War in Ukraine, Analytics. Day 1271: What are the Consequences of Trump and Zelensky Meeting? Arestovych, Shelest.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, dear viewers, guests and subscribers to my channel. Thank
you very much for following us and expecting our meetings
with Alexeiri Stovic. We are in Perl and so streaming
on his channel. Hello Alexi, good evening to your house.
That's quite an interesting mood that you have today. We're
facing a ton of different events happening around the world.

(00:27):
We can see the falsities and the inclinations of different leaders.
People are watching everything on the screens of their gadgets
and trying to understand what's happening in the White House,
what's happening in Moscow, what is happening in Kiev. Zelenski
came over, he has met with Trump, indicated a couple

(00:47):
photo opportunities for the press, and then they went into
a more closed meeting, and Trump, as the owner of
the house and owner of this process, basically said that
Rush agrees on certain terms. So let's discuss what and
who is going to do, and we can talk more
today about the details of these suggestions. We can talk

(01:10):
more about the way that visitors looked European leaders looked
while visiting Trump's White House, and one thing before we
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So let's start today's stream with a question. Today's question

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is whom is a Lensky is afraid more of Trump?
Put him six and Brits or radicals inside Ukraine. These
are the options. They are not connected to the top
event that will be addressing today. So how would you

(02:17):
answer this question? And lets say, of course, Alexander, he
is mostly scared by the radicals in Ukraine. Trump and
MI six are not too much of a threat for him.
He thinks he has been playing them and he'll play
them again. But radicals in Ukraine, that's definitely a concern.
That's why you can see in the stream of his

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awards that he was giving out and certain appointments. You
can see that he's doing with these radical powers. These
would be the ones who will bring his butt to
the frying pan eventually, sooner or later. All right, guys,
please vote under the stream. We will be looking at
this question a bit later. But it appears that Zelensky

(03:01):
is still somewhat afraid of Trump because he behaved in
the Oval office this time. How do you what impression
did it produce on Neo Alexei Oval Office to zero?
What do you think about Zlansky's outlook, his dress, his
ideas that he brought in Alexander. I could care less

(03:23):
about what he was wearing. I only care about the
core concept of these events. And the core of what
is happening in the White House is that responsibility is
being placed on the shoulders of Zelensky and European leaders.
And this is way more important than many other aspects
of this meeting. Look, the main question today is how

(03:45):
quickly will America start dwindling its help. Europeans are incapable
in big capital occursive letters, incapable to supply the right
level of military support to Ukraine to continue holding the
front even of the current level, or basically, what it
amounts to a slow sliding down to the ABYSS. Europe

(04:08):
most likely will be capable to supply enough for Ukraine
to either jump straight into the ABBYSS or do it
in a series of leaps. And if you watch the
media after the meeting, Ukrainian media is saying that cheering
that support from the United States will not disappear. White

(04:29):
House in the meantime is saying, if there is no deal,
there is no support. We are looking at the most
tragic segment of this very tragic story. Ninety nine point
nine percent American aid will beat Windley and that means
two significant lines of problems for Ukraine, first on the front,

(04:49):
second in the AAR and not only military issues. Mostly
likely on the rear part, it'll be the economy of
the country. The Lanski already voiced that Ukraine is facing
a significant budget deficit for the next year, and I
think very soon he will be mostly afraid of pensioneers

(05:13):
in Ukraine, the tirees, because they already are coming out
the streets in different parts of the country where they're
not being paid. There was recently piece of news about Sumi,
where government is already delaying their payments of pensions to
the retirees living in that district, and what was Zlansky wearing,

(05:36):
whether he was cleaning his nose or not while in
the White House. That's not so important, Alexey. Let's take
a look at more details of this situation during the
last twenty four hours. I have not seen so much
positive events anytime in the recent history, like in the

(06:00):
last day City then case raising salaries for doctors. They're
also saying that they'll let the twenty two year olds
leave the country if they need to study or visit families.
Ukraine announced that five thousand drivenas will be given to
the family of each first grader who starts his school

(06:21):
this year. You're saying there's a big hole in the
budget of forty billion drivenas for the next year. Marchinko
comes out and says that don't worry, we already found
thirty five we're missing maybe ten. We will find it.
We will continue fighting, and everything is great. And they

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showed the Flamingo missile supposedly flying three thousand kilometers somewhere,
a medium range ballistic missile soil people come down. T
Marathon in Ukraine continues with its propaganda. Everything is speachy,
and tops it. Well, Alexander, what else do you think

(07:02):
they want to say? We screwed everything up and now
it's all going to be said. They're just repeating the
same things that Nazi Germany propaganda about February March of
nineteen forty five. Today somebody even posted a excerpt from
the German newspapers of those times that they were building
new missile and ballistic missile, same thing as we're doing now,

(07:27):
and economic developments and other things. So all these elements
they're not worthy of discussion. Seriously, this is just dressing
of the Potomkin village. So okay, Lexie, what is important?
I think here is the mood European leaders came out
to the photo op and this is how they were pictured.

(07:50):
Stube and the others. They look very grim. I don't
know if that's the moment that photographer got, but otherwise
the is very concerning. In the room, only Mertcy somewhat
smiling to somebody off camera, so they all look seriously concerned.

(08:11):
Mccron and Maloney their faces are also very serious and
expressing some inner conflict. So I want to discuss that
in the light of wood. Zelensky has mentioned He of
course thanked everybody. After the meeting, he said that we

(08:33):
had the best conversation with Trump since forever, and he
thanked Milania Trump for her reception. And he is looking
forward to continuous meetings, including Putin and Trump. And he
showed the details of front activities to Trump. What was
interesting the map was also presented in the Oval office.

(08:56):
A lot of them were paying attention to it. But
what's interesting that mapp has percentage. It says how many
percentage of each district does each side hold? And I
did not quite understand. Maybe you can unpack it for
us the topic of transfer of territory. We understood that

(09:19):
we do not need a ceasefire separately. There'll be a
peace deal all inclusive. But speaking of territory, what should
we look at here, Alexi listen, Alexander, this is all
about the big dug that is being shoved in the oven. Already,
all these percent elements, the mentions of Millennia Trump and

(09:45):
overall warm reception, don'ts can Trump look very much alike
in certain elements wherever they are there is victory. It's
just that somehow sometimes things don't work out. The faces
of Europeans are very telling, like all these speeches, and
they're saying the certain things that these people from Europe,

(10:05):
these leaders from European countries who were hoping to write
on the backs of the United States and who were
singing US asenas about the undestructiveness of international borders, that
they will be supportive of Ukraine. Now they're understanding that
they need to start helping Ukraine with arms, with money,

(10:27):
and with intel. Financially, I think you might find some money,
although we have to remember that there's feet, so there
is urban and governments in nine more countries who might
lean more right than currently. And as we remember, they
were attempts to give more money to Ukraine this year

(10:48):
which have not fared well. The main part for Ukraine
is military supply, military supportive and they already see the
perspective Ukraine is going to lose in some reasonable time
frame without military support, and they will be the ones
to blame. Because Trump made it clear that all might

(11:10):
of his propaganda machine in the United States and his
personal Twitter will be now explaining why the United States
has almost strike abeace with the participants of this war
and its Europeans who are resisting. So for them it
implies very significant consequences, both personal and political. That's why

(11:32):
their expressions of their faces are much more telling than
zaganski suit and his words about the message from Millennia. Alexei.
I found one more thing that I want to share,
because that's happening as we're recording now. Europeans and Trump
have gathered together and Trump took a word and said

(11:53):
that they'll be discussing the current front line and said
that we will strive to counter agreement on all matters,
including security for Ukraine. And understand, this is the insight
from the Oval office that is being discussed when the
press has already left, apparently. But this is the picture,

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last picture that they snapped before being ushered outside the office.
Here you can see Zelenski and Trump talking in front
of the map of Ukraine, and Trump, with a very
serious impression, is delivering some message to Zelenski, who looks
a bit scared and somewhat trying to look smaller than

(12:36):
he is. So one can say that Trump is explaining
to him what will happen on the front and which
territories will go where I may be speculating, but there
are some publications now that the Nansky district is going
to Russia in its entirety, and Russia in exchange will
withdraw from some other districts. So that's what is on

(13:00):
the table, Alexander, What does it mean Trump agree to
He can agree to anything. He cannot give an order
to Ukrainian troops to withdraw from a district. Only Zansky can,
and Zensky will never give such an order. Why because
that implies his political death with all the consequences stemming
out of it. He will never go for it. Therefore, Trump,

(13:23):
he's facing a very simple dilemma. He now understands how
to play this situation. He is about to leave European
leaders in Zenansky and put a big label on this
conflict that this is a regional conflict and I have
a much more appealing arc of a storyline above this
conflict with Vladimir Putin, where we can start mining for

(13:45):
natural resources in the Arctic. This is the day when
he dumps responsibility for this conflict. And basically he's saying that,
if you read it correctly, I have made an agreement.
We have solved all issues. We have no problems on
this list. It is just for you Europeans to accept
it and if you do not want to accept it,

(14:09):
then it is your fault and your responsibility, alex saying,
on one hand, I love the streams like today's because
right now, by the way, there is a statement from
Macron being going viral that we all rely on Trump,
we hope for his support in both in regards of

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Europe and Ukraine. So they came there looking for American
support and looks like Trump is not going for this,
not falling for this. Europeans, Alexander, European leaders of today
are very elegant diplomats, just like the Mosquitos Dick because

(14:54):
from their point of view, the deadly fight with with
a break lunch looks like this. We are saying the
right words. Trump is paying giving military supplies to Ukraine,
and Ukraine is fighting. If Ukraine fails, that's because America

(15:15):
did not supply enough or Ukraine did something wrong. And
if Ukraine prevails, then it is us whise European leaders
who have done it. And here they see Trump like
that editor of the Corn movie leaving the set and saying,
you know what you can have the way you like.
I don't give them right. So there is a funny

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phrase in Russian language, which can be translated into English
as single ball twins, one ball for two. So here
we have one ball for maybe all of the European leaders. Yeah,

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thank you, Alexi. I appreciate the colorful picture, and dear viewers,
if you have any commentary to that, please do. Trump
did not recognize to looking at him and the meeting
and said you are a mighty and young man, and
still when he had his words on it, we found
a solution in nineteen forty five, and I'm sure we'll

(16:21):
find a solution in twenty twenty five to end Russian
aggressive war. Oh yeah, I love breeds. In this regard
to Alexander. They are breaking everything you can imagine, with
the army worth of seventy four thousand troops, which is
less than half of what Russians have on just one

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segment of the front, with the fleeing of billionaires, with
big social issues in Britain, with issues of freedom of speech.
They're also still trying to still run the world with
their tail or backleg or something. Because how come the
world should be listening to us? You all learned at

(17:02):
school that Britain rules the seas, right, how come we
don't roll Macron, you need to provide some support here,
and Macron comes out and says, yeah, we do all
expect America to be a strong ally. Well, it's a
comic situation, you know. Personally myself, my concerns about the

(17:28):
quality of European leaders were growing incrementally. Two and a
half years ago. Understood something and that's when I changed
my opinion about a lot of things in this world.
And today we're seeing the culmination of it. We're being
accused here that we often a piece of praise putin
in our streams, and I have a very simple answer

(17:50):
to that. Be strong, Set the goals that you can achieve,
and achieve those goals, and then we will praise you.
What are we going to praise you otherwise for just
for the words that are not supported by any deeds. Look,
when North Korea is coming to aid of the ally,

(18:12):
they're sending their troops, Their troops are defending some of
the Russian border. What are Ukrainian allies doing? You're right,
Alex say, they are probably having big meetings. Exactly their
meeting with Zevanski putting a phone on the table and
expecting the call from Puttin a Trump wondering probably whether

(18:34):
they will call or not. And that's why Trump and
Putin bat and Alaska demonstrating that the rest of the
world cannot be at their table, does not have the
right to be present at their table. All right, so
we understand this meeting is happening. They are having dinner.

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Giving more commentary. One more thing worth mentioning that we
are seeing some rather interesting events that preceded today's meeting.
Russians are saying that Ukrainian drone reached the energy power

(19:18):
plant of Smalensky Nuclear power factory. Also, Puttin zephas b
supposedly discovered some explosives in one of the electric vehicles
in one of the cities and evacuated that. On the
Ukrainian side, UIV hit a multi story building. A family died,

(19:40):
seven dead. You know, Alexander, I like how Ukrainian office
telegram channels published today's news targeting a multi story building
in Haikov by Russians. How do they know that it
was a targeted hit on the multi story building board

(20:00):
the message sent to that UAV. You know what bothers
me most is not the suit of Zelensky or faces
of European leaders but reactions of my compatriots because I
am to live with my countrymen somehow, and I see
that their brains have been hugged cognitively, and I hope

(20:21):
it's not forever, but somebody would have to do something
with Ukraine after this war is over. Big question how
much of the country will be left at the end
of the conflict. But among the demands for de nassification
and demilitarization, I think one more statement needs to be
added that Ukrainians need to have their brains restored after

(20:43):
this war. They're failing to analyze these basic things when
the newspapers and government channels are publishing on that crap.
And I have an interesting group of friends and contacts
that I listen to that reach to me, and I
only heard maybe a couple of people with bright minds.

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One of them was a military general who reached out
and said, you know, if you guys are saying that
we need to continue war, come to the front and
continue fighting and join infantry, not UAV, not drawn operators,
not communication people, not marketing and pr people, not the
drafts drafting commission. Go join the infantry in the trenches.

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And unfortunately a lot of Ukrainian citizens in the country
have lost their critical thinking. What has been done to
their brain capacity by their power, by the West, by
Russian propaganda. This is a tragedy, you know. Hang on, Alexander,

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this is an important point I want to inject here.
I want to argue with you, Alexei. Here nobody came
out to the protests that Latian ken Bizugla called for.
Remember they called come to the embassy of the United States.
This will help the president write on the cardboards that
we will never give in. We will not give up

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Dnyetsk District. Everybody understands nobody is going to come out.
Yet they're still making publications that let's support our president,
regardless of what you think about him. He's representing our country.
This is a decisive day for us. Everybody needs to
come out in the street and support the president. But
everybody understands also that this is just another lie and

(22:30):
another pr stunt. So people are still skeptical to these messages, Alexei,
Please don't bury them all. Many of them do understand
that there is a lot of fakery happening, Alexander. I'm
not burying Ukrainians. I'm fighting for them as much as
I can and to the best of my ability of
fighting for their mental acuity and hoping that they will survival.

(22:56):
That okay. The problem is we do not see the
normal Ukraine. We usually see the screaming Ukraine that posts
two posts and fifteen minutes first of them says, let's
surround Zelensky had support his visit in White House, and
then ten minutes or fifteen minutes later, America doesn't matter.

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Let's all go fight in the US. And these are
the screaming messages that we need to somehow address and fight.
Germany went through delentcification after the war, and I'm afraid
we'll have to do something like that with Ukraine after
whatever term we use, recognization or restoration of normal information

(23:41):
field that is completely destroyed with these events, because the
pressure of the screaming masses also defines the choices. That's case,
do you think he's just letting the students go. He's
letting the steam out so there would be no youth
in the near future. He's letting them out so he
would not have because people with the cardboards below the

(24:03):
age of twenty two, they go out without any fear.
Because Drafting Commission cannot grab them and they cannot be beaten,
of course, so he needs to care for that somehow,
and he's caring for his presidency by letting them out.
He's not caring about the future of the country because
remember all his rhetoric that we're not letting people out

(24:24):
because of the demographic crisis. If we open the borders,
the country will collapse, and all of a sudden he
lets this group out. Look, there are different ways to think.
There is a way to run around just reading the hype,
reading the headlines. There is a deeper view when you

(24:45):
go and strategize things. And the strategy strategizing is completely
gone from majority of Ukrainian thinking, so that they would
ask a question why nobody lets is let out and
students all of a sudden are let go, are allowed
to leave the country. If we are going into the

(25:05):
new difficult phase of this war without American aid, why
are we letting the eighteen to twenty two out. These
are the best of the fighters. Potentially we need to
probably prepare them and train them and have the best
of the soldiers. So what are we doing here? We
are allowing them to study, or we are preventing that

(25:26):
future mind and future protests, so they don't escape it,
stay and that's the answer for it. Look, and just
one simple contradiction, you can see the logic of this
power where everything is heading and wide. Okay, let's say,
let's think strategically further. So it turns out that if
this plan is to work, for example, everybody below twenty

(25:49):
two can leave, and there'll be some remnants older than
twenty two. So the only protest power against them would
be the soldiers right would be the ones who are
getting drafted. Maybe also those who have left their detachments
and those who fled to the front. Those would be

(26:12):
the powers that he'll have to deal with if everybody
younger will leave. So do you think he will have
enough power to deal with them or he's buying that.
Look at the amount of articles, how brilliant the deed
skis and how amazing he is and his troops are fighting.
Look at Prakapinkadins, who's getting the order of babel un Ski.
Granted he fought valiantly for something at the field, not

(26:36):
truly taken the village yet back, but he already got
the reward. Look at the head of the storm troops
of Ukraine. We've devised a new kind of troops. This
is the fellow also from the right sector, who's leading it.
And this is the answer to the question who must

(26:57):
he afraid of. He didn't give an order to trump,
he give an order to Tracopinca. This is your mark strategy.
He's trying to toy with these guys who will probably
fry them just a few months away from now, whom
they will be running away from, trying to cross that
infamous Tisa River themselves. Okay, so we have a definite

(27:20):
amount of the right wing in the country. Right the
ones who are fighting, the ones who are very loud
and active. But the army, majority of the army is
not that. Most of the army, most of the mobilized,
most of those who fed the detachments, the only ones
who are fed up with the prohibitions of Russian language,

(27:40):
with the fact that they are being drafted and forced
to fight, and they're also aren't. Yes, they're less motivated
as they're less prepared than some of those right battalions.
They are less professional. It's kind of like vermach versus
wealthlessas but they're just more in numbers and the decisive

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word and reality will be with them. But with that
part of the army, Zinansky is not doing at all.
Why he doesn't have enough break. They don't understand how
that works. They think that they have some experience of
political technology, and they have some experience of political pr

(28:25):
that they've been doing, so they think that they've discovered
the main truth of this world. That you have to
work with the loudest and most active people who can
actually go for some political effort and everything will be fantastic.
But when your vessel is going through such a hard storm,

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you need to pay attention to the majority too, and
majority is usually rather quiet till the very last moment.
And Zelenski thinks that he can prevail by uniting with
the most active. It's almost like feeding a hair to

(29:08):
the pack of wolves. You never know whether they'll run
after the hair or they'll jump at you, and most
likely they'll target both. So when all these groups will
try to get to power, they will have to navigate
it somehow, supporting the right and also talking to the
West to get additional financial military support. That's what I'm thinking.

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That Zaganski is already a thing of a past. His
last name is not deciding anything in the future. We
have to concentrate our vision in the future and who
is going to run it, and it'll be a pretty
entertaining time. All right, we will dive deeper into what
can be in a few moments. Guys, do not forget
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(30:13):
some issues recently with YouTube and starlink in Ukraine. So okay,
I want to concentrate Alexi on the meetings. I want
to seriously discuss the historic how do they call it
the historic title of the whether the meeting is historic
or not. Twenty eight meeting Units was Zelenski's meeting with

(30:38):
Trump and European leaders. This was the open part. After that,
all the journalists were asked to withdraw and of course
they're smiling. Everybody is shaking hands in front of the cameras.
Who recognized whom Zelenski talking that he showed some nuance
to Trump and they're ready to make decisions. But what

(31:02):
Trump said, the key points are, we will see whether
we can get to peaceful regulation of the contact in
Ukraine in two to three weeks. Right, everybody started remembering
Autovich with his two to three weeks when Trump says
one to two weeks. Actually, so about half an hour.

(31:25):
The closed part of the meeting was lasting, according to
the media, and trump meeting with Putin was for over
three hours. Ukrainian channels that we mentioned earlier in today's stream,
they're posting pictures where Zaginsky is smiling, Trump is smiling.
See how leaders are open and discussing it with each other,

(31:46):
and all this grimace a at the end when their
uncomfortable questions were asked, and when Trump said blatantly there's
not going to be any native We're not going to
extend military help as Biden did. Because this is a
very corrupt story the way it was done and used.
So which meeting do you think can be called the

(32:07):
historic meeting, the one in Alaska or the one there
was today? Okay, let's measure today's meeting Alexander that some
people are calling historic. There were ten people for half
an hour. You have about three minutes per person. What
do you think you can resolve? Or even during the
thirty minute meeting, if one person is talking all the time,

(32:28):
it's not even a discussion. Trump to gather them and
explain to them what will happen and who will be guilty?
Study Russian classics, the eternal questions, what's happening and who
is to blame? They were just explained in much detail
how it will be and basically concludes with guys, you

(32:49):
and Zedanski are the ones to dig through that should
pile if you want to continue fighting on your own.
So if to draw a parallel with Alaska, Okay, in
Alaska there were some things discussed and decisions being made.
That's why three hours here, they were just informed. So

(33:10):
it's up to your taste. Which of the meetings do
you want to label as historic? Well, all our fashionable
speakers in Ukraine are saying that Zananski is a historic
meeting and historic you know, have you read an interesting
book Gone with the Wind? I was visiting. I visited
the house that the author was describing in this book, SCARLETTA. Harris,

(33:34):
and there are two nice grandmothers guiding the tour groups
over this house, and they told us a legend. I
don't know if that's true or just a city local legend.
Probably local citizens know it better. But where the name
came from, gone with the wind. When the battle for
Atlanta was happening, a lot of people died, of course,

(33:56):
and when the battle was done, when the north has prevailed,
a lot of soldiers came back. The problem was that
the township was very wooden. There was wooden houses and
a lot of trees, and a lot of wooden structures.
And Sherman was fighting rather cruelly, and he burnt the
whole suburb of Atlanta. And that's what I'm heard. I

(34:23):
don't know how realistically historically it's corrected. There were only
two houses left after the fire. The whole brewery, like
you know the suburb of Kiev is gone, so no
buildings are left. For one day, all the ashes are
still there, and the next day a strong wind came
and took away even the ashes. So there was a
town where they lived, loved, were raising kids, and they

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come back and there's nothing. It's just an empty field
left gone with the wind. So that's that one can
roll up parallel that all that that happened since ninety
one that had a pinnacle and twenty fourteen and is
now going on with this war. I'm afraid everything will
be done, nothing will matter, so that there's very little

(35:09):
left in the best option that Ukraine has. Maybe within
a year and a half it will be resolved. But
in reality, in reality, I think everything will be resolved
within the next sixty nine months. What everything this war

(35:30):
and Alexandre I think it'll be a very visual stumping
of history over the opinions of those who are supportive
or looking for that old duprain that must before this.
So you think Znansky is being faced with the choice
to leave, right, he doesn't have an option out to

(35:51):
leave Alexander, Let's discuss it logically for three hours, Trump
and put In, we're discussing this matter. Listen. Also, an
important point here is that these leaders gather together when
most of things are already agreed about, when nine five
percent of matters are being already regulated in pre discussions.

(36:12):
Yet they have another three hours to discuss the balance.
Vilenski comes, he gets half an hour audience. European leaders
get another half an hour. This is not a discussion.
This is a statement that they were getting. Trump is
resolving a matter, this matter from his perspective, and it
just turns out that this matter is tied to Russia,

(36:36):
and his opponents accuse him of defending some Russians interest
in being traded to the United States. No, he's actually
defending the interests in the United States as no one
before him, and European leaders and Zelinski are preventing him
from achieving a peace from this war. So do you

(36:56):
think he's the type of person who will say, Okay,
there's nothing I can do about it, or he will
try to make an effort to realize his strategy and
realize the certain goals that he discussed that he took
an effort to get from Presuma. So, Alexai, there is
an errative being pushed that nothing can happen without your Braine, right,

(37:18):
Alexander will see very assume what z Lanski will do
in the very near future, even if he doesn't do
anything special, and we take the lightest variant of the
events when the support will be dwindling gradually, just that

(37:39):
will lead Zelenski to a very uncomfortable, to a very
problematic future. First of all, from his soldiers unimportant whether
they are the right sector or the ones who were
captured by force by the Drafting Commission. And then there'll
be youth protests. However much you try to fund new
school years and some supportive and in for social matters,

(38:01):
where do you get the money for that? That's another
matter too. That will not help me. And that's why
I don't know whether these meetings were historic. I think
historic events are going to unfold right now after these meetings,
and the story will be rather said because Ukraine is

(38:22):
likely to lose with a huge crush. When the events
will be so horrible that people will be screaming from
where Ukraine is sliding, and when they will be looking
for the guilty parties, they will appoint Zidanski and his office.
He's not the only one, though. All those who allowed
to be deceived by this propaganda are just likely to

(38:43):
blame you, who allowed themselves to be dehumanized during the wars.
People here thinking that U brain that it has no
relation to that, the humanization has no relation to the
level of support. No, it has definitely that relation to that.
That's how you get monetary and military support from your allies.

(39:05):
If you lose your ethics. You don't. War is a prosecutor,
and it's already putting on the wig. Very soon it'll
ask from all the guilty stuff. It won't be very
stowage talking here on YouTube. It will be history making
its demands. There is no easy exit out of this situation. Okay,

(39:28):
let's take half a step back, Alexi. I think it's
very important to look at too, the direct speech of
Trump to all these attendees. Yeah, he's saying that putting
once to come to a deal for me. You may
understand it any way you like, maybe a little crazy,

(39:49):
But Alexi, can you comment what is that chemistry between
puts in Trump that Trump is saying that Trump that
puts in is eager to do some things for Trump.
I'm going to okay in orderly fashion. Here, let's remember

(40:10):
the story of Southern Vietnam, the Agreement of sixty three,
where passenger signs gets a noble peace prize. A lot
of good things happen. They mark the border between northern
and Southern Vietnam, they freeze it along the front line,
and I know, withdrawals of anybody's troops, everything much better
than here. The exchange of prisoners of war. Everybody were

(40:33):
exchanged for everybody. But and the peace suppose the world
supposedly signed and agreed that both Vietnams good and people
of South Vietnam have the right to exist. But a
year and three months later Northern Vietnam just demolish us
Southern and those historic pictures we all remember of people

(40:56):
grasping at the helicopters when they're taking off. Later we
saw that in Afghanistan agreement with Taliban almost agreed about everything.
They switched into offensive basically overnight. And Americans, in a
panic fashion leave and a hasty fashion leave against people
are passing their kids across the defenses at the airport

(41:17):
so they can have a chance of lily for America.
And the people are falling off the big cargo planes
as they leave in Bagram Airfield. And Americans in both
cases are not exactly guilty. Right, So Vietnam, the president
got a Nobel Peace Prize. America signed the peace treaty.

(41:38):
There was also a Champlin check in China. America was
supporting the side of China against the communists, and then
Truman refused to provide continuous support. So any peace deal
now if it does not lead to core changes in
Ukrainian internal politics and external politics, so basically changing of

(42:01):
projectivity of the country. This will lead that in a
year or two, Russian Federation, having freed itself from most
of sanctions and accumulated more effort and participating a bit
more in the internal s bubble in Ukraine, will wait
for a moment and then deliver a Koudi graph to

(42:28):
Ukraine and take a lot more than it did during
this This thought is so obvious to me it's difficult
to grasp how so many people are missing it. So
the CEA is fire that will be for not or
any peace agreement that they will sign, they will not last.
Likely even with the security guarantees a lexi. Yes, even

(42:51):
if right now somebody would come out on Ukraine and
send and say we are joining NATO and tomorrow will
be peace, it would not mean anything because this will
still and like Southern Vietnam, there's no other exit. As
I see, there's no other exit out of this situation.
There's only one possible solution that all these bold, efficient

(43:16):
and undecisive public would not go for. You need to
change the projectivity of the country, and unless you do
that Russia will come in and do that for you.
America doesn't care much about Ukraine in this projectivity that
Ukraine currently has, doesn't need it. Twice, Trump is making

(43:38):
a special operation on transferring the responsibility and washing his
hands from this issue. And he's protecting the interests of America,
not of Ukraine. Most Americans continent point at Ukraine on
the map. Ukraine is being told bye. And I have
said that thousands of times. I'll repeat again. America has
more reasons to have relations with Russia, even if Russia

(44:02):
would have one hundred times more blood thirsty dictator than
put In. America definitely has more reasons to communicate with
Russia than to deal with Ukraine. America has no natural
interest in Ukraine. As I see, Alexey, We're giving them
our reaches right well on American continent and Gooding Alaska
by the way, and the northern fields, the northern shows

(44:24):
there are a lot more resources. Just unlike that famous
moviekans As, the violent player is not needed. Europeans need
us only in words. You could see that in their faces.
How much are they ready to answer for their words?
And you will see all this unfolding much sooner than
you would expect. This is the tragedy of Ukraine that

(44:46):
nobody needs it period. And the second tragedy is that
it allowed itself. People of Ukraine allowed themselves to believe
in all the supportive words instead of looking at the
situation soberly. That's why I see this as a pending catastrophe.
It will not be Ukraine without twenty percent of territory.

(45:09):
It likely will be worse. It will likely be very
reminiscent of southern Vietnam with all the similar conclusions. Alex,
I want to use here phrase everything that will be
already is as you said many times, and we'll get
back to strategic matters for the audience. I see a

(45:30):
lot of questions coming from our audience and people are
being very emotional, others asking significant details. I want you
to comment on one more disaster. Recently, about ten minutes ago,
the head of our UIV detachment's uv arn't forces my

(45:52):
dead his quote, the oil friendship is done with. It
is fully dist joyed by Ukraine. Russia is not pumping
oil into Europe and it is indefinitely for now. So
I understand these are second matters. Main eyeballs are looking

(46:17):
at Washington, what's happening there. But today there was an interesting,
very hard fight between Sierra and Sibiga. They were exchanging
very harsh tweets. Hungary accused Ukraine. Sibega answered something provided
Ukrainian point of view and suggested them to complain in
the Kremlin, and Sierta said, here, I'll go through facts.

(46:41):
Here's a contract here, there are some responsibilities, and it's
Hungarian economic security, energy security, and now apparently my Dada
is taking responsibility for destroying that oil pipeline. Everything that
will be over is we apparently have just destroyed the

(47:02):
energy security of Hungary ourselves. Right, this likely will cause
a lot of sympathy from Europe to Ukraine. I think
Europe is currently buying worth of twenty five billion euros
of different oil derivative products plastics and chemicals from Hungary

(47:24):
from the oil. Right, So that's also rather symbolic that
Madiata the ahead of our UEV troops or Hungarian ethnicity.
He's the one declaring that they've destroyed. My friend from
military said that if you have no brain, you're disabled.
So if you have blown it up, at least stay

(47:47):
mum about it, because now You're going to field all
these questions from European leaders, what about our energy security?
What nord Stream was not enough for you? This is
already a second event of that. Do you think that
all helps to grow pro Ukrainian interests in Europe? And
Hungary now will go and vote to support Ukraine militarily

(48:10):
and financially and with intel. The degree of insanity is
so high that I sometimes do not believe that I'm
not sleeping and actually watching it live. You know, it's
difficult for smart people in this world. They live among

(48:32):
the aquarium fish, but not among the one celled organisms.
I thought, I'm apparently living among the one celled organisms,
or I'm observing these twits from them. And I'm going

(48:55):
through a very complex feelings in the moment in this regard,
because even mom who is telling her kid do not
play with caesars, do not play with Caesar's. Eventually the
kids still hurts himself with Caesar's and Mom runs to
pick the band aid. She has some satisfaction of her
voice that, well, I warrant you about that. And I

(49:25):
think all of the streams from now till New Year
will likely contain a hefty bunch of my exclamation points
saying I told you so, this is madness, pure madness,
alex I want to underline that this is an official,

(49:45):
a military officer. Yeah, this is the Alexander. This is
the commander of the Armed Forces branch, military official of Ukraine.
With his statement affirm what we have done, and it
seems like we basically it could be treated as we

(50:05):
declared war on Hungary. Right, that could be construed as
one of the symbols of military aggression if you bring
it right under the international law. This event easily hits
a couple out of those eighteen articles that define the
signs of aggression. You know, israel Is when they bomb something,

(50:30):
they always in the news. You get that some unknown
jets bombed something in Syria, right, they never put their
names and all the details on it, while Ukrainians also
add a card that where you can send money to
support the troops that have destroyed it, and then we
jump for joy saying yes that's us. So you know,

(50:57):
since September of twenty twenty three, I've been warning that
this is where it goes to, and I have an
endless patience, but I'm curious how long will it take?
Even for the slowest ones to understand that this is
the vector. I think now we're entering the times when
even this group of people will get it. So two

(51:20):
years that's pretty short in the historic time frame. End
of the first hour

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