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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey there, I'm Priscilla. Thank you so much for joining
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Stay tuned. Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I had a friend of mine who is single, say
to me recently, Priscilla, I do.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Not think I want to get married. And I said
to her, why why don't you want to get married?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And she said, because all of the married people around
me make marriage look miserable. Every time I'm talking to
them about what it is to be married, they're just
complaining or they're whining about something. They are the worst
advertisers for marriage. And have you ever had people talk
to you about marriage and it just sounds depressing?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So I'm listening to.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
My friend that I'm thinking, man, we got to find
a way to be better advertisers. For marriage, because we
need to be in marriages where we are happy and
content and fulfilled. So while I was thinking about this,
I came across this little book by a woman who
is writing about what it means to just be a
happy wife.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And I've been very intrigued by.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Everything that she's discovered as she has literally traveled around
the globe, as she's gone to different cultures, different races,
different backgrounds. She wanted to find as many happy wives
as she could and then try to figure out what
was the common thread that made these women content in
their role as wives. So listen, whether you are a
single woman or you are a married woman, you were
going to want to stay tuned as we interview an
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incredible a woman who really is changing the way marriage looks.
Would you please help me to welcome Fon Weaver to
the program today. Hi, fine, come.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
On in, have a tea, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Cozy yourself up in those pillows there, my friend. We
have a lot of talking to do because there are
a lot of women who are very, very unhappy in
their marriages, and I want to talk to you, first
of all about why you even went out on this
quest to find out what makes a happy marriage.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Why was that even important to you?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, A part of it was is because I knew
you and I weren't the only ones you were happily married,
and I had so many friends around me who actually
were happily married. And as you said, there's so many
that are bad advertisements, and then all the ones that
were happily married are not advertising at all, just completely silent.
So you really just had one side of the demographic
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that's telling the entire service, the vocal ones. They're the
vocal ones. So you have fifty three percent of marriages
that succeed, forty seven percent that fail, and all eyes
are on that forty seven percent, And I said, I
want to know what the top ten percent of that
fifty three percent is doing.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Okay, do you think that media? Do you think that
movies entertainment? Do you think that it is controversial and
good TV to sort of highlight the bad? And so
that's why we're also seeing more of that kind of
broadcast it out there for us to see.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think it's twofold. I think that number one. When
you meet folks in Hollywood, so many of them are miserable.
So what they're writing about is truly their lives. But
Hollywood isn't reality, so you have the people behind the
scenes that are really playing out their lives in front
of the camera. That's a part of it. The other
part of it is is happy doesn't sale?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, drama sells drama self.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
The miserable wife, the nagging wife, the annoying wife, and
the cheating husband. That sells. It sells magazines, it sells
television shows, it sells everything that there is to be sold.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So you decided you're going to figure out how to
highlight the top ten percent of the fifty three percent
of wives that are happy in their relationships.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And I'm just randomly choosing a ten percent number, So
it was just the top portion of that that are
genuinely happy. This doesn't mean the ones that sweep things
under the rug and pretend that everything is okay when
they're in the public. I mean the ones that behind
closed doors, every person in the community, every person in
their family would say they're the real deal. That couple
right there has been happily married twenty five years or more.
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They've got something to teach you.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Okay, how are you defining happy?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I'm defining happy the way anyone else would define happy.
Whatever makes you happy.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So just feeling whole content, satisfied with what you have.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I think there's a difference between satisfied and happy though, Okay,
come because I know plenty of people that are satisfied,
but you would not necessarily say that they are. They
would not describe themselves as happy. So, for instance, you
have so many that compare their marriages to other marriages,
and if they just focused on them their own marriage
and their own really relationship, they would be happy there
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but grass. But then when you compare what you have
to someone else's, you compare your real life to their highlights.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Because everybody's instagramming their highlights.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You do know that, right what we're seeing on Instagram
has eighteen different filters.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It was their day or their.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Way, absolutely, and so you're comparing it to the highlights.
So when you're talking about how do you define happiness?
I say this, when you look at yourself and you
ask yourself what makes me happy? And then figure out
do you have those things? And not meaning things like
things you buy?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, virtues absolutely, the attributes of life that make you happy.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, So you decide.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You were going to not just interview the people that
live in your neck of the woods. You decided to
go on a real, huge, vast journey. What did that
look like and how did you choose the places in
the world where you went.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well, I chose the places that I went based on
people that I knew around the world. So I reached
out to people. I was in the hotel industry before,
and so I knew so many people from around the world,
and I would reach out and say, this is what
I am trying to do. I am trying to find
that couple. I mean literally that couple that everyone will
point to and say, if we could all have a
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marriage like that couple, that's who we want.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And we're still holding hand.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
They're still holding hands, and they've been through everything. They've
been through, you know, infertility, miscarriages, they've been through finances high,
finances low, They've been through everything, and twenty five years
or late years later, they are still looking into each
other's eyes. They're laughing at each other's jokes. They're not
tearing each other's down. They won't hang out around anyone
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who tears their spouse down. I want to get to
those people, and so I reached out to everyone and said,
point me to those two couples, and I would get
on a plane and fly to wherever that country was.
There ago I went. I started in Canada, and I
went to South Africa, and then I went to Mauritius.
I went to the Philippines, to New Zealand, Australia, to gosh,
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where else did I go? I don't want to forget
any of these. London, Croatia, Rome, I was. I was
all over the place, and the thing that was fascinating
to me is I went to six different continents. Y'all. Antarctica.
There's no one there.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I tried, I really tried nobody.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I tried anybody. There is one thing.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's cold.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
It's cold.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I tried to do all seven continents, and finally I
reached back out to my publisher. I said, guys, that's
seventh continent. Not gonna happen. But on those six continents,
what made a wife happy and a husband happy was
the same, no matter the background, no matter the religion,
no matter where you were raised, how much you have
in the bank, the principles were the same. And there
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are twelve common denominators.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Okay, give us a few of those we're sitting on
the edge of our seat. One makes a happy spouse
in marriage.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, this is the interesting thing, the number one thing
when I would sit down with the wives or the couples,
for most of the time I sat down with couples,
if I asked the question, what is that one thing
if you told me write one thing in this book
and do not forget it, what is that one thing
that I cannot forget? To say, almost every single one,
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the very first thing that would come out of their
mouth mutual.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Respect, mutual respect.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Mutual It's got to go both ways.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Now, you know, that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's interesting to me because I would expect that maybe
the wife would think that her husband needs respect.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yes, yes, But.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Then I would think that his response yes might revolve
around something else.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right, you would think, let me tell you, so this
is this is This is the funny thing that when
you sit down with happily married women, there is a
there is a connecting dot between all of the women
that I sat down with. They were all strong, okay,
they all knew who they were, and they all, every
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single one of them, no matter where they were in life,
no matter how great their careers were, I interviewed one
woman who was one of the top plastic surgeons in
the world. She's married to a judge and to watch
them dote over each other was the best thing ever,
because when you are a strong woman, you realize doting
over your husband doesn't.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Make you weak.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
That's right, and that respect. Because you're giving it, they
want to give it back. And so for every wife
that I sat down with, it was almost almost instantaneous
what would come out of their mouth mutual respect.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Okay, So then that means the flip side of the
coin of that if happiness in a relationship and contentment
and fulfillment is found in mutual respect, that means the
flip side of the coin is that those who are
in an unhappy place in their life, one of the
reasons could be that they're not respecting that their spouse.
They don't have enough security in and of themselves that
they're able to build up and dote over and lift
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up that other individual because there's an insecurity in them
that causes are to be maybe competition.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Absolutely, and then you end up in a home with
competing spouses, which is completely unnecessary. You're to be on
the same team. So when you sit down with couples
that have been happily married for twenty five years or more.
The big difference between those that are happily married and
those that are unhappily married when they go through challenges
is those that are unhappily married when they're going through
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a challenge, they go in opposite directions of each other.
They start pointing swords at each other. The couples that
are happily married, they go through the exact same challenge,
but the difference is is they team up together and
they turn their source against the challenge.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, so they see themselves as a unit as opposed
to you, me, let's fight it our own unique ways.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, it was I was doing a talk for a
financial seminar, and this was a little while ago, right
after the book came out, and one of the financial
advisors said, you know, we get so many couples in
here that are on the brink of divorce and it
has to do with their finances and all of the
money problems that they're having. And so what would you
say is something that keeps couples together even when they're
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having financial challenges. And the story I told him is
the first time I came into Nashville. You've come into
Nashville when it's been raining outside, right, Okay, So I'm
coming into Nashville. This was my first experience. And we're
coming in and it says we're going to have slight turbulences.
So we're coming in and literally the plane just yeah
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and keeps going. I don't know how far we were dropping,
but the poor guy sitting in the center seat was sweating.
He had on headsets and he's just like, yeah, poor thing. Yeah,
and it keeps doing that. I turn around and look
at the flight attendant and she's like, la.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
La la la la. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And I mean, we start going through these turbulences, and
as we get closer, she starts coming through the aisle
to pick up trash. Everyone on that plane things they're
about to lose their life. The difference is is she
already knows the ending. She knows that ninety nine percent
of those planes that go through those kind of turbulences
are going to land, and they're going to land just fine.
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So she had been through it so many times it
wasn't a big deal. And so for so many couples,
the real big difference between is. We were both on
the same plane, this guy sweating who thought he was
going to lose his life, and this woman who's like,
anyone have trash, trash? Anyone can I pick up your trash?
Same exact situation. It's how you handle it that makes
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the difference.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
All right, Well, Vaughn Weaver's taking out the trash today
and all of our marriages.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yes, she is. We'll be right back in just a
couple of minutes. Stay tuned.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So, Hi, I'm Priscilla, and I wanted to take an
opportunity to invite you personally to join me for a
seven session Bible study on the Armor of God. We'll
dive deep into what it means to be equipped to
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Speaker 2 (13:16):
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Speaker 1 (13:29):
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Speaker 1 (13:52):
Hey there, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
We've been having a very interesting conversation with von Weaver,
who's the author of incredible books, one of which is
called The Argument Free Marriage.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
We all need to get a hold of that one.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Don't we.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But also the Happy Wives Club, and that's really what
we're talking about today. There are one nearly one million
women that have literally joined the Happy Wives Club.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
You can too at the Happywivesclub dot.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Com and it enables you to just be connected with
other women who are choosing happiness in their marriages and
in their lives. And we are learning some of the
principles about what it means to be a happy wife
from this woman who traveled all around the globe literally
to talk about couples who were happy. I'm really intrigued
and want to just sit for just a few minutes
on this topic of a woman doting on building up
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the ego really of guy. I don't think that we
really realize the power and the strength and the benefit
that comes back to us when we really build that
guy up, that ego.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Is serious business.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's serious business, and it's so fragile. Yeah, it's so fragile.
And so when people ask me, you know, with the
issue of really connecting with your spouse and how do
you get your spouse to truly trust you this fragile ego,
it's a big deal deal and being able to lift
your spouse up, being able to and for women especially,
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And we were saying this during the break. I don't
really know when it happened. I'm thirty nine, I'll be
forty next year, and so what the first two waves
of the feminist movement kind of were before us. But
when I sat down with one of the women, I said,
what do you think it is? And she was there
for every wave of the feminist movement, and she said,
here's the problem with the feminist movement. With all of
the good that it did, and I believe that it
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did good, the problem is is that they told us
that our children were to be number one. We take
care of ourselves. We take care of our children. If
we put our husbands out at the front door, it
didn't matter, but we would never do that to our kids.
And so she said, with all of the good that
was there, The problem is is we still have nut
on wound from that point where we put ourselves and
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our kids first and we put our husbands behind.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And the problem with that is is if you've ever
met a woman who is happily married, you got two here, y'all.
If you've ever met a woman who is genuinely happily married,
there is.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Not a better life.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, there really is not a better life. And this
is a part of that is being able to lift
your spouse up, lift your husband up, and to know
that it does not make you weak. If you say
my husband is the best thing since slash bread, it
builds him up, but it also builds you up as well.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's almost like you call the hero out of him.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
If he knows that you believe that he is your
hero and that you count on him as your hero
and that you need him.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Even though you know you could do it, Joe said, But.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You are saying to him, I need you, and you
let him be in a place of need and necessity
in your life. Then it's like they rise to the
occasion every single time.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, so the first probably the number one you think
thing you think that it helps to solidify happy marriage
is mutual respect, but even a step beyond that, yeah,
making sure that you are building into and sewing into
the life of your spouse.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Absolutely, and that's a part of that. Mutual respect is
in there. But also when I would ask the couples
what is the number one thing, it almost every single
time it was mutual respect. But then every now and
again there would be another one that would come up,
but they would be interchangeable. Okay, the second one was trust.
So every couple would either say mutual respect and then
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trust or they would say trust and then mutual respect.
And the reason why that plays a role is is
when you are building up your spouse. Going back to this,
because it's really important. When you're building up your spouse
and when you're creating this environment that allows for your
spouse to be able to share anything with you, then
you are creating this sanctuary in your home where they
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don't want to be anywhere else. That is where they
feel the safest. And for so many that are unhappy,
it's because they haven't created a safe place for their spouse.
And men need a safe place. If they don't have
it in you, they will find it in a cave somewhere,
So an emotional cave, and emotion that.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, But what if you.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Can't trust your spouse's What if?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
What if he has.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Done enough things that you're in a position where honestly
you don't trust. Or maybe it's the flip side that
maybe it hasn't been physical infidelity on your part or anything,
but it's maybe that you've talked so much to your
girlfriends or others about things that your husband thought were
private in your marriage, even though to you it's it's
not a big deal what you're talking about, you just
but to him, he feels violated. So now he doesn't trust.
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So if you're in a position of distrust right now
in your relationship, how do you even begin this path
toward trust? What you're saying is the number two most
most important thing that you need to even begin to
be happy.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, Well, it depends on how how deep that wound is.
So if it's something where your spouse has said something
to you and you made the mistake of repeating it
to someone else and it came back to them and
that broke that that trust between you, well that's something
you can work out by just being trustworthy from that
point on until they know, okay, so I can trust again,
and that could take time, that could take years. You
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made that bed, now you're going to lie in it,
and you're going to have to be consistent. Right if
the broke if the broken bond was through infidelity or
something of that nature, this book isn't going to help you. Counseling.
H ain't none wrong with counsel There is nothing wrong
with counsel.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
It's like if you have a.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Car, well, you take it in to get the oil
chaps there around. Then you don't have to wait until
it completely breaks down. There's a consistent place that you
take it to keep it functioning well. Absolutely so we
can do that with our marriages as well, without shame.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We absolutely can. The thing that was interesting about this
particular book, and I think what makes it very different
from most marriage books, is for most marriage books, they're
trying to help you to go from broken to whole.
And I looked at all of the books and I said,
but what about for those who have a good marriage
or an okay marriage and they just want to take
it from good to great?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Or what about those who are single?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Hello, they haven't met him yet, or they haven't met him,
they're soon to be married.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think this is so wise.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yes, I mean, don't you wish that there are a
whole lot of things people should have told us when
we were single, right, so that we could have been
prepared to be to live wisely when we were married.
You've been married, hell long, twelve years. You've been married
for twelve.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Years, and I want to tell I want you to.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Tell us because you began to talk about a few
moments ago about this issue of when there is a
hurdle to get over, a challenge to get over, not
pointing swords at each other, not going to our own quarters,
but coming together and then facing the challenge head on together. Absolutely,
there has been a huge challenge in your marriage that
the two of you have had to face head on.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Tell us about that, or we were talking about this
earlier twelve years in. We don't have children, and it's
not because we don't want them, and so it has
been a journey of discovering, Okay, why don't we have children,
and there actually is a physical problem. So for so
many people they go, oh, just stop thinking about it
and you'll get pregnant, Okay, well, that works for some.
For others, the doctors will be very clear that's not
going to work for you. We fall into that latter category.
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And so it's been the trials of that process. But
here's the thing, because I've met a lot of women
that have also gone through infertility challenges, and now I
want to say that we're maybe about to go through
our fifth cycle of this right And I would say
the biggest difference I see between those who were able
to remain happily married through it and those who are not,
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because the divorce rate is higher when infidelity is involved
infertility is involved. The thing that I see that is
the largest difference is that for my husband and me,
we did not look at this and say we need
children to be happy. We had always decided that we
would be happy with our family of two. So when
people say I want to go home and see my family,
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if I'm traveling, I'm going home to see my family.
Oh how many kids do you have? My husband, we're
happy with our family of two.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But how surely you had to get your heart to
that place bond Because as for a woman, there is
nothing that can be more emotionally crippling than this longing
inside of a woman that desires to have children and
is struggling through that. So surely this is not something
that you're able to just kind of roll out of
the bed and decide to be happy about, even though
I know it's a constant's choice. Yeah, but surely this
has been a difficult journey for you. How do you
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have to practically continue down the road to happiness despite
the fact that things haven't turned out, you know, the
way that you'd like them to up up to this point.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, I think my desire for God's will in my
life is greater than my desire for what other people
say is important for.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A woman, or even more important than your own than
my desires.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
So if he wanted us to have children, we've done
every step. Believe you me. We don't have any problems
in the bedroom. We've done every step there is. And
if the Lord wanted us to have kids, we'd have kids.
We do not have kids. That's his call and my
mom's God. I absolutely trust that my line's and we
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believe that if if we are to have children, it
just means that up until this point, it wasn't meant
to be. So I'll give you a for instance, we
went through the process of adopting. We still don't have
a child, so we went through the process of a
closed adoption. And for those who don't know, the way
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that this process works is you have a middleman, if
you will, that has a mom and for whatever reason,
whether it's the courts or anything else, that mother cannot
raise that child. And so we were looking to adopt.
And this particular mom, she already had three children, all
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three were being raised by her mother. She was young.
This was the fourth. She was pregnant, and so we
went through the entire process, and you pay for that
person to live for the entire nine months that they
are pregnant, but until the moment that that child is
in your hands and papers are signed, and then there
is a three day waiting period just in case she changes,
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just in case she changes her mind.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So they're on pins and needles for months and days.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And we have gone into the carpet store, rolled around
on the carpet. Oh, this will be perfect for the baby.
We have done the baby room. There is a crib
that is in there, there's a rocking chair that is
in there. The entire room is done. We do not
have a child, And it was interesting because for I
think so many that's a really that's a moment that
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couples can begin fighting, they can begin arguing, it can
become this really big deal. And we looked at each
other and we just kind of like the Martina mcbrideesaw
on God's Will Do you know that song? I love
that song? We just looked at each other and said,
it clearly isn't the time, and we moved on.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And so it's a choice.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
It is happiness is a choice. It is a moment
by moment decision that you make every single day, in
every situation, in every scenario. It is a decision that
you have to make.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
And I want you to hear clearly, she's not making
light of the tragedies that could happen in your life
or in your marriage, because there are many things that
really can wipe you out emotionally.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And yet no matter what the scenario.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Is, it's a choice.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You still have to choose how am I going to
react to what has happened to me?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
How am I going to respond? What kind of path
am I going.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
To walk down? And what is the lesson that there
is to be learned in it? Through every test, there
is a lesson. We don't just get tests for the
sake of being tested, So what is the lesson to
be learned? And for us we look at every single
test and go, okay, so this is a test. But
the thing is we haven't stopped trying.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, and so we're still walking down that path.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
We're still walking down that path. But in the interim
we're going to we're going to be happy. We're going
to enjoy being married, and we're going to enjoy our
time together.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, there's so much more, so much more that you
could learn and I could learn of course, about what it.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Means to be happy.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But in the meanwhile, you can join the Happy Wives Club.
You should, and you need to get your hands on
this book because it really is blessing a lot a
lot of people, and I know, really inspiring people towards
happiness and their relationships. So that we can be a
good commercial for marriage, you know commercial. Yeah, we need
to we need to be So you know, you did
mention something a minute ago that we're going to get
to in part two. You mentioned just the good things
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happening in the bedroom. I don't want to talk about
those specifically. But I do know, I do know that
somewhere on this list there has to be something having
to do with the physicality of relationships.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So we can't even begin.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
To walk down that road right now, yes, but we
will when we come back. This is just part one
of a conversation that we're going to continue having in
part two. But for now, would you please help me
to thank this.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Incredible woman for joining us today. Come on, y'all, let's
thank fond leaders.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You are why
Hey there, I'm Priscilla. Thank you so much for joining
me today.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm glad that you're here The Chat with Priscilla.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
That's where you've come. It's a place where.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We just have chats, you know, conversations about things that
I hope will be impactful to you, Informative, challenging sometimes
or just plain old, flat out fun.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So today I want you to have a lot of fun.
Full Up a chair, grab your.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Favorite hot beverage, cozy up, and let's talk today on
the Chat with Priscilla.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Stay tuned. Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I had a friend of mine who is single, say
to me recently, Priscilla, I do.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Not think I want to get married. And I said
to her, why why don't you want to get married?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And she said, because all of the married people around
me make marriage look miserable. Every time I'm talking to
them about what it is to be married, they're just
complaining or they're whining about something. They are the worst
advertisers for marriage. And have you ever had people talk
to you about marriage and it just sounds depressing?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So I'm listening to.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
My friend that I'm thinking, man, we got to find
a way to be better advertisers. For marriage, because we
need to be in marriages where we are happy and
content and fulfilled. So while I was thinking about this,
I came across this little book by a woman who
is writing about what it means to just be a
happy wife.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And I've been very intrigued by.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Everything that she's discovered as she has literally traveled around
the globe, as she's gone to different cultures, different races,
different backgrounds. She wanted to find as many happy wives
as she could and then try to figure out what
was the common thread that made these women content in
their role as wives. So listen, whether you are a
single woman or you are a married woman, you were
going to want to stay tuned as we interview an
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incredible a woman who really is changing the way marriage looks.
Would you please help me to welcome Fon Weaver to
the program today. Hi, fine, come.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
On in, have a tea, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Cozy yourself up in those pillows there, my friend. We
have a lot of talking to do because there are
a lot of women who are very, very unhappy in
their marriages, and I want to talk to you, first
of all about why you even went out on this
quest to find out what makes a happy marriage.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Why was that even important to you?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, A part of it was is because I knew
you and I weren't the only ones you were happily married,
and I had so many friends around me who actually
were happily married. And as you said, there's so many
that are bad advertisements, and then all the ones that
were happily married are not advertising at all, just completely silent.
So you really just had one side of the demographic
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that's telling the entire service, the vocal ones. They're the
vocal ones. So you have fifty three percent of marriages
that succeed, forty seven percent that fail, and all eyes
are on that forty seven percent, And I said, I
want to know what the top ten percent of that
fifty three percent is doing.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Okay, do you think that media? Do you think that
movies entertainment? Do you think that it is controversial and
good TV to sort of highlight the bad? And so
that's why we're also seeing more of that kind of
broadcast it out there for us to see.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think it's twofold. I think that number one. When
you meet folks in Hollywood, so many of them are miserable.
So what they're writing about is truly their lives. But
Hollywood isn't reality, so you have the people behind the
scenes that are really playing out their lives in front
of the camera. That's a part of it. The other
part of it is is happy doesn't sale?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, drama sells drama self.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
The miserable wife, the nagging wife, the annoying wife, and
the cheating husband. That sells. It sells magazines, it sells
television shows, it sells everything that there is to be sold.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So you decided you're going to figure out how to
highlight the top ten percent of the fifty three percent
of wives that are happy in their relationships.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And I'm just randomly choosing a ten percent number, So
it was just the top portion of that that are
genuinely happy. This doesn't mean the ones that sweep things
under the rug and pretend that everything is okay when
they're in the public. I mean the ones that behind
closed doors, every person in the community, every person in
their family would say they're the real deal. That couple
right there has been happily married twenty five years or more.
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They've got something to teach you.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Okay, how are you defining happy?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I'm defining happy the way anyone else would define happy.
Whatever makes you happy.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So just feeling whole content, satisfied with what you have.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I think there's a difference between satisfied and happy though, Okay,
come because I know plenty of people that are satisfied,
but you would not necessarily say that they are. They
would not describe themselves as happy. So, for instance, you
have so many that compare their marriages to other marriages,
and if they just focused on them their own marriage
and their own really relationship, they would be happy there
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but grass. But then when you compare what you have
to someone else's, you compare your real life to their highlights.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Because everybody's instagramming their highlights.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You do know that, right what we're seeing on Instagram
has eighteen different filters.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It was their day or their.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Way, absolutely, and so you're comparing it to the highlights.
So when you're talking about how do you define happiness?
I say this, when you look at yourself and you
ask yourself what makes me happy? And then figure out
do you have those things? And not meaning things like
things you buy?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, virtues absolutely, the attributes of life that make you happy.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, So you decide.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You were going to not just interview the people that
live in your neck of the woods. You decided to
go on a real, huge, vast journey. What did that
look like and how did you choose the places in
the world where you went.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well, I chose the places that I went based on
people that I knew around the world. So I reached
out to people. I was in the hotel industry before,
and so I knew so many people from around the world,
and I would reach out and say, this is what
I am trying to do. I am trying to find
that couple. I mean literally that couple that everyone will
point to and say, if we could all have a
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marriage like that couple, that's who we want.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And we're still holding hand.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
They're still holding hands, and they've been through everything. They've
been through, you know, infertility, miscarriages, they've been through finances high,
finances low, They've been through everything, and twenty five years
or late years later, they are still looking into each
other's eyes. They're laughing at each other's jokes. They're not
tearing each other's down. They won't hang out around anyone
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who tears their spouse down. I want to get to
those people, and so I reached out to everyone and said,
point me to those two couples, and I would get
on a plane and fly to wherever that country was.
There ago I went. I started in Canada, and I
went to South Africa, and then I went to Mauritius.
I went to the Philippines, to New Zealand, Australia, to gosh,
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where else did I go? I don't want to forget
any of these. London, Croatia, Rome, I was. I was
all over the place, and the thing that was fascinating
to me is I went to six different continents. Y'all. Antarctica.
There's no one there.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I tried, I really tried nobody.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I tried anybody. There is one thing.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's cold.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
It's cold.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I tried to do all seven continents, and finally I
reached back out to my publisher. I said, guys, that's
seventh continent. Not gonna happen. But on those six continents,
what made a wife happy and a husband happy was
the same, no matter the background, no matter the religion,
no matter where you were raised, how much you have
in the bank, the principles were the same. And there
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are twelve common denominators.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Okay, give us a few of those we're sitting on
the edge of our seat. One makes a happy spouse
in marriage.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, this is the interesting thing, the number one thing
when I would sit down with the wives or the couples,
for most of the time I sat down with couples,
if I asked the question, what is that one thing
if you told me write one thing in this book
and do not forget it, what is that one thing
that I cannot forget? To say, almost every single one,
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the very first thing that would come out of their
mouth mutual.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Respect, mutual respect.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Mutual It's got to go both ways.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Now, you know, that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's interesting to me because I would expect that maybe
the wife would think that her husband needs respect.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yes, yes, But.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Then I would think that his response yes might revolve
around something else.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right, you would think, let me tell you, so this
is this is This is the funny thing that when
you sit down with happily married women, there is a
there is a connecting dot between all of the women
that I sat down with. They were all strong, okay,
they all knew who they were, and they all, every
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single one of them, no matter where they were in life,
no matter how great their careers were, I interviewed one
woman who was one of the top plastic surgeons in
the world. She's married to a judge and to watch
them dote over each other was the best thing ever,
because when you are a strong woman, you realize doting
over your husband doesn't.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Make you weak.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
That's right, and that respect. Because you're giving it, they
want to give it back. And so for every wife
that I sat down with, it was almost almost instantaneous
what would come out of their mouth mutual respect.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Okay, So then that means the flip side of the
coin of that if happiness in a relationship and contentment
and fulfillment is found in mutual respect, that means the
flip side of the coin is that those who are
in an unhappy place in their life, one of the
reasons could be that they're not respecting that their spouse.
They don't have enough security in and of themselves that
they're able to build up and dote over and lift
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up that other individual because there's an insecurity in them
that causes are to be maybe competition.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Absolutely, and then you end up in a home with
competing spouses, which is completely unnecessary. You're to be on
the same team. So when you sit down with couples
that have been happily married for twenty five years or more.
The big difference between those that are happily married and
those that are unhappily married when they go through challenges
is those that are unhappily married when they're going through
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a challenge, they go in opposite directions of each other.
They start pointing swords at each other. The couples that
are happily married, they go through the exact same challenge,
but the difference is is they team up together and
they turn their source against the challenge.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, so they see themselves as a unit as opposed
to you, me, let's fight it our own unique ways.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, it was I was doing a talk for a
financial seminar, and this was a little while ago, right
after the book came out, and one of the financial
advisors said, you know, we get so many couples in
here that are on the brink of divorce and it
has to do with their finances and all of the
money problems that they're having. And so what would you
say is something that keeps couples together even when they're
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having financial challenges. And the story I told him is
the first time I came into Nashville. You've come into
Nashville when it's been raining outside, right, Okay, So I'm
coming into Nashville. This was my first experience. And we're
coming in and it says we're going to have slight turbulences.
So we're coming in and literally the plane just yeah
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and keeps going. I don't know how far we were dropping,
but the poor guy sitting in the center seat was sweating.
He had on headsets and he's just like, yeah, poor thing. Yeah,
and it keeps doing that. I turn around and look
at the flight attendant and she's like, la.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
La la la la. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And I mean, we start going through these turbulences, and
as we get closer, she starts coming through the aisle
to pick up trash. Everyone on that plane things they're
about to lose their life. The difference is is she
already knows the ending. She knows that ninety nine percent
of those planes that go through those kind of turbulences
are going to land, and they're going to land just fine.
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So she had been through it so many times it
wasn't a big deal. And so for so many couples,
the real big difference between is. We were both on
the same plane, this guy sweating who thought he was
going to lose his life, and this woman who's like,
anyone have trash, trash? Anyone can I pick up your trash?
Same exact situation. It's how you handle it that makes
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the difference.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
All right, Well, Vaughn Weaver's taking out the trash today
and all of our marriages.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yes, she is. We'll be right back in just a
couple of minutes. Stay tuned.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So, Hi, I'm Priscilla, and I wanted to take an
opportunity to invite you personally to join me for a
seven session Bible study on the Armor of God. We'll
dive deep into what it means to be equipped to
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stand firm against the schemes of the enemy. He is
very real, and he has been so strategic and targeted
in his attacks against us. Why shouldn't we be equally
strategic and targeted in standing firm against him?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And you and I have an opportunity to suit up,
to put on some armor that works, and to go
to battle and to see victory declared in our lives
and in the lives of those people that we love.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
This Bible study will.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Be one that will change our lives forever and will
help us to walk in victory. So plan to join me,
won't you the Armor of God?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Hey there, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
We've been having a very interesting conversation with von Weaver,
who's the author of incredible books, one of which is
called The Argument Free Marriage.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
We all need to get a hold of that one.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Don't we.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But also the Happy Wives Club, and that's really what
we're talking about today. There are one nearly one million
women that have literally joined the Happy Wives Club.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
You can too at the Happywivesclub dot.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Com and it enables you to just be connected with
other women who are choosing happiness in their marriages and
in their lives. And we are learning some of the
principles about what it means to be a happy wife
from this woman who traveled all around the globe literally
to talk about couples who were happy. I'm really intrigued
and want to just sit for just a few minutes
on this topic of a woman doting on building up
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the ego really of guy. I don't think that we
really realize the power and the strength and the benefit
that comes back to us when we really build that
guy up, that ego.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Is serious business.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's serious business, and it's so fragile. Yeah, it's so fragile.
And so when people ask me, you know, with the
issue of really connecting with your spouse and how do
you get your spouse to truly trust you this fragile ego,
it's a big deal deal and being able to lift
your spouse up, being able to and for women especially,
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And we were saying this during the break. I don't
really know when it happened. I'm thirty nine, I'll be
forty next year, and so what the first two waves
of the feminist movement kind of were before us. But
when I sat down with one of the women, I said,
what do you think it is? And she was there
for every wave of the feminist movement, and she said,
here's the problem with the feminist movement. With all of
the good that it did, and I believe that it
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did good, the problem is is that they told us
that our children were to be number one. We take
care of ourselves. We take care of our children. If
we put our husbands out at the front door, it
didn't matter, but we would never do that to our kids.
And so she said, with all of the good that
was there, The problem is is we still have nut
on wound from that point where we put ourselves and
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our kids first and we put our husbands behind.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And the problem with that is is if you've ever
met a woman who is happily married, you got two here, y'all.
If you've ever met a woman who is genuinely happily married,
there is.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Not a better life.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, there really is not a better life. And this
is a part of that is being able to lift
your spouse up, lift your husband up, and to know
that it does not make you weak. If you say
my husband is the best thing since slash bread, it
builds him up, but it also builds you up as well.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's almost like you call the hero out of him.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
If he knows that you believe that he is your
hero and that you count on him as your hero
and that you need him.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Even though you know you could do it, Joe said, But.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You are saying to him, I need you, and you
let him be in a place of need and necessity
in your life. Then it's like they rise to the
occasion every single time.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, so the first probably the number one you think
thing you think that it helps to solidify happy marriage
is mutual respect, but even a step beyond that, yeah,
making sure that you are building into and sewing into
the life of your spouse.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Absolutely, and that's a part of that. Mutual respect is
in there. But also when I would ask the couples
what is the number one thing, it almost every single
time it was mutual respect. But then every now and
again there would be another one that would come up,
but they would be interchangeable. Okay, the second one was trust.
So every couple would either say mutual respect and then
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trust or they would say trust and then mutual respect.
And the reason why that plays a role is is
when you are building up your spouse. Going back to this,
because it's really important. When you're building up your spouse
and when you're creating this environment that allows for your
spouse to be able to share anything with you, then
you are creating this sanctuary in your home where they
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don't want to be anywhere else. That is where they
feel the safest. And for so many that are unhappy,
it's because they haven't created a safe place for their spouse.
And men need a safe place. If they don't have
it in you, they will find it in a cave somewhere,
So an emotional cave, and emotion that.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, But what if you.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Can't trust your spouse's What if?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
What if he has.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Done enough things that you're in a position where honestly
you don't trust. Or maybe it's the flip side that
maybe it hasn't been physical infidelity on your part or anything,
but it's maybe that you've talked so much to your
girlfriends or others about things that your husband thought were
private in your marriage, even though to you it's it's
not a big deal what you're talking about, you just
but to him, he feels violated. So now he doesn't trust.
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So if you're in a position of distrust right now
in your relationship, how do you even begin this path
toward trust? What you're saying is the number two most
most important thing that you need to even begin to
be happy.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, Well, it depends on how how deep that wound is.
So if it's something where your spouse has said something
to you and you made the mistake of repeating it
to someone else and it came back to them and
that broke that that trust between you, well that's something
you can work out by just being trustworthy from that
point on until they know, okay, so I can trust again,
and that could take time, that could take years. You
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made that bed, now you're going to lie in it,
and you're going to have to be consistent. Right if
the broke if the broken bond was through infidelity or
something of that nature, this book isn't going to help you. Counseling.
H ain't none wrong with counsel There is nothing wrong
with counsel.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
It's like if you have a.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Car, well, you take it in to get the oil
chaps there around. Then you don't have to wait until
it completely breaks down. There's a consistent place that you
take it to keep it functioning well. Absolutely so we
can do that with our marriages as well, without shame.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We absolutely can. The thing that was interesting about this
particular book, and I think what makes it very different
from most marriage books, is for most marriage books, they're
trying to help you to go from broken to whole.
And I looked at all of the books and I said,
but what about for those who have a good marriage
or an okay marriage and they just want to take
it from good to great?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Or what about those who are single?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Hello, they haven't met him yet, or they haven't met him,
they're soon to be married.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think this is so wise.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yes, I mean, don't you wish that there are a
whole lot of things people should have told us when
we were single, right, so that we could have been
prepared to be to live wisely when we were married.
You've been married, hell long, twelve years. You've been married
for twelve.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Years, and I want to tell I want you to.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Tell us because you began to talk about a few
moments ago about this issue of when there is a
hurdle to get over, a challenge to get over, not
pointing swords at each other, not going to our own quarters,
but coming together and then facing the challenge head on together. Absolutely,
there has been a huge challenge in your marriage that
the two of you have had to face head on.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Tell us about that, or we were talking about this
earlier twelve years in. We don't have children, and it's
not because we don't want them, and so it has
been a journey of discovering, Okay, why don't we have children,
and there actually is a physical problem. So for so
many people they go, oh, just stop thinking about it
and you'll get pregnant, Okay, well, that works for some.
For others, the doctors will be very clear that's not
going to work for you. We fall into that latter category.
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And so it's been the trials of that process. But
here's the thing, because I've met a lot of women
that have also gone through infertility challenges, and now I
want to say that we're maybe about to go through
our fifth cycle of this right And I would say
the biggest difference I see between those who were able
to remain happily married through it and those who are not,
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because the divorce rate is higher when infidelity is involved
infertility is involved. The thing that I see that is
the largest difference is that for my husband and me,
we did not look at this and say we need
children to be happy. We had always decided that we
would be happy with our family of two. So when
people say I want to go home and see my family,
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if I'm traveling, I'm going home to see my family.
Oh how many kids do you have? My husband, we're
happy with our family of two.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But how surely you had to get your heart to
that place bond Because as for a woman, there is
nothing that can be more emotionally crippling than this longing
inside of a woman that desires to have children and
is struggling through that. So surely this is not something
that you're able to just kind of roll out of
the bed and decide to be happy about, even though
I know it's a constant's choice. Yeah, but surely this
has been a difficult journey for you. How do you
(22:19):
have to practically continue down the road to happiness despite
the fact that things haven't turned out, you know, the
way that you'd like them to up up to this point.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, I think my desire for God's will in my
life is greater than my desire for what other people
say is important for.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A woman, or even more important than your own than
my desires.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
So if he wanted us to have children, we've done
every step. Believe you me. We don't have any problems
in the bedroom. We've done every step there is. And
if the Lord wanted us to have kids, we'd have kids.
We do not have kids. That's his call and my
mom's God. I absolutely trust that my line's and we
(22:59):
believe that if if we are to have children, it
just means that up until this point, it wasn't meant
to be. So I'll give you a for instance, we
went through the process of adopting. We still don't have
a child, so we went through the process of a
closed adoption. And for those who don't know, the way
(23:19):
that this process works is you have a middleman, if
you will, that has a mom and for whatever reason,
whether it's the courts or anything else, that mother cannot
raise that child. And so we were looking to adopt.
And this particular mom, she already had three children, all
(23:39):
three were being raised by her mother. She was young.
This was the fourth. She was pregnant, and so we
went through the entire process, and you pay for that
person to live for the entire nine months that they
are pregnant, but until the moment that that child is
in your hands and papers are signed, and then there
is a three day waiting period just in case she changes,
(24:01):
just in case she changes her mind.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So they're on pins and needles for months and days.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And we have gone into the carpet store, rolled around
on the carpet. Oh, this will be perfect for the baby.
We have done the baby room. There is a crib
that is in there, there's a rocking chair that is
in there. The entire room is done. We do not
have a child, And it was interesting because for I
think so many that's a really that's a moment that
(24:29):
couples can begin fighting, they can begin arguing, it can
become this really big deal. And we looked at each
other and we just kind of like the Martina mcbrideesaw
on God's Will Do you know that song? I love
that song? We just looked at each other and said,
it clearly isn't the time, and we moved on.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And so it's a choice.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
It is happiness is a choice. It is a moment
by moment decision that you make every single day, in
every situation, in every scenario. It is a decision that
you have to make.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
And I want you to hear clearly, she's not making
light of the tragedies that could happen in your life
or in your marriage, because there are many things that
really can wipe you out emotionally.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
And yet no matter what the scenario.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Is, it's a choice.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You still have to choose how am I going to
react to what has happened to me?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
How am I going to respond? What kind of path
am I going.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
To walk down? And what is the lesson that there
is to be learned in it? Through every test, there
is a lesson. We don't just get tests for the
sake of being tested, So what is the lesson to
be learned? And for us we look at every single
test and go, okay, so this is a test. But
the thing is we haven't stopped trying.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, and so we're still walking down that path.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
We're still walking down that path. But in the interim
we're going to we're going to be happy. We're going
to enjoy being married, and we're going to enjoy our
time together.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, there's so much more, so much more that you
could learn and I could learn of course, about what it.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Means to be happy.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But in the meanwhile, you can join the Happy Wives Club.
You should, and you need to get your hands on
this book because it really is blessing a lot a
lot of people, and I know, really inspiring people towards
happiness and their relationships. So that we can be a
good commercial for marriage, you know commercial. Yeah, we need
to we need to be So you know, you did
mention something a minute ago that we're going to get
to in part two. You mentioned just the good things
(26:18):
happening in the bedroom. I don't want to talk about
those specifically. But I do know, I do know that
somewhere on this list there has to be something having
to do with the physicality of relationships.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So we can't even begin.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
To walk down that road right now, yes, but we
will when we come back. This is just part one
of a conversation that we're going to continue having in
part two. But for now, would you please help me
to thank this.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Incredible woman for joining us today. Come on, y'all, let's
thank fond leaders.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You are why
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