel my cup Lord,
and all my friends my age knew the point that
I would break down and cry. It happened every year.
But they saw the gift in me. And they kept
pushing me, and and probably a few years in I
realized that it was more than just a gift to sing,
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but God had anointed me to do something that was special.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, were you ever resentful of the push by
your parents? Did you ever just resent ministry or resent
singing or just all that cause your whole familure? You
were so inundated and surrounded by it all the time.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Right right? No, No, I was probably resemble at the time,
you know, at eight, you know, because I just didn't
want to do it. But but no, no, I found
out very soon on that this is where I was
supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now, why did you not want to do it?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Though?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
What did you want to do?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well? I mean I was very comfortable in singing, singing
in the background.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I always liked the background, Yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Background, the choir was fine. I never liked being a front,
like sitting up here with you now that I would
just never thought I would do.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
This, Okay, So people would find that hard to believe
that standing on a stage for you?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Is it still difficult today?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It's not difficult. I mean I still get a little
nervous before I start, but I think that's good. For anybody,
you know, because I'm always praying and depending on the
Holy Spirit. But but yeah, I was. I love being
in the background. I don't ever have to be out
front ever.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And you're just happy that way.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I'm so happy that I could stay at home, I
could be at my church, at my church choir, I
could just be a mom and a wife and I'm happy. Yeah,
But God, got.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Did you find that you had to.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Kind of really adjust your desires and adjust your willingness
to go with God in the direction you saw him
leading you? In other words, would you have been it
didn't require a lot for you to kind of go, Okay, Lord,
I'm gonna go against what I really want, which is
to stay at home and just do the wife and
mom thing in a regular traditional way.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And I'm really gonna have.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
To surrender yield to you in order to go with what.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I see you charting out as the path for me.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
No, it really wasn't difficult. It wasn't difficult again because
I started so early on. By the time I was sixteen,
I was singing and going everywhere doing different things. Seventeen,
I was a part of a PTL Christian network. The
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only thing I had to do was really just like
you said, surrender, but surrender in a way that I
gave God everything so that I could be used, so
that he could use me to the maximum. Every time
I stood before its people earlier on, because I saw
the anointing, I saw people's lives being changed, and I realized,
I think for everybody, when you really find where you're
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supposed to be, then that becomes home for you, even
if it's not what you want to do. You know,
even if it's not your most comfortable place. You know,
I'm not going to be happy doing anything else. You know,
this is my calling, this is what I was, this
is my purpose, this is why I was born. God
had this in mind from me before I was formed
in my mother's room, and so I've always had that
piece doing this. And so it's just the ongoing decisions
(06:44):
that you have to make. You know, you know how
it is to live in the airport, living out of
a suitcase. You know, it's those everyday small sacrifices that
people don't really see that goes along with what we do.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yes, and you mentioned your family, and I want to
talk about your family because that is I think what
a lot of women don't get to hear about as
much from you that they want to know about. They
want to know how in the world are you balanced,
because you know, us normal folks can barely balance figured
out what's for dinner every night.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
That's like a a major.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Exercise for us is trying to figure out what am
I going to cook for dinner?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And how many get the laundry done?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And balance if I'm working outside the home and balance that. So,
how have you been able to keep your family a priority?
How have you struggled along the way to bring balance
to your life as a working mom?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, it's not a one word answer.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
To Yeah, come on, give it to it. We'll take
all of it.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
We'll take Well, the first answer is you already said
it that your family has to be priority. It has
to be first. And if that's really settled in your
mind and heart and you never get that twisted, then
you're going to be okay. You know, because God, I
am a wife and a mother first. That is my
first calling and so anything that jeopardizes that has to go.
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You know, you can't even contemplate it. You know, wonderful
husband who has supported me down through the years, will
be married. Well, we're married twenty nine years this year,
to be thirty years next year. Wow, working on thirty years.
And he's always been there for me two hundred percent.
You know, he recognized the call on my life. He
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knew that I didn't want to do it. I only
did it because it was a call. And so he
has always been there to support me. And without that,
there's no way I could have accomplished what I've accomplished.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And what what does that look like when you say
your husband's been there to support you, because you know,
traditionally speaking, it's this setting where the husband's supposed to
be supported by his wife in a traditional sense. So
what does it look like when you know, for many
wives that are in their home. I'm not saying this
is your situation, but for many wives, you know, they
both maybe work outside of the home, but maybe the
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wife makes more money, or she's gotten a promotion that
he hasn't gotten. Her career has taken off and his hasn't,
you know, just in the regular corporate world, right, And
so are many women struggling because maybe their their husbands
are feeling a little displaced by the fact that they're Yeah,
were intimidated by the fact that their wife is successful
in a particular region area of her life. So how
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did were you able to balance that?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
You have a lot of questions. They're not simple questions,
so they're very complex questions, but they're good questions because
that's it's different levels. First of all, Alvin, Alvin Love
is his name. When he told me his name was Love,
I was like, yeah, right, sure it is.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
You have a very handsome husband.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
By the way, yes, I think he's really cute. And
he gets cuter every year he gets older. Why is
that with men? They get older and get cuter. I'm like,
what is up with this? They can have the gray
show and they look distinguished and we like, no, that's
not going to work.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And you should know that her brothers did not want
her to marry Alvin at first.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
That's another whole story. Exactly. They had seven older brothers.
That's another whole testimony. But he was very secure in
who he was. And and you know, whenever whoever's in
the light, in the in the light and in the public,
they get all the attention. And sometimes your other path
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can get pushed aside and disrespected and all that. All
that incredible stuff that he has taken with a smile
all these years. But it's because he was solid in
who he was. People would call him sometime mister Wining
and it's like, well, no, that's not his name, but
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he could take it. You know. He loved me well,
but he understood that he was my covering. He understood
that no matter where God took me, it did not
diminish him. If anything, it brought him along with me.
We were one. And so because he was solid, he
was a man of God, he understood the importance of
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him praying for me, him covering me, him making those
sacrifices wasn't just about me, but it was for the
Kingdom of God. And then we had a lot of
great help. He was not a mister moms and I
don't get this thing twisted. He could not. I remember
one day I was out of town and I think
he attempted to do my daughter's hair and she was
fine until she walked past the mirror. She walked past
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the mirror, it just broke out cross. So I always
had great help. My mother was there when they were small,
when we all lived in Detroit, my mother in law
was there, my sister, so they all it was a
team effort, it was a family effort. And so whenever
I went out of town, I made sure they were
taking care of I made sure they had meals. I
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made sure that somebody was there to take them to school,
so my husband could could really continue the pattern and
the routine he was used to, you know, because he
worked a full time job and he was there for
them when they got home from school. And so I
made sure that the home was in place. You managed
it even if I wasn't there. I managed it to
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make sure that they had probably more than what they
would have, but I was there. My kids really end
up getting spoiled more because I was away.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Okay, how do you keep from feeling displaced as the
mother because you know our moms, my mom, my grandmother,
they didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Have no help.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know, they had meals hot on the table, and
all the laundry was folded and everything. I mean, I
just don't know to this day how my mother made
a Sunday dinner, that huge Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Spread she made every week and it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Was all hot at the same time with one oven.
I just can't one of Yes, yeah, now I have
one of it, and I cannot for the life of
me figured out how to get everything hot on the table.
So they did all the stuff, and they seemed to
do it without the help.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That's right, they did, so they did it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So how do you feel how do you keep yourself
or how did you keep yourself when your children were
smaller from feeling that sense of guilt that sometimes mom
feel when they when they need help and they've got
to ask, you know, they got to hire somebody once
a week or once every other week to come help
them cleaner. Sometimes I think.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I ever felt guilty for hiring help. I don't think
I ever felt guilty.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Just give us permission.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Should we all go home with permission from We have
permission for me to lose the guilt and get the help, yes,
the Lord.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
For me? No? No, because you know before I could
hire help. You know, I did those things, you know,
when I was home, I cooked, I cleaned, I I
folded the clothes. You know, like you said, my mom
had ooh, I only have two. I call them alf
and Omega. You know, my mom had ten kids. She
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had seven boy straight, three girls. She worked outside the home,
She cooked, did y'all do?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah? You know. Yeah, you start training those kids when
they're young for everybody to help out. You babysit this one,
you help this one, you know, and when you have
an army like that, you can do that. And so
so I did those things. But when I realized that,
you know, I was going to be gone or I
always had certain people to come in and help and
and I didn't feel guilty about that at all, because
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you know, I was there. I was the mom, I
was the wife. I'm I'm gonna spend the time and
and the good thing about what we do or what
I did. You know, when I'm gone, I'm gone. But
when I'm home, I'm home. I didn't work a regular job,
so if I wasn't on tour, I was home. You know,
I was able to take them to school and pick
'em up and go to the things. It's just those
certain times. And then I would limit the times I
would be away from home. You know, I wouldn't go
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out there. Well we have a month's tour. Well, no,
I can't do that. I have kids.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, you know, so I traveled with them. I know
you took 'em with them.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, when they got to a certain age, I took
them out of school and I put 'em in home school,
hire somebody to h to teach them. And they were
on the road with me, my husband, my children, all
of us was out on the road, and so family
always remained first. And if that meant all of us
going out on tour, we would do that. If that
meant hiring help, you know, to make sure everything was
in place, that's what we did, you know. But but
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I cannot exclude the most important thing, and that is
always staying preyed up, always allowing the Holy s fear
to lead. You know, a lot of times we try
to figure everything out on our own and we can't
with a formula.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And it's like the Holy Spirit has to leave you.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
What's good for your family?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yes, and for each child, you know, every child is different.
You know. For your husband to minister to your husband
in the right way, you have to pray. You have
to pray.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Don't you think.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Don't you think that we give each other as moms
such a hard time that if you're what's best for
your family does not look like what I'm doing with
my family. That sometimes we make each other feel so
bad because we just cast this judgment on the way
she's mothering her family, or that she's not homeschooling, or
she is homeschooling, or she travels a little bit, or
she works outside of the home, or she has someone
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to help her. Why can't she do it herself. I
think we give each other a hard time.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I think we give each other hard time. But more
so than that, I think we're so hard on ourselves,
you know. And God never expected us to do everything perfectly,
you know, but just according to His way. And that's
really everybody's perfect looks different. Yeah, you know, perfectionist you
being submitted to the Holy Spirit, and a lot of
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times perfection looks so far from perfection. But when you're
submitted to the Holy Spirit and you're loving according to
how the Word teaches us how to love, and you're
including Him in all your plans, you know. I had
to depend on that word. And Bible said, if you
acknowledge me in all our ways, he'll direct your path.
I had to depend on that. Lord. Look, I acknowledged you,
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and this is what I'm feeling in my spirit. This
has got to be you, you know. And as you
walk out in that daily you begin to trust and
you begin to really learn the Holy Spirit that the.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Voice you have to say.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Okay, Lord, I will take care of your business, but
I'm gonna trust you to take care of my business.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'll do my part.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Lord, I'm gonna ask you to do your part right,
and you know what to Just to all you're saying
about prioritizing family, I have to tell you that I remember,
and I've told you see this before, but I remember
being fourteen years old some kind of way after she
and her brother b B had done a concert. We
ended up at dinner together at the host's house, whoever
the host was of this particular event, and CC's kids
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were little, really little, and I remember, you know, here
I am a teenager and CC Winings is in the house,
and I was just like, you know, watch it everything.
I was just so excited to be there. And these
folks were trying to treat her like a celebrity, and oh,
CC wins is here, and they wanted her to come
in a certain room with just the adults. And I
will never forget watching her because she would she just
wouldn't have it. She wouldn't have anybody treating her like
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a celebrity and she was gonna mother her kids. They
wanted to kind of put the kids off to the
side so they could just be with CC and Bbie.
You were with those kids, and I will never forget
seeing that at fourteen years old, and seeing you prioritize
being their mom and not letting them feel pushed off
to the side. And some of the decisions that Jerry
and I have made as parents now and as people
that have to travel a lot and we're in ministry
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and stuff, some of those decisions I literally go back
in my head to what I saw happened that day
when I was fourteen.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And that's really helped to kind of govern decisions that
we make in parents pray. So it's like you never
know who's watching, You never know you know, and the
imprint that it makes on their life.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So thank you for prioritizing you got it.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Thank you, and.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
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Speaker 4 (20:08):
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Speaker 2 (20:15):
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Speaker 1 (20:27):
Now your children are how old?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Ooh? Children? My son is twenty eight and my daughters
just turned twenty six.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Can we just say we cannot believe you have children
that are almost thirty years old.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yes, you're trying to get them married off.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm praying for.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
They're really great kids, they really are. But yeah, I'm
looking forward to being a grandma. I was just gonna
ask you that I got to get them married off first.
That's it, according to the words, that's right. But yeah,
So do.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
You feel like as you look forward to this next
kind of of your life? You talked about you kids
getting older and get married and grandmother and all that.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Do you want to slow down some or.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Do you want to keep on at the pace you've
kind of held for the last few years.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Oh? No, I have to slow down. Yeah. I'm starting
to get signs here and there that I need to
slow down, you know, like a sign like today, I
was in the wrong place. That means I need to
stay home.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know, she showed up for our interview.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
For those of you who are watching, she showed up
for our interview at the wrong studio, so we had
to call her and redirect her faith.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That's a sign.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
You start getting signs like that it's like, Okay, you
know it's time for you to.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Slow down, but you made it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I made it. I made it. I made it. But yeah,
I look forward to slowing down. I think I will
always as long as I can sing, I will always
sing and lift up a praise into the Lord. But
I think it'll look differently. It's already starting to change.
I don't I don't travel as much as I used
to travel, but I still go quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Well, I know you're traveling with women of faith fits
and that you enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And you've got other things that you're doing as well.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Are you you have any new projects coming out?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yes, we need to know. Yes, it's coming out, probably
in spring twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Perfect.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yes, if I stay on this schedule I'm supposed to
be on. If it's a little later, just forgive me.
But it's coming. It's coming. Yeah, I'm really excited about it. Though.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I want to ask you, though, before we end this
time together, I want to ask you about the balance
of faith and fame. How do you keep that equilibrium?
How have you kept that equilibric Because we see so
many folks that kind of lose their integrity or lose
their humility along the way somewhere it all kind of
(22:32):
gets lost in there, and you are and people like
you are really a breath of fresh air that we
just know that you just are the same person you
were two decades ago, and you still have the same
not just message when the lights are on, but when
you're in the quiet and nobody's looking, you just are
who you are.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
How do you think you've been able to maintain that?
What keeps that steady in your life?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Well? I think a lot of things going to that.
I think again, I go back to my parents, who
raised us in the church, but also raised us in
a way that we understood what ministry was all about,
and we understood that whatever platform God gave us was
not about us, but it was about Him. They taught
(23:16):
us the importance of home church. You know, a lot
of times you asked a lot of believers do you
belong anywhere? Are you planted anywhere? Are you submitted to
somebody's leadership? And a lot of people aren't. And you
just can't make it that way. No, it wasn't designed
for us to make it that way. And so it
was really important that if I you know, went out
(23:37):
and received an award of some sort that I came
back home and I was planted, and I heard the
word and I understood, oh, flesh has to die every day.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Or you come off of stage and you have a
baby and you know everybody else was just ah, and
you get your baby and they throw up on you.
It's like this, Yes, this is great humility class. You
started a church, did you? We did?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You and your husband We.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Just started a church, probably about a year and a
half ago.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So that's the else to balance. Yes, Now you're a
pastor's wife on top of it all.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yes, yes, yes, And so when you say balancing faith
and fame, your faith just has to be the most
important thing.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Keep it prioritized at the center.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
It goes back to priority. If you keep your relationship
with the Lord first, then everything else will fall into
the right place. Once you let anything else come before that,
then it's going to be out of balance. You know.
You you start believing your pressed when it's good, you
start believing when it's bad, and then you you're happy
(24:41):
today and you're depressed tomorrow, and you're happy when's in
your depressed arriety. But when you stay plugged in, then
you're able to live a life like this. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, okay, personal question. You can tell me that you
don't want to answer it if you don't. Oh Lord,
here we go for But it is leading somewhere.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Okay, it's leading somewhere.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
How old are you?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Oh, that's no problem.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Oh, you can sell that.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Actually, I'm about to have a birthday, are you.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yes, I'm turning forty nine, turning forty nine.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, okay, so i'll be the Big five old next year.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Okay, all right, forty nine.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
The reason I asked you that question is because there
is something that I've heard happens in your forties.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
So I'm ten years younger than you.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Okay, okay, I've heard that in your forties you kind
of settle into this. You know, I am who I am.
I feel free to be who I am. I don't
need to impress anybody.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Any I don't worry.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm not worry about what y'all think about me.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yes, And I'm wondering if that happened for you before
forty because you're so comfortable in your own skin. We've
seen you be comfortable in your own skin for a
long time. Did you ever go through a season when
you were kind of wrapped up in I mean, you know,
being in front of people has been your life. Did
you have to grow up or mature in this area
of not needing to get the applause or not that
(25:50):
you ever needed it or wanted it, but you just
you're okay, You're just okay with who you are the
way you look, just satisfied and settled.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yes, well, you grow into that, You grow into that.
I mean as a young artist. Again, I started out
as a kid. You know, I'm sixteen, seventeen years old,
and so you're always I don't think I was ever
to the point where it was where I had anxiety
attacks or anything like that. But as you get older,
you definitely get wiser and you definitely begin to appreciate
(26:18):
all the things that maybe you didn't appreciate when you
were younger. You begin to see the beauty in the
life that you have and who you are. And so
that is a great thing about getting older. Yeah, yeah,
you understand that. Yeah, I got it. I got it
going on. Nobody else thinks that, because again that comes
(26:39):
from the Lord as well. Your peace, your happiness, your joy,
your appreciation. You know, when you get older, the things
that used to worry about. It's like, really, I used
to get up type about that even in your marriage.
You know, as you grew in your marriage, the things
used to fall out about. Oh god, all the miss uh,
the emotional roller coasters. I used to get tired of myself.
(27:00):
I knew my husband had to be tired of me
because I'm like, what you're crying about now, I don't know.
I don't know why I'm crying. So things just don't
matter that much.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Some of that stuff doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, you realize that it's not important at all.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Sould those of us who are in our twenties and
our thirties chill out now and you can have that now.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I don't think you have to wait until you get older.
I think a lot of us have because we probably
didn't listen to those that went on before us. But
if you listen to me now, okay, we're listening, you
could chill out now. You could be cool right now. Yeah,
just let it go, Yeah, just let it go. Just
let it go.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
In hindsight, looking back on two decades in ministry and
as a wife and as a mom, other than chill
out now, what would you say you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Would have maybe done differently.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I would have chilled out earlier. Yeah, differently, Differently, I
would have consulted the Holy Spirit more. I think as women,
as mothers, as wives, we kind of fall into doing
what we saw other people do, you know. And it's
(28:04):
just I love my mom. She's she's an incredible Yes,
she is woman of God, incredible role model. I only
pray that I could be half as great as what
she is. But but everybody's different. Your life is. We
are really all unique, yeah, you know. And so I
did a lot of things just because they did it
that way. Yeah. And it's like, you know what, if
(28:25):
I would have consulted the Holy Spirit and really prayed
over every decision, I wouldn't have gone through the suffering
that I went through, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So it's like you have to give yourself permission to
just walk your own Yes, yes, called you to be perfect.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yes, that's the way. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
That frees us up, doesn't it frees us up?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Mss CC is uh a wonderful gift, not just to
the church, not just to the Body of Christ, but
millions and millions and millions of people have been blessed
by our music. And we are so blessed to have
had her here with us today. We are gonna have
a part two to this conversation because she cares passionately
about out the next generation of men and women, and
so we're going to talk to her about what's encouraging
(29:05):
her and discouraging her, about what she's seeing in the
next generation and how she thinks that she can help
and that we can help. So join us for part two,
but thank her for being here for part one.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Please part
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