War in Ukraine, Analytics. Day 1146: Why Does Zelensky Slow-Walk the Peace Talks? Arestovych, Feldman

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everybody, this is Project Alpha. My name is Nicola Felmon.
You are watching War Diary with Alex Aristovitch Live. Hello Alexe,
good evening. All right. I remind everybody that I want
to remind our listeners that our format here is dedicated
first of all to the events of this war. So
let's take a look at the war events, namely, yesterday

(00:36):
strategies Assumi thirty four people dead. The formal logic of
this strike from the point of view of damaging Ukrainian
armed forces is it effective? Minimal zero? Nicola. As the
result of this, the commander of the SUMI Reactive Artillery
Brigade had died at perished, not because of this, he

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actually was by accident in the nearby cafe. That's what
is at least reported. Most of the casualties are civilians.
And this is a repeated motive of this Russian Ukrainian war.
Russians are getting some agent league from Ukrainian side that
they will be military gathering or some event happening, and

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they send two Iscander missiles. It's about six million dollars together,
and it's not even about the price. This is a
rare missile for them. What's put it this way, that
there are a lot more targets in Ukraine that they
have than they have these missiles, and not a single
army in the world, however degenerate some officers or commanders

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may be, there would not be hitting civilians purposely. Even
Second World War German assas or modern day Iranian troops,
they would not be attacking civilians. Plus, this is a
ballistic missile launch. So every time they launch a ballistic missile,
they actually send a note to NATO. Not too many

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people are aware, but there is a joint group that
discusses that keeps traice of Russian launches, and Russia has
to inform NATO or tries to inform NATO not to
cause global cataclysm. So there is also not a simple process.
Is conder missile is launched from a prepared site, minesweepers, UAVs,

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radi electronic defense. They get there, they make a launch
and they leave it immediately. But altogether this is not
a simple thing. It's a three or four hour deal.
Doing all that and going through all that hassle just
to hurt people in crevaux, rogue or assume in some
public place is mostly a conspiracy theorist field. So what

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one needs to understand. Of course, this is a military
this is a war crime from Russia. You cannot qualify
that any other way because war crime is not that
they targeted civilians. They neglected the lives of civilians when
selecting the target, and that falls under certain rules of

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war adopted internationally. And this is why it should be
qualified as the war crime. And this is a stemic factor.
It's been in work here in Ukraine all the time
when Russia attacks us. Don't forget her Own where they
hit kids' hospital, don't forget Halico where they damaged kindergarten.

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And in just in the last few days there were
ten strikes like that. This is in regards to Russian side.
We should not have any illusions. Russian military political leadership
will kill as many children as they want to, not
on purpose, but they definitely would not fret. They would

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easily add more. And it's not about Russia too much,
it's about us. This is what we should be asking
ourselves about. The first who was reporting that was Marianna Bizoglad,
when she's basically taking all responsibility on her shoulders without
even being an official person at this point, Conna dot

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Mayor comes out and says, also something is wrong there.
And here we discover that the head of Sumi Defense Administration,
who is also a general and also General Instriyenka, well
known in the infantry since the time he was commanding
a thirtieth brigade in twenty fourteen. There's a lot of

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interesting new ones of his command, regardless of many warnings
from that they received. As both Marianna and Mayor are
commenting about, they're holding the seventh anniversary one hundred and
seventeenth Brigade of Territorial Defense, and they are doing it

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in a basement of the building where children's event is
supposed to be held at eleven. They're holding their event
at ten. At eleven is the kids play on the
upper stories of that same building. And this is a
really wrong approach. You did not do things like that

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so formally. They indeed held the meeting at the basement
outside the easy to hit areas, but they did it
in the wrong building. This is a criminal neglect, in
my opinion, not the first and not the last. We
already experienced the missile strikes during her twenty eighth brigade

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near the Paracia celebration when the missile hit them during
the process, Marianna that this is still not investigated and
guilty people are not punished. And in this story we
can see as the witmus test all of these dark
sides of the Ukrainian insurgency army dug out. As I

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was talking about in previous streams, this approach stinks those
military who are supposedly always right and should never be criticized,
and are beyond any approach or any punishment. All that
conceals really really poor decision making, criminal neglect, I think.

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And of course Russians committed the war crime, but who
gave them an opportunity? Who provided an opportunity to commit
this crime? And this is our military political leadership of Ukraine,
classically appointed by president. And now that proper question would
be will they be punished for that? I can predict
with almost one hundred percent probability that no, even if

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one or both of them will be removed, they will
be removed for something else, not for neglect in this case,
not to give feed food for Russian commentary by Slaviov
and Simonian, right, But that makes us secondary, that makes
us dependent on the commentary of Russian talking heads. Should

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we be reacting to some of them singing certain songs
or going to the shower? Do we need to change
and behave in accordance to whatever Russian put In sponsored
talking heads are talking about. These people who insist on
keeping an eye on what Moscow says are mad. In

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my opinion, they're attacking the woman who named the real
cause of what happened there to prevent that happening again.
They are attacking her instead of trying to figure out
how to prevent these things from happening. So again, I

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like say, we did talk about Marianna before this specific one.
This event is at the bare minimum. If they were targeted,
if Russians were targeting our military, they failed to achieve
their goal. We managed to save our troops. And some

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people are saying, some publications are saying that we learned
some things and military servicemen were not killed by were
not maimed or wounded or injured or destroyed by this
missile attack, unlike, for example, one hundred twenty eighth brigade
that you mentioned, when a lot of them were dead

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were killed as the result and a lot of trainees
strikes on their facilities caused a lot of casualties. Here,
we don't see that the only officer that was killed
is most likely a random victim of these events. So
can one say here indeed that organizationally Ukraine is improving

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and that's why the military servicemen have not perished as
the result of that strike. Right, the ones who were
targeted did not die, but we lost thirty four civilians. Well,
Alex say, the trolleybus was hit and there were no
military next to or inside the trolleybus. Well, they were

(09:44):
not hitting the trolleybus. Nicala trolleybus got hit by shrapnel.
They were not targeting that specific vehicle. As you could
see for those of you who watched the video, there
is a lot of shrapnel in the wall that was shot.
Alex say, they were some cassette type munitions on them. Nikolay,
it is just a warhead the way it is structured

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and dismissal. So of course they were targeting to maim
and kilmore. And of course it's Russians. They are not
fretting to shoot two missiles on Sunday morning in the
middle of the city with civilians out and about, so
no surprise is there. But what do you imply, Nikolay,

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about the event with our generals? Well, like I say,
I think that one can imply that our generals created
the conditions for all these casualties Siskyi and Estayanka and
understand that war is probably the cruelest expression of mankind.
But currently it does look like there are no serious

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reasons to punish military leadership for preserving the lives of
their soldiers, at least for soldiers and damage to the
armed forces of Ukraine. I hope, Nikolay, this is humor.
I hope this is self humor. Nobel say, I'm rather
frank here. All right, let me explain it in simple words, Nikolay,

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army exists to perish before any civilian dies. And when
in the situation we have civilian who perished and military
who survived, this is complete and version of the purpose
of the army. In this case, all their commanding officers
are the ones who led to that situation should be
reprimanded and thrown in jail for life. Oh they're patriots, Okay,

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fifteen years maybe. Seriously, if we are looking at situation,
if you're a real military, real officer and whatever, you
made a decision wise, if it caused the death of
civilian and you managed to survive, I mean, that's a
reason to finish your endeavor on this planet. If you're

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have any old school manners in you these days, I
understand they probably will not do any of that, but
at least the court at least they should be punished
for that. All right, Alexei, let's accept this maxima that
you explained about the purpose of the army. Then one
should say that there should not be any military events

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in the areas where civilians congregate, where there is a
risk that they may get hurt. Right, is that correct
statement conclusion number one? Of course not. Of course, under
no circumstances there should be events like that in the
middle of the city. Moreover, near assume there is a great,
not a too well known, but very well masked, fortified

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place where they all could have been rewarded for seven
years of their brigade and they could be celebrating anything
they like. But another interesting point here that is widely
spread by Russian propagandists and Russia proper. They're saying that
this brigade actually participated in Kursk incursion, So understandably, that's

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why they were shooting them up with such a vigor,
and one can ask, if you guys are organizing the
event thirty miles from the border where the Russian troops
that just kick you out of their region are based,
you need to also accommodate not only for ballistic missiles
but for gliding aerial bombs, because they fly for seventy miles,

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fifty or seventy miles. And instead this is completely neglected.
And I think the group of people who should be
punished would be the ones who are making decision about
celebrating it this way. But I suspect they will not
be punished because they are appointees of Zelenski and also
team members of Serski. Because also our country just does

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not punish its own officers and generals in this war,
or high ranking at least, and all the pathos in
our media and blogs in the Ukraine that Russians are
to blame do not even touch, do not even think
about mistakes made by Ukrainian military. This approach pushes everybody

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to neglect the cause an effect, and I would only
remind here for everybody of the Sunzu document where he says,
if you want to understand the system, pay attention to
how it rewards and how it punishes. In our system,
nobody gets punished, some of the higher rank getting rewarded.

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But I think we lost our war when we stop
punishing our military for criminal decisions. All right, Alexay, thank
you for explaining some formalities here, But in my view,
I want to also discuss another angle. We want to

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go back to the question of what is our tactics
in this peace track? Do we have it at all?
Because it seems like until this trick and Sumi we
saw a Russian attack on Krivoi rogue. Again they neglected
the civilian casualties. Same thing in Sumi. And between these
two strikes there were other events carried out their other

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attacks carried out by Ukrainian troops on different Russian energy
and infrastructure objects their dual purpose. I think most of
them are targets. And in light of all that, I
do not quite understand what peace track are we talking
about and are we on a peace track? Are there
any limitations? What is the logic between two sides and

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what political signals should one be sending or guessing based
on the behavior of each other. Look, Nikolai, it's rather
simple here in this regard, there are only two steps
on the peace track. First of all, we have not
reached any conclusion on the earth minerals. That's one. And

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two is the interview that Ziganski gave to CBS channel,
which is actually in a state of conflict with Trump,
and Trump reacted to that with a pretty strong toid.
So what Zangansky is doing to save the lives of
his people. He goes to the opposition channel that Trump
is I think taken to court currently because this channel

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continues to populate media sphere with anti Trump rhetoric, and
he gives an interview there that is easily pushed around
and used to attack Trump, and he attacks Vans in
this interview and talks of Trump as almost the agent
of Russia, that Americans are informationally helpless and everybody is

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impressed with Russian propaganda. And he pleads to Trump to
visit Ukraine and see it with his own eyes. What
is the message of this, Oh, right, Ale say it's
not friendly, right exactly, it's not the messages. You cannot
be intermediaries. You are sort of serving putin in your

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current state. You need to come to Ukraine and start
serving Ukraine. And our purposes. Zadnski here performs as a
saint who comes out and says, you cannot serve God
and money. At the same time. Putin is money, so
serve us. We are the gods. We are morally correct
in this country. We are more to the left. And

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you have only one option, mister Trump, to apologize, to
visit our townships that are being destroyed by Russia and
understand the picture, and start sending tomahawks into Russian proper.
By a thousand, it's difficult to imagine. Have to hear
mind lend mine under this negotiation track, as well as

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the degree of detachment from reality, and you can bring
a long list of diagnosis for mister Ziedanski. I think
you'll run out of sheets of paper if he'll be
describing his current psychological condition based on his statements, from
which Trump of course makes a conclusion that Zidansky is
an active opposition to Trump's administration. He's attacking things that

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are not normally to be attacked and also forbidden by producoal.
He throws moral degree into attacking Trump and also accuses
Trump and his administration into working for Putin's edmin directly
or indirectly. This is just a stream of attacks. And

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what is it for? So that Trump's administration would give
more aid, give better intel data I would be tracing
Russian is condemn missiles better. By the way, Americans usually
do send data when they get it to Ukraine to
help us defend ourselves. So what is that the march for?
To fortify the rare earth deal? To change it again? Again?

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All right, let's say let me Okay, you finish your thought.
I will remember my hypothesis here. No, Nikolai, it's here,
turn you just pick up. Well, my hypothesis here is
that Zenansky shows this way that he is in the corner,
that he is not comfortable, but this is the only

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thing he can do from this corner. Well, now, Nikolay's
this is not a corner. This is a position. If
it is a corner, he placed himself in that corner.
But his position, as I can read it, is that
you all are dumb and I am smart, and I
will teach you all to love your homeland or your graine.

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And your only exit here is to and join us
in taking put In. And it's an amazing flexibility from Zelensky,
probably rival to the old factory of concrete manufacturing same

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level of flexibility and translating that into normal language, normal parlance.
From Zelensky's language, it means that I don't care how
many more Ukrainians die, I'll continue this war. And he's
accusing everybody being immoral that they're not joining him with
an open heart and a lot of money, all right, LEXI.

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And then Trump of course explodes that after that, he
of course cannot be called pro Russian. He continues with
the same sanctions that Biden implemented. He actually is adding
new sanctions against Russia that actually make it more difficult
for them in the area of scientific data, scientific knowledge transfer.

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They're being disconnected from certain databases as the country with
Trump government sanctions. Am I understanding it right that the
process is still exacerbated by Trump and his people, Nicolay.
Even if this will not be exacerbated, this would not
be pushed further, we still have would have a situation

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where United States continues to supply military equipment to Ukraine,
continues to give Intel data to Ukraine. But the status
of intermediary is problematized when you're doing all that plus
in order to finish this conflict United States are trying
to finish it with obtaining certain economic interests in Ukraine,

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and of course desire to defend them from any circumstance
which I could have played looking at all that saying
you know what, we don't need intermediaries like that. Bring
us somebody who would not be interested in this conflict financially.
Yet Ukraine comes out and says that Trump administration is

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not helping them enough, and does it very vocally. So
I'm in a constant moral dilemma, and for the last
two years, I'm feeling we should be doing our streams
with ninety percent of cusswords and ten percent of data
because it's just physically hard to not swear. I very

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often detest how I describe things because I am bringing
very long weaves to explain what happens when I really,
really deep inside want to switch to military language and
just use expletives to explain, to carry the thought to
our audience. But you will behave right, Alexi. I'm trying.
I'm trying to collect what I want to say here.

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What is not clear to me is that, Okay, yes,
United States do take a lot of responsibility onto their shoulders.
They basically take the function of control or that they
are responsible for Ukraine in front of Russia in the world.

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Do you want addressing Russia to call Ukraine our proxy?
Sure you can. And Russian seem to believe in this
negotiation framework. They even start telling him about Hockey, giving
him some portraits and stuff through Whitkov, and they start
emotionally talking about it, and apparently they achieve some agreements.

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These agreements are achieved between the United States and Russia,
not directly between Ukraine and Russia. So these responsibilities are,
what these terms are, What Ukraine can do, what Ukraine
should not be doing. What signal does Russia give with
these casualties when they hit civilians in this process? I mean,

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which signal, Nikolay, are Russians giving to America? Yeah? Right,
I think it's some system, right, some signals. Oh no, Nikolay,
this is not the system. You don't understand things about Russia.
They're not giving any signals. Let me tell you with
one cuss words, how it works. When I first joined

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at this Institute of Infantry back in nineteen ninety four,
we all wanted to be super masculine, and the first
thing we were interested in what kind of hand to
hand combat will be taught to us? It was the
paramount important piece of knowledge in Soviet army. There were
four kinds of hand to hand for levels of hand

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to hand training. Level one was basic and level four
was for special forces. And we had the head of
the pe in this institute, who still at that time
was the owner of the record on officers spentathlon, much
more complex sport than say just running marathon. So we

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were standing there on a square in front of him,
all tied up with our belts and buckles up under
our armpits. If you remember the Treasure Island cartoon that
was kind of that type. The way they're working and
standing there, and so we're standing there listening to his
speech and we're asking him. When he said to you

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any questions, We asked him, what kind of hand fighting
are we going to be todd hand to hand two,
three or four? And his answer was fellas in Red Army,
there is only one hand to hand system, the system
of a central factory. And until you do not have

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your personnel so much that the only thing they can
think about is falling and sleeping, the battle worthiness of
your detachment will always be vectoring towards zero. And since
there is thirty or one hundred and eight eighteen people
for each of you, because you're young officers, you need

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to be tough, and that's what we're here to do.
And that's what I'm trying to weave it into. Nikolay.
You do not understand the system of Russia. The only
system they have is the Central Factory. Their main goal
is to respond to the message sent from the center.
The Center says we're destroying whoever we call fascists today,

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and that's what they're doing. And upon receiving such order,
for example, in Kirsk, they get a message that there
will be aggregation of Ukrainian military personnel and a certain
locale right. They will not be wearing any armor because
when you reward them, they're not in bullet profests, not

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in helmets. And as Russians believe, these were the people
who were participating in Kursk District incursion, and as they believe,
I'm not saying it's true. They've destroyed things there and
they've tortured supposedly civilians. Again Russian beliefs. I did not
share them. And then all they do is literally roll

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out their missiles and shoot that area, and nobody will
ask you. Lavrov will not call Ministry of Defense and ask, hey,
what are you doing there? You're breaking our peace negotiations
with Trump. No, put In provided them with the favorable regime,
favorable mode for making these decisions, and they're just following

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through with that centralized fluckery. That's it. There is no
secret signals or special politics. As some people start to
gather around and send messages around on social media that
this is a systemic policies of terror. Fellas as when
a quentin some mine said, I would have paid big

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money for that to be systemic terror. This is not.
You don't understand whom you're fighting with. Everybody writing how
horrible Russians are on the fourth year of war, No,
you should not be asking about them or Trump, but
ask about yourselves. How by the fourth year of this
war you do not understand whom you're fighting with, and
you're writing about the eternal struggle of Ukrainian people. So

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in several centuries you failed to recognize your enemy. And
I'll quote you Stravovsky brothers from Inhabited Island, when somebody
was in their book tortured by counter intel. He addressing
new country intel officers, was telling guys here so puny

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compared to the previous ones. You're too emotional about what
you're doing, and that gives me force over you. In
the good old Imperial counterintelligence, they've been sewing my sea
that are in hand. They've been sewing that handoff. And
they were complaining about low salaries, about poor food, about

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all the regular daily activities, and that was also followed
by bureaucratic messaging back and forth. That's when it was scary.
That's when I was afraid of them. They were the machine.
And you're so emotional that you don't scare me at all.
And that's a similar thing. That's where I'm going to
the problem of Russian strikes on our kids is not
that they're greedy and horrible monsters who've got the blood

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dripping off their fanks, who want to destroy more civilians
and they on near near easter celebration. No, this is
a dumb machine. There are lieutenants and kernels with all
their daily routines and problems and getting yelled at by

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their wives that colonel could be launching ballistic missiles on
Ukrainian children and his wife could be texting him saying, hey,
you have failed to check our youngest school book for
two years and you need to go to school now
and do something and stop by the shop by something.
This is how it's. On the other side, you do

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want to imagine that you're fighting with eternal enemy and
you're heroic. Okay, that's the play. But on the other side,
it's so primitive and so mundane that basically somebody would
get a message don't forget to eat your lunch before
you should the missile. You put more emotions into your
social media than they put in the month of their

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life activity. As long as you're fighting in thinking that
you're fighting with eternal enemies, you do not understand what's
happening there, and that means you cannot win. I'm sorry,
and I'm also following the trend of our Ukrainian insurgency
army dugouts fans that smaller project fans. I would say, you, guys,

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with that approach, you're doing everything to lose it. Can
I quote one post Nikolai that I wrote, because not
everybody's familiar with that philosophy, and Barracks taught me one
simple rule. There's got to be added value in every
statement that you make, the thoughts that have not sounded
before or that have been pronounced but with a different intonation.

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Different meaning those who esteem their emotions upon looking at
the Russians attacks on our civilians, they start going down,
and unfortunately or fortunately, the vector of all those fans
of the narrow project for Ukraine already defines what will

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happen to them and to their project on the fourth
year of this war. Writing about vulgarity and psychological degeneracy
of Russians, one needs to be not too bright. It's
pretty clear with Russians actually, for achieving their political goals,
they will kill as many civilians as they want to
and I let a couple more scoops on top. It's

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also clear with Trump they want certain agreements about Arctic,
about space, and they will historically take a lot more
abuse from Russia on this topic as long as they
get their things in place. So running around screaming about
morality or immorality of certain events in this war, this

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is not the right vector of for Ukraine. This is
the vector to the historic told the world politics is
done by brutal leaders. What do Ukrainian authorities, what kind
of signal they give. Their signal is when everybody will
understand that we're so noble or democratic. We're the ones

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who are suffering. Why they're not understanding it, Why can't
we get to the global justice? And I'm explaining here
that nobody's democratic and clean. Democratic ones do not jail
blogger who accidentally took a picture of Drafting Commission building.
They do not give her five years in colony. This

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is a broken life after that? What for? Moral people
do not use dead bodies of their enemies to write
the alphabet letters. And they're not giddy about the shark
eating some tourists from Russia. Ukraine insurgeoncy Army dugout as
a project is pretty basic and it does want to

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crawl towards the grave. You know. The projects that want
to live, they look for all opportunities they can find.
They try to expand. The ones that want to wither
and die, they cut everything off, just like the Institute
of National Memory cut off Johnyevsky, the famous humorist author
from their registries. And during the times of this project

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that narrow Ukraine project, Ukraine's population dwindled in half. Projects die.
People can change this project has no hope. There will
be no Trump, Shoals or anybody else to save it.
Nobody can save it. This project has no perspectives. It
only has death, and it is death, and it brings death.
The trajectory of survival for Ukrainians begins with changing the

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vector of questions, not about what's wrong with Trump or
what's wrong with Russians, but what's wrong with us? And
until we start seeing these questions in the official discourse,
we do not have much chances. We're gliding towards that
waterfall with the death at the bottom, and these cases

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will continue repeating over and over again and again. Because
the enemy is the best teacher. Russians are probably tired
of sprinkling all that civilian blood in our faces, so
that we start thinking about what's happening. That we probably
should not be gathering our military for rewarding ceremonies together

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in one place, and we should not be standing behind
a mortal debt project that leads us to Paraguay option
fight till the last of us. We need to find
our own position in this world. We need to understand
that the existing economic system will be a reflection of

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our ideological system. And it will lead also to the
probability of wars with our neighbors in one or the
other fashion, regardless of the last name of the leader.
And here's a simple example of this project. The debt
to a Minister of Defense is about fifty four billion.

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These are people who took hundreds of millions of dollars
for contracts from Ministry of Defense. So they pocketed this
money and disappeared. And they're also the ones who are
actually manufacturing armored vehicles. I'm not going to name company
names here, but they're manufacturing, and of course they're making
some money on it, but they're manufacturing in the right

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in order quantities armored vehicles a PCs with creating military
So now Special Instigation Committee is now prosecuting this factory
that works. They're not spending time on prosecuting and catching
those who took money and left. They're prosecuting the ones
who are actually manufacturing things. And they're basically looking for

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bribes from this organization. And these are the signals given
from the central power. If you are working for this
country and if you are making money, and if you
are doing something positive, there'll be administration coming for your
money and shaking you for more. And this is an
endless cycle. It never stops. While those who just steal

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money and run with it, they continue to be unprosecuted.
Some of them, even from the administration, remain in power,
remain in their positions, and the worst case, they may
be demoted somewhere. If you're sharing with the right people
in your system, you're going to be fine. And that's
the signal that is being sent from our political system

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that all the good things are being erased and suppressed. People,
I want to ask, what do you want in these
conditions with that signal? Do you want to win with
this project or these signals? And again, to sum it up,
Ukrainians need to understand one thing that I think everybody
else understood except for Ukrainians. The war is not a

(37:47):
problem for your gradient. This is a consequence. This is
the consequence of the main problem. Yes, it is big scale,
it is tragic and seems it's bigger than the Sun
and et cetera. The problem with Ukraine is the existing project.
It dwindled the numbers of Ukrainians since the nineties and

(38:08):
fifty percent. It's a simple criteria how successful the project
is is your population growing hours, dwindled in half. All
the Holodomores and all the wars taken together have never
damaged Ukraine so much as this project. If you lost
half your population, no, not all of them died, most
of them actually fled, then you probably should start thinking

(38:32):
something must be wrong here. But at the moment when
you need to start thinking and to change this project
and to figure out the new vector that will finish
the war, that will give a chance for Ukraine, because
this project, even if Trump finishes with war, this project
will not give Ukraine a chance in the long term
because after at the end of this war, those military

(38:55):
officers who are defending US now will probably flee the country.
Justice fine. The main challenge is to recognize that we
need to change our project. The war is always about
shadow in Yunngen, meaning all the dark shadows flowed up,
both in Russians and in Ukrainians, because war is always
a dark event. But it's not the one who captured

(39:18):
Pakrovsk that wins in war. It's the one who integrates
the shadow better. And integration of shadow starts with acknowledgment
that yes, we do kill, we do shoot, we do
a lot of vulgar and weird moralizations on the deaths
of our soldiers. And I'm not even talking about finishing

(39:40):
the war. I'm just saying about taking immediate measures so
that our children would stop dying. And people do not
see it from the inside, because while they're under the
impulse of the social media and the government funded media,
it's difficult for them to get outside of this framework.

(40:01):
They're being hit. The media keeps screaming like a Kivo
rock right the missile hit on the kids playground, and
then UAVs are hitting them at night. People are just
in a condition where it's difficult for them to raise
their heads and understand that without changing the way we
do everything here, the way we organize our country here,

(40:25):
we will always be facing the same problem. Ukraine will
be dwindling and will be slowly with the rings Zelenski,
parsh whoever you put there, the same story will repeat
in just a different, slightly different flavor. And by the way,
both Trump and Putin are fighting with that project, and
we should be fighting with that project. And our exit

(40:46):
is to change this project and take initiative away from
Trump and Putin, because the way they are finishing with
this project is different than how we would prefer to
have it. And the problem is not that it's against Russia.
First of all, this project is against Ukraine, right. It
denounces a lot of smart people, writers, politicians, successful businessman.

(41:13):
A Nashatova, the most successful banker in the history of Ukraine,
mother of five kids, whose husband participated in this war,
who donated a ton of money to our military, apparently
suddenly sanctioned by Zidansky government. Why no formal reasons. They
just want to split her business and enjoy it. No,

(41:38):
I don't know how else to explain to Ukrainians that
it's not about this war Pultian and Trump, It's about
what we are contributing to this world, to ourselves people.
Dansky was ready to sign peace deel. Trump's offered to

(42:00):
the nanscan Putin was generally agreed upon. But when he
performed his act in the Oval office, and he performed
it for one simple reason. He wants to exchange a deal.
He doesn't care about who owns natural resources, because all
of these in Ukraine they belong to oligarchs and they

(42:22):
cannot mind them because they don't have technology. So if
Americans came with their corporations instead of our oligarchs. What
would happen. We've got technologies, jobs, processing facilities. I'm not
even talking about more remote perspectives that Americans probably by
twenty thirty five would have brought us to European Union.
And here we already have processing and we got the

(42:42):
same tariff. Politics and infrastructure and mining is all set
and available for Europe and probably secondary processing and we
could be making batteries and other things. This contract is
beneficial for Ukraine from all angles. There is no real
rare earth mafia may beIN choke in his environment. They're
just some oligirks who still owned the area. So the

(43:04):
question is what is he defending so much. I'll tell
you what. He understands. The project is good. He understands
that it's not signed for one reason because he wants
his own personal security guarantees. And before that he asked
for security guarantees just for leaving. Remember he said I'm
ready to leave. But when in the Oval office he

(43:25):
made this weird act when he was not given any guarantees,
he was told that it's not about you leave, and
you idiots in Ukraine supported him. He got the rating higher.
Now he is demanding other security guarantees for him. Now
security guarantees is the right to be re elected, which
absolutely goes against the wishes of Trump administration. Of course,

(43:51):
Russia is not appreciating that, and I think Ukrainians should
not be liking it too. And when you ask me
what can we do here in Ukraine? Do not support
him because with more support that he gets from you,
he continues to pump up that bloody war machinery that
continues to sprinkle civilian blood, children's blood in your faces.

(44:14):
Without that, he would not be feeling support, He would
not be demanding the right to be re elected because
he has rating. He is now holding upon the throne
that is sitting on your blood. And you're just asking
what can we do? You still don't understand. It's a
simple story. You are feeding the death machine that's devouring

(44:38):
you and your families with your likes, with your support,
with your posts. These people in the office, they react
only to the applause. In six years, they have not
made a single popular decision or smart and popular decision.
Now they're already talking about draft of eighteen year olds,
about drafting women. All that will happen, if will continue

(45:00):
supporting them. With your support, all that is in the future,
your dear family members, after a ten year prep course,
will go to that war because you're supporting him, when
your daughters will be drafted instead of sons, and they
will be attacked because now they're servicemen. Even though they're

(45:24):
not on the front, they still become the targets. Right,
you will be talking about how bloody the Russians are
instead of understanding what exactly are you doing with all
your likes and all that stuff in a social media
How else can I deliver that to you. I will
not let you go. I'm also you know, I'm setting

(45:46):
up my own central fucker here. I will not let
you continue killing yourselves until you understand how that system works. Well,
Alex say, I think I know how it works. In
our case, there is an audience of your channel, audience
of Alpha, and I think among our viewers we probably
don't have a large percentage of those people who do

(46:07):
not understand that. We probably preaching a bit to the
choir with our audience specifically. But the problem is how
to send this message to the other audience. And you
know yourself how different that audience is, what their moods are.
We understand the sociological layers and concerns. There is some

(46:30):
mistrust to Trump grown up by President Zelenski, and bipartisan
support from the United States is not more a goal
for Ukraine because of Zelenski's vector. Apparently now we're all
leaning all in for Democrat support. We know what Republican

(46:52):
side is and we don't want to go with it
with the Zelansky office. Understand Republican side is more complex.
You're probably more familiar with that. There are at least
three ideological centers of influence in it. There is a
moderate part, there is more conservative part, and then there
is an ultra neo conservative part like MAGA and all that.

(47:14):
So in good flow events we should be building relations
with each of these fractions. Yet see how we treat
victorious parts. Who is the Ukrainian by birth, who is
the only Ukrainian born congresswoman in the US, who was

(47:35):
here how many times seven times on the front? She
visited the front? I think you tried to bring her
to limelight, to the office of the president, and what
it is ending with today today, just for basic words
that are commonly spoken by Republicans, Zelenski is propaganda machine

(48:00):
starts to destroy her or to pervert her words and
obstruct her possible actions, and breed more hatred to that
part of American people. And it's not only in Trump
that the problem is the way it is presented by Zelensky.
It's a big fraction of Republican side in America. Right

(48:24):
According to the recent poll, fifty three percent of Republicans
considered Zelenski to be one of the responsible people in
this war. And today when Trump says that Biden put
In Zelensky are responsible for all these people dying, millions
of people. Maybe if it's not millions, but hundreds of thousands,
still big numbers, all the guilty parts are named. Right,

(48:45):
over fifty percent of Republicans think that Zelenski there's a
lot of responsibility or guilty for that process too. And
we are not working with that in Ukraine, right, we
don't need it, Yeah, right, Nikolay, we work with it
very crudely. Sinansky goes to an opposition TV channel in
America and declares that Advance is bad, finishing the story

(49:11):
that he started in the Oval office. Look where it
all comes from. It's the same story as with Janoski.
The same psychological mechanism when mother is protecting a child.
For example, if you want to understand psychological mechanism, just

(49:31):
take it back to one hundred thousand years ago. Mother
was gathering various little three year old nearby. A small
baby is on her chest, and suddenly there is a
hyena or some tager nearby. What is mother doing? She
grabs a stick and reading herself to the mortal fight
to defend her kids. And here on a stick there

(49:56):
is a name of Bulgakov for Ukrainians written. What Ukrainian
mom does? She throws that stick as far as she can,
and she says, I'll rather fight bare handed. She takes
another stick and there is Raniezski last name on it.
She throws it away again. She's told go run, take shelter,
and she runs to the subway and that was dug

(50:17):
during the Soviet times, and then she screams that Soviet
Union is destroying her. Normal political leaders who need to
be sort of parental figures to people of the country
should not care about what is written on the stick
that they used to fend off from hyenas, and what's
written on the shelter and who built that shelter if

(50:39):
you really care about your people, what this project does,
what Zelenski does, what the Central Signal does. In Ukraine,
they toss away everything that they don't like. Yet talking
about Ukrainians that we are good shepherds of property. If
we were good shepherds of property, we would have owned
russianly Whig history, all their political events, all of their figures.

(51:06):
We would be taken and absorbing everything. Because in Bavaria
there is a beautiful castle that was built by Matt King,
who was a great builder of his time, and there's
a pantheon of great Germans there. Do you think who's
there on one of the important places there near Kant

(51:28):
and the like Catherine the second German. They own that
famous Russians are, so they accept it, and we could
have ingested, We could have accepted all that, we could
have owned American sympathies. Yet we go to American media
and we start cursing them that you do not love
us the way we want to, you do not understand us,

(51:49):
and then we demand aid from them. This is God,
give me powers. I'm trying to not use the cusswords here.
This is worse than madness. This is complete deterioration of
mental acuity, and people do not understand what they're doing.
They're praising it. It's same as the soldier on a

(52:12):
position facing Russian attack. He takes the bullets out. Now,
don't like the bullets, don't like machine launcher, don't like grenade.
It's made in Soviet Union. Take the helmet off, it's
made in the United States. Take the bullet, profess because
it's from Hungary. And then undressed to his underwear. He's
defending his position with bare hands because he doesn't like

(52:33):
the tools. Right, because it's produced on some Republican funded
facilities in America, or Soviet goods or some of the
countries that he doesn't like. You're cursing Republicans, but you're
using the weaponry produced at the generally Republican factories because

(52:54):
most of military industrial complex are rather red in America.
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