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May 18, 2025 69 mins
In today's war diary, Alexander Shelest and Alexey Arestovich discussed the main news on the 1168th day of war:

➤ 00:00 Alexander Shelest: the format and possibilities of the broadcast.
➤ 01:40 On-air poll about the negotiations in Istanbul. Has Zelensky changed his tune?
➤ 05:45 Versions about the negotiations in international diplomacy.
➤ 09:55 The real situation on the battlefield. A mine under peace efforts: the causes of the war have not been addressed.
➤ 11:00 Zelensky's public presentation with the narratives of sanctioned Arestovich. The goal is not to let anyone remember the terms of Istanbul-2022.
➤ 18:00 How to hold an honest Istanbul-2025 and why May 15?
➤ 21:46 What can Putin agree to? When can the war be repeated?
➤ 26:10 Sanctions of European leaders against the Russian Federation. The actions of the Drafting Commission in Kharkov - everything for the front, everything for victory? Voluntary decision of the Ukrainians is to turn off their brains.
➤ 36:07 Who needs Zelensky after the war?
➤ 40:45 Elections are the reason for sanctions against Arestovych and Poroshenko.
➤ 44:22 Russia is ready for a 30-day truce if Ukraine is not supplied with weapons during it.
➤ 47:15 China's position and the signing of agreements with Russia.
➤ 48:18 The state of Ukraine determines the state of the brains of the Ukrainian population. 
➤ 51:15 Rustle: information from a source about the suspension of the investigation into the sale of weapons. Are there people who do not sell out? Today, being smart and not selling out is treason.
➤ 55:50 The war in Ukraine will be repeated until the causes of the conflict are eliminated.
➤ 56:50 Situation at the front is grave. Critical approach to the borders of the Dnipropetrovsk region.
➤ 01:00:42 Toretsk — the counteroffensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is defeated.
➤ 01:03:46 Russian offensive cannot be stopped today. Ukraine needs direct negotiations with the Russian Federation, without intermediaries. Signs of immaturity and dependence of Ukraine.

Olexiy Arestovych (Kiev): Advisor to the Office of Ukraine President : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksiy_Arestovych
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Alexander Shelest - Ukranian journalist.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah, greetings to our guests, visitors, subscribers to our channel.
Thank you so much for following our live streams on
Alexander Challist channel and alex Aristovic's channel. Thank you all
for knowing what to do. How do you change the
settings of the country if you are in Ukraine and

(00:25):
how do you stay connected and then formed? Alexei Nikolavitch,
good evening, Good evening. You know, we have a ton
of questions to you, a lot of events I think
either historic or at least many people pretend that they
are historic. I will take traditionally thirty seconds while everybody

(00:46):
is still coming online and connecting to our stream on
that situation that we are living through today, basically live
on air. I think it's only alex Aristovich who can
comment on this. Viewers, please keep your patience. I want
to mention that those two QR codes that you see

(01:06):
on the screens, don't forget to use them to post
your questions to us. Thank you for your superstickers, super
chat options and thanks that you send if you have
this option enabled. We have a lot of questions for
the final part of the show, those people who ask
them in advance, and then we'll go to the closed

(01:28):
group and chat at the end to discuss whatever else
you guys are bringing to ask. We will have a good,
lively discussion today and this will be in the final
part of the program. But I suggest we begin traditionally
with appalling today's Paul sounds like this, Please finish the question,

(01:50):
finish the sentence. Negotiations in Stambul are and here the
options a fig leaf of Zelenski's capitulation, last chance. It'll
be worse going from here. Another option is prolonging Stumbulto
is a bluff, and option number four it's inevitability. Trump

(02:12):
will not forgive those who will break these negotiations, so
these are different options. Trump has hinted that he is
flying to Saudi Arabia and he might swing by stambul
if he needs to. Zerenski says he is flying to
and his office posted a message that we are for peace,
we always have been, and if Trump will visit us there,

(02:33):
that will be fantastic. What this game is about, Alexay, Well,
let's start like this. First of all, it's not the
game that entertains me, which most people fail to understand
in its entirety, and they breed different versions of way

(02:55):
he's to understand it. I'm looking at different dealers of
public opinion and how they present it now, and I
see some of them, and I'm not naming specifics, but
some of them. For three years, we're expressing that we're
not giving any gram, any inch of our talitory to

(03:20):
damned Russia. We will all die defending it. This is
a war till the end. We will mobilize women, cats, ants, dogs,
grass and earthworms and will fight until we all die,
and let us all die, but we will never yield.
And then there is that magic click and the Supreme

(03:43):
z announces that the negotiations need to be respected. And
until now we need to say that he was a
staunch opponent of these negotiations up until now. He still
has not canceled his order forbidding negotiations with Putin. Yet
he rushes to stumble himself and upon his clique. All

(04:08):
of these media heads start telling stories about how our
wise leader had beaten Putin's politics, how he's uniting Trump
with Trump. And wait a second, you just cursed Trump yesterday.
Last day he was called impotent American. Nobody who knows

(04:30):
who thinks he knows, but apparently today he is amazing
and they want to do things with Trump. They will
prevail over Putin with Trump, and Trump is the sun
on the horizon on the sky. You know, the fun
part I could only imagine. And just this is a
you know, an interesting scenario for you. If Putin ands

(04:53):
against he actually do find something to agree upon. I
think it's the same apparatus that will be touting that
putting In Zelensky are wise leaders who found a way
to stop this war. You know what, this is also
ridiculous that some people accuse me of changing my views
and flight. I have nowhere been nearly close to the

(05:16):
degree of changing our directions presented recently by our glorious
leader of Ukraine and his cabinet and his talking heads.
Because just a month ago Trump was the most horrible person,
almost on par with Putin, and even last morning he
was still horrible. But today after noon he suddenly the

(05:39):
savior of our nation. And Zelensky and him have always
been together, joined the hip. And you know, I'm connected
to a lot of diplomatic figures, a lot of different channels,
and I'm asking them, fellas, what do you think about
what's going. And I've heard so many interesting theories and
interesting interpretations of what's happening, and some of them do

(06:02):
spill bits and pieces to facebooks and social media, and
these are the ones that are being posted around by
society at large. So let me count some of them.
The most patriotic version says that Russia is dead, it
will die, that they have to tomorrow in cruel sufferings,
and this is the only way for them to survive.

(06:23):
And if Trump and Germany or Europe and Saudi Arabia
will fluctuate some prices of oil, Russia will just fall
apart into three hundred pieces and we'll be able to
pull out our older maps with aspirations of Ukrainian patrols
patrolling Vladivosta, Kabaras and the other townships in the very
east of Russia. So this is version number one. Russia

(06:45):
cannot fight more. It's done economically and militarily, and everything
is already pre arranged, and they're just going to stambul
to sign because Putin has already acknowledged his breakage basically,
and then Representative of China Kim comes up out apparently
saying that the after thirty days cease fire. So now
we're cheering the Ukrainian president and saying that he caught

(07:08):
Putin soul masterfully in his net and of course Putin
will yield and will sign everything in favor of Ukraine
with a full capitulation version. So this is version one.
Second version sounds like this, Oh bullshit. Never mind China,
United States, Putin. They already agreed between themselves that after

(07:30):
Zelenski's performance in the Oval Office and after he fled
to Europe to get European support and touting that he'll
be the ram against Putin and Trump at the same time.
And basically this version says that Zelenski now is in
conditions that if he doesn't go to Stambul, he will

(07:51):
present himself to be against China and Trump. If and
if he goes to Stambul, he will be against Europe,
who sposedly his friends and are against his visit to Euroup.
So he is going to Stumbul, as we know, and
Europe apparently is now concerned he's taking America more important
players than Europe. And these are two major versions. There

(08:15):
are probably seven or eight more that are going into
more obscure things that even indo Pakistan conflict is part
of that bigger play. So I wrote a post in
the social media today that when somebody throws a stick
at the dog, the dog is looking at the stick.
When that stick is being thrown at the lion, the

(08:36):
lion is watching the one who is throwing the stick.
So even if that stick has the stumbull written on it,
the messages do not look at the stick, do not
rush to reacting to all these options and versions. Believe me,
those people who have much more complex access to and

(08:59):
from then most of our viewers, they are failing to
understand the entirety of the picture. They do not see
the whole puzzle. It is unfolding as we speak, and
we do not need to follow the fishing rod pulls

(09:22):
on the worm to see it twiggling. We need to
look at the one who is holding that fishing rod.
Because the amount of screams that we had in Ukraine
while they were cursing put In and at the same
time set praising the ceasefire, This is an interesting turn
of a history where the lack of information presents a

(09:46):
wonderful opportunity for a lot of conspiology and different conspiracy theories.
But Bullpark. Everybody wants this war to be over with.
If you do make a couple of steps backwards away
from this situation to see from the bird's eye view,
we can see that Putin has not achieved much in Ukraine.

(10:07):
I'm not even talking about Ukraine itself, or also not
in a good position. Trump is also in a confused state.
And it's only seasan Pin's laughter that you can hear
coming from somewhere in the east. Core matters, the reasons
for this war are not removed, are not solved, They're
not even touched upon. Temporary ceasefire for a year, for

(10:27):
two years, one hundred percent means a new war until
these core reasons are resolved. So a question that I
would post here do we want to work with the
reasons of this war or do we want to celebrate
that we can do a ceasfire. That's why I have
no illusions. And of course it's nice when nobody shoots
for thirty days, but let's see if they actually hold

(10:50):
that truth. But since we have not touched the real
reasons for this war, this is not peace. This is
a landmine under peace that will likely explore again in
not so distant future. You know, Alexi, everything looks like
some magic behind the scenes game. Everything started with our

(11:15):
how do you call them friendly trains and receptions and anecdotes.
Oh yeah, we did hide the flower that we wanted
to use to bake the pancakes for dignitaries, and unfortunately,
right the journalists are taking pictures and talking about that.

(11:37):
Alexe is referring here to the flower that supposedly was
made of grain that grew on the fields that were
mined with land mines and shelled with Russian mortars, that
was used to bake something for Prince Harry when he
was visiting. So that's what it started with. And then
there was Putin's ultimatum, to which Lensky responded overnight from

(12:02):
Saturday to Sunday. The answer was direct negotiations. Until then,
there was no offer for direct negotiations from presidential office.
Everybody was appealing to partners and intermediaries. Even Trump was
looking for intermediary party. There was no idea of direct

(12:23):
negotiations in the media sphere outside of a couple outlets
that you're very well informed about. So essentially, if you
did not watch the media, put In suggested that he
is for peace for ceasefire. Zelenski suddenly jumps on a bandwagon.
Something is happening with him, and he says, sure, let's

(12:44):
do direct negotiations and put an end to this. Let
me bring up something. I'm googling that statement that his
office made. Here's his publications, actually his what's happen first,
he is sorry telegram, so here he has just heard

(13:06):
the words of President Trump. I supported him in his
idea with an idea of complete and utter ceasefire. I
supported him with an idea of direct negotiations with Putin.
Still figuring out why is he involving Trump in this?
And of course he's saying that we would want Trump
to be present in this meeting with us in Turkey,

(13:29):
and we'll talk with earther one as well. And here
is one more statement from Zelensky. He is again highlighting
that unfortunately the world has not heard the clear answer
from Russia whether they will participate in these negotiations. And
as for a lot of suggestions for Russia to cease fire,

(13:51):
they remained quiet for the whole day. Very surprising lull
and guietude coming from Kremlin. But Russia still has finish
this war and the final paragraph here says that Ukraine
did not want this war. For a second, we with
partners do care together about security and safety of our

(14:12):
countries and we're preparing the reliable platform for the future
piece so together together with partners. Trump looking at these
statements is chained with very impressive chains to Zenansk and
his behavior. Yrmachaels, who supported this statement in his socials,

(14:33):
saying that look, Zenanskan Trump are together. It does remind
me of a circus. However, why is that all these
strong leaders who supposedly visited Kiev last weekend and now
they're presenting ultimatums one after the other, Germans, French, mccron, merits,
they were also on the phone with Trump and even

(14:56):
Putin at night came out with his statement. Some people
are guessing probably after conversation with Trump or maybe with
Sijinpin he did talk to somebody. Do you think, Alexi
that this is all just a performance, But why to
disrupt the negotiations? Well, look, Alexander, we do not know

(15:17):
whether they will interrupt or sign the accords. All these
conversations that we see in Ukraine now the actually matching
word for word my narratives in your streams and Nikolai
Feldmann streams for the last year or so. And one
of the things we're talking about that we need direct

(15:40):
negotiations right now. However, Shia Lastan Daarastovitch have no right
to suggest these ideas, so we are sanctioned. But Zelensky
has this right, So we are sanctioned. We're off the
media's here in Ukraine to some degree, and he's the
only one talking about it. But the only reason for

(16:01):
this tremendous push with all his media and all his
office and other media channels is to draw attention away
from spring of twenty two, because somebody can post a question,
why did you fight for three years? Somebody will post
this question. If stumble negotiations will succeed in twenty twenty five,
somebody will ask this question, why did you fight for

(16:23):
the next three years after twenty two? You had a
better situation back in twenty two than now in twenty five.
And if twenty five will fallow through, then twenty six
or twenty seven will be even worse. And again this
question will come back to haunt us. Why didn't did
we not sign anything back in twenty two? And Office
of the President will likely continue distracting people's attention because

(16:46):
from these questions, from these hard questions, because they have
no answer why did they continue this war, whether they
were going for something specific, we just wanted to get
rid of tens of thousands of people and trying to
deplete our country. If you notice, back in twenty two,
not a single energy producing station had suffered or distribution

(17:08):
station had suffered significantly. Not a single city was taken
except for her Son or township, so Mariopol was still
being consumed, was not done with yet. So this is
a distraction, This is information campaigned to distract from these questions,
and main question among them is why did you not

(17:29):
sign it back in twenty two? Why did you sacrifice
tens and hundreds of thousands of lives? Do you understand, Violexy?
I understand how Alexander, because Biden and Johnson explained to
Zelansky that a little more and will split Russia between
ourselves and you guys will be kings and you will
be cutting chunks off the Kremlin wool. But it did

(17:50):
not quite work out like this, and that's it. Therefore,
the real stambul the honest one, would be together all
the widows, all the relatives of the dead soldiers, and
explain to them why Zelensky is appealing to the nation

(18:11):
to sign something in twenty twenty five when everything of
that caliber was already done in April of twenty two,
when Arachaimia signed the complex, the complex set of documents,
and on the ninth of April they were supposed to
sign Zelensky and put on these accords that famous phrase
about two to three weeks. Do you know where it
comes from? Because I knew I was part of this delegation.

(18:35):
I knew that this was the date for signing. Do
you know why putting put the May fifteenth for signing
for rebuilding restarting that conversation in Stambul, because it was
May fifteenth, when back in twenty two, when this commission
stopped working last time. He's basically picking it up where

(18:56):
it was left from that same point on. To highlight
to everybody that if any agreements will be achieved in Stanbul,
will be achieved with the same dates, only with the
difference of three years. And they will ask this question
what for. I'm sure in Ukraine they'll be trying to
distract that as loud as they can so that nobody

(19:20):
would seriously ask this question, why did we fight for
three more years? What did these years give us? I
would answer nothing, complete another senselessness of these years, that
we waved our flags and ran forward in the front,
only adding more flags and graves in a graveyard. This

(19:41):
is the main question that Zelanski's afraid to answer. That's
why there'll be a lot of bravada. There'll be a
lot of stories about how we were cunning and one
over Putin, and we prevailed over China and their aspirations.
All that just to ask the question why did we
waste so many resources over these three years? Very logically, Alexei,

(20:04):
But do you think it'll help depends who will be
asking the question. If Riistovich will present it, people will
probably try to talk about it in the hash tones.
But if Putin comes out and post this question, it
will be much more difficult for Zelensky and he's talking
heads to navigate around it. That's why they will have
to start reminding everybody that Putin is a scoundrel and

(20:26):
a horrible figure and you should not be even listening
to him. And also forget Russian language because it brings
more trouble like real patriot forget one hundred birds a day.
The problem is the situation will not be remedied this
way because if you sign a treaty with Putin, you
cannot be calling him a scumbag day after day. And

(20:50):
if you're going to Stumbul to create another scene like
in the Oval Office, and you're not implying that you'll
do a peace agreement, that means then you are dual
faced entity and you're not. All your words are just
for nothing. You're not for peace because you hut out
all these agreements and then you present a horrible behavior

(21:14):
just like in the Oval Office, and that doesn't promote
mutual understanding and moving towards the end of this war,
because if he will be as hysterical with Putin as
he was with Trump, he will not achieve anything. Now
a question why is he calling put into Stambul because
he knows that Putin will not fly, he knows that
he will avoid that, or because he wants more Hamsters

(21:39):
and Ukraine to support his seen and denunciation of negotiations. Okay,
alex see, if we turn on and turn off all
this masmerizing, all these hand gestures, when your attention is
being attracted to something and meantime they're taking away the
biggest bill out of your pocket. Then the logic suggests

(22:03):
us that Putin that pause, that Russia is being pregnant
with that. Putin may hold this pause for a while,
and then somebody, not him personally, may come out and say, well,
it's not important. Pisco of today was trying to say
that nobody talks to Russia in a language of ultimatums.
I thought it was similar to that message that you

(22:23):
just talked about. Do you think Putin will agree to
negotiations or do you think it's too much. Look, Alexander,
you need to understand, and not you personally, but our listeners.
Putin may agree. He may agree to a thirty day
a thirty day truce, then make it sixty day or
ninety day or in twenty days, and then maybe seize

(22:45):
this war for a while completely. And now the main
thing is not the reasons driving him, whether it is
agreement with China, agreement between China and states against Europe,
or something else. This is an important What important is
that reasons that brought to this war, they are not removed,

(23:06):
they're not even talked about. And that means that the
war will repeat again one hundred percent seven twenty eight,
twenty twenty nine, and most likely will be closer, so
closer to twenty twenty seven. I would give Russia a
couple of years to rebuild their economy, to reform their
armed forces, and to start certain social political processes inside

(23:32):
Ukraine and help them, for example, help leave those kgredients
who want to leave. If we have military heroes who
are fighting on the front telling in the interviews that
the moment the war is over, I'm leaving the country
and taking my family with me, you can only imagine
the condition this country will be in in twenty twenty seven,

(23:53):
when a lot of people would have already fled even
more than we have now, and Russia will likely pump
even more money to their military complex. And for these
two years between now and twenty twenty seven will be
told that our economy is so much better, that Russian
economy is breaking apart. I keep telling these people over
and over again when I have to talk to them. Look,

(24:14):
Iran is under sanctions for half a century already, and
serious sanctions, not like the ones slept in Russia. Iran
is leading three regional wars under sanctions. Even Trump had
to consider the Huthis in his military politics. There continuous uprising,

(24:40):
continuous things in Palestine. You think Russia is less strong
than Iran. Recently, I saw an interesting collage from the
state moments of our politicians starting in twenty nineteen on

(25:03):
the way to twenty twenty two, where all these prosecutors
attorney generals like Luzenka, they were talking about putting his
begging for negotiations, putting his asking for negotiations. He's crawling
on his knees asking for negotiations. So they were screaming
all that when Putin wanted to agree in a normal fashion,

(25:25):
and they ended up having to fight the war because
they were diminishing the value of negotiations. And I don't
see a strategic change because anti project that a big
chunk of Ukraine is living and is not changing the war.
And all these things were observing this is the consequence
of living in a certain project. It's not that the
person is sitting in a certain project and growing to

(25:46):
a certain mindset or understanding his worldview is formed by
this project. In order to change your worldview, you need
to pick another project for Ukraine and for your life,
and this is granted a very difficult fat not only
for the best among us, but even among those it's difficult.

(26:06):
You were surprised and you were cheerful to European leaders.
Let's look at the sanctions they suggest. Let's ask our
viewers what sanctions do European leaders suggest? Nothing. They suggest
nineteenth package of sanctions with some additional tightness, but it
doesn't really present any new changes compared to twenty twenty two. Meanwhile, situation,

(26:29):
even on the battlefront I'm not even talking about political
has changed dramatically. So if our allies really wanted to
help Ukraine, they would have suggested something drastically different that
matches the current situation, with the situation on the front
and in our military. In the military studies, there is
a definition of actions matching the situational challenge. A lot

(26:57):
of our actions do not match because you has what
has arms in the EU. No, they're starting their military
industrial complex, but they'll probably not have anything to share
with us for another four years. Meantime, they already announced
the purchase of Russian natural gas and oil. Friends in
Great Britain are not buying that, but Tusk and Merds

(27:19):
they allow themselves to be buying Russian natural resources and
to let Russia fill the coffers with money that they
use against Ukraine. Just Fyi UAVs and ballistic missiles falling
on your heads. They are sponsored with money paid by
European countries to Russia. Look Ukrainians, a certain part of

(27:44):
Ukrainians who are proponents of the Centi project that has
been making life difficult for Ukraine. They, for example, can
see the video of the Drafting Commission hitting some draft
tee that they managed to catch on the street, and
they're looking watching that and saying, oh, it should be
done this way, because this is all for the victory,

(28:05):
And the Drafting Commission also publicly acknowledges that this is
a very cruel decision. If you're right, you're not looking
around to check if you can hit, you can maybe
if you're too agitated you can hit. But this action
was definitely cold blood, done in cold blood. The person
looked around, verified that nobody can trace him, and then

(28:28):
hit this poor draftee that he caught. And then we
have guys coming to Ukraine who are sponsoring Russian military
budget to a much larger degree than the aid. They
are providing to Ukraine, even if you include military information

(28:48):
and such. But they're saying the Europe is with you,
and we're eager to say that Europe is with us.
But we are ready to omit all the incongruences. Our
memory is like the guppy fish, short, without ability to
connect two simple things together. Two months ago, the head
of German military intel comes out and says, oh, it's

(29:11):
good for us that Ukraine fights. It gives us more
time to prepare and to restart our military industrial complex. Ukrainians,
Are you okay with fighting for them while they're preparing
and figuring out how to solve their own risks? Because
they continue meantime while you're thinking about it, They continue
paying Russia for natural gas and oil, and we are

(29:33):
shielding them with our bodies and our blood. And these
ultimatums of Germany that will slap some sanctions in Russia
in ten hours? What sanctions? What can you do? Germany?
Britain recently sanctioned one hundred of Russian trade vessels of
the Gray Fleet. I have a question, why not all

(29:54):
four hundred that are known, because India said that please
don't do it. Which vessels are being sanctioned. Where are
they going to what are they carrying? This deserves investigation
because some of these vessels bring oil to India and
Britain cannot attack India under no circumstances. They will politically

(30:17):
or otherwise. And you don't need to be an academician
of some extreme level. You just need to be honest
with yourself. And you need to understand those Ukrainians who
follow this anti project. They decided to not use conscience
and honor. You can pee in their eyes as in

(30:38):
that proverb, and they would say it's a god's reign.
Government people the Drafting Commission is beating up a draftee.
They caught on the street people touting this project. They're
saying that it's okay, it's fine. He was refusing, so
they had to use force. This is utter violation of
human rights. Zelenski, without canceling his on order to not

(31:00):
negotiate with Pucin, is going to stambul to present as
if he's going to negotiate. Even that is coming unnoticed.
So Europeans are purchasing spare parts from their companies and

(31:20):
sending them to Russia. Because all these ballistics and uvs
that are attacking us. They are built with French, British
and German components and sponsored by European money. Yet we're
more giddy and happy about them, their leaders coming to
the streets of Kievan taking pictures rather than addressing these
core matters. You need to understand that no torture can

(31:45):
bring a person to the state that you, guys, you fellows,
proponents of the limited project for Ukraine, had volunteerily placed
yourself into. This was your decision, a volunteer decision to
turn off your brains. And of course, in parallel with that,
what Doriv is saying, he's saying that telegram is the

(32:10):
means to destroy Ukrainian nation and Ukrainian country. But rushianpagn
telegram also appealed to cancel telegram. So our politicians are
not much better than Zelenskia. And all these attempts of
absolutely blatantly Russian speaking Ukrainian who's trying to censor Ukrainian

(32:32):
interwebs for a Russian language so they would not be
in a Russian And that recent scandal with al Him
the blogger, right, yeah, like I say, she left, she
spat in their direction and said go off yourself. And
left the country. So that's what I'm saying. You politicians
are destroying the country. You're destroying the fabric of Ukrainian

(32:54):
society with your position that you've taken these talking heads
that are following the line of the party and saying
something in the morning, something in the mid day, something
in the evening, according to Zananski's office, without even any
reference or different deference to real events. You refuse to
explain what do you hope for. You hope that in
twenty twenty seven that somehow you'll become stronger and you'll

(33:15):
be able to dismantle Putin's legions all the way to Siberia,
and you'll have some thankful people throwing their clothes under
the tracks of Ukrainian tanks in delight. You've lost this war,
and you'll lose the next war in a much more
rapid fashion, with perhaps even losing Kiev or some and

(33:36):
some left Bank. It would not be on the Putin,
It'll be on you. Putin will just highlight that. And
today you Di Ramayenka published some of the screens of
Ukrainian's talking two Poles, and they're saying that Poles are
very aggressive, that they're pulling out Ukrainian flags from their

(33:57):
front yards and they're screaming, how can you behave like
this towards the refugees, without even understanding that polls are
only using maybe one tenth of actions against these people
compared to the one hundred percent that Ukraine is using

(34:19):
against any dissidents in the country. Remember that video last
week when police and military are suggesting for a woman
to evacuate from Pokov and the woman is telling them,
I cannot leave to the western Ukraine because I'll be
hated for my Russian language. And you can look in
the commentary half of the post there, no, we're not hating.

(34:42):
Everything is fine, and the other half in the commentary
is saying, oh, no, she doesn't need hating. We just
need to offer her because she's waiting for Putin's kingdom
to arrive, and meantime also posting that the house divided
inside is not going to stand, it'll fail, or that
the other story when Apricot Publishing House burnt a series

(35:07):
of children's books published in Ukrainian because there were some
wrong commentary under them, and only later found out that
a competitor of the author of these books was the
one who published those accusatory comments in the social media
about these books, and they just discovered that post factor
after they burned the printing. Run do you understand what

(35:31):
you're doing with your own country? Follow Ukrainians? How are
you going to it? Remember? How what's his name? The
Argo mythology? How your son managed to prevail over the

(35:52):
soldiers that grew from the teeth of the dragon when
Medea gave him a note to throw a stone amidst
them and they started fighting each other. Same thing with
our media channels in Ukraine and people in Ukraine. They're
throwing these stones amongst themselves and fighting with each other.
What do they hope for? I like, say, let's maybe

(36:13):
deep dive and try to figure out, how do you
see if Zelansky has any plan? I understand that the
most popular answer is the absence of any plan. And okay,
we can acknowledge that that's one of the plans of
no plan. The viewers can definitely see that in his

(36:36):
behavior too. But I would think it's probably not a
random series of events. I think you just highlighted a
very important scenario line for the future events, even if
hypothetically putin whether it be or maybe somebody else who

(36:56):
will come to these negotiations. Trump may not even get there,
and Zeganski will be there and you cannot disrupt them,
et cetera. And somehow there is some agreement struck in
these negotiations for a month, half a year, a year,
two years. As far as I can understand, Zelensky still
wants to stay in power all the time. Therefore, the

(37:19):
question of project for Ukraine is principally important because it
appears that Stumbul two Zelensky will have to execute, right, Alexandra, Look,
Stumbul two is like roughly Minsk four. What happened with
previous minsks Minsk accords? They were prolonged, they were pushed

(37:43):
aside to as much degree as possible. What happened when
the war started? They said, well, we just didn't get
to them. So if you think that if somebody thinks
that Putin will eat that they're wrong. The fact that
he started this war indicates that he does not want
to buy anything any promises from Ukraine, only the actual things.

(38:07):
And we should ask for ourselves another question, what is
the life finish forward? Zlanski? Do you remember the movie
in Zada, the Soviet era movie there was one very
smart thought going as the motive through this movie, that
the violin player is not needed. Same question here, who

(38:30):
needs Lansky after this war? Now he's piloting that plane
called Ukraine. Okay, the war is over, the plane is
on the ground. Who needs him? What for? And this
is not my comparison. But there was a fellow named
Sikorski who was the head of Polish government in exile,
and when he became unimportant and needed, something happened with

(38:52):
his plane, with all of his cohorts. This is the
destiny of Zidanski. I think do you think he understands that?
I think he does. What is he going to do?
He'll try to protract the process to as much as
he can. Perhaps something changes. He's holding with a death
grip on his throne and the only question he's interested in.

(39:12):
If I'm opening that secret to our viewers, I hope
I'm not. But he's only interested in his own future.
He doesn't care how many more Ukrainians die, who else
is going to be beat up by the drafting Commission?
How much more Friends and Germany and other countries will
be buying from Russia? And why don't you ask them
when they don't give you enough military supply, and one

(39:36):
cannot say that it is of no interest to Landski,
of course, it is maybe item number one hundred and fifty.
So my question then goes to the viewers, to our
nation at large, where are your interests? Because he will
be holding on his chair, they will live and drop
the plank down to eighteen years old to serve in

(39:57):
the military. On the war. They'll probably start drafting women.
But if the war is over, there'll be no explanations
that he can present why he is still in power
and why the elections are not being conducted. So I
think he's starting to think about elections, and therefore he
slaps the sanctions against me, against Parashenka and Kchko. So
Zelenski is building, according to politology, his own dictatorship, personal dictatorship.

(40:21):
Do you want to live in dictatorship? Some people are
saying now in social media that, well, a little bit
of dictatorship is okay because it is war. Okay, the
war is over. Who promised you that dictatorship will be away?
Some of you are saying that Estovich talked too much. Parashenko,
on the other hand, is talking completely patriotic, he still

(40:44):
gets sanctions from Zelenski. I'm saying things as they are
in a very harsh manner, and I'm sanctioned too, So
rhetoric doesn't matter. The logic of these sanctions is different,
not what you're saying. Rhetoric is very simple. It's about elections.
But he is building his own personal dictatorship looking forward

(41:06):
after this war, trying to bid on the elections where
he has no competition. By the way, News for your entertainment,
Central Election Committee of Ukraine answered the Parashanka's question that
sanctions do not forbid a person from running on the

(41:27):
ballot for presidential position. This is an answer to those
who said, oh, if there are sanctions there as those,
she shall not be able to run for presidency. I
will I can. The only fact is that being under
sanctions it does limit your motion and your options to
run your campaign, and that basically shows that Zelenski is
trying to continue his leadership of a country even when

(41:50):
the war is over. So I am sincerely curious what
fellow Ukrainians are going to do with this dictatorship after
the war is over. Re you going to the streets,
are going to that we do not like dictatorships. Will
you be bringing some slogans against the Lanscan his government,
or you've been pushed so much under the carpet in

(42:12):
the last few years that you will just comply quietly,
or you'll half and puff in the kitchens and never
come out because apparently we can wipe our buds with
our constitution, but after the war we'll come back and
use it as a proper tool. I'm really curious to
see how that dynamics happens. You understand, you cannot be

(42:35):
pregnant a little bit. Dictatorship is not a construct that
allows that. And we know that even from Roman history,
there was one person who took power during crisis twice
and then returned this power back after the crisis was over.
Yet this fact actually remains unique because and that's why

(42:57):
I remember this person, because him managed to take power
and then give it back up. So if those people
who are saying that it's only for the war times
and after the war will be proper democratic, I'm really
curious to see how democratic will be. I frankly want
to bring it to our citizens that sanctions in Ukraine

(43:18):
are different from sanctions in Russia. In Russia, they write
it's rubber stamping, but they still use their courts, their
court system to sanction something. In Ukraine, it's done by
presidential degree or word of mouth, and you all support that.
How do you think you'll defend yourself from out of
court persecution yourself and your friends after this war is over?

(43:41):
You think all the mechanisms will magically disappear, the walls
will fall, and all those who are captured and detained
under Zenansky will be free and out. Zenanski is building
this dictatorship forever. You are whistling in support of him
right now, and then you'll be asking for whom the
bell holls? Well, you know, like say they keep saying that, look,

(44:05):
Yokovich was an interesting figure, and we toppled him. We
Ukrainians can gather might done at any moment and replace
the president. That's a famous narrative. Oh, I'll be curious,
Alexander to see how they topple Zedansky with that technology.
All right, there is no reaction from Russian for this offer.

(44:26):
Yet the only thing that happened is Mariya Azaharava, a spokesperson,
came out and said that the same countries who acknowledged
that they used Minsk agreements to solve things in favor
of Ukraine. Today are trying to achieve thirty day truths
to rebuild the capabilitary capabilities of the Kievan regime, and

(44:47):
they want thirty days off to give them a breather
to restore military potential and continue military contest events contestation
with Russia. And yet we are yet to hear the
statement of the main Russian mister Putin. I think from
some point the statement is actually going in the vector

(45:10):
of the answer. Now, right, Alexander, Their statements are very simple.
We are ready for thirty day truce if Ukraine will
not be getting arms supplies during these thirty days. They
had this demand and they never removed it. Now, why
would they denounce this suggestion now because representative of China
came out and said, you need to agree. Oh yeah,

(45:31):
it was actually just dispelled. That didn't happen. Okay, understood,
even if it was true. Okay, let's imagine even Trump
flew to stumble, what can Trump do to Putin? Does
he have any instruments? I would say he doesn't. Sanctions.

(45:52):
Iran is under sanctions. Trump had difficult times dealing even
with Huti's who are just proxies of Iran in slippers
in desert And that's it. And then how do you
build the future of Ukraine? Looking over your shoulder, Whether

(46:17):
Trump likes you or China likes you, you really want
to live in a country like that? What about your independence?
If it's Trump and Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs that
are determining things. Well, regarding Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
somebody listened to that and said that meant something else, right, Okay,
but imagine, imagine this is an imaginary situation scenario. A

(46:41):
smart person would understand that this is utter nonsense because
just recently Sea and Putin made a statement together that
highlights the need to remove the reasons for the original war,
and what can understand the position of China. Look and this,
let's see, we unfortunately have no analysts in the Ukraine
rate right, we have no analysts. We only have the loudspeakers,

(47:05):
and they are being controlled from the office of the president.
You know, there was a huge stack of documents signed
between Russia and China during the World War II celebrations.
Many people didn't look deeper. They just said, oh, they
signed something, But if you again take a couple steps back.

(47:29):
Russia and China are signing something very serious. It's not
just the power of Siberia to some occluded pipe for
oil going from Russia to China. It's not that they
achieved a certain deal which apparently is satisfactory to both
of them. And you remember the movie The Theory of
Three Bodies. These two bodies are joining against the third one.

(47:53):
They have bridges, we have abysses and ravines between us,
and yet we're sending our leader to scream Putin. I
wait for you in Stanmbul. You know, Alexander, I'll repeat
one more thought in today's stream. I could care less
about Sea, Putin, Trump and the rest. What I'm interested

(48:14):
in is the condition of brains of our compatriots for
one simple reason, because this is the factor that determines
our future. See Trump and Puttin. This is just a reaction.
This is a consequence of this. This is downstream who
allowed their brains to be so badly deformed. Yeah, we
do have, of course, the office of the president. We

(48:36):
have the mass hypnosis and all that stuff happening in
the official media. But how come I'm not influenced by that?
And you, Alexander, are not under its influence. I have
an answer, Alexi Okay, According to the famous bard Vsotsky,
you're reading right books and when you were little exactly so,
we did not want to be affected. Why and how

(48:59):
it affects the masses of people. I understand it's difficult
for people to resist that in mass. But when people
responsible for forming this signal, all these dealers of public opinion,
who are supposedly more trained and can understand how these
influences work, yet they're like prostitutes, change their opinion and

(49:22):
they enter a president's office with their pants down, back forward,
slightly bent. So when you have sold your conscience to
the power to money, what tells me? What does it
tell me about your future? Because these people voluntarily sold

(49:43):
everything because they're afraid that they'll be drafted and sent
on the Pokrovsk, because they wanted to get their forty
thousand dollars a month, because they were afraid for their
relatives and their business, because Zansky's government and his coronis

(50:04):
might affect you. We saw how you sold yourself on
after another, and how many of you ran forward when
Zedansky's office hasn't even said anything. You already are jumping,
trampling your honor, brain's faith. And as Christ said, I'm

(50:25):
kind of formulating here, not the exact quote. Woe not
only to the ones who succumbed to temptation, but more
woe to the ones through whom this temptation was brought.
And how much our intellectual layer, or remains of our
intellectual layer in Ukraine, how quickly they sold their souls

(50:48):
is very telling. This is the lesson of this war.
This is the main reason why this war occurred. Why
is it going the way it is going, and how
much which a consequence it will be for all of
us when this war will be over with, when there'll
be a period between the wars and the next war
will start. Alexai, I did not know. I was doubting

(51:11):
whether I should read it aloud to you. But I'll read.
We will talk about the front, and there are a
couple more questions I wanted to bring to you in
the first hour. But this is indeed the main thought.
I had my doubts. But after what you just said,
I am not doubting anymore. There is a story people

(51:34):
are they're writing some communications. We can see you understand.
There are different channels that they used to tell stories
and me as a journalist who tried to find the
source of that story. So from the source I received

(51:56):
a certain details a person I'm not naming names, I'm
not naming rank, but a certain person who holds an
official position, and he's saying that. For several months, we've

(52:19):
been investigating a case about the trade in arms with
one of the ninety third Brigade units. We conducted all
the proper operations, we figured out the routes. We took
one of the couriers so called with the javelin. The

(52:41):
courier so you'd understand, this is the lowest in this chain.
His rank is junior sergeant and he's interrogated. They got
him with a javelin that was even presented in the
official Ukraine news. That guy who is telling stories like that,

(53:05):
he's presenting that. So this material supposedly hits the right channels.
And then in the middle of last month we got
an order from the head of security service of Niblopetrov's region,

(53:26):
which we complied to. We sent materials to him. A
couple of weeks past we got an order to stop
all investigations and the one detained, was ordered to be released,
and supposedly he went to the front again. As for
the other participants of this chain and the investigations, so
you'd understand, did achieve certain high rank officials incidence administration.

(53:48):
And when this investigative committee tried to understand what happened
with this chain, they got an answer, do not dig
in this direction, otherwise one hundred and eleventh Article may
be your punishment. So the author of this material says
that I was always a patriot. I cannot let it

(54:10):
be mum. I want this information to be public. And
I'm almost sure that all the people who were involved
in this trade in arms had somehow come to resolution
with the general in this district, and some of them

(54:31):
were moved to other districts, and the general also changed
his position. But I don't know more details. I just
know that some people were moved in their regions, but
they were not investigated, they were not court martialed, and
they were not punished. Alex say, are the people who
do not sell their souls? Of course they are, but

(54:53):
as a rule they are facing Article one to eleven
treason to the country because if you' not follow these
corrupt schemes. You are essentially a traitor to this regime.
And this is what weird inversion we're facing today. Being
smart and being noble, and being truthful and being honorable

(55:17):
in Ukraine is treason today. Having your conscience is treason.
Do you think Ukrainians have a chance, Alexei. I am
becoming more and more skeptical about it. All right, we

(55:46):
have another news about Minister of Foreign Affairs Fidan and
Lavrov talking to each other on the phone diplomatically discussing
the efforts about peacemaking initiative in Turkey. This is live
commented by Turkey, so we're tracing. Oh yeah, Alexander, the

(56:06):
meeting will likely happen. I'm just concerned to a degree
that it'll be effective. It's just that, even if they
manage to sign something, this is just whitewashed coffins. Looks
nice on the outside, horrible on the inside. If we're
not addressing the reasons of this war, all that is
like trying to treat a dead body. Even if we

(56:29):
cease five for four hundred and fifty days, the war
will then repeat itself until the reasons are removed and resolved.
Alexeynik Levitch. Another important element, I would say, of our
meetings and discussions and generally an important element is the
situation on the front and what is happening there today.

(56:51):
Among the top news. We talked about that a week ago.
But if we look at the front, according to deep
state maps and messages from Russian Federation and our very
limited communication from General Command, situation is pretty heavy. There

(57:13):
are basically hundreds of yards five hundred six hundred yards
left between Russian troops and new Papetrovski District. Drones are flying,
of course way further. But here is that border, and
that is of a concern too many people. Spanovko Dashina

(57:37):
Katlaovka that was reported today by Ministry of Defense of
Russian Federation was taken, was occupied. Let's say, if it
is all right with you, let's start with this point
in the front, and basically this is getting to the

(57:59):
border with Daniels Krigeon in one place, which is effectively announced,
which is military goal of the special military operation, and
his personal why do you think he succeeded in getting there? Finally,
I think, Alexander, it's for a reason that they order

(58:23):
beats class Russian leadership and armed forces are undertaking systemic
efforts that we are not, and with all our ability
to fight and to defend, they systemically pull on this
rope and slowly but surely taking pieces, and with a

(58:45):
couple more years of this warfare, they might even take Baldava.
You know, however much people are jumping about Javelin and Stambul,
situation has not changed for the last couple of years. Basically,
they're moving the front line slowly but unfortunately surely to
the left, with huge losses. And they are grinding through

(59:09):
our defense forces and birthing social political processes inside Ukraine
that actually add to our ultimate demise, for example, mistrust
to the government system that we have, mistrust in its
ability to propose something adequate and to solve matters on

(59:31):
the front. Look, the country that failed to solve the
question of building strategic fortifications has no rights to pretend
to any win in this war, to aspire for any
win in this war. The country that fulfilled the military
order only for forty five percent versus what was budgeted,

(59:55):
it's about nothing. They think that calling put into Stambul
is the same as fulfilling the federal military order program.
Have you heard anything about attempts to try to investigate
why in the country in war where such orders should
be implemented and completed one hundred and twenty percent. But

(01:00:17):
this is not fulfilled even by half, right, Alexi. But
we allowed to export the arms in Ukraine, exactly right.
Lasting we need now look if we switched to the
military topic, and I'm showing Taosk here for a reason.

(01:00:37):
Supposedly Ukrainian armed forces are going to some counteroffensive in
a column formation, and they were beaten up and Russian
troops have pushed further, even though for a while Ukrainian
leadership was concealing that operation. But finally they had to
acknowledge the fourth year of this war and apparently our
commanders are still operating in columns and not learning. I

(01:01:07):
will repeat myself here. Sunzu, one of the greatest theoreticians
of military strategy. In the most complex part of military
strategy where it connects with politics, he said, in order
to understand the system, look at how rewards and punishments
are being given in it. In Ukraine, nobody is punished

(01:01:30):
and rewards are very random. The system does not allow
to properly filter for and promote for good country and
does not allow to rotate. All the appointments are done
by the principle I know that person or social media
will support me. Therefore, we do not train, we do

(01:01:50):
not teach, we do not filter out. We do not
have a system. That's the main point. Russia has a system,
very puny, very horrible. I can criticize it for hours,
but they have it and we don't. We have anti system. Therefore,
upon the collision of a very poor system and black

(01:02:13):
thereof or anti system, that poor system will prevail, especially
in the long run. We have successfully completed the first
month and a half of this war. Till about the
second of April. Russians have failed completely, almost completely, and
they have almost completely lost this first phase, and we

(01:02:36):
have lost a long phase. Because the order always beats
class in a long phase. And even the flock of sheep,
if it has a leader, it can achieve something. It
is the flock of heads if they have a head

(01:02:58):
commanding them. But flock of heads with a sheep commanding
them is a flock of sheep, a herd of sheep. Unfortunately,
we do not have a system in Ukraine that can
stop Prussian offensive. And this is not the matter of strategy.
This is the matter of systemic changes of our government,
politics and both internally and externally. Well, excuse me then,

(01:03:22):
but then what they have negotiations Putin is going to
talk about with us, You know, Alex say, you know,
and our viewers know. In my streams and my mono
streams and in general, I always I am a proponent
to stop this war, to stop people from dying, to

(01:03:42):
get to some baseline where we can negotiate and redefine
the projects and redefine our coexistence, some humanitarian connections, some
neighbor mode with Russia. But you have just Alex Aristovich
is saying that it is impossible for Ukraine to stop

(01:04:05):
Russian offensive. Then I'm sorry, but some of these commentators
on the Russian side supposedly a right. It is May twelfth,
and Russia needs just to use more ballistics on Ukraine
to verify that there are no negotiations. Everybody will be

(01:04:26):
screaming about more ballistics and then you can start hunting
missile hunt on the top leadership of Ukraine without concern
of lives of peaceful citizens, and then Russia should just
wrap it up. If there are no perspectives. Yeah, I

(01:04:48):
think we need to wrap it up at a different fashion, Alexander.
We need to conduct direct negotiations without any intermediaries. All
orianteers are being blown away. People do not understand where
the whole situation is rolling to. Let's zoom out a
little and try to explain the basics. Imagine you and

(01:05:10):
I have quarreled, and I am saying I cannot write
Alexander a message directly and acknowledge my fault. I need
some intermediary. We need to meet with him in Stanbul
or wherever, to Jerusalem or Beijing or Washington, to have

(01:05:31):
somebody to help us strike peace. What does it tell
about me that you're guilty? No. Number One, I'm a coward.
I cannot take some blame, acknowledge my mistakes, and ask
for forgiveness. Second, it tells that I am not a

(01:05:52):
standalone subject. I am not responsible for my actions. You know,
the sign of independent person is that he solves his
questions by himself or herself. This is a sign of adult,
of reasonable adult who can solve his or her questions alone.

(01:06:17):
If I'm saying I need intermediaries, I'm not an adult
or and I'm not independent. Just that indicates how diminishing.
The whole situation is. And I'm not even bringing historic
references here that Russia and Ukraine, who have jointly won
twenty six wards against Turkey today are trying to sit

(01:06:40):
down and negotiate instambul and asking for Turkish help to
agree to come to agreement. That whole situation is a
continuous chain of self depreciation. People fail to understand how
deep and low they went. You know what it, I'll

(01:07:01):
tell you an old anecdote. It's Gulag Kalama, very northern
northeastern part of Soviet Union. Some local authority is walking
on his business. Suddenly somebody smashes his over the head
with a plank. He wakes up some time later, finds
his pants down and a tea bag in the snow

(01:07:24):
next to him, and he sits down and starts to think, oh, crap,
I lost all my authority here because that tea bag
is basically a payment for certain kind of services. And
he looks around and he sees a lot of people
around him were very surprised and obviously aware of what's happening.

(01:07:46):
And he gets up and says, well, you know, even
if I don't want to, somebody would jump here and
blow me. And that's my situation the way I see
it with these dealers of public attention, how they behave
in Ukraine being in a most despicable situation having disavowed

(01:08:08):
themselves of brains conscience voluntarily. These talking heads are trying
to use some hype and pretend that it's not them
have been screwed with the pants down, but that they
actually are so fantastic that everybody is chasing them to

(01:08:30):
service them. And that's the situation I see that. I
don't have other words for what we're dealing with here.
People are so used to living in hopeless, black, dark
situation they don't understand that they are in this situation voluntarily,

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd is a thought-provoking, opinionated, and topic-driven journey through the top sports stories of the day.

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