LTV Day 695: When Will Ukraine Start Playing for Itself? - Latynina.tv - Alexey Arestovych - Privateer Station: War In Ukraine

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Good day, ladies and gentlemen.This is utility and the lex Aristo which
alexey good morning, Hello, Hello. Please do not forget to subscribe to
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not forget, please to click thelike. That definitely helps us to bring
more eyeballs to these discussions. Wehave been thinking about doing a stream about
why the Sovietism or savok as wecall it back in NEWSSR had prevailed over
in the West. So let's deepdive into this. I'll start back with

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historic precipice from eighteen sixty two whenEmperor Negus I'm not sure if his Negus
or Negus, he was the emperorof Ambyssinia and his name was Tillo Dross.
He captured a group of Brits hostages, and that happened several hundred miles

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away from the shore in the mountainsof Abyssinia, where it was rather difficult
to get to. So he wasmaking a statement that I have your hostages,
so please follow my demands. Thebridge thought for a bit and then
instead of following the demands of theemperor, sent the troops with General Napier,
and the troops were partially from India, partially from England itself. And

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the troops went for several hundred miles, also building a railroad because they were
breaking guns and guns did not rideor drive on the roads that barely non
existent. They got to the residenceof an emperor whooped his butt and liberated
the hostages. Emperor Nigus committed suicide. And my favorite Neil Ferguson brings this

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case as the example of the westernstriumph. We can bring other cases,
but you know, fast forward hereto nineteen ninety one when Saddam Hussein invaded
Kuwait and instead of tolerating that,Americans declared war on Iraq, kicked them
out, didn't answer Iraq, butkicked his bet out of Kuwait and showed

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that international aggressor can do whatever hewants in his own country, poison and
kill Kurds, kill a position.But if that aggressor would go into a
foreign country and try to violate waterssecurity, he will get what he deserves.
So I have a question what happenedsince those days, Since eighteen sixties

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since nineteen ninety one, where didthe West go? Well, Julia,
this question can be answered three ways, like any question, by its core,
by the rules of life, andin the entertaining way. So if
we're talking about the ways of life, then since ninety one, the West

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decided that they're victorious, that itwas the end of history, and that
they won over everybody that gave themseveral wrong ideas, that first of all,
there will be no clashes with otherregimes. Later, that our system
of the West is the best andit will suppress any other system or union,
and that combination of the soft andhard power of the West will be

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not feasible to be resisted or opposedby any other regime or country. And
basically, yeah, that genes andchewing gum will always prevail. And many
of them believe that despite the authorsof long telegrams who are warning them that
other systems are just a temporary setbackfor them, that they're not going anywhere,

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that they will still continue opposing theWest. And the second aspect is
that since they announced the end ofhistory, their anthropotype started to change as
well. And history is like teacher. It calls upon certain people, either
a certain type of people, orit is making a demand for a certain

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type of people to prevail, toemerge. And then if we talk about
the core of this, then thewish to escape history and to announce its
and is one of the not expressed, not openly expressed sacred wishes of modern

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or modernity, as it is alsocalled the idea to try to escape history,
to stop time. This is oneof the cherished impulses there, and
it was one of the main tasksof that modernity. And finally they seemed
to have achieved it, and theywere happy and RESTful about it. And

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the viewers may not know, butI sent you a table from the economists
about the graduates of high schools inAmerica. Ten year olds nineteen year olds
who abstain from sex do not godating. They just don't feel like don't
want to, and they don't wantto go and fight for that. They
don't want to exert any effort.It's much easier for them to turn on

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the porn on their media streaming devicesand avoid all the complications of too personal
relations. So I keep asking Americanshere, how are you going to fight
with such an anthropotype because you don'thave people who know and who like to
go and fight, and there arevery very few of those who would even

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be good capable for the close quartersfight. They exist, but there are
not many of them. They're thehard guns. They are like counditeers,
and they caused a lot in thetwenty first century. There are always not
too many of them. It's ascarce resource. And they are soldiers right

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though they're fighting only as long asthey're paid. They don't have the sacred
ideology with those whom they fight for. And American and British Army they both
note the lowest level of recruits availablefor them this year, out of which

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a big part also have different physicaland mental disabilities that are not capable to
serve two new vessels to new Navyships that were built by British Navy.
In order to put new crews onthose ships, they had to take two
crews from two old older vessels.So if somebody would wake Radyard Kipling from

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his grave and show him that Britishfleet has a deficiency of semen and that
is the soul of Britain, guesswhat he will be thinking about the modern
West and the problem of West isthe change of anthropotype. In my view,
the West will start to represent somethingfeasible again, the West that we

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knew, that we hoped for,that we believed in, if they change
their anthropotype, and in order tochange that, to get that element changed,
they need to change the sacred levelof ideology and of their society.
Basically answer the questions what do theylive for and what can they die for?
Those birds who were building the railroadand going for that emperor, they

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knew what they were going for.They knew why they suffered the adversities in
malaria and other things. And I'lltell you more. It sounds somewhat like
a conspiracy theory, but I'm suspectingit might be the real truth. That
thing when Ukraine is now giving datato NATO about their fighting troops is that

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I think NATO is looking for newnames and new resources to hire and to
use later whenever they need to,so that basically, when the war in
Ukraine is over, they can tapinto that resource and get these people to
fight for the interests of NATO wheneverthat's wherever that's needed. So they're getting
the database for the possible resource ofhired guns and those people who believe that.

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Yeah, in Ukrainian government bleetings aboutoh that'll allow us to remove ear
defense systems from the data centers.This is yeah, this is about nothing.
Yeah, exactly like I said,I was surprising only yesterday talked about
the data centers a one of interviews. I didn't even understand what you're talking
about. Well, right, Soto give a better picture, every conscript,

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every mobilized person in Ukraine has acertain element in our database, have
their profile there with more information,and here in Ukraine's were all digitized and
all trying to be They decided thatit's much cheaper and easier to store this
data on the servers in NATO becausehere we apparently it costs more to store

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data as they pretended it does.We have squabbled our military resources, our
missiles, our jets, our otherresources, and now I guess we're just
squabbling and giving away our data onour military servicemen. And nobody is being
surprised after all that recent history thatthe data about our fighters is being given

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to NATO countries. As somebody whowas studying intel, I want to say
that for that information, it's notjust one award that needs to be given
or will be given in the West, it will be probably the whole department
reward for that action. And evenin the partnership. In partnerships in friendly
countries, there are no friendly intelservices. And for me, it's obvious

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NATO will have additional resource to tapinto whenever wherever they need to fight in
Africa, in South America and Europebecause same Brits they have issues with their
infantry. We see that they haveissues with their navy, but they have
a capability to fight cognitive wars andinduce their partners or those to do certain

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things that they like. So theystill have the mastery to do some things.
They unfortunately cannot force their own peopleto fight because when modern West offers
some sacred totems trying to unite peoplearound them, and I know real well
what it feels like and how itis to get people out of the trench

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under the bullet fire. I wantto say that even your own family is
not always an argument. There aresome degrees of tiredness and fear that neither
your wife nor your children are motivatorsenough, and you need something really large
scale, something really extremely large thatwill rise you again. But keep doing

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that time and time again, likeRussian infantry is doing for the last two
years, and go fight on apistol shot distances from twenty yards five yards.
That takes quite an effort. Andwhen people are saying that it's only
the additional troops that are behind youshooting at you. If you don't go,
that's just evaluating the value of yourfoes. That's not enough to get

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people up. So what do wehave to tell our soldiers right to fight
those Russians, those Russian paratroopers orWagner's or somebody else. How do you
raise their troops to go fight them? Right as people keep deprecating them in
the social media saying, oh,they're pigs, big dogs, and they're
funny, they're not serious. Sohow do you get people up for let's

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go fight for lusive capitalism, forequity and Klaus Schwab right ALEXI, against
global warming and for gender equality.Well, here's the thing that's that's the
fight that for the global warming,you don't need to go into the trench.
You're just for everything good against everythingbad, and you don't need to

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be in a trench. This year, by the way, in a record
size budget of Pentagon. It's therecord budget for the whole history of Pentagon.
It's eight hundred plus billion dollars,and over one hundred and eighteen million
dollars of that money are reserved forDII commissars. Do you know what DEI
is? Oh? Yeah, Ido. I don't know if our listeners

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do or do not. Let's explaina bit. Yeah. It stands for
diversity, equity and inclusion, equityALEXI. Right, it's not equality,
it's equity, right, that's Ijust want to make a point here.
The difference between all that diversity andplay diverse of things. Inclusion implies including

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things, but equity and equality.How do I translate that? In Russian?
Equality is when you're equal in frontof law. It's an equality of
opportunity, and equity is about equityof results, equality of the same results
to be achieved by different people.When somebody needs a boost and somebody needs

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an extra hurdle, so they getto the same result. And that's what
it is about. Right. Sonow we have these commissaris actively working in
all detachments of the United States,actively monitoring that they would not be any
fluctuations from the party line, anda lot of traditional white conscripts just don't

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go there, and a lot ofpeople have ideological resistance now to going there
because that goes against their views andbeliefs. And there are a lot of
others who wouldn't even go there becausethey like their a lot is better.
And as I'm driving to the airporthere, I saw the one of the
billboards along the road diversity is strength, right. So if you would be

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rising a voice against that, deicommissars will throw you out of the military.
And it's very much alike Trotzkaism.Read some history books, that's what
trout Schism was, and according tomy research, that's what I was trying
to understand here too, that trotSchism had prevailed in the seventies. Soviet

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Union lost the Cold War to twrotSchism, and the United States also lost
that fight. Just the speed ofdefeat were different. Soviet Union fell first
and at the end of the eighties, and the United States it is falling
now. But they both lost toTrotzkyism, and as always, intel officers
were the first ones to defect tothe right side and drop off was the

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biggest theoretician of the theory of convergencewith which he was running around since the
sixties, and in nineteen seventy fiveit was crowned with the Helsenkia Cords that
established that in violability of European frontiersbasically rejection the use of force to intervene
into intern affairs of each other.Western intel services and theoreticians also ran to

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these accords, collapped and cheered tonot go too deep into details of Twardzkyism
and the caveats and details of whatit implies. The core and the main
goal of Twardzkism is destruction of family, private property, and any kind of
identity. And these commissaris for onehundred and twenty millions will be working now

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in the American Army, and themoney designations for them keep growing. If
you think that army will be giddilytaking over Iranians or fighting for their territory
and their Shia values, fighting ChineseIsis or Russians who are fighting for their
sacred ideas, you are seriously mistaken. I think the Axis of Evil will

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kick their butt in a couple ofminutes. The paradox of the modern war,
and perhaps that's the only why itcould have even been tolerated for a
while by the West, or consideredby the West. Why the West is
still standing that they have a lotof technological advantages because if eleven thousand tomahawks
will fly into their enemy, yeahit'll be a big hit, but you

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will not be chasing a single infantrymanwith a tomahawk. And the power of
Russia, for example, is thatthey can supply half a million troops to
the front. Remember the advertising ofthe Imperial Bank back in the nineties,
Your majesty, there is a playin Paris that offends the memory of your
grandmother, Empress Catherine. The second. The Emperor is sending a message to

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the Emperor of France that he isabout to send a million of viewers in
gray uniform that will whistle down anyplay that we do not like. So
the day after the letter arrived toParis, the play was canceled. And
we're in about the same situation.There'll be a million viewers in gray uniforms,
which you cannot hunt down individually withtomahawk. You just don't have enough

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drones and tomahawks for all that.And they may be poorly dressed, ill
equipped, but they will close.They'll be able to close that question.
And if you take that, Iran, for example, still has almost a
full cycle of military production still followingthe deaths of the doctrine of Suli money
disease. Now they're still waging aboutfour wars for proxy wars and what Russian

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wars. Russian generalists had learned inthis war. They also stopped being afraid
of Animist technology advantage. They're notafraid of that anymore. So if there
was an overwhelming might of the West, of course there would be no war.
Well, Rash already started war.It is not afraid to show their
true intentions, and the West justfailed to even show to that war.

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They're barely holding their pants. They'retrying to restart their military production. They
seriously tried after the first Drumstein,since the summer of twenty two, but
they're failing because all of a suddenthey discovered that in order to restart military
production, you need to restart economicsystem and you need to change the values,
and that goes deeper. They're notready to go there. It is
so uncomfortable to lose the end oftimes where everything was fantastic, were the

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main circle of the interests implied goingto the restaurant, eating an interesting dish
from an interesting chef, and maybetraveling a bit around the main topic that
is discussed actively by New Yorkers thatyou meet out in the street. I'm
not meaning people from think Thanks.I'm just meaning the ones you meet out
in the streets. And the worstneeds to change anthropotype and reboot itself and

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invent people who will be or createpeople who will be eager to fight with
their enemies. And instead of that, they went to the depths of moralizing
in politics. And why do notlike it in politics? Because when you
announce an excess of evil existence,you don't have to go and fight that
taxis of evil, right, Butinstead they have to trade with that axis

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of evil. They sell parts fortheir weapons. And that follows exactly in
the footsteps of Vladimir Lenin who saidthat capitalists will sell the rope for three
hundred percent. They will not stifleus we sanctions. They actually will sell
us for the profits everything that willuse to hang them out with. So
there is seventy plus American elements inRussian kanjeal missile one hundred plus and the

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other type of missile. So whenthe Ukrainians are saying that the West will
wake up once. We need tostand and fight till the West awakens and
will show everybody. They just donot understand what the modern West is.
My dear compatriots still think the Westis like the West of the times of
Reagan, of Margaret Thatcher, ofRoosevelt and Churchill. That West doesn't exist

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anymore. Even if you will belooking for it with a very strong flashlight,
you will never find one like that. And if, for example,
it wakes one day and America hasa chance to awaken after going through a
serious crisis, maybe something not ahot col civil war, but a definite
internal conflict, it has a chanceof awakening as a strong country. But

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who promised you, dear Ukrainians,that that West will be or that America
will awaken in the interests of Ukraine. I cannot say that about Europe,
Alexei Ifingham, let me ask youa question. Every time I hear that
the West will awaken, I rememberthe West of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries,
which did not only awaken, butdid for different wars. And I

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want to say that European progress wasdone due to melitary competition. China did
not have any military competition. Theyhave won over all their neighbors, and
they started to rot from within.And Europe was fighting since medieval and that
eternal war, eternal competition, broughtupon the gunpowder, guns and all the
technology because the war, indeed,Julia is the best way to refresh the

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nentropotite. Everybody is cursing that forMachiavelli here, But Machiavelli was an honest
man who tried to invent a veryinteresting thing. He tried to make sure
that the winning elites, like inChina or like the ones on the West,
would not fall asleep. He triedto create a system of continuous motivation

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because the power, the true power, is defined by the readiness to fight
for that power and to kill anddie for that power. Because the worst
what did they try to do.They tried to institutionalize, to try to
form that passion into some legal framework, and the drive and the steam were

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leaving them. So he was tryingto invent a system that would prevent from
stagnation. So do you know hismain idea as far as I remember,
Alex say, since he was inFlorence, where there were a lot of
hired guns. There were rich peoplewho did not want to fight. They
were hiring basically mercenaries to fight forthem. Those people would essentially capture the

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republic at the end, the onesthat they were hired by to fight for.
When Cavella really wanted to restore theold Roman army of citizens, but
he failed, wellduly, he broughta very interesting and important idea. The
elites will remain in shape, willimplement the prohibition to finish off your opponent.
When your opponent is not finished andkilled, that means that you can

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never win completely, and that meansthe war in elites will always be It
will be permanent, and they willalways be in some more or less good
shape. And the only elites thatactually read this work attentively were British elites.
Those actually stopped killing their foes.And to start with, they didn't

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finish off the Catholics, right TolkienLewis, they were installing successfully Catholic mind
thinking in the minds of Britain apopulation, despite of the prohibition. Because
if you want to win, youneed to be facing some foes, right,
You need some enemies to fight within any sport, In any philosophic

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fight, you need opponents, andthe Brids are the last adults in the
West who still know how to playthese games. Moreover, many people do
not understand what the brids are.They'll never say that out loud, but
they hate how should they call it, delicately? They hate practical agreers or

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practical cowards I would call. Britsare always looking for a good sporting partner,
and they do respect those who resistinside and outside. They can kill
you, but they will be respectingyou if you're a real enemy. Everywhere
except Britain this is lost. Doyou know how their future leads are still

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brought up educated. It's almost likea concentration camp. There are punishments and
the way they get treated it's prettyharsh, but at least they grow in
a good shape. And it's veryharsh, and it's built on continuous competition.
The main British super technology is essay. What is an essay? You

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need to state and defend your ownpoint of view? It has a shadow
side. We can talk about that, but right now, since we're talking
about advantages, they bring up avery tight and very stern fighters. So
a seven year old kid needs tocontinue setting his position and defending it in

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front of the teacher, director,his peers, and the whole system that
suppresses him. That's still how theybring up their laits. That's what Michiavelli
was trying to build. He talkeda lot about the system of upbringing in
his works, and the main messagewas do not finish off your opponents.
Why is it always a flaw?Because if you're such a Genghist fan who

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destroyed all the enemies around him,you basically set up your children or grandchildren
for utter defeat. I want toadd here, and I think it's an
important addition. I think all knighthoodand feodal culture was built on that.
The enemy was not finished off,the enemy was honored, and after the

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lost battle, the foe was stillbeing received in the castle that he was
fighting with, and the war turnedinto a cruel sport. People of course
died, and still those who werewaging war, the knights and the generals.
It didn't propagate to down to thepeasants and to the usual soldiers.

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Yeah, they died and droves,but the elites they still tried to preserve
each other whenever the other side failed, and it was indeed a bloody sport.
And I can give a stunning examplethat up until twelfth century in night

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tournaments they were using battle arms,they were using swords, and they're using
battle javelins. So yeah, thisis the second part of the story.
The second part is that whoever isfighting without risking their own lives, so

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their own property, they usually devolveright. And the modern West they tried
to stay in power without risking anythingfor it, because what's the medieval elite
They were wasting and they were riskingtheir lives, and Machavilly was trying to
preserve the evolution. The wars arealways risk to life something wrong, you

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do something wrong, you say,there'll be a duel and there'll be a
risk of death, and you needto be ready to fight for your views.
And one can say that the qualityof those elits was a bit higher
than the quality of today's slits.The modern proposition of today's elits sounds like
this, you go die in adirty trench for us, and will be

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your lords and rulers on your bones. And I think if we can even
rephrase that, we do want tofight, but let's fight against global warming,
for gender equality, let's pick thenice and warm ways to fight.
That will be similar CRuMs for thereal fight. Here that trotzky'st sacred vector

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is a permanent revolution. Unless you'refighting with something in perpetuity, you're not
fighting. They think that this isthe fight when you put Greater Thunberg on
a pulpit and continue your undercoped squabbles. This is their modern risks, this
is how they fight. But oneshould note when what's his name, Claude

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Levi Strauss who was caught the structuralists, right, the head of a structuralist,
the leader of the research for structuralismand structural anthropology. Do you remember
why he was attacked? Yeah,he was one of the prominent theoreticians in

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Europe. He made an offer thatwas not acceptable for European findance years and
financial circles and was immediately caught withthe cleaning lady. That was the level
of their tolerance and that level oftheir fight. So on one hand,
they're talking about access of evil andthey're uniting Korean peasant and Iranian soldier and

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some who seat who's high on drugsor Pudjeon's trooper who's growing through the mud
on the enemy. When they actuallyclash with them, they apparently realize that
they're not ready to fight with them. The other side, oh, okay,
access of egle war, let's gofight, Let's go duke it out.
And then the West says, well, you kind of misunderstood us.

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We will fight with your access ofevil with sanctions, but sanctions will be
very peculiar. If the profit isone hundred and fifty percent, then we're
still fighting. But if the profitis higher than that, of course we'll
sell it. And that's why allthese representatives of the a Weigle, they

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know real well what they're doing.They know that they will prevail in this
war if the West does not changethe Anthropotite. But I'm thinking the West
doesn't have is running out of timehere. They will not have enough time
to replace the Entropotite. Perhaps thedefeat will teach them that they need to
do that. I'm very skeptical aboutEurop altogether. But the United States still
have a chance. And by lookingat what's happening here, do you know

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what's the possible exit out of theircivil conflict? They'll probably shut down into
their own isolationism and they will probablyjust don't care about the rest of the
world and start their expansion to theMoon, to the Mars or somewhere else.
They'll go that third way. Andthe main question here in America is

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an attempt. One of the mainquestions they're trying to explain, why do
they need external politics. They're veryself reliant. They don't need all these
external politics. And they have nowaccess to space and they have a lot
of expansion to do there, andthen the rest will have to fight and
squabble here on Earth. And theone who is ready to fight for his

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mad ideas, who's ready to diefor that, are the ones who will
ultimately prevail. And it's a riskfor us because that's what we're facing now
on our front. That's what Israelis having to face over there in the
South, and Hezbalah hasn't even startedyet, right. I just wanted to
say that Israel is an exclusion fromthis rule. I keep kept being asked

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whider like Israel. Israel is anexception because their elites are in good shape.
They're still fighting exactly. Their elitesare definitely fighting. Just in this
war and the operation in Gaza.The second in command of the Israeli central
command died, well known actors likeIdonomidi who played a role in Fauda.

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They had some world champion sportsmen whogot killed during this operation. And in
Ukraine, our elites are not rushingto the fight. See that we have
some champions and some well known peoplewho are fighting, but the top of
the top, the elites here inUkraine, they're not running to the front.
They have to invent the similar crumand feed it to the citizens who

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believe less and less in them.In Russia during the First Church and War,
how many sons of generals died duringthe First Church and War? I
think it was twenty six a lotbig numbers. They were young officers,
sons of generals who went to fightand many of them died there. So
the kids of military elites were dyingback then. Here we have big questions.

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How many of them are actually fightingin modern Russia, that's a big
question. But at least in thereon their side they have generals dying.
So before that stream, I askeda question of my compatriots for the evening
to think it through, and Iformulated it like this. Ukrainians sincerely believe
that when we join EU and NATO. We will dignity that we're going too

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for a long time by removing allthe uses of our monuments, by restricting
certain things and changing our society.But I want to say and suggest a
different option. If we had areal dignity, we would be begged to
join NATO right now. That's numberone and the second precipice if NATO indeed

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was a military union, because militaryunion, any serious military union, is
absolutely critically interested in the modern armythat has a good experience of fighting wars
and is successfully holding such a hugefoe as Russian Federation. This is a
critically important resource. If there werea military ally, they would begging for
us to join. But they're nota military alliance and they're not taking us

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in for that. Why they arenot we talked about it. They do
not want to fight, they arenot ready to fight. They cannot fight.
And if Trump removes the United Statesfrom NATO that he promised to do,
we'll see that NATO will rule onthe one, two three. And
we saw the repetition of that whenwe said we've had COVID, what is
the price of your EU and NATO? When everybody ran in your national quarters,

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and everybody were fighting for themselves andstarted to save themselves separately. This
is your native unity, this isyour EU unity, where they would have
some mechanism to react to critical situationslike that. That was they were created
for it, right to react tocritical issues. But it didn't fly and
there were no serious tests. Onecan say until these the moment when it's

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just money and you can milk thecenter for extra resources, that's one thing.
But the moment there is real threat, that's a whole other game.
And this is your modern West.This is what it is like. And
what can I say here to mydear compatriots. Guys, The problem of
Ukraine and all of our history isthat our main political idea externally was often

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betting on the losing side. Wehave such a special feature. We keep
betting on the losers and the samething we did again. But that's not
even the main thing. The mainthing is that we are the losers ourselves.
We are exporting our own data andpeople who are taking that data about

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our servicemen. At best, they'llprobably treat us like brids treated huns back
in the times of revolution in America. Right, we'll tolerate you as long
as you help us to weaken theopponent. After that, those of you
who will survive perhaps will be ofservice in other places, like in Africa.
And we still fail to understand that. I hope that we will understand

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that and we discover our own strengthand dignity, But we still failing because
we are earning all that capital thefront, one heroism after another. Recently
there was another story about the Ukrainiansoldier who was holding his position alone for
forty six days. And that warmakes a very interesting thing with Russia and

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Ukraine both. It is changing ouranthropotypes. It is making that instead of
merchandisers and managers and the rest,we get heroes, creators, poets,
and engineers. Well, Ale say, there are heroes of Russian operation who

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come back to Russia after that,and when they're demobilized and they kill a
granny because they were killing grannies beforethat. Well they're all different, right,
But there's definitely a psychotype being creatednow who cannot live like they lived
before. And there are people,millions of them getting social experience in social
bank that they will be thinking whatto do with them. And I am

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not envying need our Ukrainian analyts northe Western ealyds who will have to face
these millions of people in one wayor another. I'm not meaning the scarecrow
of United Armies of Russia and Ukraine. No, not that, not important
in which shape. But these peoplewill come and ask, even if they'll
not be direct uprising amidne or something. They'll be asking just by the fact

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of their existence. That's how theyare training to live, to stand for
what they believe in. And nowthe main problem of the West is to
scratch their heads and how to organizethem, how to use them, because
otherwise they don't know what to dowith them. Perhaps part of them will
be used as hired guns, rightas mercenaries. And before we go to

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more detailed questions about Russia and Ukraine, I want to ask one more philosophic
question. It looks like this,during many thousands of years history of civilizations
can be described as they would bea big, strong, and lazy civilization
because they were big and strong andrich around them, they were barbarians and

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they would generally look at this bigempire and say, well, look at
them. They have a lot ofresources, and we are smart and strong
people who basically don't even have thebasic necessities. And I'm quoting now the
nephew of the person who defeated Rome. So they initially approached the empire to

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offer their services, and then atthe end they always finished them off and
raped and pillaged. So I thinkthe story is about to repeat itself again.
We can move Russia and Ukraine toa side. I think Putin is
more like he's noticing what's happening withthe world and he's trying to use this
opportunity. He doesn't want to standby doing nothing. But I'm looking at

(38:54):
the big waves of migrants coming tothe West, coming to Europe, who
are coming there not because they wantedto destroy it, but because they wanted
to live there. And these hugecrowds of migrants come, they get their
subsidies in the light of we're foreverything good against everything bad. And I
have two questions. One of themis it seems like we are observing the

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death of a Roman empire version twozero. And the second is if the
West really awokened, they would havestarted not from Russia and Ukraine, but
they would probably first recognize that thedanger of militant Islam is more difficult,
is more dangerous actually, and that'ssomething to concentrate on that because you don't

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need hymers to do that, youcan just concentrate internally. Yeah, Yuliah,
the destiny of EU is probably newCaliphate because if you look at the
demographics, oh indeed, the demographics, right, I forgot to finish at
that in the pot. Demography isthe king of everything. And oh yeah,
then it's straightforward. If you don'thave sacred idea what to live for,

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you will not procreate. And theones who know what they live for
are the ones who will be procreating. And kids are the investment in the
future and the best answer why,the best answer to the main thing that
you hold dear. So when youhave a lot of kids, you'll be
developing your medicine, developing your values, developing your economy. And when you
have no kids, you have nothingto live for. And you know that

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flag over you a lot of starson the blue flag. There had to
be the head of Mary on thatflag, but then they refuse to have
her there and they just left theempty circle instead of Mother Mary. And
Europe doesn't exist without Christianity. Thatis one can argue their genetic code of

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Europe when in their top organization,the European Union, they refused from Christianity,
Christian ideas, removed Mother Mary fromflag, question the necessity for Christmas.
Then it's obvious who will prevail.And I want to say here that
Habermas once was asked the author ofConstitution, for they did ask him why

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there is no word future in theConstitution. And when he was asked why,
he answered, oh, well,I forgot to write it in and
I would remind that the Christian symbolof faith and with the word, with
the words and the lives of thefuture times. So most likely Europe will

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turn into Caliphate if they don't wakeup in the next couple generations. And
from the West it's only the UnitedStates and Brits who still have some opportunity
to really start to reload themselves.Europe very skeptical. I give them maybe
one and a half percent, maybeeven less than that. So what do

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they want to say here about thefall of Roman Empire? Put In is
being destroyed by his uber rationality.That's the rationality of KGB officer. They
were taught to be extremely rational,and yesterday there was that fake video that

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Iranian students and the Dutch editor createda skit about cursing Schwab from the Tribune
and Davos, and people in commentsstarted posting a lot of things underneath that,
and they brought another video with Putinapologizing for Schwab, saying that we
do like you, that we workwith you. And what is schwab.

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Schwab is Trotskyism in bronze dwindling offthe population population control, basically separating people
into different groups that basically in hisidea a deal world, they would be
people of Davos who are using allthe advantages of the developed capitalism, including

(42:58):
the extended life, and around themis ninth District. Remember the sci fi
right, so very divided two layersociety that was foretold by the classics of
the Western literature a long time ago. You can also read Clive Lewis and
the other creature creatures that he wasdescribing one doctor has from the Dead season

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from the Soviet or a hyperboloid ofGaren engineer. When his idea was the
island of a thousand selected and everybodyelse just works for that. They're just
workers. And this is a longidea that existed for many, many years,
a couple thousand years at least sincefifteenth and sixteenth It was very self

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determined, defined idea. So Putinand his old Russian elites do not fully
understand what the stakes are when heis printing these laws and making these statements.
Their hand is drawn by history.But he the man who was spat
on by the West so many times. He was one of the most pro

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Western politicians in Russia, and hewas kicked out so many times, and
he understood already. But he stilldoes not believe it that he, with
all his billions and j sevans,and all his nukes and all his everything
else and ideas, he'll never beequal to them. He will always be
in the eyes of those Schwabs asthe Huron, basically in the times of

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revolutionary war. Can I object here, Alexy? I think the story with
Putin is cardinally different, and itis indeed, he wanted to be part
of the West when he thought theWest is strong. When in ninety one
he saw the Desert Storm operation,he wanted to be part of the West.

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But that was progressing, and wesaw the progression of the West decline.
The more migrants and the increase inthe fight with global warming, the
less and less compromise in the fightwith global warming. Despite all the laughs
about them being fixated on gender,bathrooms and other weird aspects of whatever fight

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they're fighting for, Putin understood,I think at the beginning of his career
that at the beginning of his career, the West could squash him, just
like Saddam. But in twenty secondhe figured rightfully. So he figured that
he can walk the way he wants, because if these guys wanted to stop
anyone, they would have stopped along time ago. Hasbala and their moms

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and many others. Yeah, no, you know, they could have started,
but they brought two aircraft carriers afterone hundred strikes on their bases,
and they cannot deal with pro Iraniandetachments. And they did say, though,
yeah, if Hasbal attacks, willdo something scary. But from my
point of view, Putin already understoodthat he still doesn't believe that the West

(46:04):
is not what he was longing tojoin. And I predict that Putin or
somebody after him, when they finallyunderstand that they will never ever be equals
to them, even being at thesame table, That's what Kuleba did not
understand when he was being put aroundthe NATO table by his alphabet and his

(46:30):
last name. He failed to understandwhat he was seen as. We will
always be for them as the Indiansfor breads during the revolution war in America.
They will only respect the one whoresists. They will only respect the
foe. That's when it will reallystart. It hasn't started yet, Alexey,

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I'm not fully in agreement with youhere. I think one of the
main problems here we combine problems andWest altogether. But yeah, as the
descriptor West and the rest. Butone of the problems of collective West is
that it is not feeling like defendingits own progressive, high technological based on

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the military, including, among otherthings, based on the military might world
and civilization. And instead they're saying, there are some bearded guys with a
case running around, and we areto blame for their poverty and their illiteracy
because we were the colonizers. Weneed to apologize and give them money.

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The problem of modernity, Julia,and that scientific civilization was supposed to better
and to fix the ways of peopleto the sacred. So essentially they had
to. It was designed to workfor the God, for the ideas of

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the Gourd, but instead they dideverything to tier these connections and more modernity.
The way it turned out to beis like a black logus, and
you can only see that in thereflection how the whole Resi fight between Ukraine
and Russia turned into the global Southagainst global West. The speed with which

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it happened exceeds anything in the recenthistory, because these unions usually take years
to build. He built that inthe mayor couple of years, and it
was all built on the anti colonialdiscourse. And it was successful because the
West really was wrong in regards tocolonialism. But not as the leftists on

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the West are saying that. Butthe West should have come to all these
countries they colonized as the light powerthat brings them to the better future.
And they had that component. Theywere teaching them. They were stopping the
wild traditions, they were bringing signs, they were bringing medicine and education.

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The movie with about Tags with PierceBrosnan, when one British officer destroyed the
whole society right and destroyed that amillion, two hundred victims, hundreds of
thousands, of stranglers active and oneBritish officer who brought the question and finished
it. I said, I canonly add here that right now many people

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are writing that, especially these fighterswith colonialism, that there was no sect
of thugs, that was just afight against British colonialists. And also the
writing that there were no sacrifices amongads tacks and in the Caribbeans there was
no cannibalism. And yeah, butall that are the fairytales of bloody colonizers,

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and those beautiful locals were much betterthan colonists from Europe. Yeah,
just like an other historian was writingthe quotes from those times, do you
want more soldiers or priests? Sendmore priests? Why the Conquista took over
the Indian lands because locals were switchingside or did not want to fight them.

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Right, there were only a couplehundred of Spaniards coming in, and
the locals were tired of all thebloody sacrifice. When Catholics came to Central
America and saw these tens of thousandsof bloody sacrifices, they thought they were
dealing with exact Satanism from their pointof view. Cortes indeed was asking for
not soldiers but priests, because hewas fighting another war. He was trying

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to get rid of Satanism in thatarea. And the West did that,
not on the monks. During thecolonization, they actually played a lot.
Yeah, they monks did help,but the West came as power, and
that's a mistake. They should havebeen a lighter side of power. Because

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it's also related to the Plato paradox, or we can call it Plato paradox.
Back in the times, the ancientGreeks divided everybody into barbarians and Ellen's
and whom did Alexander Mcedonski consider tobe his example here? Right? Indeed,

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and I cannot not quote who thebarbarians were. I think Xenophont had
it in one of the speeches ofthe Greeks. Commanders, look at these
barbarians. First of all, theydo not walk naked. They always dressed.
When we take their clothes off,they are fat, white and soft.

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Second, they pay taxes, andwe are free people. We do
not pay taxes. Third, theyhave a single unified system of measures and
weights. You know, this isbarbarianism. Right, every city has to
have their own. This is afantastic speech worthy of reading. And they

(52:05):
also like getting hired by those Persiankings as mercenaries. The dream of half
the Greeks was to become an officerand the Persian army because the money were
good. And Alexander, who isa pillar, one of the pillars of
the Western culture, Socrates makes abig speech about the Persian upbringing. Right,

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Xenophont wrote Kirpedia about the upbringing ofideal leader. Right. So all
that summarily in the Yunian way.The main story of communication between the West
and the East is the portrait ofDorian Gray. They ascribe everything bad to
the East, leaving everything good tothemselves. But they're afraid to look in

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the eyes of the portrait because thenthey'll be a metamorphosis happening to them if
they do. So, let's callit delicately. And when the Soviet Union
lost and the Warsaw Pact fell apart, the West had an ideal solution for
that situation. They had, indeed, to put the losing side as equals

(53:19):
at the table, and instead theystarted to celebrate their victory on the bones.
And now they have their roll back, and the rollback will wipe them
out that's my prediction. The Westhas lost this war in nineteen ninety one
when they failed to put the losingside at the feast table. As you

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said, in the twelfth century,how the knights dealt with the losing opponents,
that's one the Crusades. Remember,European chronis were talking about Saladin as
the king of justice, and theArabic sources are also singing songs and odes

(54:07):
to Richard the Lionheart. Because theywere Christians and they love their enemies.
They understood that on a certain level, where all children of God, and
there was a code that made thembehave in a certain way. And after
that they squabbled that the paradox ofthis war is that the East is very

(54:28):
slow to understand who they are andwakes up very slowly. Neither Chinese,
nor Iran nor Putin have woken upyet. But when they will, everything
will be for real. And forUkraine, I have a question, for
my beloved Ukraine and my compatriots,I have a question, are we going
to wake up or listening to thestories about the West and the fairy tales

(54:52):
will be continue doing something cryptic.The problem of Ukraine that we are now
between the West on Trotzkists and EasternTrotzkists, and haven't gotten our own dignity
and core. And we're running fromone illusion on the left to another illusion
on the right. And our politicsare running from being pro Russian pro Western.

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I'm waiting for it to become proUkrainian and that's still not yet.
There was a somewhat rhydoric statement,Oh no, Alexey, it is not.
I have a couple rough questions aboutUkraine following up. First of them
is the West needs to awaken,right, But dear sirs, if the

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West awakens and returns back to thestate of eighteenth century, and during that
time there were three divisions of Poland, which by the way, were also
divisions of Ukraine. And if theWest awakens, who told you that the
West, let's say, Poland andHungary will continue giving arms to Ukraine in
the normal state of the West ofthe eighteenth century, they would have eaten

(55:59):
a part of you. There isno situation of the eighteenth century. And
sorry for being so blunt, butthere is no case for the eighteenth century
world where the country that cannot sustainitself or may produce enough military means to
continue existing on the arms welfare fromits neighbors and would be just accepting and

(56:22):
wasting the armies of the enemies thatusually the country would have been consumed by
its neighbors and everything was over ratherquick. Well look you now, my
beloved compatriots are very happy that Frenchbrids are saying, well, supply you
more arms. Just keep fighting.But as always, everything is very visible

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and the thought that our viewers needto understand, yeah, all the scary
mysteries are still rather up on top. You can actually see all these hidden
knowledge and hidden and if you gothrough all the stages in some I don't
know secret societies, you may findthat the deepest hierarchy is there are being

(57:08):
taught the same thing that you've readin the childhood and that story about a
cornerstone right that you didn't even careabout. So all these stories that will
give you more storm shadows, morebombs, will give you more money to
fight. People don't understand the mainthing that the moment when Ukraine agreed to

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transfer their service with the military servicemandata into the West, that's where the
division of Ukraine started. Just earlierin the nineties, for example, they
were dividing the bombers and the missiles, and now they are dividing people.
That's the West for you. They'vecalculated everything here, and if you think

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it will awaken the interests of Ukraine, I think you're very wrong. So
I'll tell you, Yulia, thatmany of my beloved patriots think that in
the juxtaposition between Russia and the West, the West will bet on Ukraine to
hold Russia. No, I'll tellyou that the West will bet on Urban

(58:14):
like relations with Russia, because they'llsoon realize that Urban gets all the preferences
for Hungary and doesn't fight, andit lives in a good world, and
all that, all these expenses andeverything that's for Ukraine. Guys. I
spent two years in a trilateral andGerman format of the Normandy Group. I
know that Ukraine is not a comfortablecountry for the West. They don't know

(58:37):
what to do with us. Theywould have agreed with Russia over and over
again, but then there is Ukraine. And for those who do not believe,
I want to remind you of thespeech of George Bush from the Tribune
and our Congress in Ukraine, wherehe was trying to convince our congressman at
that time to still stick with USSRto not separate, and they did need

(59:02):
Russia in the way it was.They like Russia for different reasons. They
like it as a scarecrow, theylike it for geopolitical essence, they liked
as a foe still standing. Sothey were doing their best to prevent the
collapse of that. And Ukraine inthis format is really uncomfortable for them.

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It's like a spike poking them overand over. And do you understand the
level of independent politics that Ukraine needsto be playing in order to maintain its
independence as an strong country on thefold line of two tectonic plates falling apart.
And we should have been playing thisgame since nineties, not just announcing

(59:49):
that we're going west without really supplyingour wants and likes with any material background,
and then being surprised by Russia's takingus because we've been dreaming about the
West and it's so treacherous to attackthe nighbor just for the dreams that we
had. But now we have topay with our blood for these politics that

(01:00:09):
we failed to support with our militaryand other resources. And at the same
time, Russians, even the oneswho hate us. They acknowledge that the
quality of Ukrainian soldiers are fantastic.They're standing to the last, and they're
probably one of the best, ifnot the best, if you train them

(01:00:30):
right and use them right. I'lltell you that all the achievements. The
interesting fact, all the achievements ofthe Russian Empire were happening usually when Ukraine
was part of that war. Russiahas not won a single war without Ukrainian
support, except for maybe a warin Georgia in two thousand and eight.

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Right, I would add here Alexsay that Russian Empire was built and their
military might just speaking roughly, peoplewill probably comment on those and my sumbers,
but European infantrymen who was drafted fromthe Russian peasant and the horseback riders

(01:01:19):
from Ukraine, and that was thecore of Russian army of Russian Empire,
Imperial army, infantry from proper Russiaand cavalry from Ukraine. And the numbers
were so big that was very difficultto resist that army. You can also
read Yulia the deceased people from theSecond World War and from Afghanistan, just

(01:01:40):
the lists, and you'll find howmany Ukrainian last names are there. Ukrainians
actually right now have only one resource, the army of one point three million
people who are fighting, who knowhow to fight, and who are successfully
stopping such a huge machine as theArmy of Russia and stopping it and fighting

(01:02:01):
back and taking their territories back.We don't have another resource, and now
we see all the data about them, about these war fighters leaking into the
West. Guys, you should haveawakened at least at this point. This
is the last asset we have.Perhaps it's time to start thinking the Ukrainians,

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what's happening. Well, Alex Idon't think it's the only asset,
because Putin's idea, from my pointof view, is either Ukraine will become
a satellite of Russia, or itwill be torn apart and deteriorated to the
state that it's not even a stateand probably picked apart by different territories and

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just force the remaining population of Ukraineto leave, so that human capital that
Ukraine had would move to the West. And the longer the war goes,
the longer those people stay in theWest. And this is a direct profit
for Europe because it's migrants of thewhole other quality and it's a direct plus

(01:03:05):
for Puttin right. When Ukrainian refugeestarted running, some of them ran to
Russia, most of them ran tothe West. And everybody takes measures for
assimilation of Ukrainians. The only countrythat doesn't do anything to assimilate or to
bring their people back home is Ukraine. We don't have any slogans but come

(01:03:29):
back home and come back to thefront. Today. Today the head of
the budget committee came out and said, let's tax every salary over twenty thousand
because you're making too much money andwe need to install attacks for war and
twenty thousand crivenas so that you understand, it's about six hundred plus dollars.

(01:03:52):
In my last stream with Nikolai Feldmann, I was trying to remember at least
one reform that happened during the lastthirty years that indeed was good and profitable
for the population, that actually increasedtheir level of life. And they were
two remember too, right, thedigitalization and additional money that were given for

(01:04:16):
kids being born. So everybody wantsto make money on Ukrainians. And it
seems that the least country interested inits governance is Ukraine itself. There is
one very simple criteria of the effectivenessof power when population either or remains the
same or gross. Azerbaijan population grewin the last decade four over forty percent.

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Kazakhstan was increasing, Velarus stayed,Russia slowly losing. Ukraine. We
probably have the population and different countriesof Europe. They simplify their migration laws
for Ukrainians. They're actually doing smartthings there. They for themselves. They
sent people back to Ukraine. Thosewho fail to assimilate, those who are

(01:05:02):
not effective, they're sending them backand are eager to pay them one thousand,
fifteen hundred euros. But those whointegrated, they're taking them happy.
And Ukrainians are one of the bettermigrants they get recently. So I'm awaiting
when Ukraine awakens and we'll understand whatis really happening, and we'll start playing

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for itself, not for Russia,not for the West, not for anybody
else, but for Ukraine. Whenour beloved Ukraine will start to do that.
But it doesn't want to wake up, just doesn't it wants to fight.
Okay, we fought for what todo? What? So my second

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question, another inappropriate question, isokay, we discus that the West is
horrible. They prefer to make moneyrather than to fight war and to win
over put In, a disease thatafflicts every profitable society when riches turn into
their opposite. And we understand aboutput In that he is a dictator wants

(01:06:19):
power, eating a neighbor, createda whole dictatorship inside his own country.
Okay, get that. Now,Let's look at the country which at the
beginning of this war said we aredefending democracy against dictatorship. Let's look at
this country with the eyes of theWest. We could have expected this power.

(01:06:43):
And I would not implying that aboutpopulation of the country, but I
am implying the power of Ukraine becauseleadership of the country has indeed enough energy
to direct people. As Confucius wassaying, that leadership is wind and people
are the grass. So wherever thewind is blowing, the grass is leading.

(01:07:04):
So Agredian leadership said, okay,we are democracy against dictatorship. They
could have said that they don't holdthe power too strong, that they want
to invite their political opponents people fromthe West, whoever is eager to come
and help. They could also makea statement that they are the proper rules.

(01:07:26):
The proper Russia, and then thereis a piece of Russia on the
right, on the east that isturning into North Korea, and we want
to be a South Korea. Itis the fight of democracy against dictatorship.
Everybody who wants to be democrats welcomefight for us. This is a not
national fight because Putin has I thinkhis name is Atrashenko, the guy who

(01:07:49):
was bombing Mario Putin has Alexeyev.And we have, for example, General
Silski who was born in Vlasimir inRussia. So there are generals born across
different side of this border fighting forthe opposite side. So Ukraine could have
emphasized that this is a war againstPutin and the totalitarian usment dictatorship. Suddenly

(01:08:13):
that same West, here's a differentmotive. We're not going to do elections
here because the time is wrong.The government of national trust will not also
be created, will too concentrated forfight for democracy. Well, everybody who
speaks about corruption in Ukraine is theagent of Putin. Ukraine is a poor

(01:08:33):
victim of eternal Russian colonizers, andpeople in the West not all of them
appreciate the colonization rhetoric. By theway, the borders of nineteen ninety one.
Give us back the Crimea. Wewill not mobilize two million people,

(01:08:55):
but the West needs to help us. Given us, give us enough weapons
can bring Crimea back, and we'llexpel those genetic slaves from Crimea and that'll
be the victory of democracy. Butoh yeah, we also we'll give some
people five years in jail for likingwrong things on social media. And that's
where I have an interesting time.I looking at that. I understand everything

(01:09:18):
about Puttin, but I'm looking atUkraine and that puzzles me. And then
they're surprised that the weapons are notcoming in the proper quantities. What is
dumb, Yulia. It's a unitterritorial unit in ancient Athens. It's separated

(01:09:40):
with the fence from another part ofthe city. It was built around ten
main families, which had some mythologicalroots back in the day. So there's
all joke. In Russia. Thedemocracy is not the power of people.
Well is the power of the democrats. Oh that's about America, Yulia.

(01:10:03):
It's not only about America, it'severywhere in Russia. It's the power of
Verblovka Street. And the reason isthat them usually consists of those several families.
There usually is one family that's prevailingover the others. But still,
if remember upon US War the mosttalented generals who won those wars for them,

(01:10:30):
But see what did the them doto them in Athens? So I
will answer that question about these fleetleaders, but at first I will remind
our listeners that when in Athens therewas a Party of the Best People and
the Party of Democracy, the differencewas that Party of the Best People was

(01:10:54):
of course led by some person froma very noble family, but the Party
of Democracy was led by people byeven more noble family. And despite which
figures brought history, was it themysticleus or in Rome that could be Julius
Caesar or just as a prominent figureof Napoleon later in ages, et cetera.

(01:11:18):
And the second is that democracy hadanother consequence that democracies fought pretty badly
because the crowd usually falls for shortsighted goals, and there were situations when
after the One Wars at Navy,the crowd in Athens, in order to

(01:11:41):
execute thirty Trium leaders captains who failedto bury the deceased patriots who fought with
them alongside because of the storm thatcame over. So, yeah, exactly
that that's why Roblovka also doesn't needso successful generals. The West also doesn't

(01:12:02):
quite need successful generals. And Iwould remind that Socrates was poisoned by those
democrats by public vote, and anotherwas exiled and giveat and it's real bad.
He was a new hope for Athens. He was a new Alexander the
Great. But those were the Democrats. Because democrats is that the power of

(01:12:27):
the blocus strat democrat. Democracy isnot the true power of people. It's
very often about the power of democrats. And I don't really care much about
democracy or dictatorship mode in the country, but I'd rather pay attention to see
which of these groups giving birth towhat anthropotype, which of them are answering

(01:12:48):
the asks of the times, andif Alif is birthing now giving a birth
to a different anthropotype. And Azerbaijumwhere he managed to create a success out
of the heavy defeat over time,Well, you lived in the dictatorship,

(01:13:10):
Alexei. Yeah, I want tosay. Ukraine also doesn't look like democracy,
by the way, and this isone of the yeah, Alexei,
this is one of the sad things. I want to say that the West
sees certain familiar trends that were verycharacteristic of the young Putin. By the
way, so in the fight tobecome South Korea, Ukraine turns more and

(01:13:34):
more into North Korea, and thethe echotomy of democracy versus dictatorship is a
false economy for this war because itdoesn't give enough motivation, neither for the
West nor for us. If youtell Ukrainian soldier that he's fighting for democracy,
he'll be rather surprised. These aresome thoughts of people sitting on the

(01:13:56):
sofa in Prague or in Kiev OkayAlexei. But what if they're fighting for
the real Russia, the western Russia, No Julia. Ukrainian soldiers fighting because
of stubbornness and anger because he hasa symbolic role that he wants to fight
for. Butcha destroyed houses, killedfamilies, killed children. He wants to

(01:14:19):
pay back to Russia and make surethat the kids do not fight. But
this is a negative motive. Ukraineis still and by the way, soldiers
fight fantastically, but Ukraine as acountry cannot motivate positive goals for this war.

(01:14:42):
Negative. Yeah, they're obvious,So there would not be. But's
that's clear, but the positive onesfor what? What are we fighting for?
Democracy is not a motive. It'sa fake motive and it doesn't have
any sacredness to it. Nobody screamsfor democracy getting un the machine gun fire
near Top mac so democracy did notexcite anyone here for the American way of

(01:15:06):
life. Americans were fighting back inVietnam, right, but nobody is fighting
for democracy. Really. I'll say, what about seventeen seventy six Americans fought
for democracy? Well, not exactly. You that they were fighting for their
republic right, and they also hadslavery at that time. Well that's democracy

(01:15:26):
in Athens, they also had slavery, right. The biggest, the most
successful landowners and slave owners organized theUnited States. Not exactly democracy fight.
So what I think is an antithesis to that false economy of democracy and
dictatorship. Republicanism is another one isa good juxtaposition. Monarchy is another juxtaposed

(01:15:56):
society that can be put as adifferent poll. But democracy versus dictatorship very
faulty one. And when Biden intwenty one announced the juxtaposition of dictatorship versus
democracy, that was for the inneragenda, their fight against Republicans. There
was not a real motivation force forthem. Republic Yeah, that's another meaning

(01:16:19):
common project res publica. And Ithink like, say, you're right,
that's why we can probably go ventureinto the area of limited voting rights.
And these Greeks that we keep mentioningvery often all the way through to Plutarch

(01:16:40):
are talking about democracies, and theydidn't use the word dictatorship. They're using
the word tyranny. But they alwayswarned that every democracy quickly becomes a tyranny
whenever the crowd finds a leader.And oh yeah, sure, let's take
democratic Novgrad Back in Russia. Whatwas happening with the leaders, Oh,

(01:17:01):
that was the Republican love grit essentially. What happened with the Kniais's with the
city leaders, city mayors essentially whenthe council what did they do with them?
Oh yeah, they threw them out. And if you read the real
story of Russia, what we havethe ancient historic manuscript, what we have
available primary chronicle Povistimini clad. Eventhen Ukraine was a very problematic because the

(01:17:27):
councils kept throwing out the city managerswho were either stealing or were traders or
something else, And it was councilswho were usually throwing those knyais out for
any violation. And very often thecouncil was also rather problematic because the moment
when the city got a good leader, very often they got rid of him

(01:17:48):
because he was becoming too powerful.So yes, half of them were executed,
others were exiled, and Knees veryoften wanted more power because it was
part of his function. There werethree tasks to fight for them, to
judge them, and to be asecret leader sort of. And that was
the balance that they were fighting over. And I want to tell you about

(01:18:10):
democracy and dictatorship. An interesting thingI was reading recently the court book from
times of John the Terrible Ivan Grosney, I like the victims of black pr
right, so I was reading throughhis court actions and I discovered that peasants
of those times had way more rightsthan an American citizen today. I'm not

(01:18:31):
even bringing up Russian or Ukrainian citizenas an example. For example, he
would not be given to the czar'scourt without a decision by four people who
were locally elected representative of the peasants, local representatives of the township, local
court, and local administrator, Sothe terrible dictator. I've on the Terrible.

(01:18:56):
I think in Germany they had Chaffin'sCourt, almost the direct analog of
that. So the rights of thepeasant were so protected that not any other
democratic country can brag about the rightsof their peasants so much. Alexei,
don't fight for the rights of Johnthe Terrible, Well, because he was

(01:19:19):
torturing his people rather terribly. That'shence the Terrible. Well. Yeah,
you can compare him with Henry theEighth, right, and that's another bad
comparisonal le see, because I thinkHenry the Eighth is a product of the
medieval knighthood of Britain, destroyed itselfin the War of Roses, and king's

(01:19:42):
absolotism came to replace the knighthood.In the face of Henry the eight Well,
we can discuss Ion the Terrible.I think he's a very misunderstood figure
in many ways. Alexey, Ithink you're going into an interesting rabbit hole,
Yulia. I just like the victimsBlack pr and I like to study
them real will. I can tellyou a lot about Ivan Terrible, many

(01:20:03):
things that are not part of thecommon knowledge he was an effective manager Alexi.
Oh no, not really. It'senough though to read his letters with
Protestant and Catholic priests who came toconvince him to change Orthodoxy to Catholicism,

(01:20:25):
and you can see an interesting characterthere. So looking at the court books
of those days, American senators don'thave those rights that presence of his times.
So perhaps where I'm going to this, we shouldn't be looking at democracy
and dictatorship, but to start lookingat the real rights of people, well,
just let's not bring Ivan the Terribleas a symbol for that. Okay,

(01:20:46):
right, Let's look at the jurytrials or the court of peers,
right, European example. So Ihave another treacherous question to you, then,
Okay, all sides of this war, each of them has a blemish,
and each of them is hopeful forsomebody else. Europe was hoping Ukraine

(01:21:09):
to fight for it. Ukraine wantedthe Europe to pull it from its current
situation and from Mud, and Putinis figuring that since Europe doesn't know what
to do with Islamic immigrants and doesn'treally have any power left, it sees
time now to take over. Soand sorry, for edding it here.
People are saying that Putin is abusingthe current international situation that he is what's

(01:21:35):
the word that putting is starting allthat and starring has Belahamas and all.
I want to say that it allexisted even before him. He is just
one of the symptoms of a verysignificant disease that's happening with the West.
And he appeared exactly when it becameclear that Europe, even with the serious

(01:21:55):
diseases that come up, is failingto cope. So imagine that you would
be ahead of Ukraine. What wouldyou be doing, Julia, I don't
think we have good variance right now. Even if I have approached Putin and
told him, well enough with thatbullshit, stop killing each other. Let's
focus our discussion on the topic ofneutrality of Ukraine. Neutrality. I'm not

(01:22:20):
sure if you would accept that itwas actual in November of twenty two,
after we took Capson. I'm thinkingthat would not stop them now. Well,
but he would not even move much, right I have a feeling that
you're probably giving enough money and resourcesto hold it so that two sides would

(01:22:41):
be just grinding each other. Yeah, that's what Europe is doing exactly,
but there is a nuance. Ourmobilization resource is dwindling. We'll have maybe
a million and a half, soif you call upon three times half a
million, and that's it, andwe'll run out of that resource in about
two three years, maybe even lessthan that. What next then we'll have

(01:23:03):
Amo, will have armor, butwill have nobody to fight. Well,
so what can we do? Letme not say what I think needs to
be done, because all suggestions aboutwhat needs to be done are good when
people understand the choice that they're facing. The majority of Ukrainian audience is not

(01:23:24):
getting the reality of the choice rightnow. Russians also don't understand. So
basically neither side really recognizes the truesituation where they are, and my task
is trying to make sure they startrecognizing that. So in my feeling,
they will probably start understanding that withina year, So for another year will

(01:23:45):
probably be agents of this process isdiscussing these not just theoretically, but will
be actualizing these elements of the currentsituation, will be the agents of future
decisions and future changed later, butthis year will need to be actualized the
current situation and bringing that over andover again, so they will start recognizing
it. People are accusing me thatI keep scaring them too much in Ukraine,

(01:24:09):
and they're just failing to recognize thechoice they're actually looking at. If
they did, they would understand thatyou and I are very soft. Yeah,
unfortunately I recognized that, Alexei exactly. They would see that we are
very soft and gentle, pushing themtowards the real situation to see what actually
is happening and what the choice is. Too many of them still rely on

(01:24:31):
the awakening of the West. Justthat Postovski story, the Purple Light.
He's talking about the victor of Petlura, and he was saying that Kievans citizens
started to look like zombies of somewhat, and whenever there was a new rumor
floating around, and for a whilethey were discussing, that actively discussing,

(01:24:58):
and that those lasted for me beforesix hours, that maybe maybe there'll be
some French or somebody else's support,and so Petlura, before he left Kiev
and left it for Bolsheviks, theysat an interesting rumor that French gave a
beautiful purple ray that will destroy allthe enemies by just sweeping that on the

(01:25:21):
field, just to await that fromthe west they'll come a purple ray and
it'll help you fight Kievan citizens indeeddidn't sleep for the whole night, were
waiting for that magic weapon, andthen only in the daylight recognized that the
Tlura and his people left the cityovernight, and the next day Muravyev's Bolsheviks

(01:25:42):
came from the east and started executingpeople summarily near the big theater. And
that's the summary of the story aboutthe purple light. Apologies Alex say,
I haven't read Postovski, but whatit brings brings the story of Flavius,
who I read description of the tragedyof besieged Jerusalem, who described that as

(01:26:05):
the situation was deteriorating, the numberof supposed messengers who are promising that now
Messiah will show and will breathe fireon the enemies, and during the failure
of the city and destruction of thetemple, there were a lot of victims.
And I'm trying to quote that bymy memory, because at that time,

(01:26:27):
one of the people who were predictingsupposedly future, they were saying that
at the moment when the enemies willtake the city and will come to the
temple. That's when Messiah will appear. So a lot of women and children
ran to the temple and that's whenit was destroyed and fell on them.
There were a lot of casualties.U. Yeah. We can also take

(01:26:48):
a look at the speech of Titusbefore the last ultimatum, before the fall
of the temple. That's an interestingspeech that he made. I don't think
we have time for that, butI think the speech was completely invented by
Flavius. But the real speech actuallywas preserved by one Christian historian. It

(01:27:14):
was presented by Titus Livius. ThatChristian historian I'm trying to remember his name
here, he wrote that and leftit to the public. In the official
story of Flavius was saying that Tituswanted to save the temple. But the
real speech, which I think soundslike it was real, it actually sounded
that this temple needs to be destroyedbecause that is the root of Judaism,

(01:27:39):
and until we destroy that, theywill keep coming from all the cracks and
nukes. It's a complex story.Well, he's not talking about saving the
temple, and even in that otherone, and Flavius actually puts roman Athas
into that speech. May consider thatwhat he's saying is not true to some

(01:28:01):
extent, but he's conveying the Romanideas of that time, and an interesting
aspect of that is republicanism, andthis offers that they're giving two Judeans.
It's an interesting discussion. Let's talkabout that next time when we get together.
Yeah, we've been live for overan hour, and I would say

(01:28:25):
that in none of the streams whereI talk right now, do not ask
me for decisions what needs to bedone. I think first task, we
need to make sure that our computerotsunderstand where we are. They need to
understand the situation. And thank you, Julia, you're like nobody else,
also helping to bring the light toreality. Thank you, Alexey. I'm

(01:28:45):
doing my best and I'm trying notto avoid the hard questions that show up
in my mind. Alexei, thankyou very much, and thank you to you there

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