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September 4, 2024 95 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is Maya as a Hero with Psychic Protection Sanctuary
and we are now starting our free Zoom class for
members of our Psychic Protection Sanctuary Facebook group. And today's
free class is a book launch. This is a class

(00:28):
where we're going to be talking about my third book,
The Dark Side of Spiritual Healers Teachers and Light Workers.
The subtitle is Abusive, predatory and Supernatural Behaviors Behind the
Facade of Love and Light, but for short, we just
call it The Dark Side of Spiritual Healers. You can

(00:50):
find it on Amazon in kindle and paperback version. The
audible version will come later. Today's class is really a
discussion focused class. So whether you are here live or

(01:10):
you're watching the replay somewhere, I encourage you to participate
by sharing a comment in the comments section if you're
watching the replay or using the chat option if you're
here live on Zoom. So welcome everybody. We're going to

(01:33):
start with a little bit of reading. I'm going to
be reading today. I'll be reading three different sections, three
little snippets for you, and we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Be having some discussion. Okay, so we're going to go
with the flow.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
And the more discussion we have, whether it's in the
replay comments or those of you who are live, the
more discussion we have, the better, So don't hold back. Okay,
So I'm going to put out my glasses here. I'm
going to start off kind of in the middle of
the book.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm going to start off by.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
A little reading, and then I'll do a little teaching
and we'll do a little discussing. So I'm going to
start off by reading page ninety eight. This is a story.
This is a composite story. What that means is I've
worked with a lot of clients over the years who

(02:31):
have had very similar patterns of issues. And because client
histories clients stories individually are private, I've taken the main
themes of the patterns that I've seen with these clients
and created composite stories. So these are very realistic stories.

(02:57):
This one in particular, very real stick based on all
of the things that I've seen. So get comfortable and
it's now story time. Okay, The Dark Phoenix. Let me
make sure we're still recording. Okay, The Dark Phoenix. Adam

(03:21):
had always wanted to work with a shaman, so when
his aunt told him about Phoenix, forefeathers. He was intrigued
and wanted to learn more. Phoenix had a spiritual center
just three hours away in a neighboring city, so Adam

(03:43):
jumped at the opportunity to attend her upcoming workshop. When
he walked into the event, his heart skipped a beat
in eager anticipation. The room was infused with a mysterious
sacred ambiance, dimly lit candle dimly lit with candles, the

(04:04):
exotic scent of incense smoke filled the air, and soft
drumming music played in the background. Participants were sitting on
yoga pillows in a semicircle. Then the music was turned
up to a loud, pulsing beat. As Phoenix four feathers

(04:26):
entered her room. Entered the room with a commanding, powerful presence,
a white woman. She stood tall, wearing a long African
patterned robe, large metal jewelry of various Middle Eastern and
Asian tribes, and four white feathers dangling from her long

(04:48):
auburn hair. Her appearance was stunningly beautiful and it was
impossible to discern her age. The music volume was gradually
lowered and added. Could hear Phoenix's jewelry jingle. As she
sat down in front of her students, Phoenix began by
describing her early beginnings. Growing up in Michigan. She had

(05:11):
lived a completely mundane, mainstream lifestyle until at the age
of twenty two, she took mushrooms and had a vision
in which she saw four white feathers in the sky.
When she came out of the trip, she felt she
should become a shaman, so she moved to New Mexico
to begin her professional shamanic practice. She explained that she

(05:34):
had had various past lives as a shaman in different cultures,
and this was where she drew her power, knowledge, and authority.
Adam was mesmerized by Phoenix's presentation, and he hung on
her every word. She seemed so wise and enlightened, unlike
anyone he.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Had ever met.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I am going to take you on a journey, Phoenix an.
Now we will be astral traveling together to the lower
spiritual realms. A fifty something man in a white tunic
and Khakis raised his hand. Is there anything we need
to know about keeping ourselves spiritually protected while we're doing
this process? She snapped at him. It is not my

(06:20):
job to keep you safe. The real world is filled
with all sorts of dangers, and the same is true
about the spiritual realms. What happens to you is up
to you. The man nodded, and so Phoenix Forefeathers took
them through an intense guided astral journey that lasted about
ninety minutes. Afterward, they drank sacred cocau and shared their experiences.

(06:47):
A couple of participants reported that they felt really disoriented, dizzy,
and nauseous, and one of them ran to the bathroom
to throw up. That is completely normal, Phoenix waved her hand.
They are just integrating the energies of the journey. Adam's
journey had been amazing. At first, all he had seen

(07:08):
was blackness, but then he saw an image of a
forest where the ground opened up and he was sucked down, down,
down into the earth. He was then greeted by a
huge raven guide who sent messages directly into his mind.
Although he could not remember the messages or the rest
of his journey, it all felt intense, powerful and captivating.

(07:32):
After the event, he drove drove back home feeling euphoric
about his day. He felt a bit woozy and ungrounded,
but he was also exhilarated to have finally found such
a cool shawman to guide him in his spiritual pursuits. Unfortunately,
things started to turn strange two nights later, when he

(07:54):
was startled out of a deep sleep. Turning his head,
he saw that the red light the alarm clock showed
three point thirty three am. Something didn't feel right. He
sat up in bed and blinked, then rubbed his eyes
because he was certain that phoenix forefeathers had been standing
at the foot of his bed. When he looked again,

(08:17):
though no one was there. He shrugged it off and
went back to sleep, but the rest of the night
was filled with nightmares. This strange activity continued every night
for the next two weeks, until finally Adam decided to
tell his aunt about these peculiar happenings. Being a bit
older and wiser, she knew that something serious was happening,

(08:39):
and that is when she suggested that he contact me
for assistance. The first time I met with Adam over Zoom,
I was quite concerned over what I was clairvoyantly seeing
in his energy field. His aura was completely black, as
were the irises of his eyes. He had more than

(09:00):
a dozen troublesome entities attached to him, most of which
I discerned had attached during the group astral travel journey.
And not only that, an alarming amount of his life
force energy was missing, having been absorbed by Phoenix during
her nightly astral visits to his bedside. Adam and I
worked together for several months getting to the bottom of things,

(09:24):
as well as unwinding and repairing the significant negative effects
of phoenix Forefeathers intrusions. Okay, let's talk about this, and
remember whether you're joining, whether you're here live or you
are watching the replay somewhere, definitely share your thoughts in

(09:45):
the comments section or in the chat. If you are
here live, I want you to think about even though
you haven't read maybe you may or may not have
read my book yet, where I list all of the
red flags for abuse and predatory spiritual teachers and healers.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Whether you've read that section.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Of my book or not, what do you think might
be some red flags in that story? What do you
think would be some red flags about Phoenix Forefeathers?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, what do you think I'm going to just bring
some things to mind.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
One of the things that a lot of people brush
over because they're just so excited with all of the
bells and whistles at a spiritual event, like the incense
and the cool environment and the way she was dressed
and everything, like all of that is always so compelling

(10:50):
that people don't stop to even acknowledge that this person
has no training. She has no training in shamanism. I mean,
I will point out there are some white, non indigenous,

(11:18):
some genetically non non indigenous people who are shamans in
our world today who are highly trained, and I will
acknowledge that that is true. But this person here not
only was not of indigenous blood, but was like had

(11:38):
this hodgepodge of all these different cultures, like total cultural
appropriation to the max, which is different than cultural appreciation. Right,
there are times that we can appreciate other cultures, but
she was just this hodgepodge of just like grabbing things
from other cultures, claiming I mean, I do believe in
past lives, I know many of us do, but claiming

(12:02):
that that's where your training comes from is like, I
think this total bullshit, Like you need to have something,
some kind of training.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
And this person was a mess. She didn't know.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
How to manage the group and if she even had
had a mentor or some training. Got to put my
close up glasses on. We've got some comments coming through.
Even if she had had some training at all from
a good mentor, they would have taught her at least

(12:38):
how at least something so that she wouldn't be doing
all this nonsense. Right, So, one of our live participants says,
one of the red flags was hoopooing protection. Yeah, you
would be shocked, or maybe you wouldn't be shucked about
how many people have this experiences? Like I said, this

(13:03):
is a composite story, but I promised you.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I mean, I've worked with hundreds of people.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know, I think many of you know that I have,
because you've been following me for years, And I've just
worked with person after person after person who's had almost
this exact story. Okay, Like they try to speak up
about protection and they basically get yelled at by the person. Okay,

(13:31):
I gotta read these close up comments. Another red flag.
It's not my job to keep you safe.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yikes.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, that the first time I ever heard that. My mouth,
my jaw like hit the floor. But I have heard
stories like that so many times from participants who came
under attack later and then they ended up coming into
my world and I helped counsel them, but they would

(14:01):
tell me that they would basically get yelled and me
told like, your safety is not my job and the
world is unsafe anyway, and you just need to keep
yourself safe. Blah blah blah. Your safety is not none
of my business. I mean, it's just super weird, very
super weird. So that is one of many stories in

(14:24):
the book. The book is a combination of stories but
also information that's laid out in a very clear way.
And let me see any comments. Thank you to those
of you who are participating today. Oops, yes, okay, just

(14:50):
I want to give a shout out to the people
who are watching. Of course, I want to give a
shout out to those of you who are here. Thank
you for being here.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's awesome that you're here.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I also want to give a shout out to the
people who are watching the replay. Many of you will
be watching the replay on the YouTube channel. The YouTube
channel is called Psychic Protection Sanctuary YouTube channel, and I
want to point out for those if you're new to
the YouTube channel and you're watching this replay, these are

(15:26):
zoom classes that we offer especially for members of the
free Facebook group Psychic Protection Sanctuary Facebook group, and so
only those.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Who join live.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Those of you who are here live get to ask
me questions directly right now.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
That is the only way that.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
You get access to me, unless you're signed up for
my academy, Spiritual Empowerment Academy, because I'm very busy supporting them,
and I don't have time to answer all the questions
in the free groups. So the way to ask questions
is to join the Facebook group and then join the

(16:08):
free monthly Zoom class. Okay, and also for those of
you watching on YouTube, just a reminder that we post
this zoom replay just basically as like a wonderful gift
out to the world, a gift to the universe. These
are not edited. We have We do have chit chat

(16:29):
here and a little bit of rambling plus really important
potent teaching all mixed in together. We don't edit these.
We just put them up there for you to enjoy.
So enjoy and enjoy. If you need polished, edited videos,
this is not the channel for you, but we love
you anyway.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Allison says I first found you via replays on YouTube
I'm thankful I found you. I am glad you found
as well. I really love I love.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
The YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I've had people suggest that I not do the free
videos anymore, and I have cut back on a lot
of the free stuff that I'm doing, but I do
just FYI announcement for everyone. I do plan to still
keep doing this once a month class. This is like
my anchor point one free class. And I have cut

(17:28):
back a lot on answering questions on the YouTube channel
and in the free Facebook group, but I plan to
still keep doing this because I just really enjoy putting
like at least one free video on that channel on
the channel each month, So I plan to keep doing it,
So stay tuned. Let's see, so this was our little

(17:52):
list of announcements. Okay, a couple more quick announcements and
then we'll get back to the book if you would
like more information and you need more support ops see
trying to manage the group here chat. We have one
person who's having trouble joining, and they're probably not going

(18:15):
to see that. They're not going to hear me say
this until they watch the replay. But if you ever
have trouble joining live and it's just not working for you.
Just leave and then try coming back again. That's the
magical mystery of zoom.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Can excuse me.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
So, if you are wanting more information on how to
work with me, about my group mentoring program, or my
books or anything else, I invite you to go to
my website, Psychic protectionsanctuary dot com and there is a
spot where you can fill in your email address and

(18:52):
you'll get a series of free gifts. It's an email series.
I don't email you every hour. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
There's this like.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know popular thing right now where when you
sign up for an email list, you get like twenty
emails a day from that company or that person, And oh,
I find that very annoying.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
So I will never do that to you.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
You will get an email every couple of days in
the new email series where you get the free the freebies,
lots of free bees and free free resources and everything.
And then after that, once a week or once every
other week, that's it. I'm only gonna send something if
I have something important to say.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Also, I have three books. They can all be found
on Amazon. The first one is called Darkness Disguised as Light.
That's my origin story. That is how I got into
doing this psychic protection work after twenty years of being
a feel good spiritual teacher who didn't want to look
at any of the negative stuff. I was all positive vibes,

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and some stuff happened and anyway, the book is all
the story of what went down, and it was crazy
what I went through. And that book also includes a
lesson at the end of each chapter, so there's plenty
of psychic protection teaching in darkness disguised as light. My
second book is like whammo psychic protection handbook for sure.

(20:31):
Second book is called the Psychic Protection Sorry, I'm getting
my words makes up. My second book is the Psychic
Attack source Book, the Psychic Attack source Book. And even
if you're not currently under psychic attack or entity attack,
that book is going to tell you everything you need

(20:53):
to know just in case. It's like you're Safe Driving Handbook. Okay,
like you're not going to assume that you're going to
get in a car accident, but just in case you
want to be prepared, and if you are going through something,
you definitely need that book. It is loads of information.
And then of course today we're here to talk about
the dark Side of Spiritual Healers, teachers and light workers.

(21:17):
And so let me ask you a question. Who has
read who has had a chance to read the book
The Dark Side of Spiritual Healers? Has anybody had a
chance to read it? And those of you who are
watching the replay, tell me if you've had a chance
to read the book. And my question to you is
what was your biggest takeaway? Did you learn something new

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or did you have a reaction to it. I've had
some people contact me who've read the book. Some of
them are spiritual teachers themselves, and they what they've said
is that they plan to recommend this book to all
of their clients.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Us.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
A lot of their clients will ask them for referrals, like,
you know, I want to go to this person for
a session. Is this person safe? And one one practitioner
told me, don't. I don't know every practitioner out there.
I don't know whether to give them a thumbs up
or a thumb's down when they ask for a referral

(22:22):
on someone. And this book, The Dark Side of Spiritual
Healers gives people. It's a handbook to help people understand
how to identify predatory or abusive behaviors, so that even
if you don't have a referral from someone that you trust,

(22:42):
you know, even if well, actually, I'll tell you the truth.
I've known a lot of people who've gotten referrals from friends.
Oh go to so and so massage therapist. He's great,
and the guy is a freaking sexual predator. So don't
always assume that just because there's a referral that the
person is safe. But anyway, so let me read some
of your comments. And I mean it. I really want

(23:05):
this to be a class that's very interactive. And I'm
also talking to those of you who are watching the replay.
Tell me if you've read the book or not, or
even a part of it, or if you've browsed through
parts of it and what you thought, or if there

(23:26):
was anything that really stood out to you. One of
our live participants says, I've read it and I am
now rereading slowly.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
When I was editing the.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Book, I noticed, because I read it from cover to
cover a couple of times to make sure it all
made sense and there were no major misspellings or anything,
I noticed that I was able to read it in
a couple of hours.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
And I'm not a fast reader.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
So those of you who are not fast readers, I
want you to know that you don't need to be
daunted by big thick book because this is actually not
too thick of a book. Oh many pages, is it?
It's enough pages that it has a lot of information.
It's one hundred and eighty five pages, but it is.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's a very easy read. It's not complicated.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's definitely a quicker read than the Psychic Attacks source book,
which is very dense with information, although very interesting. Allison says,
I bought all three of your books, but I'm just
finishing the first one. I've also heard that the first
one is a really quick read because I tend to
have a very conversational writing style that's not too flowery

(24:41):
or complicated. So as I'm sharing the story, people are
able to read the story pretty quickly. So it's just
an fyi for people who haven't read that book yet.
One of our participants says, I would recommend this one
before the others.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
So the person who made that comment, I would love
to hear why.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Why.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I mean, I can guess, but I want you to
tell me. If you have a chance, come back and
tell me why why you would recommend this third book
before the others. I'm sort of putting the pieces together
and considering why, Catherine says, I.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Want to get it for sure.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
While waiting to read your third Yeah, okay, oh oh oh,
there there's the rest of your comment. While waiting to
read your third book, I felt like I needed to
open book two to get a message.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Holy Molly.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Now, remember, guys, Book two is the Psychic Attack source book.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
That book is.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Really intense and it's an important book. Okay, don't let
the fact that it's intense scare you away. It is like,
you need this information. So Catherine says, Holy Molly. I
opened it and it was page eighty three, and my
eyes went to the second paragraph and OMG, so scary

(26:09):
fitting to what I'm going through. I'm not going to
pull it out and read whatever the passage was. But
if anyone has that book and you're curious and you're watching,
you can open it up and look and see what
she read. Yeah, I'm not surprised. I think it's a great.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Way to use that book to just like, what do
I need to know right now? And open it up.
The second book, The Psychic tect source book.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
One of our participants who said that she would recommend
this one before the others. She's answering my question and
she says, I just think it's a good place to
start being aware and trusting your intuition. Yeah, and also,
you know, people who read my books would tend to
be spiritual seekers. People who are spiritual seekers often want

(26:56):
some type of social connection as well, where they might
be going to a class, classes, events. Sure managing all
the comments here, oh, I apologize. When I was reading

(27:16):
all those comments, there was someone waiting to join Welcome Teresa.
I was busy reading comments and I didn't see you welcome.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Welcome.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
So a lot of people who are spiritual seekers are
going to different at least one or more healers, or
they're going to spiritual events, and it's really important to
be able to navigate what is safe.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
There's a whole spectrum.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Really, there's like this end of the spectrum, like as
far as things that are unsafe, there's like, here's the
things healers or spiritual events that are non beneficial, not.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Really a match for you.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
And then way over here on this end of the
spectrum is like super dangerous you're going to be like
majorly quickly attacked entities, black magic, or maybe under in
physical dangers as well, and or so there's there's a
whole spectrum where.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
It could just be a little bit not your cup.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Of tea, not beneficial for you, not really supportive for
where you are right now, all the way to like
mega dangerous. And so this third book that we're talking
about today, the Dark Side of Spiritual Healers, is going
to help you to develop that discernment so you will
be able to avoid those events that are not a
match for you. All Right, I'm the lady that wears

(28:42):
all the different glasses as soon.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
As I turned to fifty years old.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I need my close up, my reading glasses, my normal glasses. Thankfully,
I don't need glasses when I drive, I had lask
surgery years ago. But there's something about reading like middle,
like this piece of paper that's over here, and then
reading the phone. I need to bring glasses. So enjoy
laughing at all my glasses and my antics. Okay, so

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we just answered the question who has read the book
and what was your biggest takeaway? And I can't wait
to even though I did say I won't be able
to answer. I'm usually not able to answer a lot
of questions on the face on the YouTube channel. I
am looking forward to seeing some of your replies. I
encourage you to converse with each other, so I'll be

(29:34):
interested to read what all of the replay watchers have
to say about the book. What was your biggest takeaway?
So I saw there was a comment come through, and
then let's go on to the next part. Okay, Teresa says,

(30:02):
I have your first book, have not finished reading it yet.
Catherine says finished book one and I lent it out
then read book two months ago and remembered it was
so intense and validating. So when I mentioned I opened
it the other day, I hadn't opened it since. So

(30:22):
when I think, spirit had me take a random look,
and it was so perfect, but also reminded me how
scary validating it was. Yeah, those validations can really give
you chills, but the validation is important, I think. All right,
so let's take a minute.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Let's get a drink.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
In just a minute, I'm going to open things up
for you all who are here live to ask questions
about anything related to the book. I won't be doing
any free readings So if you have like your own
story and you want me to break down do a

(31:09):
psychic read on what happened and all of that. I
do that in my academy, Spiritual Empowerment Academy. I do
readings every single day Monday through Friday for members of
my academy, which you can find at Psychic Protection Sanctuary
dot com. So I won't be doing free readings, but
today for those of you who are here live, if

(31:31):
you have any questions about the ideas, the concepts the
next part. In just a minute, I'm going to open
it up for questions, any questions that you have about
any of the topics in the book, or even if
you haven't read the book, you know the title is
the Dark Side of Spiritual Healers and we're talking about

(31:52):
abusive spiritual healers. So even if you haven't even looked
at the book at all, if you have any questions
about abusive or toxic or predatory spiritual teachers or healers,
I'll be addressing those in just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Okay, So I wanted to give you a heads up
so you can.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Think and have time to type your questions because it
takes a minute on zoom for your questions to come through.
So while I were waiting for that next part, let
me take a minute and go over the title and
the subtitle and also why I wrote this book. So

(32:29):
let's break this down. So we've got a big, long title. Yes,
it is very long, and I had a shorter title
before that was just kind of more general. And I realized,
Number one, it's super important that it's very very clear

(32:50):
that we're not just talking about spiritual abuse, abuse of
spiritual teachers and gurus. We're also talking about supernatural stuff
in this book. I didn't want that to be a
surprise for people, like they think they're going to read
a book about, you know, abusive gurus throughout history, and

(33:11):
now we're talking about like black magic and all this
other stuff. So, uh, let's start off with the main title,
The Dark Side of Spiritual Healers, Teachers and light Workers.
So spiritual healers would be reiki practitioners, energy healers, massage therapists, acupuncturists.

(33:34):
We even have a story in here about a chiropractor.
There are a lot of chiropractors that kind of kind
of have one foot in chiropractic and the other foot
in like kind of esoteric practices in their in their
professional practice. And I'm not trying to throw any of

(33:55):
these areas under the bus. I want to be really clear.
We're not saying that, for example, that every Reikie practitioner
is evil. Okay, We're like, let's not jump to polarized
thinking here. We're not saying that, okay. But what I

(34:17):
am saying is that there are way more predators in
spiritual practice than most people would like to believe. So
we have the dark side of spiritual healers, any kind
of spiritual healer that you can think of, any type

(34:38):
of spiritual healing, teachers, spiritual teachers, so anybody who's teaching
classes on any spiritual topic or psychic development, or people
teaching energy healing or how to ascend to five D
or like you know, fill in the blank, any spiritual

(34:59):
topic at all, those who are in a teacher or
mentor or leadership position. And then also to complete the
umbrella that we're talking about, light workers, the dark side
of spiritual healers, teachers and light workers. So light workers
is just this big umbrella term of anyone who is

(35:22):
working in this field of spirituality. Okay, So let's go
into the subtitle abusive, predatory and supernatural behaviors behind the
facade of love and Light. So we already know that
there are abusive people out there. You may have encountered

(35:46):
a spiritual teacher who was very abusive to their students.
I know, we've heard many of us have heard stories
of gurus who and even gosh, there's some very prominent
yoga teachers in the news who have been very abusive

(36:08):
to their students. Again, we're not in any way saying
that all yoga teachers, all yoga trainers are abusive, but
there are some. We acknowledge there are some, and they've
been very prominent in the news. There are even documentaries
about some of these people. So abuse and then predatory

(36:32):
predatory implies that the person, the spiritual healer, teacher, or
light worker knows full well what they are doing. They
are in a predatory position where they are on purpose
targeting certain people, whether it's to take advantage of them

(36:57):
for money, whether it's to take advantage of them to
manipulate them into a sexual relationship, which I talked about
this in last month's class. But if someone is in
the position of spiritual mentor or healer. They should not
be having sex with their clients. Let's just be really

(37:17):
clear about that. There should not be a sexual relationship
going on anymore than you should be having sex with
your therapist or your doctor or your lawyer. Those who
are in a helping profession should not. You should you
should not be crossing that professional boundary. Okay, but we're

(37:39):
not just talking about sexual predation. There's all sorts of
predatory behaviors. It can be that the person is on
purpose targeting people so they can siphon life force energy
because they are misusing their spiritual abilities, their spiritual powers

(38:03):
in order to take energy from people instead of actually
helping them. So and then and supernatural behaviors. So here
we get into some really creepy behaviors with practitioners, spiritual healers, teachers,
et cetera, who are overtly or covertly practicing whatever flavor

(38:30):
of black magic so that they are causing harm to
their clients to control their clients, to keep their clients
hooked in so they can get thousands of dollars, thousands
and thousands of dollars. There's a common approach where they
will tell the person you.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Have a curse on you, and I can remove the curse.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
For five thousand dollars and then they get paid five
thousand dollars. Oh well, yeah, I took the five thousand dollars,
but there's more work that needs to be done. We
need to do this other step and that's gonna be
another five thousand dollars. And you'll never be free of
this unless I do this work for you. And it's
this like, it's not a sign of predation if a

(39:19):
person charges for their services, let's be really clear about that.
But this whole scenario of like telling somebody something scary
and then it's this like huge amount of money to
release them from a curse, that's a very that's a
huge red flag.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
That's actually a very.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Common scam approach of predatory spiritual workers. And some of
them are working with supernatural, you know forces, And what
they'll do is if the person says no, I'm not
going to work with you anymore, then the practitioner does

(40:01):
black magic against their client. So now the client is
being psychically attacked by their practitioner in last month's class.
So I'm not going to go too much down this
rabbit hole any further. But in last month's class I
taught one section of this book. One section of this
book is about the three types of abuse of spiritual teachers.

(40:29):
And let me just recap what those three types are.
The three types of abusive spiritual teachers and healers. Number
one the mental slash emotional abuser. Number two, the sexual predator.
Number three the dark healer. The dark healer is like

(40:50):
what I talked about, a person who will do will
psychically attack their client for whatever reason. It's ridiculous, and
I give example stories as well. So I will make
sure to post the link to the last month's class
in the YouTube. In this YouTube replay, I will post

(41:15):
that video in the description so you'll be able to
watch it if you missed it. Okay, and just real
quick before I get to your questions and comments, because
I see them coming through. Why I wrote this book, Well,
an interesting thing happened when I started working in the
field of psychic protection really back in twenty sixteen. After

(41:40):
being a spiritual teacher for a few decades, and when
I started to work more directly in the field of
psychic protection, something really interesting started to happen. I started
to attract a lot of clients who not just were
having psychic protection issues, but they were trying to escape
from abusive spiritual teachers or healers. And at the time,

(42:05):
I was living in the Kansas City area, and prior
to that, I was aware that there were sexual predators
in our spiritual community, and I had tried to work
with assisting with that issue, and I didn't get very
far because communities tend to protect sexual predators and other

(42:28):
kinds of predators. But I was aware of that issue.
But I really was so shocked when I found out
the level of other kinds of predators in the spiritual
community in Kansas City. But I'm not trying to throw
Kansas City under the bus, because the year before I

(42:49):
moved away, I traveled all around the Midwest on a
tour and went to all these different psychic fairs and
met people from all different communities, and it was very
obvious that there were just as many predators and all
those other Midwest cities. And then I moved to Arizona,

(43:10):
and I've had a lot of encounters with Arizona and
also California people as well. Let me just say there's
tons of predators out this way as well, it's everywhere.
And then, of course, over the years, through my online practice,
I work with people all over the world, so there

(43:31):
are people in many other countries that I've worked with
who have had to escape from really nasty predatory spiritual teachers.
So this issue is everywhere, and I felt like I
needed to get this information out there as a handbook,
hopefully to help people avoid these issues before they happen.

(43:59):
But you know, sometimes we end up because predators are
so slippery. Even when we have the right information, they
can These predators are so slippery, they can still lures
in a little bit. But with the information in this book,
you will recognize more quickly than you would before the

(44:24):
red flags and you'll have tips on how to get
out if you're already in the situation. So that is
why I wrote this book. I do encourage anybody to
share this book with your friends because the whole idea
is well, let me just back up and say, as

(44:46):
I mentioned before, I tried to help with the issue
of sexual predators in my community when I lived in
Kansas City, and that did.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Not work at all.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
The predators all they do is they just get better
at hiding and the community then protects the predators. And
it's not just sexual predators, but any kind of predators.
Because since I've removed to Arizone, I've tried to speak
up about other kinds of predatory things, and like the
community doesn't want.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
To hear it.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
So my approach is if I can help the people
who would be victimized before the victimization ever happens, so
that they have that information and then they don't get
sucked in.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Or hopefully this information.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Will help you heal if you were a victim of predatory,
of a predatory spiritual mentor hopefully this book will help
you feel heard and understood. Okay, so please share this
book because of that, because communities tend to support predators,

(45:57):
and predators are going to keep being rereditors because they're
just assholes like that. But the more we can get
this information out there, the more people who have this book,
the more people will have this information, and then the
fewer people will be available for these.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Jerk wad creditors.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Right, there will be fewer people available for the nonsense
because people will know better.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Okay, So let's.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
See comments and questions. Thank you for being here, everybody.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Catherine says, I'm sorry I'm late. I was lagging with Zoom.
I was having lagging with Zoom. Well, I'm glad that
you're here. As I was telling my academy students earlier today,
I don't mind if people are late. If you can
get here on time, great, But not everybody can get

(47:07):
here on time, and I'm just happy to see you
when you can get here. And I'm sorry the Zoom
was being a jerk. One of our participants says, it
brought to mind the many times I had an icky
feeling and talked myself out of it. I listened to myself. Now,
reading your comment makes me think about one of the story,

(47:30):
one of them. I share some personal stories in the book,
and the personal stories are one hundred percent true. They're
not composites. They are things that happen to me. So
I feel like I can share them because they're my stories.
And there was a massage therapist that came highly recommended.
All the women in the community raved about this guy,
said he was wonderful. And this guy, it turned out,

(47:53):
I got a massage from him. It was so gross.
I don't have to read the book book to.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
See that story.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
But I learned that same lesson as well that I
now if I have a bad feeling or an ikey
feeling about someone, a person, or an event or whatever,
I listen even if everybody else is like, oh no, it's.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Fine, everything's fine.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Well, for whatever reason, they're not seeing or sensing what
you're sensing. So trust your gut. Catherine says, FYI first
two books so good and easy to read. Yes, you guys,
Even though I said the second book is intense, it's
not a hard read. It's the kind of book that

(48:44):
you're gonna want your post it flags, you know, these
little post it flags and your highlighter and making notes
in it. And it's that that kind of book. But
it's it's easy to read. Catherine says, I've recommended you
to my therapist and many people that I was so
excited to discover you and lucky for your books. I

(49:08):
need number three now. Yes, I feel I want to
just before I read the rest of the comments, I
want to just make a little aside from my own perspective.
So here I am. I live out in the Arizona Desert,
I'm in nature. I'm like doing this spiritual work online,

(49:34):
writing these books, getting these insights and sharing my intuitive
insights and my personal insights professional insights. I have felt
for many years like I'm kind of like shouting into
the abyss, like.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Hey, everyone, this is really unsafe.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I'm talking about spiritual predators or false light entities or
the dangers of channeling or whatever this stuff that I'm
talking about, and I feel like I'm about ten years
before the rest of the world is ready to hear
this stuff. So I just want to say, I'm so
grateful to all of you who are here live and

(50:24):
those of you watching the replay. I'm so grateful there
are people who are also waking up to this other
level of truths that a lot of the spiritual communities
just aren't there yet. I mean, that's okay, people aren't
wherever they're supposed to be. But I have often felt
like I'm shouting into the abyss, Hello, Hello, he just

(50:48):
anyone hearing me. And I'm just so grateful when there
are people who who are helped by the mess that
I'm sharing. And as an intuitive, as a psychic who
sees forward in my timeline and other people's timelines, I

(51:09):
every time I check about this work and my own
timeline and all of that. I see that you know, this,
this the stuff that I teach is pretty pioneering. Uh,
and it's going to be a good ten years before
like more people really before more of the majority of

(51:30):
the spiritual community starts to wake up to all of this.
But you can help by you know, sharing this information
with friends. So thank you for being here. Thank you
for you know, being as insightful as you are, for
being stubborn enough to question the status quo. One of

(51:54):
our participants says, question, for teachers who don't set up
protection before spiritual work, do we set up protection ourselves
before meeting with them?

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I have so many emotions and thoughts about that. Okay,
I will start off by saying I don't have an
ultimate answer to that, gonna it's gonna be up to
you to decide what's best for you. But there's two avenues.

(52:29):
The first is, in some ways, I feel like like
I personally wouldn't want to go to a spiritual teacher
or healer who doesn't set up protection before they do
spiritual work. Like I wouldn't want to go to somebody
like that. That's me personally. I've got really tight guidelines.

(52:52):
Partly because I work with clients, and if I go
to a healer who leeches a bunch of their cooties
onto me, and then I pass that on to my clients,
I'm going to be pretty upset. And so I will
not go to a teacher or a healer. I won't
go to an event where they don't set well. I
have gone to events where they haven't set up protection.

(53:14):
I've taken part in psychic fairs that were very messy
and I had to do a lot of clearing afterwards.
So that's one approach, is to have an all or nothing, like,
if this person does not have training in protection, I
don't want to go see them.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
But some people might not want to be that strict
about it.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
For example, if somebody is really wanting to go have
a past life regression and they don't know how to
do it themselves, and they really want to go work
with a practitioner, they really feel drawn to do this,
but they can't find anyone, any practitioner who does pass

(53:59):
life regressions in their area. Let's say they want to
do it in person, go to the person's place of
business and have the session in person. They can't find
They just haven't found anyone who understands protection who does
that work. Then that person might make a choice like Okay,
I'm going to go ahead and set up my own protection.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
What I recommend for the students.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
In my academy is that you do There's a lot
of protocols that I teach for protection, but whatever your
protocols are, you set up your protocols for protection. You
send that energy forward in time to the session, to before, during,

(54:45):
and after the session, so that you're fully protected. For
those who are like I don't know how to do that. Now,
this person is in my academy and we go over
like we talk about how to do that. But if
you're wanting guidance on that, join the academy, apply for
the academy. So that's what I would recommend is definitely

(55:07):
set up your own protection. Don't assume that you're just
going to be fine. I have had a few experiences where,
like I talk about a story, I share a story
in the book about how I went to an acupuncturist.
I had been to acupuncturists for years, great experiences every
time until I went to this one and I got

(55:31):
psychically attacked by something that was attached to him. And
what I found was that even though I had my
usual protections set up, my energy was vulnerable when I
was on that treatment table, and so my own protections
just weren't as powerful. Because when you are in the

(55:56):
position of receiving a treatment from someone, there is explicit
or implicit consent given that they have access to your energy.
And once I had that experience with that acupuncturist a

(56:17):
couple of years ago, I'm sorry to say I have
not been to a single healer since then because that
experience taught me that even if I have my own protections,
I've got pretty powerful protections set up, but there's something
about that consent that's given for them to access your
energy during a treatment. It made me too vulnerable for

(56:41):
that person's entity to attach onto me. Now I was
able to remove it, and it was mostly removed by
the end of that day and fully removed by the
next morning, so there were no issues long term issues.
I had the skills to be able to remove it.

(57:02):
If not, that thing would have been attached to me
for years. If I had just been a regular muggle
who didn't know how to do my own energy healing.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I would have been in trouble.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
So, like I started off saying, there's no definitive answer
to this, I'm not going to say you should always
do it this way or this way. I think it's
going to be on a case by case basis, So
take what resonates and leave the rest. Okay, great question, though,

(57:35):
great question. I want to give a little mini rant
before I go on to the next person. So many
of my students over the years have told me that
from working with me, they know to ask questions of
a potential practitioner. They're thinking of working with someone, so

(57:58):
they ask the practitioner or the teacher, what do you
do to establish protection during your events? Or how do
you protect the space, how do you cleanse the space
before I come in for a session or whatever, And
so many of my students have said that the practitioner

(58:19):
will just give them a blank gaze, like I have
no idea what you're talking about, but blank stare like I.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Don't know, and that, oh my gosh, that is just
I don't know. I think.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I keep thinking my next book needs to be like
a training manual for healers. But I need a break
from writing right now while I focus on some other things.
But there needs to be training manual for healers, especially
for new healers and teachers who are setting up their

(59:01):
business their healing business without proper training because their mentors
were never properly trained and their mentors were never properly trained.
So you all who are here live, and you all
who are watching the replay of this, you are likely
way more knowledgeable about spiritual protection than most of your

(59:23):
healers or teachers. And that's just a fact, unfortunately, but
thank goodness, thank goodness, at least you have that knowledge,
all right, Teresa says, My reiki teacher allowed a couple
to psychically attack me during a class I paid for.

(59:45):
Totally messed me up and scared me as well with
what I experienced for months after several times a day
they attacked my heart and other things, teacher told me
to deal with it. I feel like angry tears want

(01:00:06):
to come out of my eyes from reading that, and
so sorry that happened to you, and it's so common
and all just FYI for everyone else. Also was common
is when the reiki teacher psychically attacks the student, like

(01:00:27):
all these crazy things that we wouldn't like we wouldn't
even imagine, like Teresa, would you have even imagined that
your teacher would allow that, or that that would even
happen in a reiki class. Of course not. I think
we would all assume that a reiki class is a
safe space. And if you were to say that it's
not a safe space, all the reiki people would be

(01:00:50):
up in arms, like, of course it's a safe space.
Reiki is safe. Well, reiki itself is safe, but there
are people that are not safe. Sorry that happened to you,
So sorry. I hope you are doing better now. Shame
on those that couple, and shame on that teacher. And
I mean that, Oh my god. Teresa says, Maya, thank

(01:01:16):
you for being here for us and teaching us. You're welcome,
and thank you for being here. I appreciate you. Catherine says,
I've been abused by mental health therapists in different ways,
and even a terrifying experience where he got me on
my bed and his hands on me terrifying, and a

(01:01:40):
palm reader in a house type setting like they have
told me I needed to pay like almost two hundred
dollars to clear my curse.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Oh no, they get you in there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
For ten dollar reading and then they scare you to
give a lot more. Yeah, so I want to clarify,
there's nothing just clarifying for everybody watching this. There's nothing
wrong with charging two hundred dollars for a service, especially
if it's in my opinion, so especially if it's something

(01:02:12):
that dangerous work like clearing out a curse, like if
they're genuinely going to do that, to say it costs
a couple hundred dollars because there is some danger to
that work. But this whole approach of like the switch
and bait, which is what it sounds like you're talking about.
They charge ten dollars for a reading and then they

(01:02:34):
try to scare you with this scary information to try
to get some money. That's a big red flag, big
red flag. The whole approach should be to help empower you,
to help empower you, Teresa says Maya. I have not
read your latest book, but does it cover on how

(01:02:55):
to handle when a person you go to for a
reading and they enter your home through astral travel. I
don't specifically talk about how to stop someone from astral
traveling into your home, but there are various what do

(01:03:22):
I want to call it references to non consensual astral
travel into your space. So we definitely talk about that
in different ways, whether it's a practitioner that you worked with,
a shaman or whatever, when they will then later astral travel,

(01:03:45):
even if they've never been into your home, they will
later actual travel to wherever you're at to mess with
your energy or to have astral sex, non consensual astral sex,
all sorts of things, all sorts of nonsense, con sent violations.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
There is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
A process that I talk about in the group in
the book. Most of the book is information about helping
you understand all of these red flags, and there are
some tips on how to approach things if you have
been abused or if you're in one of those situations.
But as far as the psychic protection, most of that

(01:04:26):
would be in my second book, The Psychic Attect source book.
But the third book, The Dark Side of Spiritual Healers,
does have one process in it for revoking consent.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
So if you've ever.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Given explicit or implicit consent to a healer or a
spiritual teacher or mentor that says that they can access you,
they can access you astraally or spiritually, et cetera. There's
a process that I teach on how to revoke that

(01:05:01):
so they can no longer access you. And she says,
I was shocked when I saw this guy come into
my room in a ghost like image of him. Girl,
you'd be surprised how common that is. It's shocking, isn't it.
And she says, I yelled at him and told him
to get out. He was not welcome, and his image

(01:05:23):
zoomed out of my bedroom window. That was a good approach.
So literally invoking your own power and making a strong
declaration of your own boundaries verbally and energetically, that was
exactly the right thing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
You don't even have to have a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Special spell or special occult knowledge what you did literally
shouting at him and setting that boundary. Look at how
powerful you were. You made him leave. Our emotion and
our words are powerful energetically, and you did it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Good job.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Another one of our participants says, thank you for doing
these free videos, Maya, it's an important service to the community.
I think so too. Yep, Teresa says Maya. Would it
be improper to give a psychic person a hug? I
learned the hard way that I'm an EmPATH. I have

(01:06:33):
been told by these people that when I give the
person a hug thanking them for reading, they feel better
physically and their readings are better that day after I leave.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Would that be a form of psychic attack. I wouldn't
call it a psychic attack.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I do think that there is an unintentional energy exchange
that's happening, and it'll be up to you to decide
if you want that energy exchange to happen or not.
If naturally you share energy as an mpath when you
hug people, you can decide on a case by case
basis if you want to give someone a hug or not.

(01:07:12):
But you're not causing them harm, and it's not black
magic or sending them nasty thoughts. It's just simply giving
them a hug. I would call it an energy exchange.
One of our participants says, definitely gotten the blank gaze,
the blank stare before, or told you should just vibrate

(01:07:33):
higher in substitution for protection.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
So those are the people.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Oh my gosh, I'm just so tempted to go on
a brand. But people who say that vibrating higher will
protect you are not informed. That's my nice way of saying,
they're not informed. They don't have as much information as

(01:08:02):
you do, and it is what it is. There are
a lot of people in practitioner positions where you might
be a customer client and you know a lot more
about psychic protection than they do. If they say just
vibrate higher being at a high vibration will protect you,

(01:08:23):
they have their their knowledge is aligned with what's popular
in new age right now, but not what's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Okay, so we've got a little bit more time. Thank
you so much for all those great questions and comments.
I love all the interaction. Okay, where's my other glasses.
Let's see what we have time for. Okay, We're going
to go over one more section and then we'll wrap

(01:09:05):
it up for today. In chapter two of the Dark
Side of Spiritual Healers, I talk about a lot of
today's popular spiritual teachings, a lot of today's popular spiritual

(01:09:30):
teachings that contribute to abuse and predation. So I'm going
to really make you think right now before giving you
the answers. Off the top of your head, can you
think of any of today's popular spiritual practices or teachings

(01:09:53):
that actually encourage or contribute to abuse or predatory behavior
in spiritual communities. I want you to think about this
and share in the chat. And while you're thinking about that,
I'm going to look up my page. Okay, have any comments, Okay?

(01:10:24):
Want you to think about any popular spiritual teachings that
contribute to abuse or predation, and if you're watching the replay,
share in the comments.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
While we're waiting for comments to come through, I'm going
to give you one quick blurb of information and then
I'm going to go to my book and give you
some of the answers to my question. All right, So,
if you have been dealing with psychic protection issues, whether

(01:10:57):
it's black magic, entity interference, ancestral curse, or even if
you have a lot of questions about what is false light,
false light entities, what is authentic and genuine in all
this these spiritual teachings that you're studying, how to develop
the discernment about those things and how to get free

(01:11:20):
from psychic deteck, entity interference, black magic, ancestral curses, and
even if you're dealing with supernatural aspects of an abusive
spiritual mentor how to detangle from that, then I highly

(01:11:41):
encourage you to fill out an application for Spiritual Empowerment Academy.
You don't have to feel like you're absolutely ready to
join today or anything like that, but I would just
love to read your.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Application and get to know you better. In order to submit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
The application, you don't have to officially sign up, you
don't have to pay. You can just do the application
and here's where you find that. Go to Psychic Protection
Sanctuary dot com, click on work with Maya, and then
you'll see it. You'll be led to the information about
the academy. You'll see of You'll be led to a

(01:12:23):
page that has lots of information on what the academy
is all about, so you'll be fully informed. But I
encourage you to click on the apply button and filling
out the application is going to help you to gain
a lot more clarity on your situation. So at the
very least, it's going to help you to gain more

(01:12:43):
clarity for yourself. And then go ahead and submit it.
I just want to get to know you better and
what's going on with you. And then you can also
choose to complete the rest of the steps and fully
join if you qualify for the program. But the thing
that I want to encourage you to do is to
just simply fill out the application so I can I

(01:13:04):
can know that you're out there and support you in
whatever way I can. Okay, So we have a comment
that came through comment or two to answer the question.
All right, So they want me to say the question again,
what popular spiritual teachings contribute to abuse and predatory behaviors.

(01:13:31):
It's a tough question, but I'm making you think I
will give you the answer some answers in a second here. Okay,
Catherine says, of course, the thing you said.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
That they do that if users vibrate higher, you will
be all better.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
It's like the toxic positivity. Yes, add toxic positivity positive
vibes only. Like, actually, your comment also kind of implies
the victim shaming victim shaming kind of stuff of like,
while if you had any kind of negative spiritual experience,

(01:14:09):
you probably were vibrating low. It's your fault. You should
have just vibrated higher. That's a shitty thing to say
to someone who needs help. Right. I feel very ranty tonight,
So sorry for yelling at the at the camera. Catherine
also says, when I've talked to a healer and I

(01:14:30):
said I have such a problem and suffering for the
horror of child abuse and rape that seems to be
too common. She told me, like many do, that it
must be something in me that is the problem. What
anyone should be disturbed by such things? Yeah, that is
an example of spiritual people having their head up their

(01:14:55):
own assle. Okay, I mean what she said to you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
I hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
So it's so it's such a prevalent belief, and it
is insane. I believe it's a program. There are certain
really ridiculous and insane programs that are programmed into New
Age and spiritual spirituality that are just so harmful and

(01:15:27):
so just disconnected from empathy, compassion, and reality. Yeah, thank
you for sharing that example. It's a really important one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
I feel all fired up from reading from reading some
of these, but this is good. It's good to be
fired up, because when we don't get fired up, we've
become too complacent, you know. And this makes me think
of another spiritual teaching, which is just that you should
be positive, just that like everything's good, just be chilled

(01:16:07):
out all the time, don't let anything get to you.
And I've beaten myself up about this sometimes where I'm like, well,
I should be more easy going, and I should not
get upset about these things going on in the spiritual world.
I should just let let things be. And it's like,
but then if we're if we're like that, then we're

(01:16:28):
complacent about the issues. So I think we should get
stirred up about some of these issues. Right, So I'm
going to touch on I'm not going to read all
of this, it would be a way to be like
pages and pages, but I'm going to touch on some
of these and you will need to get the book
to read the whole section. This is page forty nine,

(01:16:49):
Chapter two. How do I identify dysfunctional spiritual teachings and
the dysfunctional spiritual teachings? The idea is that these are
teaching or practices that encourage abusive, toxic, and predatory behaviors
and support predatory behaviors. So the first one is the

(01:17:13):
ultra spiritual persona. Have you ever met a spiritual teacher
who talks in a super soft voice or uses this
voice of authority that like, I am helping the whole
planet ascend a five D, and I have the special codes,
and I am the reincarnation of so and so and

(01:17:34):
so and so and they say that they are an
assented being, you know, a higher ascended being. It's this
ultra spiritual persona. But a lot of times then, like you,
you see them behind the curtain, you see them behind
the scenes, and they're a total asshole. They're they're not
talking in a soft voice, they're not being ultra spiritual.

(01:17:54):
They're being a jerk, and usually they're trying to hide something.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
And many, many years ago, I used to think that
as a spiritual teacher, I was supposed to speak in
a soft voice.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
I found a video of mine from like fifteen years ago,
and I laughed so hard. I was like, oh my god,
that is so cringey cringe. I was talking in the
soft voice him, Maya's a hero, blah blah blah, so ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
It's in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
But I was doing it because that was what my
mentors taught me to do. Like that's the norm. Okay,
we're taught to be inauthentic. So with me, what you
see is what you get. I'm going to be who
I am. I'm going to talk in a normal voice,
no fake soft spiritual voice coming from Maya.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Next on the list.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Of dysfunctional spiritual teaching non resistance and accept.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Of what is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
So you're supposed to just accept everything in the universe,
don't resist anything, just surrender. So this means that even
atrocities like some of you commented about a little while ago,
we're not supposed to have any anger or resistance or
emotion about any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
We're supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Just surrender and just be filled with love. Well, when
we do that, guess what happens. All of that is
allowed to continue to happen into infinity.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
But let's say there's a spiritual teacher who teaches this
non resistance surrender, and that spiritual teacher is an overt abuser.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
They are abusing their.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Followers, but when someone tries to speak up about it,
this spiritual teacher will use their own teachings to shut
the whistleblower down, and all of their followers will follow
suit and also shut the whistleblower down and say, oh,
you're being so unspiritual. You're supposed to surrender to what is,

(01:20:18):
acceptance of what is, non resistance, and that also guides
us to misguided forgiveness. You're supposed to forgive everyone. I know,
when I was attempting to assist with some sexual predators
in my spiritual community. Many years ago, I was told

(01:20:40):
by several people in leadership positions in my spiritual community
that I should just that myself and the rest of
the women that I was trying to assist. There was
myself and some other leaders. We were trying to assist
some people who had been abused. We were told across

(01:21:01):
the board, don't be so hurtful and hateful.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
You need to leave the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Past and the past, open your heart, and just forgive
these people. The predators need to be forgiven. We need
to forgive them. And guess what, years later, those predators
are still still abusing people. In the one situation, it

(01:21:28):
was an older gentleman and older I don't want to
call him a gentleman.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
An older man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Abusing young women, and the forgiveness did not help at all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
All it did was allow the do to keep doing
what he was doing. Next.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Toxic spiritual practice is disconnection from your physical body. Any
kind of spiritual practice that teaches you to be disembodied
from your physical body, to like leave your body and
go explore the outer realms. I'm not saying that you
can't explore higher realms, but you have to stay rooted

(01:22:08):
in your body, because if there is a teacher who's
teaching you to leave your body or disconnect or disembody
from yourself, it's very easy for that for that teacher
if they are if they are not a person of integrity,
it's very easy for them to hook in and do
all sorts of things to you because you're not even

(01:22:30):
home in your own vessel. I'll read one more and
then we'll read comments, and then we'll wrap up for tonight.
Pep Rally Spirituality. Have you ever been to a spiritual
event where they had music playing or drums and they
were encouraging everybody to get up and dance and go

(01:22:50):
into a frenzy, And I'm like, everything's great.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
And you go into this bliss state.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
When they get you into this bliss out pep Rally,
everybody's yelling and screaming and dancing around and hopping up
and down state. You've become disembodied and you just become
like just so not centered. When you're in that state,

(01:23:18):
it's a lot easier to engage in to hook you
into the situations that would we would normally see as
cult like situations.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
When they get you into that frothing frenzy. That's on purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
It's to get you into that emotional state so you
are more easily malleable. And there are several others, but
we don't have time to go through them. You will
have to get this book. It's called The Dark Side
of Spiritual Healers Teachers and Light Workers. But on Amazon
you can just type in the Dark Side of Spiritual
Healers and you will find it. Let me read the

(01:24:00):
rest of your comments and then we will wrap it
up for tonight. This was a really fun class. Thank
you everybody, despite the fact that the topic is a
really serious topic. It's good to connect with all of you. Okay,
where are we on comments? Trying to find out where

(01:24:24):
the new comments are? Okay, okay, sorry, I had to
find where we had a lot of new comments.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
That's great. Catherine says, yes, yes, yes, thank you. I'm
glad you're all fired up. Lol. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
If I was super chill about all of this, I
would not have written that third book. So thank goodness.
I get my aunties in a bundle. Catherine says, yes,
fake and showing turns me off. When I talk about you,
I always say that I love that You're so down
to earth and natural and I love that. Yeah, And
you know what, that is the reason why I'm not

(01:25:10):
very popular on YouTube. But I am not willing to
put on a fake persona. I don't believe in that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
And so it's why my channel is so tiny.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
But I absolutely believe in authenticity and being real and
not fake. There's way too much fake spirituality out there.
And what you see is what you get with me.
So I'm glad you're here. And a shout out to
all the people who are on my YouTube channel, I

(01:25:41):
love you. One of our participants says. The other popular
advice for protection is to put yourself into a white
light bubble. However, based on Maya's prior teachings, the white
light may attract false light or dark forces. That's true,
and also just a simple bubble is going to be
It's not strong enough to protect you from a major attack.

(01:26:06):
It's just way too kindergarten level to deal with. If
there's a mega attack coming at you like that is
just like not gonna do it. It's not going to
be enough. Teresa says. Last year, I went for a
reiki session and the person that worked on me was
also a shaman. They decided to help me by putting

(01:26:27):
a block around me so nobody could affect me, so
my energy could balance. They told me it would block
both good and bad.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Well, shortly after my appointment with her, I got hurt.
I got a head injury. What the heck? Why would
they do this? Yeah, it sounds like the person didn't
really know what they were doing. Unfortunately, after nine to eleven,
my son was going to a class for kids, and
the woman told my son to send his spirit guides
to New York because he didn't need them, and the

(01:26:58):
people that died needed his guides. I'm sorry, but that's
messed up. I don't agree with that at all. Catherine says,
I agree, and I've heard that nonsense so many times
about being in surrender and then your higher vibration will
make all the bad and scary and OMG, they say
we are, they say we are, we control our entire reality.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
OMG.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Like all the abuse from neighbors and seeing animals animal
abuse and crying dogs suffering outside is what I created.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
B s.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
I even get me mad at videos on YouTube when
spiritual people are talking it's nonsense.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Yeah, I get annoyed too. I tend to shut it off.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Teresa says, Maya, will you put the book in audible?
I plan on getting your other books with audible. Yeah,
so I will. I promise I will eventually put this
book on audible. It actually costs. Let's see, my second
book cost me about seven hundred dollars to get it

(01:28:04):
on audible. So it is an investment that I have
to make. I have to save up the money to
do it, to get it up. I mean, I won't
want to explain all the nuts and bolts, but it
costs money, and it is something that I do. I
believe that it's important so that those who are site
impaired or for whatever other reason would rather listen.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
To it instead of read it. But just be patient
with me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
I don't think that I'm going to have it done
this year twenty twenty four. My goal is to work
on it in twenty twenty five, but who knows. I
would welcome any benevolent energy being sent my way for
supportive energy that allows me to do this work with

(01:28:51):
more support. In other words, to have the ability to
put the book on audible so that more people can
be helped. So I welcome any positive vibes for that.
I know that it will get done, but just be patient,
one step at a time. Thank you for asking about that.
One of our participants says, I hope everyone who is

(01:29:13):
searching into spiritual protection issues is guided or even stumbles
upon this video.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
I hope so too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Teresa says, I'm just a slow reader. I totally understand.
I'm kind of a slow reader too, FYI, This the
third book is probably the easiest. I think is the
easiest book to read, even for a slow reader. So
just to give you a little bit of encouragement, or
wait until next year and it'll come out, or you

(01:29:42):
can get the book and then listen to it later,
whatever works for you. Okay, and Teresa says, thank you, Maya.
Your work is greatly appreciated.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
I appreciate you as well. Catherine says big, thank you
for all you are doing so much. Appreciate you. I
appreciate you guys to I'll get in tears in my eyes. Okay,
I think we are all done. Just to quick wrap up,
anybody who would like to stay connected. If you're watching
the replay, I invite you to join the free Facebook group,

(01:30:15):
which is Psychic Protection Sanctuary Facebook group, but we only
let people into that group the Facebook group who answer
all three membership questions and who have an actual profile
picture because this is a safe space in our Facebook group.

(01:30:36):
We don't just let any like anybody crazy, you know,
robot like bots and fake profiles and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
We don't let any of that in.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
So make sure that if you are wanting to join
the Facebook group that you do take a minute. If
you really do want to join the Facebook group Psychic
Protection Sanctuary Facebook group, take the two minutes to answer
the questions. Otherwise we think you don't really want to
be in the group if you can't bother to answer
the questions. And that's totally fine, okay, But if you

(01:31:09):
would like some continued free support, feel free to join
the Facebook group. And then also there's a YouTube channel
lots of people love to binge watch on there that's
also called Psychic Protection Sanctuary.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
And then if you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Would like to work with me directly, the only way
to work with me directly right now is to join
Spiritual Empowerment Academy. And even if you feel like you
can't join yet, because everybody has different situations, I encourage
you to fill out the application. I haven't been saying
this in the past, but I feel guided now that

(01:31:46):
I encourage you to still fill out the application because
I just want to know that you're out there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
I pray every morning.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
I ask for my angels to go out into the
world and to connect with anybody who who needs help,
to help that person to find the books or the
free resources or the academy. And if they need higher
level work, more intense assistance, then I pray that the

(01:32:15):
way will be open to that person to enable them
to be able to access the Academy as a resource.
So I pray for you every day, and I would
love to know that you're out there. Would love to
know who you are, and I can do that. I
can know who you are if you will fill out

(01:32:38):
the application so I can just see you and see
your information. We've got a couple more comments. Catherine says, big,
thank you for all you are doing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
So much. Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Teresa says, oh, Maya, I have a mama chicken with
her baby chicken as my picture. Oh, if you're already
in the group, you're fine. I have a wonderful assistant
who personally sits with each profile and tunes in intuitively
to discern is this an okay person to let into

(01:33:10):
the group or not. So if you're already in the group,
and you are because you're here in the because you
got the link for the Zoom class, so you're okay,
you are okay. But for new people joining, right, we
need to know that you're a real profile wanting to
join the Facebook group. Yeah, and Catherine, it's okay. If

(01:33:31):
you're already in the Facebook group, you already passed the
magical gateway. Okay, you're fine, don't worry you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
I'm glad you brought it up. Okay, we're all set
for tonight. I have a few really interesting ideas for
classes coming up next month and the month after, but
I'm going to wait to announce what those topics are.
They're going to be super interesting, totally different than this
book topic. We're going to go into some other topics

(01:34:01):
just to mix it up at a little bit. And
just a reminder that this class happens every month, and
the Zoom link is only available to the people in
the free Facebook group, So if you want to join live,
you've got to join the Facebook group in order to
get the zoom link, and the class takes place excuse me,

(01:34:24):
the second Tuesday of the month at five point thirty Pacific,
so adjust to your time zone if you don't want
to join the Facebook group. If you're watching the replay somewhere,
you can just continue to enjoy the replay every month,
which I will always post on the YouTube channel. Thank you, everybody.
Have a wonderful evening. And Catherine wants to know, well

(01:34:51):
I get to watch the first part of the replay
that I missed.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Yes you will.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
It'll be posted by tomorrow in the Facebook group and
on YouTube channel, so you can watch it okay, and
it will be posted indefinitely. I won't be taking it down, okay.
Thank you so much, everybody, have a great evening. As always,
I'm sending you lots of love until next time.
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