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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome everybody to Pro Wrestling Wire Podcast, part of Pro
Wrestling Wire dot Net. This is rickadel Santo and joining
me today wrestling legend Bob Cook. How are you, sir, legend?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I like the sound of that. Not true, but I
like the sound of it. Well, that part is true.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I consider that you consider I mean, you've had quite
the legendary career in my eyes, I wrestled.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
A lot of legends, so if that counts for anything,
then I'll go with that one.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Let's talk about your beginnings. Is if your career, we
don't have to go that long if you don't want to,
but all time to do Yeah, well you you trained
under the great Malnko.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yes I did.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Let's talk about that a little bit.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, first of all, was awesome and I got lucky.
You know, back in those days nineteen eighty one, there
wasn't Google. When tax season came around, people didn't buy
a ring from Monster Rings dot Com and put it
in their backyard and start training people. So very limited
places to train. And I just happened to be coming
out of the Fort Homer Hesterly Armory in Tampa, where

(01:14):
they held wrestling every Tuesday night for like thirty years.
That's where Dory Funk Junior won the world title, where
Dusty Rhodes won the world title. That's the NWA World
Championship when it meant something. But I was coming out
of the Army one night, and I'd moved to Tampa
to become a wrestler after I graduated from high school.
I had no idea how he was going to do it.
And they used to tape the Championshipress and from Florida

(01:34):
TV show at the Sportatorium in Tampa for as long
as they ran shows of the Armory. And I went
there after a show and I asked an old wrestler's
name was Gordon Nelson, who was actually a legitimate badass
in wrestling. We would later become the guy who was
like the ring crew guy in WCW. And I asked
him how you become a wrestler and he said, well,

(01:55):
you got to be in really good shape and you
come in for a tryout, which in those days meant
did stretch you. You know, Luckily I didn't have to
go through there. You know, I was coming out of
the Armory that night. I know I'm rambling again. I
do that a lot on POSCA podcasts, and it was
a flyer on my car that said become a professional wrestler,
and it was for the Great Malincal School, and I
still have the flyer. Become a professionals a great Maleinkal

(02:17):
Wrestling Academy, make big money, travel the world, become a
TV star, and you know, none of that worked out.
But you know, I had a great time. I was
on TV, but I wasn't a star. I made a
little money, but not a lot, and I didn't travel
the world because I hated to fly.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I've never flown in my life. I'm gonna be fifty
years older. Never flown.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, yeah, but don't do it. There's been a lot
of plane crashes in the news lately. I don't like it. Yeah,
no way to go to Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
My wife's tried to get me to My wife's trying
to get me to travel. I refuse to fly. So
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, they always say that, well, you know, compared to
how many car accidents there are, blah blah blah. Yeah,
but when a car crashes, the airbag opens. When a
plane car crashes or the plane crashes, your body opens.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
You go flying from the plane. God as well in
piece of yeah exactly. So what was it like training
under the Great Malanko. I had a chance to interview
other people such as Barry Horowitz that that had trained
under him, and and some other such people. And Barry's
a great guy by the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and

(03:19):
he was the first guest on this show for almost
five years ago.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I could tell you a story about Barry and I
on the road work, but please, we were gonna get
we thought we were going to get killed.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Really yeah, please please tell that story.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
But the Great Malanco was awesome. I mean, he didn't
beat you up, he didn't stretch you even though he
could have, and he just taught you wrestling. You know,
every week he learned more, and every week you wanted
to learn more and come back. And that's the the
essence of him. You know, he did a lot of
trainers will beat you up and try to show your wrestlings.
Real lincol smartened me up in my time as nineteen

(03:55):
eighty one. What what anybody else says is their you know,
their story and experience. But he's smartened up the class
I was in very first day. You know, this is
a work, this is an art form. You know, the
object is make it look real without being real. Nobody
likes a crowbar for all you idiots out there, and
there's a lot of idiots out there. You realize that
because we're talking to wrestling fans, Well, they would say, oh,
lay it in more. It should be they should be stiff. No,

(04:15):
they shouldn't. You know. I wrestled some of the biggest
legends of all time, the toughest guys ever walked the planet, Haku,
the Steiners, the road Wars. You know what they never did.
They were never rough with me, and they never asked
me to hit them harder. Go figure it out, folks.
Any idiot can hit somebody too hard. Yeah, the art
of wrestling is to make it look real without being real.

(04:36):
Greatest puncher of all time is Jerry the King Law.
You know what you felt when he punched you. The
bump you took, That's what you felt. And the elation
that you got punched by the King.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Were you shocked when that he told you that it
was a work.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Not Well, yeah, I was actually relieved. You know. When
I was a kid, I watched, obviously watch the wrestling
started in seventy five. Getting hooked on I'm entire pressing
from Florida, and uh, in my mind, I wanted to
be a wrestling I did the backyard wrestling stuff. You know,
we copied what we saw on TV. We didn't do
it for real. We copied what we saw on TV
and what we thought it was about. And then when
we got there and found out that it wasn't one

(05:14):
hundred because I was never a tough guy. To me,
it just made it more fun. You know. It allowed
me as a as a young man, to never have
to grow up. That's how I looked at it, and
I used the fantasy world of wrestling to escape the
real world drama of life. You know, when I was
married and i'd leave the house to go to wrestling shows,
I didn't have marital problems. My kid didn't talk back

(05:36):
to me, I didn't have financial problems. I left them
all behind soon as I got in that car. And
back in those days, you know when you said I'll
be home Sunday and you left on Monday, you didn't
get a phone call two hours later said hey, what
are you going to be home? You know why because
we didn't have cell phones.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's why, going back and thinking about it, It's it's
crazy how how different the world was back then, right
even ten twenty years ago, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, And a lot of people say I wish I
could go back there, and I don't. The only thing
I wish I could go back there for is just
to be younger. The technology today is amazing. Just doing
this kind of stuff is fun for an old guy
like me to to talk about the past and talk
about the great Malinco. And then my case put him
over because he wasn't just a great wrestling trainer, he
was a friend. He was a mentor as a father
figure to me and all the guys that trained under him.

(06:24):
I love him. I talk about him as much as
I can, and at this is what I'm doing here.
We're into Twisted Wrestling studios here in Inglewood, Florida, when
my friend Joe Sarcinos put together an amazing little place
for all of us, and I'm trying to start training guys,
and I always talk about the Malinco. First thing I
do is talk about the Mallenco and Malnko. We trust

(06:45):
get it?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Do you talk about the twisted wrestling aligance there? I
understand that's a very big project that you're involved in.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, we're trying to make it bigger, and everything is
a slow building work in progress. You know, my friend
Joe Sarcino, who was sixty eight years old, started training
to be a pro wrestler at sixty years old.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
He did it with righteous intentions. He didn't do it
to feed his own ego. He did his young son
at the time, think he was eight years old, lost
his mother at a very young age, and they used
wrestling to bond, you know, going to shows, meeting the guys,
you know, because you could do all those meet and greets.
And then he was at a show in Sarasota, which
is right up the road from I don't know where
you live, but Sarah Soota, Florida.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I mean Fred Alman.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Fred Aultman had started a wrestling company called Legend Legendary
Wrestling Academy, and he was training guys and he was
running shows. And Fred's one of my best friends. He
started at a great medical school with I'm talking about
Fred Aultman, tug Bolt Typhoon, the Shockmaster. For all you
idiots out there, I did it again. I'm sorry. I
want to alienate the fans right.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
The first time I saw Fred, he was a big
steel man.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Right, the big He was a big steel man here
in Florida under Dusty back in eighty nine. Yeah, yep, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I live in Connecticut, and I used to be obsessed
with getting my hands on anything that was out there
at the time, magazines and videos and stuff like that.
I did a lot of teap trading, so I used
to get a lot of the video footage of your
area back in the day.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, to me, it was the best. But everybody thinks that,
you know, no matter where you lived, if you grew
up on certain things, that was the best, you know.
But I forgot what I was talking about. Oh the
wrestling here, Like like friend Joe he'd gone to that show.
I didn't know him at the time, and he'd gone
to that show with his son that Fred had put together.
Was at a local dog track and we're all there

(08:31):
hanging out and one of the trainers at fred school,
Frankie Reyes, was there, and Joe went up and asked him,
you know, what's the oldest guy you would train And
he said for what And I said and he said wrestling,
And he goes, well, I don't know how old are you?
And he said sixty, and Joe started training again to
keep his kid, you know, his mind off the passion
of his mother and you know, and to just help

(08:52):
him out through that time. And it actually made national news.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
That's incredible.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
But anyway, so he had an opportunity by this ring.
This ring actually belonged to Earthquake originally. He bought it
last year and it's just evolved into this old school
type studio that he set up. You know, we got it.
We're always adding new stuff to it, curtaining off different
areas to make it look you know what old school wrestling, right, Well,
of course you do. Yeah, yeah, like KI old Memphis

(09:17):
Territory had that studio look and lots of different places.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
But yeah, so you guys are your training people and
you're having are you recording there's a promotion associated with
the school.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, we're starting to do it. We ran a show
last month. We got another show on January eleventh where
the legendary Cuban assassin Fidel's Hire with his manager for Fantasy,
is teaming up with a guy named Chief Eddie two
Rivers against me and Joe with my beautiful vallet Delicious tea.
But that's all semantricks, is that what they call it.

(09:49):
I just like to put myself over because I'm going
to be in a ring with a Cuban assassin and
people should know who that is. You know, it was
top Gun in the Portland Territory. He had multiple world
title matches with the legendary Ric Flair and he's a great,
great wrestler and we've been friends for many years old
leave backstat met to be in this match. I can
let by Guns be by Guns as long as I

(10:10):
beat him next next weekend, Well, here's two weeks from now.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's a little scoop. He's going to be on the
show sometime in the future. Date date has not been
worked out as of yet. I know he had some
things going on, so I have to get back in
touch with him, and so I'm looking forward to that.
So if if.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's after January eleventh, it might have a couple of
black guys on him.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well, I'll have to see. I have to see.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
So uh, let's talk about the punch.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Well, I've heard a lot of people say that you
have the best punch in professional wrestling.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well that's what they say, But I said before the
greatest punch of all times, Jerry Kill Lawler. But everybody
has their opinions there too, but usually those opinions aren't
accurate anyways. You should be able to look at something
and say, well, that's the best of that, you know.
But you know who started that best of the best
punch and wrestle with Bill Watt?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
He started a lot. Yeah, he was very high on
you during his time in WCW, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, he was great and he actually had me teach
his son Eric Hot to throw a punch. But that's
the day he started that Bob Cook has the best
punch in wrestling. Because I just got done wrestling Van Hammer,
who by the way, is another great guy that I
talked to the other day. Just put myself over, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Because I believe that you're having a podcast, correct and
that your h you mentioned it.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, now you know he when I talked to him,
I actually was yesterday. I was at the gym. Yeah,
I go to the gym. I know, don't look like it.
But he called me and he apologized that he doesn't
want to do it now because he said every time
he goes I thought about it, and every time I
go back into public eye. All you do is get
the negative, you know, negative negativity from the fans and

(11:47):
from the wrestling media. And I said, we don't let
that bother. He goes, yeah, I just don't want to understand.
You know, people can be mean. Yeah, and he was,
and he's I've known him since he started. He was
a great guy. He had an opportunity given to him
and like a person with brains, which you know, someone said, hey,
i'll give you a hundred fifty thousand dollars a year.
You want to take it? No, I want to want
to do that. Of course you do.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
You take it right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
And you make the best of it. And people are
just so mean because they're either jealous or they didn't
get the same opportunities that he did. And that's on them,
not him. But I understand his trepidation. That's a big word.
I know, I don't even really know what it means,
but it sounds cool. I mean, he should come on
the show, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, he should be out there and get his story
out there and stuff like that, because I know he's
made the news in the past with some not so
positive but you know, you can't hold that against people,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, and I understand, but I was looking them up
with a guy who makes trading cards, custom trading cards
and they pay the people. They'll make us like a
certain number one hundred fifty two hundred and send them
to you to sign them, and they'll give you some
money and you send them back and I'm actually getting
a deal too. But that's what I was calling him
for as far as that goes. I made him get
him a little extra money and he won't even come
on the podcast. What's up with that? Mark? It's a

(12:58):
real name. Sorry?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, yeah, So let's talk about some some you started
in Florida obviously for Championship Wrestling from Florida. I was
looking up some of your matches. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I was just gonna say that was like first match
I had in Championship Pressing from Florida's nineteen eighty six
and I started in eighty one. So there was you
know a few years of wrestling, you know, for all
the independence and Malinko. Every once a while would find
a money, Mark, right, and he'd get a TV show started.
Like the first TV show I was ever on was
one that he started was called I w W a
wrestling which his great sons Joe and Dean.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I talked to Joe yesterday on the phone. There I
go see I'm ropping names. But I loved the movie and.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I saw that you had posted that he's getting inducted
into Florida MMA oh fame.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, and he invited me to be there, which I
will definitely do with a big smile on it, and
probably be wearing my Tererry Funk boots. That's what I
like to do. Anybody knows what those are then you know,
you know, But yeah, Joe's a great guy, Dean, but
they were all part of that first TV show that
I was, you know, involved in, and again it wasn't
until eighty six I wrestled for Championship pressing room floor

(14:04):
and that was one of the biggest thrills of my life,
you know, resting at the Sportatorium, which I didn't go
to very often as a kid, but I saw it
on TV every week, right and then going home that
nex because they taped on Wednesday mornings and then they
would air the original area and in our area on
Channel forty four WTG. I remember the names on seven
o'clock on Saturdays, and going home that night that week
and watching the show and Gordon solely called my match.

(14:28):
I was like, man, this is the coolest thing ever,
you know. And my dad, who never liked wrestling, he
never like, didn't dislike it because he thought it was fake,
like a lot of people, all that's ridiculous. He just
could never understand why you'd want to do that to
your body, because he saw what I went through going
to the Malincal school and again, Malncol didn't beat you up,
but the natural progression of the business is a rough business,

(14:49):
you know, taking the bumps, learning the moves, hitting the ropes,
you have bruises on your sides. And he'd seen me
come home after training exhausted and beat up, and you know,
he didn't like that. He couldn't understand the mentality of that.
But wrestled on Championship Pressing from Florida for the first
time he saw it, and he's like, I got a
mid so on that's pretty damn cool, just because you
knew how much I loved it, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, when you finally made it to TV, he was
excited for you. Yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Because that was more. You know, I was like syndicated
all over the state and actually in certain other states too,
like I think New York got yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, yeah, but it was a great time. Yeah, I
used to like that back in that day in the
eighties when the big eighties wrestling boom, we used to
for some reason, we used to get syndicated shows from
all over the country. Really, we got one class in
us w A or a w A rather and uh
you know the svoldis and stuff like that. We got
all sorts of stuff up here.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, you had that block of wrestling with like Pro
Wrestling Weekly with Joe Petasino and yeah, Gordon Sholley I
think was part of that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Bill Lapter was part of it as well, was part
of that, another great guy.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, it was a fun It was a fun time
because that show like chilled wrestling from all over the place.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Even I was on there a few times. Yeah, Like
I was getting beat up by Scott Hall. I think
it was like an eighty seven episode when he came
to Florida. Yeah, most money I ever made was wrestling
Scott Hall at the Orange Bowl in Miami in eighty
seven for the Great American Bash, like the second version
of the War Games match.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I was in.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I wasn't even supposed to be there, you know. A
couple of friends of mine went down there because we
wrestled for champions President from Florida, but we weren't booked
on the show. But it was a big, huge show.
It's Orange Bowl, so you just went there and you're
always taught to bring your stuff. And as soon as
I get there, Kevin Selvyn goes, Bobby, have you got
your stuff? And I was like, yeah, of course, cause
he always called me Bobby. I just took that out
and put that out there. But he said you got
your stuff and I said yeah. He goes, go get

(16:40):
it your wrestling Scott. I was like, whoa. It was awesome.
You know. The match only last like two minutes. One
of those things where you attack him Da da da
da da power slam Lake drop boom, that's it. Easy money. Yeah. Anyways,
I just threw that out there. Restled P Scott. He
was a cool guy.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, nice guy. I met him a couple of times.
I actually met him at an autograph sign at a
video arcade here up here in Connecticut many many years ago,
you know, and as he was raising romone. Nice guy, though, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh,
let's talk about you had a chance to work with
the Armstrongs and Tracy Smothers and uh in Florida at
one point. I'm a huge Armstrongs fan and Tracy Smothers man,

(17:17):
Let's talk about this a little bit.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, they were great. And also one time my Champians
Expressman from Florida, don't remember who my partners were. It
was me and two other guys against Bob Armstrong, Tracy
Smothers and Steve Armstrong and that was just fun, other
than the fact that I kicked Steve in the let's say, hey,
Nano nano by mistake. You know, I actually kicked him
like in the top of his penis, let's be correct,

(17:41):
because he was on the ropes to go to break
and I screwed my boot up and I kicked him,
and he get, oh, you kicked me in the know,
and of course he did. You know, nobody really holds grudges.
Like the first time I wrestled on Championship Press and
from Florida, I wrestled a guy named uh oh jeez,
Sean Royal okay, and I blacked his eye by mistake.
We had a really good match and I shot him

(18:03):
off the ropes and I was gonna give him a
knee to the gut. When I give him the need
to the gut, I brought my elbow up. I caught
him in the eye because for a brief second when
he falls down, you can see him he grabs his eye,
but then he starts sewing his gut. So I'm thinking
to myself, oh, well, that wasn't very good first time ever, right,
And you get back to the dressing room when I
was like, oh man, I'm still sorry to goes. It's
part of the business, you know. It's really cool about it.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
That was good that he was kind of relaxed about
it instead of getting mad about it.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, because I mean he was just starting to get
his big push and he could have been a real jerk.
And you know, he was really cool. We had a
lot of matches over the years. He was a really
nice guy. He's the guy who teamed with the Chris
Champion as a new breed back in the day, and
then they had that they had that accident that kind
of you know, shortened that deal. But and Chris is
another guy who was trained by the Great Malanko.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, yeah, you ended up going to Memphis for a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, that was you know, that was you talk about
the Southern Boys. That's what started that. Yeah, that was
an eighty.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Eighty seven according to my research.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, because it was literally two days after I got married,
oh wow. Because I got married on a Saturday. The
next day obviously was a Sunday, and I had to
drive down to Miami to do a TV taping for
a new company that was financial what do you call that?
Publicly traded for the first wrestling company's publicly traded called
Global Wrestling Alliance Okay, And we had Angela Poppa work

(19:24):
for as an Ox Baker, Adrian Street, and Lincoln was
involved in it. That's why I got my you know,
anytime Linco was involved in something, I always got an
extra rub, you know. And actually one of the guys
from that company, Bobby Whales, who wrestled for Florida Resident,
had passed away this week unfortunately. But anyways, uh, and
then the next day we drove to Memphis. My wife

(19:45):
and mom came with me. But the reason that happened
was because the original Southern Boys were supposed to work
to Memphis for this period of time, but they had
signed a deal, I don't know if it signed a deal,
but agreed to go work for Jim Crockett, you know
Jim Crockett. And so they couldn't make the Memphis dates.
And I had been sending out pictures to promoters and

(20:07):
at the time I had blonde hair briefly, and that's
one of the pictures I sent to Jerry Jarrett and
he called me and he goes, hey, we like the
way you look. We want to do this Southern boy.
I want to team me up with a guy named
a Bucky Sigler. Wow. And I didn't really know Bucky
at the time, but ended up meeting him into Lanta.
My mom and my wife came with me and we
met Bucky in Atlanta and then they followed me and

(20:27):
him to the Memphis Territory and it was only like
a two week thing and we got fired. You know,
I actually think it was it was Randy Hales who
fired me. He'sa liked you know, Bob. You gouts finish
up in a couple week. Weren't making any money anyways,
had a great time for the brief time I was there,
but ended up spending more money than I made. A
lot of fun time for only two weeks, but a

(20:47):
fun time with some great people.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Did he tell you where you were fired?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I think it was because they were the Southern Boys
were booked for a certain number of dates and we
just killed those dates and they were you know, or
I sucked. I don't know. I hate to be in
a baby face anyways. You know, like when we first
got there, it was me and Bucky. We go to
Jerry Jared's house and we're standing there in his living
room and he's like, this is how times have changed, right,
He goes, I want you guys to go to an
army surplus store and get some denim jackets and rebel flags.

(21:16):
Show them to the back of your jackets. And we
were the good guys. You know, Rebel flags in those
days weren't so offensible.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
It's amazing how time has changed, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I Mean, we got some flags hanging in here, and
I can go over there and I could. I could
try to cut my wrists with them, I could slap
them across my face as hard as I want, but
they won't hurt me at all. Imagine a flag not
being able to hurt you at all. But yet for
some reason, people get all crazy over a flag. It
doesn't matter what it symbolizes either. Yeah, it's just a
freaking flag.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah. I know people get offended by that and TV
and well, people are offended by everything these days.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Oh. I think some people actually wake up with a
list like, well, I was offended by that yesterday. Why
am I try to be offended by this? You know,
It's like it's like there's people watching Raw right now,
the last Raw in the USA network after thirty years,
and people are probably just sitting there going, oh, you know,
I can't believe they did this. You know, no one's
ever happy. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
People I did see today, so of course it's website
obviously associated with this podcast, so you know, I see
a lot of people. We did a preview of it,
and then I'm I'm looking online and there's so many
people complaining about the fact that they're not going to
purchase Netflix just to watch Raw. I'm just saying, how
many people have Netflix? I mean, it doesn't like I'm

(22:34):
not going to say everybody, but a good portion of
the human.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Space three hundred about three hundred million people worldwide have Netflix,
which is like four times the audience of Raw, like
the Raw when he reaches like seventy eight million or something,
but almost three hundred million to have Netflix and it's
only six ninety nine a month. I've actually seen people go,
I'm not going to pay for Netflix. I've had I've
watched Raw for years on my cable. I'm not paying

(22:59):
for Raw. I'm thinking, wait a minute, now, you got
some kind of secret where you get cable for free,
you idiot?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, that's you know, you're exactly right, because I was like,
you're paying for cable, you're still paying for.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
You're paying like what, probably ninety bucks a month for
cable and you're complaining about six nine and just don't
drink another pack of beer for a week and you'll
be fine. You're way off on a pack of cigarettes.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
You're lucky. If they're paying ninety dollars for cable, I
can't tell you what mine is, like close to two hundred.
It's crap.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
So that's even better, I mean, you know worse.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, it's just cable is just ridiculously high. Now that
of course, I myself don't use cable a lot. My
wife does, and she's kind to have of course every
streaming service on top of it.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
So yeah, but this was and the thing is, though, besides,
we're aw on Netflix. There's a lot of great programs
on Netflix. I mean a lot of awesome original movies,
old movies, original TV shows, documentaries. If you can't find
something to watch on Netflix, you're unable to be pleased
by any type of ruet experience.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
So it's worth these six ninety nine and I'm on folks,
just cook says, So, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Well, I mean, I don't care what people do, but
I had I've had Netflix for years. I mean, I
don't care what, you know. I think it'd be fun
to see how they do things on you know, I've
heard they're not going to get more edgy. People are
going to be complaining, Oh, they don't do this. You
don't need to go on there and cuss if you
can't get your point across, like aew like to throw
out the airport now and then not wort so much.
But you know, shit and different things every once in

(24:25):
a while. But they don't add to nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
No, it's just it's kind of childish if you ask me,
you know what I mean, them trying to be edgy
and cool, but it's like it doesn't add anything to
it really clearly.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's not building their audience, you know, and people complain about, well,
we're just going to be watching like the Tyson Fight,
you know, we're all going to be this and that
the Tyson Fight had over sixty million people trying to
stream it at one time, over one hundred million after
the thing aired. We're all is not going to have
that problem. They wish to even Triple H you mentioned
that he goes we wish we would have that problem.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
It's a lot different than it was at the peak
in like nineteen ninety nine or two thousand and one
or whatever when they were getting I think they're only
getting what one to two million viewers now currently, something
like like one point five something like that, but then
they were like five and six millions. So they're not
going to have that issue.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
And I think a lot of it is, you know, different,
they figure everything in. It's like who watched it live,
who watches it on you know, do the TV not
TV or whatever, you know whatever, Yeah, who watches the
YouTube videos? Who does this? It's all different ways to
watch wrestling or anything nowadays. But obviously we're all doing okay,
or they wouldn't have got a five billion dollar deal.

(25:38):
And people complain about that. It's like the NFL had
two games last week on Netflix. I don't watch football.
Body pay attention to these things. People complain like crazy,
I'm not paying for football, and I'm like, what, it's
six I told you. I was like six ninety nine
a month. If you care that much about the games,
pay it cancel afterwards, you know, I mean those go
to McDonald's once.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, there you go. There's there's a lot of way
that you can watch your sports. I mean, you know,
there's Peacock you know, Airs Live. I get Peacock free
through my cable. It's like, you know, we get the
five dollars tier to watch it. So I get to
washing WWE shows and you know, we watched the Olympics
through there because they weren't airing every single thing, you know,
on the regular cable TV. But so it's it's having

(26:20):
some of these It's like it's worth having Netflix, trust me.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
And I tuned into the football just to see if
there'd be any issues, and you know, probably more people
watch those games that are gonna watch raw and absolutely
the only thing I thought was weird is that Netflix
played up paid them one hundred and fifty million dollars
to air those two games, but as soon as they aired,
they were gone that day. It's like you couldn't even
go back and watch them in the replay, which is like,
if you're paying that kind of money, couldn't you think

(26:46):
they would have made a deal, like can't we just
keep them on a channel? But no, they had to
get rid of them. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
The other thing, the only thing that I'm really concerned
about with the Netflix deal is like the archive footage,
like the older stuff not necessarily going over yeah, because
you're here, and I mean I like to watch the
old stuff go back home too.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, but at least the network, as far as I
call it, the network still on peacocks. Yeah, you know,
got another year to go. But if you're outside the USA,
you're screwed. But if you notice there's a lot of
like you ever go to Netflix, you're looking like coming
this week, coming next week. There's a lot of ww
programming listed, like there's best of WrestleMania, and there's this
that that lot. I clicked on all those reminders, you know,

(27:25):
just to see how they go.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I I mean don't. I mean,
it's the power. There's also the power of YouTube, where
we could sit there and watch a lot of the
archive footage or lost that new channel.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
On YouTube, the ww vault you follow. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that's almost I think that's almost like they
had that set up knowing that this is gonna happen.
So they're gonna starting to put more on there because
that's got almost a million subscribers already.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, they've they've uploaded a lot of like rare stuff
to it so far, and it's some of it's not
like full of vents yet, but there's like you know,
like matches and clips and uh maybe our long TV
shows but whatever. But you know, I think there it's
also still in the tendency as well.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, again, I think it's all work in progress. But
I like the idea of the old network just because
you could, like you want to go back and watch
all the nitrols in order and conjunction with the pay
per views and all right there for you it's been
on Peacock, though it's a little harder to you have
to pay more attention to how to maneuver and get
the things, and the search is horrible. Like the old network,
you could put in Terry Funk and like everything that

(28:30):
has a Terry Funk segment on it shows up. Right,
that was the best. But that's you know, semantics, you know,
and all the you know, did I use that word
twice in this interview. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
You definitely did. Definitely did.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Myself.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, you're good, you're good.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
But there's yeah, just semetrics.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
A lot of stuff is like ww owns so much
archive footage from WCW Smoking Mountain and a lot of places. Yeah,
that hasn't even seen the light of day since owned it.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, you know they used to have before the network
they had to think called w w E four to seven, right,
I had that.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I was one of the first subscribing.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I recorded a lot of programming off of that back
in the day. And they always had a Florida segment,
different things. But you know, the network for the most
part was great invention. Yeah it first came out. So
that'd be sad to see if maybe Netflix will end
up putting more than people think. You know, everybody just
panics because when it moved from the regular network to Peacock.
People are like, oh no, we're not going to have this.

(29:30):
And then it took a little time, but they trickled
everything over.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, they said they were going to concentrate on like
the more current stuff, but they were putting it over
and then I think it took them six months to
get all of that stuff over. But I think that
a lot of it some of it didn't make it over,
but whatever. But I think that because the NBC thing,
like some of the stuff had to be censored, yeah,
which is pathetic, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, I know, I know, like there's certain I think
there's certain sell They actually will pause a video to
the chair shot. Someone was like, come on, you know,
but people are sensitive, notice, I guess.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, Well they took out the Roddy Piper Bad News
Brown match from Wrestleming. Oh really yeah, yeah, they edit
a lot of the music. They overdubbed like a lot
of music.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Well that's what I understand, because copyrights and people get
upset about that. To me, that's ridiculous because it's like
a such a smoog. You got a great match with
Shawn Michaels and Kurt Angle at Wrestleming or whatever. And
you're upset because the two many entrants doesn't have the
original music. It's like, shut up and watch the match.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
You know, some of it is kind of uh, like
I guess, mind boggling watching some of it, like Rick
Rude coming out to a different version of this theme song.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
You know, at the end of the end of the day,
who do you blame for that? Honestly, you don't blame NBC.
You don't blame ww You blame you and me and
people like us, not us because we watch it. You
blame the wrestling fans who didn't take the time to
watch the old footage. Because of all the footage, it's
the least watched, so there's no motivation. And if they
go back and go, well, this WCWS show only got

(31:03):
five hundred views, however, they come, sure they can track
that stuff. It doesn't get very many views. We're not
gonna pay so and so the rights to his music
for people who don't care. But if more people watched it,
they made more inclined to go, okay, we'll put it in.
I don't know. I'm just say I don't think the
the the.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Viewers are guys such as our age. I watched. All
I watched really for the most part is older rest.
Like I do keep up on the modern product, but
the majority of what I watch is going on YouTube
watching old worldwides and NWA pros and you know, a
w A stuff like all sorts of older stuff. And
they don't put any of that stuff up on the
network though they own the rights to it.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I watch all the shows every week man sort of,
you know, cause he's gonna record him and I go back.
I usually fast forward and through a lot, but I
always watched the pay per views of the plus as
are called.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, I watched WAT. I make sure to watch SmackDown,
and then I try to watch Raw, but it sometimes
it's you know, it depends because it's on like.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
So much repetition. So yeah, so much repetition, like the
same matches, the same feud. I mean, how long can
you keep it going? The same people? Like the New
Day would come out today and I was just like, hey,
I don't wish ill on anybody, but the guys have
had a job for years. Give it to somebody else,
you know, put somebody else in the spot.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
But that's just me, you know, No, I get it
because you get tired of seeing the same people over
and over.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
And you know, but I always watched the ples. They're
worth it.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
They even I've always watched. I really do enjoy the
live events, the ples, pay per views whatever. But and
especially as a bait, they've been a lot better.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I like the fact that they've cut down on the
matches and they give them more time to develop. And yeah,
you know, they don't go five hours. Not that I
never complained about that, because people who are like, oh,
I can't believe Russell Marin, you went five hours. What
else you gonna do. You're sitting in front of the
TV watching your hanging out, eating chips and drinking beer
whatever you do in my case ice cold mountain dew,
and you're like, oh, I can't believe it lasted so long.

(33:00):
But if it would have went shorter, you just switched
over and watched something else. Your fat ass ain't get
up doing nothing, just sit turn and shut up and
watch it. Imagine back in the day when you were
paying sixty or seventy dollars for the AHD version of
a WW show right if it ran, if it ran
less than three hours, people complained about it.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know, there were always two hours and forty five
minutes or.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, people complained about it, and it's like, if it
went two hours and thirty seven minutes, oh my god,
I can't believe, you know, so could you imagine complaining?
Then if it went four hours, you're like, oh my god,
I got more than my money's worth. Damn it. You know,
it's like, geez, shut up, it's just a TV show.
You're just sitting there watching.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, what else are you gonna do with with your
side Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Unless you got an open heart surgery schedule for the morning. Relaxed. Lord.
People are just so you know, of all the things
to complain about, you complain about a company giving you
more than you wanted.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
You know, and especially if it's on the like was
on the network or what have you? Because it was
nine ninety nine a month and where their events where? Yeah, yeah,
that was really six hours, include with the pre show
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, if people complain about that too, I can't believe.
It's a two hour pre show. Well, you know, there's
two things you can do. You can watch it or
you cannot watch it. Holy Macro, it's there for your
pleasure if you choose to take it, or you don't
have to choose to take it. That's the stupidest thing
ever to complain. The Pray shows two hours. We don't
watch it. I tune in when the show starts, using
because they don't even have extra matches now, so it's

(34:26):
just them talking to talking heads. It gives Biggie a
place to sit and make some money. And that's fine,
you know, it's nothing more than just chatter. And if
I'm lazier or not lazy, well I'm always lazy, that's
my m But if you're sitting there and just watch it.
But most time I just tune in. It doesn't bother.
I don't care if it's four hour pre show, it
doesn't mean you have to watch it.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's the point, right, there's always that remo. You can
put on something else in that two hours to watch
something else exactly and look up that time, right. I
usually tune in roughly a couple of minutes before because
I kind of miss the pre show matches. But they
weren't really ever anything special to write home about.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Really, No, it is weird that they just don't do it, though,
give a couple of pre show match I think more
people would tune in if you know it could be wrong.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
No, you're right, I mean it might get people hyped up.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I never know what's going on behind the scenes. What
they call it, the method to their madness. I don't know.
It's like people who complain and go, well, yeah, so
and so I should get pushed, this should happen, that
shit happened. If you don't know the true inner workings
of what's going on behind the scenes, you have no
right to say that. There could be all kinds of
things going on to keep someone from getting pushed, whether
they're being late all the time, they give an attitude

(35:39):
when they're asked to do something simple they can't grasp
something even simpler, and they're like, we can't push this guy.
He's not reliable, and you don't know that. You just
sit back and go, well, he's good because they saw
a great match. You know. It's like people complain about
Logan Paul the Kid's fantastic. He has more love and
passion and shows more respect to the business than most
people in it, especially the rest and fans watch it,

(35:59):
and yet they it man when he gets a push.
I'm like the guy's reliable. He's got more followers than
any wrestler out there individually and more than a lot
of them combined. So he brings an audience of his
own to his show.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
He's wild popular. Yeah, he's got millions of YouTube followers.
What does he have under his belt? Ten matches? Maybe,
maybe some, but they've all been good, fantastic performer. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Right, So if he until he does something to change
my mind, like all of a sudden, he gets an
attitude and well, I'm not going to lose to this guy,
or you know, he gets you know, gets an attitude backstage.
I say, you let the guy go, you know, I
don't mean let him go by fire, and I mean
he just let him play along, you know, as long
as he's willing.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah. No, I've been wildly impressed with him everything he's
gone so far. And you know, I think wrestling fans
are the worst critics.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I think, oh they are. Well, I mean, if he
came in out of shape and he didn't put any effort, okay,
you complain, But the guy's in amazing shape. He's got
an incredibly beautiful wife, which is always a plus. I
always like to throw it down there because I'm superficial
and if his wife was ugly, change my attitude and say,
what's he doing on TV? No, but you know what
I'm saying though he I mean, he shows up in shape.
He basically, I guess, does what he's told I don't know.

(37:07):
And he puts on a great match. Hell, they remember
that match for you almost saved Resterior from potentially being paralyzed.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yes, yes, no matter what you people.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, what it is is that people they they perceive
somebody as who they think they are based on the
persona they allow them to see without truly knowing the person.
And that's how they based their like or dislike on
a person. You know, like you'll see a character or
a person on a talk show who's nothing like there
in real life. And I was a sudden well, I
don't like that guy. He's just you know, it's just

(37:36):
what people do. It's like Jake Paul, I don't know
him in real life, but the guy's an amazing promoter.
Look what they do with Tyson Fit.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
He's a character and that's all he is. And it
got people to view and it got people invested. It's
the art of the the the art of promoting in
the art of how professional wrestling, you know, one on
one basically.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
And I don't care what anybody says, and I'm sure
you don't even agree, but I don't believe that Mike
Tyson fight was fixed. I believe they went out there
and it is. I don't believe it for a second,
because there's too much involved in that to be a work.
You can't do that. There's too much involved in that,
even legally you can't do. Because they took bets of
the damn thing they found out that was the work,
they'd be in so much freaking trouble. It doesn't matter

(38:18):
what people can think. They can say whatever they want.
Like there's some idiots out there to sit there who've
never done anything athletic in their lives and say football
is a work. But it would be impossible for football
to be a work. I'm not saying that a football
player didn't owe a bunch of money to a gangs,
journey through the game to make money up in a
big bet that no one else knew about. But there's
no way that football can be a work. Yeah, No,

(38:40):
I too many people involved, and there's too much pride
involved in the people who play it at every state
around the country that has a team. But to me,
I'm I'm not an arrested whos cynical and believes everything's
a work.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Too many people in the back in the day have
gotten in trouble for things like that, so I mean,
it's kind of uh, it's not but.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
It's usually a person. It's not an entire it's not
an organization. You know, these individuals like this referee and
basketball that have thrown a game, you know, but it's
not the players, not the whole conglomeration of the sports.
You know. Well, what do I know. I'm an old
guy who's probably gonna have a heart attack walking up
the steps after I get done here, but I'll still
have I'm laying there dying. They're calling the ambulance. Oh

(39:22):
have you got any last words? And say, yeah, the
only sport in the business it's the work, is wrestling.
You know. Angela Poffel told me even you know Angela Poffl, Yes,
he said, the only sport in the world that is
a true work is wrestling, because even in roller derby,
you at least have to know how to skate. Figure
that out, and roller derby was the work too back

(39:44):
in the day, but you at least had to know
how to skate. We're in wrestling.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
You don't have to know how to wrestle now, Yeah,
what do you think of Obviously we touched upon the
product today with the p Elie because they're usually pretty good.
But there's a big difference between watching wrestling when we
were younger than there is today.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Well, I think a lot of it has to do
it when you seem through seeing things through the eyes
of your youth, you see them differently. When I was
a kid, I liked Happy Days. If I watched Happy
Days today, I go the Fawns is like the most uncool,
effeminine guy I've ever seen in my life. But I
had a freaking picture of him on my wall. I
had the Fonnds on one side, Pharah Fawcett on the other,
and Evil coudn't. Evil took up all the other parts.

(40:26):
But you know, when you see things through the eyes
of youth, you're gonna have a different opinion of them.
That's why certain things like like well, I love Super
Mario when I was a kid, Yeah, you go play
it now. Compared to the video games they have now,
it doesn't hold it doesn't hold up. And that's not everything,
but a lot of things they just don't hold up.
Because you see things through the eyes of us, you
see them differently. You can go back and watch you

(40:48):
go back and watch old ww F wrestling from the seventies,
and you go, I don't have any idea how this
business survived, you know. I mean, you could have Bruno
against Billy Graham at the Madison Square Garden. It's a
crazy bloodbath up and down. And then you could have
freaking Haystacks Calhoun against the wolf Man, and you're like,
what the hell's going on? You know, it's like even

(41:10):
Championship President from Florida. There's an old episode called called
from seventy six and like one of the matches the
guy named Great Mefisto against some guy Haystack Calhoun. I
go back to him against two guys. Haystacks could have
barely get in a ring, let alone, should have been
in the ring, and he's resting two guys and didn't
know how to lace up their boots. But at least
they had boots, which is unlike a lot of guys today,
which is just horrible. Then you had these other guys crap, crap,

(41:33):
But then the last match on the show was Steve
Carnig and is Bob Wharton Junior And you thought you
saw the greatest thing you ever saw because they were fantastic.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
You know, so every era has good, bad, great, and sad.
You know, that's that's the reality even today, still presented different.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah. One of the things that aggravates me is is
like every wrestaurant has kick pads on their boots now.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Pretty much, not all of them, but you know the
ones that hat boots, so I like most of them
would have wear a kickpass just wearing a little Siddley
tennis shoes or wrestling shoes or something.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, like like amateur wrestling shoes and stuff. Like a
lot of times it's that it's kind of weird if
you ask me.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's I don't know. The first thing Malinko said when
I started training was you got to get yourself some boots.
And I couldn't wait as a kid who loved wrestling,
and here I am training to be a wrestler and
I got to be able to order real pro wrestling boots. Yeah,
I couldn't wait till I got them. And I used
to wear them all over the place, you know, trying
to break them in and you know, so I can't

(42:27):
understand the mentality of not wanting to wear wrestling boots, right,
But at the same time, if you're working for an
organization that doesn't care about that stuff and it's not
high on your priorities, you're not going to change. You know.
Let's say we go back to punches. So many guys
today can't even throw a punch, so she shouldn't be
doing it. But they do it on National TV and
it's just like every week it's an expose a on

(42:48):
the business and people get mad at Eddie Mansfield for
what he did back in Edy five, which is ridiculous
because every single week they're exposing the business by some
of the crap they do. And by the way, Edie's
a great guy. In case you were going to attack
me because he's a friend of mine, I was. Some
people do like, oh, that guy's an idiots, like he's
a great guy.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Now I'm I'm a fan of Eddie Mansfield. I've communicated
him with a little bit through social media and yeah,
I watched his uh television product though it was iw
F yeah, I worked for him.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, yeah, I was the punisher. I wore a mask.
I was the punisher.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I used to watch that every week on Sports Channel America.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
You know what, Yeah, you know it's funny. They used
to tape that out of Orlando. But it's funny. One
Saturday morning, I used to work for a company here
in Florida called sun Coast Pro Wrestling. Again. It was
started by the Great Mancos run by a guy named
Henry rains Or owned by a guy named and Malinko
called me. It was like an eighty nine. He goes, Bow,
We're going to start a new company called sun Coast
Pro wrest and I want you to be the top
heel and I want you to be the Mass Superstar,

(43:45):
you know, the real Mass Superstar.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
And people have always complained, would complain when they find
out that, oh, you ripped off Billy. No, I didn't.
The Great milcol called me and asked me if I
wanted to be part of a TV show, and he
wanted me to be the Mass Superstar. I'm not going
to say no. The Great manco If he came back
today from the and said, Bob, I want you to
help me bury your body guess what, I'd grab a shovel. Okay,
that's what I would do. So he asked me to
be the Mass Superstar, and I was the Mass Superstar

(44:08):
and I was feud with his son Dean, who in
my opinion, is the greatest I've ever been in a
ring with, and we had some amazing matchup. But the
whole point of the story is Geez I lost track
of while I was Oh, here it is goes back
to Eddie Mansfield. I wore this Mass Superstar mass in
this outfit and then on WCW, you know, it's going
up and doing the TV show TV. I hate to
use the term jobber because I hate that term, but

(44:29):
I was going up and doing TV. And one Saturday morning,
I was on the Sun Coast Pro Wrestling show at
seven in the morning as the Mass Superstar. At eight o'clock,
I was on Eddie Mansfield show as the Punisher, wearing
the same outfit that I wore as the Mass Superstar,
including the mask. And then at nine o'clock I was
wrestling Tom Zinc as Bob Cook on Pro NWA Pro,

(44:51):
wearing the same outfit but without the mask. I just
thought that was a cool story. Three different shows, three
different characters, all wearing the same outfit. Give me on
the applause. It was awesome. There you go. Who can
say that? Probably nobody? Yeah, No, matter why I wrestled
in those three matches, I didn't get hurt at all
other than a bumping. I mean, what I'm saying is
nobody hurt me. No stiffness, no, no, you know, no, no,

(45:13):
no real fighting.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
What do you think of Tom Zang?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Speaking of which, Oh Tom was awesome. Yeah, yeah, he
was awesome. I sad that he passed away so young,
but I'm sure he had his personal problems. But to
me personally, he was always cool. To me. He always
walked by me, and you go, Bob Cook, why But uh,
I'd sit with him at the bar and in Atlanta
once a while. He just sit there and he'd drink
his little drink and andy. He would talk the whole

(45:37):
night as Dusty Roads, you know, given them drink baby,
you know. But Tom was great in the ring, one
of the best I thought I ever wrestled in the ring.
Super smooth, super easy, light, sell my punches whatever. And uh,
I like to always tell the story of the night
that Van Vader broke the kids back. Joe Thurman, I
was I was the next match out against Tom z In,

(45:58):
so you know that kid got his back from and
I'm wrestling Tom's link, which was you know what they
call the proverbial night off in the restling business. And
after that, Vader brooke that kids back. He came back
to the curtain. He was sitting on the ground. He
was crying, and I'm sitting there thinking, why is this
fat bastard crying because I hated Vader? He was such
a jerk. Says he crying because he's finally gonna get
fired after being repeatedly told to stop hurting guys. Or

(46:21):
is he crying because he actually has feelings for the
guy he might have just crippled. I kind of think
it was the first one final thought he was going
to get fired. I can't say. But the funniest part
about that story is like later that night, we're all
standing around the hallway, you know, all oficer dress and
they come out and they're like, Vader's match is too brutal,
We're not gonna be able to air it. We need
to redo it. And you could just see people scatter

(46:43):
like roaches because nobody wanted to step up and volunteer
to wrestle him, right, And I was standing by a
payphone number payphones. I grabbed the the what do they
call those things, the receiver, A receiver. Yeah, I grabbed
it and put it to my ear and turned my
back to the oor, face to the wall, and like
I was talking to somebody because I didn't want to
be the next victim with Vader Lucky. I never had

(47:06):
to wrestle him. And it was a Jody Hamilton. It
was the assassin, you know. But he was the guy
who handled the TV matches, and he told me, don't
worry about You're never gonna have to work with that
fat bastard. And I thank Jody for that. When I
saw him a few years ago to FanFest in Tampa,
I said, I want to thank you again for never
making me work with that fat bastard. But now he's
no longer here. You there, But Jody was a great guy. Yeah.

(47:27):
I know, I get crazy. I start talking these silliness.
People are gonna hate me because I talk bad about Vader.
But I always hear that he was a jerk. What
are you gonna do? People say he shouldn't talk ill
of the dead. Here's the rules to life. If you're
a good person in life and you die, you could
be spoke up as that good person in life just
as easily as you could be spoke up as the
asshole you were before you died as an asshole after death.

(47:51):
An asshole in life is an asshole in death. And
I don't care what you say.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
That makes sense. That makes sense. Did you ever you
never worked for Jody like in Deep South?

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Did you? No?

Speaker 3 (48:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
No, Probably would have been fun though. I know his son,
Nick's a great guy, Nick Patrick, Jody Hamilton.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, he restarted in the company. I've went back not
so long ago and watched a bunch of bunch of
old videos on YouTube of the older Deep South from
the eighties, and I got to tell you it was phenomenal, phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Joy I think he was on the right. Is the
Assassin a lot?

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, he was a great He was a great talker
and a great for former wrestler, worker, whatever you want
to call him in his day. I'm talking about the Assassin,
by the way.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yes, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
People people watching now go who's the Assassin? Anybody who
doesn't know the wrestling history now is a pathetic overbear.
And I'm not just pick face bastard, because you have
more access to knowing the history of wrestling than you
ever did in life. And if you're in the resting
business and you don't know, get out of the rest
of business because you should know, because you should want
to know.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
That's all I do is that is all I do,
is study wrestling history where you're no.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
But I am a me on this show somebody.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I am at pro wrestling television.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
You want to be as I got a ring right here.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
I am a pro wrestling television commentator in the podcast, Yes,
I host. Yeah, Oh, maybe I'll come to Florida. I'll
be in North Carolina during the springtime for AIWF.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I was in North Carolina last year. Was this year
April twentieth, Me and George South wrestled Tommy Wilde for
Rich and Ricky Morton. She there I go again, bragging.
But hey man, those are legends.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
No, no, no, no, see, I have that match listed
in my notes here, and I was just about to
ask you about that. Let's talk about that because I
met Tommy Wance, I met Rickey once, uh never met George. Yeah,
that's what I hear. But Tommy's an awesome guy. I
was wearing a Dusty Road shirt when I met him,
and that I think got him and then he just

(49:56):
was like the nicest kind in the world.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. He was really part of
the original boom of the cable television back in the
early eighties, which Georgia Championshpress and became World chap. You know,
he was a big star at that time.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Tommy, well, he is one of the best.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Beat Harley Race for the world title.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
For God's sakes, I know, you great, great, great professional wrestler.
And you know that few that he had with buzz Sawyer.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Oh, even though buzz Saw was a jerk in real life.
Again he falls into the category of Vader. But the
matches they had him and Tommy Man fantastic. You know.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
One of the things with going back to the ww
network that we were talking about, they finally found that
Last Battle of Atlanta and they had the original network
and they looked over to when they moved over to Peacock.
They didn't even include that. They just didn't turn back to.
They put it up on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Okay, not them, but it's on YouTube. The sad part
about that matches all the years that became a mythical match,
and the best part of the match was actually the
match with Paul eller In and Oli at the end
was the most ye they got, the crowd, the bass,
and because the match is self compared to their other matches,
and I think a lot of it has to do
with that building it up to this mythical match. And

(51:11):
you saw the pictures on the magazines of the blood
and the cage, You're like, oh my god, and then
when you finally saw the match, you're like, oh jeez,
it was okay.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
You know, That's exactly how I felt.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Right, Sometimes things are better off left to the memory
or the or the hype.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, when we uh when when they finally uploaded, I
got so excited about it because I heard about it
for decades and then I watched it, I was like, God,
there really wasn't that great?

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, And then only in them did their thing. I
was like, what, they're getting more of a reaction than buzzing,
And that's not taking anything away from them, I guess
because they had so many great matches and who knows,
their buzz is probably hung over or something for the match.
I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
He did a lot of stuff from what I heard, Well,
he did drive a drug overdose.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, yeah, you want me to tell you how how
like the buzz Sawyer was? Please? When do you he
died in nineteen ninety two. I'm not going to say
the name because I actually liked the guy very much
and he's always been very respectful to me. The person,
the wrestler. We're in a dressing room and the person
I'm talking about came into dressing room and someone, hey, man,
did you hear buzz So buzz Sawyer died? And he goes, well,
really well, I got to take a piss. Where's his grave?

(52:18):
So that I should tell you how well like buzz was?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Wow, that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
So that goes back to an ASSHOLEE live an ASSHOLEE? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yeah, I've heard he was. I've heard you know he
was what he owned a wrestling school or whatever. Yeah,
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
What he would do is he would go to areas
like rip people off in one area the alienade them
go to another.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I guess his brother Brett, who I was friends with
sort of in the eighties when he wrestled here in Florida.
But he turned on me at the end. I don't
know why. He was a psycho at the end. Really,
he sent me a picture once with him just shooting
me birds there, see you, Bob, and I was like, well,
so I set pictures back shooting him birds, and then
I blocked him.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
We were I was trying to do a podcast with him,
and this was just a few days before he passed,
and he was running some sort of connection issues, so
we said, all right, we'll just come back in a
couple of days and try it out again. Next thing,
you know.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, I saw some of his podcasts and that they
all had connection issues. This had the most biggest connection issue.
I remember some of those podcasts. He's talking about how
well the Undertaker and Ron Anderson better quit talking about
my brother. And I'm thinking, well, first of all, they're
only speaking the truth. And second of all, what are
you going to do about it? If you did beat?
I mean, even Arn Anderson at his age, it's going
to stretch. Uh. You know, Brett Sawyer, people are gonna go, well,

(53:36):
Bob Cook, I don't even know who he is, but
he's talking bad about all these legends. Well you know what, again,
if they're not nice people, they don't deserve to be
spoke of nicely.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yes, I get you again.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Again Again, we go back to this, like everybody, you know,
it's over almost eight billion people on Earth, and everybody
has different experiences with everybody. So when I say something
about somebody that's not necessarily cutting stones that they're that
type of person, these are my own interactions. I just
want to make that clear. Like I was friends with
the legendary Evil Knievels, something I'm very proud of, and
he didn't always treat people the best, but he treated

(54:10):
me and my wife and my son like freaking gold.
Anytime he would call me, he was like, is your
son around? He's like, yeah, let me talk to him.
He talked to him and I said, what do you want?
Afterwards he goes, well, you just seen how I'm doing
school and he told me to stay away from drugs,
and you did this and that because that's the way
he was. But there's other people who had interactions with
Evil that weren't on the same level as mine that
will speak ill of him. So again, it's my experiences

(54:31):
that I'm sharing with people who go, hey, who is
this fat paster? With a grubby beard. Well, first of all,
I'm getting ready for homelessness. Okay, I want to prepare early.
But I'm just being honest. I'm not gonna say Vader
was this and that if he wasn't you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Right? I was a huge Evil Canievel fan as a kid.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I had that toy you want to you know, and
you can still buy those two. By the way, they
make new ones. They're awesome. It's the same type box
and everything awesome. I'll send you the link for him.
I'll send you, please, please do please.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
You mentioned the gentleman that's is I've considered my favorite
professional wrestler ever since I discovered him, Arn Anderson. Let's
talk about Arn a little bit. What's your experiences with Arn?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Arne was always cool to me and even today, like
he does his podcast and he's put me over in
his podcast several times, which I thanked him. Actually last
last year or last year, yeah, last year when I
saw him at a fan fest in Jacksonville. He's always
put over my punch in different things. And I wrestled
Arn at the Greensboro Coliseum in nineteen eighty nine, and

(55:36):
I always when I would go in the dressing room.
I'd always find the best I could, a spot in
a corner, you know, out of the way whatever. And
on this particular I was sitting behind some lockers and
Arne was dressing on the other side, and I heard
Flair walked up and he said, who you got tonight?
And he goes, I working with Bob Cook. And Flair said, oh,
he's a really good hand. You should have a good
match in. Arn goes, yes he is. And they didn't

(55:57):
know I heard that, and I'm back there. They they could, Man,
I can't believe they said that. Maybe feel like a
million bucks, you know, that's really cool. But our has
always been cool. And I got to meet his son
last year. He's very, very respectful kid.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, he's doing a lot and how too in the business.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
It's too bad that he was working for Awn. But
I guess, you know, you get there comes a point
where the money's not worth the aggravation, you know, if
you have enough money. I guess to me, it's worth
the aggravation for making good money. I put up with
a lot of things for good money.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Let me tell you, well, AW is a weird product
because it's like they don't. They'll They'll put you on
TV for two three months and then all of a
sudden you disappear. You're just sitting at home and you
don't know what.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
A lot of time. You know, it's weird, But they
got so many people, you know, it's crazy they need
to if they could fire, probably fire fifty people and
you wouldn't even realize they were there, let alone gone.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Yeah, they have probably the largest rostering professional wrestling because
they keep adding people and not really firing people or
you know, letting.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
For me, the weirdest thing, the weirdest thing to me
about AEW is they let their top stars work little
crappy indie shows and show up here and there. Why
would you do that if if they're if they're paying
them good money. I wouldn't let my guys do that.
They could get hurt doing some crappy indie show and
not be able to be there for me for my
big pay per view. You know.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Yeah. I think it's happened a couple of times too,
hasn't it? People getting hurt out?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, but I don't understand. I don't know the logistics
of their contracts, and you know, so who knows. I'm
just sitting here saying what I see.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, they're working one day a week or whatever, so
then they're doing indies on the weekends, going to Japan
and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
So ye see, I wouldn't do that if I was
making good money, I wouldn't do that. Why would you
do that?

Speaker 1 (57:31):
If it's part I mean, I don't know, you get
extra money.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
So it's like you got fans complaining about how I
can't believe the w CW or WCW. What am I
thinking of the WCW. The WW is cutting down on
house shows next month. I'm like, do you know the
wrestlers are probably loving it. You know, we could do
TV a couple of house shows here and there, but
not every night or every other night. You know, not
only are they going to have longer careers, or even

(57:54):
if they don't have longer careers, they're going to have
a better after life. And I'm not talking about after
they die. Like people were complaining like Roman ruins wildly
over wrestles. Well, guess what if Hawk Hogan would have
done two thousand less lake drops, he wouldn't have had
to have two hip replacements, knee replacements, and he wouldn't
barely be able to walk today, even though he still
looks great because he's in shape, looks like he's in shape,
but he has problems walking. That wouldn't probably be his

(58:16):
issue if he would have done two thousand less late drops.
So if Roman Rain's not working every night, he may
be able to get down on his knees and play
with his grandkids when he's fifty or something. You know,
why is that a bad thing?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
He also didn't see I mean Hogan on TV as much.
You you probably saw him on TV spare.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah, but he was still working a lot of house
shows back in the day. Yeah, and he didn't know about.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
And house show business is down as well. Nobody cares
really cares about how shows like the fans well you know, yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
If you follow this account on X called Wrestle Ticks, yes,
they give you the run down of all the shows.
I mean this weekend, WW did good all over there?
You know they had almost ten thousand and where was it?
Where was it Orlando for a house the same in Baltimore,
the same nights and you know, certainly not nowhere's near

(59:05):
as down as it was. What I was wrestling for
him in ninety four or ninety five.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Let's talk about the going to WWF here in the
nineteen ninety four you said, right, nineteen five I met
ninety five. Yeah, yeah, so you went out there in
nineteen ninety five. What made you leave WCW to go
over there.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Well, actually I had a little issue with somebody there,
but that's some I won't say who it is. We're friends,
we made up a long time ago, right, But uh,
I got a call from Jimmy Backlan, who was Jimmy
Delray teamed with Tom Pritchard back in the day as
the Heavenly Bodies with Jim Cornett and Jimmy just called me.
He said, hey, Bob, you want to do WWFTV. And

(59:43):
I was like, yeah, sure, that's it. And WWA paid more.
Even though I hate to fly, they flew you. So
you got to the show. They were into your cars,
paid for your hotels. Not the WCW didn't do that,
but they didn't fly everywhere. Right, But that's how I
got in there, just a call from Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
And how long did you last there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Two years? Not only like a year? Yeah, for me,
it was more. I just got sick of being in
pain all the time and getting hurt all the time.
And I had have I was able to get an
easy job, doing an airport level job, and I was like, oh,
this is so much easy and dropping all over the country.
I'm still driving, still carrying my luggage, but someone else's

(01:00:26):
that didn't have for like fourteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
So you basically retired from professional wrestling after you left WWF, No,
just the TV stuff, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Still I'm still I'm going to show January eleventh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Right here, that's right. Yeah, so you're still already.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I already mentioned that I don't put my friend Joe over,
remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
So you're still pretty active in the world of professional
wrestling with the Twisted Wrestling Alliance.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Now, I am. I was living in Tennessee for a
while with Fred Autman and his wife. Okay, and then
I had an opportunity to come back to Florida. Let's
just say, okay, and and this has worked out great.
And Joe's put this thing together, which is amazing, and
there's always adding things to it, just making it better
and better, you know. And what I we're trying to

(01:01:10):
start a rest in school. We have people that say
I'm gonna show up. I'll be there. Then there's excuses.
After skin I realized that Bob Cook's not you know,
I'm not Ricky Steambo, and I'm not going to be
able to show you how to do the arm drug.
I can show you how to take an arm drive
because Steamboat was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
But I mean, I hang around at the Paradise Alley
Pro Wrestling School. That's what I'm a part of. It's
with Mario Mario and Paul Roma, you know what I mean.
So you know I've I've done commentary for their live streams,
so you know they were they weren't a really good
school over there. So there's nights there a lot of
people will show up, and some nights it's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
A yeah, yeah, that's always the way it is. I
never met Mario in person, but we've great got friends
on We're friends on Facebook, and I did his podcast
he seeh It seems like a really nice guy. And
I love the name Paradise Alley. I'm hoping it's based
on the movie right, it has to go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Well that's his favorite movie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Well mine too, it's my favorite wrestling movie. I can't
say it's my favorite movie, but favorite wrestling movie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
I watched Terry Fronk first time this year because based
on that I found it and uh I actually, you know,
finally watched it, and it's a It's not a bad movie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
No, I mean, you know, they portray wrestling as serious,
but it's still a great movie. And you know that
you know all the you know, all the legends that
were in there, and the little clips where the Dottles,
Montage and Harley Rays and Dory and Teddy Biassi. I
mean it's a huge list. Ray Stevens, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
But Terry Funk is my favorite wrestler of all time
and the reason I wanted to be a wrestler and

(01:02:39):
the reason you can't see it, but I'm wearing an
ear ring right there. That's because of Terry Funk.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Well, Terry Funk is that you caught me on and
off day. I wear my Terry Funk shirt several times
a week.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
So I wore that yesterday. I did my Cooker's podcast, which,
by the way, I haven't mentioned, but I started doing
that here at the studio because you know, we're trying
to figure it. You know, it's again work in progress,
and I have my Terry Funk boots On and Terry
Funk Suret and we beat some guys. But if you
go back and watch the clip, you're not supposed to
see if I got leaked to the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
So let's talk about your podcast a little bit. You
started this podcast when.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Only like what three weeks ago, Okay, And the thing is,
I was just like sitting here and going, you know,
I should do a podcast because I'm not comfortable on
camera just because of the way I look. You know,
I have self esteem issues and self confident issue. I'm
trying to work on it by going to the gym
and coming home and drinking too much mountain doing eating
chicken tenders. But but uh so we just decided to

(01:03:37):
do it, and we've had it's been fun. You know,
some are better than others. And you know, I interviewed
an old friend from WCW, Robbie Ido, on the first one,
and we had so much fun back in the day together,
and uh the Southern Posse here in Florida, which is
the famous tag team who also did a lot of WCW.
Go back to Vader. We talked about that story where Vader,
I like to say busted Rick Thames nose from the posse,

(01:03:59):
but made his nose blood. He wouldn't sell it. I
took embellish. He bloodies your nose. Tell people it's broken.
Come on, play along for God's sake. Well they call
it in Bellis, they call it emvelishment.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Right, embellishment, Yeah, right, Like when.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
I wrestled it the Orange Ball in Miami, there was
like twenty thousand when I tell the story, now forty
and forty two. There would have been more, but some
old lady fell from the upper deck and they took
her out on the stretcher.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
When does your podcast? When does it drop? Weekly?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
We try to do it Sunday's after Sunday afternoons, and
then it gets up sometime later that day. You know,
you just upload it to our YouTube channel and the
Facebook page. You know. It just slow. Again, it's a
slow build, and I don't really know what I'm doing,
you know, because I want to get guys. I'll get
guys on an adventure where you're doing like this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
You have the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
You know the video this, Well, we're doing video, but
we we're doing only with people who can be here
live in person, you know, sitting there in the ring
with our little chairs, our director chairs and what event
because I like to get Cactus Jack on this show
if I could, and other people that I know in
the business, like Brian Blair and different people that, but
they probably wouldn't want to come all the way to
you know, the studio. Joe Malinkle, Joe Minkle and who

(01:05:12):
Joe milnkle is. Ye, brother, that's right, of course, He's
agreed to come here sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
So I would love to get in touch with him
if I have no idea how, but they did talk
that if you could send him to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Him on the phone. Yes, let me see if I
can still talk to him again. I can tell him
you want to do him? Have him on spot? Got
me flushed it over here? Joe, my friend, Joe's sitting
there playing on his phone. He's just watching porn. It's innocent,
it's all right. I can say who's watching, but might
get me in trouble. I'm just kidding about that. Don't listen.
But uh what was I saying?

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Uh talking about Joe?

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yeah? Yeah, I can tell Joe you want to be
on or you want him to be on your podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Yeah? Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
I can't say he'll do it, but I can say Hey,
this guy wants to be on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
You never know. You never know. You also are very
heavily involved. You see, if I can see, it's getting
tongue tied. The Califlower Alley Club, that's tread.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
I am the social media coordinator. Yeah. And Brian Blair,
who is also like I mentioned earlier, is a great friend,
but he's the president of the club. We got Medusa
who works on the board of directors who's also a
great lady, and several other people involved. And that's a
great organization for anybody who out there who doesn't know
you go to Califlower Alleyclub dot org and you can
become a member. Anybody can become a member, fans and

(01:06:29):
wrestlers and personally. And I think any wrestler who's not
a member should be ashamed of themselves because what it is,
it's it's a business, ark business. The organization gives back
to people. I'm not going to be ashamed. They helped
me during times when the hurricanes damaged area and whatever.
They helped me. And you know, when you're what they're
there for is to help wrestlers who fall on hard

(01:06:49):
times for whatever reason, you know, and they're there they've
been doing it for forty fifty nine years starting this year.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
And it was started by an old wrestler named Mike mcgirsei,
who was actually an actor too, back in the fifties,
sixties whatever. It originally was for wrestlers, boxers, and Hollywood stuntmen,
but now it's just for wrestlers. So if you're into
restling business and you need some financial help, legitimate financial helping.
If you're sticking needles in your arm and your heroin addict,
they're not going to help you. But if you fell

(01:07:18):
down some stairs and you can't work your real job,
or something real happened in your life, hurricanes, tornados, you
know what I'm saying, they'll step up and help you.
And this year they've given out over seventy thousand dollars,
one of the most successful years ever bringing money in,
sending money out to help the people in the business.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
That's amazing. That's amazing. Brian's an amazing guy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Yeah, yeah him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Last year, I think he came on the show great
guy as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
So it's very very awesome guy. But anybody who's not
part of that club I go wrestling. I think in
every wrestling school. They should teach the importance of the
kelley for alley club. You're just starting out there maybe
a time in your crew with there's ten years, thirty years,
five years down the row where you're going to need them,
and it's not going to be there if we don't have,
you know, chief to go in momentum going. The more
it's like anything, the more members you make, the more

(01:08:04):
money you have, the more people you can help. Pretty
pretty much easy science. It's not Bush math or was
that Bush math? Whose math was that Clinton math? I
don't know, but it's pretty easy to figure out. More members,
more money, more help.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
There you go, there, you go. Everybody check it out.
Why don't you tell everybody where they can find Bob Cook.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Well, you can find Bob Cook sitting in front of
a TV with Mountain doing this. Oh, you're talking about
something else. Facebook is Bob Cook? I can't see. I
don't know. Oh. Actually the promo for the show coming
up January eleventh, Twisted Rest Alliance Studios a Cuban of
assassed that dirty bastard. Oh, I said bastard. I didn't
mean to say dirty. Uh with his manager Fantasy Frankie

(01:08:47):
Reyes the Dog and Snake in the Grass. He's the
one who hired the Cuban with Chief Eddie. Two rovers
against me, Joe Saracito, Delicious d right here. Twist the
rest of studios. That's something they should do too, is
follow Twisted rest and Studios on Facebook, Twisted Dressing Studios
on a Twisted Rested Alliance on.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
YouTube, and make it a point check out Pro Wrestling Wire.

(01:09:33):
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You can check them out online and make it a
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