April 16, 2025 • 35 mins
Join Tony for an enlightening podcast episode as he sits down with holistic wellness expert Amita Sharma to explore the transformative power of women’s health and lifestyle. In this empowering interview, Amita delves into the importance of holistic approaches to wellness, offering practical tips for achieving balance, vitality, and self-care. Whether you're seeking natural remedies, mindful practices, or lifestyle shifts, Amita shares her wealth of knowledge on embracing wellness in every aspect of life. Tune in to learn how to enhance your overall well-being and thrive as a modern woman.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our foundering fathers here in this country, brought about the
only true revolution that has ever taken place in man's history.
Evolve the idea that you and I have within ourselves,
the god given right and the ability to determine our
own destiny.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
The United States of America the greatest nation in history,
ordained by our founders to be guided by divine providence,
but today we are witnessing the orchestrated disintegration of America.
Take a few seconds and take a look around your town,
your state, look at your country and your world, and
(00:39):
boldly ask what in the hell is going on?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
We didn't pass it on to our children in the bloodstream.
The only way they can inherit the freedom we have
known is if we fight for it, protect it, defend it,
and then hand it to them with the well taught
lessons of how they in their lifetime. Let's do the same.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Welcome to the podcast Project Third Eye Opened, where we
dare to question with boldness the events that are unfolding
around us that others won't. At the end of the day,
it is we the people who will decide the destiny
of the Nation. Now introducing your host, Tony el.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Grittings, Grittings, Gritting, Grittings everyone, This is another very very
special interview podcast presentation project that I open and here
today we have Miss California herself, Miss Amita h Shamo
samow Cama, Shema, Shema excellent, excellent, and she is a
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woman holistic realness champion advocate. She is a lot of
more things I want to talk to her and get
into about. Is the whole aut enough healing? Go listen
to healing and a lot of women write issues if
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we won't talk to her about that. Doing these very
very challenging, confusing the studying times in which we could
live and exists.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So Amita, tell everybody about you.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Thank you, thank you so much, Tony.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I'm just trying to, you know, make a difference and
make an impact in women's lives. And the reason is
that the journey of a woman after the reproductive years
is not paid attention to, right.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
So, so we pay a lot of attention as a as.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
A society, as a community towards the reproductive years, towards
you know, the offsprings and all that, and that's good,
that's good. But then after women pastcessary productive years that
she's forgotten. And what I'm trying to do is bring
that out in openness and talk about a middleaged women's
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journey and help her through this journey into you know,
being a senior or whatever. So what I'm doing is
created a holistic wellness platform for middaged women to navigate
their issues and seek help. That's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Okay, okay, Well, just for the record, I'm not a female.
I'm not a male, I know, so this is definitely
I saw my warehouse.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
But I'm always interesting in female issues, interesting in females,
and I want to bring this kind of different, different
thing because we came over talk about politics and it's
always things outside of politics, and definitely women issues that
you mentioned. After they give birth, people you say forget
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about them. I definitely understand that and definitely don't want
that to happen. I don't want women to feel short
in any way any part of their life.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
So in a way I can help with that, I'm
all forward, so tell.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Us about the issue of women's holistic realness.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
So what I'm trying to do is, let's say a woman,
a forty year old woman. Right, That's what I'm focusing
on women mid age forty plus and holistic wellness is
that she is actually going through She probably starts with
a pettimenopause journey, which she doesn't even know before.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
She hits the menopause, So she's.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Going to go through a lot of hormonal fluctuations that's
going to impact not only her physical wellness but also
her mental, her relationships, everything.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Right, that's what the issue that I'm trying to bring
it out.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Before she hits the menopause, that's a peertimenopause journey in
forty after she hits the menopause, which is fifties and plus,
and then of course later on. So that's the holistic
part of it, is really taking care of one yourself physical, mental, social, spiritual, financial,
also because this whole journey can impact everything. It's not
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just one thing, right, It's not just physical or I
have a sore throat, I'll be fine in a couple
of days.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
This journey goes on for.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Almost a decade a decade, yes, yes, a decade, and
it can impact everything, believe it or not. Your career,
a financial situation, your relationship with your spouse or partner,
your physical wellness, your self esteem, and I can expand
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on all this, and if you don't know how to
take care of yourself, you're just going to be having
some anxiety and depression and low self esteem and issues
with your image, body image and all those things, and
possibly get into divorce, which we have a lot of data.
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Sixty percent of the women who are going through divorce
are in this phase.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Now, tell people how long have you been doing this?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
About coming?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Do you have yeah, three letters after your name? What's
what's what's your background in this?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I'm not a medical doctor. First of all, I'm not
even a holistic expert. I am just a person who's
who actually had very aggravated symptoms through my pertimenopause journey
in my forties and it impacted, like I'm doing you
use the word as to you everything in my life, my.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Career's what's aggravated. So for people who do not know
what menopause is, what's normal minopause and what's aggravated menopause,
what's the difference?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Okay, so well, the difference is like in for in
my case, while I'm going to work at work, I'm
having hot flashes and I'm profusely sweating, and I don't know,
they're just uncontrollable. As an example, that's aggravated symptom of
a heart flash that's happening, unpredictable, right, and then also
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you know the flow is completely uncontrolled, which is not
normal for a woman, right to a point that certainly
it's unpredictable. Then you can't sleep at night. Then in
the morning you're not able to concentrate. Your foggy mood
swings are going crazy, and this is all happening. These
are the symptoms that are sometimes are not getting controlled,
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is what I'm trying to say. A normal menopause, Yes,
a lot of women don't have any issues going through
the menopause. There could be little things here and there,
but majority of the women in life, I would say
eighty five percent of the women have a lot of
symptoms that they sometimes cannot manage without the help of
an expert or without help of some other you know,
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some of the expertise.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
And your studies.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
What have you Have you seen any changes from when
you first started to now?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, yeah, I have been able to fix myself.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean I thought yourself as women who you interact.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
With who okay, yeah, yeah, so so things.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Actually you are good. So that's I'm glad to hear that.
I'm glad to hear you.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm actually pretty good.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
So what I'm saying is that, uh, things are changing.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
You know, we are as women, we are more aware
of this problem that women face, and of course with
the partners also. So yes, there has been a huge
upsurge of this topic being discussed in media now right
in the last couple of years. I've been doing this
for the last couple of years or so, so there
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is a more awareness, there is a talk about it.
There are celebrities who are talking about this. So definitely
I see that whole wave of this topic being discussed
more openly than it was being discussed about four five
years back.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
As an example, there's an idea of how many women
have you interacted with.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Help such how many?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
So I have interviewed about four thousand holistic experts globally,
and majority of them have been mid aged women. As
I said, now, as far as other things, our platform
is being launched in a couple of weeks where what
we've done is in the last two three years, we
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have conducted a lot of webinars, you know, educational sessions.
Almost five thousand people have attended our sessions. And I
have done approximately fifteen hundred educational sessions and in that
approximately five thousand, maybe ten thousand people have attended. So
those have been like educational sessions, but not necessarily a
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platform with the you know, with the flow that you
could do yourself. So after learning for the last two
three years of our so much market research, so much interviewing,
so much doing you know, almost fifteen hundred plus educational sessions,
what we are doing now is we are launching a
self care app where we will not be conducting the
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way we have been doing in the last two years. Now,
as a woman, I can come in and I can
pay like five to ten dollars a month and I
can start self care app for a perimen of house
menopause journey. And if I need some help like you know,
and the next step, I have experts who are qualified
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better by us that I can reach out to help me.
As an example, I need a nutrition plan. I'm in
a woman in my forties, I'm going through hormonal fluctuations.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Help me do that, you know, or I need some.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You know, exercise training or strength training, Tell me how
to do that, or it could be hair loss. It
could be so many things, right, anxiety, mental health, career, counseling,
divorce counseling, so many things, right. So that's kind of
how we have done when you ask me the questions
how many women, this is how we have done it.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
Since we deal with women all over the world. Where
do culture fit in?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
And diet.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Culture is a big, big part of this, and and
I'll explain you. And we are trying to build a
culturally sensitive platform. First of all, the age of a
men of pause as an example, culturally, Latino American women
and African American women get get the menopause earlier, like.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Order, could we say Black American?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Oh sure, Black American.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I'm sorry, okay, Latino American and Black American women they
enter the menopause at forty c forty eight, and their
symptoms are more aggravated. I used the word aggravated earlier
as well. They are going to get more hot flashes.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Now when you say more aggravated compared to who compared
to Caucasian women?
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Okay, yeah, so Caucasian.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Okay, So so what that what about other women like
in the other other countries, is it?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Are your primarily focusing on American?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
No? No, no, no no, I'll explain you.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
So Caucasian women get fifty one fifty two, Latino American,
Black American forty seven, forty eight, Indian women in India
forty five forty six, Muslim women in Sudan or other
Muslim countries forty five forty six. The fact that it's
so culturally different and the type of symptoms they have
are completely different.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Have you looked at European or Greek here?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Greek Greek culture lit bit different and Italian because of
the food that they eat.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, does that figure into it?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I did not look into it. There's not much data. Okay,
I haven't looked into that. But my guess is they're
very healthy compared to all of us because there's a
Mediterranean diet right right, and that the diet is very
good in Spain and Italy and Mediterranean region. So my
guess is that women in that area are healthier than
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the ones that I'm pointing out, But I haven't looked
at the data.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I'll look into that, okay, Okay, but continue I know it.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Through, Okay, So now the symptoms are also different, is
what I'm trying to say. Like, for instance, Japanese women
don't get hot flashes because of the soyer diet that
they have been doing for the decades and decades, as
opposed to a Black American woman and Latino American woman.
She is on a processed food diet. So what I'm
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trying to.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Say is this, they just make a point, you missed
processed foods in regardless to Asian women, so Asian cultures.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
So is it something particular that you're being able to pinpoint?
Is it? Is it soy? Is it? Is it they
eat more more.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Fish, they eat more vegetables, or they don't do process
foods like we do, or all the above, All of
the above.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
They eat more fish, they eat more soupstead, they eat
more vegetables, they eat more fresh food, they eat more soy.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
If you go to Asia, I travel to Asia.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Every year and you'll see most I think, entire Asia.
If I can make a blanket statement eats fresh every
single day. They eat freshwood. They have a lot of
open air little things. You see movies right they shown
and it's very cheap. So so I think it's it's
it's the dietary and the lifestyle, you know, dietary habits
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that most of the Asians have, specifically in the in
that part of the region, as opposed to you can
if if we come here in the United States or
Western world, we don't have the time to cook, right,
how much time do we have to cook when we
are going from jobs and trying to make our ends meet.
So we end up eating a lot of process food
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like can food or some other like easy microwavable. And
that makes a difference, is what I'm.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Can we own Can we only make an excuse because
we don't have time or we don't we don't prioritize it,
because I'm quite sure women women that that go that
come upon your care, you prioritize the change the lifestyle.
They're eating better, exercide and maybe doing some yoga. You know,
they they change their priorities.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
They weren't aware.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
See that's a problem if you look at the sixties
and seventies ads right, and and and they are trying
to And I was looking at Campbell's at you know, oh,
you can cook the meal in a like it's all
ready to go. You can go fast, fast, right, wave,
go fast and there you have a nice meat for
your family. So right, the media is really making it like,
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oh it's so easy, and the women start doing all
these can foods and all that.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
So I think it's the it's a lack of awareness.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
I don't know where it went, to be honest with you,
why we stopped eating fresh food. It's beyond me right
right right, the food, if you ask my opinion, And.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's cool. So we made it a fashion.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We made it a fashion to exactly now and and
and do things mac a wave, instantaneous.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It's a fascist, it's a fair.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Yeah, it's a society, right. We are in a living
in a society which is fast. We need instant results,
and the food is no different. The food is also
we want the food, we want to spend half an hour.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Every single day cooking.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
We just say okay, we want instant and there it goes. So,
but the nutrient value of all this food is not
the same as you would have a fresh vegetables or
fresh foods. So but then that accumulates, that's the point
I'm trying to make, right, that accumulates into Now I
haven't done study on men, I'm sure if I do
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the studies on men, I'm sure the men will also
have these kind of issues.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Bad food and bad food out absolutely.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
But I've done a lot of study into the women's
lives and this is what I have found.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
And and and the.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Cultural differences start accumulating, and then they bubble up in
the middle age. And because now all these years, you know,
and then suddenly when the hormonal fluctuations start happening with
two women's life, for example, in perimenopause, the periods start
becoming irregular and the hormones start fluctuating, and all this
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starts bubbling up, right, that's where the problem ends. And
now on this whole bubble up starts impacting your career
because you're not you know, I told you all the symptoms,
and if you're not able to control them, relationship with
your partner could also be impacted. Loss of libidos and
one of the symptoms that could have anxiety. Fifty percent
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of the women have anxiety depression issues.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Majority of the.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Women have self image, self esteem, low self esteem issues.
And then the work gets impacted, so that also there's
a fear of discrimination, age discrimination at work. You might
have to reinvent your career now at age forty five
or fifty, you can't cope up with the corporate world.
It's not just physical. It's what I'm trying to say, right,
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It's not just oh i'm perymen a pause, men of pause,
my period it stopped and that's the end of it.
It's impacting the entire life. And that's what I'm trying
to bring it out and offer women help. They need help,
they need to understand. And suddenly, you know, I have
so many of my friends they're divorced now. And and
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in Indian culture, the divorce and separation was unheard of, right, unheard?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I heard that. I heard that, Yeah, right.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
It's it's a country of rage marriages and then you
stick it out until you die.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Right now, it's different, it's completely in that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Case is good and bad. Some people painting as bad
because it's arranged. And some people look at it being
arranged because they see stuff on TV like it's forced
it it's like a shotgun were But.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It's not that the case all the time. Sometimes it's arranged.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And just like back in the day, in our culture,
the prospect of husband will come meet the family yes,
say yes or no, and someone can say that's arrange
because if Dad say no.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
It ain't happening.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know, it's kind of the same way, but maybe
at a higher level because they actually bring their families
on both sides and you know, and say this is
going to happen. Yet it's not going to happen. And
they may do this at a younger age. At a result,
it's still the same thing. Families get involved and they
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actually make a decision for the two couples.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yes, yeah, So it's always in all cultures, it's the families, right,
You look at any culture, it doesn't matter Christianity, Hinduism,
but any culture, Muslim it doesn't matter. It's all when
the marriage happens is the families come together, right, And
that's true. But what I'm saying is now with so
I didn't mean to get into the marriage part. Yeah, yeah,
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but this whole journey of pettyman of pause menopause, when
the woman is going through and if she's our open
communication with her partner, and if there is a loss
of libido or she has pelic health issues or other
issues that could also impact into lack of communication and
loss of libido could eventually get into a situation where
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you cannot get out, and it could be separation or
divorce or so many things.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
And it's not the only reason.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
I'm not saying this is the only reason why it happens.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
There's two people involved here, so going through this, and
our men never say I understand what women are going
through because we don't. You know, cases we're in it
set bystanders and we're just taking the swap metal, right,
you know, if it's not a swap metal. And sometimes
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we don't like the colladal damage involved, and we just
I can't handle it.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I don't know what you're going through. You're not talking
to me.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You know, we ain't vibing here, So you know, we
gotta make some changes.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Yeah, exactly. And it's not the fault of men or anyone.
It's just the society. You know, we don't talk about
this as a community.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
How are you going to know? How are men going
to know? I had no clue I'm going to I
was going through something. I was clueless.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
If we don't know, I definitely don't know what.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Exactly.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
So the whole point what I'm trying to make is
middle aged women or men. Actually, men also go through
their own share of hormone fluctuations that testosterone goes down,
you know, we know that.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And mid life crisis.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Exactly, midlife blues, mid life right.
Speaker 9 (22:40):
Right, Yeah, So there's a reason why we call it
because of all these hormonal fluctuations that are happening in
each of our bodies, men as well as women. And
all I'm saying is that we need to understand the
science behind it. We need to understand why it's happening
and take control and take charge of taking care of
our self.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And that's it. There's nothing more than that.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Now when look at different cultures, because this this is
the thing that is fascinating to me because.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
It's not all the same with everyone, and a.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Lot of it depends. A lot of it had to
do the culture and a lot of had to do
the diet. So how do people what culture? And this
may be the answer already question already answered.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
What culture handles this the worst and which one happens
the best.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
I don't know if I can just say which culture
handles it the worst? You know, it's I mean, there's
no data or research that talks about it that this
is the worst one. But each culture has its problems.
I would say that, like I pointed it out, like
for example, Muslim culture women as an example, they have
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a secondary life style, we know that. And their diet
is also very rich, you know, with meat and all that.
And they are getting menopause at the age of forty
five forty six, so they are not allowed the meat.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
The amount of meat that wants to assume in a culture.
Does they have a lot of weight to do with that.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Red meat, red meat, red meat, yeah, red meat.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Not chicken, not pork, but red meat.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
No chicken and fish is fine. Red meat.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
So they have a lot of lamb, right, most of
the Muslim cultures have a lot of lamb. So and
the women are also not how should I say it,
not healthy, but also not you know, emancipated in the
sense like they're not allowed to.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Do so many things.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
And generally general statement here not in the United States,
but general Muslim culture women are more subdued. They're suppressed,
they're subservient, they're they're they're required to be.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Subservient, you know. All that.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
All that, right, And I would say I don't want
to say anything about one culture or the other, but
that would be generally speaking, where women are subservient, where
women are not allowed to express themselves, where they don't
have a voice, and they are you know, they don't
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have a lifestyle that's active and yeah, yeah, so I
think those would be culture that need the most help.
Is for how I would frame it rather than saying
the worst versus the girls.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I don't want.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
To downplay one culture as per say, every one culture
I respect, but I think that would be something it's
just general over all. Yeah, taking care of yourself and
if women are not taking care of themselves and not
expressing themselves emotionally and also physically not active, and it's problem.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, that's a problem that will bubble up for anyone.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
It doesn't matter the culture or culture, right is it.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
When it comes to.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Medical tourism, how that figure into your your your practice.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
So we haven't included the medical tourism yet. We will
right now because that requires I mean there's.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
A lot of vetting.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
You know, you want to make sure you don't want
to send someone somewhere in the world and that doesn't
work out the way.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It's the people.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
What is what is medical tourism for people who may
not be familiar with it.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
So medical tourism from what I am is traveling to
another location to take care of yourself, whether it's a
issue that you have medically, or wellness retreats or some
of those things.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Right.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
So for instance, let's just take an example, a lot
of people go to Bali for wellness retreats. A lot
of Americans end up going to Mexico for their dental
work or some of the other work.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Right.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
They also end up going to India for again wellness
are uveda, things like that. A lot of you know,
a lot of people end up going there to take
care of alternative medicine therapies to help them get well
using are you red or acupuncture.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
So those are tricky in the.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Sense cost is a factor, and that isn't it.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, cost is a huge factor.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Cost is very minimal, But then the most important thing
is the outcome. Right, If someone is suffering from a
serious issue illness, then the medical tourism has to be
researched very thoroughly to make sure the outcome is positive,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
If it's a wellness retreat, you know, going to.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
A yoga retreat, going to some you know, simple things,
no big deal.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
That's okay.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
You're just going doing yoga by the beach or in
the mountains or in a setting where it's very beautiful,
that's okay. But if some one is having some serious
medical issues and they want to use medical tourism to
take care of themselves, then it becomes tricky because you
want to make sure that the vendor or the professional
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or the expert is thoroughly vetted and they have recent outcomes,
because that's what I'm saying. So we haven't gotten to
that at all, right now, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 10 (28:22):
And I know when you talk to women, are they
any way impacted by the change in a culture as
far as men or concerned that men are aren't ass
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was arguably more they're not masculine and not take charge
like they is. They don't know how to really be
supportive of a female because they're a lot more sedative
and less firm than maybe they were generation or so ago.
(29:06):
And that may not be just a appleple to the
United States, could be worldwide where but men roles are different,
yeah from and support of and more feminine and like
we are turning to a court to day, do you
see that being paramatic.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
So men, you know a lot of men have interviewed me.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
To be honest with you, I was actually pleasantly surprised
and that a lot of men wanted to talk to me.
And and and I think men want to help. That
has been my good men who care for their partners
and spouses and their relationships.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Good men.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
They want they.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Want to get yeah, meaning good men, Okay, good men.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Yeah, they want to get involved.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Okay, they want to they want to contribute to the society,
to the community.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
That has been my impression.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
They genuinely care for the for their spouses or partner
and they want.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
To help, right, that's my impression of men.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
And and I don't blame them if they don't know,
because generally this topic has not been discussed, so if.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
How are you going to know?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
But all the men that I have talked to, they
generally want to help their partners and also help to
you know, make sure this message is reaches as many
people as possible through their podcast or through their other communities,
which is really encouraging, is what I'm saying. And you know,
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coming from men specifically.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
That's good to you.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
I feel better, Yeah, absolutely, no, you guys are doing amazing.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
I'm telling you, and I've talked to are they really
want you know, it's an eye opener for them.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
They don't understand and when they talk, you know, when
I had talked to them and explaining them all the details,
I said, oh my god, you know, we would love
to help.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
And that has been Yeah. So that has been my
impression of few of the men that I have talked to.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Okay, okay, okay, I feel better because men men opinion
best best over head for the last No, no, okay.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Absolutely not. It depends. It depends. It's just that the
society in all over the world has been more patriarchal,
which we know. And also the research, you know, medical
research has been more the funding part and has nothing
to do with men. It's it's you know, the higher
politics or whatever has been focused more on the men
than women. So it has nothing to do with an
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individual guy out there. It's all related to, for you know,
a higher political I don't even know who decided right, right, right.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
But it's interesting because we there seem to be maybe
just in the Western cultures, there is a huge red
whish to be more female centric. Now so much male centric,
but you just mentioned that still in your particularly it's
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still male centric.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I think all over the world the society is more patriarchal.
And in the last few years years, things have changed, right,
in the last decade or so, things have changed.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
But before that, when I was going to.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, my age group is our patriarchal
But the younger people.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, the good old the good old days.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Yeah yeah, but age now twenty something or thirty something
not our age group. There is an equal distribution of
you know, and that's great, but there's you know, our
age groups.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
It has been more patriarchal.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, true to your time. I don't wear your vocal
calls out.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
My throat is going to go away, That's what I'm.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
That happened, at least not on my account.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So tells how they can follow you, keep involved with you,
reach out to you. Tell the folks how to how
to be in contact with you.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Yeah, So, like I said again, we have built a holistic,
balanced platform for manage women encompasses everything under the sun
and people and women can reach out to www. Dot
nourishdock dot com. We will be releasing our app in
a couple of weeks or so where women can download
or do it on the web and start their journey
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less than ten dollars or five dollars we haven't even
don't know the price yet, but very very affordable that
they can start the journey of self care. So nourishdock
dot com.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
But if you're preaching your time a meter and I've
learned so much, definitely thank you. Get to hear from
the other side, so always pleased to learn more, more
and more each day. But so you'd be blessed if
you appreciate your.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Time and thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
You have a good day. Reach out to me when
whenever you like he got anything new.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Yeah, I will reach out to you when we are
ready to launch and and uh you know when we
have launched our app. And I'd love to get to
see how if you can there's any collaboration opportunity.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I love to do that thing.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
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Welcome to the podcast Project Third Eye Opened, where we
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Speaker 3 (01:31):
Grittings, Grittings, Gritting, Grittings everyone, This is another very very
special interview podcast presentation project that I open and here
today we have Miss California herself, Miss Amita h Shamo
samow Cama, Shema, Shema excellent, excellent, and she is a
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woman holistic realness champion advocate. She is a lot of
more things I want to talk to her and get
into about. Is the whole aut enough healing? Go listen
to healing and a lot of women write issues if
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we won't talk to her about that. Doing these very
very challenging, confusing the studying times in which we could
live and exists.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So Amita, tell everybody about you.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Thank you, thank you so much, Tony.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I'm just trying to, you know, make a difference and
make an impact in women's lives. And the reason is
that the journey of a woman after the reproductive years
is not paid attention to, right.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
So, so we pay a lot of attention as a as.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
A society, as a community towards the reproductive years, towards
you know, the offsprings and all that, and that's good,
that's good. But then after women pastcessary productive years that
she's forgotten. And what I'm trying to do is bring
that out in openness and talk about a middleaged women's
(03:12):
journey and help her through this journey into you know,
being a senior or whatever. So what I'm doing is
created a holistic wellness platform for middaged women to navigate
their issues and seek help. That's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Okay, okay, Well, just for the record, I'm not a female.
I'm not a male, I know, so this is definitely
I saw my warehouse.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
But I'm always interesting in female issues, interesting in females,
and I want to bring this kind of different, different
thing because we came over talk about politics and it's
always things outside of politics, and definitely women issues that
you mentioned. After they give birth, people you say forget
(04:01):
about them. I definitely understand that and definitely don't want
that to happen. I don't want women to feel short
in any way any part of their life.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
So in a way I can help with that, I'm
all forward, so tell.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Us about the issue of women's holistic realness.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
So what I'm trying to do is, let's say a woman,
a forty year old woman. Right, That's what I'm focusing
on women mid age forty plus and holistic wellness is
that she is actually going through She probably starts with
a pettimenopause journey, which she doesn't even know before.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
She hits the menopause, So she's.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Going to go through a lot of hormonal fluctuations that's
going to impact not only her physical wellness but also
her mental, her relationships, everything.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Right, that's what the issue that I'm trying to bring
it out.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Before she hits the menopause, that's a peertimenopause journey in
forty after she hits the menopause, which is fifties and plus,
and then of course later on. So that's the holistic
part of it, is really taking care of one yourself physical, mental, social, spiritual, financial,
also because this whole journey can impact everything. It's not
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just one thing, right, It's not just physical or I
have a sore throat, I'll be fine in a couple
of days.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
This journey goes on for.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Almost a decade a decade, yes, yes, a decade, and
it can impact everything, believe it or not. Your career,
a financial situation, your relationship with your spouse or partner,
your physical wellness, your self esteem, and I can expand
(05:46):
on all this, and if you don't know how to
take care of yourself, you're just going to be having
some anxiety and depression and low self esteem and issues
with your image, body image and all those things, and
possibly get into divorce, which we have a lot of data.
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Sixty percent of the women who are going through divorce
are in this phase.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Now, tell people how long have you been doing this?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
About coming?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Do you have yeah, three letters after your name? What's
what's what's your background in this?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I'm not a medical doctor. First of all, I'm not
even a holistic expert. I am just a person who's
who actually had very aggravated symptoms through my pertimenopause journey
in my forties and it impacted, like I'm doing you
use the word as to you everything in my life, my.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Career's what's aggravated. So for people who do not know
what menopause is, what's normal minopause and what's aggravated menopause,
what's the difference?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Okay, so well, the difference is like in for in
my case, while I'm going to work at work, I'm
having hot flashes and I'm profusely sweating, and I don't know,
they're just uncontrollable. As an example, that's aggravated symptom of
a heart flash that's happening, unpredictable, right, and then also
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you know the flow is completely uncontrolled, which is not
normal for a woman, right to a point that certainly
it's unpredictable. Then you can't sleep at night. Then in
the morning you're not able to concentrate. Your foggy mood
swings are going crazy, and this is all happening. These
are the symptoms that are sometimes are not getting controlled,
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is what I'm trying to say. A normal menopause, Yes,
a lot of women don't have any issues going through
the menopause. There could be little things here and there,
but majority of the women in life, I would say
eighty five percent of the women have a lot of
symptoms that they sometimes cannot manage without the help of
an expert or without help of some other you know,
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some of the expertise.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
And your studies.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
What have you Have you seen any changes from when
you first started to now?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, yeah, I have been able to fix myself.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I mean I thought yourself as women who you interact.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
With who okay, yeah, yeah, so so things.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Actually you are good. So that's I'm glad to hear that.
I'm glad to hear you.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm actually pretty good.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
So what I'm saying is that, uh, things are changing.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
You know, we are as women, we are more aware
of this problem that women face, and of course with
the partners also. So yes, there has been a huge
upsurge of this topic being discussed in media now right
in the last couple of years. I've been doing this
for the last couple of years or so, so there
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is a more awareness, there is a talk about it.
There are celebrities who are talking about this. So definitely
I see that whole wave of this topic being discussed
more openly than it was being discussed about four five
years back.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
As an example, there's an idea of how many women
have you interacted with.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Help such how many?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
So I have interviewed about four thousand holistic experts globally,
and majority of them have been mid aged women. As
I said, now, as far as other things, our platform
is being launched in a couple of weeks where what
we've done is in the last two three years, we
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have conducted a lot of webinars, you know, educational sessions.
Almost five thousand people have attended our sessions. And I
have done approximately fifteen hundred educational sessions and in that
approximately five thousand, maybe ten thousand people have attended. So
those have been like educational sessions, but not necessarily a
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platform with the you know, with the flow that you
could do yourself. So after learning for the last two
three years of our so much market research, so much interviewing,
so much doing you know, almost fifteen hundred plus educational sessions,
what we are doing now is we are launching a
self care app where we will not be conducting the
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way we have been doing in the last two years. Now,
as a woman, I can come in and I can
pay like five to ten dollars a month and I
can start self care app for a perimen of house
menopause journey. And if I need some help like you know,
and the next step, I have experts who are qualified
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better by us that I can reach out to help me.
As an example, I need a nutrition plan. I'm in
a woman in my forties, I'm going through hormonal fluctuations.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Help me do that, you know, or I need some.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You know, exercise training or strength training, Tell me how
to do that, or it could be hair loss. It
could be so many things, right, anxiety, mental health, career, counseling,
divorce counseling, so many things, right. So that's kind of
how we have done when you ask me the questions
how many women, this is how we have done it.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
Since we deal with women all over the world. Where
do culture fit in?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
And diet.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Culture is a big, big part of this, and and
I'll explain you. And we are trying to build a
culturally sensitive platform. First of all, the age of a
men of pause as an example, culturally, Latino American women
and African American women get get the menopause earlier, like.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Order, could we say Black American?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Oh sure, Black American.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I'm sorry, okay, Latino American and Black American women they
enter the menopause at forty c forty eight, and their
symptoms are more aggravated. I used the word aggravated earlier
as well. They are going to get more hot flashes.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Now when you say more aggravated compared to who compared
to Caucasian women?
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Okay, yeah, so Caucasian.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Okay, So so what that what about other women like
in the other other countries, is it?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Are your primarily focusing on American?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
No? No, no, no no, I'll explain you.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
So Caucasian women get fifty one fifty two, Latino American,
Black American forty seven, forty eight, Indian women in India
forty five forty six, Muslim women in Sudan or other
Muslim countries forty five forty six. The fact that it's
so culturally different and the type of symptoms they have
are completely different.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Have you looked at European or Greek here?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Greek Greek culture lit bit different and Italian because of
the food that they eat.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, does that figure into it?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I did not look into it. There's not much data. Okay,
I haven't looked into that. But my guess is they're
very healthy compared to all of us because there's a
Mediterranean diet right right, and that the diet is very
good in Spain and Italy and Mediterranean region. So my
guess is that women in that area are healthier than
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the ones that I'm pointing out, But I haven't looked
at the data.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I'll look into that, okay, Okay, but continue I know it.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Through, Okay, So now the symptoms are also different, is
what I'm trying to say. Like, for instance, Japanese women
don't get hot flashes because of the soyer diet that
they have been doing for the decades and decades, as
opposed to a Black American woman and Latino American woman.
She is on a processed food diet. So what I'm
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trying to.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Say is this, they just make a point, you missed
processed foods in regardless to Asian women, so Asian cultures.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
So is it something particular that you're being able to pinpoint?
Is it? Is it soy? Is it? Is it they
eat more more.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Fish, they eat more vegetables, or they don't do process
foods like we do, or all the above, All of
the above.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
They eat more fish, they eat more soupstead, they eat
more vegetables, they eat more fresh food, they eat more soy.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
If you go to Asia, I travel to Asia.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Every year and you'll see most I think, entire Asia.
If I can make a blanket statement eats fresh every
single day. They eat freshwood. They have a lot of
open air little things. You see movies right they shown
and it's very cheap. So so I think it's it's
it's the dietary and the lifestyle, you know, dietary habits
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that most of the Asians have, specifically in the in
that part of the region, as opposed to you can
if if we come here in the United States or
Western world, we don't have the time to cook, right,
how much time do we have to cook when we
are going from jobs and trying to make our ends meet.
So we end up eating a lot of process food
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like can food or some other like easy microwavable. And
that makes a difference, is what I'm.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Can we own Can we only make an excuse because
we don't have time or we don't we don't prioritize it,
because I'm quite sure women women that that go that
come upon your care, you prioritize the change the lifestyle.
They're eating better, exercide and maybe doing some yoga. You know,
they they change their priorities.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
They weren't aware.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
See that's a problem if you look at the sixties
and seventies ads right, and and and they are trying
to And I was looking at Campbell's at you know, oh,
you can cook the meal in a like it's all
ready to go. You can go fast, fast, right, wave,
go fast and there you have a nice meat for
your family. So right, the media is really making it like,
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oh it's so easy, and the women start doing all
these can foods and all that.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
So I think it's the it's a lack of awareness.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
I don't know where it went, to be honest with you,
why we stopped eating fresh food. It's beyond me right
right right, the food, if you ask my opinion, And.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's cool. So we made it a fashion.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We made it a fashion to exactly now and and
and do things mac a wave, instantaneous.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
It's a fascist, it's a fair.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Yeah, it's a society, right. We are in a living
in a society which is fast. We need instant results,
and the food is no different. The food is also
we want the food, we want to spend half an hour.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Every single day cooking.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
We just say okay, we want instant and there it goes. So,
but the nutrient value of all this food is not
the same as you would have a fresh vegetables or
fresh foods. So but then that accumulates, that's the point
I'm trying to make, right, that accumulates into Now I
haven't done study on men, I'm sure if I do
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the studies on men, I'm sure the men will also
have these kind of issues.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Bad food and bad food out absolutely.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
But I've done a lot of study into the women's
lives and this is what I have found.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
And and and the.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Cultural differences start accumulating, and then they bubble up in
the middle age. And because now all these years, you know,
and then suddenly when the hormonal fluctuations start happening with
two women's life, for example, in perimenopause, the periods start
becoming irregular and the hormones start fluctuating, and all this
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starts bubbling up, right, that's where the problem ends. And
now on this whole bubble up starts impacting your career
because you're not you know, I told you all the symptoms,
and if you're not able to control them, relationship with
your partner could also be impacted. Loss of libidos and
one of the symptoms that could have anxiety. Fifty percent
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of the women have anxiety depression issues.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Majority of the.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Women have self image, self esteem, low self esteem issues.
And then the work gets impacted, so that also there's
a fear of discrimination, age discrimination at work. You might
have to reinvent your career now at age forty five
or fifty, you can't cope up with the corporate world.
It's not just physical. It's what I'm trying to say, right,
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It's not just oh i'm perymen a pause, men of pause,
my period it stopped and that's the end of it.
It's impacting the entire life. And that's what I'm trying
to bring it out and offer women help. They need help,
they need to understand. And suddenly, you know, I have
so many of my friends they're divorced now. And and
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in Indian culture, the divorce and separation was unheard of, right, unheard?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I heard that. I heard that, Yeah, right.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
It's it's a country of rage marriages and then you
stick it out until you die.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Right now, it's different, it's completely in that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Case is good and bad. Some people painting as bad
because it's arranged. And some people look at it being
arranged because they see stuff on TV like it's forced
it it's like a shotgun were But.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It's not that the case all the time. Sometimes it's arranged.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And just like back in the day, in our culture,
the prospect of husband will come meet the family yes,
say yes or no, and someone can say that's arrange
because if Dad say no.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
It ain't happening.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know, it's kind of the same way, but maybe
at a higher level because they actually bring their families
on both sides and you know, and say this is
going to happen. Yet it's not going to happen. And
they may do this at a younger age. At a result,
it's still the same thing. Families get involved and they
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actually make a decision for the two couples.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yes, yeah, So it's always in all cultures, it's the families, right,
You look at any culture, it doesn't matter Christianity, Hinduism,
but any culture, Muslim it doesn't matter. It's all when
the marriage happens is the families come together, right, And
that's true. But what I'm saying is now with so
I didn't mean to get into the marriage part. Yeah, yeah,
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but this whole journey of pettyman of pause menopause, when
the woman is going through and if she's our open
communication with her partner, and if there is a loss
of libido or she has pelic health issues or other
issues that could also impact into lack of communication and
loss of libido could eventually get into a situation where
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you cannot get out, and it could be separation or
divorce or so many things.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
And it's not the only reason.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
I'm not saying this is the only reason why it happens.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
There's two people involved here, so going through this, and
our men never say I understand what women are going
through because we don't. You know, cases we're in it
set bystanders and we're just taking the swap metal, right,
you know, if it's not a swap metal. And sometimes
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we don't like the colladal damage involved, and we just
I can't handle it.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I don't know what you're going through. You're not talking
to me.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You know, we ain't vibing here, So you know, we
gotta make some changes.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Yeah, exactly. And it's not the fault of men or anyone.
It's just the society. You know, we don't talk about
this as a community.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
How are you going to know? How are men going
to know? I had no clue I'm going to I
was going through something. I was clueless.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
If we don't know, I definitely don't know what.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Exactly.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
So the whole point what I'm trying to make is
middle aged women or men. Actually, men also go through
their own share of hormone fluctuations that testosterone goes down,
you know, we know that.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And mid life crisis.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Exactly, midlife blues, mid life right.
Speaker 9 (22:40):
Right, Yeah, So there's a reason why we call it
because of all these hormonal fluctuations that are happening in
each of our bodies, men as well as women. And
all I'm saying is that we need to understand the
science behind it. We need to understand why it's happening
and take control and take charge of taking care of
our self.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And that's it. There's nothing more than that.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Now when look at different cultures, because this this is
the thing that is fascinating to me because.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
It's not all the same with everyone, and a.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Lot of it depends. A lot of it had to
do the culture and a lot of had to do
the diet. So how do people what culture? And this
may be the answer already question already answered.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
What culture handles this the worst and which one happens
the best.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
I don't know if I can just say which culture
handles it the worst? You know, it's I mean, there's
no data or research that talks about it that this
is the worst one. But each culture has its problems.
I would say that, like I pointed it out, like
for example, Muslim culture women as an example, they have
(23:59):
a secondary life style, we know that. And their diet
is also very rich, you know, with meat and all that.
And they are getting menopause at the age of forty
five forty six, so they are not allowed the meat.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
The amount of meat that wants to assume in a culture.
Does they have a lot of weight to do with that.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Red meat, red meat, red meat, yeah, red meat.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Not chicken, not pork, but red meat.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
No chicken and fish is fine. Red meat.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
So they have a lot of lamb, right, most of
the Muslim cultures have a lot of lamb. So and
the women are also not how should I say it,
not healthy, but also not you know, emancipated in the
sense like they're not allowed to.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Do so many things.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
And generally general statement here not in the United States,
but general Muslim culture women are more subdued. They're suppressed,
they're subservient, they're they're they're required to be.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Subservient, you know. All that.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
All that, right, And I would say I don't want
to say anything about one culture or the other, but
that would be generally speaking, where women are subservient, where
women are not allowed to express themselves, where they don't
have a voice, and they are you know, they don't
(25:21):
have a lifestyle that's active and yeah, yeah, so I
think those would be culture that need the most help.
Is for how I would frame it rather than saying
the worst versus the girls.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I don't want.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
To downplay one culture as per say, every one culture
I respect, but I think that would be something it's
just general over all. Yeah, taking care of yourself and
if women are not taking care of themselves and not
expressing themselves emotionally and also physically not active, and it's problem.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, that's a problem that will bubble up for anyone.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
It doesn't matter the culture or culture, right is it.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
When it comes to.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Medical tourism, how that figure into your your your practice.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
So we haven't included the medical tourism yet. We will
right now because that requires I mean there's.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
A lot of vetting.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
You know, you want to make sure you don't want
to send someone somewhere in the world and that doesn't
work out the way.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It's the people.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
What is what is medical tourism for people who may
not be familiar with it.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
So medical tourism from what I am is traveling to
another location to take care of yourself, whether it's a
issue that you have medically, or wellness retreats or some
of those things.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Right.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
So for instance, let's just take an example, a lot
of people go to Bali for wellness retreats. A lot
of Americans end up going to Mexico for their dental
work or some of the other work.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Right.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
They also end up going to India for again wellness
are uveda, things like that. A lot of you know,
a lot of people end up going there to take
care of alternative medicine therapies to help them get well
using are you red or acupuncture.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
So those are tricky in the.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Sense cost is a factor, and that isn't it.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, cost is a huge factor.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Cost is very minimal, But then the most important thing
is the outcome. Right, If someone is suffering from a
serious issue illness, then the medical tourism has to be
researched very thoroughly to make sure the outcome is positive,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
If it's a wellness retreat, you know, going to.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
A yoga retreat, going to some you know, simple things,
no big deal.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
That's okay.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
You're just going doing yoga by the beach or in
the mountains or in a setting where it's very beautiful,
that's okay. But if some one is having some serious
medical issues and they want to use medical tourism to
take care of themselves, then it becomes tricky because you
want to make sure that the vendor or the professional
(28:12):
or the expert is thoroughly vetted and they have recent outcomes,
because that's what I'm saying. So we haven't gotten to
that at all, right now, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 10 (28:22):
And I know when you talk to women, are they
any way impacted by the change in a culture as
far as men or concerned that men are aren't ass
(28:45):
was arguably more they're not masculine and not take charge
like they is. They don't know how to really be
supportive of a female because they're a lot more sedative
and less firm than maybe they were generation or so ago.
(29:06):
And that may not be just a appleple to the
United States, could be worldwide where but men roles are different,
yeah from and support of and more feminine and like
we are turning to a court to day, do you
see that being paramatic.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
So men, you know a lot of men have interviewed me.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
To be honest with you, I was actually pleasantly surprised
and that a lot of men wanted to talk to me.
And and and I think men want to help. That
has been my good men who care for their partners
and spouses and their relationships.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Good men.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
They want they.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Want to get yeah, meaning good men, Okay, good men.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Yeah, they want to get involved.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Okay, they want to they want to contribute to the society,
to the community.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
That has been my impression.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
They genuinely care for the for their spouses or partner
and they want.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
To help, right, that's my impression of men.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
And and I don't blame them if they don't know,
because generally this topic has not been discussed, so if.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
How are you going to know?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
But all the men that I have talked to, they
generally want to help their partners and also help to
you know, make sure this message is reaches as many
people as possible through their podcast or through their other communities,
which is really encouraging, is what I'm saying. And you know,
(30:33):
coming from men specifically.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
That's good to you.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
I feel better, Yeah, absolutely, no, you guys are doing amazing.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
I'm telling you, and I've talked to are they really
want you know, it's an eye opener for them.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
They don't understand and when they talk, you know, when
I had talked to them and explaining them all the details,
I said, oh my god, you know, we would love
to help.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
And that has been Yeah. So that has been my
impression of few of the men that I have talked to.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Okay, okay, okay, I feel better because men men opinion
best best over head for the last No, no, okay.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Absolutely not. It depends. It depends. It's just that the
society in all over the world has been more patriarchal,
which we know. And also the research, you know, medical
research has been more the funding part and has nothing
to do with men. It's it's you know, the higher
politics or whatever has been focused more on the men
than women. So it has nothing to do with an
(31:34):
individual guy out there. It's all related to, for you know,
a higher political I don't even know who decided right, right, right.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
But it's interesting because we there seem to be maybe
just in the Western cultures, there is a huge red
whish to be more female centric. Now so much male centric,
but you just mentioned that still in your particularly it's
(32:08):
still male centric.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I think all over the world the society is more patriarchal.
And in the last few years years, things have changed, right,
in the last decade or so, things have changed.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
But before that, when I was going to.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, my age group is our patriarchal
But the younger people.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, the good old the good old days.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Yeah yeah, but age now twenty something or thirty something
not our age group. There is an equal distribution of
you know, and that's great, but there's you know, our
age groups.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
It has been more patriarchal.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, true to your time. I don't wear your vocal
calls out.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
My throat is going to go away, That's what I'm.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
That happened, at least not on my account.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So tells how they can follow you, keep involved with you,
reach out to you. Tell the folks how to how
to be in contact with you.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Yeah, So, like I said again, we have built a holistic,
balanced platform for manage women encompasses everything under the sun
and people and women can reach out to www. Dot
nourishdock dot com. We will be releasing our app in
a couple of weeks or so where women can download
or do it on the web and start their journey
(33:41):
less than ten dollars or five dollars we haven't even
don't know the price yet, but very very affordable that
they can start the journey of self care. So nourishdock
dot com.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
But if you're preaching your time a meter and I've
learned so much, definitely thank you. Get to hear from
the other side, so always pleased to learn more, more
and more each day. But so you'd be blessed if
you appreciate your.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Time and thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
You have a good day. Reach out to me when
whenever you like he got anything new.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Yeah, I will reach out to you when we are
ready to launch and and uh you know when we
have launched our app. And I'd love to get to
see how if you can there's any collaboration opportunity.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I love to do that thing.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Please, thank you, thanks for listening to today's show, and
don't forget to like and subscribe to this podcast and
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