08/03 Pro Wrestling Boom Podcast with Jason Powell (Episode 270): WWE SummerSlam preview and predictions with Colin McGuire

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the Feast. All right, enoughfootball chatter. It is SummerSlam weekend,
and I have brought in a certainspecialist who likes to help me break down
these pls and pay per view eventswith his predictions. He is a dot
net staffer. You can also checkout his reviews, mostly of SmackDown over

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at Wrestling Observer dot com. ColinMcGuire you're back. How are you,
sir? I'm good. I can'ttell you how excited I am to be
back, so I won't even tryin words. I'll just say that I'm
I'm very excited. But my backhurts years too. I had a rough
weekend, man, I did so. I tweaked my back at softball and
I was like, oh, butit. By Monday, I was starting
to feel better. How do youget your back to feel better? How

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do you do that? Lots ofice and stretching when I can. They'll
tell you to always stretch, butI'm like, not if I'm sore,
and then once you feel up toit, a lot of walking. Okay,
so walking, I don't do enoughof that one, as much of
that one as I should. Butdefinitely the ice and what's you're feeling up
to it, A lot of strategy. Okay, I'll I'll keep that in

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mind. I'm going on about aweek now. I feel the pain's not
going away, so I guess I'llgo to ice next. Yeah, I
mean ice and heat A little backand forth actual help, but I think
they'll primarily tell you ice is andI've had way too many back problems over
the years. So I know moreabout this than I probably should. But
let's talk summer Slim. You mentionedexcitement on the zero to ten level of

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enthusiasm scale. Where are you atfor Saturday's big event. I will probably
let's go. I'll go six pointfive, we'll get in, we'll get
into the points. Now. Idon't think I've ever gone a point four
point five or something like that.I'll give it a six and a half,
six point five. I don't thinkI could say seven, but I

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think six is a little too little. How about you? Yeah, I'm
six ish. I want to behigher than I am, and it's me
took. It's a good card,there's I look at the card and go,
yeah, this is solid. ButI don't find myself as excited for
this show as I have been forsome of their other recent pls, and
I don't exactly know why. Maybesome of it for me anyway, Roman

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rains and JU so I look forwardto the match. I don't personally think
there's a lot of mystery regarding theoutcome that kind of works against it.
I don't know. I'm hoping SmackDownand he's really gonna at least push me
up to a seven on Friday night. I don't know. I don't know
if it if it will, itmight, I don't know. Are you
covering it this week? A SmackDown? No, that will actually be my

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birthday night, and so I'm gonnabe out that evening and Shake Barnett will
be covering it live, but Iwill be doing SummerSlam, which gives me
a chance to work in the plugthe live coverage of Summer Slam at Pro
Wrestling dot Net. Jake Barnett willprove it and I will get together for
a Dotnet triple thread audio review availablefor dot net members. For membership information
or the ad free site and allthe ad free exclude to audio content,

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visit PW Membership dot net and oneother plug. Pro Wrestling moon Life returns
Monday, one Central, two Eastern. Johnny Fair plaint I, the Survivor
Hall of Famer will be taking yourcalls coming out of SummerSlam again. That's
Monday at one Central, two Eastern. If you can't call in because of
that pain in the ass thing calledwork, you can always email me your
questions dot at Jason at gmail dotcom is the email address. But if

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you want to listen live it isPW Audio dot net one Central two Eastern.
How's that calling? That was amazing. I didn't even know I was
setting you up for that, butthat was that was fantastic and happy birthday.
I got to a bunch of presentsthere in the mail, so when
they get there, let me know. I will be checking the mail.
You know they didn't come today.I get my annual card for my aunt.

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She never forgets. It's we don'teven see each other that often,
but that woman never forgets. Iwill tell you one present may rhyme with
Sebastian Schmugger if you remember him,but that a dated reference. Yeah,
so back to summer, Sam,I am with you. I want to
be more excited. I don't knowthat that SmackDown will get me there and

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might get you there, but youprobably we won't see it live. So
if you do see it, you'llsee it. I guess what Saturday,
Maybe I'm Maybe I'll be heavily intoxicatedand see it late Friday night. You
know, I'm not quite sure howthat's going to work yet. If I
am, there's a chance I leftto wake up Saturday morning and watch it
again. See. I think thatwould be the better way to watch it
is to be able to fast forwardthrough commercials and all that stuff. I

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just SmackDown has become laborious in itsown way, but not nearly as laborious
as Raw, which I had thedistinct pleasure of covering this past Monday,
and that was three hours that I'mnever going to get back. So I
don't know. They kind of shrunkthe card. We talked about this before
we started to record. They Ithought they were going to be a couple

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more matches on it. They tooka few away that a lot of people
thought would be on What are weat now? Is it seven? I
think so we're at eight matches currently, and I think the ones you're talking
about tris Tradison, Becky Lynch,which we talked about beforehand, And yeah,
I think everyone kind of thought thatwas going to be on the card.
And I also thought that the finalsof the US Title Invitational thing.

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I thought Austin Theory and Santos Escobarbefore Escobar won and they told us,
so where that match going to takeplace? I thought we might get a
US title match on this show,and instead they're doing that on SmackDown.
In another week or I think somethinglike that. So, yeah, it
is a bit strange. So butlet's not JINX sit com because on Sunday

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for the NXT show, they broughtback the one hour kickoff show nxts are
usually thirty minutes, and had akickoff show match. I don't need those.
I just yeah, I don't either. I'm I'm hoping that's not going
to be the case in Summer.Sam should be a long enough show as
it is. I can understand thejustification for the nx T show because they
keep those shorter and if you wantto squeeze some more wrestlers on the card,

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that's fine. But with SummerSlam,now, this thing's gonna run what
three and a half hours at least? Problem with yeah, I would think,
so yeah. I mean the nicething is if there's no match and
they've gotten in the habit of notdoing it, then people know, like,
hey, if you want that kickoffshow coverage, you enjoy watching it,

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you can, but you don't feellike you Yeah, I don't want
to miss a match. I reallydon't want to watch this pre show,
but I'll suffer through it because Idon't know when the match is going to
start. At least, that's howI feel with those things. And then
on the you know, the otherside, Tony Kn's gotten much better about
it with his aw pay per views, but those Ring of Honor pay per
views still cramming four matches into thepre show. I'm like, oh god,

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it just makes for such a longnight. I know that Ring of
Honor pre show was. I thoughtwe were beyond that. I thought there
was sort of an edict passed downfrom Tony conne aw N Ring of Honor,
But I guess Ring of Honor,that's not going to be the case.
I wrote about that pay per viewthe Monday before Unpro Wrestling Dot now
you can check that out. It'sshameless plug there. But the one thing

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that that was I think everybody thoughtgoing into the Ring of Honor pay per
view was that there was nothing bookeda week out, so it kind of
felt like, well, he hadall these wrestlers he wanted to get on
the card, and maybe that wasa function of why the pre show was
stacked like it was. But butI digress. This has to be to
me, at most a half hourpre show, no matches, Let's get

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going. You know, I thinkthat that that's got to be it.
Yeah, they'll give us an hour. It's just the question. In is
way, it meets the old approach, which was two hour pre shows,
sometimes with kickoff show matches, sometimesnot. And you know you're complaining about
Raw that show. At least they'vemanaged to learn, they've learned how to
build a time. Man. Icovered so many awful three hour raws where

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you'd get like two three things thatfelt like they mattered, and the rest
of it was like just filler.So you came in at a good time
with that. That's good. Iknow, I know it's been better lately
than it has been for a longtime. I remember reading your reviews,
maybe say five years ago, andit just seemed like it was the most
craziest slog anybody would have to gothrough. Remember those days, Oh,

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I try to forget them and fortunatelyhave a bad memory, but some of
those things still stick with you.They just haunt you. Of course,
I don't know how you could trustwatching Raw at this point. It's like
watching Rampage if you had what ifyou had three hours of Rampage to cover?
Oh my, that was my fearwas like, all right, they
say their Collision is going to bedifferent. Let's hope it is, and
what if it's not? And thankgod it has been much better and different.

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I don't know, I mean,other than the TV contract, I
don't know why rampage exists anymore.It's just, you know, the one
week they had the Royal Rampage thatwas kind of fun, and otherwise it's
just here's your four matches and fillingthe people that are going to speak,
and none of it really matters,I know. And now you've you have
been picking up the reviews from whatI have seen. Yeah, and I'm

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still searching desperately for someone to takethat off my planquet say another anybody,
please email dot Net Jason at gmaildot com. But now that you've done
it for a handful of weeks,if not more than a handful of weeks,
do you find yourself viewing it inthe same lens that I did when
I was doing it for dot net? Like you understand, the format every

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week is the same. You haveyou have a woman's match that doesn't go
more than three minutes. You havefive minutes into the show the first commercial
break. They come back then toshow the finish of the first match the
end. The main event usually beginsaround ten forty eight Eastern time. You
know, like, have you gotteninto that groove yet? Have you like
picked all that out? Yeah,there's a real Formula two it um.

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They like to start the show withthe wrestlers in the ring for the opening
match, which I end like,could I just settle in? And then
I used to look forward to theMark Henry said. Now they've turned that
into some prerecorded thing where it's likehe's not even delivering the fresh announcement for
you. I know. It's justthey sometimes run video packages of whoever is

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in the main event, and theonly time you see Mark Henry is when
they do the pre tape it's timefor the main event. It's like,
come on, man, you coulddo better than this. Yeah. I
mean at first time, I waslike, well, maybe he's not here
this week, and then it justkept happening. I'm like, no,
that was the best part of Rampagefor me, I know. And I
remember when I first started out,I was mocking it until everybody told me

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to shut up, and I shutup, and I grew to like it
too, And then when they startedto be lazy with it, I was
like, You've got to be kidding. This is the only reason I'm here.
Well, we better dive into SummerSlam because I'm sure there's people go
hey, the headline said Summer Slam, and you guys are talking about everything.
But so let's start. I wantto get to your predictions and I

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will chime in with mine as well. On the let's start with this Summer
Slam Battle Royal. We only knowso many people, I mean the names
that stand out to me of thoseadvertised as potential winners. Shamus, but
I hope not. I love Shamus, but he's not going to gain anything
from winning this. Certainly La Knightand Bronson read those you know. I

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mean, if they want to throwShamus a bone, they can it.
Again. There's nothing sexy about that. He doesn't gain anything from it.
And more than anything, here's whatticks me off about this match. Here's
nothing at stake, like you cancome up with something a title match anything.
They should actually what they should dois they should give the winner a
year's supply of slim jims, becauseapparently they are. They're sponsoring the Battle

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Royal. And what was so funnywhen I was covering SmackDown last week,
and to my recollection, that wasthe first time they mentioned the Battle Royal
and it was in a backstage promobetween La Knight and Shamus. Yeah.
La Knight said it was a SlimJim Battle Royal, and I thought he
was actually joking, like he wasjust kind of pulling something out. And
then lo and behold, five minuteslater, when they show the graphic for

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the Battle Row, it has theSlim Jim logo. I'm like, oh
my god. So obviously they'd haveto sign off on it. But Colin,
can you think of a better freakinglike spokes been for Slim Jim than
La Knight? I know, Iknow so that. I mean when you
talk about predictions, first of all, like you said, we don't even
know all the participants. Second ofall, I think we're getting a lot

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of fakeouts with La Knight recently.You know, everybody had him as a
favorite for Money in the Bank.Actually everybody's been favoring him in every match
he's been in for the last sixmonths. And then when he doesn't appear
on a paper or not a payper view of premium live event, when
that happens, when he's not onit, people get very angry, so
he's gonna get his spot here.I know it seems predictable, but I

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can't imagine anybody else winning that BattleRoyal, and he was the first one
to bring it up. I'm sureeverybody's read reports too about there's things.
You know, maybe there'll be apost match angle with a legend that comes
through. I don't know, somebodyelse. Maybe he sets up his program
moving forward after winning. But Ijust I gotta take the sucker bet and

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bet on La Night, how aboutyou. It's between him and Bronson read
from it again. We don't knowwho's in so there may be some people
that Andrew were like, oh thatshaners things, Hukamar said on Monday,
Knackamar and Chompa maybe yeah, andthen Gable and Otis. So there's not
a whole lot of yeah. Imean the people that are in there,
and I mean, hey, thisit's a bottle Royal. If they want

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to give it to Otis, theycan. It doesn't matter. But just
for the sake of my sanity,because I have the calling show on Monday,
I'm praying La Night win so Idon't have to answer the same questions
over and over again, when theycould go on, what are those questions?
Why aren't they doing anymore with LaNight? They have they lost their
mind? Way, they don't getit. It just never ends. No,

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I know, I know, andyou can't. You can't avoid it
at this point if you only watchthe TV shows and you're not really embroiled
in the extracurricular social media stuff thatis out there. You come across La
Night every week and you say,how is he not being used more?

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I understand that question. The problemthat I have is it seems like everybody's
asking that question five times an hourand there is no answer to Like,
we don't nobody knows. So they'regonna do whatever they do. Maybe they're
gonna have a slow they have aslow burned plan for him. I think
it was a couple of McGuire's Mondaysago that I wrote about what's going on

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with him, because it is kindof curious. I just I don't know
if he can keep it up,if they have bigger plans for the Royal
Rumble or somewhere even further down theroad, if he can keep up the
popularity, we'll have to see.Yeah, I mean, my theory in
this for a while was basically thatthey know what they're doing, it's only
a matter of time, and theywant this to fe organic. They want

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the reactions that people have. Whyaren't they doing more with this guy?
They want people to be feeling thatway and be getting mad because it builds
interests in La Night, and thenwhen they finally pay it off, it's
a huge moment. The more ofthis drags on, the more concerned I
get that. You know, there'scertainly reports that it's backstage, he's rubs

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people the wrong way or what haveyou. Now, as I've talked about,
this has kind of followed him throughouthis career and wherever he's gone.
I know people that have worked withhim and they say, good God.
But he's an introvert. And ifyou don't understand that going in, you
might think he's standoffish. You mightthink he's big timing you, and it's
it's not who he is. Butthat's the first impression that he can give.

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And I'm hoping that's all it iswhen it comes to the backstage stuff.
But I don't know. And yeah, let's let's make this La Knights
Night please. I'm beaging WWA realquick, what do you think about the
people who complain about him being aripoff? Essentially? You know those comments
that are out there and he hasa lot of rock and stone cold and

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have been all that stuff. Doyou have a problem with that? No,
because listen to the crowd. Youknow, if the crowd was bothered
by it, they would be jeeringand they'd be taunting him rather than being
as invested as they are. So, I mean, there's been plenty of
characters throughout time that have been takeoffsof others. Randy Savage, the other

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the original Slim Jim Guy. Idon't know if he's original, but he
was certainly the most famous of thewrestlers that indoor Slim Jim was based on
Pampeiro Furpo. There was a natureBoy before Rick Flair, of course with
Buddy Rodgers, and there's you know, the list goes on everybody. It's
how many people did Superstar Graham influence? So I think the key is that
enough time has passed where I thinkat one point in his career, had

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he been in WWE, people wouldhave rejected him for that reason. But
now it feels for they like it. You know, maybe they again.
I just think enough time has passedwhere people are embracing this. Yeah,
I agree, I agree entirely,and I don't. I don't understand,
especially seeing ex professional wrestlers criticize himfor lifting some of the gimmicks here there.

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I don't understand that. Like,if you're a casual fan and maybe
you have a probably can, Ican totally get that. But like you
outlined, every wrestler has borrowed fromone other wrestler at least once or a
thousand times in their career. Sothat's nonsense when you hear other wrestlers criticizing
him, that sort of a petpeeve of mine. How concern would you

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be a benchmcmah were truly running theday to day about the MMA rules match
and what his idea of MMA ruleswould be, you'd utterly defile the idea
of mixed martial arts and that Idon't even know what to make of it
now, And I'm assuming we're transitioninginto that they just announced I think it
was on Monday. It was whenthey first announced the MMA Rules, which,

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by the way, tremendous video package. Yeah you like that. I
thought that was great for Ronda Rowsyand Shanna Basler. I just don't if
you're gonna say MMA rules, wouldn'tthat constitute an MMA fight? Really?
This? They were calling it afight at first, So yeah, I
mean, I'm guessing we're gonna getlike rounds and I don't know how this

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is going to work. Yeah,and is it going to be sort of
a work shoot? You know,I don't know they those two. If
anybody could do it, it's thosetwo. You've got to think on every
single level. I mean, RondaRowsy has such a decorated career. Shanna
Basler has her own great career inKnicks martial arts. So you have those
two people coming into this with theability in the sort of know how as

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opposed to, you know, somebodyto go back to La Night. I
don't see La Night getting in theoctagon anytime soon. That's just me.
I could be wrong, But thesetwo could put something together. They're clearly
so they're like best friends in reallife. If they could put something together,
that's very intriguing. I just don'tknow how far WW is going to
let them go. Do you haveany insight into that? No, none

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at all. I wish I did. And Shane's great career. She was
fifteen and eleven. Well, okay, I mean, hey, I'm not
knocking it. Anybody that play hastwenty six MMA flight just doing something right.
If they're winning fifteen of them,that's that's impressive. But it's not
exactly on par with Ronda, right, that's very true. But when Ronda
fell, Ronda fell, Yeah,like she it was like, okay,

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we're done with this, and sheshe uh, she kind of got out
in a hurry, which was rightfor her to do. But you see
those when you see wrestlers, andI don't know that maybe the the exception
is brock Lesner. I don't wouldyou put Bobby Lashly Jake Hager? I
just don't know. Like obviously seemPunk tried it and had two bouts and

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lost. Yeah, you know,like to me, even if you're fifteen
and eleven as a pro wrestler inMMA, that's still pretty good. That
ish yeah, yeah, and yeah, I mean Lashly Hagger not exactly the
stiffest of competition there in their MMMAcareers. As far as I remember,
Batista beat up some guy that Ithink I've seen at my corner bar and

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struggle to do so in that fight, and again, you know it takes
balls just to get in there anddo what those guys did, So I'm
not taking anything away from them,but yeah, these are by pro rusting
crossover standards. Rousy certainly, butBasiler also very successful in MMA. It's
far you said, Rhonda kind ofmade a quick exit from m sounds like
she's making a quick exit from WWE. Dave Meltzer was reporting that she has

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a firm out. Now we don'tknow as I was on the Way Colors
Promising podcast this week, and hepointed out, we don't know when that
is. It could be she leavesright after SummerSlam, that firm out could
be September, and they're going todo another fight or a match between these
two. So I guess I keepthat in mind when I make my prediction.

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But I'm still going with Shana Baslerand because I'm guessing Rondo's out after
this, but I don't know.I am thinking the exact same way that
you are thinking. I agree withWade in the sense that I think it's
a little unfair for somebody to reportsomebody has a hard out and then you
know everybody's going to immediately think,oh, she's gone in two weeks from

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now, you know that type ofthing, and who knows how long she
sticks around. But doesn't this feelto me? The reason why I agree
with you is because of sort ofthe intangibles. Doesn't it feel like her
time's coming to an end? It'snot clicking. This run has not clicked
for Ronda Rousy. I think shegets that. I think the last hope
she has to do something meaningful inWWE this time around is doing what they're

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doing at SummerSlam. Facing Shana Basler, a great, dear, long friend
of hers. She gets a chanceto put Shana over hard and then she
can go away, and if sheever decides to come back, it'll be
with different lenses. I mean,she's probably gonna she has a heart out.
Hopefully she stays away for a while. If she ever wants to come
back, maybe she wants to haveanother child. I don't know, But

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to me, I don't think youcould book anything bigger or better than this
for her under these circumstances. Yeah, and a lot of speculation that maybe
she returns to UFC. Yeah,I mean, obviously the companies are almost
under the same umbrella. They're stillwaiting for the official you know, they
have to jump through some hoops first, but we all know it's heading in

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that direction. And with the MandaNuni has now retired, which was,
you know, the most dominant fighterin that division. And whether it's Ronda
going back to pursue like I wantthe title, or even Ronda going yeah,
I'll come back, and the ideais that she's going to face somebody
that's lower in terms of talent orsomething like that, just to return to

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MMA. I guess we'll see.I mean, it could be a family
related, it could be that.But yeah, it really came together quickly.
I mean, Shane have just turnedon her out of nowhere and confused
everybody, is that what the hellis going on? I think they've settled
in on SHANEA as the baby facein this match. But Colin, do
you think she's going to stay ababy face coming out of this match?

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I think she can. I thinkif if they do a good job,
if the booking does a good jobwith this match, she could come out
as a very important baby face movingforward. The problem is the women in
WWE don't need more baby faces.They might need more heels at least these
in some instances at least. Butthat's a whole other conversation for another day.

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I just think that that if Rondaputs her overheard and people have already
naturally gravitated toward not rooting for Ronda, and I think people too. I
can't think of anybody I've I've talkedto from just from a good friend to
an acquaintance to a stranger, toa hardcore fan to a peripheral fan of

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pro wrestling. I mean, evenif you know who Shana Basler is,
you tend to like her. Itseemed to be people who like her in
the wrestling space, So this couldbe sort of a star making performance on
the main roster. I thought shehad a really good run in NXT,
and I thought it worked with TripleH presumably behind the book. Here she
has a chance to be made inthis match and then move forward into something

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bigger and better. Who knows whatthat is where that goes? You know,
maybe Osca drops the title to BiancaBelair or Charlotte, who are working
as baby faces. Rhonda can moveinto that. You know, it could
go in a lot of different directions, But I think there's a good chance
for this to kick off. ShanaBasler's true, honest one good run on

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the main roster. Yeah, andshe is a poll of that gal.
You know, we saw that inNXT with how aggressively he pushed her.
She was the dominant XT champion.I'm hoping. I mean, I've been
baffled by what they did with herwhen they brought her up to the main
roster in just a year, asthey've wasted call and I asked Jake this,
I'm done in weekly. I don'tknow if you had a chance to
listen to the show or maybe youjust know, but if you don't,

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how old do you think Shanner Basleris? Oh, let's I'll go with
thirty nine years old, forty two, forty two. I would have guessed
like mid thirties, maybe thirty eightat the most. Yeah, I mean,
it's incredible. She You just wouldn'tthink that looking at her. You

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wouldn't. You wouldn't. She's atremendous athlete. And then on top of
that too, she's pretty much hadthe last couple of years off in WWE
since being called up, so shecan preserve her body in that way at
least. I think she has actuallytaken to pro wrestling a lot more than
Rhonda Rousey has. Would you agreewith that? Definitely? Yeah, yeah,

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I mean Rhonda went on the road, so it's not like, well,
she's just part time and look atthe bar has been raised by people
like Bad Money and especially Logan Paulwhen it comes to people coming from other
lines of work who don't have thatin ring training and just how hard they've
worked to get to the point thatthey are. And I'm not saying Ronda
hasn't put the work in. Ijust don't think she's a natural. And

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I think the promos just I mean, I know she had to do them
in MMA to Seller fights, butthey're not good and most of them she
just kind of starts rambling and gettingangry and you just keep going, Yeah,
how great was Basilier though in thatvideo package? Yeah, they were
both really good in this. Iwish we saw more of that side of

(27:34):
Rowsy. It was she came offas human and calling there's times where she
doesn't. Yeah, that's that's very, very true. In fact, I
would say of her WW runs,she has not felt or looked human at
all, even when she wrestles.There's something just unnatural about that, Like
everything is not believable. Now,of course, we can't forget when this

(27:56):
is said and done, When whenRonda Rousey walks away from pro wrestling for
goodever, that is, even ifthat is after Saturday, people are going
to give her a lot of thecredit for ww having that one woman's pay
per view, right, Yeah,yeah, I'm trying to think of I
mean, obviously there were others,but her involvement in it, and I

(28:18):
think did elevate the interest level.She's taken credit for it publicly, you
know, in the past. Idon't know if that's been in character,
if that's something I truly think too, that the fans getting under her skin.
I think that's a real thing.Oh. I think that does bug
her and and because of that,you know, I think that's why she

(28:38):
might want to step away from wrestling. I also think that's why she thinks
she gets overlooked or she doesn't getas much credit as she feels she deserves.
And maybe there's a little bit oftruth to that. She's not the
greatest wrestler, she's not the greatestpromo. Everybody had high hopes for her
she kind of survived for the firstthree to six months in WWE on her
star power alone. Since then youkind of have to become a good wrestler.

(29:00):
She didn't do that. Is sheto blame. I don't know.
She went to start a family,you know, like think about that,
just right when she started to getrolling, she took what a year break.
That's tough, it is. Ithink some of it, too,
is the mistake that was made withher. I give her respect for wanting
to come in and not be treateddifferently. And you know, she didn't

(29:21):
work a full time schedule, butshe did go on the road working live
events and things at times. ButI think it almost worked. The fact
that she wanted to wrestle like everybodyelse and just do all of that worked
against her. I mean, it'sthe most easy comparison to make, but
I would have taken the brock Lesnerapproach with her. Less is more with

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somebody like Rowsy, make her appearancesreally matter. It just became too common
to see Ronda Rowsey on WWE television. It didn't feel special anymore. You're
a thousand percent right. And theother thing about that too, when you
talked about the lessons more. Iremember when she debuted, she only had
like four five moves. We sawher give Triple H of Fireman's Carry and

(30:03):
it was the greatest move in thehistory of wrestling. Everybody went wild and
she did like a couple of goodlooking arm drags and that was it.
Like that was kind of it.Remember that WrestleMania match between her and Triple
H and Stephanie and Kurt Angle.She didn't do much, but what she
did look good enough for people toget excited. She just never really took
three steps beyond that, I think. Yeah, and it's a shame we

(30:25):
never got the Rhonda and Becky bigsingle showdown. Yeah, they kind of
wed Charlotte into that match, andmaybe for good reason, you know,
sure, what's kind of made itseemed like she was the glue in that
match, and I could see that. But I really did think we'd get
back to Rhonda and Becky straight up, and it just never happened. Yeah,
which, and that's a shame.They I thought they had genuine heat
too. It felt like they hadheat, which was which was a lot

(30:47):
of fun because I think they're bothvery strong personalities. In fact, of
all the personalities in that division.Those two might be the actual, real
life strongest personalities. It seems likelike Becky Lynch will kill you, Ronda
as will kill you too. Soit's one of those things. I don't
know that Becky could have carried herto a great match, and I think
it would have taken a lot moredevelopment from Ronda Rowsy in terms of in

(31:10):
ring work to make that work.Becky's a great talker, obviously she could
have helped sell the match. Butwe're seeing right now. I mean the
past six months, eight months,Ronda Rowley has been exposed in the pro
wrestling space, and she either needsa reboot or she should just, you
know, give it up. Ihate to say that too. I don't
want to be too negative, butyou know what I mean. Yeah,
even if it is like, Okay, she's going away for a while to
do whatever, Hopefully if she doesreturn, it's exactly what she needed.

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Because you've said, this run hasnot been strong since she's come back.
Some of it's on her, someof it's on them, but she's still
Ronda Rowsy and I think, boy, if she were to go back to
MMA and have some success, thatcould heat her up again on the WWE
side when that MMA run ends.If that's what she's doing, Gunter Drew

(31:56):
McIntyre Intercontinental Championship, call me crazy. I mean as good as Rhonda and
Shana can be in the ring together. I hope in terms of trying to
make it look realistic, Gunther andMcIntyre will outdo them when it comes to
beating the holy hell out of eachother. That's very, very true.
This should be a hell of amatch. It might end up being the

(32:16):
match of the night. I thinka lot of people might have it slotted
in that position as long as itdoesn't disappoint. I enjoyed the Chad Gable
Gunter match on Monday. I thoughtthat was great. The thing I didn't
like about it was the five minutechallenge that became confusing. I understand you
kind of protect Gable doing that,but whatever that that's a different conversation.

(32:38):
I've become sort of invested, notinvested, but I keep tying my thoughts
or predictions to the things out therethat have been reported over the last several
months about ww wanting to sort ofreset their record books and Gunter is so
close to breaking of all people,the y Tonk man's record as Intercontinental Champion,

(33:02):
which was supposed to be you know, it's supposed to be the Worker's
Belt. It's when somebody good hasit. It's probably the coolest title in
WWE at times. It has beenin the past that said, I can't
imagine gun Through losing this match,but God, I'd love to see Drew
get some booking love here sooner thanlater. He hasn't won a match in

(33:24):
twenty five years, a meaningful match, and it really bugs me. What
do you think? Yeah, Ithink Gunther retains what I'm most hopefully.
I'll be really surprised if they goin a different direction. But what I'm
really hoping is that this isn't aone and done, that we'll get more
from these two and the finish isdone in a way. I don't want
a cheap lay mass finish. Buteven if it's Gunter gozoh, one of

(33:47):
the they're both down and Gunther's armhappens to be draped over McIntyre. You
know, something like that where itfeels like these two have unfinished business.
That doesn't feel you know, distraction, finished you ual crap they give us.
I'm hoping it's a good finish thatleaves you wanting more, and they
give us more somewhere down the road. Yeah, that's kind of where my

(34:07):
mind has been with this because Ithink Gunther gets there. I think he
breaks the record, but I thinkthis match actually sets up McIntyre's crawl,
his battle toward that title to makeit more meaningful. Drew just only recently
came back. There were things outthere, and McIntyre came out recently and
said maybe there was a little bitof smoke to the fire that was out

(34:29):
there in terms of reports. Hewasn't happy with creative, he was thinking
about leaving blah blah blah whatever.That still well, there's that too,
and maybe this is you know,maybe this is one of those things where
he comes back. He loses toGunter first, they still find a way
to keep the program going for thenext three six months, and then finally
McIntyre gets a great win and he'sthe one that to thrown the guy who

(34:53):
held the title for the longest.That seems to be the most logical booking
to me. As long as Drewsticks around, like you said, he
is not officially resigned, that's Imean to me, nothing matters until the
ink is dry in this business.Yeah, so Drew could walk out still.
I have no idea what's going onthere, but I think that they

(35:15):
have a lot of room to playthis program out beyond SummerSlam. Yeah,
and you know, with these contracts, I do wonder how much of it
is just they're in limbo to someextent, like maybe we don't know what
endeavors going to be like as owners. Maybe things get better and if you
just kind of wait out this processand you'll you'll get more money from them.

(35:36):
They don't have a great rep whenit comes to UFC fighter pay,
so maybe it goes the other way. It's kind of the great unknown.
But McIntyre is a guy that ifthey don't take care of him financially,
they can't work something out. Ihave no doubt that Tony con will and
my concern with McIntyre and aw hasbeen he is going to dwarf everyone.

(35:57):
But we do have a show namedCollision now, and you know, all
of a sudden, you have yourmirrors there in Powerhouse Hobbs, and he's
still gonna be significantly taller than thanI think both of those guys. But
yeah, it feels like he wouldbe a better fit on a show like
that rather than working on Dynamite witha lot of them more you know,

(36:19):
traditional cruiser way. Not that allof them are, but there seemed to
be a lot more guys that sizethere. And yes, you can make
him a heal but as I've saidabout McIntyre for years, good heal,
great baby fish. Yeah, verymuch. So that's that is a thousand
percent correct. I look at everythingthat he's done for WWE over the last

(36:42):
three years or so. Remember hiswhole title reign was in front of nobody,
Yeah, everybody. Everybody sort ofthought that he would get a win
at a WrestleMania with people back thatfirst one back in Tampa Bay. I
think I think it was working withBobby Lashley, if I remember correctly,
Yes, and um Bobby Lashley wonactually, and McIntyre never got what everybody

(37:05):
had coined at that he needed aWrestleMania moment. He just has never had
one and he still hasn't had one. So I think he's been a company
man. He's done what they've askedhim to do. He's well within his
right to want something more. Ithink so at least, and this is
speaking from a million miles away,so I could be entirely off base.
But even with that said, yougo to a w what is the ceiling

(37:25):
there? You know they have establishedstars, established AW stars who are probably
more in line for the biggest titlethey have. You know, does does
Drew McIntyre? Why tune in toDynamite two hundred to night? But um,
but my thing there is it's like, well, what does he want?
Does he want more? It alwaysthat's the Jim Ross, the Jim

(37:49):
Ross thing cash or creative? Doeshe want more money or does he want
to be a champion? I don'tknow what is what? To me,
it seems like WWE is a betterplay for him. But as we saw
and heard with the Elite resigning withAW today in that news, they love
the schedule, not being out onthe road as much. Maybe Drew doesn't
want to be out on the roadas much. And we don't know any
of this, so it's kind offun to speculate not to get two sidetrack.

(38:13):
But I did kind of chuckle atthat. I like the honesty from
Hangman Page and Nick Jackson, butthe schedule, but it wasn't exactly Man,
We're so happy of course we're withaw it's it's home, and you
know it wasn't the stuff you'd expectto hear in the press release. Yeah,
there's the schedule played a big partin this. I man, you

(38:34):
and I we have the same brain, which is scary for you to it's
scary for you. But but Ithought the same thing. I was looking
for more from those from those comments. I think the only the only source
that really stuck to me was theKenny Omega stuff because I could see him
truly believing what he said, likethe whole idea. It's like, I

(38:55):
could be more diverse here. Youknow, he could wrestle in Mexico,
he could wrestle in Japan, andmaybe he likes to do He really wants
to do that. He said.He's twenty five years in the business.
That's what he wants to do rightnow. I understand that. But with
how much the other guys laid onso thick the schedule, It's like,
come on, man, you guysalready have you have three shows on television

(39:16):
a week, you tape two nightsa week, you have pay per views,
you have also you know they're startingthese house show loops. I don't
know if that's ever going to comeback, but that schedule could definitely expand.
And you're you're saying, I justwant to stay here. How old
are they? Like? Pagesn't eventhirty yet, is he? He's like
twenty eight, twenty nine, he'syoung. What do you mean you want
to stay home? Go work?My rants over? Yeah. I won't

(39:39):
vote anyone who enjoys having the downtimethat comes with the lighter schedule. I
just like part time wrestlers. Peopleused to get down on brock Lesner for
that. Now people get down onRoman Range for that. And I'm just
like, hey, it's what youwant out of life, you know,
I mean thirty two by the way, hangman, Yeah, I just like

(40:00):
that up too. I was gonnathank you for correcting out. Yeah,
no, I was curious to Iwasn't sure. I didn't think twenties,
but I didn't think much older thanthat either. But yeah, I mean
I'll never look down on somebody whowants to have a work life balance.
And I mean there's people who areeverybody's wired differently. I remember talking with

(40:21):
an interview with Conrad Thompson and waslike, why don't you just live on
an island somewhere, because that's ifI had, you know, megabucks,
I wouldn't be that guy that's likestarting businesses and doing it. I just
know me. I'm like, I'mcontent. And maybe i'd find out differently,
maybe six months and I'd be like, I'm bored, But I don't
think so. And there's other peoplethat they just they have more money than

(40:45):
they lever need. But it's justthey're driven by doing other things. So
everybody's wired a little differently in thatway. And I don't fault them.
You know, they're both fairly youngfamily men. Page has a fairly new
family fact with the birth of hischild, and so yeah, but I
get if you are looking for that. I can't blame them, and I

(41:07):
think that is an advantage for itfor some an aw, there's gonna be
some like back in the day whenpeople would grumble about the WWE schedule and
boy, they need to start lighteningup on these talents. There would be
talents in that company basically in anice way, gonna showed up. You
know, this is where we makeour chatter. We're happy doing it,

(41:28):
and so yeah, everybody's different.Yeah, and I have all the respect
in the world for that as well. But I find it very hard to
believe that they will be content beingpigeonholed in this category in pro wrestling history
that says what if? And theone question and this was this is kind

(41:50):
of why the announcement to me,if there is any disappointment in it,
it's because of this. I wantto know what if. I want to
know how they would fit in.You know, Cody already went over over
there. What is that like?Could Cody help them get some booking love?
How would that? You know?You that's very true. I want
to I want to know what thatpersonal issue was too in the documentary that

(42:13):
Cody reference. But that's another thing. Um, I just I find it
hard to believe that before it's allsaid and done, they're going to be
victim to the whole what if conversation. Now, with that said, they're
in their prime now, and somemight even argue they could be a couple
steps past their prime. Their primehas already happened. Do you want to
be you know, Willie May's lookingfor the ball in the outfield, not

(42:36):
being able to know what the gameis anymore? Do you want to be
Shaquil, like, if they goway past their prime, does it really
mean anything? And I don't knowif I just think that those things factor
into those decisions now I do.One of them said, I think one
of the Jackson's said, you know, it's all elite wrestling. Yeah,

(43:00):
said that. I believe it's sobizarre to think of them not being there
because they are literally the elite.But man, wouldn't you like to know
wouldn't you have liked to see themin WW? What do you think,
Jason? Oh, sure, I'malways curious about things like that. I'd
be It's like, boy, whatwould it be like if Roman Rains went
to AW not just part of fandom, which is a lot of which is

(43:21):
you know, the Barstow conversations thatare great to have and make great podcasts
like your podcast Pro Wrestling Boom tunein everybody they already are. Yeah,
that's but you also, like youhave to think though, too, if
you're ever going to get that KennyOmega Roman Rains match, it's not going
to happen in AW. That wouldhappen in WWE. And that's pretty much
I'm sure where a lot of peoplethink, you know, the tag team

(43:43):
stuff doesn't really matter because WW isnot serious about its tag team division.
I guess the USO's and Young Buckscould be a lot of fun, but
that's the one I'll tell you whereI went through that. What you're talking
about is FTR. Now things areworking out great. Yeah, but pre
Collision, I was hoping like they'regonna be in WWE, just and just

(44:04):
as a fan, I don't pick, I don't choose side, I don't
care. I want check to watcheverything. I hope everybody does well.
But just as a fan, I'msitting You're going Sammy's Ane Kevin Owens just
won the titles and they're going towin the titles at Manny I think it
was, and they'll probably be donewith the USOS at that point. Boy,
how fun would it be if FTRjust slid right all of a sudden,
the Revival return and you get Koand Sammy against the Revival. Yeah,

(44:28):
that would be great. But Ithink that it's working out well too.
They had these incredible matches on Collision, So in WWE, I do
think you have a ceiling when itcomes to tag team wrestling in WWE,
even though USOS, who might justbe well, they are certainly one of
the best tag teams to ever bein WWE. That's not where the money
is, That's not where I thinktheir heads are. Vince mcmah at least

(44:50):
always had the creed where it waslike they're the screen where you said we
need to split them up. Andnow Jayuso is getting that singles push.
FTR would never ever want to dothat, and to their own, you
know, to its own degree,Das kind of got a little singles push
on his own when when cash waswas out and you just saw Dak's pin
the world champion. So I don'tknow, I mean, now we're just

(45:10):
getting down a rabbit hole. Butall things, all things said, I
was a little bit surprised and alittle bit disappointed that they're staying in aw
But back to summers, Yeah,no, it's always fun to think about
that. I mean, that wasgoing back as a watching wrestling as a
kid. You just have those momentswhere what if so and so went to

(45:31):
here and oftentimes would happened, likewhat if Rick Flair and Hulk could ever
wrestled? That was the big oneas a young fan, and then I
got to see it in person atTarget center one of the early matches,
and it was very cool with misterPerfect in the corner and all that of
the of Rick Flair and it wascool. But yeah, you just spent
all that time, I mean,and it's no different than I think Jets

(45:55):
fans right now are probably I don'tknow how much time they spent fantasizing them
having Aaron Rodgers in particulars or quarterbackbecause he's a d bag, but I'm
sure they're very excited, just likeI was when the guy that I rooted
against for years and years became thequarterback of the Vikings Brett farm who now
I'm back to Boing by the way, because of his issues in Mississippi.

(46:16):
And you are, by the way, you were talking to a lifelong Jets
fan, so I can speak tothat. Did you daydream about Aaron Rodgers
being your quarterback ever before? Notonce? And when it started to head
in that direction, I was nota fan of it. But I will
tell you this, He's starting towin me over for some reason. Taking
the pay cut and all that.I kind of like that. That was
encouraging to see. I wish KirkCousins would figure this out and Tom Brady

(46:38):
and Patrick Mahomes and now Aaron Rodgershave and Kirk says he wants to be
a Viking for life and all this, It's like, well, prove it.
You know you've made money. It'snot like I'm asking you to stand
in line at the freaking soup kitchenor something. You've made your money,
dude, how about a team friendlydeal if you really want to be here
anyway? As you said Summer Slam. So it sounds like we're both predicting

(47:04):
Goon through though correct, yes,yeah, correct, Okay, let's go
to the what are they calling thisthe most viral match in WW history something
like that. Ricochet and Logan Paul. How have they done building up Ricochet?
Because he was pretty damn damaged reallyeven I don't know, a month
or two ago, and they've slowlybeen trying to give him a bit of

(47:25):
a reboot, and I think it'sworked to some degree. I don't I
don't really know how high Ricochet's ceilingis. If you talk to some people,
you know, ten fifteen years ago, they would have said, how
could you ever miss on Ricochet?And I'm not saying WW has, but
you know, he's been buried.Over the last couple of years at least,

(47:45):
if not longer, the Logan Paulthing has helped. I think it's,
you know, in a weird way. I'm not talking about in ring
work. I'm not even talking aboutpromo ability, because I do think I
have my issues with Logan Paul's promos. They aren't they aren't the best as
far as I'm concerned. But um, I think his sort of star power
has carried Ricochet into this this place, and it's worked. They turn the

(48:08):
heat up a little bit on Mondaywhen Logan Paul talked about Ricochet's fiance,
UM, and I kind of likethat touch. Um, I think Ricochet
should have reacted a little bit moreruthlessly. You know, if somebody is
talking about my fiance, I don'tknow that I'm you know, I need
to do a shooting star press onhim. I think I just want to

(48:30):
beat the hell out of him rightaway. But that's just me. I
don't know. You know, Yeah, she's you love her and all,
but man, you know she's shegets under people's scan. Well, in
that case the arena, are yougonna fight? I mean, I guess
she's there at ringside. You kindof have to. And I'm not believing.

(48:51):
I'm not saying Samantha Urban has thatreputation. I'm just totally joking.
Yeah, yeah, with her beingright there, it's like, I'm not
going to work a side headlock.That's not what I'm going to try to
do. But Ricochet. He Saywhatever you want about him, say whatever
you want about his promo abilities,whether or not he's failed in WWE,
how they've used him, etcetera,etcetera, etc. You cannot take away

(49:15):
his ability to fly and his abilityto come up with these creative moves and
take chances that pretty much nobody elseon the ww roster would do. And
you have to have respect for that. And I think that's why you find
Logan Paul in this position with him. You know, I think we've all
read it too by now. Theywanted to have a sort of a wrestling

(49:35):
spotlight match for Logan Paul, whichto me, that's not you know,
seven minutes of arm drags and armbarsand head scissors. I don't think that's
what that means. I think whatthat means in this day and age is
a bunch of really cool stuff visuallyhappening one way or another sort of a
spot fast as people would say,and I think Ricochet can give them that

(49:58):
this is going to go on first, right you read those reports? Oh
no, I didn't even know.Yeah, So I guess the deal is
Logan Paul wants to wrestle first,so then he can leave and get to
Jake Paul's boxing match on Saturday night. So this has all the potential in
the world to go on first.I think that's the working plan from things
I have read. I could bewrong, so don't quote me on that,

(50:20):
but this goes on first. Ithink. I don't know. I'm
tempted to think Logan Paul actually winsthis because I think he's sticking around.
What do you think? Ah?Yeah, Well, when I saw him,
this was the direction they were goingin. I thought, Okay,
we've seen Logan Paul lose two Romanreigns. We've seen him lose to seth

(50:43):
Rawlins. It's probably time to givethis guy a win. And Ricochet is
a guy that you can certainly sacrificeto give him a win. Will I
be shocked if they go with Ricochet. No, but I'm sticking with that
prediction. I do think that thisis a match that you can safely have
Logan Paul win. I'm not sayinghe needs to win clean. You know,

(51:05):
it's on top of what you saidabout what he brings to the table,
I think you left out the biggestpart the douchebag factor this guy,
whether whether it's natural and match whohe is, whether it's manufactured, there
is a douchebag quality that makes youwant to see bad things happen to Logan
Paul. Yes, and in prowrestling, that's a great trait to have

(51:28):
it very much, is I Youknow, if if and I'll just go
out on the I will say I'llpick Logan Paul kind of reluctantly, but
I agree he needs a win.Ricochet can take a loss. He takes
losses. That's what he does thesedays. That's fine, But wouldn't it
be so much fun to see LoganPaul and l A Night work together moving
down the road. Sure, yeah, absolutely, And I think those when

(51:50):
you talk about douchebag factor, LoganPaul certainly has that. But when Lae
Knight was an NXT and working asa heel, he was perceived as a
big douchebag too. So and youcould go back through La Night's career,
Eli Drake and whatever incarnation you want. I think they could just have a
lot of fun together. It wouldbe different if Logan Paul was obviously going

(52:14):
away for a year or six months. But I think he's going to be
a guy that we see every threeor four weeks pop up in WW.
Do you think so, I hopeso, yeah. I mean it sounds
like he signed a new deal andso I don't see him doesn't seem like
he has a desire to be afull time person. And that's okay,
you know, Yeah, in aperfect world, he's good enough where Yeah,

(52:36):
that's one of the few celebrities likeman, if this guy went full
time, he'd really be something else. But he already is something else.
It's just they only have him insmall doses and it works out fine.
And I would hope that there's moreto come, and I think there is.
And yeah, special events. Iknow he's talked recently about doing more
boxing. I saw a headline hewants to get back to that, So

(53:00):
probably going to dabble in both.And yeah, and in fact, I
do want to give I was lookingit up here. That's why I sound
distracted. John Moratti on Twitter becausewhen I was on Wade Show, I
kind of said, Mike, Iwouldn't be surprised with the finish. Is
Jake Paul interfering in this fight?Ear in this match? But as you
mentioned and John pointed on Twitter,Jake is actually fighting in Texas on Saturday

(53:22):
night, and so he says don'texpect him at Summerslamp. I will not,
John, although I mean, hey, if Logan Paul can make it
to his fight in time, wellwhy can't all right? Maybe because Jake's
actually fighting on the side of thatnight and has better things to do.
Yeah, that's the way He's gotNate Diaz, right, Is that who
it is? I think I thinkthat's who it is. Jake Paul and

(53:44):
Nate Diaz in Texas, and Igot collisions going to get destroyed. Oh,
I know, I wouldn't even tryif I was booking. If I
was booking that, But you knowwhat's you know, well, we don't
need to go down in the awrabbit hole again. I think the fights
between Detroit and like, he's gonnacharter you gotta think he's gone a private
jet. He's gonna he could getthere easily. Now, Jake Paul's got

(54:07):
to make sure his mind is rightexactly if you're going to step in the
ring with Nate Diaz and hope notto die. Oh hey, what if
you're looking for an easy excuse?Wow, my mom, I wasn't focused
on the fight and that's why Igot knocked out. I shouldn't have gone
to Summer's lamp. That's probably agood idea, or you know that.
I think it'll be. I willget a kick out of, however,
Logan Paul acts at the fight,because you got to think if he gets

(54:30):
the win over Ricochet, which iswhat we're both predicting, it sounds like
he's probably going to go down thereand be even more of a douche.
And that'll be fun. I'd liketo see he's such a douche. I'd
like to see him bring Samantha Irvanto the fight. That would be hilarious.
So yeah, Ricochet is still awork in progress on the promos.
I'm it took a while for meto get sold on this until, in

(54:52):
fact, I wrote on Monday likethey finally did it because I was it's
Ricochet and he's just been so damaged. But I think things are moving in
the right direction for him. Polivcsalways been high on him. I'm not
a big fan of the button upshirt cit he wears. That's just me
calling you're a younger man than Iam. Are those cool because I'm just
like every time I see him,like, no, I think they are

(55:15):
if you have the body, youknow I don't, they would not look
good on me. So it's thesame thing with the pants he wears.
If you noticed, they're they're kindof like capris. They're kind of like
Raffie on the daw. I'm thrownoff by those, but even more so,
and I thank god my girlfriend HCshirts. Now I'm really going to
sound old. The sleeves on menshirts now come up like you know,

(55:36):
they they like they look like toddlersleeves. I don't know what you're talking
like. They're always short, thoseshort, really truly short sleeves, like
oh yeah, yeah, mostly thekind of come close to your elbow,
not anymore. Oh yeah, they'reup by your shoulder at this point.
Yeah, two old men talking fashion. I'm sure people are loving this.

(55:59):
Let's go to we have a newpodcast. Yes, really, the four
main events on this show, theywent out of their way to tell us
repeatedly that Cody and Brock is oneof the main events of SummerSlam and I'm
like, okay, so Seth andFinn, Roman and Jay and I would
hope that you know they're gonna They'vegot their three biggest women stores on No

(56:20):
SmackDown. I sure enough. Sothere are four main events of the show.
There's only four undercard matches, butfour man events. Which one would
you like to start with Colin?Oh? Boy, well he started with
Cody and Brock. We could dothat. Let's do it. Let's do
it. This is the rubber match, you know. I was for me,
it was like, Okay, they'regoing Cody. He has to win

(56:43):
this, and I still think hedoes. But one thing I find interesting
about the way that they've set thisup. They're not building this is the
last match between the two, andthey easily could if it was going to
be. So it's in the backof my mind, but I'm still sticking
with Cody. Well, it's alsoI think we all thought there'd be a
stip right, that there would bea stipulation, and that was why Monday

(57:05):
they were going to come face toface. I came away when I sat
down with my laptop reviewing it.What's the stip gonna be. This is
gonna be, to me, thebiggest headline coming out of RAW on Monday
that didn't happen. And usually,if you think about old school mentality stuff,
old school philosophies, the stipulation usuallymeans it's the blowoff, right,

(57:27):
that's it. That's you don't justwrestle one on one. You got to
have a steel cage, or yougotta have a loser leaves town or a
bull rope match or something insane tomake it the blowoff. This is just
a regular old match. And becauseof that, and because of what you
just pointed out that they didn't saythis is the third and final time,
I do have doubt that Cody wins. I think Brock could win, and

(57:51):
WWE is kind of in the businessof swerving people these days. It seems.
All of that said, I'll takeCody two, right. I do
have a theory on why there hasn'tbeen a stipulation added. It's because the
Tribal Combat match is just another noDQ match and there's nothing unique about it.

(58:12):
I mean, they may spruce itup and you know. For all
I know there's going to be it'llbe like a Viking Rules match where they're
gonna have the tribal artifacts or somethingat ringside, but it's still just a
no DQ match, and that's whatthey would normally give a lester match and
no holds bar, no d itfalls kind I mean, you could do
false kind of anywhere. That'd bedifferent. But yeah, I wonder if
that's if it's as simple as that. So that one was easy, let's

(58:37):
go. I'll go with the what'sthe ladies first hear? Of these three
title matches we have remaining Oscar CharlotteFlair, Bianca bel Air triple threat for
the WWE Women's Championship. I finallygot it now right, Rhea's got the
world the SmackDown side has a wW Did that take you any time at
all? Am? I just domI still don't get it right. So

(59:00):
if I recall Ria is the NXTchampion, Oscar and now I still don't
get it right. And by theway, of all the matches we left
off the card that we thought wouldbe on Ria Ripley and Raquel Rodriguez I
thought would be on this card aswell. I thought Rio would have to
defend her title, but I guessnot. I'm happy they didn't just race
it in at the last minute.When they did that angle on Raw,

(59:22):
I was worried because it reminded meso much of what they did with Matt
Riddle and Gunther. We're heading intothe match Riddles the heavy underdog, and
then they do this angle on Rawwhere Gunther destroys his foot and like we
already knew he was gonna lose,Why are you doubling down on this?
So if had they done the samething with Raquel, I'm thinking her ris

(59:43):
winning. And then also Ria destroysher knee. Well, now I really
really think Ria's winning. Nothing's accomplished. So at least they didn't do that.
Yeah, and I'm certainly thankful forthat. And we'll get to see
Ria anyway, presumably with the judgmentday and we'll get to that in a
second. But this match is it'sit's interesting to me. I am so

(01:00:06):
big on Oscar. I know I'vebeen on this podcast before and talked about
it. I don't want to goon and on. I just love Oscar
so much, and I actually likethis reinvention. I like her as a
heel and speaking of what people wearto the ring, I like her in
the sort of the pants and thefluorescent colors. I think that that's a
good switch up for her the psychoclown look. Yeah, I like it.

(01:00:27):
I do. Yeah, me too. I wish there was more to
it. I don't like that.It's just okay, it's the same old
Oscar promos, but a different lookwhen she wrestles, Like, No,
there's a lot you could do withthat look. As far as creating a
different persona for her, Yeah,I know. And I just wonder if
that's ww's fault or her fault orwhat. But I you know, I

(01:00:50):
guess with all that said, AndI'm literally saying this out loud right now
for the first time, So Idon't. I'm just I'm gonna pick Oscar
based on my fandom for Osca,But I will, I will give you
both sides of this. Where myhead is at, I think it's too
early to go back to Bianca justbecause etc. And Charlotte Man, at

(01:01:15):
some point, she's got to bemore than the queen. She just has
to. There's no death to hercharacter. There hasn't been in years.
I don't care if they change yourentrance music, which they did it.
I just and I don't really thinkshe connects with the crowds at all much
anymore. I actually wonder if thiskicks off a program between Charlotte and Bianca

(01:01:36):
specifically, and Oscar escapes the champion, what do you think? I agree,
I think Oscar retains. You stillhave EEO Sky waiting in the wings
for Oscar with that money in thebank counter or briefcase, and I don't
see that being cashed in on thisshow. I hope not. I'd rather
yeah, I mean too, I'drather fifteen minutes of EO Sky and Oscar.

(01:01:57):
That'd be great. Yeah, yeah, I'd rather he was going to
win the title. I'd rather seeor do it in a standard match rather
than a quick cash in. AndCharlotte, to me, is just more
interesting when she doesn't have the title. I don't like that they bring her
back and race the title on toher. They've made that mistake time and
time again. And I know,oh it's the number of title victories,
Like, who gives a damn.It's just so silly. And I know

(01:02:22):
we'll get there and they'll make abig fuss over but there was a better
way of doing it. I don'tlike the way they've taken that approach with
Bianca. Yeah, she needs togo on a journey to regain the title.
It would be too soon. SoI think Osca is the one that
makes sense. With the little asteriskthere that okay, Eo does have money
in the bank and they do lovethem from Charlotte. But yeah, I'm

(01:02:43):
going Oscar and then let's go sethrawlins Finnbalor World Heavyweight Championship. No stipulation
to this one. As you mentioned, I assume Judgment Day will be there
because well, Damian Priest has moneyin the bank and looks like that could
be at least want to teach youthat it's in play. Maybe it is,
maybe it isn't. And we don'thave anything with Rihan Dom Doom on

(01:03:05):
the show, and Lord knows weneed them. Yeah, that's very true,
and I'm sure we'll get them insomeone. Maybe Dom will be in
the battle row. We don't reallyknow that. Yeah that's true. Yeah,
I can't get out of being focusedon the idea that Finn Balor wins
this thing, and then we havemonths and months worth of Damian Priest holding

(01:03:29):
that briefcase and Finn Balor being thechampion. I don't know if you've read
this. I read this, Ithink last week. Apparently there are people
in WW who want to make JudgmentDay the next Bloodline. Essentially, if
you do that, if that reportis correct, then that means you have
to have inner turmoil, you haveto have problems within the faction, because

(01:03:51):
that's what happened with the Bloodline.I think this is a perfect way to
do that. It's just more interestingthat way. The only thing that holds
me back is the idea that Sethwas positioned as the working Champion, and
he has been loud about this ininterviews. He said, you know,
they had introduced this because Roman wasn'tgoing to show up to how shows,
he wasn't going to be on TVeach week. I will do that,

(01:04:12):
I will defend this title. Andhe's done that, so it almost seems
like the title was created for Sethin some type of way, So it's
hard to think they move it offof him this quickly. But I just
think it's more interesting that Finn Balorwins. How about you? I agree,
It's what I wanted to see withRoman and Soltziko. I really wanted
Solo to win the money in thebank contract and just torment Roman without doing

(01:04:33):
anything, just by his presence holdingthat money in the bank briefcase while standing
behind a very paranoid Roman Range.We didn't get that we could get a
variation of that here with Balor andPriest. I can't rule out that there
will be a cash in, butI hope not, and I got to
give them a ton of credit.Finn Balor was so damn cold. I

(01:04:55):
didn't think that he could be arestore to this level, and he the
first time he faced Rawlins. Theykind of got me invested. But I
looked at it and thought, well, you know, of course that's going
to retain. But at least theymade this interesting this time around. I'm
like, Finnie Holler could win thischampionship and I'm okay with that, And
I didn't two months ago. Inever would have thought that I'd be saying
that. Yeah, I completely agree. It's not that Finn Balor doesn't have

(01:05:20):
the talent, by the way,either, it's it's I think that he's
been sort of he's been I hatethe word misused because everybody uses that and
pro wrestling talk anymore. But Ijust think, you know, he's been
kind of pushed away. They've heatedthis up somehow. They've heated him up
somehow. I think he would bea very good champion the story, of
course, you know, it's it'sold at this point that that seth rawlins

(01:05:42):
injured him and cost him. Youknow, that's that's the whole deal with
Finn Balor right now. But youcan easily shift that because Damian Priest has
the money in the bank briefcase,and this is going to be I mean,
from that point forward. The judgmentday is already one of the biggest
drawing things WWE has. This makesit. I think it takes it almost
to the top, considering the bloodlineis probably about to implode. Are you

(01:06:06):
wondering at all of they have aI mentioned Wade Show. I think they
have a mommy problem. That crowdwas really reacting to her as a baby
face on Monday, And it's nota bad problem to have. The thing
I threw out on Wade Show.I wouldn't mind seeing a double turn.
Dom gets a new mommy. RaquelRodriguez. Oh wow, Well, what

(01:06:31):
I think is going to ultimately happenin some form now that I think it
was this week the contract officially expiredwas Vicky Guerrero. I think Vicky Guerrero
comes through some god not the excuseme thing over and the first time I
hear it will be cute, andthen every time I after him like stop.
Well, if you're looking for anew mommy, you have the storyline

(01:06:51):
there with Dom. You know,I love Vicky stays home and be's a
better never. Hey, you saidit, man, I almost did bite
my tongue. It's not my business, but you're right about about them having
a problem. You could spin it, and I could see WB spinning it
too, where you say, well, you have Ria Ripley who's so over

(01:07:12):
I won't say over as a babyface, but they cheer her out of
the building and they boo Dom outof the building, and it's sort of
this odd couple thing, this Yinand yang thing that they can build off
of. I could see that insome form or another. At this point.
I can't see how they split themup. I really can't those two.
I mean, obviously there's been tensionbetween Finnbalor and Damian Priest in this

(01:07:34):
story for the last many weeks,But how the hell do you get out
of dom and Ria at this point. I don't know. Like I say,
he gets a new money. I'mnot saying it's going to happen here.
That's certainly not my prediction, butit's something I think if Ria's popularity
continues to grow and they just decide, well, we can't fight it anymore.
I think that is a fun alternative. Is because I just think Raquel

(01:07:57):
is a much better heal than shehas a baby face. Never I mean,
there's a baby face. She smiles, that's it, and she's finally
starting to show a little more thanthat now that she has a reason to
be angry with the Ripley character.But I just think she's a much better
Hugh Oh, I agree, Andright now her baby face character has no
character. She's never had any depthto her baby face character. My pushback,

(01:08:18):
though, would be I don't thinkRia Ripley is a great baby face.
You know, I didn't really thinkif you watch some of those early
NXT days like she I don't thinkshe was really set in the world on
fire with her baby face promos,like she's a baby fabe. Like really,
by the end of her running NXT. Yeah, I remember, shortly

(01:08:40):
before the pandemic going to see anNXT house show and I was really impressed
with the way she worked the crowdand everything else. It was like her
and Bianca around that show, andI'm like, man, these two have
really bright futures. Well that's theother thing too. We didn't get to
this with the women's title. Butwhat if Bianca turns. I could see
her getting the heel turn so shecould join the new hurt business, which
I hope has different name. Yeah, it has to have a different name.

(01:09:01):
I would hope the suit business.I guess they gave Dawkins a suit.
But yeah, I mean the JudgmentDay stuff I think is way far
down the line in terms of splittingthings up. But for now, I
think you gotta have you gotta haveFinn with the title. I don't know
what that means for Seth. Ireally don't. He doesn't need the title.

(01:09:23):
You know, he may want itand that may cause some tension.
Yeah, I can certainly see thatpossibility, but I think he's so over
with that song and everything else thatI think it. I mean, you
can always go back to him asthe champion. You can always like put
him in Roman on the same brand. They've been teasing us with that match
for it feels like an eternity andso yeah, I just he may want

(01:09:46):
it, but I don't feel likehe needs it. I think it makes
Balor like look if between these two, if Balor loses, it kind of
moves him back down where if Rawlinsloses, he still Seth Rollins. That's
true. I just don't know whohe works with, you know, like
does he work Maybe he works withDamian Priest. I don't know. It

(01:10:10):
seems to me there isn't a goodchallenger for Seth Rollins right now where wherever
he comes out of this, andalmost to the point where it's like do
we kick off in kind a programbetween Seth Rollins and all of Judgment Day.
Essentially, he's angry, He's goingto get his title back. It's
Damian Priest's fault that he lost,blah blah blah, it's Tom's fault.

(01:10:31):
Who knows, but there's some waythat he needs vengeance. I just say,
if he ends up losing clean inthe middle of the ring and that's
the end of that, I mean, does it go back to Matt riddle.
I don't know. Oh, Idon't, Yeah, I don't.
I don't think Rollins will lose clean. I have no, Yeah, that
would really surprise me. I meanthat polack Is is certainly a Baler guy,

(01:10:55):
but he's also a Rollins guy,and I think that could be damaging,
except just lost clean, especially whenyou have the money, the bank
contra or the briefcase out there,Rhadam, a priest, everything going on.
If there's yeah, if there's atitle change, I don't think it's
going to be a clean one twothree for Ball. Yeah, I hope
not. For his sake, Ihope not. And then to close things

(01:11:16):
out, tribal combat the undisputed WWUniversal Championship. Not only are they eputing
over that, but also who isthe tribal chief Roman Reigns facing jay Usa.
Yeah, yeah, I know that. I'm I'm down on the bloodline

(01:11:36):
and you're still high on them,so I don't want to be too critical.
I feel like, oh, goahead. I feel like I've been
too critical already with them. Butthere's one thing you left out when you
talked about the stipulation earlier. Yousaid it's a no DQ match, But
from what I understood tribal combat alsomeant nobody in the family could interfere.
See, That's what I wanted tomean, But I don't think it does

(01:12:00):
because they there was something on SmackDownwhere the broadcast team said Solo Chakoa could
play a big part in this,and I'm like, oh no, and
if it's if it is, wellyou're suggesting that again. That's what I
was hoping. They really needed tomake that clear, and they haven't,
because that adds it's it's a farmore interesting match to me if it's just

(01:12:20):
the ideas well, because it's tribalcombat, it's the family. Roman has
to tell Hayman and Solo can't haveyou there. I have to do this
on my own. That's just therules of tribal combat, the unwritten rules
whatever. But they haven't indicated that'swhat I was hoping it was, and
instead it's just another no DQ nocount outmatch. And hey, Jimmy,

(01:12:41):
it was those back to fight offSolo koa. Yeah, well that could
very well be it too. Yeah, I think it could all be a
non factor. I was looking forwardto that that stipulation in the sense that
I'm so tired of the shenanigans inthe Roman Reigns matches. It's it's so
formulaic now at this point, likelike you just see ref bump, you

(01:13:03):
go like fifteen minutes ref bump.Oh, Ref's back of wait another ref
bump. You're like twenty five minutesdeep into it, and it's it's just
so silly. It's it's so silly. So with I mean, I'm I'm
tempted. I'm truly tempted to sayjo so just because just because I don't

(01:13:25):
know, I mean, every youknow, there has there have been there
have been thoughts traded here and yonabout the fact that Roman Reigns is not
on the posters. I'm sure you'vebeen made aware of that for the paper
of the next three paper views afterSummerSlam, He's not on even the Survivor
series poster. I guess, sothe thought is maybe that means he loses

(01:13:50):
here. To me, I thinkthat WW is really leaning into playing with
the fan base in that sense.They've done that previously before under Paula Vac,
which is a lot of fun,and they could be doing that on
purpose to create doubt. But Igo back to my record Books argument I
made with Gunter like you, Ifyou want to rewrite the books, Roman's

(01:14:15):
got to keep the title, andI think he does here. What do
you think? Let me back upto what you said, because I can't
rule out that the poster thing isn'ta tell and I can't rule out that
it's not a swerve. Who thehell gets these posters? What are they
used for? Anyway? There wasa time when you see him it like

(01:14:35):
you go to the cable company topay your bill or something, and they
were all over the place. Imean, they make them, but what
are they actually for? Is ita really big deal? Like the Romans
not on there? You have toworry about that the peacock numbers for this
one. No, you're right,I agree with that. To me,

(01:14:55):
I guess I still have that oldI don't want to say old school mindset,
but I'm condition to put stock intoit, if that makes sense.
Yeah, And and and the postersthey I think they found a life on
social media in some way. Likewhen I see graphics, because I have
to. I have to deal withgraphics a lot more than I ever thought
I would. Over at the observer, like when I see the way people

(01:15:19):
are like even on the Collision posterfrom week to week, or like the
all in poster for instance, I'mtaking into a different company because I'm thinking,
well, this is kind of odd. And when I see these posters
for WWE and I see like theperson up front is Seth Rollins, It's
like, does this mean he's notgoing to lose the finback? I don't
know why, but that always makesme think in second guess triple guests everything

(01:15:44):
that I'm thinking, I'm I'm guessingif you're a relatively new wrestling fan,
or you've only been, or maybeyou're in your twenties or you're a young
person, you might not mean thatmuch to you, but to me it
does. I don't know if itmeans anything here. I could see them
just doing it to humor themselves.But when it comes to posters now,
it's not like you don't get astreet team anymore and physically go post a

(01:16:08):
thousand posters downtown. That doesn't happenthat much from what I understand, Like,
what do you guys make them forother than like the graphics that you
want to Obviously you're gonna have matchgraphics to for sure, the arena website,
your own website all that stuff.But yeah, I guess I am.
I've never really thought about it,but I'm kind of curious, like,
what are these actually for beyond thatI'm going with Roman to retain my

(01:16:31):
big thing, because there's been peoplegoing jus full circle, he's got to
be the guy that beats Roman andhave said it sounds nice, but I
think people are thinking about that momentand not thinking about what comes next.
And what comes next is jausso isyour champion? And yeah, I mean,
I just don't see him being basedof WWE type. Be a hell

(01:16:55):
of an upset, be a hellof a moment if they do it.
But I would see Jay as atransitional champion, and hey, you know,
if Roman is for whatever reason,I'm gonna miss three months. No,
no, that's a three month transitionalrain, even if he just ends
up dropping the title back to Roman. But I'm like you and thinking that
they do. They're pretty obsessed withthese the records that they're setting and everything

(01:17:15):
else. I'm gonna leave each closeto Hogan. Now, I don't think
he says or passed the Hogan rain, yet I could be mistaken on that
they're more into that than I am, but I mean it would be a
hell of a moment. But again, okay, it's it's Jus And I'm
not trying to talk shit about Jusbecause he's been terrific in his role.

(01:17:36):
But I just don't see ju soas long term base of this company.
I don't think they would see himthat way. So I have to go
Roman. But if it happens,I'll be enjoying it. You know,
it'd be a hell of a moment. Well, here's the other wrinkle about
the Jus argue man is if you'regonna work him with anybody coming out of

(01:17:59):
it, who's the lotal person whowould be solo Socoa? Yes, and
he's not. I mean, youcan't. He's been great in his role.
But people have to remember he wasan NXT for like last four months
or something before and he won Ithink the North American title and then a
week later relinquished it to get caughtup and run in it clashed at the
Castle, And since then he's donea great job doing that role. But

(01:18:23):
I don't think anybody on Earth thinkshe would be ready to be, you
know, vaulted into a main eventprogram with the World Champion that for all
the accolades and all the good thingsJosh's done, I don't think people would
view him, as you said,the face of the company. So then
you just got two people who,you know, should they or should they

(01:18:44):
not be in those positions. Ithink the Solo Sacoa thing is more important
than jaj has been there for awhile, but Sokoa has hardly been there
a year on the main roster.He's just not ready for that. And
that's the first logical opponent. Itjust doesn't work. So I mean,
you can line anybody up for Romanand it'll work, and including what I
think is something we still have proceedduring this Roman title ring the four way

(01:19:08):
something happens through Jay and Jimmy haveanother falling out, Roman and Solo have
a falling out. It's every manfor himself. I really hope we see
that at some point. You know, we saw Solo held his own and
the tag mash of the ad.I thought he did a hell of a
job. So in a four waysituation with those three kind of leading him
through, if he still needs thatman, would that be fun? It

(01:19:28):
would be and you could see somethinglike that. See this is the other
thing about this is why I thinkthe poster thing is sort of a red
herring. Survivor series. Is Taylormade for a story like this, you
know, if we're going to dothe sort of team thing, the branding
thing. I have no idea whatthey plan on doing. But when you
talk about the bloodline and everything that'sgoing on there, and they already labeled

(01:19:49):
something the civil war, it wouldbe a true civil war if all four
guys are on opposite ends at thecorners because of one reason or another,
and to me, that fits inperfect with Survivor series. Not to mention,
you know, maybe they get backon the same page and there's a
war games with them. Who knows, But but I just don't think you
take Roman completely out of the picturefor the next three months based on that

(01:20:13):
alone. You know, he's gotto still be around for something like that
to happen. So maybe that fouraway happens at Survivor Series, and maybe
it's the Royal Rumble. I don'tknow, but I'm with you. I
think that that should happen. Onefinal question before we call it a day
here. If this is it forCody and Brocks feud for now, even
what's next? For Cody. Yeah, I don't know. Do you start

(01:20:35):
to build do you start to buildhim back toward Roman? I don't know.
I actually got a kick out ofthe mini program with Dominic. I
read that you said, you know, you were of the belief Dominic should
get the cheap win. I totallyagreed with that. I thought that would
have been a lot of fun.You know. The first thing that comes

(01:20:55):
to mind when you ask me that, because it's not something I thought about
at all until right now. Butlet's say I was just complaining, who
does Seth move on to? Maybewe go back to Cody and Seth with
no title for some reason. Thething is is you can't turn Seth heel
because everybody's going to sing a song, so he's gonna be over no matter
what that it'll be the battle ofsongs between the Woes and the Oh that

(01:21:20):
was my singing debut on this podcast, but tremendous, I know, I
know, Yeah, I don't Idon't know. I don't know who Cody
moves on to. Maybe Broun Breakercomes up. We'll have to see.
Oh yeah, that'd be fun.I mean, I Randy Orton is healthy.
That's an obvious opponent for Cody giventheir history, right, and he's

(01:21:41):
rumored to come back, right,it seems like he's always rumored, and
then you know, then that's alwaysfollowed by he's not even close physically.
So I mean, I hope hecan. That'd be awesome. And then
Seth, I guess one fear,not that I wouldn't have some It's intriguing
in a weird way, but allthe bray Wyatt rumors, I don't want

(01:22:01):
who could Focus and Cody roads together. But if it's more of a gritty
ray Wyatt that comes back and theyleave the light shows and everything else behind,
that could be good. Well let'ssay this. We have two question
marks. One is Seth, oneis Cody, and then we have two
question mark returns, bray Wyatt andRandy Orton. If you could pick who

(01:22:23):
works with whom, oh, youknow, I think Randy and Cody because
of that history they have together.There's something about Seth and Randy again that
just even though Randy should be hotwhen he returns, it would feel a
little bit there and done. Thatthat said, I mean, if you're
Seth there, you're in a bighurry to work with Bray again. Because

(01:22:44):
last time you did it kind ofderailed your baby face run. But Seth
also seems like the type of guywho doesn't like having a stain on his
record, and he knows, likehe's talked about it in interviews, how
bad that match was and how badthat program was. I could see him
wanting redown Shin and making something workwith Bray Wyatt, and I think he
could. I think. I mean, like you said, the hocus Pocus

(01:23:04):
needs to go somewhere else, butI think it could work well. I
guess we will find out starting Saturdaynight. No guarantees we're gonna know what's
next for Cody coming out of thatmatch. But hey, the more we
talked about it, I'm gonna joinyou at Chicks and a Half. You
got me excited about this show withouteven trying calling They pay me. You
know, I'm on the w Wpay roll. Thank god. You better

(01:23:26):
not say that people. Somebody willlike take that sound. But here's what
he said. But call it anythingyou want to plug on your way out
the door. McGuire's mondays, there'sgonna be a lot to talk about,
I would think on Monday, comingout of Summerslamm, a lot to talk
about, and not even just that, but we're also what we're less than
a month away from all in andall out, so there's gonna be so
much. We didn't even get intoa w Hopefully I'll be back soon here

(01:23:49):
and we could talk more. Well, why don't we plan ahead and plan
for all in. If you're notbusy at that time, let's do it.
I'll be I'll be here all right, we'll continue your prediction streak.
You and I'll get together for allin and hell, maybe even all out.
We'll figure it out. But thankyou everybody for listening. Join me
for my live review of SummerSlam againon Saturday night at Pro Wrestling dot Net

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