Dark Forces and False Light in Religion (2024)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, everybody. This is Maya's a Hero with Psychic Protection Sanctuary,
and we are now live in our special zoom room.
That is, it's a special zoom link that we have
for the members of our free Facebook group Psychic Protection

(00:26):
Sanctuary Facebook group. And let me just dive right in
and tell you what the topic of our class is,
because this is going to be another juicy topic. This
is dark forces and dark forces and false light in
religion and in parentheses including Christianity, and the thing is

(00:53):
and like my main a big point that I'm going
to be making with a lot of interesting stories here
today is that a lot of I run into a
lot of testimonials online and I even talk to people
in person who insist that Christianity but I really believe

(01:15):
this could be true. You could fill it in the blank,
fill in the blank with any religion that people insist
that they are in the safe zone, no dark forces
can touch them there. They either they were always Christian
or they were practicing New Age and then they ran
it back to Christianity. And it's like when we're kids

(01:39):
and we touch the couch because couch is home base,
and we say I'm touching home base I'm safe now,
and we think that nothing can touch us there, nothing
negative can hurt us. But that's just not true. So
I want to start off by giving a trigger warning.

(01:59):
And I mean, if you follow my content, you already
know that I talk about difficult subjects. We talk about
the dark forces, we talk about entity attachments, psychic attack,
all sorts of things that could be disturbing. Although they

(02:20):
are important topics, we need to know about them. You
just feel like I need to give an extra trigger
warning for this class today, or it's more of a discussion,
I guess, because people get very triggered when they're very

(02:40):
attached to this belief that their religion is the ultimate
safe zone, and when they're presented with an alternate and
an alternate idea to that, sometimes people get very upset.
So I want to just just encourage you to listen

(03:02):
with an open mind. And also, I have three pages
of notes written in really small writing, so I'm going
to be looking at my notes. I have so many
things that I want to say about this subject, dark
forces and false light in religion. A lot of it

(03:23):
is based on my own observations, in my own experiences
within religion and the experiences of my clients within various religions.
So there's a lot to say about this. Also, I
want to give another little disclaimer, and I'll probably repeat

(03:45):
this later on as well. I'm not anti religion at all.
I'm not anti any religion. I'm not anti Christian, I'm
not anti fill in the blank, any religion. I consider
myself interfaith, I n ter slash faith interfaith in that

(04:06):
I enjoy learning about all different religions and even attending
different types of services, just like I've always been interested
in various cultural practices as well. I've always been very eclectic,
and even if they are things that I don't necessarily
personally believe, I enjoy listening and learning and considering different things.

(04:36):
So this is not in any way bashing all religions
or any particular religion. And I've always counted myself lucky
that in my mid twenties I kind of stepped out
of the box where I used to be in the
Christian slash Catholic box. I stepped out of the box

(04:59):
and I just kind of had this bigger worldview of beliefs.
And the reason why I counted myself lucky was because
into my twenties and thirties. I'm now in my fifties now,
but in my twenties and thirties, I saw a lot
of people my age who had a lot of trauma

(05:21):
around their Christian upbringing, and therefore they were very anti
Christian like they because they had so much trauma. And
I've actually had more trauma in Christianity since I started
working in the field of psychic protection approximately ten years ago,

(05:43):
because I've had some pretty freaky experiences within the Christian
context that is supposed to be safe. But in my twenties,
when I stepped out of the Christian bucks, I didn't
have any anger and I still don't have any anger
or animosity toward Christianity, and I was cool with all

(06:04):
of it. I just wasn't only in that box, right.
There are people who are like this is the only way.
So just giving you a little bit of context. So
those of you who are here live, I want to
say thank you. We have a little bit of a
smaller group live because here in the United States, tonight

(06:29):
is the US presidential election. So we're not going to
be talking about the election or specific candidates in our
class tonight or in the comments we're not going to
be doing that. That's a whole other rabbit hole. We're
just not going to do that. But we can say

(06:51):
a prayer or send an intention, whether you're American or not,
sending the intention for the most benevolent outcome for all
for the election. So we just kind of send that
as a little bubble out into the ether as we
move forward with our discussion today. So we're going to

(07:16):
use zoom as a basically like Facebook Live. So I
encourage you to lean into the comments, use the chat
and let us know where you're joining from. I am
going to read your comments in just a little bit,

(07:36):
and I have so much to say about this, oh,
so let's just do it. I always okay, I'll read
your comments in a little bit. Here. I always like
to get the announcements out of the way so we
can get into the juicy stuff. So I will go

(07:58):
through the announcements as quickly as I can and just
bear with me because I do have so many notes
and I don't want to miss any of my details,
so I'm going to be looking at them at the notes. Okay. So,
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think that's it. Let's get into shout outs and then
we'll get into our discussion. Okay, chat, all right. Veronica says,

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my time is so limited. I'm grateful to be learning
ways to discern where my time is best spent. That's awesome.
I'm really glad that you're here, Catherine, Thank you. Maya
love this topic and Zoom group. So grateful. Yeah, this
is our special time. You might have noticed we used
to have a really active Facebook group, the free Facebook group,

(11:25):
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I spend an hour or two every day with my
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just figure out how to consolidate. And so this time
in our zoom room right here is our special time

(11:46):
together where I'm giving you my full on attention and
we get to interact and meet each other and have
an interesting conversation. Dana says, thank you, Maya Angelia. It
almost looks like this was Yeah, this was from last months.

(12:08):
That's so weird. The last month's comments were still there.
That there's our Okay, I learned something new. Rose says, hi, y'all,
I'm from South Texas. Anaka says, hi all, great to
be here, first time for me. Good to see you, Anika.
I think I've been seeing your comments here and there
and discussions, so that's good. Veronica says, hello everyone, Glad

(12:32):
to be here again. This is my second class. Awesome
and she's still in Cancun. That sounds amazing. Annan says
that she's joining from California. Elena is beaming in from Geneva, Illinois. Hi, everyone,

(12:54):
and Anika is joining from Sweden, Europe. Carrie Lynn is
joining from Australia, and Veronica says she's doing lots of
catchup learning by watching the YouTube playlist. Thanks for providing
so many resources there. Yeah, I was just in there
doing some organizing right before I joined you guys. But
there's a lot of videos in there, and I love it.

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So just a little like super clarification for everybody, just
so you know, because I'm a very intentional person. How
I do things, how I spend my time, what content
I put out there, all those things very intentional. And
with the free content we cover, there's so many topics

(13:40):
to cover with Psychic Protection, and specifically in the free
content I cover, like what the issues are like for
example today dark forces and false light in religion, that's
an issue. Or I was looking at my past videos

(14:03):
different types of energy, vampires, tactics of the dark forces,
all different information about what the issues are different, the
five most common types of negative entities. That's an issue.
In my paid group, Spiritual Empowerment Academy, most of our
focus is on how to solve the issues. So that's

(14:28):
where like, once you go behind that curtain, you learn
what to do about it. But there's so much, so
much to cover even in the free content, right, I
love it. Okay, let's jump into this let's brainstorm because
I have a lot of stories to share you with
you guys, but I want this to be an opportunity

(14:50):
for you guys to share as well. So have you
ever had a negative experience? Dark forces, evil, demonic spirits, spooky, scary,
false light, et cetera. Have you ever had a negative

(15:11):
experience like that in a church, a temple, a mosque,
or with a religious practice or with clergy. So I'm
going to ask that question again, and if you're here
live and you can think of an experience that you've had,
I'd love for you to share, and i'll read your

(15:33):
comment in a little bit. I'll circle back around and
if you're watching the replay, I would love for you
to share as well, because we all learn from each
other's story. So I'm going to read that again. Have
you ever had a negative experience dark forces, evil, demonic spirits, spooky, scary,
false light, et cetera in a church, a temple, a mosque,

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or within a religion is practice, So you've been within
the religious building, or maybe you haven't been within the building,
but you're doing whatever the religious practice practice is. Or
you've had a negative experience with clergy or the religious
leaders of whatever that the religion is okay. So as

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you're thinking and as you're typing, I'm going to share
my disclaimer a little bit differently this time. First of all,
trigger warning. If you are very attached to one religion
being the only right way, this discussion that we're going
to have might be triggering to listen to or participate in.

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So just I don't know, like, actually, some people might
not want to listen to this, and that's okay. Like,
if if you're going to be super offended that I
talk about some dark forces that I've seen within churches,
if it's going to be really disturbing for you, I

(17:07):
respect that you could shut off. If you're watching the replay.
Those of you who are here live, I know you
want to be here, but I'm just giving you an
opportunity to think about whether you're ready to really listen
to this. Also disclaimer, I'm not a religious scholar. I'm
also not an expert in every religion in the world

(17:31):
I was, so I am speaking from the perspective of
someone who has worked in the who has worked as
a spiritual teacher for about thirty years, and worked specifically
in spiritual warfare psychic protection for about ten years. I
was raised Catholic, and in my teen years I became

(17:55):
a born again Christian, and I even worked for the
Catholic church in my twenties, I was a school teacher
at two different Catholic schools, and so, and I was
very religious. I was very spiritual and very religious. So
not only was my family Catholic, but I was very

(18:19):
much a part of the beliefs and the spiritual practices.
And I prayed a lot since I was Catholic. I
prayed the Rosary, I prayed the Catholic prayers. And I
was one of those Catholics that was also born again Christian.
So I went with my friends to the what was it?

(18:42):
I guess it was a Protestant church, but it was
very fundamentalist leaning and born again type of thing. I
gotta look at my notes so I don't leave anything
out of this disclaimer. I feel like I can't speak
with authority on religions outside of my direct experience. As
someone who's very respectful of all cultures and beliefs, I

(19:08):
feel like it would be disrespectful to make a blanket
statement about some other religion that I haven't had very
much direct experienced with, but with so outside of Catholicism
and Christianity. But that said, I've worked with so many
clients and I've made my own observations. I really believe

(19:31):
that everything that I'm saying about Christianity can be applied
to all religions. What I mean is every religion has positive,
has good, and every religion has bad. So that's what

(19:51):
I will say about that. Already said that, sure, is
a church a holy place? Okay, I got to read
straight from my notes here, because this is there's a
lot here. Is a church a holy place? Yes? And
when I say church, we could fill in the blank
with a mosque, a temple, or whatever other word would

(20:16):
fit a particular religion. Is a church a holy place? Yes?
Oftentimes it is a lot of churches are sanctified and blessed.
But can it have evil? Can it have evil in it?
Can it have evil presences? Can it have evil spirits?
Can a church have demonic spirits within it? Yes? This

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is something that a lot of people believe. Oh, if
you go into church, there's no demons in there. It's
like the safe zone. Like I was saying in the beginning,
It's like when you're a kid, you find home base
and you're totally safe there. I'm just telling you, I've
seen plenty of demons inside of churches, and so some
of the things that I'm going to be sharing might
be a little upsetting or disturbing. But and I'm not

(21:06):
trying to or maybe I what do I want to say?
I'm not trying to disturb anyone. But I also, as
someone who used to be a professional doormat and people pleaser,
I never wanted to say anything that would make waves.

(21:29):
This was like over ten years ago. I used to
be that way fifteen years ago. I had to get
over that very fast when I started working in this
field of psychic protection and when I went through the
major psychic attack in twenty sixteen, and I started speaking
out about things that offended people who only wanted to

(21:53):
hear about love and light, and I had to get
over the fact that not everybody's going to like what
I'm going to say. So I'm going to say some
things that could push people's boundaries. So can a church
or temple, et cetera have evil presences within it? Yes,

(22:15):
I've seen that plenty of times. Priest pastor, a mom
or Rabbi give you a beneficial blessing. Sure, absolutely it
can be a wonderful thing. Can the opposite be true?
Can a priest, pastor, a mom or rabbi pass on

(22:39):
harmful energy to you? Yes, some of them, some of
them and I'm not saying all, but some of them
can be working from a very dark place. Well how
could that be if they're working for God? Like that
shouldn't be allowed. Well, there's a lot of things happening
on the planet that shouldn't be allowed that are happening.

(23:03):
I mean, we all know about the sexual abuse scandals
in the Catholic Church. To just name one avenue, right
that shouldn't be allowed, But it has sure happened quite
a lot. And I'll also mention in relation to this

(23:24):
line of thinking, that when I was working at my
first job out of college at a Catholic school in Kansas,
my boss, well my immediate boss, was the principal, who
was a layperson, regular person, and above him, his boss

(23:51):
was the priest of the parish. The priest of the parish,
I seriously believe was not only mentally ill person, but
I believe he was possessed. He was a very This
priest who was leading this whole parish and an elementary school,

(24:15):
Catholic elementary school, middle school, and high school. He was
in charge of all these people. He was such a
hateful human being. And in fact, one day after he
said Mass, he walked out. I was walking out with
my students in line behind me, as teachers do, and

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he walked out the side door and he was in
a huff. And there was someone who walked out behind him,
a man, and the priest huffed forward, was walking and
then the priest stopped, turned around, looked at the man, pissed,

(25:06):
pissed at him like a snake, hissed at him, and
then spit on the ground toward this man. Okay, Yeah,
so that was a Catholic priest and he was allowed
to like run the whole church. You know, nobody made

(25:32):
him leave. He was not required to be a good person.
He was. He He harassed and abused so many of
the teachers. It's amazing that I wasn't targeted, because I
was targeted a lot throughout my life by people who
were like that, and I'm kind of amazed that he

(25:54):
didn't target me. I got out, I got out, lucky.
I have many more stories. That's just one, but I
want to share some of yours. I want to share
some of your comments. So that just happened to be
a story within the Catholic Church. But there's so many stories. Okay,

(26:14):
So we're about thirty minutes in. We've got about an
hour left. Oh and I'll just also mention I'll say
this before I read your comments. Look at my notes here,
just emphasizing that I'm very open minded and accepting of
all faiths. Despite what I will share in this class

(26:37):
about negative experiences of Christianity, I've actually enjoyed attending a
very small, tiny, very sweet Episcopal church that emphasizes love, acceptance,
and helping those in need. So I consider I consider

(27:00):
myself interfaith, and I'm very respectful of what people choose
for their spirituality or religion. I personally don't fit specifically
in any specific box. But we're here to really talk
about the fact this like false belief that any particular
religion is the safe zone. It's the ultimate safe zone.

(27:21):
And I people ask me about this all the time
because they'll send me testimonials that that like, let's say
there's you know, some longtime spiritual teacher or a thought
leader on YouTube that all of a sudden has polarized
and has disavowed all of their past spiritual teachings and

(27:45):
now they're saying they're Christian, and uh, they used to
be under attack and now they've they've decided to be Christian.
But I don't know if anyone watching this has had
this experience, But in my observation, as someone who works
in the field of psychic protection, I know plenty of

(28:07):
people who are Christian who have been attacked, who are attacked.
So it doesn't protect you. I know that's upsetting. Can
a particular religion offer some protection? Sure? Sure, Okay, Elena says,

(28:30):
I'm Claire Audient. Didn't know that before, and when I
became Catholic at the end of college, I immediately was
attacked with dark voices, which drove me into OCD behavior.
Later in life, I heard what I thought were the
voices of Jesus and Mary, but these voices drove me
into psychosis. I'm pretty sure I was interacting with a gin.

(28:55):
Gotta get my blanket, it's getting cold in here. That
does sound like a gen actually, So I've dealt with
dark forces within religion that causes caused mental illness, and
you know what, I was going to save this for later,
But there are many stories of Catholic saints who had

(29:17):
very similar behavior or who had very similar experiences, and
they were named as saints after their death after their
deaths because they had all of these what were thought
of as holy experiences. For example, Saint Teresa of Avalon,

(29:38):
Saint Padre Pio, both of them are saints that I've
taken the time to study and learn about more in
depth than some of the other saints, and both of
them had numerous experiences of where they would go into

(30:02):
these periods of like oneness with Jesus or Mary, or
they thought they were going into these ecstasies right where
they were tuned into Jesus, Mary, God, et cetera. But
then thirty minutes later, all of a sudden, it would
turn into them being attacked by demons. And the books

(30:25):
that I've read by Saint Teresa Evela and Saint Padre,
the books about Saint Padre Pio, they talk about this
about how there would be these you know, miraculous visions
immediately followed by being beaten by demons what they thought

(30:46):
were demons, and This sounds very similar to what you
went through, Elena. In my opinion, that is classic GIN behavior,
this shape shifting from one being to another, pretending to
be angels, pretending to be Jesus, pretending to be Mary,

(31:07):
pretending to be demons. And then also they will Gin
types of entities will tend to create very strong auditory well, hallucinations,
but they're not hallucinations. They are the person is actually
hearing an entity speaking. It's not it's not imagined, right,

(31:36):
So that does sound like GIN. So that's definitely an
example of false light experience within religion. Veronica says, I
went to my friend's church and during the service, I
got physically sick. I had to run to the toilet

(31:57):
and stay in there for a long time. It was bad.
She thought it was. She thought it was because there
was an evil spirit attached to me. But I think
it was something in that church. Intuitively, I feel like
you are the one who's right, Veronica. The pastor was
later arrested for essay of minors in the congregation, so

(32:23):
that gives me chills. I think I saw you made
a comment in the group a while back, and I
was hoping that you would be able to join Live.
So I'm glad you're here live and that you could
share that comment again. Yeah, so it's interesting. Just I'm
I'm a thinker. I think about things right as many

(32:46):
of you do. That's why you're here. I find it
interesting how your friend responded. It's like this cognitive dissonance
that occurs when people are presented with a belief with
an experience that's outside of their belief. For example, she

(33:08):
didn't want to believe that there could be dark forces
within her church, or demonic forces or whatever she might
want to call it. So she had to believe that
it was your fault. That what you've said is that

(33:28):
it was because she thought it was that there was
an evil spirit attached to you. And that's because she couldn't.
It was beyond her scope of ability to believe that
there could be darkness within the church. And I'll just
say out there to anybody who who falls into that,

(33:50):
who might have that same struggle, I have empathy for that,
because I have empathy for that tendency to not want
to believe, to have that cognitive dissonance like Veronica's friend had.
Because and I think maybe a lot of you can
relate to this. When I went through this wasn't really

(34:14):
a religion thing, but sort of. When I went through
the major psychic attack in twenty sixteen, there were a
lot of New Age and religious beliefs that I had
at the time that I suddenly realized were false. Like
I believed that if you called on the name of

(34:35):
Jesus then nothing bad could hurt you. Well, I still
got attacked. I thought I was going to die even
though I called on the name of Jesus, and I
somebody might say, well, you must not have mentioned enough,
for you didn't pray hard enough, or the stick their
head up there. But I mean, come on, people, I'm sorry.

(34:56):
I just said that, like was themselves into a pretzel
trying to explain away why something didn't work. But after
the psychic attack in twenty sixteen, I really went through
a period of existential crisis because I was like, well,

(35:16):
all these things that I that I was taught with
in religion and at my time in New Age, Like
I believed that spiritual beings couldn't harm you if you
were in the physical. Spiritual beings couldn't harm somebody that
was in the physical. I believed that well, that was false.
I found out found out the hard way when something

(35:42):
attacked me, majorly when I was in my bed. But
what's what I'm stopping and noticing is I was attacked
even before that, but I still was attached to this,
these these feel good beliefs, right, So anyway, thank you
for sharing your story. Veronica Anon says, why do the

(36:04):
beneficial entities in the church slash template temple allow for
the existence of dark forces in the church or temple? Well,
that is the ultimate question, Anon, that is the big
existential question, even of like why are dark forces, negative entities,

(36:30):
et cetera allowed to do any bad things in the world.
There is actually a video on my YouTube channel trying
to think of what it is called why. It's something
about why does God allow psychic attack? Et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. So you can search for that why does

(36:52):
God allow? And it's a difficult question to answer. So
I ramble a lot that in that video, just sharing
a just different rabbit holes of answers. But one of
the answers is that, well, I don't know if I'm
going to go down those rabbit holes, but it's definitely

(37:14):
a difficult question, and also based on so much darkness
that I've seen in churches, I believe I'm beginning to believe.
And I'm not saying that I have the ultimate answers
about everything ever, I'm not saying that. But I'm a seeker.

(37:40):
And so I've actually gone to different churches more on
purpose because I was seeing dark activity in churches and
I thought, what's happening here? I want to know more,
And so I started going to churches for research purposes
and I was seeing more dark activity and I so

(38:02):
this is what's leading me to believe that there are
aspects of probably every religion. I'm not saying just Christianity.
Probably every religion out there has some infiltration by dark forces.
Dark forces have gotten into the leadership and the followers,

(38:24):
and there are people taking taking part in activities that
are super bad, and there are spiritual beings hanging out
that are negative as well. So I think that there's
a lot of infiltration. I'll circle back and share a
story in a little bit that might you might be
interested in. And on Anika says, I'm a Protestant but

(38:48):
praying the Rosary daily. I love the Rosary often and
I used to be part of an ecunemical that's a
hard word prayer group. I believe that there is very
powerful when you pray it, but when I put it
down afterwards, I've experienced very dark influences or powers. Any
thoughts on this, I'm going to really ponder that. M Yeah,

(39:17):
I would love to have more conversation about this. This
this is very interesting to me. I personally love the
Rosary as well. I love the Holy Mother. I love
the archetype of the divine goddess or the mother archetype.

(39:37):
I love all of that. I mean, I think I
think Mother Mary is a reflection of the divine feminine.
I just love. I love how she shows up in
a variety of religions and cultures. I've tended to use
some of the prayers of the Rosary for pretty effective

(39:59):
protect depending on what issue I was dealing with, what
type of entity. I personally haven't had any dark activity
as a as a backlash from using a rosary, from
praying the rosary, So maybe I would need to need

(40:21):
to know more about your story. She says afterwards, I've
experienced for a dark influences powers. My first thought would be,
you know, in all the students that I've worked with.
There's a there's an issue that comes up when people
start engaging in spiritual protection activities, whether it's praying a

(40:43):
rosary or doing a particular protection ritual or the different
methods that I teach in the academy. If someone has
some dark influences that are affecting them already, there's there's

(41:05):
a phenomenon that we talk about, which is backlash. That
that there's backlash. There's some retribution when you when you
are doing those protection practices those dark forces, and for
some people it'll be an entity attachment or black magic

(41:27):
or psychic attack, or an ancestral curse running through the family,
or whatever the dark forces influence might be. Though, the
dark forces don't like it when we are doing things
that bring us into our power, and so there is

(41:47):
often backlash when we engage in those sorts of things.
So that could be what is happening, and so that's
something to consider. Yeah, A non says I read that
for priests that sexually abused children or women, they were
just rotated to other churches rather than being held accountable.

(42:11):
That's absolutely right. Absolutely, so it's pretty horrible, and I
mean that is just one category of abuses and atrocities
within Catholicism slash Christianity. Is the sexual abuse and the hiding,

(42:39):
the putting it, hiding it under the rug and allowing
it to continue. And that's just one thread of terrible
things within Christianity. And again I'm not trying to bash Christianity.
I'm just saying my main point is we shouldn't have

(43:03):
the delusional belief that this or any religion is all good.
Look at this, all of the sexual abuse. Can we
not say that there is major demonic influence running through that? Like,
of course there is. There's major infiltration there, okay, major.

(43:26):
So can a religion if you have a good priest
or good rabbi or what have you, someone who's not
dark but coming from a place of love. Can you
find a safe haven at a particular religious organization, Yes

(43:49):
you can. But are all religions safe havens or all
Christian churches safe havens? Obviously not, so we got to
keep that in mind. They're not all safe zones. Elena says,
it's funny. The only thing that made me that made
the initial dark forces stop was praying the Rosary every day.

(44:10):
Despite how much those voices ramped up while I prayed. It.
Not saying the Rosary is a panacea, but it is
pretty powerful. Oh I'm not saying that the rosary is
a panacea, but it is pretty powerful. Yeah, it is
for some people. It is for me as well. And
I think some of that is whatever tradition was our

(44:37):
foundation that we grew up with. Like, for example, for me,
growing up, I had a very strong connection with Mother
Mary and with the Rosary. So excuse me. Even though
I am not Catholic anymore, I don't agree with a

(44:58):
lot of the beliefs, I don't agree with a lot
of the abuses that have happened over the history of
the Catholic Church, but I still have a connection with
the power of that Rosary. So whatever. So everybody watching this,
whatever your foundations might have been, maybe you grew up

(45:23):
saying certain prayers from whatever religion fill in the blank,
or doing certain ritual practices from your faith, and maybe
you still practice that faith, or maybe stepped away from
it or stepped outside of the box, but there's still
a connection with that that you can draw on when

(45:44):
you need protection. It's it's literally part of your root
chakra foundation. So this is why certain practices are powerful.
So this is why maybe the Rosary might be very
helpful to people like Elena and myself, that maybe not
for everybody. Does that make sense? Yeah? And she also

(46:08):
says I have an ancestral connection to the Rosary through
my father's side. My great grand great grandmother, great aunt,
and father used to pray it together when he was
growing up. That sounds lovely. My maternal grandmother also grew
up Catholic, so there are deep roots for me in
that tradition. I'm guessing that's why the Rosary was so
powerful for me. Wonderful, So feel free to keep using

(46:33):
the chat. We're done with all the chat comments for now,
and I'm going to go back to my notes after
I get a drink of my sacred cacau that one
of my students sent me for my birthday. Oh okay,

(46:56):
I need water. Now. If you have cats, you'll know
why I have a little dish over my cup because
cats like to stick their tongue in your water. Okay,
So I have some points that I would like to make,

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so I'll have to look at my notes so I
can cover all this all right, So now I'm going
to focus. I've been trying to be broad and all encompassing,
including in being inclusive as we're talking about all faiths.
But right now I'm going to talk about dark forces
in Christianity. So just pointing out some things that I

(47:43):
think people who have this view that Christianity is the
ultimate positive place, safe zone. The Crusades weren't that long ago.
And this is like lots of murdering, lots of killing.
This is war, the Holy wars that were supposedly approved

(48:10):
of by God in order to kill all heathens, get
rid of all the non Christians so that the Christian
faith could step front and center. Right, I mean, how

(48:31):
how is it that that is a positive and loving
and christ like thing? To me? That's obvious. Dark forces
infiltration obvious. What about the witch burnings? Literally millions of women,
and not all women, but mostly women as well as

(48:58):
some men, and and any one who was considered a
threat in any way, anyone who was a free thinker. Oh,
I probably would have been burned as a witch if
I had lived in that in that era. I probably was.
Many of us probably were. But that's another rabbit hole.

(49:18):
But the witch burnings, I mean literally it was genocide, okay,
genocide of mostly women, some men, millions of people. How Like,
that's obviously dark forces infiltration. That is super super dark,

(49:45):
super dark. And there I think there's this belief well
within Christianity that like witchcraft is evil and it's demonic
and blah blah blah. So there's this belief that the
witch burnings were like definitely killing people who were satanic

(50:05):
and demonic and witches and stuff, that it was mostly
genocide of the women that were healers and herbalists and
these were not evil people that were murdered, Okay, So

(50:26):
obviously dark forces infiltration. And then in addition with dark
forces in Christianity, the colonization of indigenous lands, the colonization
of Indigenous people uh being their lands being stolen from them,

(50:48):
and the Indigenous people being forced to the children being
forced to grow up in residential I think they were
called residential schools. Many of those schools were Catholic, many

(51:09):
of them were non Catholic, but other forms of Christian
and those children were not allowed to speak their native language.
There was serious abuse, major abuse toward the Indigenous people
at the hands of Christians. So these are just examples

(51:36):
I'm just pointing out that if we think that like, oh,
Christianity is it's all good and it's the safe space
if we want to get away from dark forces we
go to Christianity, look at how much infiltration there has
been throughout history. Okay, So my intent is not to

(51:57):
polarize one way or the other. There, I am saying
it's not all good. Can you find peace like I have?
Like I mentioned before, I've been really enjoying this sweet
little Episcopal church that's very lovely, that people are very loving.

(52:18):
It's a great place. I have not picked up on
any dark forces there. But are all churches safe spaces? No,
there's definitely a lot of infiltration. So I already mentioned
false light within the store, the real stories of the

(52:42):
Catholic saints, the ecstatic states that they would go into.
And the thing is is false light. Entities, especially Jin
in particular, they love to be worshiped. They love of
worship energy. So Jin, in my observation, in my opinion,

(53:07):
Jin have had a heyday infiltrating different areas of Christianity
and Catholicism, pretending to be Jesus, God, Angels, Mary, et cetera,
as well as demons like I mentioned before, where they
will shape shift back and forth. They love to be worshiped,

(53:31):
as the saintly person kneels down and prays, Oh my Jesus,
I love you, and then twenty minutes later that shifts
into demons that are then attacking the person. That's classic
gin and they love to be worshiped. They love to
be worshiped. So I have a special place in my

(53:54):
heart for Saint Teresa Avala and Saint Padre Pio, which
is why I spent time studying them. Obviously, I never
met them in person, but I just feel an affinity
with them. So I feel sad that, in my opinion,

(54:15):
what they thought they were experiencing was not at all
what they were actually experiencing. I feel sad that they
thought they were having these religious ecstasies and I don't
believe that's what was happening at all. So I feel
sad for them. Before I read the couple more comments

(54:37):
that have come through, I just want to go into
another side topic, which is people converting from New Age
to Christianity, and converting from New Age to Christianity. There's
no there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with

(54:58):
converting from New Age to anything, or converting from Christianity
to New Age either way. But there's there are literally
thousands and thousands of like so just countless YouTube videos
of testimonials of people who used to be new Age

(55:22):
or they're they're lumping it into new Age. Maybe they
were a psychic reader, or they were an astrologer, or
they practice witchcraft. Uh, not not necessarily satanic witchcraft, but
like just spells, like pretty neutral stuff, right, healing spells

(55:44):
or whatever. Uh and so, but but they realized that
something was wrong with their New Age practices or whatever
flavor of New Age they were practicing, and so they
thought the answer to that was to jump to polarize
over to Christianity. So are there problems with new Age? Yes,

(56:10):
there are a lot of problems with new Age. And
you can watch one of my videos on the YouTube
channel Psychic Protection sinctu Are YouTube channel. There's a video
called I'm Trying to Think It's I think. It's called
why I no longer call myself New Age and I

(56:35):
go through all the different reasons of why of the problems.
And so if you type in Maya's a Hera and
new Age you'll actually find a couple of videos where
I talk about the problems. There are definitely issues in
New Age. So I'm not contradicting, I'm not countering that.

(56:57):
But this polarization of like we're going to leave Christianity
and we're going to bounce over here to Sorry, we're
going to leave New Age, We're going to bounce over
here to Christianity, and then we're going to say that
everything else is evil. I think that's a mistake and
a lots just my opinion. I mean, everybody's free to
believe whatever they want. If someone wants to do that,

(57:19):
that that's their free will to do that, and I
totally respect that. But I in some of these stories,
like some of these stories, I find kind of alarming.
I see indications in there some of the stories that
it looks like there was dark forces interference that caused

(57:40):
them to bounce from one place to another and thus
creating tons of chaos in their life. For example, former
New Age author Dorian Virtue in twenty seventeen disavowed all
of her former New Age work and converted to Christianity,

(58:05):
and now she's over in the Christian realm, causing a
bunch of hubbub over there. I've done a couple of
videos on her. You can look those up on YouTube.
I can type in Maya's a Hero Dorian Virtue, and
you'll find two different videos where I've talked about what
I think happened with her. The more recent video, I

(58:26):
finally was gaining more confidence in saying things that are
more controversial. So in the more recent video I talked
about I think that was in the more recent one
was in I think twenty twenty, I talked about how
I felt that she had an encounter with a gin,
a shape shifter. That shape shifted pretended to be Jesus.

(58:47):
And there are reasons why I think this. I won't
go all down that rabbit hole today. Is it possible
for someone to have an actual vision of Jesus, Yes,
I believe so. I believe someone can have a real,
authentic vision of Jesus or another religious figure. But I
don't believe that Dorian Virtue did, based on the details

(59:11):
of her story, and because Jesus doesn't create mega chaos
and for your life to fall apart. That's my opinion.
Jin do that false light entitease, do that. Let's see okay,

(59:33):
And I'll also mention one of the reasons why this
topic of dark forces false light in religion even came
up is that one of the members of my paid
mentorship program, Spiritual Empowerment Academy, was she started a really

(59:55):
interesting and I think very good conversation about a spiritual
thought leader on YouTube who did this usual thing of
converting of having this very polarized experience that I mentioned

(01:00:17):
where she was a I think a professional psychic reader,
and she did a lot of videos where I mentioned
her as a thought leader because she was sharing a
lot of her thoughts and beliefs, and she had a
lot of followers, and then she had an experience, so

(01:00:38):
she was under attack by I think she mentioned demonic
Now I actually I was going down her rabbit hole
and watching her stuff to find out what happened. I'm
going to say, I'm going to just be really clear
that after a while I stopped researching her because I
just found it to be such a bummer because I

(01:01:00):
actually feel bad for people when this phenomenon happens. And
what I mean is that she was under spiritual warfare.
She was experiencing spiritual warfare. She was also aware of
false light. She talked about it in her past videos.

(01:01:22):
She understood about false light, so that was on her radar.
She understood it. But yet when she was under attack,
then she had an experience that she thought was the
Holy Spirit communicating with her and telling her what to do.

(01:01:43):
When an entity is telling you what to do, that's
a huge red flag, especially if it's like that coming
through that strong. I'm not saying that everything is Jin,
but we're mentioning Jin a lot in today's discussion because
they do tend to get involved in religion because they

(01:02:05):
are shape shifters who, although they come from Middle Eastern
Muslim folklore, they are real entities that don't just exist
in the Middle East. I've seen them in Tucson, where
I live, near where I live, Arizona, Kansas City, where

(01:02:27):
I used to live for a long time, my clients,
all different places, all over the world. I believe that
this person, this YouTube person that I'm talking about, had
an encounter with a GIN, and I feel sad for her.
I don't believe that I can save everyone, and I

(01:02:52):
don't think that I'm supposed to, because that would be codependent.
I think that everyone is supposed to have their own experiences,
and so my approach is to get on my soapbox,
to get on these videos and just talk and talk
and share what I think, share my views, and whoever
is supposed to take in this information, we'll take it in.
So this is why I haven't gone and tried to

(01:03:13):
save her. I don't think that that's a healthy approach. Also,
I didn't mention her name because well, I mentioned Dorian
Virtue's name because like pretty much everybody has heard of her,
and she's she has just destroyed her own reputation with
her antics in New Age and now in Christianity. She's

(01:03:39):
just causing problems everywhere. Really, but this other person, I
don't want to mention her name out of respect. I
just I feel a bit of kinship with her. I
think she's a genuine soul who really wants to be
a truth speaker, and so I thought it was very

(01:04:03):
interesting that she went through this experience. And so now
there are all these people who are Christian who are
commenting on her videos and saying, oh Jesus is Lord,
you've been saved. And she's now believing that all everything
that she did before was evil and she can't do

(01:04:23):
any of that anymore, no more psychic work. It's all demonic,
is what she believes. And my observation is that jin
these shape shifter trickster entities, they love to come along
and just fuck up a person's life. And I just

(01:04:44):
see that happen over and over again with these New
Age to Christianity stories. So that's my perspective, And of
course I have total respect for her path and everyone
else who has gone from one really one path to another.
It's a person's free will as to where what direction

(01:05:06):
they go. I find it very curious that she was
someone who talked about false light, and she knew about
false light, and a lot of people don't know about
false light. She knew about false light, So why was
she tricked so effectively? My answer to this would be

(01:05:31):
that I've had personal encounters with these gin shape shifters
a few times. I will include more stories about that
in my next book, but I will say they are
very convincing, very tricky, very convincing, and I think that's

(01:05:52):
the answer why she was fooled by this. Okay, just
have to look at my notes here. Yeah, so I've
mentioned this brief story in various different classes and interviews

(01:06:17):
that several years ago, I was in a Christian church,
so shifting topics away from people converting from New Age
to Christianity, talking about false light now more generally I
was attending. I was one time attending a Christian church

(01:06:45):
and I was in there with a friend and I
was just sitting there looking forward at the altar, listening
to the speaker, and all of a sudden, something hit
me hard. It was like somebody had hit me on
the head on the right side of my temple. I
was not wearing glasses, and so it hit me right

(01:07:06):
there bunk, and it surprised me. And I grabbed my
head and I said ow. And I looked up because
I was like, what just hit me? I looked up
and I saw the largest gin that I have ever seen.

(01:07:34):
He was so large that he was basically filling up.
He was like encompassing the area over the whole congregation,
so like covering almost all of the ceiling. And I
am clairvoyant, so I have psychic sight. One interviewer asked me, well,

(01:07:57):
why didn't anyone else see it? While number one, I
am clairvoyant, not everybody who was there is clairvoyant, And
even if they are clairvoyant. I had had previous run
ins with Gin, so that channel was flipped on for me.

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Where when I went through the gen attack in twenty sixteen,
I was then able to see them. After I was
attacked by one that was in Kansas City attached to
a spiritual healer. After that, I was able to see them.

(01:08:41):
So I saw this. I have no doubt. I know,
without a shadow of a doubt, this was not some
imaginary thing. I do psychic work for a living. This
is this is I've done psychic work for thirty years,
and every day I'm I'm tuning into people all over

(01:09:03):
the world, tuning into what entities they're dealing with or
what kind of spiritual warfare they're dealing with. I know
when I see something, Okay, I know when I see something.
So I looked up. I see this Gin. And I'm
also Claire Cognizant and all the other Claires, and so

(01:09:24):
when I looked up, I saw this, and then I
knew that it was male, and that it was pretending
to be God, and that it was checking in on
its congregation, and that it loved being worshiped. That really
messed with my head for a couple of years because

(01:09:44):
I had the belief it was this. I still am like, how, like, okay,
I could see how there would be mischievous entities doing
different things, but like, why would God allow an entity

(01:10:10):
to pretend to be God? Like? How is that allowed?
So that I don't have the ultimate answer to but
I definitely saw that. And shortly after I had a
client who was dealing with one of these shape shifter

(01:10:37):
entities that was pretending the it was a gin. I
didn't know we were going to talk so much about
gin today, but that's okay. She was dealing with a
gin who was pretending to be her spirit guide, and
it was I'll just shorten the story. It was very

(01:10:58):
obvious that she was dealing with a gin. The gin
actually spoke to me. When gin communicate, it's like for me,
it's like they're blasting. I can hear their voice booming
inside my head. They send it right into my third eye.

(01:11:18):
Genuine beings don't do that. Authentic benevolent beings don't do that.
So I knew that she was dealing with the Gin.
I had no doubt about that. I'll share some parts
of the story that I can share in my next book,
and while keeping the details of the client confidential. But

(01:11:41):
this person obviously was very afraid of what was happening
to her, and so what she decided to do. She
contacted me. So I was trying to help her. I'm
not the only person who can help, though. That's totally
fine that she said she didn't want to work with anymore.
She didn't want to have anything to do with any

(01:12:03):
of the things that I was teaching. Again, that's totally fine.
People have free will. But she said she was disavowing
everything I quote spiritual, and she was going back to
her Christian church because she felt that that would be
a safe space for her. And I said, well, I

(01:12:26):
totally respect your view. I know this is really scary,
but also keep in mind that the church isn't a
totally safe space. And I told her about how I
had seen a gin in the church. I was very
gentle about it because I felt like she had already

(01:12:47):
made up her mind and I really believe it's not
my job to force anything on anybody. And so she
went her own way. She went back to Christian church.
I don't know what happened after that. I hope that
she's fine and that she's well, but it was very

(01:13:09):
interesting how I saw this gin in a Christian church
and then you know, within two months after that, had
a client who was like, Oh, I'm under attack and
Christianity will protect me, and I was like, I don't
think it will. I'm so sorry. So I was very

(01:13:31):
worried about her. But I've had to learn over the
years to have detachment, to just be available for people
when they want to work with me, and to let
go when it's time to let go. So that that
was super hard. Okay, let's share some of your comments,

(01:13:52):
and then I'm going to share. I'm going to share
some really intense stories. Let's see if I can get
all this a non says, and the separation of Indigenous

(01:14:17):
child from their families and placed in state sponsored and
Christian run schools to quote assimilate them. Six thousand Indigenous
children died in mass graves from these Christian run schools
in the US and Canada based on the abuse and
poor conditions there. Yeah, and so that's not what I

(01:14:40):
So this is my personal opinion. That's not what I
think is Christ's like behavior, right, Like, if we're gonna
I was thinking about this before our zoom class. I
thought if Jesus showed up right now, I would I

(01:15:00):
would love that, Like I would want to talk with him.
I would want to like, let's be friends, let's talk.
And so definitely not anti Jesus at all. I would
be very interested in a relationship with him. I think

(01:15:22):
that there has been a lot of distortion. So there's
this separation, like there's like perhaps what was originally intended
from his teachings and from what he did possibly right,
compared to the dark forces that have infiltrated. So let's

(01:15:46):
be really clear that we're not that those are separate things.
Dark forces have death. I mean, we can't. I don't
know how anyone could say that dark forces haven't infiltrated.
I mean, like, look at all this genocide and abuse
that that dark forces infiltration. Right. Yeah, Oops, my comments

(01:16:13):
are getting jumbled. Sorry, guys. Let's see if I can.
I'm gonna read Elena's comment Jesus creates peace in your life?
Yes he can, I kind of. Now. I live in
a really small town. So the the Jesus relationships that

(01:16:37):
I see that my neighbors have the relationships that they
have with Jesus, is that Jesus that their version of
Jesus is telling them to judge and be hateful to anyone,
to anyone who's not like them. And I like your version, Elena,
like I think the perhaps the authentic This is my opinion,

(01:17:03):
the authentic version, right, not the hate judge filled. I
was saying, like a month ago to a couple of people,
Jesus said, love your neighbor, not judge your neighbor. Right. Anyway,
I'll read your comment. Jesus creates peace in your life.
My real interactions with him have always left me in

(01:17:23):
quiet peace. I've talked to him, and I knew it
was him because when I asked him what his true
teaching was, he said, love everyone all the time, no
matter what they do. I didn't take this to mean
that you should take abuse, but love was his message.
And he's told me he doesn't want to be worshiped.
He just wants everyone to love one another. That is

(01:17:50):
a green flag. You know how we talk about red
flags being bad. Green flag when you say that, he
said that he doesn't want to be worshiped. To me,
a red flag is when a being is insisting on
being worshiped. And I've actually seen negative entities like absorbing
and sucking up worship energy, which I've found very disturbing.

(01:18:14):
I don't think that Jesus or God or any version
of the divine needs worship. I've seen time and again
that GIN and other negative entities love worship energy. They
just it's like food for them. So I feel really

(01:18:40):
good reading your comment. And I feel uncomfortable when people
talk about like worship, worship and fear of God, and
I'm like, I don't think that's the real good. I
don't think that's that makes me nervous anyway, carry lynnon
was great to have you see next time she's got

(01:19:02):
to go. Elena says, yep, the booming voice in my
head was my experience too. Started out nice, became nasty
and loud. That is a classic red flag for a GIN.
And like I said, I didn't plan to talk so
much about GIN today, but it just has come up
a lot. There is a chapter, Oh my God, I

(01:19:27):
love your cover friend, Lily. Lily says, will the real
Jesus please stand up? I love your I sense humor
there too, and I just love it. I love it.
I love it standing ovation. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Oh
my gosh, So there's a chapter in my second book,

(01:19:52):
the Psychic Attack source Book. There's a chapter about false light,
and it talks about the different types of entities that
tend to be false light entities that are trickster entities,
negative entities pretending to be positive jin are just one example.

(01:20:12):
They happen to infiltrate religions a lot, demonic entities as well.
But if you want to know more, it's more straightforward
and concise, so you can read about it there. Okay,
we only have a few minutes left and I want

(01:20:32):
to just share a couple of stories as quickly as
I can. So trigger warning, okay, trigger warning, trigger warning
that these could be triggering. So I live out in
the country outside of a small town, and it's very
conservative here, and that's totally fine. Again, free will. Everyone

(01:20:54):
has free will to be however they want to be. However,
I've had to become very secretive of who I am
because I had an experience about a year after moving here.
I think it was I went to a pot luck,

(01:21:14):
like a neighborhood party. Thing I didn't even share, Like
I don't tell people about my work when I go
out in the community, like I'm I get to know
people first before I throw that on them. But I
brought a drinking container, a water bottle that had the

(01:21:35):
chakras on it. Okay, Well, to some flavors of conservative Christianity,
that's demonic. Okay, So some people believe that the chakras
are demonic. I don't agree with that. I think they're

(01:21:59):
part of your energy. So but anyway, I went into
into this potluck and the woman I won't go into
the whole story because we don't have time, but she
pulled out a butcher knife and she was holding it
like her fist was her knuckles were white. Okay. She

(01:22:20):
was like standing there right by me, and before she
grabs the butcher knife, she was talking about Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,
Jesus is Jesus that and deep like I could overhear
parts of what she was saying. I was hearing Jesus
a lot. I was hearing dem she was saying talking
about demons, and I think, uh that she had a

(01:22:45):
demon attached to her, but she was, uh, she didn't
know it. She was actually kind of drunk at this party.
She saw me and she came up. She had a
butcher knife and I looked at her and I thought
I took I looked into into her eyes as she

(01:23:06):
was talking, and I thought, oh my god, she has
a demon in her and she's going to stab me
and kill me. And I'm sitting on my chair. I
press my feet into the floor because I'm like, I'm
ready to jump up, and I look over. I'm like,
there's the door over there. There's a clear way to

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the door. And I was like holding my breath. I
did not blink, and I'm staring at her and I'm like,
is she going to murder me? Uh? And I know
what I saw. I know that this was not something
imagined or that I overreacted. This lady was threatened by

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me because I had a chakra drink water bottle drinking container. Finally,
she calmed down and she put the knife down and
then she went away. But I was like, I think
I almost died. Okay. A friend of mine said you
should have looked right at her and said, are you
going to let that demon take over? And I said, girl,

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I choose my battles. I kept quiet. I didn't say
anything like I'm not going to poke a demon, because like,
do I want to be stabbed fifty times. No, I
had something happen about six months ago that was very disturbing.

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And even with everything that I know about spiritual warfare,
psychic protection, psychic attack, all the work that I've done
over the years, still I found this troubling, even with
all the things that I've seen. And I think it
was because I still and I think you guys can

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I think many of you can relate that. Like when
you encounter something, let's say you've been raised in a
certain tradition and you encounter something that's contrary to beliefs
that you were raised with or beliefs that you currently have,
it's like hard to grapple with that. I went to

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for research purposes. I went to a Catholic conference that
was in Tucson, which is an hour from me, and
they were having a speaker on spiritual warfare, an author
with a Catholic perspective, and I didn't agree with everything

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that she said. She was very anti indigenous, which really
pissed me off, saying that it was all demonic and
it was very offensive. I did, but I, like I said,
I'm open minded, and so I wanted to hear her
perspectives because she has helped with spiritual warfare with exorcisms

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in the Catholic Church for many years, so she had
interesting things to say. So that's why I went to
this Catholic conference. She spoke in the afternoon, and then
there were also other speakers. While at this conference, they
had dinner, and then after dinner they had like a

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special prayer time. So it was this big conference hall,
and I was so shocked. I mean, I've seen dark stuff,
like I've already said, in Christian and Catholic churches, but
I never thought I would see something so blatant. So
the priest came up to the altar and he was

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preparing to do something called Eucharistic adoration, which is where
they bless the bread and the wine. Long story short,
they place it in this special thing where you can
view it, and then people come up and they worship
Jesus's body and blood. And I never would have thought

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that there would be negative interference with that. So the
priest said prayers for a while. It was not a mass,
it was like a special Eucharistic adoration is what they
call it. And so after the priest did some prayers
for a while, a man one of the there's a man.
There's there was a man who wasn't a priest, but

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he worked a lot in the Catholic church. He went
around and preached, and he got up and he uh
started talking. He got up at the stood up at
the podium and he dropped his head and then he

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lifted it up again. And I realized, oh, he's preparing
to channel a message, which Catholics say, oh, that's bad,
like you should not be talking to entities. They're very
against that. But yeah, this man, it was okay because
he was sharing a message from Mary, Mother Mary, who,

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as I've already shared, I like Mother Mary, I like
the Divine Mother. But I could see he had a
dark entity behind him, and the darkest entity I've ever seen,
darker than anything I've ever seen, like so evil, like
a black hole kind of entity. And this thing was

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speaking through this man who was sharing. It was kind
of a boring message, like you should say the Rosary
more often and go to church, and it was just
like nothing special message. And then he sat back down
and again, as a clairvoyant, someone who can see the entities,

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I was the only one who could see this. This
entity stayed on the altar. Even though the man went
and sat down, the entity stayed on the altar. The
woman who ran the event came up and said, I
invite all of you to come up and worship Jesus.
So everybody except for me came up all the way

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up to the altar, and they were all kneeling down,
like I don't know, maybe one hundred people kneeling down.
And I could see this worship energy. It was like
this white mist coming up. It was like floating up
off of all of the people as a group. It
was like this collective white mist. And this entity, this black, evil,

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dark entity, was standing in front of the Bread of Jesus. Okay,
was standing in front of that, and this entity was
absorbing all of that worship energy. So remember I gave
a trigger warning. This situation was disturbing even for me,

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and I've encountered some really disturbing stuff. But having been
raised Catholic, even though I no longer considered myself a
practicing Catholic, I was like, how I just I was
just speechless. I did so at that point, I said,

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I'm out of here. Later's everybody, I'm gone and I'm
not sticking around. I tried to talk to the priest
in my local town about this, and I don't think
that he believed me. He was like, Okay, well maybe
that happened, maybe it didn't. He had cognitive dissonance. He

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started preaching to me about the Bible and data out
like he couldn't hear or what I told him what
I saw. And I hope that I planted a seed though,
so that he will because he I told this local
priest about this, because he said that he understood about

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spiritual warfare. So I'm hoping that I planted a seed.
I have more stories, but we don't have time to
share them, and so I will definitely be telling more
of these stories in my next book, but you're gonna
have to wait a while. I haven't even I've only
done the table of contents on my fourth book. I
haven't even started it yet. But I will also say

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that some of my students over the years have had
have encountered evil spirits in churches in Mosques, et cetera.
And I tried going to the local Catholic church here
in the small town for a while, but there was

(01:31:59):
two much negative interference there. I saw a demon hovering
above the altar during mass. Will that be the case
at every Catholic church? No, I don't think so. But
I went to I tried going to another Catholic church
about half an hour forty minutes from where I live,

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and there was demonic activity there too during mass, right
after a communion. So and then I it took me
a couple of days to clear myself. After that, I
was like, I don't want to go in that church
ever again. And the church felt fine when I walked
in this one that was forty minutes away. It felt

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fine when I first walked in, and then during the
mass it got darker and darker until after communion it
was like this portal opened up and it was it
was nasty. When I left, my car almost would start,
and my phone was acting it was like blink. The

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screen was like blinking on and off. It never does that.
It was it acted like it was going to die
even though the battery was full. Again. I had to
take a couple of days to clear myself, and I
was like, wow, this makes me not want to go
to any churches. But like I said, there I have
found a really sweet, little little church just because I

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like the connection it's not that I have to go
to a church, but I have found one that doesn't
have dark activity, but you know that was hard to find. Actually, gosh,
I have so much more to say about this, but
we're going to have to close after I read your
comments because I do have to go do something else.

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So my main point is, I'm not saying that religion
or Christianity is bad, not saying that Jesus is bad.
I'm not saying that any particular religion is bad. But
let's not be delusional in thinking that it's a totally

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safe zone. I mean, I think if we look at facts,
we see that there are people in different religions, including Christianity,
who deal with possession, who deal with entity attachments, who
deal with being attacked by dark forces. And you know,

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these are people who are devout. Some people who are
devout still have that happen. So I think it's this
middle ground that we need to consider. That we can
absolutely use our spiritual or religious practices or our religious

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leaders to help support us in our protection in our faith.
We can absolutely utilize that support. But let's not assume
that all of whatever the religion fill in the blank
is all safe zone. Okay. We need to use our
discernment at all times. And sometimes some pockets of religion

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are highly infiltrated, and if that's the case, we need
to stay away from that church or that priest or
that whatever and find it different. If you want to
find a church, find a different one, okay, because there
are some that are very, very infiltrated. All right. So

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I share all of this with the utmost respect for
everybody's free will always whatever I'm sharing. Over the years,
I've had to get more and more confident in sharing
things that are controversial that some people aren't going to like.
But I'm just here to speak my truth as I

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see it, and my biggest hope is to just help
get you thinking and help you make up your own
mind about what you think. Let's read a couple comments
and then we need to close for tonight. Elena says,
as a Catholic, I have to say my denomination is

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heavily infiltrated. It's really dark. Rose says, thank you. Maya
interesting and disturbing topic. I think we all need to
stay aware of what's going on around us. Elena says,
thank you for the class and non sense. Thank you
maya such an important topic. Yeah, I wish we had
more time, but I'm late for something. We went on talking.

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But you'll hear more of these stories later eventually, So gosh, oh,
I do have an announcement, and I'll remind you guys later.
So this is our November class, but December. I usually
take a break from our class in December because everybody

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is usually so busy over the holidays. It's not really
a busy time for me. I just kind of stay
home and chill, but for a lot of people there's
work parties and family parties and all this Christmas shopping
and all of that. So we will take a break
from our class in December, and then we will be

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back at our regular time in January, and we'll jump
right back in for our steady monthly class. Just as usual.
I will be sure to create a couple of mini lessons.
I post those in the Facebook group and on the
YouTube channel, so I will have a few little blurbs

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between now and then that you can watch for and
absolutely feel feel free to continue this conversation in the replay.
So when at wherever you see this replay, post your comments,
your thoughts, your stories, your existential questions because there's no
absolute answers to all of this, right except that I

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think there is an absolute that no religion is an
absolute safe zone, and that's hard to grapple with. But
I think that you'll I think that everyone will experience
a higher level of protection overall protection if if you
can see that and learn to work with that, and

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so that you're not under attack by your clergy or
going to church and coming under attack during the services
or whatever. So it's important to to find out that
middle ground and remember that to use your discernment. Yeah,

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I think I've said what I'm going to say. Yeah,
And Anika says, I hear what you say, and thank you.
Veronica says, thank thanks for being here. MAYA very welcome.
I truly appreciate you guys here in the Free group,
and I truly appreciate the students in my academy. A

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lot of the stuff that I talk about is alternative
to what's popular right now, and so this is why
I appreciate all of you being truth seekers and thinking
for yourselves and considering all of these difficult topics. So
thank you so much, and I look forward to seeing

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you online and in the Facebook group Well lots of
love you guys,