Kristie Interviews Maya Zahira About Her Childhood Paranormal Experiences, Spiritual Mentors, Future Books, and More (2025)

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi everybody. This is Maya's a Hero with Psychic Protection
Sanctuary and we are now live on zoom for our
free monthly class that we offer for members of our
free Facebook group that's called Psychic Protection Sanctuary. And then

(00:27):
after we do the live zoom, then we take the
recording of this and we post it on YouTube. So
hello to all of our live participants, Hello to everybody
on the Psychic Protection Sanctuary Facebook group, and hello to
everybody on the Psychic Protection Sanctuary YouTube channel. And just

(00:51):
a shout out, happy twenty twenty five. We finally made
it into a new year. I wasn't planning on doing
a little mini forecast, but I'm going to say the beginning,
the energy of the beginning of this year is a
little challenging, but overall this year is going to be

(01:11):
pretty like for individuals. I'm not speaking about global events,
but like for individuals, the energy is a little weird
right now, but it's going to get better and it's
going to be a nice, steady, sturdy year of like
building and moving into the right direction for yourself. So

(01:32):
you've got that to look forward to. So if you
happen to be somebody who is feeling the weirdness of
the energy right now. I truly don't believe the whole
year is going to be like this. I think it's
just the beginning of the year and then after that
it's just going to be pretty much on an even keel.
So hang in there. So we're doing something a little

(01:54):
different today. We haven't done a dual zoom teaching uh
and quite a while. It's been a couple of years.
I think I did a couple of them with Stephanie Welbeck,
who's our group admin. And today we have Christy here
with us and her for those of you joining live,

(02:18):
she's the one with the hat, the black hat on
and it says k w ai n So that's Christy
and she's a member of my paid program, Spiritual Empowerment Academy,
and we've worked together for a while. I will let
her introduce herself in a minute. But what we're going
to do today is Christy is going to interview me

(02:41):
and she's going to ask me several different questions that
she has collected that she has thought of herself, and
she's also collected questions from the members of our academy.
Different things that people want to know about me personally
and about what it's like doing the work that I

(03:03):
do with psychic protection, and if we have time at
the end, we'll open it up for you all to
post questions as well, but we'll save that to the end.
It is okay to use the chat option. I'm not

(03:23):
going to be checking that as readily as I always
do in the other classes, but you can. You can comment,
and the other people watching live will be able to
see your comments. If you're like, oh wow, I didn't
realize that, or that sounds cool, or whatever comment that
you want to make, you can use the chat for that. So, Christy,
would you like to tell everybody about just like a

(03:46):
little bit about yourself and your connection with like how
we how we know each other? You can share whatever
amount that you want to share. Yeah. Sure.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
So I started going through a psych attack about four
four almost five, almost five years ago.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
And.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I was directed by a friend to you know, check
out psychic attack because I was going through.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
It and I didn't know what it was. I didn't
know anything about it.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
And that's when I just googled and found myn and
joined the group immediately. And it took about two years
to clear my major psychic attack. I wanted it to
be quick, but it wasn't. But with Maya's hope of

(04:44):
being a teacher and a mentor, I was able to
clear it.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
And then.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
And now I'm thriving, you know, And so I'm just
two years from it and.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Just happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, thank goodness, it's been two years. Yeah, it's been
two years. I can't believe it. I mean, I believe it.
But yeah, you're I'm not going to be sharing any
details about your situation, will keep that private, but I
just wanted to say that your situation was was different

(05:24):
because almost everybody that I work with in the academy
is able to work through the psychic protection issues that
they're dealing with within the twelve months, right, But you
are special, It's special. What I what I remember is

(05:45):
like you came in and you were having issues, and
then you were working through it, but then there was
a certain point where all of a sudden, like a
whole other level ramped up and you and it took
several months to clear that. And then after that you
things have been steadily much better. You've had to use

(06:07):
your discernment on like not participating in certain activities still,
you know, just to keep your energy clean and clear
for a while.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, definitely. But now you know, I
know so much and have learned so much, even just
about myself, I mean, besides psychic protection issues. I mean
that's what I needed in the beginning, and.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
And it just it just has gotten better and better,
you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
It does. It gets better. It's like you have more
tool It's like the psychic protection issues get less. Yeah,
you have because and I'm just saying, like you as
like a collective, you the side of protection issues are
less and less because you've cleared out like all the
root causes. And then also then even with the issues

(07:08):
being less, when something does arise, because living on the
planet there's weird energy all sorts of places that each
of us has more tools and more confidence, so then
we're able to address it much more quickly. And we're
and we've developed our intuition and our and our guidance
and so we right away. And I've noticed this with you,

(07:30):
like you'll be alerted right away, Oh you went somewhere
and there was something weird, and you're like, oh, and
you clear it out right away, so it doesn't have
a chance to ramp up into insane levels of psychic
protection issues. Right, Yeah, so it does. I mean I
think some of us just will always have to have

(07:54):
that awareness of psychic protection. We can't just chuck it
out and just go anywhere and do anything and not
pay attention. Like we all like there's just some sensitivity
about us. But it gets better. It gets better because
we've you know what you do, and then we know
what to do and we nip it in the bud immediately.

(08:14):
Because one of the main problems, like when people first
find me, like in your situation, it's it's like things
have ramped have had a chance to ramp up and
really dig in, and that's why it takes a while
to clear it, right, But when you nip it in
the bud right away, like you've noticed, clears.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Out very quickly, very quickly.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, And so it just.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
It just.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
You just get the tools and then it's then it's
just using your tools. Sometimes it's a little bit more,
but yeah, it depends, it depends. I didn't I need
a little bit more, But mostly it's just using the
tools and being so clear as you can't as much

(09:08):
as I can you can, and then it's it's not
as bad, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
It gets a lot easier. Awesome, Well, thank you so
much for doing this. I think this is a blessing.
I mean, just everybody in FYI, like Stephanie has been
my group admin for a long time. She still is,
and because of that, she was the first person that
I asked, because it was like, oh, of course I

(09:38):
would have Stephanie, but she is. She always has a
personal commitment on these nights, and so I see it
as like like a happy blessing that like, yeah, well
now we get to do this together with Christy, whereas
we wouldn't have met her otherwise. And you know, maybe
at some other time we'll circle back and we can
do something with Stephanie as well. So you want to

(10:04):
dive in and just yeah, questions.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, I have some good questions. I have some simple questions,
but they're but they're poignan, you know what I mean,
they're yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, So we'll just get started.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Then, okay, and you guys, I'm I'm an open book. Yeah,
so I'll answer a lot. I mean, I'll share all
sorts of things with you guys. So let's see what
Christy wants.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
To ask so my first question is, can you tell
me about your first paranormal experience and what age were
you because I know you're pretty young.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, yeah, okay, So I'm gonna briefly about my first
paranormal experience that was positive. I'm my first one that
was negative, because that's a whole other pick. So yeah,
So I actually, for as long as I can remember,

(11:05):
like my first memories, my first memories, I have, some
of my oldest memories are paranormal, and I remember two
different things. The first was actually both of them happened
to be in church, which I know you're going to
ask me about later, but I'll mention that my family
was raising me as Roman Catholic, and so one of

(11:29):
my first memories was that there was this particular church
that we were going to, and I remember there was
one particular priest and I would always notice that he
had a light around him. I would see his energy.
Nobody ever talked about energy. B Like I was Catholic.
It wasn't a New Age family or anything, you know,

(11:51):
a hippie family or anything like that. They didn't talk
about energy or anything like that. So like I didn't
know that it was weird, like I didn't know. I
just didn't even really tell anybody, but I always saw this,
especially around his head, and in the Catholic context, being
a kid going to Sunday school, I like I interpreted

(12:12):
it as that he had a halo. I was seeing
his halo, that he was very holy. And then I
also remember hearing people talking about that priest and saying
that he was very special, that he was different than
the other priest, that he was very he was very holy,
like an exceptionally holy man. So I remember that, and

(12:36):
then I remember also sitting next to my mother. And
I was adopted when I was a child, So when
I say my mother, I mean like my mom, my
parents that adopted me. That's that. Those were my mom
and dad. So I was sitting next to my mom,
and I kind of just slipped into what we might

(13:01):
think of as a past life memory, but it was
a between lives memory I remembered before this lifetime. So
I was probably like, I'm guessing, like four years old, yeah,
and I uh, in real life, I was about four
years old. And then I slipped into this between live's
memory where I was a light, I was a spirit.

(13:28):
I was just this light and I was meeting my mom,
my adopted mom for the first time on the other side,
or like, I don't know if it was our first time.
We probably had met before, but it was like we
were meeting up in preparation for being together in this lifetime. Yeah,

(13:49):
And I tugged on my mom's sleeve and I said, Mommy,
did I know you before I was born? And she
was like, I don't know, kid, you know, I don't know.
Maybe actually didn't know what. But I always remembered that, right,
I always remembered that. I don't recall any negative paranormal

(14:18):
experiences until so I'm going to say that as an adult,
when I've gone back and reflected on certain times in
my life from the adult perspective, I perceive some very
negative things happening paranormally even when I was young. But

(14:40):
growing up, I didn't have those memories, Like I didn't
immediately perceive those things. I didn't have like real time
perception of a negative being. It wasn't until as an adult,
looking back from my perspective as someone who does that
for my clients, where we explore like, well, what happened
to you when you or three? You know, things like

(15:01):
that and I get images, but the real time recognition
was when I hit puberty, when I was an adolescent,
all of a sudden, I was having major spiritual awakening,
which happens to a lot of human beings. That's the
time when they're really waking up. And so that's when
I had I don't remember when the first one was,

(15:23):
but I had several run ins with demonic beings when
I was a teenager. And I also was having spiritual visions,
like positive spiritual visions as a teenager. So I was
having like all this stuff. I was getting some support

(15:43):
for that because being raised in the I was still
involved with the Catholic Church, and even though things aren't
perfect with the Catholic Church, they do have an understanding
of spiritual warfare, and they wouldn't call it paranormal, but

(16:04):
they would recognize what visions are and you know, dark
beings and things like that. So I was able to
work with some of the leaders of the high school
youth group and get some and like talk it out
and have them like help me understand what was happening.

(16:26):
But so as far as psychic and paranormal spiritual experiences,
I've had those since I was young, So it's just
always been. And then even like psychic experiences of like
premonitions and things like that, I was having premonitory dreams.

(16:47):
I don't remember when the first one was, but it
was a pretty common thing. You know. I would have
a dream about somebody that I hadn't seen in a while,
and then I would see them. Or I would be
with a friend and they would start to ask me
something and I would hear the rest of the question
before they had said it, and then I would answer them.
They would get mad at me, you know. Then I
saw there were a couple of times when I saw

(17:08):
ghosts and my friend said that I was lying, and
I was not lying. But in my first book, Darkness
Disguised as Light, I do talk about some of my
stories from when I was younger. I share some of
the stories more more in depth. Yeah, yeah, that's the

(17:31):
next Yeah. So I could keep talking and talking, but
I'm going to stop and no, it's.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Okay, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
And so the next question was how did you cope
with the experience? Is you know, like, did you become
withdrawn or did it did it more excite you or
did it scare you? You know what I mean, like,
how did it did it affect you?

Speaker 1 (17:56):
And yeah, oh that's a good question. Let me think
about that. Well, so there's a couple of things. First,
the positive experiences. I remember being a kid at school
swinging really high on the swing set, and I was

(18:18):
I had friends and stuff. But you know, kids sometimes
will play by themselves, and I was playing by myself,
and I just I'm hesitating because I think you guys
know me. Well, I'm just going to say what I
was really feeling, even as a young child, and you
can interpret it however you want to. I'm not intending
it in some like megalomaniac like ego trip fit anything

(18:45):
like that. But when I was little, I was a
little grade school kid, and I knew that I was
supposed to be doing something important in this life. I
didn't know what, but I felt this spiritual connection and
it was like I knew, I knew that I was
here for something. And then I continued to feel that

(19:08):
my entire upbringing. And then when I graduate, like when
I was in college and I graduated college and I
was just stepping outside of the box of Catholicism for
various reasons, and I remember feeling this kind of sense
of like, oh my gosh, like I always felt like
I was supposed to do, like there was some like

(19:30):
spiritual calling now, but I'm stepping out way from the
Catholic Church, and like I was like a little bit
confused for a little while. But of course we don't
have to belong to a specific religion in order to
accomplish our spiritual mission. But at that time, you know,
that was all that I had known. So so there

(19:52):
was a little bit of like coping and trying to
understand as I was growing up as far as the
negative that really started hit me caught consciously and clearly
and knowingly. When I was a teenager, I did have
periods where I was scared. There was one period of

(20:13):
time where I was under attack, and I remember feeling
afraid for a couple of weeks. Like I would come
home late at night from working at the Frozen Yogurt shop,
remember TCB, Why you guys. I would come home, my
parents would already be in bed, and I'd be like
making sure there was no entity in the room and

(20:34):
things like that, and so you know, and so I
think having those experiences when I was young toughened me up. Yeah,
because I couldn't talk to my parents about that stuff.
I won't go into the whole family to family dynamics,
but you know, I mean it's not uncommon that, like,
you know, your loved ones don't always understand that stuff.

(20:56):
And so again, I did have a couple of church
youth group leaders that I could talk to that I
knew that that helped give validation and helped me to
like regain a feeling of safety. But yeah, I did
have times when I was scared. But I think I

(21:16):
think having those experiences so early on did toughen me
up so that I was able to tolerate more as
an adult. Even now in my work, there's not very
much that freaks me out, although I have a healthy
sense of caution about certain things that we don't really

(21:39):
need to be cautious of. But I don't have that,
But I'm able to tolerate a lot more that If
someone else had never had any of these experiences and
then all of a sudden, for the first time at
age fifty two, they see an entity, they would be
shrinking out or maybe you know, kind of lose their

(22:00):
mind a little bit. Yeah, So anyway, that's that's answer
to that question.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
The you answered most of them.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I was asked going to ask you, did you notice
anything that increased or decreased paranormal activity as you were
growing up?

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Negative or positive question?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, there was gosh, some of this I hadn't really
thought of in such a long time. So, yeah, this
is great. And I know I looked at your questions,
but some of these I'm not I'm not remembering, and
that's good. It's hitting me for the first time. I'm like, oh,
great question, I hadn't thought of that. Okay, So let's
talk about the negative stuff, like what what helped with

(22:48):
the negative spiritual activity? Now, I didn't have the whole
scope of knowledge and toolbox that I have now right
that that I wakened to when I went through my
major entite attack in twenty sixteen that I talked about
in darkness disguised as light. I didn't have all of that,

(23:12):
all the different tools. What I had then was the
religion that I had been raised with. So I'm just
clarifying that there are many ways that we can protect ourselves.
But that was the context that I was living in,
and so when I was in high school, I was
sleeping with my rosary around my neck. Yeah, and that

(23:36):
helped me. I was saying the Hail Mary prayers. I
was saying the prayers of the Rosary. And I did
acquire a lot of protection from who I call the
Divine Mother because I think now at this point in
my life, I think she has many forms. I think

(23:58):
she shows up in my many cultures, many forms, many religions.
But it's this, this Divine Mother essence. And there were
times where, uh, there was major spiritual warfare happening in
my bedroom and I saw a vision of her. I
saw her face, and there was this dark entity and

(24:23):
she she kicked ASTs. I'll just say that she she
fought it for me because I didn't know. I didn't
know how, I didn't know about all the things I
didn't know about all the methods that I that I
teach now. So I was using very rudimentary tools back then,
but I did but I did survive. I made it through.

(24:44):
I made it through. But that's that's that's what I
was utilizing back then.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
And so did you did you mostly turn to her
after that?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Or did you you.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Know what I mean, like, did you rely more on
your faith?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Like?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Did it deepen your faith. And you know, when things
were bad, did you immediately call her?

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah? I think it was kind of both. And because
I have always been very, very spiritual, and I just
happened to be raised within the context of the Roman
Catholic religion, and so I was also very religious.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I was a very religious child even before. And I
don't mean like in a like Bible thumper, Like I
wasn't like preaching at people and shoving it down people's throats.
It wasn't that version. I know, there's so many versions
of how different faiths can be represented, and and for

(25:54):
me it was you know, I was kind of a
weird kid. I was spending a lot of time even
as a I mean I fit in at school, but
in my own private time, I was praying a lot. Now,
I want to be clear in my academy and in

(26:16):
my interactions just with all of you and out in
the world that I consider my Now, I consider myself interfaith,
which means that I work with people of all faiths,
and I love all faiths, except for any faiths that

(26:36):
like intentionally are doing evil, because there are faiths that
do that. But so I'm very interfaith but at the
time growing up, I was very, very Catholic, and so
from the Catholic and Christian perspective, I was spending a
lot of time in prayer, praying to Jesus, praying to Mary,

(26:57):
doing the Rosary, and then we went to church once
a week. But I was way more religious that like
my my family was like go to church on Sunday religious.
And my dad really believed in the in the faith.
He believed the dogma. I was always like, but why,

(27:19):
but why why? But I thrown him crazy because I
was always a questioner, which is why I eventually left
the faith, because I was like, all, this doesn't add
up for me. But he so he believed in the dogma,
the Catechism, he believed in all of the teachings. But

(27:41):
mainly it wasn't like a spiritual family that I was
raised by. I was the one that was spiritual, spending
a lot of time in prayer and then so I
already was that way. And then when I started going
through attacks when I was in high school, I was
equally spiritual and in prayer when I was under attack

(28:06):
compared to when I wasn't. Yeah, And in fact, it
was funny because my parents. So I don't mean any disrespect.
I mean the fact that I was adopted. I kind
of laugh. I'm like, I mean, I'm glad that I
was adopted by a good family. But it's like they
didn't understand how I operated, you know. And so I

(28:30):
was very interested in my internal world and the spiritual
and when I was a teenager, they were like they
interpreted me as wanting to go out with boys and
wanting to have a boyfriend and wanting to do all
the teenager things, which I was also sort of interested in.
But when I was single, when I was between boyfriends,

(28:54):
I have to say I've never said this to really anybody.
I was the happiest, I was spending time reading, and
I don't This is no disrespect to anyone that I dated,
or to men or anything, but it's more of a
comment commentary on who I am as a person. I
just have always been the the like spiritual seeker. I

(29:18):
think I was a nun in some past lives, not
all past lives, you know. And I really did enjoy dating.
I enjoyed dating. I had some really nice boyfriends, had
some great fun relationships from wonderful I did fall in
love I had some relationships where I genuinely fell in love.

(29:40):
But my truest self, my truest self was the one
that was a seeker and I was reading. I was
getting books on spiritual topics in grade school and you know,
and science, science and spiritual like both. And my teachers

(30:01):
were like, why are you reading that? And I'm like,
just more fun, I know. And in high school, you know,
I a relationship broke up and I was like, had
all these books and I was reading, and I was
in prayer and like I said, I was kind of
a weird teenager, but I think that was my truest self, right,
And then the other part of me was who my

(30:23):
parents thought that I was. And so like how I
just described myself, my truest self. That's how I live now.
Like I'm the hermit, spiritual seeker. I do love to
spend time with people, but maybe just once a week
and then then get back, go back. Yeah, so this

(30:47):
is really fun. I'm sharing stuff I haven't shared with
people in a very long time. So you guys are
seeing anyway, what's the next question.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
The next one was who was your first mentor? But
I think you mentioned that it was the.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I had one particular high school youth group leader, and
she happened to live across the street, and so I
would go across the street and I would talk to her,
and we maintained that relationship all through high school. And
then there were some things that changed when I went

(31:23):
to college, and so we didn't really maintain that after that.
But that was just a real life saver to be
able to have her just I don't know that she
like taught me skills or information, but just she helped

(31:45):
validate my experiences.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, if that makes sense. Yeah, to be able to
speak a loud about it. I didn't speak a loud
about it, so I was grown in my forties.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I can I don't know if
you're going to ask this later, but I can talk
about I am interested in talking about other mentors. Mentors.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I love the fact that you had mentors at a
young age, because, yeah, that will to be able to.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Talk about it with somebody.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, So that that really was a blessing, And it's
good for me to get that feedback because actually, you know,
sometimes we're kind of we have our own interpretations of
our lives and then we hear someone else mirror to
us and it's like, oh, yeah, I was really blessed

(32:49):
to have that. I Yes, I really was, because the
thing to speak it out loud. Yeah, Because one of
the feelings that I have had over many years of
my adulthood has been a feeling of frustration and a
little bit of sadness and like feeling like I've missing

(33:14):
out or something, because as an adult, I never did
really find very many good mentors. And I will speak
about a few of them, but somebody it lasts this
past December, who was asking me, Oh, who did you

(33:36):
mentor with for psychic protection? And I'll talk about that
in a minute, because it's like, no, I haven't found anybody,
you know, But I'll talk about that in a second.
But I did have. I studied with a variety of
people briefly in my twenties when I first started to

(33:59):
study energy healing, because I didn't have any experiences with
energy healing until I was an adult in my twenties,
so I had a lot of psychic and paranormal experiences
as a child, but nothing that would be described as
energy healing or any knowledge of energy healing. But I

(34:20):
started to learn about energy healing because I was living
in a small town and the manager of the nutrition
store told me about reiki and about some other things,
and so I started seeking out classes and I would
take like actually I started studying reiki twenty five years

(34:44):
ago before it was popular, and I really liked my
first reiki teacher. She was a very elderly woman, so
she wasn't like new age La La Land. She was
this old lady who was just really nice, and uh,

(35:04):
that was why I chose her, because the first person
that I met, like because like now, everybody does reiki,
but back then, I found one person in my town
who did reiki and she was very like spiritual channeling
La La. And even though back then I didn't know
about false light like I do now, I still was like,

(35:25):
I don't really want to learn from that lady, like
she's like, I don't really. But then I found out
about this wonderful old lady in the next town and
I took my first reiki classes with her, and that
most people know nowadays, reiki classes are usually one day,

(35:49):
so it wasn't an ongoing mentorship. It was just like
that block of time. And then I also did some
learning of like more formal psychic development studies here and
there with someone named Sharon Landreth. I don't know if

(36:11):
she's still living or if she's on the other side
or not. But she went on and this was in
that small town in Kansas. She went on to teach
at the Omega Institute. Later after I worked with her,
and I worked with her only in like a group
group setting, not private mentoring. Then when I hit into

(36:35):
my thirties, forties and fifties, the mentors that I was
finding were not very good mentors. They were confused about integrity,
lack of integrity, lack of professional boundaries. I did, forget
to mention one person that was kind of a mixed
situation in my what was it was I in my thirties.

(37:00):
In my thirties, there were several years where I was
working with a woman who mostly it was in a
group in group groups that she was leading. These were
where we learned shamanic methods. I also learned more formally.

(37:22):
Like I learned, I was able to get more direction
in how to use oracle cards and tarot cards and pendulum,
which I already sort of knew how to use. But
in her classes she was teaching that, and so I
developed more mastery of that. But mostly what I got
from her was the ability to connect with the Earth

(37:47):
in a different way. Now she was not indigenous Native
American blood, but her, but I think we can all
be connected with earth, right, So, but just clarifying, this
was not specifically Native American teachings. But there were some

(38:09):
really confused some some not great things that she was teaching,
like very staunch positive vibes, only you're not allowed to
ever say anything negative. It was very like toxic positivity.
And that's when I stopped going. And it was also

(38:29):
body shaming. There were some overweight people. Now she wasn't
trying to body shame. She really believed what she was teaching.
She really believed what she was teaching. But there were
some I was I was thinner than I am now
when I was attending that group, But there were some

(38:51):
other people who were curvier gals. She was teaching that
any extra wait means that you have stuck energy. A
couple of the participants were teenage teenage young women, and
I just almost lost it. I was like, this is

(39:14):
so harmful. And that was the same meeting where I
was trying to be authentic and share about some things
on my heart. And she was like, no, no, no, cancel, clear, delete,
don't say anything negative. And I was like, I'm done
with this shit. I never went back. I never went back.
I did have the opportunity to tell her. I had

(39:37):
a conversation with her a few years later and I
explained to her why I never came back, and I
think we have a good professional relationship now as peers,
so that's good. And I did, like I said, it
was a mixed bag because I really did get a
lot from our work together. And like, there was one

(39:58):
practice that she taught us where for we were supposed
to choose a plant, and so we would meet once
a month and we were supposed to choose a plant,
and every day we were supposed to sit with that
plant and develop a relationship with it and hopefully outdoors
to find a native plant sit outdoors, but if you couldn't,

(40:20):
you could do one indoors and you were to sit
there and listen and receive whatever the plant energy, whatever
the plant medicine wanted to share with you. And I
started and it was a wonderful experience, and I started
to have other experiences where I would be digging in
the dirt, planting in the flower garden, and I would

(40:41):
receive messages from other plants about herbs that I should
take that were going to help heal, you know, whatever
condition I was dealing with at the time, and it
was just really it was a magical experience being a
part of that group until it wasn't anymore, you know
what I mean, And then I knew I needed I

(41:04):
like my bubble was burst and I was like, I
can't go back this. There's some unhealthy things here. And
then after that, I had a whole string of people
that I tried to study with who really were what
i'll call spiritual predators, the type of people that I
talk about in my third book, The Dark Side. I

(41:25):
forget the name of my third book, The Dark Side
of Spiritual Healers, et cetera, et cetera. It's a long time, yeah.
And so there were various people that had different levels
of predatory behaviors and really toxic and dysfunctional behaviors, and

(41:46):
so like, I tried to retake some of my levels
of energy healing that I had taken in my twenties,
tried to retake those in my late thirties and my forties,
and yeah, there was some not not great experiences and
and so I actually went back and undid the attunements
that they did on me because I was like, I

(42:09):
don't want them to have access to my energy because
it was not a good experience. And I'm being vague
out of respect for like, I'm not going to be
calling out people, but just talking about the fact that
I did have several experiences that were not great. And
then I'll end this question by saying that after I

(42:33):
really had that awakening about the subject of psychic protection
when I went through my situation in twenty sixteen, you know,
I always felt like, well, whatever, like you should always
have try to seek mentors who know more than you
do so you can learn from them. And I was

(42:54):
trying to find, like, anybody who knew as much as
I did about psychic protection. And then I did find
a shaman who is world renowned and out of respect,
I'm not going to say the name of who it is,
and I found his information online and I was so

(43:16):
excited because even though he wasn't talking about all the
layers and levels and scope of what I talk about,
he was teaching and talking about entity extraction and soul retrieval,
and I was like, yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Great, so that was my next subject.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I was so excited. And then I bought one of
his books on Kindle and I was reading the introduction
and I started to cry because he was talking about
how he had been very ill and he received a
healing from John of God, who is a major spiritual predator.

(43:56):
I think John of God was in Brazil, Is that right, major.
I'll just let you google him. I won't go into
his whole story my uh so, John of God was
very popular with the Kansas City spiritual community. When I
was in Kansas City and everybody kept trying to get

(44:16):
me to go and do a pilgrimage down there, and
I was like, I don't have a good feeling about this.
So I pulled up John of God's website. I looked
at his picture and what I even before I had
that psychic protection awakening, so this was before then. I
pulled up the picture and I immediately knew this person

(44:38):
has multiple negative entities attached to him. This is very
very dark, and yes he is healing people. That's confusing
because it's confusing because some people are experiencing healings, but
it's through these negative entities that are then feeding. It's
this weird thing where then they're feeding off of them.
And there were a lot, and I looked at it

(45:00):
and I was like, he's a major sexual predator. Well
about a year later he turned himself in for I
didn't know that he spent time in prison for some
of the horrible things that he did. So when I
knew this mentor that I was thinking about working with,
this shaman that I was thinking about working with, had

(45:22):
received quote healing from a major dark player of the
Web of Dark forces, I was like, there's no way
I can ever like be hooked into that. I can't
And so then that was my last attempt to find
a mentor in psychic protection. But honestly, I've accepted now

(45:48):
that now I don't think that I have more knowledge
than everyone on the planet, Like there are other people
who have all sorts of levels of us the Terek
knowledge that I'll probably never have. But what I know
about entities and psychic protection and spiritual awareness, like what

(46:09):
I know, I haven't met anyone else who knows that.
And I will tell you this other thing too. A
couple of years ago, I was like I kept I
still felt like I need to be working with a mentor.
I need to find someone. So a friend recommended someone
that she knew who does understand about spiritual warfare from

(46:31):
his perspective as a fundamentalist Christian man. And I will
emphasize that he is a very nice man, and I
think a very spiritual man, a very religious man who
has a very strong faith. And I think he has
he has knowledge in his scope of knowledge right, he has,

(46:55):
he has his own knowledge. I think he really really
wanted to me. I think he really liked me and
really wanted to be a mentor for me. But what
I kept finding over and over again was that we
would be on a session and I would tell him

(47:16):
about a situation like I told him about how you know,
I went to I'm not going to go into all
the details here, but I went to a local event
that turned out to be very unsafe spiritually okay, And
there was someone and I have told my academy members
about this story. It involves a butcher knife. I don't

(47:39):
know if you remember this story, but it was very unsafe.
There was someone at this at this house like afternoon
pot luck thing that was very controlled by negative forces,
and so it was very unsafe, like this person was
going to attack me, okay, And so this mentor that

(48:03):
I was working with was like, well, you've talked about
feeling really isolated in your role, so I'm really glad
that you got out of the house and that was
a big win. And I was like, you're like, you're wrong.
I almost got stabbed to death, you know, that's totally
And I was like, he does not understand, right, the

(48:24):
level of physical danger that can occur with some people
when they're uh, you know, when they're around other humans
who are being run by dark or demonic forces, Like
they're serious, Like you got to be aware, like Christy
and I were talking about at the beginning, once you

(48:46):
have awareness, then like if you have been a targeted individual,
you develop awareness. And then like now I know, I'm
not going to any potlucks and that's fine, I'm perfectly happy,
but for to be recommended that, oh you should, are
you going to go again? And like no, of course
I'm not going to go to that again. Why why

(49:09):
are a lot of so so there was a lot
of bad a lot of bad advice but well, meaning,
what do you do you think.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
That your guides and and did they did they just
let you come to your own conclusions?

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yes, Okay, So I know, I know I'm being vague
about this story. And there's a lot of I do
open up a lot more to the students in my academy,
and it's not out of any ill will to to
the public, but it's more just for my own safety.
There are certain things that did I share more openly,
you know, in that more private container, but in that

(49:49):
circumstance that I'm like vaguely speaking about where there was
some danger that was a very interesting situation. Uh. In fact,
for a day or two before that event, when I
would sit in my morning meditation, I kept getting the

(50:10):
information that that event was dangerous for me. And normally,
if something is dangerous for me, I say, okay, well
I'm not going, you know, no, dubt, I'm not going,
you know, like of course I'll go do something else.
But when I checked in, because I will always double

(50:33):
interpal check things like okay, so this is not safe, Okay,
does that mean that I'm not supposed to go? And
this was coming like the main place that I connect
with for my questions when I'm asking for answers and
truth is my inner self checking in with my soul

(50:58):
or I call it inner guide, whatever you want to
call it. And it was like, well, you are supposed
to go. You are supposed to go, and you are
supposed to make sure that you uh, this is what
sounds so weird. It was like, normally I would never
go to something like this, but I just felt it

(51:20):
was so clear. It was you are supposed to go
to this and do not eat or drink anything that
they give you, and you keep your car keys on
you at all times. And so when it came down
to it and this person that I really I am
a thousand percent positive that she had a demon attached

(51:42):
to her that recognized me right and hate. From the
second that I walked in the door, I was like,
that's the person I knew right away, And so I
made sure that I sat so crazy that I even
went to this thing, but I made sure that I
sat where I could get to the door, because she

(52:04):
when I walked in the door, they said, oh, why
don't you sit over there? It was like like like
a sectional couch where once you get in there, you
can't get out, like you've got to climb over the
back of the couch to get out, to get out
the door. And so I was like, no, thanks, I'll
sit at the kitchen table, thank you, where I can
just like go take a straight line out the door.

(52:26):
And I think, so long story short, I think it
was a practice in being able to walk, so being
able to utilize my discernment, being able to walk into
a place that had some danger and to navigate that

(52:53):
because mostly I believe this. I know other people have
different approaches that are much more aggressive, but I believe
in choosing my battles. I'm not going to typically go
to something like that, to an event like that, knowing
that it's unsafe. I'm typically going to save my battles

(53:14):
for when I'm working with my clients when they are
dealing to help them with spiritual warfare. I'm not going
to go to some event or situation where I'm going
to be put in danger or I have to do
major clearing afterwards. So in my personal life, I'm very
choosy who I spend time with and what I do,

(53:35):
because again, I choose my battles. So it was very
it was very unusual that I even went to this,
but I just felt so strong. I knew that it
was unsafe, and I knew that I was supposed to go.
And so the funny thing was that i have a
particular food that I'm not going to name, that I'm

(53:56):
very allergic to, and I'm sitting They're at the kitchen
table and they're bringing out the potluck food and they're like,
would you like some of this? Would you like some
of this? Would you like some of this? Every single
one of those foods had the ingredient that I'm allergic to. No,
not kidding, not kidding, And I was like, they're trying

(54:16):
to kill me or make me unwell. You know, they
make me unwell. So they probably weren't trying to kill me,
but you know whatever, but to make me unwell. So
that was one situation where, you know, I call it

(54:37):
the learning boot camp. We have different members in the academy,
yourself included Christy, that there are situations that arise where
I'm like, oh, you're being presented with a boot camp,
like you're supposed to learn from this. You're supposed to
whether it's learn discernment or protection or whatever. Sometimes we're

(54:58):
put through different lessons. So that yeah. But after that,
when my mentor at the time was like, oh, you
should keep going back, I was like, that's the worst
advice ever. No, no, And I want to emphasize this
really great guy, really great guy. But I was like,

(55:20):
he he needs to be like I like, I just
kept having to explain everything to him. And I was like,
he needs to be taking my classes because he's but no,
I don't think he needs He's on his own path.
But I was like, but he just didn't. He didn't
have like the scope of understanding. He had a smaller

(55:40):
scope that was more of the scope of his particular religion,
and he didn't he didn't know all of the other stuff.
So so that was my final mentor. And I finally
was like, Okay, I've just been mentoring myself. I've accepted that.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
That was the point of that, that saying that you
think that your guides were saying for you to realize
that you there were no more mentors that you were
at the top of this particular you know genre.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Well, that brings up a good point and it's actually
something that I've been kind of fighting against internally for
a long time, because, you know, obviously, I kept feeling
like I wanted a mentor. I wanted someone ahead of
me who could tell me that everything's okay, like it's okay, okay,

(56:36):
like what I do for.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
You that's very comforting, Like I really want that, and
I want someone to guide me, and and I kept
wanting that, But at the same time, I kept getting
this imagery.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Uh. It was this imagery of people in a line,
like out in the out in the like out in nature,
people like I don't know, out on the prairie, or
the pioneer, like the pioneers on the prairie. We're all
in a line, and I just happened to be the

(57:14):
first person right in the Like not that I'm special
or whatever, It's just I just happened to be the
first person in the line. And then there are others
who are equally significant who are following behind in the line,
and I just happen to be the first in the line.
Now there are other people who talk about some of

(57:36):
the things that I talk about, like false light, but
I still have continued to feel like we're not quite
on the same wave, like like like we're not in
the same like we're not the same line. The same lineage,
and so I've accepted that, like I've accepted the role.
I've really come into more peace in the last year.

(57:57):
I believe me. It is i went through years of
like this in turn, all inner struggle of wanting things
to be different. But I've come to accept and have
more piece of being the the pioneer, like the pioneering person,
like the first person bringing forth certain information. And there

(58:19):
isn't that person. Like I joke that I need my
own personal maya. There's like me, okay, because sometimes when
things get hard and but I don't have I don't
have that. But I've I've done a lot of internal healing.
I've really felt a shift, especially in the last six months,
where I'm like, okay, okay, I think I have this

(58:41):
more of an acceptance and an inner piece of this
this role and being being the being a way shower,
because there are many people on the planet who are
in a role of pioneer and way shower with different
things in science, in music, in like whatever area that

(59:02):
you might name there. They might not have mentors directly
ahead of them, right like they are the one coming
up with a new idea or bringing in bringing forth
the new idea. So we have you know, thousands upon
thousands of pioneers on the planet. But so I just

(59:24):
want to acknowledge that, like, I'm not the only pioneer,
but it's been it's been a role that I spent
a few years of grappling with. But now now I
have more acceptance of it.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Right, Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
It's very comforting to know that there there is somebody
like you, because I don't think I would have made
it through, you know, without without all of your help
and and just.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
I had to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I had to, you know, learn to trust you very quickly,
and it just became, it just happened.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Well. I will also say that, you know, as as
ethical as I am in wanting to maintain roles where
there's not a confusion of professional roles, and so you know,
when people join the Academy, I understand that I'm the
facilitator and I'm not calling up members and saying can

(01:00:33):
you give me advice on this, because that's not that's
not the established roles that we have together. But I
will so with that said, though, I receive comfort being
a part of our academy and being a part of

(01:00:54):
even our free group coming on here on Zoom. It
is a comfort to me to know that there are
like minded souls. Just that is a comfort to me.
And yeah, and I receive a lot thank you for
the air kisses. I do receive a lot from that.

(01:01:14):
It really feeds feeds my soul.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Yeah, saved my soul.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
One of the one of the good questions was what
was a psychic protection tool that you found very effective
for yourself? Because everybody is going to be different, but
what that you were surprised about that was something simple
or or you know, just a tool that you that

(01:01:53):
you really found helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
So so now more as an adult, so we're not
talking about childhood. We talked about in my adolescence, the
rosary was my go to. I wore that around my
dad all the time. But as an adult, you know,
as I have really delved into the area of psychic protection,
one of the methods that continues to surprise me how

(01:02:20):
well it works that I'm just like wow, is the
reversal candle that I teach. Now, I didn't originally come
up with that method. It's originally from who do practices.
It's a particular type of candle. I'm not gonna describe

(01:02:42):
it today, but you can always look at my first book,
Darkness Disguised as Light, or you can just google reversal
Candle and you'll just you can go down a little
rabbit hole and learn about that. But there are complicated
ways that you can do it, but there are simple
ways that you can do it. And I'm all about simplicity.

(01:03:05):
That's just me. I think if people, if people want
to add more complexity, that's great and that works for them.
But I've had instances where some people, so I'm going
to specify living people, so not not just entity issues,
but I've had some very powerful, some people who are

(01:03:32):
very powerful who are misusing their spiritual abilities try to
attack me, and literally, just by using a reversal candle,
that took care of sending most of that negative energy back.
And I want, like, I'm constantly surprised by it. I'm

(01:03:56):
burning one right now over there because there was a
weird there's some because I work with so many people
who are under psychic attack, and some of them are
under attack by living people, not entities, by people who
are dark shamans, satanic witches. Like what a little list

(01:04:21):
of all the different people and so I do cloak
very carefully when I do that work. But I also
like every once in a while one of those people
will get a peek at me. Is very rare, and
so I use the reversal candle to just like anything

(01:04:42):
that they're trying to send at me to get people
to stop helping the client. I just keep reversing it.
I keep reversing it. There was a situation a couple
of years ago where there's someone in a city where
I used to live who had actually who was powerful
enough that she had murdered people through magic, okay, and

(01:05:05):
I got on her radar accidentally. It's a long story,
but I accidentally got on her radar by contacting someone
that she's friends with, and I didn't realize it until later.
And then immediately, like within that day, there were signs

(01:05:26):
of attack, of indications of psychic attack. All of a sudden,
the water in my house all shut off, my car
wouldn't start. I forget what else happened, but it was
like classic psychic attack. It was like I have a
whole list of symptoms in darkness disguises light, and I
was like, oh, geez, I better take care of this.
And so I did some like my usual go to

(01:05:51):
is just using my mind and meditation, I can clear
out a ton of I'm at the point now where
I don't need the physical tools. I can push stuff out,
and I don't need all the bells and whistles anymore.
But when it came to her, I did need to
do a physical action. And as soon as I started

(01:06:14):
using the candle, within twelve hours everything was cleared, and
I was like, Wow, this is I was impressed because
this is a lady who's murdered people with magic, and
she's she has since passed away, so hopefully she is
heeled wherever she is, hopefully she's healed. But so the

(01:06:39):
candle is my most surprising, Like, Wow, I can't believe
how well that works, especially when it's used right at
the beginning of the issue. When it's used ten years
after the issue started, it's going to take you probably
like months of candle burning, and that's fine, you've got
to be persist. But if it's done right away them

(01:07:00):
in an immediate sort of way, then it's like, wow,
I can't believe how well that works. But my but
my daily go to is just I do I meditate
or what I call it meditate, but some people wouldn't.
I go sit out in nature, out in my backyard,
and I stare at the mountain and then I and
I also I become aware of what's going on in

(01:07:22):
my energy, what's going on in the in the in
like around my property, and I just give instructions like
this needs to move out, you know. I just so
just use it using my will.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
I love the candles.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
They're so easy. You guys are so you don't have
to have special knowledge. And some of our members make
their own candles, which is cool, but or you can
buy them. It's okay either way. I buy them, but
I have I have asked of making my own at
some point. I just haven't had time, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
So do you have any new books in the works?
Oh and if well, well let me ask you this first.
So you've written and self published three amazing books. Would
you ever would you ever consider working with a publishing company.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I'm so glad you asked about this, because I don't
think that I've talked about this in a long time,
like I've probably mentioned it somewhere in some tiny place
years ago. So I originally was going to publish my
first book through hay House, and hay House is a

(01:08:53):
spiritual publishing company. I do have some thoughts on hey,
how I'm not gonna I mean, I I'll just say
I think there's a lot of false light. I think
there's a lot of false light. But I'm not trying
to disparage a whole company. I mean, pretty much every

(01:09:14):
corner of popular spirituality has a lot of false light.
So I'm not trying to disparage a whole publishing company.
But I was going to publish through them. I had
the manuscript of my book done, of my first book,
and I get it. I understand where they were coming from,

(01:09:35):
but I didn't agree that because they are just very
careful about legal issues. They they they wanted me to
change a whole bunch of details about the book, and
they also wanted me to use a pen name and

(01:09:58):
not my real name, so that everything that I was
sharing about what happened to me couldn't be identified, because
they didn't want someone to come and say that's about me,
you know, the like that that they were being slandered
or libeled or whatever, and that like they didn't want
to come back on them. And I said, well, I'll
due respect, Why would I be writing a book like

(01:10:21):
this and like people can't find me because through this
like secret name. And I was like, no, I I
need to be able to tell my story how it
really happened. And then of course I this is standard
in writing. I did make some details vague on purpose,

(01:10:45):
because I wasn't because I needed to keep people's identities confidential.
That was my intent. I changed a few details, like
little details about like what physical objects looked like. There
were some physical objects that I described, and I made
them different than they actually were, just so that individuals

(01:11:07):
would not be identified, just out of respect, but also
for legal concerns, because if you do write a book
and you're identifying that someone did bad things, like you know,
the person might not like it. So even when I
decided to self publish, I did, you know, change names

(01:11:29):
and identities and things like that in the in actually
all all of my books. That's just standard because I
have to protect myself and I protect those the other people,
including those who did things that weren't that great. So
I respectfully said no to hey house, I'm like, no,

(01:11:52):
I'm not doing that, and then I self published and
I never looked back. I did getting emails from a
couple of publishing companies, and I even sent one to
Stephanie one time and I said, what do you think.
She was like, no, lots of dark energy, and I
was like, yeah, yeah, like I don't so. But the

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question was, if a publishing company ever approached me, would
I consider it. I would be thrilled if if a
legitimate publishing company, like not just somebody doing it out
of their garage, but like a real, real, real publishing
company contacted me, But I still would make I still

(01:12:37):
would be making the ethical decision. I would be saying,
is this a company that it like, is this a
publishing company that really cares about putting forth the truth right?
Or are they because a thing about publishing? And this
is true with most people who publish, who are like

(01:12:58):
famous authors who publish with big companies. The publishing company says,
we don't like this section. You have to take out
this whole chapter and you have to change these details,
like that's that standard, that is just publishing, and my
interest is in the truth, and that that means did
I make like twenty bucks a month of my books?

(01:13:21):
I would rather Okay, it's a labor of love. It's
a labor of love, right, and I would rather have
the truth get out there then then then then have
high numbers. That's just that's my that's my philosophy. So
are there any other books in the works? Yes, okay?

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
And tell us a little snake peek if you okay?

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
All right, So so far I've got three books. The
first one tells my origin story, how I got started
in this work, and also gives information about psychic protection.
The next one is like cook it's like an explosion
of psychic protection, like pretty deep stuff of like it

(01:14:07):
was basically like all like Maya's brain dumped out on
into a book of the awakening that I had after
my attack in twenty sixteen. And then the third book
is all about of spiritual predators in the in spiritual communities.
The first three books, I especially number two and number three,

(01:14:29):
I felt very I'm trying to think of the right word,
like I just felt such I felt such a push
to complete those books, like I need to hurry up
and get them done because and I'll share something that
I've really only shared with my academy members. I was

(01:14:51):
having a lot of really serious medical issues that were
of you know, the original cause was genetic, and I
was like, I have to finish my second book or
my third book. I have to finish it just in
case if I die. I have to get this out.
I have to get this out there. I have to

(01:15:12):
get this out there. So the second book, I was like,
really struggling. I'm not going to because this goes out
to the public. I'm not going to be specific what
the issues were, but I was like, I got to
get this second book done. I got it, and I
was like busting my but getting that out there to
make sure that it got out there was such a push.

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And then I didn't feel as intense of a push
by the third book, but it was still like this
has to get out there. And then this past year
I experienced, and I'm going to do a video about
this separately, at some point I experienced incremental healing, and

(01:15:56):
it was a very difficult process. It wasn't all at
won and in fact, I've spent many years doing self healing,
and it just so happened that on this particular year
I was able to experience some breakthroughs and I feel
very confident. Well, I actually had an exit date where

(01:16:18):
I was supposed to leave last summer and I didn't,
and I made an agreement with the powers that be.
I said, I'm staying. I do not want to leave
and have to start over in a new body. With
this mission, I'm staying. And if I'm staying, I expect
for the excruciating pain to go away. I expect for

(01:16:43):
the health to improve dramatically, even if it's not perfect.
I expect major breakthrough. And also I had to rewrite
my timeline in order to not exit. I had to
do very intense advanced energy work to rewrite my my

(01:17:03):
timeline so that I wouldn't exit. And I didn't. So
I am still here. I'm going to write an art,
I'm going to do do a video or an article
about how you know, like basically this past year, this
is the start of my new life and I'm going
to be here for many more years. But and I
know it, I know it for a fact. But the

(01:17:27):
energy of the first three books was like this sense
of urgency, like I've got to get this out there
just in peace. And then after I finished the third book,
I said, okay, I'm forcing myself to take six months
of no writing. And it was when I was also

(01:17:50):
working on some other levels of healing, and I said,
I'm just going to focus on healing. I'm going to
focus on my academy students and and that's it. I'm
going to give myself six months. That way, when I
get ready to start writing, then I have a lot
more clarity and I'm ready and I know exactly what
I want to write next. Well, something interesting happened, and

(01:18:11):
I don't want y'all to be disappointed, but that six months,
Like I would normally have started writing now in January,
but the clarity that came to me over the last
couple of months was this clarity about how I had
to get those first three books done. And it feels
like now there's supposed to be some space between the

(01:18:35):
first three books and whatever comes next. And so I'm
planning on I might change my mind, but I'm planning
on taking twenty twenty five to just just not write
and just let things gel, let more awakening in our
awakening come forth, which will then go into writing, focus

(01:19:01):
on my academy students, continue to cultivate even more healing,
and just chill for a minute, you know what I mean.
Because I'm a very driven person too, and I'm like,
I'm making myself just chill for a little while. But
I will tell you, I already know that there are

(01:19:23):
many more books coming. And I had a premonition when
I was teaching one of the Academy classes, and I
took us through a guided journey of connecting us with
our future self. Some of you were in that class,
and I was very surprised because I saw myself at

(01:19:43):
ninety years old. I was ninety years old, and I
was like, well, that's a lot older than I thought
I was going to live, you know. And so I
truly believe there are many more years, and I know
that there are I already know. I already have a
list on my computer of all the other these other books.
So I haven't I don't know yet. Kind of waffled

(01:20:06):
between a couple of different topics for the next book,
even when I thought I was going to start writing
in January. But now that I'm going to take a
longer break, that will give me more time to not
decide here, but to come into knowing of what's supposed
to come next. So there is a book coming that

(01:20:28):
is specifically to teach healers and spiritual workers how to
be in that leadership role in a way that is ethical.
How to keep their energy clean and clear, how to
clear a space, how to lead a group of people

(01:20:51):
while and maintaining spiritual safety so they're not all passing
coudies to each other. You know, all all these you know,
all the things that I talk about in my third
book of you know all the problems in the spiritual communities.
Uh that there's a book coming where I'm teaching people

(01:21:13):
this is how you can can be in that spiritual
leadership role in a way that's ethical and in a
way that's truly serving your people, your your clients, and
your students. Yeah, and it is basically going to be
a handbook for healers. There's another book coming that is Darkness.

(01:21:36):
Darkness Disguise says Light part two. And there are so
many more things that I've gone through that I haven't
had the opportunity to even tell people about. And Darkness
Disguise as Light part one, the one that's out there
in the world. I had a major encounter with a

(01:21:57):
gin while I then moved to Arizona. I had I've
had other encounters with jin, I've had other demonic encounters.
I've had all these different situations, and so it'll be
the same format where each chapter is the next is

(01:22:18):
telling the next part of my story, and then at
the end of each chapter is a lesson of that
that ties it. And that's the same format as Darkness
Disguises Light. I also plan to write a book that
is specifically teaching about false light, and that's very needed,

(01:22:40):
very neat, And then there's a whole list of other books.
There's a whole list of other books that are needed.
So and I know this is like semi related to
the question, and I feel like I want to say
I've said this to the students of my academy a
few times. I don't know, well, I may have said

(01:23:01):
it in these public videos. But for a while now
I have felt like the things that I'm teaching and
talking about are about ten years before their time, Like
I'm early. I showed up early with this message. I

(01:23:22):
started to feel that way a couple of years ago,
so now it's like eight years before my time. And
what I mean by that is that like the popular
spirituality world out there, they don't want to hear about
this stuff at all at all. And this is why
I think I did talk about this in one of

(01:23:43):
our zoom classes here, because I think there was one
class where I told you guys how much I appreciate
each one of you for being a spiritual seeker, for
showing up, for showing up here, or just showing up
in your own life as a spiritual secret someone looking

(01:24:05):
past whatever's popular and trying to find out what's really
going on. And I don't ever expect people to just
believe whatever I say just because Maya said it. But
what I really want is for you to just be
learning whatever you can and then running it through your
own inner filter and really really seeking the truth. And

(01:24:29):
you all are the forerunners. You're all pioneers, like you're
really at the beginning of this movement. And there was
someone in our academy who asked a question which we're
not going to get to today, but I'll answer it
for her later. She was wanting to know what's coming

(01:24:54):
with my work in the future. And I was like, Oh, wow,
that's really exciting because now that I'm going to still
be here perhaps till I'm ninety, so I've got like
decades ahead of me. I was like, wow, okay, well, psychically,
what I see on the timeline is that there are
still more years, about eight years ahead on the timeline

(01:25:18):
where there's a lag where a lot of people don't
want to hear about this stuff. And I don't take
that personally, by the way, that just is what it is.
It's just it's kind of shitty, Like I wish more
people were waking up, but it's just taking people a
little while. It's taking people a little while. So there's
a bit of a lag. And so there's about eight

(01:25:40):
years of me just keeping on keeping on, just doing
more of this. I'll be writing a couple more books
during that time. I'll be still showing up. As you
can tell, I'm very consistent. Like I say I show up,
I say I'm going to show up every mother we
show up. And so I'm just going to keep on
keeping on. I'm going to keep on doing the same thing,

(01:26:01):
and I'm sharing messages with all of you. And then
I think there's going to be a shift in the
global consciousness in about eight years where you're going to
see more people waking up to what you all have
woken up to early early. You've woken up early, which
is great, but it's going to take about eight more

(01:26:23):
years for like more of the collective to wake up
to where you know, I can change my offerings or
change things up in order to serve the community in
a different way. But that's not really going to be
called for yet until then. So for now, lean into

(01:26:43):
the community that you have. And I know it's just
a small, small, but mighty group of us. But like
I said in my academy recently, like we're small, but
we're making waves, little ripples out into the time space continuum.

(01:27:05):
We are. We're making We're making ripples. We're making waves.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Yeah, well, so do you want to do you want
to not do the questions from the group or do you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
I think we might not have time okay because it's
the top of the hour, but I wanna uh, but
I will answer, So those questions from the academy will
have a dedicated time okay next month where I will
answer all of those. We do uh. Every once in

(01:27:42):
a while, we do and ask maya anything uh in
the academy and you can ask me everything from like
I don't care, like what kind of toothbased I use
to like do I have any alien experiences? And do
I believe that we're in a matrix reality like you
can letter, you ask me anything like personal, spiritual, whatever,

(01:28:06):
good questions always yeah, yeah, yeah, so and of course
I figured it would take you know, with these questions.
It's like if we really relax into it like we
did today, just taking our time answering, we were not
able to get through all of them. But I want
to read the chat here real quick before we do

(01:28:26):
them off, because I've got a another group that I'm
helping that I help with. At the top of the hour,
Ann says, where do we go to find the older
interviews with Maya? The ones Maya mentioned at the beginning
of this called older interviews. I'm not sure what if
I was referring to something, but I do I can

(01:28:48):
tell you I don't know older interviews. I mentioned that
I have gotten on with Stephanie before, but that wasn't
an interview. It was she and I were talking about
frank consense and house clearings, but it wasn't this kind
of thing that christ I remember that. Yeah. Yeah, but

(01:29:11):
f yi, everybody in the on the YouTube channel, if
you go to YouTube and type in a type in
Psychic Protection Sanctuary, you'll find my channel. Yeah, there's a
playlist that is I forget what it's called. It's like, uh,

(01:29:32):
oh shoot, it's like guest appearances with Maya or guest
appearances by Maya or something like that, and it's where
I've been a guest on other people's podcasts. It was different.
It was different than this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
They weren't asking me personal questions but more just about
psychic protection and stuff. But that might be interesting for
some of you. Oh, Ronica, Yeah, they keep Roica. Roonica
commented and explained what I just explained. Jamiel says. We
are so blessed to be here in this community, absolutely,
and the blessing is mutual. Rose says, thanks so much

(01:30:13):
to both of you. A Non says looking forward to
the academy session. Thank you, Maya and Christy. Great discussion. Yes,
so any of you. We do have people here live
who are in spiritual Empowerment Academy. We will have and
ask Maya anything in February. I'm starting to lose my throat,

(01:30:35):
lose my voice here and so you can look forward
to that. That'll be fun. Those are always fun. But
this is the first time that we've done this, this
kind of interview process. So what did you guys think, yeah, yeah, interesting,

(01:30:56):
kind of different. We have some I forgot what topics
that we have coming up in coming or coming months,
but we have already chosen some of our regular topics.
So we're gonna not do an interview next month. We're
going to do one of our exciting psychic protection topics
for next month's Zoom class, So stay tuned. I'll post

(01:31:18):
about that later because I can't I can't remember what
it is off the top of my head, but oh,
I know. Our next topic is, like back to basics,
it's what to do if you're under psychic attack and
in parentheses black magic, curse, hex entity and other like

(01:31:45):
any kind of psychic attack. What to do if you're
under psychic attack. That was one of my questions back
to basics. Yeah, yeah, and then the month after that,
so that that's February, and then in March, we're going
to have a class where I talk about psychic attack
via astral travel. And so astral travel is when someone

(01:32:09):
who's living, who's alive, exits their body and their astral body.
They have the ability to do that consciously and willingly.
They exit their body and they go visit someone and
psychically attack them and this is something that's commonly done

(01:32:32):
by dark shamans and other unethical practice spiritual practitioners who
are misusing their powers, and they'll go and visit their
client at night and do all sorts of things. And
so we're going to talk about that in March. So
we have some interesting topics coming up. Thank you so

(01:32:52):
much everybody. Jamie All wants to know if I've ever
talked about walk ins I I'm going to talk about
I'm going to do a mini one of my mini
lessons on watkins because I do have something to say
about watkins. I'm not going to explain. If you don't
know what they are, you'll have to stay tuned for
the little mini lesson. So thank you so much Christy

(01:33:17):
for I really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
No, it was my pleasure. Was that was great.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Thank you and thank you everybody for being here. I
really appreciate each one of you, and and thank you
for being on like the pioneer uh journeys, I don't
know what to call it, the the Pioneer journey exploration.
Thank you all for being a part of it. And

(01:33:52):
you're all brave souls for stepping outside of what is
comfortable and popular, So thank you for being who you are.
Trail Blazers is a good word. Thank you, Thank you
all for being trailblazers. We're all trailblazers, all of you are.
Thank you, everybody and blessings for an amazing twenty twenty

(01:34:13):
five as we all continue to be here on this
planet creating amazing things. Thank you lots of blessings. Bye,