Episode 42: 2025 NL East B-Side Selections

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Not five miles an hour riding to his head. You
hop it down first with the lump bonius face, and
on the very next pitch he up and stole second face.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
With gretest speed. He wasn't born, he had yes uniforn.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Welcome back to the Prospect B Sides Podcast. I'm Nate
Handy joining me as always is. He's still going by
the rook even though he's kicking off his sophomore season
here as champion.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'll add of our of our Prospect B Side Draft.
What's up, Nate? How's it going? I'm I'm forever the
rook in this so need to need to break anything
that's not broken, right, it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, I'm kind of banking on a little sophomore slump
from you this year. I might need it to.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Overtake you know that that's not a real thing.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't want to hurt your feelings or embarrass you
or anything like that. But I got to say, after
our like last like wrap up show, our fan mail
bag just got loaded with comments in different I don't
how do I say suggestions? Wondering if maybe there's a
little asterisk next to your title last year.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Oh interesting. Yeah, I don't tell me. Why what? What
did I do wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I mean, I can't I can't speak for the people.
I can't say that I agree with the flooding. But
I think it was like stuff along the lines of,
you know, level of difficulty. Maybe, I don't know. I
don't know. I thought you did I thought you did great.
I thought it was fantastic. I learned a lot from
you last year and picked out some dangers. So those

(01:42):
are my words.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Those are not your words. But some unnamed fan of
the show. You know, we do have so many so
it's hard to hard to know. Yeah that that tracks.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
It was vocal.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Damn it vocal. I thought you were on my side.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
But anyway, we're officially into the off season now. The
Dodgers just won the World Series Game five that just
ended literally minutes ago, and so we're getting into our
off season episodes where Matt and I have perused all
of the mud and all of the unpopular and unwonted
prospects of every organization and picked out a hitter and
a pitcher that we are going to I don't know,

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keep an eye on, wondering if maybe they're due for
a rise in popularity. Two. I don't know, Matt. I
think like this World Series, the Dodgers were so much
better at the little things than the Yankees, and that
made all the difference, right. And sure, the guys that
we talk about probably aren't going to be any foundational
piece of your dynasty squads, your thirty teamers, your only leagues,

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but it is the margins and maybe you can win
on some of these margins and turn not much into something.
And so we've spent a lot of time months doing
our dives here, doing our digs video numbers, and we're
going to start sharing and a series of episodes will
go division by division and share our picture here selections
for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, and that's a good segue. You know, the season
just ended and now our real B siding season begins.
But the Dodgers are a good case study in getting
the most out of their entire roster. They don't waste
any of their roster spots, and they're pitching injuries this
year showed that they had to go deep. Like who

(03:24):
was on Ben Casparius coming into this year? You know
the Dodgers, Wow, such great pitching prospects. Land and Knack
and Gavin Stone and River Ryan, all these guys that
people loved is pitching prospects, Like none of those guys
did anything. I mean, Knack through some important innings, I guess,
but Ben Casparius is the one that started Game four. Sure,
that's the game that the Yankees won, but I still

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think that that's indicative of you never know where those
important innings are going to come from. Guys like Ben Casparius.
Those are our B siders that do that kind of contribution.
We're not here unearthing any sho Heo Tanis. Although he
didn't have the best World Series, maybe we're gonna find
and highlight some Freddy Freeman's. You know, he was a
well regarded prospect, but nobody pegged him as a Hall

(04:08):
of Famer even when he came up. I think he
was overshadowed by Jason Hayward, and even years into his
steady Freddy contributions, folks are still underrating him and he's
now World Series MVP.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
So our last show of last season talked about how
maybe we weren't so I'm happy with some of our
bat picks, and how maybe we felt we could have
done better there but you know, the AFL season's going on,
and now some of those guys who didn't gain a
bunch of popularity this summer are starting to get noticed
a little bit in the AFL. So never know, maybe
it won't be next year, maybe it'd be a couple

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of years, maybe it will be never. But nonetheless, some
guys that I have found interesting. I was actually pretty pleased, Matt.
I was a little nervous doing this dig this year
because of the way the minor league season went and
how the opinion is about prospects these days. But I
was pretty pleased. I found some guys I'm kind of
excited about to see the future here.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Well, I'm glad you're excited. I go into this exercise
the last couple of years like really not knowing what
to think. You know, I follow the minor leagues pretty closely,
but I also, you know, have kids and like a
busy at work, and so I feel like I didn't
have as much time to keep up during the season,
you know what I mean, with the goings on and
watch as many games and have guys pop up to

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me that way. So I don't know, this year, I
felt like I maybe was on the back foot a
bit with my selections, and Nate's already coming in feeling
confident He's got all his guys. He's like, he's going
to crush me. I'm nervous, everybody, I'm nervous. I don't
know if I'm going to be able to live up
to my dominating performance of last year.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Dominating. You pushed me like I didn't like. I didn't
like the way things ended. I can unequivocally say this
is the most extensive, deciding selection process I've ever put
myself through.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Well, I'm glad to make you step your game up.
At least hopefully our twelve listeners can benefit from your research.
And I, as usual, am half assing it and just
doing my work the night before. So I hope everyone's
ready for that.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
So we're gonna start with the NL East and I
think we're going to start with the pitchers.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
That sounds right to me.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, who you got what you're thinking? I'm super anxious
as always when we do these, to see who you're
going to throw out there.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
My Braves didn't win the World Series this year. They
had a super disappointing campaign. From the fact that they're like,
I don't know eight of their best twelve players missed
significant chunks of the year, including arguably their two best players.
So let's start with the Braves. The offseason begins anew.
They're going to be a dominant force again next year
when everyone's healthy, and I could see this B side

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arm making some starts for them next year. He is
a guy that we did mention this last year. He
wasn't my B side pick, but I liked him coming
out of the twenty twenty three draft as a guy
who hit the ground running and just performed right away.
And if you'll remember Nate, that was Lucas Braun. When
I looked, he was zero percent. And again, some of

(07:07):
my roster percentages might end up being a little different
to Nate's because when I pulled it down, all of
the data Fantracks had done their update and so there
was a bunch of wonky numbers, and so I've basically
only got guys that are zero percenters in my list,
but I know some of them are going to be well.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I can say I checked twice on him on September
second and September twenty second, and he was two percent owned.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Two percent. Yeah, that sounds a little more like it
to me, But when I was pulling the list in
early October, I guess it was he was zero percent
and even at two percent, like, I think this is
a great buy for me. Lucas Braun. He made it
up to double a this year, and a lot of
the things that I liked about his kind of pro

(07:51):
debut performance from last year killed true this year. He
walks guys at a better than average clip. He strikes
out twenty seven ish percent of batters. He had over
twenty percent K minus BB when you combined his levels
this year. He threw a lot of innings, which is
low key one of my favorite things about him. Through
one hundred and forty three innings, like against twenty four

(08:13):
games started. That's a starter's workload. Like that's something that
you can look at and say, if the Braves have
a couple of injuries Morton retires, say god forbid Chris
Sale and Strider I missed some significant time last year,
the Braves are really going to need some pitching. Max
Fried's going to walk. He's almost certainly not going to
resign with the Braves. There's going to be some innings
to be had in that starting rotation and no offense

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to a J. Smith Shaver and Herson Waldrip, but I
think Lucas Braun looks more likely as a guy who
can just step right in and take some innings. So
Braun for me, is really well rounded in his arsenal.
He's got solid command. It's not just strike throwing control,
although he does that well, and I think that he

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executes his off speed pitches exceptionally well. It's one of
my favorite things about him in that he kind of
reminds me a little bit of a former B sider
of yours, elder Bryce Elder. You really see out of
his hand like the slider, the curve, the change. He
could throw any of them at any given time, and
he commands them all pretty well to the different parts
of the bottom of the zone, which I really really
liked in my looks. So Lucas Brown for me, he

(09:17):
was a name to follow out of the draft for
me last year, and I'm making it my Braves B
side arm this year.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Nice. I kind of figured that you were going to
go with Braun, so I'd like totally skipped him on
my homework, So thank you for saving me some time there. Nice. Yeah,
the Braves. I mean there, they have a lot of
popular arms. I'd say to find a B sider you
kind of got to go pretty deep. You mentioned Smith, Shover,
the waldrop O, Murphy Hackenberg, Richie Laura Cueler, Camanitty, even Fines,

(09:49):
Garrett Bauman, Adam Mayer. Those guys are all two percent
or above. Admittedly not my favorite guy that I'm going
to talk about this offseason. Probably in the bottom third
of B side arms for me. But I'm gonna go
with young Davis Polo. I don't know if you've watched
him at all. Polo is nineteen during the season. I
think he might may have turned twenty now, righty six

(10:11):
to one listed six to one anyways, from Colombia. He
threw fifteen games twelve starts at Augusta this year. Maybe know,
not crazy good surface numbers. I don't think I struck
out twenty and a half percent, walked five percent, just decent.
But what I liked about him, he's a little bit
of a I think maybe a Budding like kind of

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spin spin guy. He throws his slider a lot. I
don't know, I don't know necessarily how great that would
grade out on stuff. Plus metrics and things like that.
No idea probably can't pitch the way that he does
when he moves ahead here moves up. I mean he's
liable to throw his slider just like six seven times
in a row. T but it works at the A
ball level because he probably sits about ninety two ninety three,

(10:56):
I'm guessing something like that. I don't think it's a
totally dud ninety two or ninety three. I think he
mixes in a little bit of a change up too.
But a young guy who's getting an opportunity in the
brave Zord, you know, having some success. Yeah, I figured
i'd take it, give it a watch and see how
he may or may not progress here solid.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I don't recall watching much of what would you say?
His name is Yolo?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Davis Polo?

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yolo a bad joke there, but Davis Polo. I watched
a little bit of a video and you shared your
video as well, And I see what you mean about
the slider first nature, And even if things maybe don't
all come together for him to stick as a starter,
there's some interesting reliever potential there. Like just the way

(11:40):
it looks it almost it actually reminds me a little
bit delivery wise of Ryseolo glcias obviously stuff wise and
repertoire wise, it's a little bit different. But the kind
of the Whippi way that he comes at you, the
arm angle and then the good slider, I think those
are all traits that he shares with Iglesias.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
A guy this young at this level, I don't know,
you know, and difference between inconsistencies in breaking ball shape
or if there's any intention behind some of it. But
he does seem to throw a couple different shapes from
time to time. But yeah, I don't know. I thought
you could do a lot worse than Davis Polo here
for the Braves.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, and as far as the high prout names go.
Just while we're hearing the Braves, who do you got
in that at the top of this system? Because I
think there's a big four in this Brave system at
the top, and I'm curious where you're riding.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I am a big jare Richie hopeful.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I thought that's what you were going to say.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I mean, at least the glimpses that we've gotten of
his whole arsenal and his ability to use it and
execute it. I know he's coming back from injury this
year probably wasn't quite as good as I was hoping overall,
but again, I'll maybe give him a little bit of
a mulligan as he was coming back from injury. But
long term, if there was a guy that I like
had to marry and stick with, I'd go with Ritchie

(12:57):
m m Okay.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think that. I think he would
be my second choice, I'll say that, and I'm super
interested to see what he's going to do another year
removed from injury next year. So he's one that I
can't wait to see more of. For me, it's Murphy
Owen Murphy. I think he's my favorite of the arms
in that system. Will drip. I was excited about coming
out of last year's draft, but I think the command

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concerns remain and the Braves just haven't magically fixed that.
But maybe maybe that takes another small step forward. But
he worries me in that from a reference. And then
with Smith Shov like, he seems like he's got one
good pitch and if that pitch isn't on in his fastball, like,
if it's not U upper nineties, it seems like he
gets hit and he doesn't have good command of the

(13:42):
other pitches. So I'm nervous about either of those two
kind of big horses working out. But Murphy, Murphy and Richie,
to me, both I think have ye a lot.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Oh, I kind of forgot about Murphy. I'd maybe go
Murphy over.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Richie again injured, so we'll see how he comes back.
But he was absolutely electric in his opening to this year,
and I was, I was pretty smitten.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
But I will say that I probably value both those
guys pretty closely.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, And I think they're they're in
a tier.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I'll drop on Twitter at pitching specs videos of my
selections here. I took some time and cut some of
those up to just add a little supplement to the
show here, all right, Miami Marlins. So you know they're
they're pretty boys. They're more popular looking at like Robbie Snelling,
Noble Meyer, Thomas White Maser, wusuck Go is rostered at

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eleven percent, tax Fulton still like seven percent, Monte Verdes
four percent, Jacob Miller mill Brandt were both in at
two percent. But I got a guy that I like
a lot, a lot more than most of those arms.
And I'm going with young kinder Benitez. I don't know
if you've watched him at all, Matt.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
I haven't.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
But at the same time Eliezer, dish May and Benitez
both got called up to a ball about the same time,
and I dish May was kind of a buzzy name,
but I was finding myself a little bit more smitten
with Benitez here. And I know Clegg too just recently
is touting him a little bit. But we're talking about
another teenager. I think he was what eighteen this season. Yeah,
he got in thirteen games at a ball. He threw

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fifty seven and two thirds innings there to a three
point one two ERA one point two whip. He struck
out twenty four point four percent, walked almost eleven percent.
You know, lots of decent video of him being down
in the newly like well covered Florida State League. I
don't know if there's anything like super loud in the arsenal.
He's a lefty. He probably throws I don't know, ninety

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three ish, but he's got like the full kit. There's
a slider, there's a curveball, there's a change up. If
Clegg was was has been touting him a little bit.
I imagine there's probably something underneath the hood that he's into.
But I just think that this is potentially a really solid,
like some of all parts, very young prospect here, and
what I mean we're talking he could he could maybe

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be nineteen years old and in Hi, right, I mean,
that's that's pretty nice. I know there's there's some walks
and stuff like that, obviously, but a younger guy. He's
far from from wild to me and out of control.
I think he, for a teenager, is trying to execute
a pretty sophisticated plan mixing his offerings. So yeah, I'm
gonna go with beneath us, and he's probably like right

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in the middle of my thirty arms, maybe a little
bit to the back half. As far as how i'd
line them all up.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, I think that kind of tracks. This Miami system,
as you said, is a bit top heavy. I think
a couple of those top end arms you and I
both really like. I mean, I know Thomas White is
one that we both are are big fans of, and
Snelling and Maser both we've had some positive things to
say about in the past. I don't think we're alone
in that those guys are all good. Going further down

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the ownership in this system, I was pretty I struggled
a bit and ended up with a guy that I
would say is in the bottom ten, maybe bottom third definitely,
i'd say of the of the arms that I came
up with with a couple of guys in the system,
and it's worth noting Austin Roberts. He's a Rule five
draftee from I think Pittsburgh, maybe originally that Miami grab

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and Roberts. He's a reliever only, but kind of like
my arm from the system last year, Anthony Maldonado, I
think he's got the chance to be a pretty high
leverage reliever. The stuff is, you know, fastballs like mid nineties,
but it's a nasty changeup, a decent slider, and it
just looks like this is a kind of nasty back
of the bullpen guy. Maybe as soon as next year.

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So again, Austin Roberts, someone to peep for your reliever
specking in those deep leagues. I also really considered Will Schomberg,
who was a Mariner's arm. He was really good with
the Mariners and I was pretty interested in him, But
I forget which trade that was that he got sent
to the Marlins for anyway. I can't remember who that

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was for, but he was like atrocious after he went
to the Marlins swing and miss still was there, but
he was walking everybody. And it's a small sample, so
maybe it was just like new regime having him work
on something. I'm not sure he's one to watch because
I was pretty interested in what he was putting up
in Seattle and then it just backed up so much
in Miami in a way that I hate personally, like

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the high walk guys, so I stepped away from Schomberg.
He might have the most upside of these these three
guys that I honed in on. But the guy that
I'm going to go with, and again I'm not super
excited about it, is Jake Brooks. He's a college righty
out of UCLA who I saw a little bit in
when he was there. Kind of feels Johnny right handery
to me, like it's good strike throwing ability. He walked

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fewer than five percent of guys this year, didn't miss
a ton of bats for a college guy in mostly
low A. He was still only missing like I think
ten and a half percent, And as far as swinging
strike rate goes which is pretty low, and it was
didn't come with like a super high ground ball rate
or pop up rate or anything. You know, He's pretty
standard johnny right hander. I did like that he will

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attack with a solid three pitch mix, goes to his
change up a lot, and it's a decent pitch. The
fastball just isn't explosive. I don't think it has great shape,
so I can't recommend him a ton, but I liked
that he still managed to get pretty solid results even
with like a kind of I don't know, subpar, putrid,

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borderline unplayable strikeout rate. I expect that all to rise
a bit unless something significant changes about his pitch mix,
and maybe with the new organ there in Miami, they
can mold him into something a bit more in the offseason. Yeah,
there's a decent starters foundation, and in terms of the
pitch mix here, it's a simple delivery, and he had

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a couple of pretty nice outings to end the year.
There's something there that's like, you know, maybe a sixth
or seventh depth starter up and down guy in a
year or two, but not a glowing endorsement, but still
my guy for Miami this year is Jake Brooks.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, once you got as kind of their more popular arms. Like,
I'm just looking at my short list and I was
down to a bunch of nineteen year olds in Schomberg.
Not much in the uppers that got me too excited
from the unpopular guys. Benitas was one percent rostered in September,
Brooks was zero percent. Matt the New York Mets. I

(20:21):
won't lie. I'm kind of excited about this pick. Probably
my top ten B side arms. I'm going with young
Wellington Arisania just how you say it, And man, I
know this guy is like so up your ally because
he rocked a twenty three percent walk rate and a
ball yep. Now mind you that was six outings thirteen

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and one third innings. But he does have a history
and rookie ball of the high walk rates. But Arisenia
is six ' three, big righty from the Dominican. He
was just nineteen years old this season. You're talking a
fastball that can touch triple digits. I wonder a lot
about what his secondary game might end up looking like

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or being don't think he really has a natural feel
for spinning one. I think they gave him a cutter
to try to work with. And of course the walk rates, right,
that's a big thing. But I was really impressed with
a few of his outings that were televised, the video
that I'll share that one doesn't look like a guy
who walks twenty four percent of guys or whatever. And

(21:25):
if you look at his game logs, it's kind of
like walk zero, walk zero, walk zero, walk six, walk six,
walk five, walk zero, walk zero. Make of that what
you might? I don't know, but you know, I think
there's a lot of kind of a big boom here.
I watching him, I think of watching like Justin Martinez
back in like twenty twenty one. I think there's some

(21:45):
similar similarities there, and very curious if there's a similarity
in like the actual shape of fastball. I think there's
like some natural cut there. But this is guy and Matt.
You know that, I don't like guys who walk a
bazillion dudes. I think there might be some hope here.
I'm wondering if a lot of the wildness can't just
be I don't know, maybe cleaned up with some more

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consistent mechanics or something like that. I don't know, but
like I said. A couple of the looks that I saw,
I was, I was pretty blown away. They have him relieving,
you know, some extended three inning outings and stuff like that.
We'll see what they do with him. But I got
to imagine you got to arm this lively down in
a ball. I would think that you would want to
give him a shot at starting and see how that

(22:27):
might go. So my hope is that that's the plan
and he gets some more extended looks a ball and
he harnesses in a pretty nasty powerful fastball and develop
some of that cutter or slider, and I think he
could he could put up some big time numbers in
a ball if that all happens.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Yeah, you're right, not on my radar at all, and
you're likely right that walk rate sounds sounds probably why
I didn't prioritize watching any of Arisania. Yeah, Mike, I
again couldn't be more different. Again, this is like both
of our approaches to this particular exercise. I definitely tend

(23:05):
lean towards more like college arms that maybe they've got
something there and they could be quick moving. And that's
definitely the fish that I tend to shop shop for.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I have brought up three teenagers, so funny you have,
I know, but it's more coincidental. My next two are
not teenagers.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
And again like the guy that I'm going to talk
about next for the Mets is recent college right handed
starting pitcher Jack Weininger. Weninger. Yeah, he's a writy I
think at an Illinois if I recall correctly, decent in college,
but not like a big prospect. I think he even
got like lower than slot. Deal didn't pop on my

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college arms to watch lists from last year, but I
really liked what I saw out of him. This is
like a top half arm for me, with a chance
for more. As far as the B sides go. Is
the look of a kind of standard righty in that
it's mostly a three pitch mix. Think that there's a

(24:09):
chance for a little bit more stuff, like like the
stuff is more.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
He has some like Johnny right hander traits, which I
used more as a pejorative at times. It's you know,
a ninety two to four mile an hour fastball. The
slot is like upper three quarters, so it looks like
it has okay ride without being elite. It's you know,
not like Jonahtong right over the top with a ton
of ride, kind of arm angle, good slider that the movement,

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the shape of it varies a little bit, but is
a useful pitch. And then I think his go to
is a changeup that he'll throw to either righty's or lefties.
But he knows how to deploy that arsenal pretty well.
And he ended in High A this year, had like
kind of split his year half at A ball half
at High A, and had a really pretty nice run

(25:01):
to end the year there in Brooklyn. His last start
in particular, I would suggest people get out and watch.
It was six innings of one run ball, ten punch outs,
and he was like he was earning these punch outs too.
It wasn't a lot of like called strikes or crap competition.
Like he had been promoted into HIGA and National's lineup

(25:21):
was okay there at the end of the year, so
I thought he looked really solid.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
You know.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
He put up one hundred and fifteen or so innings
across the year, so there's like a solid platform for
him to start the year again at High A, maybe
end the year in Double A or Triple A if
things continue to coalesce for him. I could see this
as a kind of four or five arm at peak
in the major leagues.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Like it.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
He just looks a lot like a major league right
hander that's going to have some He's gonna have a
season or two that looks really good. There will definitely
be some bumps in the road because I said, nothing
is outstanding, but of it put together, he's a real pitcher.
And I was impressed with a number of my looks
at him.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Right huh. And you're not alone there. In September, Weninger
was one percent rostered. So there's a few fans now
during the season Weninger and Austin I think Trosser is
how you say it. We're both putting up like some
some good looking lines in a ball. So I turned
them both on. They're both they're both righties, and I
get them confused, So help me out here. I remember

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one of them I really liked, I really liked the
spin game, did not like the fastball game. And then
the other one was the opposite. So Weninger what his fastball?
It's which one is? Ta? I get them confused in
my in my ead.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
I don't know if i'd classify him as either. I mean,
like I said, his fastball isn't overpowering. Reminds me a
little bit of He reminds me a little bit of
a guy that has the three direction movement profile right,
Like the change up really dives, the fastball stays fly,
and the slider really breaks glove side like that. It's

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got that movement profile where all of the pitches separate
pretty well. I guess maybe the fastball isn't quite as good.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
He he doesn't have a great curveball, and he's more
of a changeup first. I think the change up is
a little bit better. So maybe he's like the guy
that he liked his fastball a bit.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
And and yes, I think maybe I think maybe Wininger
was the guy in my few looks that I wasn't
super impressed with the breaking.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Stuff Weeninger for me, yeah, like his his slider is
definitely his third best pitch, I think. And I love
that he goes right on right change up, Like he'll
throw that change up inside to righty's and they think
they gotta be quick to the fastball and swing over
this kind of diving change up. And I've been kind
of a bit of a thing for righties with plus
change ups in this exercise in the past with you know,

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Logan Henderson among among others.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, after you get past the more popular arms
in the system. Christian Scott wrote, Tom, Well, the seal
Hammel of still five percent, hanging on to Matt Allen,
Kelvin Ziggler and then your boy you wander was that
two percent? But after that, I gotta say I wasn't like,
I wasn't super into a bunch of guys. They got

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a couple first year player arms that I turned on,
but it was such a small sample size. You know
that Arisenia was pretty much an easy call for me,
despite how poorly it could maybe go. So if there's
like a big boom guy in the thirty arms that
I bring up like he might be it if you
want to live on that wild side.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
All right, all right, that's a bold call. But some
of your bold calls have worked out before, so I'm
not gonna pooh pooh it too much. Although I doubt
I'm going to roster that guy anytime soon, I'm not
gonna bet against him either.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
I didn't look at like rankings and stuff like that.
That's not true. I did look at Pipeline's thirties a
little bit, just to see if any of my guys
were showing up on there. But I did notice maybe
I was looking at some Rule five stuff. Regardless, I
think your boy long and hang and has Arisenia pretty
high on his mets list. Really, for whatever that's worse.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Let's go to the Phillies next, and I'll lead it off.
Of the five arms that we're talking about here, I
think this guy's my favorite. It's not maybe the profile
that I'm usually really wowed by in the I think
he's got some issues with control, like he walks a

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little more than I would like. But I kind of
loved his kitchen sink mix. So I'm going with Luke Russo.
Did you watch a bunch of Luke Russo?

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Definitely turned him on, But I did not make any
notes nat So he did not strike me as noteworthy
enlighten me.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
I think that's interesting because he does some things that
I feel like you really like. And the lead for
him is I think his breaking ball is a hammer,
like he was just throwing this to Riety's to Lefty.
He's a right handed pitcher, twenty three years old and
ended the season in High A he dominated dudes with

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this curveball, and it didn't matter the count, the location,
Like he would get a called strike at the top
of the zone, he'd throw it and it looked like
it was a middle middle fastball, and then these high
hitters are just whiffing right over it. The curveball was
the most impressive pitch, but I think he showed five,
maybe six pitches, depending on how the slider is classified,
Like maybe it's a slider, maybe it's a slider and

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a cutter. He looks like he had a fastball, a
four seam, but also maybe a two seam and then
a changeup mixed in there as well. So had a
lot of pitches and punched out twenty nine percent of batters.
I don't know, man, I was pretty excited about the
breadth of the approach, Like the fastball even looked like
it had some life, like a little bit of east

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west movement. But he stayed under it too, so I
wouldn't be surprised if its shape is like slightly above average.
Maybe you know, he wasn't getting a ton of whiffs
on it or anything, but it looked like it was
a hard pitch to square up, and like I said,
he was a fun pitcher to watch, like he would
approach each hitter kind of differently, and it definitely looked
like he was a guy that I threw on a

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few outings in a row, and it was interesting to
see that he was very unpredictable. A lot of these
guys you just kind of watch them for a little
bit and you know, oh, this is how they're going
to approach this guy. This is how they're going to
approach that guy. And Russo was not like that at all.
He the first time threw might throw a guy only curveballs,
and then the next at bat he doesn't show the

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curveball at all, and then the third at bat he's,
you know, coming in with the cutter, away, with the changeup,
up with the fastball, and then curveball middle strike three
looking because they hadn't seen it in two at bats.
That kind of depth of arsenal and none of them
seemed bad to me, has me as excited as really
any arm in that system side of Painter. So, he's

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one that I actually he was my favorite of the
five here in the National League East. The drawback for
him is the command he walks a little more than
I would like. And that's on the control side, you know,
nine point five walk percentage this year against the again
the twenty nine percent strikeout rate. But it's also the
some of these pitches are all over the place, Like

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he had outings where I think multiple outings that I
watched where he struck out the third batter but it
was a wild pitch and they got to first and
then he struck out the next batter again, you know.
So he did that a couple of times at least
that I saw. And his fastball command isn't very good.
So even though shape wise it seems all right and
he doesn't give up a ton of hard contact on it,

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at least that I saw, he also throws it for
a ball a lot, and so I think he's a
little bit inefficient as well. So definitely still some work
to be done there for Luke Russo. But I really
liked him. I just thought there was a lot of fun,
fun breakers in there, and a diverse mix and a
diverse attack, which is just interesting.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
But maybe Russ did that buy me there have to
go back and watch.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
I know who you're going to go for.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, in my Philly's arm I think is probably right,
but I'm going he's still too I liked him a lot. Yeah,
I'm going with I mean, we talked about him this
season several times, but I'm going with Ibsen Castillano. He
was two percent rostered in September, and this is the
most rostered arm that I that I will pick this offseason.
But just had to. Man, just felt too right. Nobody

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else really kind of blew me away or got me
nearly as interested. I mean, but to Philly's arms, you're talking.
This is after Painter Abel Tyler, Phillips, Seth Johnson, McCarry, Moise's,
Chase Nade, his Graves, Jean Cabrera. But yeah, Castiania, I mean,
he's got a really good fast ball. He's got can
be at times just a devastating breaking ball to both sides.

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Showed some lengthy through some fqos. I didn't notice though,
and something that I didn't think about this season. Kind
of wonder about his effectiveness versus lefties, especially you know,
a major league caliber lefty.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I wonder with how much he relies on that sweeper.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, yeah, you know, he may be a weapon short
of really getting to that next level. So you know
what's that give him a cutter. So that's something that
I kind of want to keep an eye on. But
if you're not familiar cast On, you, I think really
had a breakout year. He's Venezuelan, He's twenty three years old.

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He ended in double A. He got a little roughed up,
I think his second to last outing, but he had
some really dominant performances execution wise. Would I say that
he is like the greatest I've ever seen, No, he's
still he could still tighten tighten execution, I think with
all of his offerings. But I think with that slider
being so good at times that you know, he doesn't

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have to be the most precise guy. But I also
kind of think that this is He's the reason why
the Phillies had no problem letting Aldegari go. You know,
so we shall see. I'm hoping maybe he gets a
chance in the Biggs this year.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah, this is a big co sign for me, and
I would have picked Ca too, but I knew that
this is Nate's guy. He really was harping on how
good Iverson was really early in the year before anybody,
before I saw anybody else talk about him. So this was.
This was a Nate call through and through, and yeah,
I like Cassiano a lot. The strikeouts are there, the

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execution like it can get a little bit variable at times,
but he's a very good pitcher and I think he
does have a great shot to contribute to the major
leagues and soon. So I think you probably got me
beat on this one, but it's I just gave it
to you because I knew that he was your guy.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
His eight double A starts, forty and one third innings,
three point seventy nine ERA, a point nine to nine whip.
He struck out almost thirty one percent, walking five point
six percent. That's not too shabby.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Very good, Very good. All right, Who on earth did
you pull for the Nationals? Cause I gotta say this
was tough.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
It always is, man, it always is. Last year, I
just went with like a repeat and he didn't even
pitch all year because he was coming back from Tommy John.
But you know, it's so hard with minor league injuries.
We don't get a lot of information, but I'm gonna
go with who it might be the same story. I

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don't even know if we're gonna see my guy this year.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
If it's the same one that I picked. I'm gonna
laugh so hard.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
He was the first year college arm last year and
I was gonna pick him, but I was like, man,
I didn't really love it, you know, But now I
guess I do. And part of the reason why I'm
going with with Liam Sullivan it is it is who
had two starts this year and.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
It starts I know.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
And I think he went down with John I think. Yeah.
But dude, okay, so William Sullivan, you're talking. He's listed
at six to six. I don't know how many pounds
a lot here. Yeah, he was a thirteenth round pick
from Georgia in the twenty twenty three draft. But now
when you watch him, tell me if you think I'm
way off base here. But in the in the like
pitching evolution tree, he's like a I feel like he's

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like a cousin of like a like a maybe a
distant cousin, but a cousin of like a Herder and
Mitchell Parker kind of mix.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
He's got I see some overlap. He's got a big
like sort of curveball from the left side, like uh,
like Parker, and he was like built kind of like Herder.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Although although I don't know if I don't know if
you watched him last year at all, one of the
reasons why I got kind of excited. I mean I
use that very loosely, but wanted to pick him. Here
is our guy here lost a ship ton of weight
this last offseason. Dude.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
He was way bigger after the draft, and I turned
him on at the beginning here I was like, damn, dude,
they putting in the work getting fit. But I think
he a ball. I don't think he was going to
be there for very long this year. I mean he is.
He came out and dominated his first two outings, and
he's just he's too good for a ball. I think
there's some funkiness watching some of his releases and release points.

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They're just like his hand just like looks weird to me. Boy,
we're talking like us off toss and lefty right nine
ninety two, ninety three on the fastball, maybe ninety three.
But he's got I think a pretty good change up.
I think he's got two good breakers. I feel like
Sullivan kind of fits us that at least the guys
that we went with last year.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah, and I he was my pick for a lot
of the same reasons. I think the thing that I
saw in the brief little looks of last year and
this year for Sullivan was that he really had a
solid plan of attack for righties and for lefties. And
the curveball's probably the best pitch there, like the Mitchell
Parker that when he leans on that, he was stealing

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strikes all over the place with that is a big breaker.
But I also think he gets pretty good extension. So
his fastball played up pretty much when he was throwing
that in the zone, like guys weren't hitting it or
they were popping it up. It looked like that combo
was really tricky for both sides of the plate. But
then the slider that he would feature against lefties, like

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they looked awful against that pitch, I thought, yeah, And
then the change up, I agree with you. I think
it comes out looking kind of funky.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Because we don't get a good angle of him. That's true,
and there's and there's such a small size. Yeah, and
even last year, but yeah, yeah, I don't know, you
watch enough like I'd be willing to bet that this
stuff is pretty decent.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I again, This
isn't some like warning signal like oh my god, when
he comes back in June or July, you must pick
him up or whatever. This is more like remember the
name Liam Sullivan for when he does come back, because
if it looks like he did right before he went down,
he's going to be a fast mover and might be
the best arm in the NATS minor leagues like immediately,

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because the only other guys that are worth a shit
are high up in that system and are going to
be major league contributors really soon. Everyone else that is
like low ownership and in the NATS system is poop.
Like it's so bad.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
You're talking Cavali Secora, Susannah Rutledge, Klemmy Brad Lord was
maybe their big like B side breakout.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Yeah, yeah, you you noted him out of the draft
last year, right, like that was one that you had
sound like might be interesting. I don't know if I did,
but one of us did, like we I remember talking
about him a bit.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, and then like then like you're saying, even there
guys that are like six percent down Cole Henry head
whack and Cole Henry no, thank you. Yeah, I mean
part of taking Sullivan is like, I actually am legitimately
interested in him and seeing what he does when he
comes back. The rest of the guys, I'm like, I
don't really care. Although I think you did pick a

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I thought you picked a pretty decent NAT's B side
last year. Though Andrew Alvarez had a really good year,
he's still rasted at zero percent in September. I'd take
I'd take him over half those those other guys we
just listed.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Yeah, you know, and I considered going back to that well,
but it's just like the strikeouts are not going to
be a thing for him, and the walk rate ticked
up a little bit this year. I think he's really
going to struggle to be a useful Yeah, big leaguere
not that he won't maybe make it and get some starts,
and in a super deep league, maybe that plays for you.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
But yeah, Sullivan, he felt like, you're kind of guy too. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
I wondered when I was going deep in this and
I was going to take somebody that had like very
few innings on under them, I was like, I wonder
if Nate's going to take this guy too, because there's
not a lot else to lie.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
And I was real close to taking them away. I
actually had like his video last year, like cut up
that I was, but yeah, I don't know. I checked
out at the end.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Because well our first shared pick.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, there we go, and those have done well, Matt,
when we come together, they.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
We both like a guy that that has generally gone
pretty well.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
But with Sullivan here, he might not. Even if he
does take off or do well, that might be well passed.
Like pop up season really might be the bat J.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
He got TJ in April, so that's early in the
season at least, so you know, call it fourteen months.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
But I do like the man. I think the potential
of him like moving quick to get him like caught
up like I think, is very much there. So who knows,
Maybe we see him in double A at the end
of the last of next year. Yeah, all right, So
those are our NL East B side arms for twenty
twenty five, Matt.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Now guys in there, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
So this's when we talk about those loser hitters.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
There's some good ones in here. You can't say there's
losers in this in this bunch.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
They're losing.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
I know we've got I know we've got at least
one overlap here.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
All right, the Atlanta Braves. Matt, you're is it what
your second team?

Speaker 4 (42:40):
They're my They're my original, my first team. Can't you
tell by my Southern accent.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I actually was kind of surprised. I found a young
bat that I really liked quite a bit in John
heel Gil Healing. I think I was calling him one
because on the broadcast they call him. I think like
it's like a it's like a but but John Gill
Jan Heel g Al Yeah, but a young Dominican who

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got in thirty nine games at a ball. I know
there's a couple of Discord members that I think are
interested here, but I might be. I mean, I don't
want to give away my my draft stuff, but this
is one of my more favorite B side selections this year.
It's a shortstop listed at six ' one. I think
that's probably about right. He's kind of interesting because I

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think he's way more athletic than the build. Might you know,
aesthetically he might look. Now, I time this on video,
so you know, take that for what it's worth. But
he had well it's on the video. It's on the
video that I'll share. But from out of the box
to first or no from from contact to first he

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had like a four. I think, yeah, yeah, it was.
It was super fast. And that was just from the
video the video editing timer, So I think he's super fast.
I really tried to make an effort more this year
Matt to watch defense on guys. I tediously went through.
I can't say there was really a lot to see
from him a shortstop. You know, some of his games

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weren't broadcast. There was a lot of like charging a
ground ball, making a nice throw. I didn't find any
like diving stops or anything like that. And he didn't
hit a home run in a ball. But I did
catch a complex game where he hit a home run
and there was some like game day stat cast stuff
or whatever, and he hit a ball one hundred and
five point one four hundred and eleven feet, So you know,

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maybe there's a little pop in the swing. But I
like the look of him. I like the look of
him at the plate. Thought he had some pretty nice
at bats, seemed very much in controlled and you know,
eighteen year old kid didn't seem like out of his element.
In one hundred and fifty nine played appearances, like he
only hit two oh four slug two fifty five. You know,
nothing out standing there. He struck out twenty three point

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three percent of the time, he walked twelve percent of
the time. But I think Clegg had noted some some
metrics and stuff that he was interested in. But yeah,
a young shortstop here that I kind of like the
look of, and you know, maybe he can he can
pop like some of the young arms did last year.
For me, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yeah, I like heel a bit too. The speed and
athleticism are definitely his calling cards, and he's got a
solid plate approach. I would say, I wonder how much
that's going to hold up, considering I don't think there's
gonna be a ton of impact in the bat, at
least that hasn't really been a part of his game
so far.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
He had three complex home runs this year, for whatever
it's worth.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Yeah, and to be fair, the lower miners for the
Braves aren't great places to hit in general, So that's
something to note that even if the power doesn't really
show up next year, he's he's young enough that even
hater aide me with the whole projecting power thing, I
still think there is some time for him to grow

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into a bit of power and the speed seems real
and he does have a decent idea of the strike
zone and he's an up the middle defender, so all
those things are positives for heel and I like him
quite a bit too. He's a solid B side pick
in this org.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah, and part of it also too is I probably
just wasn't really super in love with a lot of
bats in this system at this raster percentage.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Yeah, though the Braves have been a fruitful B side
and ground for us. Joe had another really solid year
and Drake Baldwin was maybe my biggest success last year,
and Grisom in the past and Grissom in the past,
so this is another one. And I kind of considered
going for the guy that looked a little bit like

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that archetype this year in ej Xposito, Like I really
flirted with him because he does have that well rounded
profile that we like and has some similarities with some
of the other guys, like not elite power, but a
solid glove, good speed, And I did consider it because
I liked quite a bit about Exposito, but I went

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a different direction, and you know, I'm not in love
with this pick, Like, I don't think he's going to
be in my top half and not in consideration for
my draft for the bats. Just to tip my hand
a little bit, but I'm going with Ethan Werkinger this year.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
That was my runner up.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Yeah, yeah, he's an outfielder. They slotted him in all
three slots. I think he can play a decent center
field and would be maybe a hair above average in
left or right defensively speaking, just from the looks that
I got, I think he's pretty fast too. He's a
right handed hitter. But I got a sub four second

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time on when he beat out and infield single to
second base. It was like a two hopper did the
second basement field of like just just to the shortstop
side of second base bag. But he beat the throw
like pretty easily, and I got like a three seven
time on that run. But I think there was something
weird with how the broadcast cut the video, like it

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definitely wasn't actually a three point seven second time, but
it looked plus, which made me sort of surprise. That
he only swiped nine bags in a full season. That
was a bit weird to me. So I caught six
times and got caught six times, so like maybe he
just is a crappy bass stealer. I don't know, but
he seems fast to me so and ran a decent

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babip too. There's not a ton of power here. He
popped twelve homers over five hundred and forty five played appearances,
but he spent a lot of time in hya and
double A, which for the Braves are horrible parks to
hit home runs. We noted that with Drake Baldwin last year,
so I think there might be a little bit more
power in in the bat. There nuked a homer off

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of Casey Hunt that I saw, who was really really good.
You know, we didn't talk about him a ton this year,
but he's somebody that I threw on.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Was it off his fastball today? Yeah, highly skeptical.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Of Yeah, it was off the fastball and he missed
the spot, but it was still nuked.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Like.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
He put that one out by a lot. So I
say that just as like hitting well off good pitchers,
it's not something that is necessarily indicative of anything in
the future. And his Nate said that Hunt's fastball is
definitely his weakest pitch, but it was just a nice
a nice signal that working your he might be a

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little bit better than he He seems from the surface
line stats and has the look of a fourth outfielder
to me, like if things break right for him. So
I again, this isn't a stud for me. This isn't
a sound the alarm kind of thing. But I liked
the well rounded of the approach and think there might

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be a little bit more under the hood.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Yeah, and I think he's in the AFL right now.
I think I don't think he's getting a lot of
run though I don't think I done anything too remarkable.
He is Rule five eligible this year, but I doubt
anyone would would snag him.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
I doubt it as well.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
It kind of checks out. I kind of feel like
he's got a bat ball profile that kind of fits
you a little bit.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Yeah, and both heel and working dur both zero percent
on September twenty seventh, zero percent rostered.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Let's go to Miami because I think this is my
favorite guy.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Oh really, I'm interested?

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Okay, yeah, really like this cat by far my favorite
in Miami's system and is Yeah, I'm pretty excited about him.
His name is Ryan Ignofo. Wouldn't be surprised if people
haven't heard of him. He's a converted catcher, so he

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is a is a catcher for but didn't catch in college.
And they were just like, we think you're a good
player and athletic, go behind the dish, and I'm usually
super skeptical of that. Like catching is the hardest defensive
position in the game, it is rare that this kind
of conversion works out swimmingly. But I didn't watch a

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ton of his defense. I still think it's a bit
of a work in progress. But that's not why we're here.
We're here because I think this guy can low key
rake and his swing is kind of hilarious. I wish
we had some of the batted ball like attack angle
stuff that they've teased in the major leagues and they
have some of that in stat cast, because this guy

(51:44):
might have the flattest swing in minor league baseball, and
it's super short. He's a short dude. He's like five
to nine. I think he's listed on Fangrafts super short levers.
He is really athletic, looking like almost looks like he
should be a running back somewhere, really like deceptively fast
and strong and bowling ball. Ass has some in common

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in that with like Gustavo Campero, because he swipes bags
a lot, like he's I think he stole twenty one
bags this year, struck out eleven percent of the time
across the low A and high A. This year, only
hit six homers, so again, like power isn't a big
thing for him, but he again swipes bags and he

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hit thirty four doubles. That is a lot of doubles
in four hundred plate appearances. Yeah, like he is a
doubles machine. Because this this motherfucker just like line drive,
line drive, line drive and corner to corner. I watched
one game. I forget who they are playing, but his
first step out of the game was like a two
strike slider off the plate and he just hits a

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laser opposite field past the first baseman like liner, easy
stand up double. Later in the game it was like
an off the plate away change up. I think that
fooled him and he kept his hands like super short
and just still line drive over the third baseman's head
and hustle around to for a double. Uh, the exact

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opposite way. But like line drives, either direction and same result.
So dude just like hits tons of doubles and steals bags.
Seems like maybe they are gonna let him stick at
catcher because he only caught this year. Yeah, I think
it was my favorite guy of this bunch, just because,
like I had no he was not on my radar

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at all before this exercise and has like some ty France,
light ty France, but athletic kind of thing to him,
Like he's never gonna hit a ton of homers, I
don't think, but he doesn't swing a miss. He's pretty
aggressive in the zone and just hits line, drives all
over the place. So yeah, kind of a fun guy.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Ryan Ignofo, Yeah, he was a twentieth round pick out
of Eastern Illinois in the twenty twenty three drafts, so.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
This last last rounder.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Yeah, No, I like that. He was definitely on my
short list here. I kind of himmed in had There
are several guys that I thought could make for a
great B side call in this organization. That wise, I
was surprised to see Andrew Pintawer was only one percent
roster back to September, So that was kind of like,
I'll go with him for sure, that's a no brainer.

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But that felt a little I don't know, I didn't
really feel b siding to me, like, I think he's
a you know, he's probably gonna be roster more than
one percent once the new season kicks off and people
start catching on, especially now. He's having a pretty pretty
hot little run in the AFL right now too. So
there's that.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Yeah, he's a good he's a good little player.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
He'd be yeah, for sure. Came over from the Diamondbacks
and whatever trade it was. I still am interested in
Wilfredo Laura pick from last year. Ye. And I think
Jared Cerno was is kind of interesting to me as well.
He was in September. He was at zero percent interesting

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I know. And he's like top ten guy on according
to a pipelines list.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
For them, And yeah, I amount still too.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Yeah, And so it was HInM in hard a lot,
but and I went with a guy who esthetically I hate,
But I'm going with Johnny Olmsted.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
I don't interesting.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
I don't know if you've seen any of him, yeah,
a little bit at the plate, Matt, he looks like
he belongs on the Carolina Mudcats, right. He's got like
this horribly awkward big leg kick I don't care for.
But I can't really argue with the results that he got.
I don't think he started an a ball. He end
up in Double A twenty three years old. He was

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their nineteenth round pick in the twenty twenty three draft.
From USC five hundred and fourteen plate appearances, he hit
fourteen home runs, stole thirteen bases, walked eight percent of
the time, struck out eighteen and a half percent of
the time two point fifty one three twenty two, four
h nine slug a. Playing shortstop again, I tried to
pay some attention to defense. I think he's pretty decent

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at short He's got a bad ball profile that I
don't think looks too shabby. I don't know if I
included this in the video or now, but I feel
like when he was an able, I got something that
he hit pretty hard or fairly hard, but you know,
maybe a good balance approach, a little bit of hit,
a little bit of pop can play up the middle.
Thought I could do much worse. Just maybe close your
eyes when you watch him bat. There's I liked.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
I liked Olmstead too. He was on my short list
as well. I kind of dig the kind of goofy
leg kick and oddly flat swing. That's the thing for
him too that I thought was funny in watching him.
But no, I like him too, and he does seem
like that kind of well rounded player that is worth
keeping an eye on. Yeah, I agree with you though.

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I like a lot of the guys in Miami system
and the guys at the top.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
I think when Cleig was righting them up, he's like, man,
they got a lot of guys. He doesn't know, like,
you know, they got a lot of sexy guys, but
they just got a lot of solid prospects. I think
after their trading and recent drafts and every like that.
But both Olmstead and Ignafo zero percent rostered cool. And
you know, I imagine if those guys are Holm said
will probably start in double A. They started putting up

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some decent numbers. Of course, that's going to get some
more attention.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
We got for the Mutts.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Ooh, the Mets, So the New York Mets. Matt this
is my first dip into this year's first year player pool,
so of course that's a little tricky. You know, we
don't know necessarily what the roster percentage will be after
first year player drafts are over and everything like that,
but I figured he was a fourth round pick out
of North Carolina State. I feel like fourth round picks
don't get too popular, right Kapis was a third round pick.

(57:35):
He didn't get too popular right after first year player drafts,
so I thought it was safe enough. But I'm going
with Eli Serrano the third Matt. I gotta say, once
you'll start to notice a little trend here, once we
start getting through some bats that is kind of an
opposite of a big trend of ours from last year.
I won't spoil it for you. Let's see if you

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start to catch on a little. But Serrano right field
center field this year year. You know, post draft he's
a lefty six ' five taller leader guy. He only
got more tongue and small sample here. Seventeen games, seventy
two played appearances, not totally new to me. A name
that's totally new to me. I think he was fairly

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highly ranked by Perfect Game coming out of high school.
Got I don't even know if NC State was the
first school that he went to. I think he might
have went somewhere else, but don't quote me on that,
but I think, just like Power didn't really show up
as much for a bigger guy like this. I don't
think he hit a lot of home runs in college,
but he did hit two in his short stint here.

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I think I shared some of the ex of velocities
and stuff like that on the video. He can run
a little bit. He's athletic. Well, his walk percentage was
about ten percent, struck out twenty two percent of the time.
But just like sort of just in game stuff that
I liked to Like he slugged four forty four at
ISO over zero point two. Just like the look of
his swing. It's almost me like I'm taking another shot

(59:02):
at like the Gavin Conticello hope, kind of similar, similar
to but probably but probably more athletic than Constell. Like
he may legitimately be able to play center field. We
shall see. I saw I I on the video. Mat
I shared a kind of a fun play. He hits
this ball. It's I think it's like the bottom of
the ninth or whatever, right or maybe even extra innings,

(59:23):
And he hits this ball off the center field wall
low and it takes this like really weird bounce. Evidently
the camera doesn't get it. I think they were down
by one. They send them and he's going around third
trying and inside the parker. They call him out at
home but I slowed down the replay and showed it
and everything, and I don't think Homeboy was out.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Oh that would have been a fun one.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
But he can he can move a little bit like
the stroke. Hopefully it doesn't go the route of Contacello
this year and the power doesn't really show up. But
I think there's some some punch in there, so I
don't we'll see maybe a later round, first year player,
draft flyer and some deeply.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Yeah, kind of a smooth looking swing. He's not been
on my radar, so.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
I'll do third, all right. And I think I think
Clegg gave him a fairly decent placement on his Mets
list that he just came out with the other day.
I know he was I know he was on there,
which wasn't the case hasn't been the case with some
of my other picks. I don't know how I feel
about that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
But yeah, I have not been keeping up with Cleggs lists,
partly because I wanted to come into this exercise pretty
pretty fresh, and partly just I haven't had as much
time got to prioritize. Yeah, I ended up really liking
the cyclones for the Mets this year, and maybe it
was just like towards the end of the year that
a few of these guys kind of surfaced for me.

(01:00:43):
But I wanted to give a nod to Jesus Bias,
who I think we've talked about before. He ended up
in Brooklyn and still like a lot about what he's doing.
I think there's still some significant upside there as a
fairly exciting youngster. I also wanted to highlight Boston Borrow,
who I think for the prospect heads out there, he's

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fairly well known. He was a relatively high dollar signing.
I think he was committed to UCLA USC something like
one of the LA schools. Ended up getting enticed into
the draft with a pretty big overslot offer from the Mets,
and I liked a lot about him and he was
pretty close to being my pick. The thing with him

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that I'm a little worried the power isn't going to
show up in any significant way ever. Like his swing,
He's a left handed, kind of smooth swinging, pretty athletic
looking third baseman, maybe played some second two. Fairly athletic
looking guy. Swing reminds me a little bit of Christian Yelich,
but I don't think he hits it nearly as hard

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as Yelich does, which holds him back a bit. If
the power does show up and he remains still pretty young,
I think he was nineteen this full year. If the
power shows up, like he could be a pretty good
second bateman, I think maybe maybe third baseman. But the power,
it just had me questioning whether it's it's gonna show up.

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Just he's still really skinny. He's really just doesn't seem
a ton of impact. But I like the swing, like
the swing path, I like kind of the line drive approach.
So he's one that I was pretty interested in but
ended up shying away from due to the power. But
the one of his teammates in h a I ended
up really liking, and stop me if you've heard this before,

(01:02:28):
because it's similar to another guy we talked about. He's
sort of an really athletic for the position catcher in
Christopher Swaow. He's got strong contact skills, swiped twenty bags
this year, but also popped nine homers, threw in quite
a few doubles, a few triples. Like he's a legit
athletic catcher. There was one game that I watched where

(01:02:51):
he got plunked in the dome, like just right straight
to the helmet, like first pitch, fastball, right to the helmet.
They like paused the game like hey, are you okay?
He's like yeah, fine, still second base on the next pitch,
which I love that kind of stuff, like screw you pitch,
like you dumped me up and I'm next pitch steals
the bag easy. I don't think it even got to
throw off at because he had such a good, good read. Yeah,

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you know, he's still young, he's twenty. He made it
up to high A. He's done nothing but hit in
pro ball so far. So Christopher Squearrow, I'm pretty interested.
There was one at Bad in particular, where somebody left
a slider that caught too much of the plate. Like
it wasn't, you know, hung or anything. It was just
maybe a little bit caught a little too much of

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the plate on the outer half and a little bit
too high, and swear Ow nuked this thing to left field,
like showed some real power. I wish we'd had EV
on that because it got way way out in Brooklyn,
And that one was really kind of over my eyes. Like,
I think there might be a bit more power there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
That's not an easy place to hit either, right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
It's not. So he hit well there and had a
solid overall. Again, if the power were like a half
grade better, I'd be way in Unswear just because the
rest of it, Like he's got a really good plate approach,
solid contact skills, and I'd be I'd be like hammering
the go get this guy kind of thing. But the
power is probably below average, so you're really looking at

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like maybe this is a multi category producing catcher. And
I didn't see enough of his defense to really have
an opinion about whether he's going to stick there. But
but yeah, Christopher Swerrow I liked. I liked a lot
about him. And there were quite a few of these
guys in Brooklyn in particular and in the Mets system
overall that there's something interesting about them. Yeah, but Swear
is my B side guy this year.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
I like it. I don't know if I got anywhere
with this, but I was looking around because he's I
think he's from the US, but he was an international
free agent.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Saw this when I was doing some research on him.
But he was like a pretty big prospect in the Northeast,
like did some Tmusa stuff. I think maybe that's where
I first saw him, and then he went to the
Dominican or something to reclassify as or maybe Puerto Rico.
I forget, but he yeah, he reclassified and signed internationally.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
I think they had him playing a little bit of
left field in some first base as well. Ye, yeah, no,
I like that. I think I was just trying to
stay away from taking catchers this year. I was really
challenging myself, so I think that was the main reason
why I kind of stayed away from swear. But I
dig that, all right, Matt, my Phillies bat again. Probably
not very shocking or surprising with my Phillies calls this year,

(01:05:32):
But I'm going with Otto Kemp naturally.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
I mean we've been we were talking about him this
season a little bit. Yeah, he's making some noise in
the AFL. Has been pretty hot. Most interesting to me,
as Clegg and I have been pointing out in the
discord of latest he's hitting some hard hit balls in
the air, which was something I was wondering about and
skeptical that he would do much. Now, of course, this

(01:05:59):
is just Arizona. A couple of weeks, so I'm not
going to make too big of a deal about it.
So he started off in a ball made it all
the way up to Triple A. He hit sixteen home
runs over the course of that season. The majority of
them were while in Double A. If I'm not mistaken,
and reading is a very hitter friendly home run friend
that it is. So that gets me a little bit

(01:06:20):
skeptical about his home run potential here. But he'll steal
some bases. He had twenty bags over that, like we've
talked about. I think he's perhaps potentially kind of like
the demographic profile that you like of a guy who
could do a little bit of everything. He can play
in the dirt, he can play in a couple spots,
hit for average, perhaps hit for a little bit of power,

(01:06:41):
steal some bases. Undrafted free agent twenty twenty two. Undrafted
free agent out of a D two school in California.
But yeah, I think he's definitely turned some heads and
I think he's a bona fide potential big leaguer who
was rostered at zero percent in September.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Yeah, so this is a co sign for me as well.
I figured it would be. There were a couple other
guys in the system that we can touch on, but
just to give my two cents on Auto Camp, I
think he's got a shot to be a big league
regular second baseman. I question whether he's going to get
to the power that you might need out of a
third baseman, like a first division regular third baseman, but

(01:07:19):
he could play as a fifteen homer fifteen steel guy
at second base with solid contact skills. I really like
his swing. I think that he's super balanced from the
right hand side. He's another guy that gets to a
lot of doubles power but has athletic enough to kind
of beat out some infield hits and hits line drives.

(01:07:41):
I actually really like his battleball profile. And I know
that you and Clegg have been kind of going back
and forth about he needs to hit more flyballs, and
I'm not sure that that's his game.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
But to me, it wasn't so much like volume wise,
just because we got a little bit of like stack
cast stuff with him in Triple A and a ball.
You know, Son, stackass as hard as hit balls, and
I went back and would watch the video album more.
It also just gives you the description it was like
his up there ninety percent of most of that stuff
was in in the ground. Yeah, and you know, he

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hit one hundred and two mile per hour home run
or whatever, which is fine. But what I think has
been a little bit noteworthy noteworthy of this AFL is
he's hit some home runs one hundred and ten and
he hadn't done that. He had done that all year.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
So I do think that that's an area where if
his ground ball rate ticks up like it did at
Triple A in the kind of small sample, that could
get him in trouble because he doesn't do enough of
the other things, like really really well to kind of
cement a spot. One thing I did note he was
one triple shy of hitting ten triples this year to
go along with twenty some doubles, what was it, sixteen

(01:08:49):
homers and twenty swiping twenty bags Like that's that is
super rare that you get double digits across all of
those hit types and he was just one triple shy
of doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
I like Auto Kemp a lot. I think he's going
to be a big league regular for a few years
at least, which is a great outcome for this kind
of a pop up guy who nobody was on out
of a Division two school, so and he big thumbs
up on Autokemp.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Yeah, and he was kind of he was doing some
loud things in a ball like obviously earlier this year,
I wanted to watch, you know, TJ and uh, you know,
I'm like, who's this Kemp guy hitting some home runs
and doing whatever? And you know, you gotta be careful
sometimes you're like, oh, he's twenty three, twenty four in
a ball like well, by the end of the year
he was totally age appropriate, you know, all that stuff.

(01:09:43):
And I like his splits. We're pretty decent this year.
I'm nothing too concerning there, man, I think and we could,
like I think Clegg mentioned we could see him in
the big relatively soon, I think. And this seems like
a great B side sort of free pick up in
a thirty two in like points league or even rot
oh or whatever an only league like now, keep an

(01:10:05):
eye out or shoot take him in your in your
supplemental draft if you if you want a little infield depth,
and shuffle him back and forth if need be in
your league allows that, Like, yeah, I think I think
Kemp is super interesting, dirty muddy potential fantasy asset.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
Here, yep, I agreed. I think there's a couple of
other interesting guys and this is some worth shutting out
the season that Carson Taylor had. I'm not like on
Carson Taylor as a big league regular. I don't think
he's gonna catch or break through as a first baseman
that way. But he had a really good year and
walking a ton, hitting for decent power, not striking out much.

(01:10:45):
So I just want to give a hat tip to him.
That was a super impressive year. And even Keaton Anthony
I liked a lot of what I saw from him too.
It wasn't flashy again, not a lot of power, and
I think he basically only played first base. But every
time I watch that team of fair amount and every
time where was he in? Reading a bit and the

(01:11:05):
fight and fills what's their hi? A film?

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
It's oh, hia is a Jersey Shore?

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Jersey Shore?

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Yeah, the Blue Claws, Yeah yeah. So I watched him
a bit there too, and he I don't know, he
had a really smooth approach I always thought at the
plate and didn't strike out a lot, which I am
biased a bit towards that. I wonder if maybe it's
worth it for him to trade a bit of that
contact skills for a little bit more power. Like he's

(01:11:34):
a guy that maybe if he does some off season
training with the tread or getting the bat speed up,
that might He's the kind of guy that if you
see some reports around that, like, I might be really
interested and watch his first couple of weeks pretty closely,
just because he does the rest of the hitting part
really really well. If he strikes out like twenty two
percent of the time, but now a ISO was like

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two hundred, that could be a big league first baseman.
But as is, he's in interesting contact oriented first baseman,
which tough path to walk to the bigs. But maybe
there's more in there, Like he's got a good frame
and everything too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Undrafted free agent out of Iowa in twenty twenty three.
But yeah, it's at first base, right right handed first
base sort of yeah thing, But yeah, I mean, can
he can swing at some for sure? They got a
couple of former b side Marcus Lee saying is doing
some things in Triple A, playing some center field. He
was a little interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
I got Buddy Kennedy. I can't quit him. I love
that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, the Phillies are always interesting, man,
in my opinion these days, on both sides, arms and bats,
they always got some guys, all right, Matt, we're always
saving the best for last year. Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
The Washington Nationals, they've got plenty of good young prospects.
It's just when you get get to these levels. I
don't know, man. I think my least favorite bat that
I picked, I don't even really have any good reasons
other than he was very young and playing in full season.
He's got his dad was a major leaguer, and like,

(01:13:10):
it's not like reasons to love a prospect, but you go,
that's where I'm at with this organization, and there they're
zero to like one percenters. But I was gonna go
with Rafael Ramirez Junior. His dad was shortstop for the
Braves for quite a while. And then I don't know

(01:13:30):
if you were playing fantasy back when he was a shortstop,
but that just reminds me of like how horrible shortstop
was for fantasy. When I first started playing, it was
like one or two guys, and then after that it
was like Rafael Ramirez, yeah, whatever else. But Ramirez came
over from a trade in Cleveland. I don't even remember.
I think I put in the video or something, but

(01:13:52):
I don't remember what the trade was he. I mean,
his numbers were awful. Combined his two A ball stops
with both teams hit like one eighty three, two ninety nine,
three oh six. I think two of his three home
runs were broad broadcast. One was awful. One I got
a good look at. I don't think he's a shortstop.
I think he's maybe a second basement and I think

(01:14:12):
it's because I think he's got like a noodle arm.
Honestly saw him have to make some throws from deep
shortstop and stuff, and it was I mean it was rough.
But he's very young. Maybe he's got a chance. I
can't say that he's totally done for or anything like that,
and I don't know. It's interesting to me that the
Guardians had him like starting off the season and playing

(01:14:33):
in a ball They got a lot of good young
guys that could be playing up the middle for them,
So I thought that was a little bit interesting. And
who knows the way that the Nats roll because of
his name. Maybe you see him in the futures game
and he really probably doesn't deserve to be there. But
maybe that gilds popularity, but that's it. That's all I
gotta say. I didn't have I didn't have any any

(01:14:55):
guys I really liked here, So throw him out there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Surprised we weren't gonna go for is he pineda again
after his sixteen WRSC plus this year, you weren't going
to go back to that well for a third time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
No, No, the man he made the big leagues like that,
he did. I didn't pay much attention to him this year.
The Hope boy. They had to have been like hurt
or something like.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Yeah, he only got like half a year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
I think, yeah, something right there. Plus man catchers man
so so volatile.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Yeah for sure. Yeah, I mean, I hear what you're saying.
Rafael Ramirez Junior. I owned him when he was with
Cleveland on a couple of teams, I think, And I think,
oh really, I think Cleig even had had shouted him
out as a potentially exciting full season guy either coming
into this year or something, and so I was like
holding on in a couple of places and hadn't watched

(01:15:46):
him much. But then I watched some of them this
year because the stats weren't ticking up and I was like,
I think, you know, roster crunches whatever. I think I
ended up cutting him loose in a couple of places
I had him.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
I brik out the time. Well, let's not talk about
him anymore. This is not worth it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Yeah, and my my b side pick here isn't great either,
Like my notes on this guy are. I don't think
he's going to make it as a regular, but there's
something here in the uppers that maybe he carves out
as a below average fringy guy. Philip Glasser is my guy.
You know, he played some second, some third, little bit

(01:16:23):
of outfield too, you know, so so some utility almost
in three hundreds.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
A little bit about him. Yeah, and he just got added.
He just started playing a little bit in the AFL.
Just oh I didn't see that, Okay, Yeah, he just
got like added to whatever team. Nice.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Yeah, he almost hit three hundred. He was honestly pretty
close to having a four hundred on base. I like
his plate discipline skills, definitely good contact, but I think
he makes pretty good swing decisions too. Has a bit
of a hand rock, you know, he kind of starts
his hands like almost in front of his face, not
quite Luis Kempensano in San Diego, not quite like, but

(01:17:00):
has some resemblance to that from the left side, and
you know, he gets some back, but I feel like
there might be some more impact in there if he
got rid of that like weird rock thing. But his
contact skills, like I said, are quite good. You know,
he only struck out fourteen percent of the time this
year made it up to double a. Yeah, only eight homers,
but he did pop twenty three doubles, so it's like

(01:17:22):
more gap to gap power Again. He looks to me
more like a light hitting utility guy who maybe he
plays decent enough defense that he'll accumulate a little bit
of PA's and the bigs. But I wasn't blown away
by this. He's in the bottom ten percent probably of
B side hitter selections. For me, I just think, like,

(01:17:44):
maybe he makes it, but if he does, there's not
going to be a calling card. You know, he's swiped
twenty three bags, but I didn't think that he was
like particularly good at it. So anyway, I'm not super
sold on him. This NAT's B side system has been
tough for us.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Yeah, I agree, And I kind of had a feeling
that you would go with Glasser, So that's kind of
why I crossed him off, because I didn't want Glasser
to be a guy that we both Yeah, fair Go
signed down because I didn't think it was that good.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
I agree with that, I love, I didn't love a
lot of other options in our range, and Frankly at
the high end too. You know, I'm a little bit
of a stinker about some of their bats, but yeah,
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
I did almost go with Sam Peterson, yeah, my eighth round,
and I'm a little bit familiar with him from college.
But there, well, there was like seven games he didn't
really do anything, and I was just like.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
Some bags showed the speed, which I watched a couple
of those. But no, he was. He was on my
short list, and I think Frankly probably is a better
upside pick than Glasser, but we just got to see more.
So he was more of a like, let's keep an
eye on Peterson.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Yeah, there wasn't even like anything to like make a
good video with with Peterson highlight. But yeah, the Nats
not really our most exciting place to mud the last
couple of years. Matt. Yeah, but Glassroom a mirror as
both zero percent as they probably should be although I
think classer maybe falling more into that potential thirty team

(01:19:15):
or like guy, it might get you some AB's relatively soon. Yeah,
I'm Matt, is that did we run through twenty guys?
Do we do it?

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
I think we did? First off season B side pod
in the books? Is this like season two for us?
We're gonna do seasons?

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Yeah, we're kicking off season two. What else are we
going to do in the off season? Man, talk about
some potential losers potentially now losers.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Maybe get some sleep at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
I appreciate you hanging out with us, came through some
of this. Some of these guys are gonna are gonna
get more popular, Like that's just gonna happen. Some of
them we may never speak of again. Who knows?

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
We'll always speak of them again? Will if only to
throw it in each other's face that we made such
terrible picks.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
That's true, but I will. I think last year, even
though it wasn't the most maybe the most fruitful or
as fruitful on the bat side that we wanted. I
think at least the guys that were total stinkers, we
kind of knew that they were probably going to be
total stinkers. But nonetheless I like to go through every organization.
It makes me really do my homework and pick one
guy I guess throw it out there. All this kind

(01:20:19):
of really stems from the question of like, hey, which
guy from this org this list that you made made
do you think might pop up this year? And these
are my best stabs at it, These are our best
stabs at it, I.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Think so indeed, indeed.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Maybe some of that will help you out. Maybe not,
I don't know, but you can follow me on Twitter
at pitching Specs. I'll be dropping videos of these ten guys,
and then if I have some time, maybe I'll make
video of some of that's guys and just give you
a little visual to go along with that next time around.
I don't think we've decided what division we're going to
do next, but we'll do another one and do this

(01:20:52):
five more times, maybe have a little bit of a
draft sort of thing, and then we'll maybe get into
some first year player stuff this offseason. That sound good?
Love it?

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Love it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Right on? Well, thank you and be well. We'll talk
to you next time.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
See you later.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Five miles an hour riding to his head, he hopped
down the first with the lump on his face, and
on the very next pitch he up and stole second face.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
With gretest speed. He wasn't born. He had the dirty
yes uniforn

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