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(04:27):
Maya welcome back. How you doing.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Thank you so much for having me back, Chris, so
great to be here.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yes, great to have you back. I really enjoyed our
discussion last time, and the last time you were on,
we went into the unseen world of dark attachments and
spiritual parasites, and today we're going to dive a little
deeper and even get into the different types of entities
that can affect us why and again how to clear them.

(04:56):
But it's been a while since you've been on. Remind
the audience just a little bit about yourself and your
work before we get into this.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Sure, So, hi everybody out there in podcast land. I'm
Maya as a hero and I have been a spiritual
teacher for over thirty years, but the last ten years
have been primarily focused on the area of psychic protection.

(05:25):
And if you had told me years ago that I
would be in this specific field, I would have told
you you were crazy. That's never going to happen because
I was totally into the love and Light movement, all
things positive. I didn't want to look at any of
the negative stuff. But the universe or the powers that
be or God or whatever you want to call it,

(05:45):
had other plans for me, because in twenty sixteen I
ended up going through a major psychic attack that was
totally unexpected. There was a specific type of entity, which
i'll talk about today, that was attached to a healer,

(06:09):
a colleague that I went to for a session. She
thought that she was working with a Council of Angels,
and so did all of her followers, but instead it
was a dark entity that she was working with, probably
unbeknownst to her, and so I came under attack. It
was a very confusing six weeks because it was a

(06:32):
trickster entity, and so it was really good at shape
shifting and pretending to be all sorts of things, not
just the Council of Angels the way that it was
fooling her, but it was shape shifting from entity to
all different forms, from fairies to it was pretending to
be demons, it was pretending to be angels. It was

(06:54):
like you name it. So it was very confusing Anyway,
fast forward, long story short, I finally was able to
figure out what was going on. One of the frustrating
aspects of the whole attack was that when I reached
out to my fluffy bunny I say this with love

(07:15):
in my heart. When I reached out to my fluffy
bunny community of colleagues, they were all like, negative entities
don't exist. That didn't happen to you, like a such.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
A good When anybody says that, I'm like, oh, really.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Okay, yeah, yeah, well what I I don't usually say this,
but I think it and just chuckle and I think, well,
you might not believe in them, but they believe in you.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Right.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
So anyway, I made it through the attack. I'm laughing
about it now, but it was definitely no laughing matter.
I really, without going into all of the nitty gritty
of what happened, at a certain point, I did think
that maybe that entity might kill me. It was a
very serious attack, and I finally was able to figure

(08:10):
out what was going on. I finally was able to
identify what type of entity it was and then to
clear it, but again, not with any help from most
of my colleagues. I did have a few really beneficial
people step up who gave me nuggets of information that
I really needed at the time. And so with those

(08:32):
golden nuggets and then along with me using my intuition
and my skills, I was able to clear it. When
I was going through all of that, though, I remember
in the middle of the night being afraid to go
to sleep when I was in the thick of things,
and thinking, you know, I've reached out for help, nobody
seems to have the answers. There just doesn't seem to

(08:53):
be the right kind of support out there. And I
don't believe that I'm the only person going through that.
If I'm going through this, there's got to be lots
of other people going through similar situations. And I bet
they're looking for help too, and they're maybe not finding
help either. And I thought about how the attack itself

(09:15):
was very traumatizing, but then not being able to find
help was equally traumatizing, and the gas lighting and all
of the all of that, the victim blaming and all
of that. And I said to myself, you know, if
I get through this, when I get through this, I
want to start a support group at least. Well, then

(09:36):
my work has turned into much more than a support
group over the last many years. But I did start
a support group and I still have it. It's a
Facebook group called Psychic Protection Sanctuary, and it's just so
important for people who've gone through any type of psychic
attack or entity attack to be able to share their stories.

(09:58):
And just so wrapped this all up. I'll say I
was looking online this morning. I had, like a little
I've had some personal time. I was looking for some resources,
not spiritual resources, but other types of things. And I
was looking into two different groups that I was thinking
about joining or signing up for, and both of them

(10:18):
I've found out. The whole idea behind them is that
you're not allowed to speak about anything negative. You can
only speak about positive things, and this is a no
negativity zone. And I thought, thank goodness I have my
free group and my paid group because all these people
who've been through entity attacks and like horrific things. Can

(10:39):
you imagine joining a group and being told, well, you're
here for support, but you can't talk about anything negative
or scary. So I will say this, We are talking
about negative things today, we're talking about dark things. But
I believe and I think you do too. Chris, this
is why you have your chain all your podcast, is

(11:02):
that it's so important for us to put the fear
over to the side and be brave enough to look
at the realities that are really out there. Because I
tell you what, all the people, all the love and lighters,
and I used to be one of them, all the
love and lighters who think that negative stuff doesn't exist.

(11:25):
I've had, you know, hundreds, I don't know, I've lost count.
So many spiritual seekers come to me who used to
be love and light, fluffy bunny until they started to
come under attack. So the point being, even if you
don't believe in it, and you believe that only positive exists,
the negative can still hurt you. And I've heard a

(11:46):
lot of people say this idea with me, which is, well,
I hope that if if I just focus on positive energy,
nothing dark will touch me. And I don't want to
alarm anyone or initiate fear, but we need to just
be brave enough to look at the reality and say, actually,

(12:08):
even if you don't look at the dark and you
polarize onto all the love and light, dark spiritual situations
can still attack you, and in fact, sometimes they the
dark entities love to attack those who are really all
about love and light. So the way that we find empowerment,

(12:29):
the way that we grab onto this and find power
in a positive way, not putting our head in the
sands sort of way, but in a really truly embodied,
empowered way, is to learn about what is out there.
So we're going to dive into five of the most
common types of negative entities today.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Excellent, that's a perfect introduction. Now, I wanted to get
your insights into something before we break down these far
types of entities. I had to quite a few discussions
actually recently with different colleagues about a possible physical nature
of these attachments. And we look at parasites, microscopic parasites,

(13:12):
and when you zoom in close enough, these things look
like demons. These things look like little aliens. And we
speculated if there is a physical aspect of these in
the microscopic world, but in the macro sense, in the
spiritual realms and the unseen realms, these could be the
same things that we're dealing with, except on a more

(13:33):
energetic basis. What do you think about that?

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Well, my spiritual nerd brain is so excited that you
brought up this topic I mean, it's one of those
topics that's super interesting and it's also weird and a
little bit preaky too, you know, but yeah, I definitely
have ideas on this. So let's break this up into
two categories. We're talking about microscopic beings like viruses, bacteria,

(14:03):
pathogen even candida in the body, all of those things
that can overgrow in our body of our if our
microbiome goes out of balance, those can turn into something negative.
I mean, we all have some of that in our body.
It's not necessarily negative, but when we have an overgrowth,

(14:26):
then that consciousness starts to take over. And I use
that word on purpose, the consciousness. Those are little tiny beings.
They are beings, even though they're microscopic, they're beings. They
have consciousness and they want to take over the terrain.

(14:46):
And I do definitely believe that an overgrowth of microscopic whatever,
whether whatever kind of pathogen in a person's body, I
see it as a form of I'll call it psychic
attack or negative spiritual interference. And then I was going

(15:06):
to break it off into the other category, which is
we have so we have the physical pathogens, the physical
microscopic beings, but then we also have a type of
entity which wasn't on my five list of five today,
but let's talk about it. There are also spiritual entities

(15:27):
that are microscopic in size, and I'll kind of broaden
it though, because we have entities that are like little insects, worms, spiders,
etheric spiders, and then we have all the way down
to the microscopic and they're not physical, but they're energetic,

(15:54):
and a lot of times I will see somebody who
has let's say, let's say that clairvoyantly, I see worms
in one of their chakras. I see a worm coming
out of one of their chakras, and then it turns
out that they so that's spiritual, right, that's that's an

(16:14):
etheric worm. But that also they have found out through
medical testing that they have actual parasites, they have actual worms.
We all again, we all have some. Every human being
has some, but they have an overgrowth in their digestive system.
So a lot of times I'll find that somebody has both,

(16:37):
so they have the spiritual version and the physical version.
And back to the physical version. You know, many years ago,
I had a Candida overgrowth, so I learned a lot
about candida yeast infection and the digestive system that can
also go into other parts of the body, and candida
are known for being able to cross the blood brain barrier,

(17:01):
and so they literally kind affect your thoughts. They will
cause you to want to eat sweets because sugar actually
feeds the yeast. I mean, I think that's kind of
freaky that you have these little microscopic beings in you
that are trying to control your mind.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Well, it reminds me of those types of mushroom spores
that get into different insects and then attach to their
brain and mind control them to just be planted in
a certain space, die and let the mushroom grow out
of them. That's terrifying.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, exactly. I mean it's really the same thing, but
different different types of parasitic beings will affect humans or
certain kinds of animals, and thankfully that type of mushroom
doesn't affect human beings like that. That's pretty freaky, but yeah,

(18:00):
so that's what I have to say about that. The
spiritual version of the microscopic entities can be cleared through
energy clearing shamanic work, so you can actually clear those
critters from your energy field. You can do it yourself,

(18:21):
or you can have someone work on you in an
energy worker in person or someone who knows how to
do it long distance. And then as for the physical
types of microscopic beings, I think we would need to
take a two pronged approach to addressing those that are
showing up in the physical. We would need to do

(18:44):
the health protocols, like whether it's herbs that kill off
the pathogens or the parasites, and also changing how we
eat so we're not feeding the parasites. But I have
also observed that when it comes to both physical and

(19:04):
spiritual parasites, a lot of times the person has a
longstanding personality or behavioral imbalance of boundary issues where and
it's unconscious. It's not the person's fault. It's not like
they're inviting these microscopic entities to come in on purpose.

(19:29):
But most of the clients that I've worked with who've
had a lot of these kinds of issues, they also
when they tell me about their personal life, they have
a lot of boundary issues as well. And so I
think that if someone has physical parasites or these physical
parasitic beings within them and overgrowth, they need to do

(19:49):
the health protocols whatever their practitioner recommends. But then they
also need to look at taking sovereignty over their physical
an energetic space. This is my home, this is my space.
I'm in charge here. I actually had conversations. I mentioned

(20:10):
that I had a candida over growth years ago. I
actually had conversations with the Candida and said, hey, guys,
this is my place, y'all need to go. So it's
important to set boundaries, that there's boundary and balances going on.
Also when those entities get out of balance.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Great, that was a great explanation about the microscopic aspects
of this. Now let's talk about the different types that
you came here to discuss.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Okay, so today we're going to talk about the five
most common types of entities that I observe in my
personal life and in my professional life working with clients.
I have been a clarful my whole life and all
the other claars as well, And so what I'm going

(21:07):
to share with you is firs hand, my own first
hand experiences and observations. So I want to clarify that
what I'm sharing with you isn't information based on a
religious dogma or religious scriptures or anything like that. You know,
with all due respect to all of that out there,

(21:29):
what I'm sharing with you today is based on what
I've seen, experienced, et cetera, firs hand and so I'm
going to give you an umbrella overview of the list
first and then I'll break it down. I'll break down
each one. So the first most common entity, the swall

(21:49):
surprise people negative entity is demons, so no big surprise.
The second on my list is Jin, and of some
of your viewers will have heard of Jin, some of
you won't know what that is, and I'll explain it.
And the third is ghosts, so discarnate humans.

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Speaker 5 (22:42):
And the fourth is thought form entities. Again, if you
don't know what that is, I will explain it. And
then the fifth one is kind of a special category
that I call false light entities. So let's I've been
and of course I know Chris, feel free to interrupt

(23:06):
as because I can just talk and talk, so interrupt
if you want to direct me or ask a certain question.
So let's start with demons, all right, So just look
at my notes here, Okay, So again this is based
on what I've seen and not based on Christian scripture
or anything or dogma or anything like that. I actually

(23:29):
the first demons that I saw that I can recall
were when I was a teenager, so I've seen them
for a long time, and over the years, I've discerned
that there's a hierarchy in the demonic realm. So there,
I'm going to start with the middle of the hierarchy,

(23:49):
and then I'll go down and then back up the
middle of the hierarchy. Those are the ones that I
think we see a lot in like Hollywood movies. What
I see clairvoyantly does look pretty similar. It's a humanoid
sized person looking creature, so they look like a human.

(24:14):
They have a human face, their skin might be a
different color, either red or gray, or like a light greenish,
so their skin is not regular or human colors that
we have in the human race. When I have seen
the mid level of demons, they usually have horns, and

(24:37):
I don't know why that is. I don't know like
the origin origin, origins of why they have horns. But
in the cases when I've seen this level of demon,
I will either see them where they're standing by themselves,
or I will see the demons superimposed over a living person.

(24:58):
So for example, they're this person that I know. The
person walks into the room, I have suddenly switched into
my clairvoyant vision. I see this person that I know,
and I also see a demon face superimposed over the
person the human beings face, and I'll see in one case,

(25:20):
I saw these little stubby horns, another case the big
rams horns. So they've all all been different, right, all different,
not all the same. The mid range demons are the
ones that I see that I'm gonna use the word possess,
that possess people the most, but in a way that's

(25:43):
less Hollywood and more subtle. Because the high ranking demons,
which I'll talk about in a minute, that those are
the ones that cause levitation. Okay, but most of the
people who have a demon attachment have a mid mid
range demon. That that demon, the middle range demon is

(26:06):
of average intelligence and loves to create suffering and will
either be hanging out in the person's energy field or
will actually step into the person. So the person, the
person's consciousness is still sort of there. But then the
demon will have moments when they're running the show. The

(26:27):
person observing might see that their friends' eyes change, maybe
their eyes just look weird, or their eyes turn black,
or their eyes turn red, and their voice might change.
So I grew up with I was adopted when I

(26:48):
was a baby, so I was raised by parents that
were not biologically related, but they were my parents. My
mother who raised me, This would describe her. Her voice
would change, her eyes would turn black. No one else
in the family talks about this, but this is what

(27:10):
I saw many many times with her. So let's drop
down to the lower ranking demons. The lower ranking demons
how I have seen them is they are like creatures.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Now, I want to ask before we get too deep
into that. Primarily will these mid range demons feed off
of negative emotions that they create, such as arguments, are fights,
degenerate sexual energy? How far will these mid range demons

(27:42):
take a person?

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yes, so actually yes to all of that, and all
of the hierarchy of demons will actually participate in all
of the above of what you just mentioned. And so
the main thing that all of the demons would like
to do is to create human suffering. So they will

(28:09):
activate negativity, they'll create arguments, they'll put a lot of
darkness into a person's mind, create depression, they will initiate
or worsen addictions, because again they just want suffering and

(28:29):
they feed off of that energy. So that's whether it's
the mid range or the upper part of the hierarchy
or the creature level ones, they in their own way.
The difference in the hierarchy is a little bit and
how they appear, and also level of intelligence and how
dangerous they are. But across the board, they all want

(28:52):
to create suffering and chaos and lack of peace.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Now you were getting to the lower levels.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Sure, yeah, the lower hierarchy. These are creatures. To me,
they look like a cross between gargoyles and flying monkeys.
They're about that size. They can vary in their appearance.
And again, since they're creatures, they tend to be very

(29:22):
low intelligence, working more on primal instincts as opposed to
the mid range and the higher level that are more intelligent.
But they still will do all of the things that
you described. They will try to initiate sexual energy so

(29:42):
they can feed off of that. All the whole range
of demons will will do that. They'll try to initiate suffering.
They they'll siphon a person's life force energy, all of that,
and sometimes I'll see a combination of the different levels

(30:03):
in a person's energy field.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
So the main thing is the lower levels are less intelligent.
Is that what it is?

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yes? Yes, yeah, so they're they're still trouble makers, but
they uh, and they they do all of the negative aspects.
They feed off of energy, they create suffering, but they're
they're at creature level intelligence, right, and then we have
the higher let's jump up to the higher level of

(30:32):
the hierarchy. These beings are I feel they're very ancient.
The upper levels of the hierarchy are ancient ancient. Uh,
they are extremely powerful to a degree that I don't

(30:56):
want to be around them at all. Yeah, I'm extremely
careful if I encounter I actually encountered one when I
went to a Catholic conference and they were doing some
ceremony and this thing showed up and was pretending to
be Mary and then Jesus. And so the higher the

(31:22):
upper level of the hierarchy can they are more adept
at shape shifting then the lower end of the hierarchy.
So the higher up you go, the more more they
can shape shift into other forms. And the higher level
they're extremely intelligent in a psychopathic sort of way, right,

(31:48):
so they're they're like Machiavelian, like they want to destroy
a person's life, or there will be this level of
trickery like this is the level of demon that that will,
uh you know, really cause someone to sell their soul
to the devil?

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Or would you say, is also the level that a
lot of the very powerful groups that may try to
control things on this planet or dealing with mm.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Hmm, Yeah, I mean I think it's a whole mass
of demons. I think that that mid level to upper
level demons are involved with the Dark Cabal. I think
I think they all love to have their finger in
the pie and it's not just the upper levels. Okay,
so the upper levels of the hierarchy, they are less

(32:45):
common on the Earth plane, so we don't see as
many of them as we do the demonic creatures and
the mid level demons. But when they do show up,
anybody who is sensitive at all will feel the I mean,
it is a palpable sense of evil. I get chills

(33:05):
right now just thinking about it. So, and then we've
got these three categories. But then let's kind of take
those categories and put them off to the side and
acknowledge that there are some demons that tend to specialize
in certain things. So a lot of them are just
more general they just want to create suffering. But there

(33:28):
are some that are specifically sexual demons that their mo
is to activate sexual energy in order to feed off
of it, and they usually want to want to create distortion,
like create sexual energy in a just distorted sort of
way that's not natural to the person's natural tendencies. Because

(33:52):
I want to be clear, sexual energy is natural. It's
a positive thing. I can be very healing, but that's
not how these demons are working with that energy. They're
they're feeding off of it, They're they're trying to create
darkness within humans, confusion about self identity, all sorts of things,

(34:15):
but it's mostly about feeding off of life force energy.
Anything you want to know, anything that I haven't answered
yet about demons.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Well, I have a few questions, but they're going to
be general questions after we cover all of the entities,
So not as of yet, but we can move on
to the next type if you'd like.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Sure, Just a couple of things I didn't mention before
that A lot of people when they encounter a demon,
even if they are not clairvoyant, even if they can't
see entities, they might smell a smell of sulfur or death,
like rotten something, rotting death. That's a very common thing

(35:01):
that happens when people go on paranormal investigations and there's
demonic activity in the building. A lot of times the
people will report smelling that sulfur kind of smell or
the smell it smells like a crypt like there's death
in the air. That's that's a very common demonic phenomenon.

(35:28):
So let's go on to the next one. Yeah, So
before we go on to the next one, just reiterating
for everybody that you know, there is a chance for
any person on the planet that that they'll end up
having some type of paranormal situation in their life. And

(35:50):
I'm a big believer that if you know what you're
dealing with, even if you're not psychic, even if you're
not clairvoyant, if you have the information and then you
have an experience of some kind something happens in your
home or when you're visiting a place, something happens, you
have the information that you say, Okay, I think we

(36:12):
encountered a demon, and then we have some ideas of
what We'll circle back around at the end and give
a few basic ideas on how to clearing entities. Sometimes
can be complicated. It depends on the type of entity.
But I think it's really important to know even before
you've had those kinds of experiences, to have that knowledge

(36:34):
in your pocket, so that if you run into something
that you'll know, Like if you walk into a building
at night and you're like, oh, this is all the
symptoms that that lady talked about of a demon, well
we should leave because the longer you stay, the more
chance that demon is going to want to attach to you.

(36:55):
And just say, and a demonic attachment is not fun.
It's not a cool thing. No, no, okay, So let's
go on to number two. The second most common entity
that I run into is a gin. And this can
be spelled j i n or j i n n

(37:16):
or d j i n n. And the reason for
the various spellings is because the word comes from Arabic,
which has a different alphabet than the alphabet that we
Westerners use. So it is spoken gin, but you could
spell it in all sorts of ways. So the idea

(37:40):
of gin actually comes from from the Middle East, and
the Holy Book the Quran speaks about gin quite a bit.
But the important thing that we need to know is
that just because the idea and the folklore and the
mythology and the Holy books talk about it's this is

(38:02):
not just a Middle Eastern situation. Okay. This is not
just something that happens in the Middle East or in
a certain part of the world. In my work, I've
personally encountered gin. The story that I told at the
beginning of the shapeshifter entity that was pretending to be

(38:23):
a council of angels that was a gin. That was
my first head on collision with a gin. And then
after that I've had several personal encounters, and I've worked
with several clients since I work online, I've had clients
all over the world, and there are clients all over
the world. I've got clients right now in Sweden and

(38:45):
in the UK and in America and all sorts of
places that are having GIN issues. So we need to
remember they can be anywhere. Now we might question maybe
they originated like in the Middle East, I don't know,
but currently they're everywhere. They're all over the place. And

(39:08):
this is an example of even if you don't believe
in something, or even if you don't know about something,
it can still happen to you. Because when I went
through my encounter in twenty sixteen and I told somebody
about what was happening, they said, that sounds like a GIN,
and I said, no, it's not, because I've never heard

(39:30):
of a gin before. I don't even know what that is.
Therefore it isn't happening. Well, it was happening, right, So
let's talk about what they are. I've seen gin in
a few different forms, so their natural state when they're
not shape shifting, because their their main thing that they

(39:52):
do is shape shift, that these are the shape shifters. Okay,
the main their original form when they're not shape shift
is what the Qur'an calls flameless fire. So there are
plasma beings. They are plasma beings. I actually caught the
one that I was dealing with on camera. It appeared

(40:16):
over my shoulder at the other place where I was living,
thank goodness not here, and it looked like energy. And
I also saw it above me when I was in bed.
It attacked me very violently and it was hovering above me,
and it was in that plasma form. And then as

(40:38):
I've worked with clients, I've seen that I've seen Gin
in plasma form in those instances as well, but more
frequently they will show up in their shape shifted form.
So Gin are master shape shifters. They are the most
masterful shape shifters that out of any other entities that

(40:59):
I've ever encountered. A lot of people think of demons
as being great shape shifters, not at all compared to Gin.
Gin can pretend to be anything they In fact, it's
extremely common for them to pretend to be any of
these things, fairies, elementals, angels, Jesus Mary, any of the

(41:24):
ascended masters that people work with. I actually saw a
gin shape shift into a whole pantheon of Greek gods
and goddesses. That same gin. When the Greek gods and
goddesses didn't fool me, it then shape shifted. Actually, I've

(41:46):
got the order reverse. First, it shape shifted into a
council of aliens, and it told me. This was a
few years after my original encounter. This was my second
major run in with a gin that I encountered at
a New Age bookstore, at a New Age gift shop,
and that thing followed me home and it pretended to

(42:09):
be the counsel of Orien. It said, we are the
Council of Orien. We understand that you are a truth
seeker and you could channel these important messages for the
world and you would be an important person. And as
this was happening, I thought, oh, no wonder, because it

(42:30):
was very convincing. I was like, this is very convincing.
If I didn't already know about Jin, if I didn't
know how they feel, how they set like count, how
they come through, I might have been fooled. And I thought, no, wonder.
So many channelers are being fooled by Jin. Right, this

(42:52):
is important.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
I think this is happening on a very large scale
right now. And I've experienced this through many people that
are quote unquote channelers, and from what I understand, these
entities deal a lot with flattery in the ego and
pumping up your ego to make you feel special, like

(43:13):
you're a receiver of this special message and only you
can bring this to humanity, and it really pumps the
people up, and it's hard for them to understand that
they're dealing with a trickster entity, that they're not working
for their best interest, they're working for this entity.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Yeah, I am just so I mean, it's bad, it's
bad that that's happening. But I am just so happy
to hear you talk about this because I've been talking
about this for a few years now, and I feel
like I'm shouting out into an empty cavern, like I'm saying, hey, ah,
you guys, that's the entity that you're channeling, isn't it?

(43:54):
Why you think that it is, and you hit the
nail right on the head. I actually experienced firsthand the
flattery and the ego stroking, and I thought, wow, it's
you know, I don't I have a healthy sense of ego,
but I don't. I don't. I can't be controlled by

(44:16):
ego and flattery like that. That just doesn't work with me.
So when it was trying to flatter me and say, oh,
you'll be a really important person blah blah, I was like,
that doesn't work for me. I don't care about that,
you know. And then and then it shape shifted tried
to pretend to be gods and goddesses and I was like, no,

(44:39):
that's ridiculous. I know what this is. And then it's
shifted again into demons and I went, oh, how fascinating
now that because when it shape shifted into the gods
and goddesses, it said we are here to protect you
from that entity that was blessing with you. I'm like, no,
you actually are that to see. And then it shape

(45:01):
shifted into demons and I said, how fascinating. Since those
other forms didn't work for me, now you're going to
try to scare me and I Actually, here's where it
gets really tricky is when a gin shape shifts into demons.
And this is what happened with my original gin. Attach.
I thought I had demons attacking me because the gin

(45:24):
was shape shifting and all sorts of things including demons,
and so a person will think that they're dealing with demons,
but it's actually a Gin pretending to be demons. Because
the whole idea with gin is they also are very psychopathic.
They're major psychopaths, and they want to confuse a person.

(45:47):
They want to create chaos. And what they'll do is
they will manipulate things in however they're shape shifting, and
how they're interacting with you. They'll manipulates to get you
to welcome it in. So this is why it will
show up as someone's benevolent spirit guide or whatever, so

(46:12):
that the person says, oh, welcome in, and then and
then and then the GIN hooks in and then Gin
just they it's not much. It's not as much with
the demons in delighting in suffering. The Gin delight in
creating confusion, and that Gin love to be worshiped. This

(46:38):
is why they will often pretend to be angels or
fake Jesus, not the real Jesus or whatever other ascended master,
because they suck up all that worship energy. They have
huge egos and they love it, so they they will

(46:59):
love to go to to show up at an event
where there's a lot of worship, whether it's a religious event.
I actually went to a Christian church where there was
a huge, huge Gin floating above the congregation and it
was just sucking up all of that worship energy that
I found that very disturbing because I was raised Christian

(47:21):
and Catholic, and I was like, why does God allow that?
I don't know, But and then I have seen Jin
do that same sort of nonsense at a lot of
New Age events. And I'm not anti church, I'm not
anti new Age, but we need to understand that there's
certain kinds of entities like Jin who love to infiltrate

(47:44):
what are supposed to be safe spaces because people aren't
anticipating anything like that.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
And like I said, I see that this could be
an epidemic right now, especially with the misleading and confusing
information that is coming out of the spiritual quote unquote
truth community right now, and I think it's something we
really need to be aware of.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Like you said, Yeah, and Gin are working through a
lot of channelers that are very well Most of them
are very well meaning. They have a big heart, a
pure heart. They want to be helping humanity, but they

(48:29):
don't want to see the truth about what's going on.
Maybe there was a little bit of ego stoking or
some insecurity that was activated by the GIN so that
the GIN could could take hold. And so there's all
these messages coming forth in the Truth Or movement and
the New Age movement that are channeled messages, whether it's
from the aliens or a sented master so and so

(48:52):
or whatever, and the messages are it's very much like
how a human psychopath would operate, where there's eighty percent
truth and twenty percent lies, because people are not going
to believe a bunch of nonsense. Actually people sometimes do

(49:13):
believe a bunch of nonsense, but it's easier to trick
people by using that tactic of eighty percent truth twenty
percent lies, and the lies come through very seamlessly. It's
usually with the intention to throw people off track again,

(49:33):
whether it's in the Truth Or movement or wherever. It's
to get people chasing their tail in the wrong direction
instead of seeing whatever is true that's happening on the planet.
So it's to keep people off off target and ungrounded.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Right on great information. Anything else about GIN before we move.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
On, Yeah, I'll add one more thing, just a word
of warning to people dealing with GIN. I have helped
many people get rid of GIN issues, but I've learned
along the way, especially from some of my first personal
experiences with GIN, that you can't approach them in the

(50:22):
same way that you do demons. And this is what
I mean. In the Catholic exorcism tradition, it's all about
being super aggressive and like aggressively forcing the demon to
leave the person.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Right.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
If you take that type of aggressive or even assertive
approach with a GIN, the result can be really horrible. Okay,
the gin and I'll just be straightforward. The reason why
I learned this was the second encounter that I had

(51:04):
with a GIN, where I mentioned a few minutes ago
that I went into a New Age bookstore and this
thing followed me home. I pretended to be aliens and
demons and everything. I was very aggressive in setting boundaries,
which normally setting energetic boundaries is a good thing. I
learned the hard way that when I set aggressive boundaries

(51:26):
with this gin, within a couple of days, my cat
was dead. Okay, I won't go into all of the
why and how. Thankfully I lived through it, but it
was like that GIN was pissed that I set that boundary,
and it probably didn't want to kill me. It wanted

(51:48):
to make me. It wanted to punish me for setting
the boundary. And like a lot of people who have pets,
this was not just a pet, was a very beloved pet,
and so the idea was to punish me. And so
the sojin will. I've seen again and again that if

(52:09):
you set very direct boundaries with them, they will lash out,
whether it's causing harm to a loved one or some
other kind of harm directly to you, or what I've
seen quite commonly is that they will just create a
huge uphel of chaos and horrible situations in the person's

(52:31):
life if they set really hard boundaries with the gin.
So what we have to do is more of a
backdoor approach, and this is what I do with my
clients is we work on and this of course takes
a while, but we work on addressing and healing through
spiritual work and shamanic methods. We work on addressing and

(52:53):
healing all of the root causes, all of the core
wounds any past life can with that gin, like all
of the doorways where that gin might be able to
come in in the first place, We actually close all
those doorways, right, So it's more of a backdoor approach.
So I would just warn warn people definitely don't go

(53:16):
shouting at a gin and of telling it to f
off and leave, because that's it's going to let The
backlash is not worth it and it doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Interesting, right, So number three we go next.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
Yeah, okay, so we just talked about the two most
intense entities, so now it's going to get a little
easier as we go through the rest of the lip.
Number three on the list is ghosts or discarnate souls.
This is the I know everybody uses different terminology, but
this is the terminology that I use to refer to

(53:57):
a human soul that is no longer living, so it's
out of its physical body and for whatever reason, this soul,
this human soul did not complete its journey over to
the other side. So there's a different experience where someone

(54:19):
passes over and they go over to the afterlife, and
then sometimes they will come back to visit, and that's
a different situation that the energy is a lot a
lot more clean and clear. It's not so ghosty and creepy, right,
It's usually a very comforting visit from aunt Joanne or

(54:44):
whoever family member is showing up to comfort you. Right,
So we're talking about earth bound human souls, those that
are at least for a short time or for a
longer period of time, stuck on the earth plane or
choosing to stay on the earth plane. Either they got confused,
they had a sudden death and they don't realize that

(55:06):
they're dead, or they know that they're dead, but maybe
they're afraid of the afterlife. Maybe they feel some guilt
about something from their life, or they did a lot
of dark deeds when they were alive, and they're like, well,
I don't know what's going to happen if if I
go into the light. And some people stick around because

(55:31):
they are very attached to experiences on the earthplane, and
specifically addictive experiences. So if a person is actively addicted
when they pass away, sometimes they want to stick around
on the earthplane so that they can attach to a
living human and encourage that living human to act out

(55:54):
their addiction. It could be the same exact type of addiction,
let's say alcohol or a different kind of addiction, but
they want to experience that through the person, So they
might be hanging out in the person's energy field attached
via an energy court, or even especially when the person
gets blackout drunk, where when the living person gets blackout drunk,

(56:20):
their soul steps aside, and so the discarnate, the earth
bound spirit often will step in and be working the
person's body and drinking and enjoying that physical pleasure. And
this is you know, as I speak this, I'm just

(56:41):
speaking the facts. But we acknowledge that people who are
dealing with addiction, whether they are alive or deceased, it's
a difficult situation that many people struggle with, but it
is one of the reasons it's one of the issues
that can happen with discarnate souls. With ghosts. One of

(57:01):
the things that we need to know is that whether
a spirit, whether a ghost, is on the positive end
of the spectrum, so a friendly ghost, neutral or evil
because they were evil when they were alive, they were
a dark person, and when they pass away, they're still dark,

(57:22):
whatever part of the spectrum they are on. It's not
a good idea to have any type of ghost in
your home. And I've had people disagree with me on this,
and that's okay, we can disagree. But what I've seen
is that a ghost, a spirit that has not passed over,
let's say a positive spirit, one who's trying to be helpful.

(57:46):
They have to maintain their life force energy in some way,
shape or form. And so the way that they maintain
their energy is by hooking in and feeding off of
those that are living, whether it's pets or people or
you know, adults, children, And so even if we have

(58:08):
a friendly ghost in our home, somebody is being fed on.
Even if the ghost doesn't intend any harm, somebody is
being fed on. And also we need to think in
terms of like do we really want this friendly ghost
to be living forever in this house, Like, really it's
better for them to move on and move into the afterlife.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
So, in my opinion, obvious is to help them become
aware that they need to move on.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
Yes, Yes, to help them become aware and with a
friendly even from friendly to neutral ghost, oftentimes just talking
to the ghost and having a conversation explaining things. So
you don't have to be a psychic or specialize in
in and rescuing souls. You don't have to be a professional.

(59:06):
You can have a conversation with the ghost and say, hey,
you know this, it's Okay, can move on to the
other side, and you know, ask the person's guardian angels
to come. You can say a prayer whatever fits your
particular belief system, but asking the person to move on
to the other side can be helpful. Obviously, they still
have free will though, so if they don't want to

(59:28):
move on, that's up to them. But you still have
the say as to who's allowed in your house. So
if they don't want to leave, you're like, but usually
they will. The friendly ghost will go ahead and leave.
But if they don't want to leave, it's like, Okay, well,
we are the living humans who are living in this

(59:49):
house now, and we're not allowing any ghosts here, and
so you can make them leave because you have authority
over your physical space. And then, obviously, if you have
a negative ghost in your home a lot of times
the negative ghosts, a lot of times people will wonder

(01:00:11):
if they're dealing with a demon, even if it's not
a being that is of the demonic realm, but it's
a human soul. There are some human souls that are
just so dark and troubled that they kind of give
living people that same sort of feeling, like the chill
down the back of the spine, that feeling of doom,

(01:00:34):
a feeling of darkness. So there's a similarity there. Years ago,
about thirty years ago, I lived in a haunted farmhouse.
I didn't know it was haunted when I moved in,
but I found out very quickly, and there was there
were a variety of ghosts living there. I saw different

(01:00:58):
women and pioneer clothes, holding babies and other people. And
there was one ghost though, that was very very dark,
and it was no It never appeared in human form.
I never saw it in human form. It was just
this black, blacker than black presence, and it was just

(01:01:22):
this black energy. And my first book, Darkness Disguised as Light,
I opened the book by talking about that that attack.
This was when I was in my twenties and I
woke up and there was this black energy that was
over me and I couldn't move, and that that entity,

(01:01:46):
along with a lot of the ghosts they were living
in the attic, and that it was not a demon.
I'm just thousand percent sure because I have a sense
for how they feel, since I've had so much entity
and count so many to see encounters. This was definitely
a human, but just super super dark, psychopathic human, and

(01:02:07):
it actually had trapped all of those other ghosts. It
was not allowing them to leave. So that was an
interesting situation to observe. And so, like I said, with
good or neutral ghosts, usually saying a prayer or doing

(01:02:28):
a smoke cleanse is usually all that's needed to get
them to leave. But if you're dealing with either a
super dark ghost or a demon, here's a little tool
we haven't given any tools yet, burning frankincense resin is
I really love physhysical tools like that because you don't

(01:02:52):
have to spend years studying a cult knowledge. And it's
great if you do, then you have all the the
spiritual practices that you can do. But let's say you
don't have all that knowledge yet and you've got those
really dark human spirit in your basement or a demon.

(01:03:12):
Either way, the frankensense resin, burning Frankinson's resin is a
great way to at least clear it out temporarily until
you can find a permanent solution, real easy, real easy
solution temporarily.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
I have a couple of questions about some solutions after
we finish with the final entities here, because we've got
about thirty minutes left, so let's move on to what
do we have for number four?

Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
Number four is a really interesting one. These are thought
form entities thought form entities. They are also called tulpa tulpa,
and these are a lot different than the other types
of entities that we've talked about so far, because what

(01:04:06):
this is is this is a phenomena that's created by
focused intent. So one or several people can focus their
attention on creating an energy or an entity. They can

(01:04:27):
use their mental focus, their emotional focus and create an
entity in this way. And then at the next level
to that is that, in addition to using emotions and thought,
a person who is adept at occult practices can use

(01:04:49):
any flavor of black magic, whatever flavor they happen to
be practicing, or it doesn't have to be black magic,
it can be because we're a tulpa. Thought entity can
be used for good or bad, So they can use
whatever occult practice beneficial or dark to create an entity

(01:05:11):
that is specifically created for the purpose maybe of healing
or protection or for harming a person. Okay, but even
I've seen thought form entities in fact last week, my
living in my world is kind of interesting because I
get random information, and so I live out in the country.

(01:05:33):
I spend all this time out here, and I had
this vision where there's a church about a half an
hour from me, and I saw the saint that is
the patron saint of that church. And I saw that
the Saint that hangs out at that church is not
the actual saint. It's not the actual spirit of that saint.

(01:05:57):
It's actually a thought form entity. All the people at
the church who have been praying, praying, praying to this saint,
they've actually created a thought form entity that is Saint
so and so so thought form. So this actually brings

(01:06:20):
up a question that my spiritual nerd brain has been
thinking about for a while, which is, Okay, we know
that there is such a thing as thought form entities,
but is it possible that some of the deities that
we think are real are actually thought form entities that

(01:06:44):
have been created through prayer and prayer and prayer and
focused thought and emotions and belief, belief, belief, belief. Now
I'm not saying that I have the ultimate answer to that,
but that is a big question mark in my mind.
So over to the side here, onto the negative aspect.
Of thoughtform entities. I've worked with people who were I've

(01:07:06):
worked with clients who were dealing with people sending black
magic their way and trying to harm them. And I've
seen people who thought that they had demons attacking them,
And when I would clairvoyantly look at the situation, I

(01:07:29):
would see that, oh, these are actually not demons. The
black magicians created thoughtform entities to send at the person,
and they created thoughtform entities to look like demons. The
idea was to terrorize the person, and in a recent incident,

(01:07:50):
what was interesting to me is that the coven of
witches that were doing this, they were not at the
experienced level to be able to actually call in and
control demons, which is not a good idea for people
to do, but there are people. There are people that

(01:08:10):
do it as a part of their practice. They were
not at the experience level to know how to do that.
It's not a good idea anyway, but they were at
the experience level to be able to create thought form entities.
So they actually attacked this person with these thought form
entities created to look like demons. So the person thought

(01:08:34):
that they were being attacked by all these demons, and
I said, well, the good news is you're not dealing
with actual demons. Thought form entities are a lot easier
to clear because they are that when I see them,
it's like they're halfway see through, like they're not fully

(01:08:55):
formed energetically, especially if those who have created them like
this inexperience somewhat inexperienced coming of dark witches. They they
really didn't have the ability to create fully formed entities,
and so the thought form entities were really easy to clear.

(01:09:16):
So a big takeaway is that thought form entities can
be created just by focused thought, by imagination. So, okay,
let's let's kind of jump over to another area that
I haven't talked about. There are local tales in different

(01:09:38):
parts of the world about like so and so entity
or like uh, like this this area is known to have.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Sighting the Beast of Bray Road, these different types of cryptids.

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
Right, exactly right. So when there are a lot of
people who think about and believe in, or maybe feel
afraid of or or they're excited about all the different feelings,
Oh maybe we'll see a sighting of such and such
or whatever, or they're afraid of whatever. The whole spectrum

(01:10:15):
all these people believing in that entity, whatever it is,
or whatever the being is, then we tend to see
sightings of that being in that area. And I believe
that's because it's actually sometimes a thought form entity, not always,

(01:10:36):
but sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Yeah, I've considered that as well. That's very interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Number five, what do we have?

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
Number five? Number five is a unique category because this
is an umbrella that's going to include some of the
entities that we've already talked about. So number five is
the term that I use false light entity. A false

(01:11:04):
light entity is any negative entity, including any that we've
talked about before today, any negative entity of any kind
that is pretending to be a benevolent entity. So a
negative entity that's pretending to be good. So we also

(01:11:25):
call these imposter entities. We call them trickster beings. And
so we talked about GIN. GIN would fit under that
umbrella because they are shape shifters who are negative beings.
Every experience that I've had with GIN, by the way,
has been negative. I've had people say that there are

(01:11:48):
some that are positive. That might be true. I've never
met any that are positive. So we have GIN that
are under this umbrella a false light entity. There are
some ghosts, some negative ghosts that are adept enough at
manipulating energy that they can shape shift, but not as

(01:12:14):
they're just not as good at it as Gin Gin
are the masters at it. And then we also have
demons that sometimes shape shift. And then you know, there
really are infinite entities out there, by the way, and
then if we were to also include extraterrestrials, there are

(01:12:36):
extraterrestrials that are really good, certain ones that are really
good at shape shifting, and so you know, we can
really put any type of spiritual entity or any type
of entity that's really good at shape shifting that's coming
from a negative, polarized place that is pretending to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Be Often Hey, if what we understand is extraterrestrials may
just be one of the previous entities we've discussed that
are tricksters that are shape shifters that play on our
technological sci Fi understanding of the age and errorwind based
on all the movies we've seen. They might play off

(01:13:19):
of that emotion if we're sci fi nerds or something
like that. What do you think.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
That's an interesting theory. I actually also read Rosemary Guiley's
book The Vengeful Gin and she talked about if I
understand her point correctly. She talked about how she, in
her opinion, she believes that all just all sorts of

(01:13:51):
phenomenon that we experience, including fairies, ghosts, even alien encounters,
a bigfoot, all of that is GIN and she she
thinks that it's all of GIN I have. I feel
blessed and lucky that I have the intuitive and psychic

(01:14:11):
abilities that I do. I am an open minded questioner,
so I'm always analyzing everything and I'm I'm kind of
forensic in my approach, where I have my own personal
and professional experiences and I'm feeling into it and I'm going, Okay,
I have this client who's having ET experiences, let's say
negative ET experiences. Does this feel in any way like

(01:14:35):
a GIN? And sometimes that's a yes, But a lot
of times it's it's no. It's like no, this, this,
this The way that it's presenting, the way that it feels,
the way that it's operating is like nowhere near how
a GIN operates. Right. So, I think that the thought

(01:14:58):
that I have on what you just share is that
sometimes it can be the case that there are shape
shifters pretending to be aliens or what have you. But
I don't think that's always the case across the board.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
That makes sense. Now, there's one more thing I want
to explore when it comes to solutions and becoming aware
of these things. It's actually a two part question. First
of all, there are some of these entities. I understand
that we have to make some sort of agreement with
them in order for them to take control of certain
aspects of our consciousness, whether we are aware of that agreement,

(01:15:35):
or we do it in our sleep, or we do
it because of some sort of addiction that some of
these entities require that agreement. And then we'll get to
the second part after that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
Okay, so yes, usually there is some type of an agreement.
But what I see with the type of clients that
I tend to attract are pretty wholesome kind of people,
because we tend to attract people that are similar vibration
to us, and so these are not people who tended

(01:16:11):
to like willingly make a demonic pact, for example. But
there are people that do do that, and I have
helped people who've done things like that, but most of
the people that I've worked with are those that really
never have been on that end of the spectrum. But

(01:16:33):
whether it's demonic beings or other types of negative beings,
what's really common is to manipulate or trick a person
into making an agreement. So most of the negative agreements
that I see with clients where they have an attachment

(01:16:53):
or they're under demonic rule like their whole all the
generations of their family, or under demonic rule, because somebody
was tricked or they will, or they were an active
participant they So it can be a contract that the
person themselves made or was tricked into, or further up

(01:17:16):
in the generational line, there was a pact, a promise made.
One thing that I've seen a lot is that a
person who is actively working with the dark, knowingly working
with the dark, will promise the rest of their generations
to the demonic realm. And then you know, even though

(01:17:39):
all these other people in the generations to come didn't
make that contracts, they didn't make that promise, the original
promise still stands. So then when I have this client
who is dealing with something from five generations ago, it
is possible to undo that that original contract. Those are

(01:18:00):
some different ways that those agreements or contracts can be
made and no matter if the person made an agreement
willingly or if it was through manipulation or it was
from another generation, one hundred percent across the board, all
negative contracts can be revoked. So if anybody's watching this,

(01:18:24):
who's like, oh my gosh, I did this thing when
I was younger, I can't believe I did it. I
made a promise to some kind of negative force. There
is hope all of it can be revoked.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Excellent, Okay, Now this also goes along with that as
far as possible solutions of ridding these entities. The name
of Jesus Christ is a very powerful tool, it seems,
towards some of these, and I've heard that even in
some experiences with dark attachments that it has no effect.

(01:18:58):
What is your understanding of the power of the name,
why it has effect on someone, and why it doesn't
on others.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
That's a great question. So first I will start off
by saying, this is one of those questions that I
am still working through. It's one of those big existential
questions of like, why does this work with some entities
and not with others, et cetera. But so I don't

(01:19:27):
have the ultimate answer, but I do have a little
bit to say about this. I will point out that
demons tend to react very badly and fearfully to the
name of Jesus and also to marry Mother Mary. Both,

(01:19:49):
so they they respond very badly to both of those names. Right,
a lot of power there, But when it comes to gin. Gin,
coming from a different perspective, they actually really don't respond

(01:20:11):
at all to the name of Jesus. In fact, what
they don't like is when you play an audio book
of the Quran. Interesting, they hate that, or if you
play prayers song prayers from the Koran. There are many

(01:20:34):
free prayer, free Arabic prayers, free Muslim prayers on YouTube
that you can find. If anybody is dealing with gin issues,
you can minimize it. It's not going to totally get
rid of it, but you can weaken the energy by
playing these prayers. So it's just an interesting like, hmm,
that's fascinating that this type of entity really hates the

(01:21:01):
name of Jesus. This other type of entity hates the Koran, right,
and why is that? I don't have the ultimate answer,
but I'm sure this will start great visit.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
I've already got one more question I have to throw
out there you were mentioning the thought forms and the
tulpas and how you see them as sort of translucent,
not fully formed. And I'm wondering if demons and gin
maybe the same thing, except they've received so much power
and intention over thousands and thousands of years that they're

(01:21:36):
fully formed and have some sort of power over humanity
because of the intention and the power of our own
imagination and our creative abilities, we made them as well.
What do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:21:50):
Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, my spiritual nerd brain is
like WHOA. I'm going to be thinking about this for
the rest of the day. The first thing that I'll
say is that from my perspective, and I'm not good.
I don't I don't have like the ultimate truth about everything.

(01:22:12):
I can just speak to my own perspective as someone
who has pretty pretty developed psychic abilities and a lot
of experiences firsthand with entities, and so as I've met
these different entities in person, I mean not in the physical,
but you know what I mean, in person, I've met
them and seen and felt and observed how they operate,

(01:22:37):
how they function, how they feel, what they look like.
To me, Gin and demons are very different and I've
actually watched a lot of podcasts in the past, different
different podcasters who who've kind of lumped demons and Gin together,
and they'll kind of be like, Oh, demons and Gin
is the same thing, and I'd be like, oh not

(01:23:00):
in my experience, like they just have a very different,
like very different personality, very different mo very different appearance.
And right now, in my own seeking, I'm curious about
not just what's in the holy religious beliefs, but I'm

(01:23:26):
really curious. I'm kind of on this seeking right now
of wanting to find out, like where did these beings
originally originally originally originate from. And I think that's kind
of what you're wanting to know, like maybe they originated
as the same thing and then we So I find

(01:23:47):
your hypothesis really fascinating because kind of goes down another
rabbit hole, which is how there are a lot of
ways that we do create our own reality and this
matrix through like like maybe through our thoughts and beliefs
that we created God and you know all of that

(01:24:08):
like maybe I don't know, maybe maybe not, but yeah,
so I don't have the ultimate answer.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
That's what this show is about, is exploring all those
possibilities and we got some great information today. Thank you
so much, Maya. This was fantastic. We'll definitely have to
do it again again. I feel like we kind of
just barely scratch the surface on some of this stuff,
so we'll have you back before we close out, though.
Remind the audience if they're interested in finding out more

(01:24:36):
about you and may have some of these troubles, what's
the best way they can find out more about you?

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
Absolutely? Okay, So the best place to go is Psychic
Protection Sanctuary dot com. That's my website and on the
website you can sign up for the email list where
you can get a lot of information. On the website,
you can also click on work with Maya and you'll

(01:25:03):
find my academy. So people who are dealing with major
attacks often need ongoing assistance and mentoring, so the academy
would be what you need. And you'll also see a
listing of all my books on the website as well.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
Excellent, Maya. Thank you so much. We'll definitely be doing
this again. And until next time, everyone, have a wonderful evening.
We'll talk again tomorrow. See eld In
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