December 13, 2024 • 31 mins
AG "All Go" Nelli is a fast rising star in New England. Having been trained by Paul Roma and Mario Mancini, Nelli talks about his experiences thus far in the wrestling world including Brad Baylor, battling it out with Patrick Saint, Killa Jay, Jeremy LaCroix, while speaking of his experiences with Corey Duke, Sylvain, Bloodsaw amongst others.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
What's going on? Everybody? This is the Pro Wrestling Wire podcast.
This is your host, Rick del Santo. Of course, you
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your podcast. This is Rick Delsando, obviously, and I am
here today with a fine young gentleman, great young wrestler,
(00:43):
very new to the business, a gen Nelly. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Nothing much, man can't complain. It's a great Friday afternoon.
Ready for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, yeah, me too, Me too, So tell me. I
just want to dive a little bit into your wrestling
career and your history. What made you inner wrestling in
the world of professional wrestling or professional wrestling as a whole,
as a as a youth. When did you discover the world?
I mean, you're still relatively young, So it.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Was two thousand and six, and just so, I didn't
really like sports as much when I was younger.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I even remember Helo was in two thousand six.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Let's say I was ten or twelve, and I heard
people talking about in the playground, and it just so
happened one night when I was surfing the TV I
found it and I remember I was watching the first
episode was Smacked Down two thousand and six. The main
event of the show was Cain versus mister Kennedy. They
were getting ready for Armageddon. So that's what kind of
(01:37):
sparked my interest, and I said, like, you know, I
can do this.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I would love to do this.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Fast forward a couple of years, I started doing amateur wrestling.
I did amateur wrestling in college, and you know, I
was ready to start a professional wrestling career. COVID hit
and you know, try it builds up some money for school.
And finally this year I decided to pull the trigger
and in April, I just started my FORFRIENDH wrestling career.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You how long did you wrestle for? Is that you
wrestled high school and college?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So ares the middle school, high school, and college, so
a little over ten years.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay, Wow, that's incredible. A lot of people don't know
this around the area unless I've spoken to them about this.
But I also have an amateur background that wrestled them
in school. Real well, yes, yes, you from I'm from Connecticut.
I am from Connecticut. Yeah, I wrestled for Amity High School.
So I don't know, if you're right out of Woodbridge,
it's kind of close to where the JCC is that
(02:30):
you've wrestled that recently, gotcha?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Gotcha?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah? Uh So how was that to you? What was
the experience as opposed to you know, you got interested
in amateur wrestling? Obviously it was nothing like what you
saw on TV some people. Some people go into it
not realizing that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
A lot of people.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I remember, I remember seeing Adolf Ziggler or Nick Navif
interview and he said the exact same thing where the
ropes and you know, I guess it was. It was shocking,
I guess, but you know, like I love amateur wrestling.
It definitely developed who I was today, definitely made me tough,
and it definitely got me in shape.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So that's why. But I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And you know, I before I wanted to start a
professionals career, I knew I could start at eighteen, but
I knew that my wrestling career wouldn't be finished unless
I did college wrestling.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Right right, A lot of professional wrestlers like say that.
I remember talking to Barry Horowitz and probably one of
the first interviews I've done for this podcast, and his
thing was he wanted to go the right way, so
he decided to start wrestling amateur so he can learn
the actual roots of professional wrestling and stuff like that.
So I gotta say when I did, I was in
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the best shape of my life as well. I was
not nearly as heavy as I am now, so I
was also, you know, that was what thirty years ago
as well, probably so thirty five maybe something around there.
So you obviously you've you've been training with Paul Roma,
Mario Mansini outside of Paradise Sally Pro Wrestling. You said
(04:05):
that you wanted to train but COVID hit So were
you looking at Paradise Sally during that time period or
was it were we looking somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I just kind of looked like what was in the area.
I remember Paradise was one of the first places I
did hit up. I think I hit up Test the Strength,
but Paradise just made more sense because it was closer.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
MH.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And honestly, I I love Paradise. I love testing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I met everyone at Test the Strength, so it's kind
of you know, I I've trained to test the Strength once,
you know, and I you know, I'm very friendly with
the guys who were there, so there's no hard feelings
to anyone, you know. But like I said, just because
of time wise, like you said, like I'm a busy person,
so just time wise, it made more sense for me
to go to Paradise, Sally, right, right.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I know that you you're a very busy guy. You're
working a lot from when I understand your shoot job,
right yep, so you don't get to get out there
as much. I think, let's you do have actual bookings
and stuff. How many days a week that are you
down there at the gym at Paradise, Sally?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Definitely three. I tried to get four, but recently it's
been three.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah. Were you familiar with Paul and Mario before you
went into the into that or did you have to
do your homework and learn who they were?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I mean, very honest, I did not know who they
were because for me, I think the earliest wrestling I
would maybe watching my own was like ninety five ninety four.
I know they were wrestling around that time, but it's
just still kind of like I was more familiar with,
Like I love for me, I love the attitude where
I love ruthless aggression. That's kind of more my style.
(05:42):
But you know, I did have to do my homework before, right, right.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah. I was a big fan of Paul's growing up.
I thought he was He was probably one of my
favorite wrestlers growing up, and now probably thirty some id
years later, getting to know him, it's pretty you know,
on a personal level, it's pretty interesting to h to
hear amazing stories in Mario too, Uh, to hear some
of the amazing stories of them traveling with the w
(06:11):
w F at that time period. So yeah, so you
got there, You've been working out how how what was
your first match?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
My first match was against kill a j.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
She Yeah, she needed the Yeah, they were they were
looking for people, and they asked if I wanted to
do it, and I said, of course, you know I
would do it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah. Uh So I tried to find that, and I
could have sworn that was your first match, but I
tried to go through the uh you know, I was
going through cage match and stuff like that to try
to gather up some of the matches, and I couldn't
find that listed, which is every other show is listed
except for that that you're on. Wow, that's the only one.
So what was it like working with kill A J.
(06:57):
I think that she's a very young, talented, talented young lady,
excuse me. I think that she's got a like a
lot of potential to to get out there and explode.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean she's already gone out there. She's gone to
yea me and she's gone to other shows too. Kill
is very very Yeah, Killa J is very tough. They
kill their name kill us in there for a reason. No,
she's always in a gym. She's pretty strong, you know,
like you saw her lift me up in that match,
Like I'm not the lightest guy, you know, So very impressive,
all very smart in the ring too, Like I very
(07:32):
much enjoyed working with her.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, and of course you were. That is at the
Armada Brewer Repairdise Sally runs there during the warmer weather,
uh during the year, and it's a it's a great
environment to uh to be out there and uh those
good shows like that out there during the summer. Jesus
forgot what I was gonna say. I'm sorry, So you
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got a chance to work Sylvan as well. September twenty eighth,
twenty twenty four. Sylvan is a he's kind of a
his character is a little bit weird, you know what
I mean. It's it's interesting. I think the uh he's
from the Forest of the Lost, but he is more
of a I don't know, like a powerhouse type of guy.
(08:19):
So you guys, you had to struggle a little bit
with him in a various ways because he has a
different style.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Than you, Sylvan, like I mean, like that was.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That was also a good match too, you know, because
like again, I'm now like myself, I'm going to be
a disadvantage in a lot in a lot of matches,
you know, so Sylvan. You know, I don't really train
with guys as Sylvan's side, so it was definitely a
good test of my strength, of my speed, of my
knowledge too, because he is a veteran too.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So I enjoyed working with Sylvan too.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That match was very very hard, very very very tough,
but we got through it.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
He he made me work. He made me work.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I didn't win the match, unfortunately, and well deserved as Silvan,
and He's gonna keep elevating. I mean, he hits a
King of Paradise for a reason, right right.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What influenced your style as far as being a professional
wrestler and you're giving a gear call ag Nelly, it's
all go. What influenced you in that? Then? What made
you choose that?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Paul Roma? I so I was.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I was thinking so so long of like what I
wanted to do, of what I wanted to do, and
Roma said, you're just all go, and like I was like, okay,
And I don't even even after months of this, I
still don't even know what all go is.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I still don't know, and this whole thing is.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Coming together, you know, Like I was just like when
I came out of a Go Sigde, people loved it,
you know, people like the chant. But my wrestling, for
my wrestling style, that's tough. Because Mario looked at me,
he said, well, you're short and small, you gotta fly,
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but you're also big and strong, so you gotta be
kind of a powerhouse. So it's a little bit if
the in between, you know, because I'm not I'm not
Corey Duke. I can't flip all over the place. But
also I'm not like Mooch. I'm I like Sylvan. I'm
not the strongest in the room, but I can still
pick you up right, So it's kind of like mixing
(10:34):
those styles together. It really has to go with what
match I'm in and who I'm going against and what's
gonna work in that match. I can't really just go
out there. And I think that's what I like about
my character is that I can do a little bit
of everything, which is going to help me grow, but
eventually it will help me find what style works for me.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
So I get to play a little round for a
bit of both.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Right now, right right. You mentioned a couple guys I
want to bring up because one of them, you know,
which is kind of a powerhouse as well, kind of
like a Sylvan. But he's got a he's a veteran,
he's been around, he's been around what fifteen years or so,
and he's got he's got a smart mind for the business,
very creative, gentleman. He's done a lot of the graphics
for me, so uh for this show and uh and
(11:16):
uh A very a great asset to the world of
professional wrestling, I think, And have you worked him yet
or no?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I have it, but I would definitely love to.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
He's worked every other rookie except for me, and I'm like,
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I think that's probably that's probably gonna come soon. Don't
forget you guys got a big show coming up January nineteenth.
I'm sure, yes, so I am.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I will.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I will be on that show and me and Jeremy
are going to finish it. We are both one and
one against each other. It is going to be the
best two out of three falls match.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Wow. Wow, that's gonna be. That's gonna be insane. Let's
talk about Jeremy Laquah. Yeah, he decided to try to
get on my case today in some Facebook comments about
my choices of music. And you know, he's a guy
that just sometimes doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut,
but for the most part, he is able to back
(12:08):
it up in the ring using that amateur style.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Jeremy is one of the youngest people on the PPW roster,
and I don't blame him. He's very, very confident, and
to be honest, you know, I'm almost ten years older
in him, and I wish I had his confidence. You
could go all over New England and I guarantee you
people know who he is because he's always showing up.
(12:34):
He's always ready to wrestle. Yeah, he will put every
He'll put wrestling before everything. And me starting off, I
wasn't I wasn't so so ready to put everything aside
to put wrestling first. But wrestling was definitely number one.
(12:55):
But he deserves a lot of credit. He puts on
fantastic matches. He's very knowledgeable, He's always looking for more information,
and it's like, you know, most people at nineteen aren't
willing to do the things that he does. You know,
they're not willing to stay up super super late. They're
not willing to do to travel everywhere.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
He's not the type of kid, you know who wants
to go out and like party every weekend. He's really
down to like become the best. And you can see it,
like we have other superstars like Brad Baylor twenty years
old ww ID and if Jeremy Custa things up, he's
gonna be one of the next you know, we're gonna
have some of the youngest people in the w E
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done because of all the hard work they put in.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, what do you think about Brad signing with the
wid I mean, that's a big feather in the camp
for Paradise, Sally.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
When I I've wrestled a lot of people, seen a
lot of people train, Brad knows what he's doing. Absolutely
enjoy watching Brad. I enjoy seeing Brad because it helps
me learn he's gonna be so great, so perfect. He's
(14:12):
just he knows he's ready for it, and he knows
he's gonna be a big superstar. But when you walk
up to Brad, he's gonna treat you just like a
normal person. Brad. Brad is very respectful, despite what you
might see in the ring. You know, he's got to
do what he's got to do to win. But I really,
(14:33):
really do think Brad is gonna be up there as
one of the best ever.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I think that his character is just that, it's a character.
If you get to sit down and talk with him
and hang out with him, he's not really that person,
you know what I mean that his character is, you know.
And I got to see him at many in Paradise.
I got lucky enough to be on commentary for that show,
and I've really enjoyed myself being part of that. And
he broke the news to me, you know, he had
(15:01):
signed and they hadn't announced it yet. And he is
just honestly his real life character. He's not personality, I
should say he's a very friendly young man, you know
what I mean. And once he's out there though, in
between those curtains in the ring, he's a completely different character.
And you know, it works.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I think Brad didn't hesitate too as soon as I
walk in. Brad didn't hesitate to come say hello. I mean,
Jesus like, great person, great d ring, you know, skills,
Brad's one of the best.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah. Absolutely, let's talk about you mentioned Corey Duke before.
He's another talented young wrestler that he's been on this
show before. Jeremy's been on actually all three of those guys.
Brad was on the show, you know, a couple of
years ago. It's probably actually that interview has the highest
numbers on my on my channel is the Brad Baylor interview,
which is just to me, that's incredible that you know.
(16:00):
But you know, Corey Duke is another guy that's he's
getting out there and he's, uh, he's working. I don't
know if there's something about him because he's working. I
think he has less matches than you. I could be wrong,
but he's been around probably around the same time as
you maybe, and uh, he's just act there like you wouldn't.
You couldn't tell just by watching him, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Me and Corey started pretty much at the exact same time.
We were the new boys on the street. And there's
just something about me and Corey that we're willing to
push each other because me and Corey, like we're not
the oldest, but we're not the youngest.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
We're both twenty seven, and we want this.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
We want this more than ever, and you know, we
don't want to wait till next year. I'm gonna be
twenty eight this year, he's gonna be twenty teon.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like, we don't want to wait. You know, we want
to keep crushing it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
We want to keep going going, and you know we
want to get that We want to get that contract,
you know, and we do whatever.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He had his first match like in a month or two.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That was crazy, and I was, and I'm not gonna lie,
was a little jealous, you know, because it's like we
both started together, and I thought, you know, you see
the stories you know, like seth Ron's and Daniel Brian
you know, started off and ringing honor then finally going
to wrestle media.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I think I think that's gonna be me.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And Corey potentially, you know, if we keep doing the
things that we do.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Amazing person.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
He's slowly transitioning into more of like a coach in
the more than just a wrestler. He's also like a coach.
He's helping out everyone. He's been helping with his brother
to get him ready, helping the younger talent too that
are coming in there. And I mean, look at him,
he's shredded. You know, if that's that's work too. You know,
you can wrestle as much as you want, but you know,
(17:39):
you gotta gotta be strong, you gotta be fast and
man like. You can see him flying all over the place,
and he's had some great, fantastic matches too. And I
know he wants to get in the ring with me eventually.
One time. We want to do a one on one.
I don't know when that's gonna happen, but hopefully soon.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah. I know somebody that was interested in you guys
pairing you guys up as a tag team. Would you
ever consider that?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But the issue he has his brother family comes first.
You know, before his brother got in, you know, we
did talk about it, and then his brother came and
you know, now it's kind of like just him, him
and his brother working together, and they I've seen them
working together.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
They're gonna be one of the best tag teams out there.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to his brother's Caleb. Correct, correct,
I'm looking forward to his brother's actual debut. He's he's
made a couple appearances. They're short, he's snuck in there
for a couple of minutes at a time. But yeah,
I'm looking forward to his debut. You got the opportunity
to take place in the Rumble in Paradise. It was
(18:44):
the first Rumble in a couple of years, so bringing
it back, what do you think of the big being
part of the Rumble? Man?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I think you know, you just hear certain type of
matches you get excited, Like I'm excited for two out
of three falls. I'm excited for Rumble because they're not
your typical type of matches and you have to go
in there with a different mindset. You have to go
in there with different skills, you know, because you can
have probably the best single matches ever, but your rumbles
(19:13):
you might need a little bit of works. Two at
three falls, you know, like this will be my first
one is gonna be very interesting experience. But I think,
you know, rumbles are always excited. You never know who's
gonna show up, you never know who's gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I love rumbles, you know, I think rumble. I think rumble.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The Royal Rumble season, it's one of the best seasons.
I think the Royal Rumble might be one of the
better things than rustleming I love Wrestlmingia, but the Royal
Ones is so exciting because you never know who's coming,
you never know who's gonna win. Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
The Royal Rumble is my favorite event of the year.
It's something that I look forward to.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I know, we had, like my son played basketball and
we had to go to like a family family dinner
last year, which was you know, all the parents and
stuff like that, and I sat there with my phone.
I'm watching Peacock during the Royal rum watching the Royal Rumble,
because wasn't it the home in time. It's like coming
to find out there was another parent that was doing
the same thing. So we kind of hung out and
the chatted about wrestling while everybody else is just talking
(20:08):
you know, basketball and stuff like that. So, you know,
the Royal Rumbles it's the kickoff to the really awesome
season and for ww you know, WrestleMania is the biggest
of the year. Royal Rumble to me is a close second.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Oh absolutely, yeah, I think yeah, I don't really know.
I think I would say, like you know, Russell Meane
is cool. You always get those big matches, but I think,
you know, the special matches World Rumble Money in the
Bank are just so fun to wash and enjoy.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah. Absolutely absolutely, Let's see what else. Okay, So at
Meniam Paradise, Like I said, I got to do a commentary.
You took place in a five man scramble match. What
was it like working to scramble? That was your your
first scramble.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Scrambles are so much fun because you get to like
team up with people, you get to work multiple people
at once, and it's again, it's just so many different styles.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We had me and Corey flying, We had you know,
dudes choke slamming me. We had we had battle spearing people.
We know, we had Kaiso throwing people around. It was
really really fun and I think that was one of
the best matches, you know, I've ever had. And to
be a fair it might be one of the best
matches I might have for a long time.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh wow, what do you think of You know, Chris
Battle's a very vital part of Paradise Sally Pro Wrestling.
He probably just one of the coaches down there still correct.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Mondays yes, mondays.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Mondays, Yeah, I've been down there when he's been sometimes
miss him. But you know, what's it like learning under him.
This is a guy that's been in the ring with
some some of the greats, like like Brian Danielson was
as well. I don't know if you've ever seen that
match before.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, but I remember when they were doing Brian Dawns's
farewell thing. Chris Battle was like, oh, that was my
match right there, that was my mask right there.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But wrestling is so so diverse. There's too many moves.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But he's like an encyclopedia of moves, and he's teaching
the moves that you need to know, you know, like
I don't need to do a four to fifty off
the rope.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You know. He's teaching us what we need to know.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
He's teaching us things that are going to protect us,
make us look good, and like just be able to
put on a match, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, Yeah, you made your debut for two other companies
that you know that I'm a part of one of them.
I actually wasn't able to make the event because of
prior family obligation in the Connecticut Extreme Wrestling, which is
now changing into the Connecticut Wrestling Federation. What was your
opinion on working there for the for the first time.
(22:41):
It's a different kind of product, but I think that
now they're rebranding and trying to go for like an
actual wrestling brand.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You know, different experience for me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I got to work with Dan the Man, and I
that was a huge, huge honor, you know, like I
don't know if you knew much. He's met me before
plenty of times, but too for like, you know, to
be like, hey, this guy's only had like a handful
of matches. You're gonna go up against him. And he
was so grateful, very respectful people. You know, we had
dread there, you know, mess some other nice people. You know,
(23:16):
you got to start somewhere.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, Uh, Dan is a wealth of knowledge. Having a
conversation with him about professional wrestling and its history. You know,
I didn't really know him too well until I worked
a show with him. Gosh two three years ago, and
you know, it's kind of a guy that I saw
around and and you know, heard of and stuff like that.
(23:38):
But we ended up having a basically a historic conversation
of like, you know, some of the earliest wrestling and
you know, and he's just and he understands professional wrestling,
you know what I mean. And and I think he's
an asset to the world of professional wrestling, especially around
here with working with guys such as yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
What you see in the is so different from what
you see backstage. It's the same thing with Brad Baylor.
He is, he carries himself, went well, He's very respectful.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I could talk about Dan forever, you know, like he
I saw him the next day at a different promotion
and he was like, hey, how you feel, you know,
like he was checking it on me. You know, gives
great feedback again, great knowledge.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
He's a locker room leader.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I I really enjoyed working with him and like to
have the honors to share a match with him again
at such a young such a young start.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I was very.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Grateful for that and I thank you for giving me,
like again a good match.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, so let me tell you about this. You're mentioned
this one. You made your debut for Coliseum Pro Wrestling,
which is my home base. I commentate for there, and
you got to go up against Patrick Saint, who's another
that guys. He's a lot bigger than you, and uh,
while you did put up a really good fight, didn't
work out out in your favor.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I when I'm You've seen me go to all these
wrestling shows. I've gone shows in Jersey, New York, mass
Rhode Island, Connecticut, whether I'm wrestling or not, And one
person I keep bumping into is Patrick saying, what a
phenomical character he is. He's just full of everything he wraps.
(25:24):
He looks like a million bucks man.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Pat.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I remember, like I DM Pat on the side, I've
never I haven't said told any wrestler, but I wanted
to wrestle him except for Pat, and I finally got
that opportunity, which was crazy because you know, there's a
lot of people want to wrestle, but you know Pat,
you know, he's just so interesting. He's so smart. You know,
he knows how to work the crowd. You know, he
(25:50):
knows how to get underneath your skin and stuff. And
again after the match, he gave me so much knowledge.
You know, and he was like listen, like, you know,
let's train some time, you know, Like again this community
we have in New England, like we're family here, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
No, that's why I don't mind.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Like if someone I remember, like someone would be asked
for like damn, I need money for some pizza, Like
I don't mind, bro, Like I'll pay for three dollars
for your slice. You need a ride home, you know,
I get someone to write home from the Legacy is
Timeless show, you know, like I drove on my boys
to that show. You know, I don't. I don't mind.
We're family. I'm gonna see you. I'm gonna see you
next week, I'm gonna see the week after. I'm gonna
keep seeing you, you know. And even if I do
(26:28):
go somewhere or you do go somewhere, I hope you
stay in contact.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
All right. What do you think about the scene in
New England right now? I mean, I think it's especially Connecticut.
I think I don't know how much you knew about
the independent scene in Connecticut prior to getting involved, But
in my experiences over the years, this is the most
active and on fire then it's ever been ever. And
(26:53):
you know, there's newer promotions continuing to pop up, which
is you know, run by positive people. You know, you
know Alex started Legacy at time is timeless. I think
last year that was Doc had started Pure Vanguard earlier
this year, which they're running a show tomorrow which I'm
really looking forward to that show. I'm going to be
in attendance for that one. You know, there's just it's
(27:16):
just a hot scene right now, especially in Connecticut. Connecticut
is on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
You know, do you did you see how many people
got id'd from New England a lot New England, Fried State.
It's incredible. And you see some of these people like
I'm I follow TJ. Crawford, He's going to England. Richard
Holliday's going to England. Fancy Ryan Clancy was just in Germany.
You know. E Obama's part of MLW. We have Miracle
(27:42):
Generation on GCW. Like, holy crap. Like this is such
a great place to be, a great place to be,
a great place to learn, you know, be a fan,
be a friend, you know, be a worker. You know,
this is just such an amazing place to be. The
talent here is the phenomenal. It doesn't matter how me
these guys go to w e AW New Japan or
(28:03):
wherever we're you gonna have so many other people ready
to take on that spot.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's phenomenal. When I when
literally because they kept announcing guys from for the ID program,
all of them at first were like New England guys.
I was like, are they just doing New England? Are
they just opening up like another Deep South or OVW
or what have you? Right here in New England? And
this is what's gonna happen, because I mean, being from
(28:30):
this area, I just thought it was like, holy shit,
it was amazing, you know, absolutely, yeah, yeah, So what
else do you have going on? What are you doing?
Why don't you tell us? You know, talking off air,
you told me what you were up to. Why don't
you just mentioned that this week and what you got
going on?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I'm always about opportunity. I saw that they posted for
w w LN. I think that's what it is. They're
down in Florida. They're having a game Sapolski and a
seal seminar and it's two days and I get to
learn from you know, from the from the uppers, you know,
I get to learn from the top budge, you know.
(29:08):
And I think that's one thing, you know, is like
when you're young, you're young, and you're new to this business,
like you just want to start right away. And again,
like I said, that's why I try to go to
practice three or four times a week. That's why I
try to go train at other schools. That's why I'm
always lifting. And Florida is far and it's not cheap.
So my flights at nine o'clock and I'm not going
(29:30):
to get to the twelve thirty. By the way, since
I'm being their next day, I still have to pay
for Friday night, which I think is BS. But you know,
it's a two day camp. This isn't like one of
those seminars. It's like two days, six hours and I
get to.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Learn so much. Why not, you know, why not.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Get that opportunity because this opportunity may not come again,
or it may not come again for a while. So
you know, I'm gonna end this year on a hot note.
Ten matches, four promotions, you know, wrestle in some New
England's biggest stars, trained with some of those biggest stars,
and I get to end it, you know, in Florida,
and who knows what's going to happen down there.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, well, I wish you the best of luck and
hope that you have a safe trip.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Thank you, Thank you, Ricky, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Uh why don't you tell everybody where they can find
you and where they could see you next? Obviously I
think that we mentioned it, but why don't you put
it out there again?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
January nineteenth, it will be a Cadillac Ranch Best two
at three Falls me versus jam Laclaw. I believe I
will be in the doing some other shows too. Actually,
I'll be in Nashville in February.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Congratulations. Who you work for in Nashville?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I have no idea. I am just falling bloodsaw.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Okay, right tell me bloodshall can tell me I'm wrestling
in India tomorrow, and I say, no worries, man, I
will see you there.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Let me ask you before we get out of here,
are you going to?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Are you traveling down with March in March to the
AIWF weekend.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I don't even know that was the thing. I hope
I do.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
All right, we'll talk more about that later. So uh, well,
good luck and I hope that you, uh you have
a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Mm hmmm,
What's going on? Everybody? This is the Pro Wrestling Wire podcast.
This is your host, Rick del Santo. Of course, you
can catch us each and every week here on Pro
Wrestling Wire dot Net, Helix Rock Radio right out of Pennsylvania,
and of course Apple, Spotify, YouTube and wherever you find
your podcast. This is Rick Delsando, obviously, and I am
here today with a fine young gentleman, great young wrestler,
(00:43):
very new to the business, a gen Nelly. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Nothing much, man can't complain. It's a great Friday afternoon.
Ready for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, yeah, me too, Me too, So tell me. I
just want to dive a little bit into your wrestling
career and your history. What made you inner wrestling in
the world of professional wrestling or professional wrestling as a whole,
as a as a youth. When did you discover the world?
I mean, you're still relatively young, So it.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Was two thousand and six, and just so, I didn't
really like sports as much when I was younger.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I even remember Helo was in two thousand six.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Let's say I was ten or twelve, and I heard
people talking about in the playground, and it just so
happened one night when I was surfing the TV I
found it and I remember I was watching the first
episode was Smacked Down two thousand and six. The main
event of the show was Cain versus mister Kennedy. They
were getting ready for Armageddon. So that's what kind of
(01:37):
sparked my interest, and I said, like, you know, I
can do this.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I would love to do this.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Fast forward a couple of years, I started doing amateur wrestling.
I did amateur wrestling in college, and you know, I
was ready to start a professional wrestling career. COVID hit
and you know, try it builds up some money for school.
And finally this year I decided to pull the trigger
and in April, I just started my FORFRIENDH wrestling career.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You how long did you wrestle for? Is that you
wrestled high school and college?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So ares the middle school, high school, and college, so
a little over ten years.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay, Wow, that's incredible. A lot of people don't know
this around the area unless I've spoken to them about this.
But I also have an amateur background that wrestled them
in school. Real well, yes, yes, you from I'm from Connecticut.
I am from Connecticut. Yeah, I wrestled for Amity High School.
So I don't know, if you're right out of Woodbridge,
it's kind of close to where the JCC is that
(02:30):
you've wrestled that recently, gotcha?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Gotcha?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah? Uh So how was that to you? What was
the experience as opposed to you know, you got interested
in amateur wrestling? Obviously it was nothing like what you
saw on TV some people. Some people go into it
not realizing that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
A lot of people.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I remember, I remember seeing Adolf Ziggler or Nick Navif
interview and he said the exact same thing where the
ropes and you know, I guess it was. It was shocking,
I guess, but you know, like I love amateur wrestling.
It definitely developed who I was today, definitely made me tough,
and it definitely got me in shape.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So that's why. But I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And you know, I before I wanted to start a
professionals career, I knew I could start at eighteen, but
I knew that my wrestling career wouldn't be finished unless
I did college wrestling.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Right right, A lot of professional wrestlers like say that.
I remember talking to Barry Horowitz and probably one of
the first interviews I've done for this podcast, and his
thing was he wanted to go the right way, so
he decided to start wrestling amateur so he can learn
the actual roots of professional wrestling and stuff like that.
So I gotta say when I did, I was in
(03:45):
the best shape of my life as well. I was
not nearly as heavy as I am now, so I
was also, you know, that was what thirty years ago
as well, probably so thirty five maybe something around there.
So you obviously you've you've been training with Paul Roma,
Mario Mansini outside of Paradise Sally Pro Wrestling. You said
(04:05):
that you wanted to train but COVID hit So were
you looking at Paradise Sally during that time period or
was it were we looking somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I just kind of looked like what was in the area.
I remember Paradise was one of the first places I
did hit up. I think I hit up Test the Strength,
but Paradise just made more sense because it was closer.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
MH.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And honestly, I I love Paradise. I love testing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I met everyone at Test the Strength, so it's kind
of you know, I I've trained to test the Strength once,
you know, and I you know, I'm very friendly with
the guys who were there, so there's no hard feelings
to anyone, you know. But like I said, just because
of time wise, like you said, like I'm a busy person,
so just time wise, it made more sense for me
to go to Paradise, Sally, right, right.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I know that you you're a very busy guy. You're
working a lot from when I understand your shoot job,
right yep, so you don't get to get out there
as much. I think, let's you do have actual bookings
and stuff. How many days a week that are you
down there at the gym at Paradise, Sally?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Definitely three. I tried to get four, but recently it's
been three.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah. Were you familiar with Paul and Mario before you
went into the into that or did you have to
do your homework and learn who they were?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I mean, very honest, I did not know who they
were because for me, I think the earliest wrestling I
would maybe watching my own was like ninety five ninety four.
I know they were wrestling around that time, but it's
just still kind of like I was more familiar with,
Like I love for me, I love the attitude where
I love ruthless aggression. That's kind of more my style.
(05:42):
But you know, I did have to do my homework before, right, right.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah. I was a big fan of Paul's growing up.
I thought he was He was probably one of my
favorite wrestlers growing up, and now probably thirty some id
years later, getting to know him, it's pretty you know,
on a personal level, it's pretty interesting to h to
hear amazing stories in Mario too, Uh, to hear some
of the amazing stories of them traveling with the w
(06:11):
w F at that time period. So yeah, so you
got there, You've been working out how how what was
your first match?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
My first match was against kill a j.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
She Yeah, she needed the Yeah, they were they were
looking for people, and they asked if I wanted to
do it, and I said, of course, you know I
would do it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah. Uh So I tried to find that, and I
could have sworn that was your first match, but I
tried to go through the uh you know, I was
going through cage match and stuff like that to try
to gather up some of the matches, and I couldn't
find that listed, which is every other show is listed
except for that that you're on. Wow, that's the only one.
So what was it like working with kill A J.
(06:57):
I think that she's a very young, talented, talented young lady,
excuse me. I think that she's got a like a
lot of potential to to get out there and explode.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean she's already gone out there. She's gone to
yea me and she's gone to other shows too. Kill
is very very Yeah, Killa J is very tough. They
kill their name kill us in there for a reason. No,
she's always in a gym. She's pretty strong, you know,
like you saw her lift me up in that match,
Like I'm not the lightest guy, you know, So very impressive,
all very smart in the ring too, Like I very
(07:32):
much enjoyed working with her.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, and of course you were. That is at the
Armada Brewer Repairdise Sally runs there during the warmer weather,
uh during the year, and it's a it's a great
environment to uh to be out there and uh those
good shows like that out there during the summer. Jesus
forgot what I was gonna say. I'm sorry, So you
(07:55):
got a chance to work Sylvan as well. September twenty eighth,
twenty twenty four. Sylvan is a he's kind of a
his character is a little bit weird, you know what
I mean. It's it's interesting. I think the uh he's
from the Forest of the Lost, but he is more
of a I don't know, like a powerhouse type of guy.
(08:19):
So you guys, you had to struggle a little bit
with him in a various ways because he has a
different style.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Than you, Sylvan, like I mean, like that was.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That was also a good match too, you know, because
like again, I'm now like myself, I'm going to be
a disadvantage in a lot in a lot of matches,
you know, so Sylvan. You know, I don't really train
with guys as Sylvan's side, so it was definitely a
good test of my strength, of my speed, of my
knowledge too, because he is a veteran too.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So I enjoyed working with Sylvan too.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That match was very very hard, very very very tough,
but we got through it.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
He he made me work. He made me work.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I didn't win the match, unfortunately, and well deserved as Silvan,
and He's gonna keep elevating. I mean, he hits a
King of Paradise for a reason, right right.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What influenced your style as far as being a professional
wrestler and you're giving a gear call ag Nelly, it's
all go. What influenced you in that? Then? What made
you choose that?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Paul Roma? I so I was.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I was thinking so so long of like what I
wanted to do, of what I wanted to do, and
Roma said, you're just all go, and like I was like, okay,
And I don't even even after months of this, I
still don't even know what all go is.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I still don't know, and this whole thing is.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Coming together, you know, Like I was just like when
I came out of a Go Sigde, people loved it,
you know, people like the chant. But my wrestling, for
my wrestling style, that's tough. Because Mario looked at me,
he said, well, you're short and small, you gotta fly,
(10:14):
but you're also big and strong, so you gotta be
kind of a powerhouse. So it's a little bit if
the in between, you know, because I'm not I'm not
Corey Duke. I can't flip all over the place. But
also I'm not like Mooch. I'm I like Sylvan. I'm
not the strongest in the room, but I can still
pick you up right, So it's kind of like mixing
(10:34):
those styles together. It really has to go with what
match I'm in and who I'm going against and what's
gonna work in that match. I can't really just go
out there. And I think that's what I like about
my character is that I can do a little bit
of everything, which is going to help me grow, but
eventually it will help me find what style works for me.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
So I get to play a little round for a
bit of both.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Right now, right right. You mentioned a couple guys I
want to bring up because one of them, you know,
which is kind of a powerhouse as well, kind of
like a Sylvan. But he's got a he's a veteran,
he's been around, he's been around what fifteen years or so,
and he's got he's got a smart mind for the business,
very creative, gentleman. He's done a lot of the graphics
for me, so uh for this show and uh and
(11:16):
uh A very a great asset to the world of
professional wrestling, I think, And have you worked him yet
or no?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I have it, but I would definitely love to.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
He's worked every other rookie except for me, and I'm like,
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I think that's probably that's probably gonna come soon. Don't
forget you guys got a big show coming up January nineteenth.
I'm sure, yes, so I am.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I will.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I will be on that show and me and Jeremy
are going to finish it. We are both one and
one against each other. It is going to be the
best two out of three falls match.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Wow. Wow, that's gonna be. That's gonna be insane. Let's
talk about Jeremy Laquah. Yeah, he decided to try to
get on my case today in some Facebook comments about
my choices of music. And you know, he's a guy
that just sometimes doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut,
but for the most part, he is able to back
(12:08):
it up in the ring using that amateur style.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Jeremy is one of the youngest people on the PPW roster,
and I don't blame him. He's very, very confident, and
to be honest, you know, I'm almost ten years older
in him, and I wish I had his confidence. You
could go all over New England and I guarantee you
people know who he is because he's always showing up.
(12:34):
He's always ready to wrestle. Yeah, he will put every
He'll put wrestling before everything. And me starting off, I
wasn't I wasn't so so ready to put everything aside
to put wrestling first. But wrestling was definitely number one.
(12:55):
But he deserves a lot of credit. He puts on
fantastic matches. He's very knowledgeable, He's always looking for more information,
and it's like, you know, most people at nineteen aren't
willing to do the things that he does. You know,
they're not willing to stay up super super late. They're
not willing to do to travel everywhere.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
He's not the type of kid, you know who wants
to go out and like party every weekend. He's really
down to like become the best. And you can see it,
like we have other superstars like Brad Baylor twenty years
old ww ID and if Jeremy Custa things up, he's
gonna be one of the next you know, we're gonna
have some of the youngest people in the w E
(13:38):
done because of all the hard work they put in.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, what do you think about Brad signing with the
wid I mean, that's a big feather in the camp
for Paradise, Sally.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
When I I've wrestled a lot of people, seen a
lot of people train, Brad knows what he's doing. Absolutely
enjoy watching Brad. I enjoy seeing Brad because it helps
me learn he's gonna be so great, so perfect. He's
(14:12):
just he knows he's ready for it, and he knows
he's gonna be a big superstar. But when you walk
up to Brad, he's gonna treat you just like a
normal person. Brad. Brad is very respectful, despite what you
might see in the ring. You know, he's got to
do what he's got to do to win. But I really,
(14:33):
really do think Brad is gonna be up there as
one of the best ever.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I think that his character is just that, it's a character.
If you get to sit down and talk with him
and hang out with him, he's not really that person,
you know what I mean that his character is, you know.
And I got to see him at many in Paradise.
I got lucky enough to be on commentary for that show,
and I've really enjoyed myself being part of that. And
he broke the news to me, you know, he had
(15:01):
signed and they hadn't announced it yet. And he is
just honestly his real life character. He's not personality, I
should say he's a very friendly young man, you know
what I mean. And once he's out there though, in
between those curtains in the ring, he's a completely different character.
And you know, it works.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I think Brad didn't hesitate too as soon as I
walk in. Brad didn't hesitate to come say hello. I mean,
Jesus like, great person, great d ring, you know, skills,
Brad's one of the best.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah. Absolutely, let's talk about you mentioned Corey Duke before.
He's another talented young wrestler that he's been on this
show before. Jeremy's been on actually all three of those guys.
Brad was on the show, you know, a couple of
years ago. It's probably actually that interview has the highest
numbers on my on my channel is the Brad Baylor interview,
which is just to me, that's incredible that you know.
(16:00):
But you know, Corey Duke is another guy that's he's
getting out there and he's, uh, he's working. I don't
know if there's something about him because he's working. I
think he has less matches than you. I could be wrong,
but he's been around probably around the same time as
you maybe, and uh, he's just act there like you wouldn't.
You couldn't tell just by watching him, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Me and Corey started pretty much at the exact same time.
We were the new boys on the street. And there's
just something about me and Corey that we're willing to
push each other because me and Corey, like we're not
the oldest, but we're not the youngest.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
We're both twenty seven, and we want this.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
We want this more than ever, and you know, we
don't want to wait till next year. I'm gonna be
twenty eight this year, he's gonna be twenty teon.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like, we don't want to wait. You know, we want
to keep crushing it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
We want to keep going going, and you know we
want to get that We want to get that contract,
you know, and we do whatever.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He had his first match like in a month or two.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That was crazy, and I was, and I'm not gonna lie,
was a little jealous, you know, because it's like we
both started together, and I thought, you know, you see
the stories you know, like seth Ron's and Daniel Brian
you know, started off and ringing honor then finally going
to wrestle media.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I think I think that's gonna be me.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And Corey potentially, you know, if we keep doing the
things that we do.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Amazing person.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
He's slowly transitioning into more of like a coach in
the more than just a wrestler. He's also like a coach.
He's helping out everyone. He's been helping with his brother
to get him ready, helping the younger talent too that
are coming in there. And I mean, look at him,
he's shredded. You know, if that's that's work too. You know,
you can wrestle as much as you want, but you know,
(17:39):
you gotta gotta be strong, you gotta be fast and
man like. You can see him flying all over the place,
and he's had some great, fantastic matches too. And I
know he wants to get in the ring with me eventually.
One time. We want to do a one on one.
I don't know when that's gonna happen, but hopefully soon.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah. I know somebody that was interested in you guys
pairing you guys up as a tag team. Would you
ever consider that?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But the issue he has his brother family comes first.
You know, before his brother got in, you know, we
did talk about it, and then his brother came and
you know, now it's kind of like just him, him
and his brother working together, and they I've seen them
working together.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
They're gonna be one of the best tag teams out there.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to his brother's Caleb. Correct, correct,
I'm looking forward to his brother's actual debut. He's he's
made a couple appearances. They're short, he's snuck in there
for a couple of minutes at a time. But yeah,
I'm looking forward to his debut. You got the opportunity
to take place in the Rumble in Paradise. It was
(18:44):
the first Rumble in a couple of years, so bringing
it back, what do you think of the big being
part of the Rumble? Man?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I think you know, you just hear certain type of
matches you get excited, Like I'm excited for two out
of three falls. I'm excited for Rumble because they're not
your typical type of matches and you have to go
in there with a different mindset. You have to go
in there with different skills, you know, because you can
have probably the best single matches ever, but your rumbles
(19:13):
you might need a little bit of works. Two at
three falls, you know, like this will be my first
one is gonna be very interesting experience. But I think,
you know, rumbles are always excited. You never know who's
gonna show up, you never know who's gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I love rumbles, you know, I think rumble. I think rumble.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The Royal Rumble season, it's one of the best seasons.
I think the Royal Rumble might be one of the
better things than rustleming I love Wrestlmingia, but the Royal
Ones is so exciting because you never know who's coming,
you never know who's gonna win. Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
The Royal Rumble is my favorite event of the year.
It's something that I look forward to.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I know, we had, like my son played basketball and
we had to go to like a family family dinner
last year, which was you know, all the parents and
stuff like that, and I sat there with my phone.
I'm watching Peacock during the Royal rum watching the Royal Rumble,
because wasn't it the home in time. It's like coming
to find out there was another parent that was doing
the same thing. So we kind of hung out and
the chatted about wrestling while everybody else is just talking
(20:08):
you know, basketball and stuff like that. So, you know,
the Royal Rumbles it's the kickoff to the really awesome
season and for ww you know, WrestleMania is the biggest
of the year. Royal Rumble to me is a close second.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Oh absolutely, yeah, I think yeah, I don't really know.
I think I would say, like you know, Russell Meane
is cool. You always get those big matches, but I think,
you know, the special matches World Rumble Money in the
Bank are just so fun to wash and enjoy.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah. Absolutely absolutely, Let's see what else. Okay, So at
Meniam Paradise, Like I said, I got to do a commentary.
You took place in a five man scramble match. What
was it like working to scramble? That was your your
first scramble.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Scrambles are so much fun because you get to like
team up with people, you get to work multiple people
at once, and it's again, it's just so many different styles.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We had me and Corey flying, We had you know,
dudes choke slamming me. We had we had battle spearing people.
We know, we had Kaiso throwing people around. It was
really really fun and I think that was one of
the best matches, you know, I've ever had. And to
be a fair it might be one of the best
matches I might have for a long time.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh wow, what do you think of You know, Chris
Battle's a very vital part of Paradise Sally Pro Wrestling.
He probably just one of the coaches down there still correct.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Mondays yes, mondays.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Mondays, Yeah, I've been down there when he's been sometimes
miss him. But you know, what's it like learning under him.
This is a guy that's been in the ring with
some some of the greats, like like Brian Danielson was
as well. I don't know if you've ever seen that
match before.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, but I remember when they were doing Brian Dawns's
farewell thing. Chris Battle was like, oh, that was my
match right there, that was my mask right there.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But wrestling is so so diverse. There's too many moves.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But he's like an encyclopedia of moves, and he's teaching
the moves that you need to know, you know, like
I don't need to do a four to fifty off
the rope.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You know. He's teaching us what we need to know.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
He's teaching us things that are going to protect us,
make us look good, and like just be able to
put on a match, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, Yeah, you made your debut for two other companies
that you know that I'm a part of one of them.
I actually wasn't able to make the event because of
prior family obligation in the Connecticut Extreme Wrestling, which is
now changing into the Connecticut Wrestling Federation. What was your
opinion on working there for the for the first time.
(22:41):
It's a different kind of product, but I think that
now they're rebranding and trying to go for like an
actual wrestling brand.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You know, different experience for me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I got to work with Dan the Man, and I
that was a huge, huge honor, you know, like I
don't know if you knew much. He's met me before
plenty of times, but too for like, you know, to
be like, hey, this guy's only had like a handful
of matches. You're gonna go up against him. And he
was so grateful, very respectful people. You know, we had
dread there, you know, mess some other nice people. You know,
(23:16):
you got to start somewhere.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, Uh, Dan is a wealth of knowledge. Having a
conversation with him about professional wrestling and its history. You know,
I didn't really know him too well until I worked
a show with him. Gosh two three years ago, and
you know, it's kind of a guy that I saw
around and and you know, heard of and stuff like that.
(23:38):
But we ended up having a basically a historic conversation
of like, you know, some of the earliest wrestling and
you know, and he's just and he understands professional wrestling,
you know what I mean. And and I think he's
an asset to the world of professional wrestling, especially around
here with working with guys such as yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
What you see in the is so different from what
you see backstage. It's the same thing with Brad Baylor.
He is, he carries himself, went well, He's very respectful.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I could talk about Dan forever, you know, like he
I saw him the next day at a different promotion
and he was like, hey, how you feel, you know,
like he was checking it on me. You know, gives
great feedback again, great knowledge.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
He's a locker room leader.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I I really enjoyed working with him and like to
have the honors to share a match with him again
at such a young such a young start.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I was very.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Grateful for that and I thank you for giving me,
like again a good match.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, so let me tell you about this. You're mentioned
this one. You made your debut for Coliseum Pro Wrestling,
which is my home base. I commentate for there, and
you got to go up against Patrick Saint, who's another
that guys. He's a lot bigger than you, and uh,
while you did put up a really good fight, didn't
work out out in your favor.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I when I'm You've seen me go to all these
wrestling shows. I've gone shows in Jersey, New York, mass
Rhode Island, Connecticut, whether I'm wrestling or not, And one
person I keep bumping into is Patrick saying, what a
phenomical character he is. He's just full of everything he wraps.
(25:24):
He looks like a million bucks man.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Pat.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I remember, like I DM Pat on the side, I've
never I haven't said told any wrestler, but I wanted
to wrestle him except for Pat, and I finally got
that opportunity, which was crazy because you know, there's a
lot of people want to wrestle, but you know Pat,
you know, he's just so interesting. He's so smart. You know,
he knows how to work the crowd. You know, he
(25:50):
knows how to get underneath your skin and stuff. And
again after the match, he gave me so much knowledge.
You know, and he was like listen, like, you know,
let's train some time, you know, Like again this community
we have in New England, like we're family here, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
No, that's why I don't mind.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Like if someone I remember, like someone would be asked
for like damn, I need money for some pizza, Like
I don't mind, bro, Like I'll pay for three dollars
for your slice. You need a ride home, you know,
I get someone to write home from the Legacy is
Timeless show, you know, like I drove on my boys
to that show. You know, I don't. I don't mind.
We're family. I'm gonna see you. I'm gonna see you
next week, I'm gonna see the week after. I'm gonna
keep seeing you, you know. And even if I do
(26:28):
go somewhere or you do go somewhere, I hope you
stay in contact.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
All right. What do you think about the scene in
New England right now? I mean, I think it's especially Connecticut.
I think I don't know how much you knew about
the independent scene in Connecticut prior to getting involved, But
in my experiences over the years, this is the most
active and on fire then it's ever been ever. And
(26:53):
you know, there's newer promotions continuing to pop up, which
is you know, run by positive people. You know, you
know Alex started Legacy at time is timeless. I think
last year that was Doc had started Pure Vanguard earlier
this year, which they're running a show tomorrow which I'm
really looking forward to that show. I'm going to be
in attendance for that one. You know, there's just it's
(27:16):
just a hot scene right now, especially in Connecticut. Connecticut
is on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
You know, do you did you see how many people
got id'd from New England a lot New England, Fried State.
It's incredible. And you see some of these people like
I'm I follow TJ. Crawford, He's going to England. Richard
Holliday's going to England. Fancy Ryan Clancy was just in Germany.
You know. E Obama's part of MLW. We have Miracle
(27:42):
Generation on GCW. Like, holy crap. Like this is such
a great place to be, a great place to be,
a great place to learn, you know, be a fan,
be a friend, you know, be a worker. You know,
this is just such an amazing place to be. The
talent here is the phenomenal. It doesn't matter how me
these guys go to w e AW New Japan or
(28:03):
wherever we're you gonna have so many other people ready
to take on that spot.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's phenomenal. When I when
literally because they kept announcing guys from for the ID program,
all of them at first were like New England guys.
I was like, are they just doing New England? Are
they just opening up like another Deep South or OVW
or what have you? Right here in New England? And
this is what's gonna happen, because I mean, being from
(28:30):
this area, I just thought it was like, holy shit,
it was amazing, you know, absolutely, yeah, yeah, So what
else do you have going on? What are you doing?
Why don't you tell us? You know, talking off air,
you told me what you were up to. Why don't
you just mentioned that this week and what you got
going on?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I'm always about opportunity. I saw that they posted for
w w LN. I think that's what it is. They're
down in Florida. They're having a game Sapolski and a
seal seminar and it's two days and I get to
learn from you know, from the from the uppers, you know,
I get to learn from the top budge, you know.
(29:08):
And I think that's one thing, you know, is like
when you're young, you're young, and you're new to this business,
like you just want to start right away. And again,
like I said, that's why I try to go to
practice three or four times a week. That's why I
try to go train at other schools. That's why I'm
always lifting. And Florida is far and it's not cheap.
So my flights at nine o'clock and I'm not going
(29:30):
to get to the twelve thirty. By the way, since
I'm being their next day, I still have to pay
for Friday night, which I think is BS. But you know,
it's a two day camp. This isn't like one of
those seminars. It's like two days, six hours and I
get to.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Learn so much. Why not, you know, why not.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Get that opportunity because this opportunity may not come again,
or it may not come again for a while. So
you know, I'm gonna end this year on a hot note.
Ten matches, four promotions, you know, wrestle in some New
England's biggest stars, trained with some of those biggest stars,
and I get to end it, you know, in Florida,
and who knows what's going to happen down there.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, well, I wish you the best of luck and
hope that you have a safe trip.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Thank you, Thank you, Ricky, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Uh why don't you tell everybody where they can find
you and where they could see you next? Obviously I
think that we mentioned it, but why don't you put
it out there again?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
January nineteenth, it will be a Cadillac Ranch Best two
at three Falls me versus jam Laclaw. I believe I
will be in the doing some other shows too. Actually,
I'll be in Nashville in February.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Congratulations. Who you work for in Nashville?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I have no idea. I am just falling bloodsaw.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Okay, right tell me bloodshall can tell me I'm wrestling
in India tomorrow, and I say, no worries, man, I
will see you there.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Let me ask you before we get out of here,
are you going to?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Are you traveling down with March in March to the
AIWF weekend.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I don't even know that was the thing. I hope
I do.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
All right, we'll talk more about that later. So uh, well,
good luck and I hope that you, uh you have
a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Mm hmmm,
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